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Message started by Mr Hammer on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 6:58am

Title: What do we do with a problem like Ahok?
Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 6:58am
Poor ole Ahok, the  Governor of Indonesia (a Christian), made the mistake of quoting a verse from the Qur'an that imputed a Muslim need not vote for a fellow Muslim. Now the vast majority of Indonesians want his head. Shafi'i (or blasphemy) the 200,000 strong crowd chant. What will be his fate? Apparently beheading and hanging are off the list because he apologised. That leaves fines, imprisonment, flogging and amputation. I bet ole Ahok is hoping for fines!

Title: Re: What do we do with a problem like Ahok?
Post by Gordon on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 7:54am

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 6:58am:
Poor ole Ahok, the  Governor of Indonesia (a Christian), made the mistake of quoting a verse from the Qur'an that imputed a Muslim need not vote for a fellow Muslim. Now the vast majority of Indonesians want his head. Shafi'i (or blasphemy) the 200,000 strong crowd chant. What will be his fate? Apparently beheading and hanging are off the list because he apologised. That leaves fines, imprisonment, flogging and amputation. I bet ole Ahok is hoping for fines!


Karnal will be along any minute to point out the Islamists are just exercising their democratic freedoms. Derrrr.

Title: Re: What do we do with a problem like Ahok?
Post by freediver on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 7:59am
I think we are supposed to pretend it isn't a problem to begin with.

Title: Re: What do we do with a problem like Ahok?
Post by Yadda on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:24am

Gordon wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 7:54am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 6:58am:
Poor ole Ahok, the  Governor of Indonesia (a Christian), made the mistake of quoting a verse from the Qur'an that imputed a Muslim need not vote for a fellow Muslim. Now the vast majority of Indonesians want his head. Shafi'i (or blasphemy) the 200,000 strong crowd chant. What will be his fate? Apparently beheading and hanging are off the list because he apologised. That leaves fines, imprisonment, flogging and amputation. I bet ole Ahok is hoping for fines!


Karnal will be along any minute to point out the Islamists are just exercising their democratic freedoms. Derrrr.




Gordon,

Don't forget gandalf!

gandalf too,          believes in the rights of moslems to exercise their democratic freedoms.




Next gandalf will be claiming that, all moslems embrace 'liberal', and tolerant political views.      !!!     :)


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polite_gandalf wrote on May 14th, 2016 at 10:59am:


Quote:
"Peace summarises everything in Islam..."


Thanks Yadda - good quote.  :)






Title: Re: What do we do with a problem like Ahok?
Post by Yadda on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:28am

Ahok?



Give him to the moslem mob.

And then we will really witness the purity and grace of 'the moslem',       .....that virtuous man, who is a follower of Allah.



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"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
Koran 3.110



Title: Re: What do we do with a problem like Ahok?
Post by Karnal on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:47am

freediver wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 7:59am:
I think we are supposed to pretend it isn't a problem to begin with.


Your response to what the problem actually is?

Silence.

Title: Re: What do we do with a problem like Ahok?
Post by Gordon on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:49am

Karnal wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:47am:

freediver wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 7:59am:
I think we are supposed to pretend it isn't a problem to begin with.


Your response to what the problem actually is?

Silence.


Your response is to go an poop in the corner and shout...the jews.. the jews...

Title: Re: What do we do with a problem like Ahok?
Post by Karnal on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:51am

Gordon wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:49am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:47am:

freediver wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 7:59am:
I think we are supposed to pretend it isn't a problem to begin with.


Your response to what the problem actually is?

aSilence.


Your response is to go an poop in the corner and shout...the jews.. the jews...


That was Holland, dear. Different country.

Title: Re: What do we do with a problem like Ahok?
Post by Gordon on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:57am

Karnal wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:51am:

Gordon wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:49am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:47am:

freediver wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 7:59am:
I think we are supposed to pretend it isn't a problem to begin with.


Your response to what the problem actually is?

aSilence.


Your response is to go an poop in the corner and shout...the jews.. the jews...


That was Holland, dear. Different country.


First they came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Muslim

And then we got on with living in a happy secular pre mass immigration from the Middle East society.

Title: Re: What do we do with a problem like Ahok?
Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 11:01am
What would you suggest poor ole Ahok's punishment should be, Carnal? I know, one way or the other it has to be limb-lopping with Muslims. Arms, legs, tree branches...

Title: Re: What do we do with a problem like Ahok?
Post by Gordon on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 11:12am
Jail is the only option.

Two rallies of 200k people. Imagine if charges were dropped or found innocent? Do you think the Islamists would accept the rule of law?

