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Message started by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 8:34am

Title: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 8:34am


President-elect Donald Trump could be impeached over his hotel soiree with foreign diplomats, legal experts say

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:04am


"A Harvard Law professor says President-elect Donald Trump could be impeached the moment he takes office over comments made to foreign diplomats.

"During a gathering at his new, spare-no-expense hotel in Washington DC, Mr Trump wined and dined visiting officials in the opulence of the hotel’s Lincoln Library, a junior ballroom with 16-foot ceilings and velvet drapes.

"Ethical concerns were raised after a number of delegates admitted they would be tempted to stay at the hotel when visiting the US capital, in a bid to curry favour with the President."

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by aquascoot on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:09am
The alpha male is indifferent to the bleatings of the beta male.
And they dont come any more beta, then a professor from harvard.

The alpha male donald is like a mighty US aircraft carrier moving full steam ahead.
The harvard professor is like a tiny sardine bumping into his thick, strong and powerful steel plated hull.
he is indifferent
It does not even register on his radar.

Its actually one of the characteristics of the 'superior man".

The superior man has a much larger "circle of concerns".
he is not concerned that an inferior man considers him a "poo poo head"    ;) ;)



Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:10am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:09am:
The superior man has a much larger "circle of concerns".


The orange douche bag will be enlarging his "circle" when he goes to prison.

Or, someone will enlarge it for him.


Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Agnes on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:16am
The word Trump and impeached has me very excited.. if not this time then down the track..surely ithis does not bode well for the future does it. He is the original crooked little man after all is he not ?

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Agnes on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:19am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:09am:
The alpha male is indifferent to the bleatings of the beta male.
And they dont come any more beta, then a professor from harvard.

The alpha male donald is like a mighty US aircraft carrier moving full steam ahead.
The harvard professor is like a tiny sardine bumping into his thick, strong and powerful steel plated hull.
he is indifferent
It does not even register on his radar.

Its actually one of the characteristics of the 'superior man".

The superior man has a much larger "circle of concerns".
he is not concerned that an inferior man considers him a "poo poo head"    ;) ;)


He is not above the law and many powerful men think they are..that is the trouble.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by it_is_the_light on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:30am

Agnes wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:16am:
The word Trump and impeached has me very excited.. if not this time then down the track..surely ithis does not bode well for the future does it. He is the original crooked little man after all is he not ?


many blessings marla

here is a nice track ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxXfHxceMg4

Donald Trump - Never Come Down (3 HOURS LONG )

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Unforgiven on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:41am
Donald Trump has sticky fingers and he won't be able to resist turning a buck from his presidency.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:42am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 8:34am:
President-elect Donald Trump could be impeached over his hotel soiree with foreign diplomats, legal experts say
Oh dear. Pecca putting his foot in his mouth again.  ::)

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:46am


"But a more dramatic conclusion could be in order, with legal experts backing the possibility that the hotelier could face impeachment when he becomes President in January."

:)

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:52am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:46am:
"But a more dramatic conclusion could be in order, with legal experts backing the possibility that the hotelier could face impeachment when he becomes President in January."

:)
So a president can't have a company outside of politics because he could use his job to further his business????? Name me a politician in modern times who doesn't have businesses outside of politics????? What rubbish. You lefties are losing it. :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:54am


"Richard Painter, a University of Minnesota law professor who served as chief ethics counsel to President George W Bush, believes that Trump breached the US Constitution by schmoozing with diplomats at his swanky hotel."

:)

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Unforgiven on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:02am

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:52am:
... Name me a politician in modern times who doesn't have businesses outside of politics,,,


Obama.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by aquascoot on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:06am

Agnes wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:19am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:09am:
The alpha male is indifferent to the bleatings of the beta male.
And they dont come any more beta, then a professor from harvard.

The alpha male donald is like a mighty US aircraft carrier moving full steam ahead.
The harvard professor is like a tiny sardine bumping into his thick, strong and powerful steel plated hull.
he is indifferent
It does not even register on his radar.

Its actually one of the characteristics of the 'superior man".

The superior man has a much larger "circle of concerns".
he is not concerned that an inferior man considers him a "poo poo head"    ;) ;)


He is not above the law and many powerful men think they are..that is the trouble.


He is the law baby.
Theres a new sheriff in town.
The prof from Harvard better get back to the lunch room and have a bitch session with the other chodes

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:08am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:06am:

Agnes wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:19am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:09am:
The alpha male is indifferent to the bleatings of the beta male.
And they dont come any more beta, then a professor from harvard.

The alpha male donald is like a mighty US aircraft carrier moving full steam ahead.
The harvard professor is like a tiny sardine bumping into his thick, strong and powerful steel plated hull.
he is indifferent
It does not even register on his radar.

Its actually one of the characteristics of the 'superior man".

The superior man has a much larger "circle of concerns".
he is not concerned that an inferior man considers him a "poo poo head"    ;) ;)


He is not above the law and many powerful men think they are..that is the trouble.


He is the law baby.



Oh no he ain't.



Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:11am

Unforgiven wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:02am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:52am:
... Name me a politician in modern times who doesn't have businesses outside of politics,,,


Obama.

Obama's top 10 stocks

According to the latest disclosure from the White House, President Obama is a fan of index-fund investing. See the stocks in his main holding.
 


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- When it comes to policy, President Obama is moving like lightning. But when it comes to his investments, he's playing it cool.

Obama holds the bulk of his investing assets in U.S. Treasury bonds, with a range of between $1 million and more than $5 million, according to a disclosure of personal financial interests released Friday.

He also has between $101,000 and $265,000 in two checking accounts.

To save for his kids' college tuition, he has between $100,000 and $200,000 in two 529 savings plans from Bright Directions: One for children up to 8 years old and one for those between 9 and 12.

The vast majority of his mutual fund holdings are in the Vanguard FTSE Social Index fund (VFTSX), with a range of between $115,000 and $250,000.

According to the Vanguard site, the fund consists of mostly U.S. large and mid-sized companies that meet certain social and environmental criteria. The index tracks the performance of the FTSE4Good US Select.

The fund's Top 10 holdings, according to the Vanguard site are:
1.JP Morgan Chase (JPM, Fortune 500)
2.Apple (AAPL, Fortune 500)
3.Google (GOOG, Fortune 500)
4.Intel (INTC, Fortune 500)
5.Qualcomm (QCOM, Fortune 500)
6.McDonald's (MCD, Fortune 500)
7.Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500)
8.Amgen (AMGN, Fortune 500)
9.CVS Caremark (CVS, Fortune 500)
10.Gilead (GILD, Fortune 500)
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First Published: May 15, 2009: 6:11 PM ET

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Belgarion on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:22am
All this anti-Trump desperation is so pathetic. Harden up snowflakes, accept that the people rejected your choice and work on putting up reasoned arguments to take to the next election, instead of this juvenile dummy spitting.  ::)

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:33am

Belgarion wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:22am:
accept that the people rejected your choice


Clinton won the popular vote, thus, the people's choice for President was Clinton.

