According to the Washington Examiner, reporting the Penn State Dept, the recount deadline has been missed.

The intellectual giants behind this sham/scam will now have to find a court to listen to their whinges about why the deadline should be extended by over a week.

Will they give back the money?

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 29^th, 2016 at 12:24pm:

According to the Washington Examiner, reporting the Penn State Dept, the recount deadline has been missed. The intellectual giants behind this sham/scam will now have to find a court to listen to their whinges about why the deadline should be extended by over a week. Will they give back the money?

Source:      USA Today      
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Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein officially requested a vote recount in Wisconsin Friday and has indicated she intends to do the same in Michigan and Pennsylvania. Here's a rundown of what you need to know about the recounts and what to expect: Could the recount change the outcome of the election? While technically possible, even Stein admits the recounts are unlikely to change the results of the election. She would have to be able to initiate a state-wide recount in all three states, and then Clinton would have to overcome her vote deficits in each one to wrest the electoral votes needed from Trump. In what states are the recounts being requested? So far, Stein has only officially filed for a recount in Wisconsin, although she plans to ask for recounts in Michigan and Pennsylvania as well. What are the votes differences in the three states? • Michigan: Trump ahead 10,704 votes. • Pennsylvania: Trump ahead 70,638 votes. • Wisconsin: Trump ahead 22,177 votes. How have the Clinton and Trump teams responded? The Clinton campaign announced that it will participate in the Wisconsin recount to ensure fairness. Trump called the effort a "scam" aimed at filling the Green Party's "coffers." Clinton lawyer pushes back at Trump's attacks in response to recount What are the deadlines? Stein must file her recount request by Monday in Pennsylvania and by Wednesday in Michigan. Those states must complete their recounts by a Dec. 13 deadline set by the federal government. The big deadline is Dec. 19 when all of the states' electors must meet to cast their Electoral College votes. States that miss those deadlines risk not having their electoral votes counted. Why is Jill Stein the one requesting the recount? Stein has cited "statistical anomalies," the differences between exit polls and actual results, and the possibility that election machines were hacked as the reasons for her recount effort. She says she wants voters to "be sure we have a fair, secure and accurate voting system.” Why did Stein have to raise money for the recount? Recounts aren't cheap and each state has its own laws about who and what can trigger them. In Wisconsin, a candidate who loses by more than 0.25% must pay for the cost of the recount, which could amount to as much as $1 million. In Michigan, when the margin in a race is more than 0.5%, the candidate must pay $125 per precinct, which adds up to $787,500. Stein estimates the Pennsylvania recount will cost $500,000. She also assumes $2-3 million in legal fees. So far, she has raised almost $6.3 million of the $7 million she's seeking to cover the total costs for the three recounts. Could recount requests be rejected? Yes. Wisconsin has already announced that the recount will begin Thursday if the fees are paid but Tuesday, but the state election commission rejected Stein's request for a hand recount. That leaves it up to each of the state's 72 counties whether to perform the recount by machine or by hand. Stein intends to challenge the ruling in court. In Michigan, the request goes to the Board of State Canvassers and Trump can challenge the request. Pennsylvania is more complicated where Stein can't simply file for a recount. She must win a lawsuit and provide evidence of voting irregularities or she must get three voters in each of the state's 9,163 voting precincts to request a recount — although at least one election official says the deadline for a voter-initiated recount has already passed. Even if she overcomes this major hurdle, there's this problem: Pennsylvania relies on electronic voting machines and there is no paper ballot or receipts to look at in a recount.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/28/election-recount-jill-stein-hillary-clinton-donald-trump

How desperate are you Bog..the deadline is December 13th..and you know it...lying won't change the truth.

And I hope the re counters corrupt the re count process for Clinton to take office and then in turn, make Twump miss the deadline in case he wanted to launch a counter re count lol  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

DO IT AMERICA.... ;) :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 29^th, 2016 at 12:24pm:

According to the Washington Examiner, reporting the Penn State Dept, the recount deadline has been missed. The intellectual giants behind this sham/scam will now have to find a court to listen to their whinges about why the deadline should be extended by over a week. Will they give back the money?

Why do you bother with No Idea posts like this..no link means it never , happened like in this and every post you have ever made . tsk tsk. So dashing yet so rotten to the core..must be a retard thing.