Title: Re: What do we do with a problem like Ahok?
Post by Karnal on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 11:52am

Gordon wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:57am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:51am:

Gordon wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:49am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:47am:

freediver wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 7:59am:
I think we are supposed to pretend it isn't a problem to begin with.


Your response to what the problem actually is?

aSilence.


Your response is to go an poop in the corner and shout...the jews.. the jews...


That was Holland, dear. Different country.


First they came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Muslim

And then we got on with living in a happy secular pre mass immigration from the Middle East society.


Oh, I know. In Jehovah Heights.

Most multicultural of you, Gordon.

They refuse to assimilate, you see.

Title: Re: What do we do with a problem like Ahok?
Post by Karnal on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 11:54am

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 11:01am:
What would you suggest poor ole Ahok's punishment should be, Carnal? I know, one way or the other it has to be limb-lopping with Muslims. Arms, legs, tree branches...


Send him to Rooty Hill. A stint on the council should put him right.

Title: Re: What do we do with a problem like Ahok?
Post by John Smith on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 1:41pm
What do we do with a problem like Ahok?

so this is our problem now? :D :D

Title: Re: What do we do with a problem like Ahok?
Post by Frank on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 1:49pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 1:41pm:
What do we do with a problem like Ahok?

so this is our problem now? :D :D



True.

Same goes for all the illegals on Manus and Nauru - not our problem.  Same for the other Africans, Arabs, Rohingas, Afghans and all the rest of them fouling up their own countries. They are just as much our problem as the mayor of Jakarta is.

Good point.









Title: Re: What do we do with a problem like Ahok?
Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 1:53pm
I meant 'we' in a very brotherly sense. I mean this bad ass has to be dealt with; imagine a Muslim not voting for a Muslim.  The question is; How much amputation is too much?

Title: Re: What do we do with a problem like Ahok?
Post by John Smith on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 6:29pm

Frank wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 1:49pm:
Same goes for all the illegals on Manus and Nauru - not our problem.



yes they are ... Even if you pretend we're not bombing their homes, we still put them there.

Title: Re: What do we do with a problem like Ahok?
Post by Frank on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 7:53pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 6:29pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 1:49pm:
Same goes for all the illegals on Manus and Nauru - not our problem.



yes they are ... Even if you pretend we're not bombing their homes, we still put them there.

Only because they wanted to illegally intrude.

Illegal intruders must be kept out.




Title: Re: What do we do with a problem like Ahok?
Post by John Smith on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 7:55pm

Frank wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 7:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 6:29pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 1:49pm:
Same goes for all the illegals on Manus and Nauru - not our problem.



yes they are ... Even if you pretend we're not bombing their homes, we still put them there.

Only because they wanted to illegally intrude.

Illegal intruders must be kept out.


nothing illegal about claiming asylum.

Title: Re: What do we do with a problem like Ahok?
Post by Frank on Dec 4th, 2016 at 8:59am

John Smith wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 7:55pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 7:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 6:29pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 1:49pm:
Same goes for all the illegals on Manus and Nauru - not our problem.



yes they are ... Even if you pretend we're not bombing their homes, we still put them there.

Only because they wanted to illegally intrude.

Illegal intruders must be kept out.


nothing illegal about claiming asylum.

Entering illegally is not claiming asylum.  It's intrusion.

Claim asylum in Indonesia. It's safe.
Isn't it?  For Muslims it is, at any rate.







Title: Re: What do we do with a problem like Ahok?
Post by John Smith on Dec 4th, 2016 at 9:58am

Frank wrote on Dec 4th, 2016 at 8:59am:
Claim asylum in Indonesia.


no they can't. Indonesia doesn't recognise asylum seekers.

Title: Re: What do we do with a problem like Ahok?
Post by Frank on Dec 4th, 2016 at 10:36am

John Smith wrote on Dec 4th, 2016 at 9:58am:

Frank wrote on Dec 4th, 2016 at 8:59am:
Claim asylum in Indonesia.


no they can't. Indonesia doesn't recognise asylum seekers.


Of course they can, of course they do. You can claim asylum anywhere, regardless of the country being a signatory to a convention.
Today, UNHCR has more than 60 people working in Indonesia. As of end of January 2016, there are 7,616 asylum seekers cumulatively registered with UNHCR Jakarta mainly from Afghanistan (50%), Somalia (10%) and Myanmar (5%). Meanwhile the number of refugees registered with UNHCR Jakarta is 6,063 people mainly from Afghanistan (49%), Myanmar (11%), and Somalia (8%).




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