It was the Electoral College that chose Trump, not the people.

America didn't get the President they wanted.

These are the facts.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:34am

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:11am:

Unforgiven wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:02am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:52am:
... Name me a politician in modern times who doesn't have businesses outside of politics,,,


Obama.

Obama's top 10 stocks

According to the latest disclosure from the White House, President Obama is a fan of index-fund investing. See the stocks in his main holding.
 


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- When it comes to policy, President Obama is moving like lightning. But when it comes to his investments, he's playing it cool.

Obama holds the bulk of his investing assets in U.S. Treasury bonds, with a range of between $1 million and more than $5 million, according to a disclosure of personal financial interests released Friday.

He also has between $101,000 and $265,000 in two checking accounts.

To save for his kids' college tuition, he has between $100,000 and $200,000 in two 529 savings plans from Bright Directions: One for children up to 8 years old and one for those between 9 and 12.

The vast majority of his mutual fund holdings are in the Vanguard FTSE Social Index fund (VFTSX), with a range of between $115,000 and $250,000.

According to the Vanguard site, the fund consists of mostly U.S. large and mid-sized companies that meet certain social and environmental criteria. The index tracks the performance of the FTSE4Good US Select.

The fund's Top 10 holdings, according to the Vanguard site are:
1.JP Morgan Chase (JPM, Fortune 500)
2.Apple (AAPL, Fortune 500)
3.Google (GOOG, Fortune 500)
4.Intel (INTC, Fortune 500)
5.Qualcomm (QCOM, Fortune 500)
6.McDonald's (MCD, Fortune 500)
7.Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500)
8.Amgen (AMGN, Fortune 500)
9.CVS Caremark (CVS, Fortune 500)
10.Gilead (GILD, Fortune 500)
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First Published: May 15, 2009: 6:11 PM ET



Stocks and business.

Do you know the difference?


Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:36am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:34am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:11am:

Unforgiven wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:02am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:52am:
... Name me a politician in modern times who doesn't have businesses outside of politics,,,


Obama.

Obama's top 10 stocks

According to the latest disclosure from the White House, President Obama is a fan of index-fund investing. See the stocks in his main holding.
 


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- When it comes to policy, President Obama is moving like lightning. But when it comes to his investments, he's playing it cool.

Obama holds the bulk of his investing assets in U.S. Treasury bonds, with a range of between $1 million and more than $5 million, according to a disclosure of personal financial interests released Friday.

He also has between $101,000 and $265,000 in two checking accounts.

To save for his kids' college tuition, he has between $100,000 and $200,000 in two 529 savings plans from Bright Directions: One for children up to 8 years old and one for those between 9 and 12.

The vast majority of his mutual fund holdings are in the Vanguard FTSE Social Index fund (VFTSX), with a range of between $115,000 and $250,000.

According to the Vanguard site, the fund consists of mostly U.S. large and mid-sized companies that meet certain social and environmental criteria. The index tracks the performance of the FTSE4Good US Select.

The fund's Top 10 holdings, according to the Vanguard site are:
1.JP Morgan Chase (JPM, Fortune 500)
2.Apple (AAPL, Fortune 500)
3.Google (GOOG, Fortune 500)
4.Intel (INTC, Fortune 500)
5.Qualcomm (QCOM, Fortune 500)
6.McDonald's (MCD, Fortune 500)
7.Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500)
8.Amgen (AMGN, Fortune 500)
9.CVS Caremark (CVS, Fortune 500)
10.Gilead (GILD, Fortune 500)
To top of page
First Published: May 15, 2009: 6:11 PM ET



Stocks and business.

Do you know the difference?
Interests in businesses. Same thing to me. Obama has interests all over the place.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Marla on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:37am
Even if Trump does become impeached, I wouldn't count it as a blessing.  That would leave Pence in power who has been known to have some of the most bizarre views of the Christian fundamentalist/Tea Party right. He for the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq under the Bush administration’s bullshit “war on terror." He also voted for every attack on democratic rights and the expansion of NSA and CIA surveillance powers.

Pence has been known to gut social spending for such programs as public education while publicly stating he is a strong opponent of abortion and gay rights. This Indiana idiot congressman was best known back in 2005 when he claimed Hurricane Katrina had cleared the way for “free market” solutions in New Orleans and the general Gulf Coast.

Actually, Pence is best known for signing the Religious Freedom Restoration Act which gave full reign to individuals and companies to discriminate based on their bullshit “religious beliefs.” He is also responsible for Advance America which is one whacky ultra-right Christian sect, who claim Pence's law means “Christian bakers, florists and photographers should not be punished for refusing to participate in a homosexual marriage.”

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:38am

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:36am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:34am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:11am:

Unforgiven wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:02am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:52am:
... Name me a politician in modern times who doesn't have businesses outside of politics,,,


Obama.

Obama's top 10 stocks

According to the latest disclosure from the White House, President Obama is a fan of index-fund investing. See the stocks in his main holding.
 


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- When it comes to policy, President Obama is moving like lightning. But when it comes to his investments, he's playing it cool.

Obama holds the bulk of his investing assets in U.S. Treasury bonds, with a range of between $1 million and more than $5 million, according to a disclosure of personal financial interests released Friday.

He also has between $101,000 and $265,000 in two checking accounts.

To save for his kids' college tuition, he has between $100,000 and $200,000 in two 529 savings plans from Bright Directions: One for children up to 8 years old and one for those between 9 and 12.

The vast majority of his mutual fund holdings are in the Vanguard FTSE Social Index fund (VFTSX), with a range of between $115,000 and $250,000.

According to the Vanguard site, the fund consists of mostly U.S. large and mid-sized companies that meet certain social and environmental criteria. The index tracks the performance of the FTSE4Good US Select.

The fund's Top 10 holdings, according to the Vanguard site are:
1.JP Morgan Chase (JPM, Fortune 500)
2.Apple (AAPL, Fortune 500)
3.Google (GOOG, Fortune 500)
4.Intel (INTC, Fortune 500)
5.Qualcomm (QCOM, Fortune 500)
6.McDonald's (MCD, Fortune 500)
7.Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500)
8.Amgen (AMGN, Fortune 500)
9.CVS Caremark (CVS, Fortune 500)
10.Gilead (GILD, Fortune 500)
To top of page
First Published: May 15, 2009: 6:11 PM ET



Stocks and business.