Agnes wrote on Nov 29^th, 2016 at 12:58pm:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/28/election-recount-jill-stein-hillary-clinton-donald-trump How desperate are you Bog..the deadline is December 13th..and you know it...lying won't change the truth......

@Agnes   The deadline to initiate a voter based/requested recount is (was) Monday, the 28^th of November in Pennsylvania ........ if she was successful there, & the recount was to take place, the recount deadline......the date the recount must be completed by......is
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............... Stein estimates the Pennsylvania recount will cost $500,000. She also assumes $2-3 million in legal fees. So far, she has raised almost $6.3 million of the $7 million she's seeking to cover the total costs for the three recounts.................

The legal estimate is highly inflated.
stein has $5M in her bank account.

Panther wrote on Nov 29^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 29th, 2016 at 12:58pm: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/28/election-recount-jill-stein-hillary-clinton-donald-trump How desperate are you Bog..the deadline is December 13th..and you know it...lying won't change the truth...... @Agnes   The deadline to initiate a voter based/requested recount is (was) Monday, the 28th of November in Pennsylvania ........ if she was successful there, & the recount was to take place, the recount deadline......the date the recount must be completed by......is the 13th of December. http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/taunt.gif https://rachelhopecleves.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/images.jpeg https://i.imgsafe.org/01c7422.gif

Am not finding a link to back up your claims Panther, nor did you provide one..as far as I can see the re count still going ahead and somethimg tells me Stein is a bit more clued in than you and the no ideas in here, if I may say so..lets wait and see..if Twump is within the law he has nothing to worry about..  I think there is enough doubt to got to another election..

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 29^th, 2016 at 12:24pm:

According to the Washington Examiner, reporting the Penn State Dept, the recount deadline has been missed. The intellectual giants behind this sham/scam will now have to find a court to listen to their whinges about why the deadline should be extended by over a week. Will they give back the money?

And the answer is no they won't.

"On a fundraising page, Stein pledges that any unused money for the recounts will go “toward election integrity efforts and to promote voting system reform.”
Or in other words, they're keeping it.

Agnes wrote on Nov 29^th, 2016 at 2:33pm:

Panther wrote on Nov 29th, 2016 at 1:16pm: Agnes wrote on Nov 29th, 2016 at 12:58pm: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/28/election-recount-jill-stein-hillary-clinton-donald-trump How desperate are you Bog..the deadline is December 13th..and you know it...lying won't change the truth...... @Agnes   The deadline to initiate a voter based/requested recount is (was) Monday, the 28th of November in Pennsylvania ........ if she was successful there, & the recount was to take place, the recount deadline......the date the recount must be completed by......is the 13th of December. http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/taunt.gif https://rachelhopecleves.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/images.jpeg https://i.imgsafe.org/01c7422.gif Am not finding a link to back up your claims Panther, nor did you provide one..as far as I can see the re count still going ahead and somethimg tells me Stein is a bit more clued in than you and the no ideas in here, if I may say so..lets wait and see..if Twump is within the law he has nothing to worry about..  I think there is enough doubt to got to another election..

And stein has pocketed $5+M.

Agnes wrote on Nov 29^th, 2016 at 2:33pm:

Am not finding a link to back up your claims Panther, nor did you provide one........

Look up above your first post, you know the one you made the mother of all booboos in.....now read the yellow highlighted parts....& the link is the Source....you know....where I got the info from....the USA Today.

"None are so blind as those that refuse to see"........or read :P

If yer lazy.....try this

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 29^th, 2016 at 12:24pm:

According to the Washington Examiner, reporting the Penn State Dept, the recount deadline has been missed. The intellectual giants behind this sham/scam will now have to find a court to listen to their whinges about why the deadline should be extended by over a week. Will they give back the money?

maybe the Clinton foundation is running out of money????... are the Arabs still peeing in her pocket?

Stein must file her recount request by Monday in Pennsylvania and by Wednesday in Michigan. Those states must complete their recounts by a Dec. 13 deadline set by the federal government. The big deadline is Dec. 19 when all of the states' electors must meet to cast their Electoral College votes. States that miss those deadlines risk not having their electoral votes counted.

I guess it all depend on how you read this..

I see that as her request for a recount wasnt put in on the due dates..


agnes that has nothing to do with the recount..that must be completed by the 13.dec..


there is a slight difference I am thinking!!!!

