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Donald Trump has named Steve Mnuchin – a Goldman Sachs alum and hedge fund manager – to be his secretary of the Treasury, in keeping with his repeated promise to take on Wall Street and the powers-that-be on behalf of the little guy.

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Mnuchin has a direct connection to the recession: while it was unfolding, he and other investors bought IndyMac, a purveyor of the kind of shaky mortgages that fed the crisis. After foreclosing on thousands of homeowners, Mnuchin and his partners sold the company and made billions. As Ben Walsh describes it in Huffington Post: "Steven Mnuchin's takeover of IndyMac is a story about everything Americans have come to hate about how the financial crisis was allowed to unfold – ordinary people panicking, savvy investors pouncing, a government guarantee that saved a bank but didn't even try to keep people in their homes, a clever rebranding, rampant foreclosures, billions of dollars in profits."

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You may remember Trump's closing ad of the campaign, in which he said, "Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American people" over images of Wall Street, piles of money, financiers like George Soros, and other symbols of established power and wealth. "It's a global power structure," he went on, "that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth, and put that money into the pockets of a handful of large corporations and political entities."

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Trump says he is "draining the swamp" but the people he is appointing by and large are the swamp ...

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2016 at 5:34pm:

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/can-we-stop-pretending-that-donald-trumps-campaign-was-anything-but-a-con-20161130-gt1dgb.html Quote: Donald Trump has named Steve Mnuchin – a Goldman Sachs alum and hedge fund manager – to be his secretary of the Treasury, in keeping with his repeated promise to take on Wall Street and the powers-that-be on behalf of the little guy. [quote]Mnuchin has a direct connection to the recession: while it was unfolding, he and other investors bought IndyMac, a purveyor of the kind of shaky mortgages that fed the crisis. After foreclosing on thousands of homeowners, Mnuchin and his partners sold the company and made billions. As Ben Walsh describes it in Huffington Post: "Steven Mnuchin's takeover of IndyMac is a story about everything Americans have come to hate about how the financial crisis was allowed to unfold – ordinary people panicking, savvy investors pouncing, a government guarantee that saved a bank but didn't even try to keep people in their homes, a clever rebranding, rampant foreclosures, billions of dollars in profits."

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You may remember Trump's closing ad of the campaign, in which he said, "Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American people" over images of Wall Street, piles of money, financiers like George Soros, and other symbols of established power and wealth. "It's a global power structure," he went on, "that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth, and put that money into the pockets of a handful of large corporations and political entities."

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Reading the Pravda on the Yarra has rotted your brain, pal.


Wall Street donating to Hill and Bill for influence - one thing.

Getting guys who know how Walls Street works but owing them no favours because you haven't taken any donations from them and their pals - that's another thing.


But as Waleed Aly doesn't tell you that distinction you will never comprehend it unprompted.

Trump talked about being tough on the establishment and then appoints the entire establishment to his cabinet.

You know the conservatives won't like you people pointing out the truth ?

Though I doubt they even they really believed that BS, nobody is more a part of the establishment than Donald the mad rooter Trump.

This is why we need Trump and a lot more like him.

This is the sort of bullshit he would put a stop to.

"He was sentenced to life imprisonment to serve a minimum of 10 years before being considered for parole".

link

The vast majority of the public in every Western country is sick of this idiotic nonsense.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 7:31am:

This is why we need Trump and a lot more like him. This is the sort of bullshit he would put a stop to. "He was sentenced to life imprisonment to serve a minimum of 10 years before being considered for parole". link The vast majority of the public in every Western country is sick of this idiotic nonsense.

Well prepare yourself for disappointment Herb, nothing much if anything will change!

All politicians are crooks just some are bigger crooks than others.

A never ending torrent of BS from the leftards when Trump isn't even in the Oval Office yet, can't you numpties wait until January, or are you so consumed by leftard bias that you can't help your pathetic pizz weak selves? ::)

Frank wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2016 at 7:28pm:

Getting guys who know how Walls Street works but owing them no favours because you haven't taken any donations from them and their pals - that's another thing.

Um, no. Not even close.

AiA wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2016 at 7:17pm:

Trump says he is "draining the swamp" but the people he is appointing by and large are the swamp ...

;D ;D ;D

No .. they are the crocodiles that you Lefties don't want to see in the White House.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 7:19am:

Though I doubt they even they really believed that BS,

I'd bet that's the primary fundamental, right there...

