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Message started by Sprintcyclist on Nov 24th, 2016 at 11:53pm

Title: Trump = 306, hillary = 232
Post by Sprintcyclist on Nov 24th, 2016 at 11:53pm

A handsome victory



Quote:
Lansing — President-elect Donald Trump won Michigan by an even slimmer margin, according to new election results released Wednesday by the Secretary of State’s Office.

In unofficial results updated Wednesday, Trump led Clinton by 10,704 votes, or 2,403 fewer than the original unofficial results available early Nov. 9, hours after polls closed on Election Day, Nov. 8. In other words, Clinton picked up 2,403 votes.

Before Tuesday, the Secretary of State reported that Trump won by a 13,107 unofficial margin.

Tuesday was the deadline for county canvassers to send unofficial ballot counts to the Secretary of State’s Office before the Michigan Board of State Canvassers formally certifies the final ballot counts on Nov. 28.

The results that county canvassers sent to the state Tuesday will be presented to the board of canvassers to certify on Monday, after which results will be official.
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Secretary of State spokesman Fred Woodhams said previously it is highly unlikely enough votes would shift to affect the outcome of a Trump victory.

County canvassing boards and clerks have spent the past couple of weeks double-checking their vote totals and making adjustments so they could meet the Tuesday deadline. In many cases, the clerks were adding votes for Trump and Clinton.

“The canvassing and certification process is how the state of Michigan, like the other 49 states, formally determines a winner in the days immediately following each election,” the Secretary of State’s Office wrote in an online post appended to the new results.


http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/11/23/clinton-trump-votes/94364178/

Title: Re: Trump = 306, hillary = 232
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Nov 25th, 2016 at 1:12am
Trump will easily get a second term and the world will start to get very worried about Greenland melting.

Luckily he back flipped on denying climate change but the world requires action.


Title: Re: Trump = 306, hillary = 232
Post by Marla on Nov 25th, 2016 at 6:00am
Why reply to Sprinty's spam?

Title: Re: Trump = 306, hillary = 232
Post by The Mechanic on Nov 25th, 2016 at 6:18am
but whats all of this talk about Killary still being able to win the election???

struth... even people talking about this shows just how corrupt the US has become... 

Title: Re: Trump = 306, hillary = 232
Post by bogarde73 on Nov 25th, 2016 at 6:44am
Don't waste your time on the issue of election recounts. That is a bubble dream of the snowflakes like Marla.
An excellent analysis of the futility of the Wisconsin recount, probably funded by Clinton, can be found in zero hedge.com.

This election stands and the transition proceeds. All but the deluded know that.

Title: Re: Trump = 306, hillary = 232
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 25th, 2016 at 6:51am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 6:18am:
but whats all of this talk about Killary still being able to win the election??? . 


The Electoral College don't meet until December 19.

That's when the vote that really matters take place.

It's very unlikely that they'll give the election to Clinton, however, it is a possibility (albeit a very slim one).



Title: Re: Trump = 306, hillary = 232
Post by Marla on Nov 25th, 2016 at 6:59am
As usual, blame California. As antiquated as it is, the Electoral College system which has always over-represented smaller rural counties at the expense of California.

Trump simply won 306 electoral votes to Clinton’s 232.

However, a vote in the Electoral College, set for December 19, will officially entitle Trump to take the oath of office next January 20.

By January 20 2018, Trump will be impeached.

Title: Re: Trump = 306, hillary = 232
Post by Yadda on Nov 25th, 2016 at 8:02am

Marla wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 6:59am:
As usual, blame California. As antiquated as it is, the Electoral College system which has always over-represented smaller rural counties at the expense of California.

Trump simply won 306 electoral votes to Clinton’s 232.

However, a vote in the Electoral College, set for December 19, will officially entitle Trump to take the oath of office next January 20.


By January 20 2018, Trump will be impeached.



On what grounds ?



p.s.

Marla,
greggery made a prediction too.

An accurate worldly prediction needs some basis in reality.

So on what grounds will Trump be impeached ?


