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Message started by AiA on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:50am

Title: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by AiA on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:50am
There is a demographic in the USA named "the Cultural Creatives" who are highly educated, culturally progressive, live in large cities, often vote Democratic and are JOB CREATORS.

This demographic overwhelmingly voted for Hillary. Trump represents Rural America, the ones who need jobs.  Do you see the problem? The class that creates jobs doesn't like Trump.

Trump is no dummy. His kids are even smarter and, in fact, represent the Cultural Creatives, which is why I think the Trump Kids aren't going to let Daddy alienate the very class of people America needs most.

Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by Amadd on Nov 15th, 2016 at 2:15am
Then who cares?
The vote is for all people of America.. It's not my vote. But I'm sorta glad that Trump got in because I have my reserves about Hilary. She seemed nothing much to me because of her illogical outlook.

Obama woulda poo on him. But if you wanna have a first lady pres. then don't make it a spousal competition.
Any moron woulda beaten Hilary.

Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by Amadd on Nov 15th, 2016 at 2:17am
Blame that one one on the women's movement. they way overrate themselves.

Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by AiA on Nov 15th, 2016 at 3:23am

Amadd wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 2:15am:
Then who cares?
The vote is for all people of America.. It's not my vote. But I'm sorta glad that Trump got in because I have my reserves about Hilary. She seemed nothing much to me because of her illogical outlook.

Obama woulda poo on him. But if you wanna have a first lady pres. then don't make it a spousal competition.
Any nice person woulda beaten Hilary.




Sorry, but I don't understand your semi-incoherent reply that has zero to do with the topic ...

Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by Marla on Nov 15th, 2016 at 3:44am

Amadd wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 2:15am:
Then who cares?
The vote is for all people of America.. It's not my vote. But I'm sorta glad that Trump got in because I have my reserves about Hilary. She seemed nothing much to me because of her illogical outlook.

Obama woulda poo on him. But if you wanna have a first lady pres. then don't make it a spousal competition.
Any nice person woulda beaten Hilary.


Once more in English, please.

Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by Belgarion on Nov 15th, 2016 at 5:11am

AiA wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:50am:
There is a demographic in the USA named "the Cultural Creatives" who are highly educated, culturally progressive, live in large cities, often vote Democratic and are JOB CREATORS.
This demographic overwhelmingly voted for Hillary. Trump represents Rural America, the ones who need jobs.  Do you see the problem? The class that creates jobs doesn't like Trump.

Trump is no dummy. His kids are even smarter and, in fact, represent the Cultural Creatives, which is why I think the Trump Kids aren't going to let Daddy alienate the very class of people America needs most.


Examples?

Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by AiA on Nov 15th, 2016 at 5:13am

Belgarion wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 5:11am:

AiA wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:50am:
There is a demographic in the USA named "the Cultural Creatives" who are highly educated, culturally progressive, live in large cities, often vote Democratic and are JOB CREATORS.
This demographic overwhelmingly voted for Hillary. Trump represents Rural America, the ones who need jobs.  Do you see the problem? The class that creates jobs doesn't like Trump.

Trump is no dummy. His kids are even smarter and, in fact, represent the Cultural Creatives, which is why I think the Trump Kids aren't going to let Daddy alienate the very class of people America needs most.


Examples?


examples of what?

Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by Belgarion on Nov 15th, 2016 at 5:15am

AiA wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 5:13am:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 5:11am:

AiA wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:50am:
There is a demographic in the USA named "the Cultural Creatives" who are highly educated, culturally progressive, live in large cities, often vote Democratic and are JOB CREATORS.
This demographic overwhelmingly voted for Hillary. Trump represents Rural America, the ones who need jobs.  Do you see the problem? The class that creates jobs doesn't like Trump.

Trump is no dummy. His kids are even smarter and, in fact, represent the Cultural Creatives, which is why I think the Trump Kids aren't going to let Daddy alienate the very class of people America needs most.


Examples?


examples of what?


Who these cultural creatives are, the jobs they have created, who they have employed.

Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by AiA on Nov 15th, 2016 at 5:19am

Belgarion wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 5:15am:

AiA wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 5:13am:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 5:11am:

AiA wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:50am:
There is a demographic in the USA named "the Cultural Creatives" who are highly educated, culturally progressive, live in large cities, often vote Democratic and are JOB CREATORS.
This demographic overwhelmingly voted for Hillary. Trump represents Rural America, the ones who need jobs.  Do you see the problem? The class that creates jobs doesn't like Trump.

Trump is no dummy. His kids are even smarter and, in fact, represent the Cultural Creatives, which is why I think the Trump Kids aren't going to let Daddy alienate the very class of people America needs most.


Examples?


examples of what?