It's now a universal motif for Trump supporters, from every socioeconomic rank, racial and gender divide to respond to 'Why?' with permutations of 'I wanted to send the message to the establishment that I wanted change'.

Nothing, it seems, not even their '3:00 AM terrors' that Trump may present a mortal threat to the state (and most supporters will admit at least to profound 'misgivings'), could derail their resolution that they were not voting for the man as they were voting for change... Any change.

In that, even Bernie Sanders could quite probably have won the election for the Democrats, because people, who no longer believe in something, do not believe in nothing, they believe in anything... Even something as nebulous and dangerous as change for its own sake.

The very best Americans can hope for now is that Trump reveals himself as a latter day 'New Dealer' who will emerge from his narcissistic fog, see the need for a hard swing, not to the right, but to the left (as Roosevelt did when he asked for, and received from Congress, powers as great as that would be given to him, if the US was invaded) and become, like Roosevelt, the hard 'leftist' the establishment (or his supporters) never saw coming.

Marla wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 7:51am:

Frank wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 7:28pm: Getting guys who know how Walls Street works but owing them no favours because you haven't taken any donations from them and their pals - that's another thing. Um, no. Not even close.

Well, why don't you explain how it's not even close.

Tut-tutting and hinting ominously doesn't cut it.

And here's the Ur-bedwetter of the snivelling 'not my prez' ninnies:


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I bounded into the space at 6 o’clock in a frolic of an outfit: a red belt, white skinny jeans, and a blue Hillary-as-Rosie-the-Riveter T-shirt, my hair lavishly coiffed into a confident pompadour.

At first the sprawling party was a lark. I hobnobbed and table hopped. I couldn’t wait for a catharsis 25 years in the making. My only concern was the inevitable hangover.

Then came the 9 o’clock hour. Results from battleground states trickled in and an incredulous anxiety took hold. I left the VIP party area for a spell and stood with the expectant crowd before the elaborate victory speech stage.
...
uring the final hour of November 8, I had committed myself to institutional psychiatric care. A generation or two ago they would have said I was suffering a nervous breakdown: catatonic, plagued by involuntary jerking motions (my head furiously shaking “No!”), speech patterns disjointed, weeping uncontrollably.
...
Terror drove me to this interrupted state. I was afraid for the nation, for the stigmatized and oppressed. I was also afraid for my own life. Because the values and principles I hold dear felt fatally incompatible with the hate and bigotry that Trumpism had come to stand for. I did not want to live in a world that would elect such a man as president.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/my-post-election-crisis-a-top-hillary-fundraisers_us_583d2ae0e4b0bb2962f17854

Frank wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 8:48am:

Marla wrote on Dec 4th, 2016 at 7:51am: Frank wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 7:28pm: Getting guys who know how Walls Street works but owing them no favours because you haven't taken any donations from them and their pals - that's another thing. Um, no. Not even close. Well, why don't you explain how it's not even close. Tut-tutting and hinting ominously doesn't cut it.

You didn't notice that he has put half of Wall street into government positions ?

Debt paid.

Frank wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 8:52am:

And here's the Ur-bedwetter of the snivelling 'not my prez' ninnies: http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/crop_398_43_1432_1328,scalefit_630_noupscale/583d3e6b180000fb1231055c.jpg I bounded into the space at 6 o’clock in a frolic of an outfit: a red belt, white skinny jeans, and a blue Hillary-as-Rosie-the-Riveter T-shirt, my hair lavishly coiffed into a confident pompadour. At first the sprawling party was a lark. I hobnobbed and table hopped. I couldn’t wait for a catharsis 25 years in the making. My only concern was the inevitable hangover. Then came the 9 o’clock hour. Results from battleground states trickled in and an incredulous anxiety took hold. I left the VIP party area for a spell and stood with the expectant crowd before the elaborate victory speech stage. ... uring the final hour of November 8, I had committed myself to institutional psychiatric care. A generation or two ago they would have said I was suffering a nervous breakdown: catatonic, plagued by involuntary jerking motions (my head furiously shaking “No!”), speech patterns disjointed, weeping uncontrollably. ... Terror drove me to this interrupted state. I was afraid for the nation, for the stigmatized and oppressed. I was also afraid for my own life. Because the values and principles I hold dear felt fatally incompatible with the hate and bigotry that Trumpism had come to stand for. I did not want to live in a world that would elect such a man as president. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/my-post-election-crisis-a-top-hillary-fundraisers_us_583d2ae0e4b0bb2962f17854

How good does it feel Frank to support a sexual predator, proud of yourself ?