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/pennsylvania-state-department-says-stein-missed-recount-deadline/article/2608305


Jill Stein has everything she needs to launch a presidential recount. She's got the cash, the grassroots fervor and the spotlight of an adoring media. But there's one thing she needs to overturn Trump's victory: a calendar.

Stein missed Pennsylvania's deadline to file for a voter-initiated recount. That blown deadline is a huge blow for Democrats who have pinned their hopes on recounts in the Keystone State, Michigan and Wisconsin.

"According to Wanda Murren, spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of State," the Philadelphia Inquirer reported Monday, "the deadline for a voter-initiated recount was Monday, Nov. 21."

To keep their hopes alive, Stein has mounted a legal challenge in an attempt to force a recount. While the chances of litigation are uncertain, the vote tally is clear. Trump beat Clinton in Pennsylvania, a feat not accomplished by a Republican since George H.W. Bush in 1988.



sorry agnes....

cods wrote on Nov 29^th, 2016 at 3:22pm:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/pennsylvania-state-department-says-stein-missed-recount-deadline/article/2608305 Jill Stein has everything she needs to launch a presidential recount. She's got the cash, the grassroots fervor and the spotlight of an adoring media. But there's one thing she needs to overturn Trump's victory: a calendar. Stein missed Pennsylvania's deadline to file for a voter-initiated recount. That blown deadline is a huge blow for Democrats who have pinned their hopes on recounts in the Keystone State, Michigan and Wisconsin. "According to Wanda Murren, spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of State," the Philadelphia Inquirer reported Monday, "the deadline for a voter-initiated recount was Monday, Nov. 21." To keep their hopes alive, Stein has mounted a legal challenge in an attempt to force a recount. While the chances of litigation are uncertain, the vote tally is clear. Trump beat Clinton in Pennsylvania, a feat not accomplished by a Republican since George H.W. Bush in 1988. sorry agnes....

sorry..I doubt it.

And I will adopt a wait and see attitude..there is something rotten in the state of Denmark.. it needs to be purged.

Agnes wrote on Nov 29^th, 2016 at 3:51pm:

cods wrote on Nov 29th, 2016 at 3:22pm: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/pennsylvania-state-department-says-stein-missed-recount-deadline/article/2608305 Jill Stein has everything she needs to launch a presidential recount. She's got the cash, the grassroots fervor and the spotlight of an adoring media. But there's one thing she needs to overturn Trump's victory: a calendar. Stein missed Pennsylvania's deadline to file for a voter-initiated recount. That blown deadline is a huge blow for Democrats who have pinned their hopes on recounts in the Keystone State, Michigan and Wisconsin. "According to Wanda Murren, spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of State," the Philadelphia Inquirer reported Monday, "the deadline for a voter-initiated recount was Monday, Nov. 21." To keep their hopes alive, Stein has mounted a legal challenge in an attempt to force a recount. While the chances of litigation are uncertain, the vote tally is clear. Trump beat Clinton in Pennsylvania, a feat not accomplished by a Republican since George H.W. Bush in 1988. sorry agnes.... sorry..I doubt it. And I will adopt a wait and see attitude..there is something rotten in the state of Denmark.. it needs to be purged.

goodness me...why so bitchy agnes..

I am sorry boges didnt post the link.. but it wasnt hard to find....get over the losing bit agnes....your bitterness is clouding your perspective..

its true what boges op said....suck it up...

Agnes wrote on Nov 29^th, 2016 at 3:51pm:

......I will adopt a wait and see attitude..there is something rotten in the state of Denmark.........

State of Denmark, so you flunked Geography too?!

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Agnes wrote on Nov 29^th, 2016 at 3:51pm:

cods wrote on Nov 29th, 2016 at 3:22pm: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/pennsylvania-state-department-says-stein-missed-recount-deadline/article/2608305 Jill Stein has everything she needs to launch a presidential recount. She's got the cash, the grassroots fervor and the spotlight of an adoring media. But there's one thing she needs to overturn Trump's victory: a calendar. Stein missed Pennsylvania's deadline to file for a voter-initiated recount. That blown deadline is a huge blow for Democrats who have pinned their hopes on recounts in the Keystone State, Michigan and Wisconsin. "According to Wanda Murren, spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of State," the Philadelphia Inquirer reported Monday, "the deadline for a voter-initiated recount was Monday, Nov. 21." To keep their hopes alive, Stein has mounted a legal challenge in an attempt to force a recount. While the chances of litigation are uncertain, the vote tally is clear. Trump beat Clinton in Pennsylvania, a feat not accomplished by a Republican since George H.W. Bush in 1988. sorry agnes.... sorry..I doubt it. And I will adopt a wait and see attitude..there is something rotten in the state of Denmark.. it needs to be purged.

stein has pocketed $5+M.