Do you know the difference?
Interests in businesses. Same thing to me. Obama has interests all over the place.


Put the goal posts back where they were, Homo.

You said: "Name me a politician in modern times who doesn't have businesses outside of politics".


Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:40am

Marla wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:37am:
Even if Trump does become impeached, I wouldn't count it as a blessing.  That would leave Pence in power who has been known to have some of the most bizarre views of the Christian fundamentalist/Tea Party right. He for the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq under the Bush administration’s bullshit “war on terror." He also voted for every attack on democratic rights and the expansion of NSA and CIA surveillance powers.

Pence has been known to gut social spending for such programs as public education while publicly stating he is a strong opponent of abortion and gay rights. This Indiana idiot congressman was best known back in 2005 when he claimed Hurricane Katrina had cleared the way for “free market” solutions in New Orleans and the general Gulf Coast.

Actually, Pence is best known for signing the Religious Freedom Restoration Act which gave full reign to individuals and companies to discriminate based on their bullshit “religious beliefs.” He is also responsible for Advance America which is one whacky ultra-right Christian sect, who claim Pence's law means “Christian bakers, florists and photographers should not be punished for refusing to participate in a homosexual marriage.”



All of that is true but it doesn't matter, as long as Trump doesn't get his own way and is made to look a fool.

The man pig needs to be taken down a few pegs, and he needs to face the courts for his alleged crimes.

Pence can be dealt with later.


Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:42am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:38am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:36am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:34am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:11am:

Unforgiven wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:02am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:52am:
... Name me a politician in modern times who doesn't have businesses outside of politics,,,


Obama.

Obama's top 10 stocks

According to the latest disclosure from the White House, President Obama is a fan of index-fund investing. See the stocks in his main holding.
 


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- When it comes to policy, President Obama is moving like lightning. But when it comes to his investments, he's playing it cool.

Obama holds the bulk of his investing assets in U.S. Treasury bonds, with a range of between $1 million and more than $5 million, according to a disclosure of personal financial interests released Friday.

He also has between $101,000 and $265,000 in two checking accounts.

To save for his kids' college tuition, he has between $100,000 and $200,000 in two 529 savings plans from Bright Directions: One for children up to 8 years old and one for those between 9 and 12.

The vast majority of his mutual fund holdings are in the Vanguard FTSE Social Index fund (VFTSX), with a range of between $115,000 and $250,000.

According to the Vanguard site, the fund consists of mostly U.S. large and mid-sized companies that meet certain social and environmental criteria. The index tracks the performance of the FTSE4Good US Select.

The fund's Top 10 holdings, according to the Vanguard site are:
1.JP Morgan Chase (JPM, Fortune 500)
2.Apple (AAPL, Fortune 500)
3.Google (GOOG, Fortune 500)
4.Intel (INTC, Fortune 500)
5.Qualcomm (QCOM, Fortune 500)
6.McDonald's (MCD, Fortune 500)
7.Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500)
8.Amgen (AMGN, Fortune 500)
9.CVS Caremark (CVS, Fortune 500)
10.Gilead (GILD, Fortune 500)
To top of page
First Published: May 15, 2009: 6:11 PM ET



Stocks and business.

Do you know the difference?
Interests in businesses. Same thing to me. Obama has interests all over the place.


Put the goal posts back where they were, Homo.

You said: "Name me a politician in modern times who doesn't have businesses outside of politics".
The shareholders of America have never had it so good. Obviously Obama was looking after his own ass. Scumbag!!

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:43am

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:42am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:38am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:36am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:34am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:11am:

Unforgiven wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:02am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:52am:
... Name me a politician in modern times who doesn't have businesses outside of politics,,,


Obama.

Obama's top 10 stocks

According to the latest disclosure from the White House, President Obama is a fan of index-fund investing. See the stocks in his main holding.
 


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- When it comes to policy, President Obama is moving like lightning. But when it comes to his investments, he's playing it cool.

Obama holds the bulk of his investing assets in U.S. Treasury bonds, with a range of between $1 million and more than $5 million, according to a disclosure of personal financial interests released Friday.

He also has between $101,000 and $265,000 in two checking accounts.

To save for his kids' college tuition, he has between $100,000 and $200,000 in two 529 savings plans from Bright Directions: One for children up to 8 years old and one for those between 9 and 12.

The vast majority of his mutual fund holdings are in the Vanguard FTSE Social Index fund (VFTSX), with a range of between $115,000 and $250,000.

According to the Vanguard site, the fund consists of mostly U.S. large and mid-sized companies that meet certain social and environmental criteria. The index tracks the performance of the FTSE4Good US Select.

The fund's Top 10 holdings, according to the Vanguard site are:
1.JP Morgan Chase (JPM, Fortune 500)
2.Apple (AAPL, Fortune 500)
3.Google (GOOG, Fortune 500)
4.Intel (INTC, Fortune 500)
5.Qualcomm (QCOM, Fortune 500)
6.McDonald's (MCD, Fortune 500)
7.Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500)
8.Amgen (AMGN, Fortune 500)
9.CVS Caremark (CVS, Fortune 500)
10.Gilead (GILD, Fortune 500)
To top of page
First Published: May 15, 2009: 6:11 PM ET



Stocks and business.

Do you know the difference?
Interests in businesses. Same thing to me. Obama has interests all over the place.


Put the goal posts back where they were, Homo.

You said: "Name me a politician in modern times who doesn't have businesses outside of politics".
The shareholders of America have never had it so good. Obviously Obama was looking after his own ass. Scumbag!!



White flag accepted.


Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:44am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:40am:

Marla wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:37am:
Even if Trump does become impeached, I wouldn't count it as a blessing.  That would leave Pence in power who has been known to have some of the most bizarre views of the Christian fundamentalist/Tea Party right. He for the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq under the Bush administration’s bullshit “war on terror." He also voted for every attack on democratic rights and the expansion of NSA and CIA surveillance powers.

Pence has been known to gut social spending for such programs as public education while publicly stating he is a strong opponent of abortion and gay rights. This Indiana idiot congressman was best known back in 2005 when he claimed Hurricane Katrina had cleared the way for “free market” solutions in New Orleans and the general Gulf Coast.

Actually, Pence is best known for signing the Religious Freedom Restoration Act which gave full reign to individuals and companies to discriminate based on their bullshit “religious beliefs.” He is also responsible for Advance America which is one whacky ultra-right Christian sect, who claim Pence's law means “Christian bakers, florists and photographers should not be punished for refusing to participate in a homosexual marriage.”