Dnarever wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 10:39am:

Frank wrote on Dec 4th, 2016 at 8:52am: And here's the Ur-bedwetter of the snivelling 'not my prez' ninnies: http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/crop_398_43_1432_1328,scalefit_630_noupscale/583d3e6b180000fb1231055c.jpg I bounded into the space at 6 o’clock in a frolic of an outfit: a red belt, white skinny jeans, and a blue Hillary-as-Rosie-the-Riveter T-shirt, my hair lavishly coiffed into a confident pompadour. At first the sprawling party was a lark. I hobnobbed and table hopped. I couldn’t wait for a catharsis 25 years in the making. My only concern was the inevitable hangover. Then came the 9 o’clock hour. Results from battleground states trickled in and an incredulous anxiety took hold. I left the VIP party area for a spell and stood with the expectant crowd before the elaborate victory speech stage. ... uring the final hour of November 8, I had committed myself to institutional psychiatric care. A generation or two ago they would have said I was suffering a nervous breakdown: catatonic, plagued by involuntary jerking motions (my head furiously shaking “No!”), speech patterns disjointed, weeping uncontrollably. ... Terror drove me to this interrupted state. I was afraid for the nation, for the stigmatized and oppressed. I was also afraid for my own life. Because the values and principles I hold dear felt fatally incompatible with the hate and bigotry that Trumpism had come to stand for. I did not want to live in a world that would elect such a man as president. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/my-post-election-crisis-a-top-hillary-fundraisers_us_583d2ae0e4b0bb2962f17854 How good does it feel Frank to support a sexual predator, proud of yourself ?

I am laughing at him, not supporting him.

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Dnarever wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 10:36am:

Frank wrote on Dec 4th, 2016 at 8:48am: Marla wrote on Dec 4th, 2016 at 7:51am: Frank wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 7:28pm: Getting guys who know how Walls Street works but owing them no favours because you haven't taken any donations from them and their pals - that's another thing. Um, no. Not even close. Well, why don't you explain how it's not even close. Tut-tutting and hinting ominously doesn't cut it. You didn't notice that he has put half of Wall street into government positions ? Debt paid.

What debt is that?

And who in his cabinet are current Wall Street operatives?

Frank wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 10:53am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 4th, 2016 at 10:39am: Frank wrote on Dec 4th, 2016 at 8:52am: And here's the Ur-bedwetter of the snivelling 'not my prez' ninnies: http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/crop_398_43_1432_1328,scalefit_630_noupscale/583d3e6b180000fb1231055c.jpg I bounded into the space at 6 o’clock in a frolic of an outfit: a red belt, white skinny jeans, and a blue Hillary-as-Rosie-the-Riveter T-shirt, my hair lavishly coiffed into a confident pompadour. At first the sprawling party was a lark. I hobnobbed and table hopped. I couldn’t wait for a catharsis 25 years in the making. My only concern was the inevitable hangover. Then came the 9 o’clock hour. Results from battleground states trickled in and an incredulous anxiety took hold. I left the VIP party area for a spell and stood with the expectant crowd before the elaborate victory speech stage. ... uring the final hour of November 8, I had committed myself to institutional psychiatric care. A generation or two ago they would have said I was suffering a nervous breakdown: catatonic, plagued by involuntary jerking motions (my head furiously shaking “No!”), speech patterns disjointed, weeping uncontrollably. ... Terror drove me to this interrupted state. I was afraid for the nation, for the stigmatized and oppressed. I was also afraid for my own life. Because the values and principles I hold dear felt fatally incompatible with the hate and bigotry that Trumpism had come to stand for. I did not want to live in a world that would elect such a man as president. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/my-post-election-crisis-a-top-hillary-fundraisers_us_583d2ae0e4b0bb2962f17854 How good does it feel Frank to support a sexual predator, proud of yourself ? I am laughing at him, not supporting him. http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/crop_398_43_1432_1328,scalefit_630_noupscale/583d3e6b180000fb1231055c.jpg

Your laughing at Donald the mad rooter Trump ?