A judge in Pennsylvania has thrown out the Stein petition for a recount.
The one positive note to come from this farce is that it has demonstrated to millions round the world what a bunch of useful idiots the Greens are.

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As most people are still trying to figure out exactly what Jill Stein is doing and why she's doing it, a judge in Montgomery County Pennsylvania, just north of Philadelphia, has decided he's seen enough.  After hearing arguments from attorneys representing Jill Stein’s campaign and the Montgomery County Board of Elections, Judge Bernard A. Moore dismissed the petitions of voters in 78 precincts to recount votes or forensically analyze voting machines due a lack of evidence and improperly filed petitions.  Per The Times Herald of Montgomery County: “What we keep going back to is that our voting machines are not connected to the internet,” said board of elections Solicitor Nicole Forzato. “Montgomery County takes great, great pride in being concerned about its infrastructure for IT generally, and they have gone through a vigorous process to make sure our technology general, including voter services technology and the voting machines are safe and secure to use. ” The judge did not give an explanation of his dismissal, but objections made by Forzato focused on two areas: first, that there was insufficient evidence to suggest that the machines had been tampered with in any way and second, that the petitions were not filed properly with the proper fees. Stein campaign attorney Ilann Maazel argued that voting machines throughout Pennsylvania were vulnerable to hacking. He stated that the effort to request a recount or analysis of the machines was to make sure every vote was counted. “We know that Donald Trump won the vote of machines in Pennsylvania. We want to know who won the vote of the people,” Maazel said. Maazel also argued that the manner in which the petitions were filed, county-by-county and district-by-district, was a result of “byzantine” election statutes in the commonwealth. “They’re requiring fees that don’t exist, they are proposing deadlines that don’t exist,” Maazel said. “The Republican Party is saying that over 27,000 people in 9,000 districts have to request a recount or there can’t be a recount anywhere. What kind of system is that? That is a disgrace.” Of course, this result is not terribly shocking given that even Jill Stein admits there is "no evidence of fraud at the ballot box." As we noted yesterday, Jill Stein was also defeated in a Wisconsin court for failing to present any credible evidence of vote tampering. While this should come as a shock to precisely no one other than some disaffected Hillary supporters who were hoping for a miracle, Jill Stein's request for a full "hand recount" in the state of Wisconsin has officially been denied by Dane County Circuit Judge Valerie Bailey-Rihn.  According to the StarTribune, the request was denied after the judge found that Stein failed to show any mistakes or irregularities that would bring a machine recount into question. A Wisconsin judge has refused to order local officials to conduct the state's presidential recount by hand. Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein requested the recount last week. She alleged — without evidence — that the state's voting equipment may have been hacked. The state Elections Commission has ordered the recount to begin Thursday but rejected Stein's request that county clerks conduct the recount entirely by hand. Stein filed a lawsuit seeking an order for a statewide hand recount. Stein's attorneys argued during a hearing Tuesday evening that the best way to determine if a cyberattack occurred is to check ballots by hand against electronic tabulations from Election Day. State lawyers countered there's no evidence to suggest any attack took place. Dane County Circuit Judge Valerie Bailey-Rihn refused to issue the order, saying Stein's team failed to show any mistakes or irregularities that would bring a machine recount into question. It's time to let this one go, Jill.  It was a good effort Green Party presidential candidate

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-01/more-bad-news-jill-stein-pennsylvania-judge-blocks-recount-petitions

Yeah I read that too Sprint. The last sentence is a bit stupid though. It wasn't a good effort, it was a sham/scam and a waste of a lot of people's time & money.

bogarde73 wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2016 at 9:37am:

Yeah I read that too Sprint. The last sentence is a bit stupid though. It wasn't a good effort, it was a sham/scam and a waste of a lot of people's time & money.