All of that is true but it doesn't matter, as long as Trump doesn't get his own way and is made to look a fool.

The man pig needs to be taken down a few pegs, and he needs to face the courts for his alleged crimes.

Pence can be dealt with later.
You do know Trump is going to be president for 4  years Pecca. Maybe even more. All your whinging and crying isn't going to change that. You have to come to terms with it. ;D

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Agnes on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:45am

Unforgiven wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:41am:
Donald Trump has sticky fingers and he won't be able to resist turning a buck from his presidency.

He will milk it for all he is worth, so will his kids..

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:47am

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:44am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:40am:

Marla wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:37am:
Even if Trump does become impeached, I wouldn't count it as a blessing.  That would leave Pence in power who has been known to have some of the most bizarre views of the Christian fundamentalist/Tea Party right. He for the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq under the Bush administration’s bullshit “war on terror." He also voted for every attack on democratic rights and the expansion of NSA and CIA surveillance powers.

Pence has been known to gut social spending for such programs as public education while publicly stating he is a strong opponent of abortion and gay rights. This Indiana idiot congressman was best known back in 2005 when he claimed Hurricane Katrina had cleared the way for “free market” solutions in New Orleans and the general Gulf Coast.

Actually, Pence is best known for signing the Religious Freedom Restoration Act which gave full reign to individuals and companies to discriminate based on their bullshit “religious beliefs.” He is also responsible for Advance America which is one whacky ultra-right Christian sect, who claim Pence's law means “Christian bakers, florists and photographers should not be punished for refusing to participate in a homosexual marriage.”



All of that is true but it doesn't matter, as long as Trump doesn't get his own way and is made to look a fool.

The man pig needs to be taken down a few pegs, and he needs to face the courts for his alleged crimes.

Pence can be dealt with later.
You do know Trump is going to be president for 4  years Pecca.


No, I don't know that at all.

Moreover, many experts are predicting he'll only last a maximum of two years.


Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:48am

Marin Katusa
Chief Energy Investment Strategist   


Yes, President Obama is a multimillionaire.

Being the president of the United States has done well for his portfolio, as you will see below. But that was expected when he was elected president.

It’s easy to assume that the leader of the most powerful country in the world has at his disposal the best money managers in the business.

So let’s see where the president invests his money, and why it’s important to you, the investor.

Today, I will share with all my readers the specifics of the US president’s personal portfolio.

In 2013, President Obama earned a presidential salary of $400,000, plus a $50,000 annual expense account, a $100,000 nontaxable travel account, and $19,000 for entertainment.

Those amounts are exact and have been fixed since 2001 for all presidents.

US federal financial disclosure forms don’t give the exact amounts; instead they give a range, but my longtime readers know my background is complex mathematics, and this is the type of research I do for fun, so I’ll break it down for you.

Before I jump into the details, here’s why I’m doing this. I was recently invited to a lunch with Presidents Bush and Clinton that’s going to take place in the fall, and I wondered what I may have in common with them—in case casual conversation occurred. I was told President Obama might be a last-minute addition.

Well, like Bush, I like oil and uranium. Like Clinton, I’m a vegan. But Obama… that was a tough one—as I have nothing in common with the man.

So, rather than having an unpleasant experience talking about the government’s failed foreign policy if by chance I do speak with him, I thought it would be more productive to do some research on the president’s portfolio—so if he asked, I’d be informed enough to talk about it.

So just before checking out of my wonderful hotel in Barcelona (on a side note, if you ever have the chance to visit Barcelona, make the effort to visit the Basilica de la Sagrada Família, built by famous architect Antoni Gaudí—regardless of your religious beliefs, it’s an architectural wonder), I downloaded the most recent Executive Branch Personnel Public Financial Disclosure Report and during my nine-hour flight back home, I went painstakingly through each Excel cell of the president’s portfolio—and I’m sure you’ll be happy I did.

Results:

President Obama’s investment portfolio is worth up to $7,145,000. As I said earlier, the exact number is not given, but I worked out the range.

In 2013, the president earned up to $334,010 from dividends from his investments and royalties from his book deals. Just to put things in perspective, that amount is up to 83.5% of his annual presidential salary.

In 2013, he earned somewhere between 2.35% and 2.5% overall in dividends from his investment portfolio. (That means President Obama is not a subscriber to the Casey Energy Report, as our portfolio is beating his portfolio’s performance by over 600% year to date.

But let’s get into the juicy details—such as, who manages the president’s money?

The average American (AKA Obama voter) may believe Obama fights for them against the big banks. Think again.

JPMorgan, the biggest bank of all, manages some of the president’s money, as does Vanguard. Both can easily be classified as too big to fail, and that could be why President Obama has his money with them.

Where does he put most of his net worth?

US Treasury notes, where he has up to $5 million, and US Treasury bills, where he has up to $500,000. Well, those yield less than 1%.

This is a perfect segue into why President Obama clearly has no comprehension of basic finance and a truly poor economic understanding.

Obama has a mortgage on his residence in Illinois. Again, the specific number isn’t stated, but the mortgage is somewhere between $500,000 and $1 million, at an interest rate of 5.625%. The incurred date of the mortgage was 2005.

Let’s think about this for a second: President Obama is paying 5.625% on his mortgage annually.

He could easily pay off that mortgage, but he would rather pay a 5.625% mortgage rate to the banks and collect less than 1% on his Treasury bills. Awful.

A supporter of Obama would say that there must be a reason, and I agree. But the real reason is not a tax advantage or portfolio planning—it’s that President Obama doesn’t understand basic mathematics.

Now, if the Treasuries were paying him much more than his mortgage, I would understand the logic behind his decision, but that is obviously not the case.

Basic financial prudence dictates that you should always pay off your debts when you can, especially when the debts are costing you more than what you’re earning on your core investments. But it’s clear to me that President Obama runs his personal finances as poorly as he does the nation’s.

However, as I said before, he has done well for himself by being president. In 2013, he earned up to $165,000 from royalties from his books (I wonder if he actually wrote them, but that is another subject entirely).

Well, at least we know he won’t be writing any financial-planning books anytime soon.

The Casey Energy team routinely follows all the investments of the state and federal politicians in the US and Canada to keep our eyes on where the people making the policies have their money. Trust me, it’s important to know where the politicians put their own money.


Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Belgarion on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:49am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:33am:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:22am:
accept that the people rejected your choice


Clinton won the popular vote, thus, the people's choice for President was Clinton.

It was the Electoral College that chose Trump, not the people.

America didn't get the President they wanted.

These are the facts.