Title: Re: Trump = 306, hillary = 232
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 25th, 2016 at 8:57am
And with recounts in three states that could go to Clinton, Trump could still lose.

Title: Re: Trump = 306, hillary = 232
Post by issuevoter on Nov 25th, 2016 at 9:00am
The election is rigged! No, Donald, you are only saying that because you think you will loose.
The election was rigged! No, Democrats, you are only saying that because you lost.

Title: Re: Trump = 306, hillary = 232
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 25th, 2016 at 10:46am

issuevoter wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 9:00am:
The election is rigged! No, Donald, you are only saying that because you think you will loose.
The election was rigged! No, Democrats, you are only saying that because you lost.


The irony about Trump claiming it was rigged is that the majority of legislative attempts to disenfranchise subgroups of voters comes from the REpublicans. REmember 2000? They literally opposed a recount. How does any fair and reasonable person oppose a recount when things are so close? They are commonplace in australia and in WA, the recount forced a re-election. Nobody calls foul. We might not like it but we accept that democracy is about votes counting and in this case, actually being counted.

The yanks needs a federal election system out of the grasp of states and various parties. In the AEC you cannot be involved in counting or taking votes if you are a member of a political party. In the USA, political parties virtually control the voting process!

Title: Re: Trump = 306, hillary = 232
Post by Yadda on Nov 25th, 2016 at 12:02pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 10:46am:

issuevoter wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 9:00am:
The election is rigged! No, Donald, you are only saying that because you think you will loose.
The election was rigged! No, Democrats, you are only saying that because you lost.


The irony about Trump claiming it was rigged is that the majority of legislative attempts to disenfranchise subgroups of voters comes from the REpublicans. REmember 2000? They literally opposed a recount. How does any fair and reasonable person oppose a recount when things are so close? They are commonplace in australia and in WA, the recount forced a re-election. Nobody calls foul.

We might not like it but we accept that democracy is about votes counting and in this case, actually being counted.

The yanks needs a federal election system out of the grasp of states and various parties. In the AEC you cannot be involved in counting or taking votes if you are a member of a political party. In the USA, political parties virtually control the voting process!



We need to get rid of democracy.

Why so ?

Because it seems that democracy just doesn't work, to the satisfaction of those who it is meant to serve.



Hmmmm.

After we get rid of democracy, what can/should we replace it with ?             :)

Hmmmm.



QUESTION;
Looking 1/ around the world,       and 2/ looking across the history of mankind,
.....when and where have men [and women,    ...nod to Monty Python] been governed most fairly, and most efficiently ?


Lets adopt that model!

/sarc off


Title: Re: Trump = 306, hillary = 232
Post by Yadda on Nov 25th, 2016 at 12:49pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 12:02pm:

We need to get rid of democracy.


Because........democracy just doesn't work......




The efficacy and the benefits [peace, justice, prosperity] for a people,      of democracy [in determining governance of a society], imo, will always be thwarted and undermined where a [societal] environment of general lawlessness is tolerated and widely accepted.

Where, the term 'lawlessness' = = little regard for the law, wherever/whenever the laws of the society have application to ourselves.



e.g.
There is no point or purpose in making a covenant with a person who is a known covenant-breaker      [....in a situation where there is no 'adequate' penalty against a covenant-breaker].

A     covenant-breaker     is a worthless person.




.




Among a people generally corrupt, liberty cannot long exist.
- Edmund Burke


None can love freedom so heartily, but good men; the rest have not freedom, but licence.      
- John Hamilton


The best way to convince a fool he is wrong is to let him have his way.
- Josh Billings



".....lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God."

2 Timothy 3:1
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;


Proverbs 28:4
They that forsake the law praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them.
5  Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.



Title: Re: Trump = 306, hillary = 232
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 25th, 2016 at 2:38pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 12:02pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 10:46am:

issuevoter wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 9:00am:
The election is rigged! No, Donald, you are only saying that because you think you will loose.
The election was rigged! No, Democrats, you are only saying that because you lost.