This one is a bit of a head scratcher


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.............Dane County Circuit Judge Valerie Bailey-Rihn refused to issue the order, saying Stein's team failed to show any mistakes or irregularities that would bring a machine recount into question. ........

President-elect Donald Trump 's lawyers have filed an objection to the recount in Michigan, delaying and potentially blocking a review that was slated to begin Friday.
Michigan Secretary of State Ruth Johnson (R) said that the state's Bureau of Elections received the objection from Trump representatives on Thursday, a day after Green Party nominee Jill Stein filed for a recount.

“Under Michigan law, the recount is halted when the Board of State Canvassers resolves the objection,” Johnson said in a statement. "The board, which by law must resolve the complaint within five days, is scheduled to consider resolution of the objection, tomorrow, Dec. 2.
“If the objection is not adopted by the board, the recount can commence the second business day following the board’s decision. If the board adopts the objection, the recount would be ended.”

Lawyers representing Trump outlined their case for ending Stein’s recount effort in a 36-page filing to the Michigan Board of State Canvassers on Thursday.

“Green Party presidential candidate Dr. Jill Stein received barely 1 percent of the vote in the 2016 Michigan presidential election, finishing over 2.2 million votes behind the winner,” they wrote.

“Stein, in fact, finished no higher than fourth in any state where she appeared on the ballot,” they added. "Yet despite being just a blip on the electoral radar, Stein has now commandeered Michigan’s electoral process.

“Simply put, Michigan should not grant this lawless, insulting request, and its voters should not risk having the Electoral College door knocked off its hinges, all because a 1-percent candidate is dissatisfied with the election’s outcome.”
Trump’s lawyers said Stein is not entitled to a recount as her election results mean she was not “aggrieved” by any alleged fraud or misconduct.

The legal team also noted Michigan would struggle to finish a full recount by Dec. 13, the deadline for casting its Electoral College votes. Trump’s attorneys added Stein did not properly sign or swear to her petition recount, rendering it void.
Stein filed her request for a recount in the state on Wednesday, two days after Trump was formally declared the winner in the traditionally blue state, which he won by 10,704 votes.

Stein’s campaign has also filed for recounts in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. The president-elect has won all three states, which had gone blue in recent elections.

bogarde73 wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2016 at 2:00pm:

President-elect Donald Trump 's lawyers have filed an objection to the recount in Michigan, delaying and potentially blocking a review that was slated to begin Friday. Michigan Secretary of State Ruth Johnson (R) said that the state's Bureau of Elections received the objection from Trump representatives on Thursday, a day after Green Party nominee Jill Stein filed for a recount. “Under Michigan law, the recount is halted when the Board of State Canvassers resolves the objection,” Johnson said in a statement. "The board, which by law must resolve the complaint within five days, is scheduled to consider resolution of the objection, tomorrow, Dec. 2. “If the objection is not adopted by the board, the recount can commence the second business day following the board’s decision. If the board adopts the objection, the recount would be ended.” Lawyers representing Trump outlined their case for ending Stein’s recount effort in a 36-page filing to the Michigan Board of State Canvassers on Thursday. “Green Party presidential candidate Dr. Jill Stein received barely 1 percent of the vote in the 2016 Michigan presidential election, finishing over 2.2 million votes behind the winner,” they wrote. “Stein, in fact, finished no higher than fourth in any state where she appeared on the ballot,” they added. "Yet despite being just a blip on the electoral radar, Stein has now commandeered Michigan’s electoral process. “Simply put, Michigan should not grant this lawless, insulting request, and its voters should not risk having the Electoral College door knocked off its hinges, all because a 1-percent candidate is dissatisfied with the election’s outcome.” Trump’s lawyers said Stein is not entitled to a recount as her election results mean she was not “aggrieved” by any alleged fraud or misconduct. The legal team also noted Michigan would struggle to finish a full recount by Dec. 13, the deadline for casting its Electoral College votes. Trump’s attorneys added Stein did not properly sign or swear to her petition recount, rendering it void. Stein filed her request for a recount in the state on Wednesday, two days after Trump was formally declared the winner in the traditionally blue state, which he won by 10,704 votes. Stein’s campaign has also filed for recounts in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. The president-elect has won all three states, which had gone blue in recent elections.

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