And thus my point is proven...... ::)

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:50am

Belgarion wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:33am:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:22am:
accept that the people rejected your choice


Clinton won the popular vote, thus, the people's choice for President was Clinton.

It was the Electoral College that chose Trump, not the people.

America didn't get the President they wanted.

These are the facts.


And thus my point is proven......



You were wrong.


Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:50am

Belgarion wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:33am:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:22am:
accept that the people rejected your choice


Clinton won the popular vote, thus, the people's choice for President was Clinton.

It was the Electoral College that chose Trump, not the people.

America didn't get the President they wanted.

These are the facts.


And thus my point is proven......



You were wrong.

Trump was rejected by the people.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Agnes on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:56am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:50am:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:33am:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:22am:
accept that the people rejected your choice


Clinton won the popular vote, thus, the people's choice for President was Clinton.

It was the Electoral College that chose Trump, not the people.

America didn't get the President they wanted.

These are the facts.


And thus my point is proven......



You were wrong.

Trump was rejected by the people.

By well in excess of over 2 million votes..

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Belgarion on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:58am
Greggys ignorance I can understand, but Agnes, you are an American, don't you understand how your system works and the role of the Electoral College?

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:59am
I can't wait until he gets sworn in. I'm counting down the days. Then he can get on to building the wall. Excellent!!!! :)

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Marla on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:08am
Hope he brought his Legos.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Aussie on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:08am

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:59am:
I can't wait until he gets sworn in. I'm counting down the days. Then he can get on to building the wall. Excellent!!!! :)


Wall = fence, now.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Marla on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:10am

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:44am:
You do know Trump is going to be president for 4 years Pecca. Maybe even more. All your whinging and crying isn't going to change that. You have to come to terms with it. ;D



Trump will not go full-term. America will abort him.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:10am

Belgarion wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:58am:
Greggys ignorance I can understand, but Agnes, you are an American, don't you understand how your system works and the role of the Electoral College?


The people did not want Trump for President - they wanted Clinton.

That's why she received more direct votes.

Trump is President because of the Electoral College system, not because of the will of the people.

Americans didn't get the President they voted for.


Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:11am

Marla wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:08am:
Hope he brought his Legos.
Why is it that every other country on earth takes their borders very seriously but if mine and yours try to do it it's a big issue???? Having your border down will only cause future issues. South America is going to waltz on in in and re-colonise your country. You do know that Marla?

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Unforgiven on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:14am
Trump reportedly filed a controversial insurance claim:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/10/24/trump-claimed-17m-in-fake-storm-damages.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl


Quote:
Donald Trump claimed a $17 million insurance payday on his Mar-a-Lago property after a 2005 hurricane. But eyewitnesses told the Associated Press that the Palm Beach property never sustained close to $17 million in damages. "That house has never been seriously damaged," Trump's longtime butler Anthony Senecal told the AP of Mar-a-Lago hurricane history. "I was there for all of them."

Less than three weeks after Mar-a-Lago allegedly sustained $17 million in damages, the entire Trump family converged on the club to attend Donald Trump Jr.'s wedding there. Photos from the event show the estate in good repair. Tim Frank, Palm Beach's planning administrator in 2005, told the AP that his office would have noticed $17 million in construction on the landmark property. "If there were $17 million dollars of damage, we sure as hell would have known about that," Frank said. "I would have known if there was anything in the magnitude of $100,000." Records also reveal that Trump did not file any large-scale construction permits on the property after the hurricane. It would have likely been illegal to conduct major repairs without a permit.

Trump has previously admitted to depositing some of the $17 million payout into his personal bank accounts, saying that his insurance policy did not require him to reinvest in the allegedly damaged property.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:15am

Marla wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:10am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:44am:
You do know Trump is going to be president for 4 years Pecca. Maybe even more. All your whinging and crying isn't going to change that. You have to come to terms with it. ;D



Trump will not go full-term. America will abort him.



Seventy years too late.


Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:16am

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:59am:
I can't wait until he gets sworn in. I'm counting down the days. Then he can get on to building the wall. Excellent!!!! :)

How will it help you here?

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:21am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:16am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:59am:
I can't wait until he gets sworn in. I'm counting down the days. Then he can get on to building the wall. Excellent!!!! :)

How will it help you here?
I can like something . It's not always about what  can be done for you. I like seeing a country looking after it's own people first.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:23am

Marla wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:10am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:44am:
You do know Trump is going to be president for 4 years Pecca. Maybe even more. All your whinging and crying isn't going to change that. You have to come to terms with it. ;D



Trump will not go full-term. America will abort him.

So are you happy to go back to the liars, warmongers and rich family dynasties you had before?

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:30am

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:21am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:16am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:59am:
I can't wait until he gets sworn in. I'm counting down the days. Then he can get on to building the wall. Excellent!!!! :)

How will it help you here?
I like seeing a country looking after it's own people first.

Even if, say, it was to the detriment of Australia?

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Agnes on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:50am

Belgarion wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:58am:
Greggys ignorance I can understand, but Agnes, you are an American, don't you understand how your system works and the role of the Electoral College?

Belgarion I am an Australian..and I have some idea about how it works..but still learning.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:53am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:30am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:21am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:16am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:59am:
I can't wait until he gets sworn in. I'm counting down the days. Then he can get on to building the wall. Excellent!!!! :)

How will it help you here?
I like seeing a country looking after it's own people first.

Even if, say, it was to the detriment of Australia?
I doubt it's going to have a big impact on Australia. Australia has 20% of it's trade with the US. I doubt Trump will destroy this. That's bad for the US.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 12:15pm

Article II of the US Constitution provides that the President “shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanours”.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Marla on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 1:38pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:11am:
Why is it that every other country on earth takes their borders very seriously but if mine and yours try to do it it's a big issue???? Having your border down will only cause future issues. South America is going to waltz on in in and re-colonise your country. You do know that Marla?


You are so blind
https://youtu.be/Xp093J5Jljo

And the second part:

https://youtu.be/krsZ0I2G_WY

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 1:43pm

Marla wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 1:38pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:11am:
Why is it that every other country on earth takes their borders very seriously but if mine and yours try to do it it's a big issue???? Having your border down will only cause future issues. South America is going to waltz on in in and re-colonise your country. You do know that Marla?


You are so blind
https://youtu.be/Xp093J5Jljo

And the second part:

https://youtu.be/krsZ0I2G_WY
It's you that is blind Marla. Your country is starting to fight with itself because it's so fractured.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 1:45pm

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Richdude on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 1:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 12:15pm:
Article II of the US Constitution provides that the President “shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanours”.