The irony about Trump claiming it was rigged is that the majority of legislative attempts to disenfranchise subgroups of voters comes from the REpublicans. REmember 2000? They literally opposed a recount. How does any fair and reasonable person oppose a recount when things are so close? They are commonplace in australia and in WA, the recount forced a re-election. Nobody calls foul.

We might not like it but we accept that democracy is about votes counting and in this case, actually being counted.

The yanks needs a federal election system out of the grasp of states and various parties. In the AEC you cannot be involved in counting or taking votes if you are a member of a political party. In the USA, political parties virtually control the voting process!



We need to get rid of democracy.

Why so ?

Because it seems that democracy just doesn't work, to the satisfaction of those who it is meant to serve.



Hmmmm.

After we get rid of democracy, what can/should we replace it with ?             :)

Hmmmm.



QUESTION;
Looking 1/ around the world,       and 2/ looking across the history of mankind,
.....when and where have men [and women,    ...nod to Monty Python] been governed most fairly, and most efficiently ?


Lets adopt that model!

/sarc off



Have you ever considered making shorter posts with far less white space? If so, people might actually read them. Most people dont.

Title: Re: Trump = 306, hillary = 232
Post by Yadda on Nov 25th, 2016 at 9:32pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 2:38pm:

Have you ever considered making shorter posts with far less white space?

If so, people might actually read them.

Most people dont.



longweekend,

You should probably ignore all of my posts.



And perhaps instead, you could pursue and read the posts of ppl like Unforgiven, and Karnal.

Judging by your attitude to what i have written, i would say that you could probably become a lot more informed about the world in which we live,              ...by reading the posts of ppl like Unforgiven and Karnal.

They have their fingers on the pulse.



Whereas my posts are way, way too long, and very inappropriately formatted, for people like yourself.



Title: Re: Trump = 306, hillary = 232
Post by Frank on Nov 25th, 2016 at 9:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 6:51am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 6:18am:
but whats all of this talk about Killary still being able to win the election??? . 


The Electoral College don't meet until December 19.

That's when the vote that really matters take place.

It's very unlikely that they'll give the election to Clinton, however, it is a possibility (albeit a very slim one).



"...comfortably".




Title: Re: Trump = 306, hillary = 232
Post by bogarde73 on Nov 26th, 2016 at 8:51am

Marla wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 6:00am:
Why reply to Sprinty's spam?


Yeah I'm with you girl. Let's not have news or opinion or comment that annoys us.  It's bound to be fake news anyway. No platform it says I.


Title: Re: Trump = 306, hillary = 232
Post by Marla on Nov 26th, 2016 at 9:03am
Spam is not opinion.

Title: Re: Trump = 306, hillary = 232
Post by cods on Nov 26th, 2016 at 9:14am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 6:51am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 6:18am:
but whats all of this talk about Killary still being able to win the election??? . 


The Electoral College don't meet until December 19.

That's when the vote that really matters take place.

It's very unlikely that they'll give the election to Clinton, however, it is a possibility (albeit a very slim one).




just supposing she did get it...wouldnt that create the biggest court case in history???

such a lot has already been set in motion..I cannot believe this would even remotely happen..

dream on.

Title: Re: Trump = 306, hillary = 232
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 26th, 2016 at 10:00am

cods wrote on Nov 26th, 2016 at 9:14am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 6:51am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 6:18am:
but whats all of this talk about Killary still being able to win the election??? . 


The Electoral College don't meet until December 19.

That's when the vote that really matters take place.

It's very unlikely that they'll give the election to Clinton, however, it is a possibility (albeit a very slim one).




just supposing she did get it...wouldnt that create the biggest court case in history???

such a lot has already been set in motion..I cannot believe this would even remotely happen..

dream on.



No, there would be no court case.

It would be completely legitimate.

However, as I said, there's only a very slim chance of it happening.

I'd say next to none, in fact.

However, the possibility does exist, and it would be perfectly legal and constitutional.

Personally, my preference is to see Trump impeached, and subsequently jailed, and for Pence to take over as President.



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