Fuzzball wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 7:50am:

A never ending torrent of BS from the leftards when Trump isn't even in the Oval Office yet, can't you numpties wait until January, or are you so consumed by leftard bias that you can't help your pathetic pizz weak selves? ::)

He is appointing his cabinet NOW. It is certainly fair to point out that far from 'draining the swamp' he is giving the swamp-creatures more power.

If you supported Trump you have just been made a fool of. Of course to have voted Trump in the first place you had to be a fool so perhaps there isnt any difference.

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 4:54pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Dec 4th, 2016 at 7:50am: A never ending torrent of BS from the leftards when Trump isn't even in the Oval Office yet, can't you numpties wait until January, or are you so consumed by leftard bias that you can't help your pathetic pizz weak selves? ::) He is appointing his cabinet NOW. It is certainly fair to point out that far from 'draining the swamp' he is giving the swamp-creatures more power. If you supported Trump you have just been made a fool of. Of course to have voted Trump in the first place you had to be a fool so perhaps there isnt any difference.

Well he has just reneged on a new Air Force One 747 from Boeing costing 4 billion. More than 10 times the usual price for a stock 747.
As well as Trump just settled a new deal from a Japanese firm worth 50 billion in the US. That's 50 thousand new jobs and a flow on of many, many more.
Not bad! He's not even in office yet.

Your not to bright are you Longweekend? Please be honest now and admit it.

There is a joke here. If the press saw Donald walk on water the papers would report it as "Trump can't swim".

Frank wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 8:48am:

Well, why don't you explain how it's not even close. Tut-tutting and hinting ominously doesn't cut it.

What exactly is your smacking problem, Frank? Did Grumpy Trumpy not fulfill your white entitlement? It's pinpricks like yourself (and Sprinty Boy with Goebbels) who don't know poo about politics much less America politics who always have loudest mouths.

I never was an fan of Hillary but something is fundamentally wrong with any system where the "winner" of an election gets 2.5 million (so far) LESS votes than the "loser" of the election.

The other thought that comes to mind is the idea that the so-called "founding fathers" actually intended the Electoral College as a "fail safe" to prevent somebody who was completely incompetent and thoroughly incapable of holding the office from being inaugurated. While it would be tempting to apply that idea to Reagan or Bush - at least they allegedly had served as governors, so on paper, they were "qualified".

Grumpy Trumpy is not. Day by day his inane cabinet picks are proving exactly how much of a incompetent asshole he is. It's not simply that he's nominating scab rag right wing extremists, it's that he is nominating them for jobs they are not remotely qualified for. They are nothing more than Wall Street crooks - the same type of crook Grumpy Trumpy called Clinton as being.

This is EXACTLY the type of situation the Electoral College allegedly exists for. Let's hope they act accordingly. Don't pick Trump OR Hillary. Find an FDR Democrat or an Eisenhower Republican. Either one would be an improvement over this dayglo orange clusterbugger.

America needs to rotate its primary & caucus schedule every election cycle, instead of starting every election in corporate-dominated Iowa and tiny little rich bitch New Hampshire only to hit just about every shithole state in the ol' Confederacy all of which favors the most right wing nominees of either party.

Not to mention it lags way too long. Even your capitalist industrialized country has its entire election season over and done within a matter of weeks, or a few months at most. The US presidential election has now become a full two year process. This particular election cycle felt more like 10 years and in a lot of way, its still not over.

A 4 year rotation with all the primaries & caucuses should held 10 or 12 at a time, every weekend in April of election year, and they should be on the weekends, so most people will have the day off.

Extended voting hours from 6 AM to 10 PM to allow the most possible voting availability for those who have to work weekends, or those who have religious reasons which would prevent them from voting at certain hours of the day. Anybody who still can't vote within that schedule can get an absentee ballot, or vote by proxy in the caucus, if their own state party allows it so that this Trump poo never happens again.

That dayglo orange buggerer is an outright embarrassment and a genuine threat to humanity. I seriously wonder what pinpricks like yourself will be spewing when he inflicts the damage he is going to do to the world.

AiA wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2016 at 7:17pm:

Trump says he is "draining the swamp" but the people he is appointing by and large are the swamp ...

He's draining the swamp and then pissing in it.