I wish you could be removed from Ozpolitic permanently.


Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 1:48pm

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 1:53pm

"Professor who correctly forecast Trump's victory predicts possible impeachment for the president-elect".

"Republicans love control and they would love to see Mike Pence as president because he is predictable and controllable - a down-the-pipe standard conservative Republican."


Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Belgarion on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 2:09pm

Agnes wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:50am:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:58am:
Greggys ignorance I can understand, but Agnes, you are an American, don't you understand how your system works and the role of the Electoral College?

Belgarion I am an Australian..and I have some idea about how it works..but still learning.


Sorry, I thought you were American. Very simply, the electoral college system ensures that large population states can't overwhelm smaller ones with a simple majority. Very much like  how referenda are decided in Australia.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Marla on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 2:48pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 1:43pm:
It's you that is blind Marla. Your country is starting to fight with itself because it's so fractured.



Whatever, Voltaire.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 3:04pm

Belgarion wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 2:09pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:50am:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:58am:
Greggys ignorance I can understand, but Agnes, you are an American, don't you understand how your system works and the role of the Electoral College?

Belgarion I am an Australian..and I have some idea about how it works..but still learning.


Sorry, I thought you were American. Very simply, the electoral college system ensures that large population states can't overwhelm smaller ones with a simple majority. Very much like  how referenda are decided in Australia.


Everybody knows how it works.

The point is, the American people didn't get the President they wanted.

More people who went to the polling booth wanted Hillary as POTUS.

This is an indisputable fact.




Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Belgarion on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 7:59pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 3:04pm:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 2:09pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:50am:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:58am:
Greggys ignorance I can understand, but Agnes, you are an American, don't you understand how your system works and the role of the Electoral College?

Belgarion I am an Australian..and I have some idea about how it works..but still learning.


Sorry, I thought you were American. Very simply, the electoral college system ensures that large population states can't overwhelm smaller ones with a simple majority. Very much like  how referenda are decided in Australia.


Everybody knows how it works.

The point is, the American people didn't get the President they wanted.

More people who went to the polling booth wanted Hillary as POTUS.

This is an indisputable fact.


The indisputable fact is that if Clinton was truly the peoples choice  then they would have got out and voted for her.  However she could not muster enough support to gain a majority of votes in a majority of states.  This indicates that the majority either voted for Trump or did not like Clinton enough to vote at all.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 8:03pm

Belgarion wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 7:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 3:04pm:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 2:09pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 11:50am:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:58am:
Greggys ignorance I can understand, but Agnes, you are an American, don't you understand how your system works and the role of the Electoral College?

Belgarion I am an Australian..and I have some idea about how it works..but still learning.


Sorry, I thought you were American. Very simply, the electoral college system ensures that large population states can't overwhelm smaller ones with a simple majority. Very much like  how referenda are decided in Australia.


Everybody knows how it works.

The point is, the American people didn't get the President they wanted.

More people who went to the polling booth wanted Hillary as POTUS.

This is an indisputable fact.


The indisputable fact is that if Clinton was truly the peoples choice  then they would have got out and voted for her.  However she could not muster enough support to gain a majority of votes in a majority of states.  This indicates that the majority either voted for Trump or did not like Clinton enough to vote at all.



More people voted for Clinton than voted for Trump. This is an indisputable fact. It's not even debatable.

Thus, the American people wanted Clinton as their POTUS.

Because of the Electoral College, though, they ended up with Trump.

America didn't get the President they wanted.



Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by The Mechanic on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 8:10pm

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 8:14pm


This guy doesn't seem to like Trump:



Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by John Smith on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 8:15pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 8:10pm:



is that what trumps left hand is grabbing? I wasn't sure, Thanks.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 8:17pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 8:15pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 8:10pm:



is that what trumps left hand is grabbing? I wasn't sure, Thanks.



I love the look on President Obama's face in that photo.

He's thinking to himself "how the hell did this bloated orange douche bag, accused of raping children, ever get into this building"?


Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Frank on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 8:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:54am:
"Richard Painter, a University of Minnesota law professor who served as chief ethics counsel to President George W Bush, believes that Trump breached the US Constitution by schmoozing with diplomats at his swanky hotel."

:)



;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



"Hillary will win... comfortably."



Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 8:31pm

Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 8:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:54am:
"Richard Painter, a University of Minnesota law professor who served as chief ethics counsel to President George W Bush, believes that Trump breached the US Constitution by schmoozing with diplomats at his swanky hotel."

:)



;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



"Hillary will win... comfortably."



Hillary won the popular vote ... comfortably.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Yadda on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:33am:

Clinton won the popular vote, thus, the people's choice for President was Clinton.

It was the Electoral College that chose Trump, not the people.

America didn't get the President they wanted.

These are the facts.



greggery,

On that basis, maybe Hillary should march into the US Congress and demand that she be inaugurated next January as the POTUS,         .....because 'the numbers' show her winning the majority of the popular vote, and proves that the American people want her as Pres.         ;D         ;D         ;D

That kind of logic [i.e. yours] is absurd, and defies reason.

That is the kind of logic that a petulant teenager would use, to justify his/her insistence that he/she is correct [in the face of a differing reality].




Donald Trump won the electoral contest.

LAWFULLY,       ..and within the rules that applied, at the time of his campaigning.



.



greggery,

Enjoy!

---------- >

I do.     ;D


When People Laughed At The Idea Of Trump Actually Being Elected President! [Compilation]
https://youtu.be/zT0Rjc6jKCg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT0Rjc6jKCg




Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by AiA on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 1:10am
Trump is a thin-skinned, narcissistic Baby-Man who has always had his way. The next four years will be a horror show ...

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Agnes on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 2:41am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 8:17pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 8:15pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 8:10pm:



is that what trumps left hand is grabbing? I wasn't sure, Thanks.



I love the look on President Obama's face in that photo.

He's thinking to himself "how the hell did this bloated orange douche bag, accused of raping children, ever get into this building"?

  I know he looked  truly and deeply disturbed and he couldn't quite believe he was part of the nightmare. Did you see the footage of this.. his disgust was plainly evident, but as always Obama held himself well and congratulated this undeserving mutant with grace as is his way.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by aquascoot on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 5:33am

AiA wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 1:10am:
Trump is a thin-skinned, narcissistic Baby-Man who has always had his way. The next four years will be a horror show ...



always having your own way is the mindset of the leftie intellectual who sits in the library with other leftie intellectuals.
Trump has been out in the business world making deals all his life. These millions of reference experiences and interactions will destroy you if you dont have the social intelligence and emotional intelligence to calibrate and adjust and learn that "very rarely do things go your way".
This is the path to growth and the path to greatness.
Trump has been walking it forever.
he would have a very high degree of mastery.
Good grief, he just won the election!!!.
To say he doesnt have the people skills is like watching Roger Federer win Wimbledon and then commenting that the guy has no idea how to play tennis.

Whatever Trump may be defiecient in, the ability to solve problems and push thru difficulties will not be amongst them

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Marla on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 5:38am

AiA wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 1:10am:
Trump is a thin-skinned, narcissistic Baby-Man who has always had his way. The next four years will be a horror show ...


Roughly 2 years. He won't last that long.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 7:01am

Yadda wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:33am:

Clinton won the popular vote, thus, the people's choice for President was Clinton.

It was the Electoral College that chose Trump, not the people.

America didn't get the President they wanted.

These are the facts.



greggery,

On that basis, maybe Hillary should march into the US Congress and demand that she be inaugurated next January as the POTUS,         .....because 'the numbers' show her winning the majority of the popular vote, and proves that the American people want her as Pres.       

That kind of logic [i.e. yours] is absurd, and defies reason.



"logic"?  Try to focus.

I'm merely stating the facts.

Clinton won the popular vote (fact), thus, the people's choice for President was Clinton (fact).

It was the Electoral College that chose Trump, not the people (fact).

America didn't get the President they wanted (fact).


Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Yadda on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 7:13am

Marla wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 5:38am:

AiA wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 1:10am:
Trump is a thin-skinned, narcissistic Baby-Man who has always had his way. The next four years will be a horror show ...


Roughly 2 years. He won't last that long.




LOL

Yeah, just watch all of these leftist 'prophets' [media pundits] who were certain, that Trump didn't have a snowflakes chance in hell of winning the electoral contest - WHICH HE THEN DID WIN!


---------- >

When People Laughed At The Idea Of Trump Actually Being Elected President! [Compilation]
https://youtu.be/zT0Rjc6jKCg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT0Rjc6jKCg




Marla writes.....

"Roughly 2 years. He won't last that long."

Marla is yet another one of these petulant children, who having been WRONG, ...and WRONG, ...and WRONG,      ...are now still prognosticating on a future which will more 'happily' coincide with her personal worldview.



And people call me 'unhinged' [from reality] !!      hehe


WATCH THE YT !!!!!!!       hehe


In that YT watch Ann Coulter getting 'dumped' upon.

When asked [over 12 months ago] on a talk show, Ann Coulter predicted that Trump had a good chance of winning.

There were howls of laughter from the studio audience.

Yeah, what a 'goose' Ann Coulter turned out to be   -   NOT!



Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Marla on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 7:16am
*watches*

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Yadda on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 7:25am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 7:01am:

Yadda wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:33am:

Clinton won the popular vote, thus, the people's choice for President was Clinton.

It was the Electoral College that chose Trump, not the people.

America didn't get the President they wanted.

These are the facts.



greggery,

On that basis, maybe Hillary should march into the US Congress and demand that she be inaugurated next January as the POTUS,         .....because 'the numbers' show her winning the majority of the popular vote, and proves that the American people want her as Pres.       

That kind of logic [i.e. yours] is absurd, and defies reason.

That is the kind of logic that a petulant teenager would use, to justify his/her insistence that he/she is correct [in the face of a differing reality].




Clinton won the popular vote (fact), thus, the people's choice for President was Clinton (fact).



If that is so, then why isn't Clinton going be inaugurated next January as the POTUS ?


ANSWER;

It is because Donald Trump won the electoral contest.

It is because Donald Trump won LAWFULLY,       ..and within the electoral rules that applied, at the time of his campaigning.



......and Hillary Clinton didn't.



Hillary Clinton lost the electoral contest.




Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by cods on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 7:41am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 8:14pm:
This guy doesn't seem to like Trump:






he looks like one himself.....most child rapists dress like that  >:( >:(

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 9:53am

cods wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 7:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 8:14pm:
This guy doesn't seem to like Trump:






he looks like one himself.....most child rapists dress like that  >:( >:(



Really?

The shirt, or the hat?

In other news:

"Donald Trump won't pursue Hillary Clinton email probe; 'open mind' on climate change".

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 9:56am

Yadda wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 7:25am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 7:01am:

Yadda wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:33am:

Clinton won the popular vote, thus, the people's choice for President was Clinton.

It was the Electoral College that chose Trump, not the people.

America didn't get the President they wanted.

These are the facts.



greggery,

On that basis, maybe Hillary should march into the US Congress and demand that she be inaugurated next January as the POTUS,         .....because 'the numbers' show her winning the majority of the popular vote, and proves that the American people want her as Pres.       

That kind of logic [i.e. yours] is absurd, and defies reason.

That is the kind of logic that a petulant teenager would use, to justify his/her insistence that he/she is correct [in the face of a differing reality].




Clinton won the popular vote (fact), thus, the people's choice for President was Clinton (fact).



If that is so, then why isn't Clinton going be inaugurated next January as the POTUS ?


It's not "if that is so", it's a fact.

And, she isn't being inaugurated because the President is chosen by the Electoral College.

Try to keep up.

The undeniable fact remains, though, that Clinton won the popular vote, thus, the people's choice for President was Clinton.

America did not get the President they wanted.



Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Yadda on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 10:20am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 7:01am:


Clinton won the popular vote (fact), thus, the people's choice for President was Clinton (fact).




In a parallel universe [created by greggery],          .......in January 2018, Hillary Clinton will be inaugurated as POTUS.

ITS TRUE!!!!!!!!!




.




......meanwhile in our universe;

Donald Trump won the recent electoral contest for POTUS.



......and Hillary Clinton didn't.






Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:09am

Yadda wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 10:20am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 7:01am:


Clinton won the popular vote (fact), thus, the people's choice for President was Clinton (fact).




In a parallel universe [created by greggery],          .......in January 2018, Hillary Clinton will be inaugurated as POTUS.

ITS TRUE!!!!!!!!!



No.  She didn't win the Presidential election.

The election was won by Trump (and he'll be inaugurated in 2017, not 2018).

Try to keep up.

However, Clinton won the popular vote, thus, the people's choice for President was Clinton.

America are not getingt the President they wanted.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Belgarion on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:12am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 9:56am:

Yadda wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 7:25am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 7:01am:

Yadda wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:33am:

Clinton won the popular vote, thus, the people's choice for President was Clinton.

It was the Electoral College that chose Trump, not the people.

America didn't get the President they wanted.

These are the facts.



greggery,

On that basis, maybe Hillary should march into the US Congress and demand that she be inaugurated next January as the POTUS,         .....because 'the numbers' show her winning the majority of the popular vote, and proves that the American people want her as Pres.       