Marla wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 2:41pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 4th, 2016 at 8:48am: Well, why don't you explain how it's not even close. Tut-tutting and hinting ominously doesn't cut it. What exactly is your smacking problem, Frank? Did Grumpy Trumpy not fulfill your white entitlement? It's pinpricks like yourself (and Sprinty Boy with Goebbels) who don't know poo about politics much less America politics who always have loudest mouths. I never was an fan of Hillary but something is fundamentally wrong with any system where the "winner" of an election gets 2.5 million (so far) LESS votes than the "loser" of the election. The other thought that comes to mind is the idea that the so-called "founding fathers" actually intended the Electoral College as a "fail safe" to prevent somebody who was completely incompetent and thoroughly incapable of holding the office from being inaugurated. While it would be tempting to apply that idea to Reagan or Bush - at least they allegedly had served as governors, so on paper, they were "qualified". Grumpy Trumpy is not. Day by day his inane cabinet picks are proving exactly how much of a incompetent asshole he is. It's not simply that he's nominating scab rag right wing extremists, it's that he is nominating them for jobs they are not remotely qualified for. They are nothing more than Wall Street crooks - the same type of crook Grumpy Trumpy called Clinton as being. This is EXACTLY the type of situation the Electoral College allegedly exists for. Let's hope they act accordingly. Don't pick Trump OR Hillary. Find an FDR Democrat or an Eisenhower Republican. Either one would be an improvement over this dayglo orange clusterbugger. America needs to rotate its primary & caucus schedule every election cycle, instead of starting every election in corporate-dominated Iowa and tiny little rich bitch New Hampshire only to hit just about every shithole state in the ol' Confederacy all of which favors the most right wing nominees of either party. Not to mention it lags way too long. Even your capitalist industrialized country has its entire election season over and done within a matter of weeks, or a few months at most. The US presidential election has now become a full two year process. This particular election cycle felt more like 10 years and in a lot of way, its still not over. A 4 year rotation with all the primaries & caucuses should held 10 or 12 at a time, every weekend in April of election year, and they should be on the weekends, so most people will have the day off. Extended voting hours from 6 AM to 10 PM to allow the most possible voting availability for those who have to work weekends, or those who have religious reasons which would prevent them from voting at certain hours of the day. Anybody who still can't vote within that schedule can get an absentee ballot, or vote by proxy in the caucus, if their own state party allows it so that this Trump poo never happens again. That dayglo orange buggerer is an outright embarrassment and a genuine threat to humanity. I seriously wonder what pinpricks like yourself will be spewing when he inflicts the damage he is going to do to the world.

Post of the month.

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I seriously wonder what pinpricks like yourself will be spewing when he inflicts the damage he is going to do to the world.

Oh, Frank will do what he always does. He'll pretend he was never in favour of Trump to begin with. Frank calls this his early-onset dementia - I'm not making this up. If you catch him out telling porkies, he giggles nervously and changes the subject.

Frank also calls this intelligence and integrity - I'm not making this up either. When he received a life-ban for being a nasty old crank, he just changed his name. He was on his best behavior for a while, but he couldn't keep it up.

You can see how Frank would love an old fool like Trump. Trump is actually saner than Frank. But watch - before long, Trump will p!ss Frank off. Frank will cheer Trump on as he starts a war with China, but he'll be most peeved when Trump turns the US into a socialist dictatorship.

Yes, Frank has been quoting a lot of Marx lately to get ready, but he can't keep this up for long. Frank hates the workers. He worships the Establishment. The only thing he has in common with Trump is they both hate those Frank calls the tinted races.

Intelligence and integrity, innit.

Marla wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 2:41pm:

Grumpy Trumpy is not. Day by day his inane cabinet picks are proving exactly how much of a incompetent asshole he is. It's not simply that he's nominating scab rag right wing extremists, it's that he is nominating them for jobs they are not remotely qualified for. They are nothing more than Wall Street crooks - the same type of crook Grumpy Trumpy called Clinton as being.

Here's a prediction... What's the bet he overlaps their respective remits such that he hogties them to the point where they cannot fully execute their duties...

Richdude wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 1:36pm:

Well he has just reneged on a new Air Force One 747 from Boeing costing 4 billion. More than 10 times the usual price for a stock 747.

no one knows where he got that number from ... it seems like in usual trump fashion, he made it up

ohh, and he only pulled the plug because it's not due to be finished until the end of his second term ... he knows he'll never get a second term when he fails to deliver in the first term. :D :D