That kind of logic [i.e. yours] is absurd, and defies reason.

That is the kind of logic that a petulant teenager would use, to justify his/her insistence that he/she is correct [in the face of a differing reality].




Clinton won the popular vote (fact), thus, the people's choice for President was Clinton (fact).



If that is so, then why isn't Clinton going be inaugurated next January as the POTUS ?


It's not "if that is so", it's a fact.

And, she isn't being inaugurated because the President is chosen by the Electoral College.

Try to keep up.

The undeniable fact remains, though, that Clinton won the popular vote, thus, the people's choice for President was Clinton.

America did not get the President they wanted.


If Americans had wanted Clinton they would have turned out in numbers sufficient to win her enough electoral college votes to become president. They did not. Get used to it, instead if whining about a system that has been in place in its current form for over 100 years.  ::)

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:16am

Belgarion wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 9:56am:

Yadda wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 7:25am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 7:01am:

Yadda wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 10:33am:

Clinton won the popular vote, thus, the people's choice for President was Clinton.

It was the Electoral College that chose Trump, not the people.

America didn't get the President they wanted.

These are the facts.



greggery,

On that basis, maybe Hillary should march into the US Congress and demand that she be inaugurated next January as the POTUS,         .....because 'the numbers' show her winning the majority of the popular vote, and proves that the American people want her as Pres.       

That kind of logic [i.e. yours] is absurd, and defies reason.

That is the kind of logic that a petulant teenager would use, to justify his/her insistence that he/she is correct [in the face of a differing reality].




Clinton won the popular vote (fact), thus, the people's choice for President was Clinton (fact).



If that is so, then why isn't Clinton going be inaugurated next January as the POTUS ?


It's not "if that is so", it's a fact.

And, she isn't being inaugurated because the President is chosen by the Electoral College.

Try to keep up.

The undeniable fact remains, though, that Clinton won the popular vote, thus, the people's choice for President was Clinton.

America did not get the President they wanted.


If Americans had wanted Clinton ...


They did want Clinton.

She won the popular vote.

Thus, America isn't getting the President they wanted.



Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by rabbitoh08 on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:22am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 1:53pm:
"Republicans love control and they would love to see Mike Pence as president because he is predictable and controllable - a down-the-pipe standard conservative Republican."

I think that is a key comment.

Trump is not a politician, and he gives the impression that he could do something really dumb at any minute, as many of his pre-election statements indicate.

He was good enough to fool about 25% of American voters, but I doubt he is good enough to fool the career polititians he will have to work with.  And if even his own party feels that there is a better option there ready to slip right into the job - then he may find he has few friends if something goes a bit pear-shaped.

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:39am

rabbitoh08 wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:22am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 1:53pm:
"Republicans love control and they would love to see Mike Pence as president because he is predictable and controllable - a down-the-pipe standard conservative Republican."

I think that is a key comment.

Trump is not a politician, and he gives the impression that he could do something really dumb at any minute, as many of his pre-election statements indicate.

He was good enough to fool about 25% of American voters, but I doubt he is good enough to fool the career polititians he will have to work with.  And if even his own party feels that there is a better option there ready to slip right into the job - then he may find he has few friends if something goes a bit pear-shaped.



I agree, 100%.

Trump may very well have handed Pence the Presidency, without even knowing it.

He may not be as smart as he thinks he is.


Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by The Mechanic on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:45am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:39am:

rabbitoh08 wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:22am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 1:53pm:
"Republicans love control and they would love to see Mike Pence as president because he is predictable and controllable - a down-the-pipe standard conservative Republican."

I think that is a key comment.

Trump is not a politician, and he gives the impression that he could do something really dumb at any minute, as many of his pre-election statements indicate.

He was good enough to fool about 25% of American voters, but I doubt he is good enough to fool the career polititians he will have to work with.  And if even his own party feels that there is a better option there ready to slip right into the job - then he may find he has few friends if something goes a bit pear-shaped.



I agree, 100%.

Trump may very well have handed Pence the Presidency, without even knowing it.

He may not be as smart as he thinks he is.


well he keeps proving you wrong...

maybe its YOU that is not as smart as you THINK YOU ARE..  ::)

you thought that you were so smart that you put yourself on the line of leaving this forum if Trump won..

just like the other dickhead lefties did in the US..

and like the cowards in the US who didn't stand by their word... you are still here..

your word means nothing

meanwhile.. Trump continues to prove you and other knucklehead lefties wrong..

Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:48am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:45am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:39am:

rabbitoh08 wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:22am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 1:53pm:
"Republicans love control and they would love to see Mike Pence as president because he is predictable and controllable - a down-the-pipe standard conservative Republican."

I think that is a key comment.

Trump is not a politician, and he gives the impression that he could do something really dumb at any minute, as many of his pre-election statements indicate.

He was good enough to fool about 25% of American voters, but I doubt he is good enough to fool the career polititians he will have to work with.  And if even his own party feels that there is a better option there ready to slip right into the job - then he may find he has few friends if something goes a bit pear-shaped.



I agree, 100%.

Trump may very well have handed Pence the Presidency, without even knowing it.

He may not be as smart as he thinks he is.


well he keeps proving you wrong...




Really?

How so?


Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:49am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:45am:
meanwhile.. Trump continues to prove you and other knucklehead lefties wrong..



He's doing no such thing.

We predicted he would back down on every single one of his election campaign promises.

And, he has.


Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Frank on Nov 24th, 2016 at 4:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 8:31pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 8:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:54am:
"Richard Painter, a University of Minnesota law professor who served as chief ethics counsel to President George W Bush, believes that Trump breached the US Constitution by schmoozing with diplomats at his swanky hotel."

:)



;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



"Hillary will win... comfortably."



Hillary won the popular vote ... comfortably.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yeah, like that's what you meant.

She is not going to be prez, ever...... comfortably.



Title: Re: Is it all over for Trump?
Post by Frank on Nov 24th, 2016 at 5:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:49am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:45am:
meanwhile.. Trump continues to prove you and other knucklehead lefties wrong..



He's doing no such thing.

We predicted he would back down on every single one of his election campaign promises.

And, he has.



Really?


He will deport illegal criminals - starting with criminals and working is way down. Big job, preventing more illegals coming in - fence, wall, field force, whatever.
Clinton - she is crushed and humiliated enough waaaaay beyond anyone's expectation. She is finished, completely. No hundred thousand dollar speaking engagement for Hill and Bill any more. They are done like dinner. She is dead, buried, cremated. Trump is magnanimous. 


What else have you got?




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