Who these cultural creatives are, the jobs they have created, who they have employed.


"cultural creative" is a commonly used term.

Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by Richdude on Nov 15th, 2016 at 5:50am

AiA wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:50am:
There is a demographic in the USA named "the Cultural Creatives" who are highly educated, culturally progressive, live in large cities, often vote Democratic and are JOB CREATORS.

This demographic overwhelmingly voted for Hillary. Trump represents Rural America, the ones who need jobs.  Do you see the problem? The class that creates jobs doesn't like Trump.

Trump is no dummy. His kids are even smarter and, in fact, represent the Cultural Creatives, which is why I think the Trump Kids aren't going to let Daddy alienate the very class of people America needs most.


You really are an endless supply of propaganda! Effective propaganda has to have an element of truth - yours has very little.

Trump has a lovely family - even you would agree! That old saying "you can tell how good a tree is by the fruit it produces" seems apt.

Also the Dow just hit a record high yesterday!

The facts contradict your prejudice - please get another job!


Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by aquascoot on Nov 15th, 2016 at 6:16am
This is true.
This  century will belong to the creators.

And no one does it better then the good old USA .

If you are creative, you have value.
How much value?
The sky is the limit.

Zukkerburg, Steve Jobs, etc etc...this is where america will be made great.

Because whilst australia tears down its tall poppies, America idolises them.

People in australia would look at Trump and react the way they do to Gina Rinehardt....they just ahte on rich dudes and think they all got there by cheating the system.

But americans feel differnetly. They recognise that "what one man can do, we all can do"  "no one is cut from a different cloth".
When they see success, they get inspired and aspirational.
When we see success we just get mad .
(well i dont because i accept that they applied themselves and work their a*ss off and i didnt and i resolve to improve...your average aussie has to go into ego defence...he cant admit to himself he is stuck in mediocre laziness addiction, his ego wont allow it...he hates the rich successful person because that is a lot easier then owning up to his own failings ).

If america ever loses this attitude , it will cease to be.

This is what drives the place...the culture of "individual responsibility" and not hating success.
God bless america
God bless the president of the United States
God bless this higher consciousness and more creative way of approaching life.
Trump is the very essence of "venture capitalism".
he is not some dumbed down civil servant like Hilary or Obama.
He belongs in silicon valley.
Exciting times...unless you are a mediocre scrub

Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 15th, 2016 at 8:10am
All he creates is concrete monstrosities

Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by Culture Warrior on Nov 15th, 2016 at 8:38am

AiA wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 5:19am:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 5:15am:

AiA wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 5:13am:

Belgarion wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 5:11am:

AiA wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:50am:
There is a demographic in the USA named "the Cultural Creatives" who are highly educated, culturally progressive, live in large cities, often vote Democratic and are JOB CREATORS.
This demographic overwhelmingly voted for Hillary. Trump represents Rural America, the ones who need jobs.  Do you see the problem? The class that creates jobs doesn't like Trump.

Trump is no dummy. His kids are even smarter and, in fact, represent the Cultural Creatives, which is why I think the Trump Kids aren't going to let Daddy alienate the very class of people America needs most.


Examples?


examples of what?


Who these cultural creatives are, the jobs they have created, who they have employed.


"cultural creative" is a commonly used term.


You just got nailed.

Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by Culture Warrior on Nov 15th, 2016 at 8:45am

AiA wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:50am:
There is a demographic in the USA named "the Cultural Creatives" who are highly educated, culturally progressive, live in large cities, often vote Democratic and are JOB CREATORS.

This demographic overwhelmingly voted for Hillary. Trump represents Rural America, the ones who need jobs.  Do you see the problem? The class that creates jobs doesn't like Trump.

Trump is no dummy. His kids are even smarter and, in fact, represent the Cultural Creatives, which is why I think the Trump Kids aren't going to let Daddy alienate the very class of people America needs most.


The creative class is different from the social justice warrior, although they may share some political objectives. The creative class, as you indicate, creates things. They will go on creating regardless of who is president. (However, they need assistance from the wealthy in order to sell whatever it is they created). The SJW, in contrast, creates nothing. In fact, it is a destroyer. Its aim is to make the majority loath their culture, their history and themselves. Their ideal is a decrepit, cretinous, self-hating, neurotic, overly-emotional cry baby, who creates nothing.     

Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by Karnal on Nov 15th, 2016 at 11:30am
Oh, I don't know why anyone would want to create things. Trump's going to get all those assembly line jobs back from China. He'll get the home fires burning, you'll see.

We will build a wall. We will make Amerika great again.

It may not happen overnight, leftards, but it will happen.

"Progressives".

Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by Karnal on Nov 15th, 2016 at 11:34am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 8:45am:

AiA wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:50am:
There is a demographic in the USA named "the Cultural Creatives" who are highly educated, culturally progressive, live in large cities, often vote Democratic and are JOB CREATORS.

This demographic overwhelmingly voted for Hillary. Trump represents Rural America, the ones who need jobs.  Do you see the problem? The class that creates jobs doesn't like Trump.

Trump is no dummy. His kids are even smarter and, in fact, represent the Cultural Creatives, which is why I think the Trump Kids aren't going to let Daddy alienate the very class of people America needs most.


The creative class is different from the social justice warrior, although they may share some political objectives. The creative class, as you indicate, creates things. They will go on creating regardless of who is president. (However, they need assistance from the wealthy in order to sell whatever it is they created). The SJW, in contrast, creates nothing. In fact, it is a destroyer. Its aim is to make the majority loath their culture, their history and themselves. Their ideal is a decrepit, cretinous, self-hating, neurotic, overly-emotional cry baby, who creates nothing.     


Domestos to Morning Mist, Domestos to Morning Mist, spillage in C Block, do you read me, over.

Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by Culture Warrior on Nov 16th, 2016 at 10:43am

Melanias purse wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 11:34am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 8:45am:

AiA wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:50am:
There is a demographic in the USA named "the Cultural Creatives" who are highly educated, culturally progressive, live in large cities, often vote Democratic and are JOB CREATORS.

This demographic overwhelmingly voted for Hillary. Trump represents Rural America, the ones who need jobs.  Do you see the problem? The class that creates jobs doesn't like Trump.

Trump is no dummy. His kids are even smarter and, in fact, represent the Cultural Creatives, which is why I think the Trump Kids aren't going to let Daddy alienate the very class of people America needs most.


The creative class is different from the social justice warrior, although they may share some political objectives. The creative class, as you indicate, creates things. They will go on creating regardless of who is president. (However, they need assistance from the wealthy in order to sell whatever it is they created). The SJW, in contrast, creates nothing. In fact, it is a destroyer. Its aim is to make the majority loath their culture, their history and themselves. Their ideal is a decrepit, cretinous, self-hating, neurotic, overly-emotional cry baby, who creates nothing.     


Domestos to Morning Mist, Domestos to Morning Mist, spillage in C Block, do you read me, over.


Look where your neo-Marxist and Foucauldian 'analysis' has gotten you. Nowhere. No matter how many 'critiques' you engage in, you can't create the utopian paradise. Suck it up.

Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by Frank on Nov 16th, 2016 at 4:01pm
Karnal fancies himself as a 'cultured despiser'. As is North.



Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by Karnal on Nov 16th, 2016 at 5:54pm

Frank wrote on Nov 16th, 2016 at 4:01pm:
Karnal fancies himself as a 'cultured despiser'. As is North.


"Progressives".

Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by Dnarever on Nov 16th, 2016 at 6:52pm

AiA wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:50am:
There is a demographic in the USA named "the Cultural Creatives" who are highly educated, culturally progressive, live in large cities, often vote Democratic and are JOB CREATORS.

This demographic overwhelmingly voted for Hillary. Trump represents Rural America, the ones who need jobs.  Do you see the problem? The class that creates jobs doesn't like Trump.

Trump is no dummy. His kids are even smarter and, in fact, represent the Cultural Creatives, which is why I think the Trump Kids aren't going to let Daddy alienate the very class of people America needs most.


Well I think Trumps real problem is that he admitted to sexual assault paying no tax and ripping off his contractors. He is a self confessed grub. A genuine problem I would think

Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by Frank on Nov 16th, 2016 at 8:11pm
The Machine that has been "manufacturing consent", and who put up Hillary as its candidate against The Bern, the other anti-consensus candidate, has been broken and it will not be restored. Trump has destroyed the Republican/Democratic manufactured consent, the politically correct 'current truth'.  Trump, almost single handedly, has destroyed the republican Party and most probably the Democratic Party. Progressives should thank him.

But of course 'progressives', 'cultural creatives' ARE the Machine, the manufacturers of consent through political correctness. They have infested both the Republican and the Democratic Parties and are now rejected.

That is why this is Brexit x 10.








Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by Richdude on Nov 16th, 2016 at 8:47pm

Frank wrote on Nov 16th, 2016 at 8:11pm:
The Machine that has been "manufacturing consent", and who put up Hillary as its candidate against The Bern, the other anti-consensus candidate, has been broken and it will not be restored. Trump has destroyed the Republican/Democratic manufactured consent, the politically correct 'current truth'.  Trump, almost single handedly, has destroyed the republican Party and most probably the Democratic Party. Progressives should thank him.

But of course 'progressives', 'cultural creatives' ARE the Machine, the manufacturers of consent through political correctness. They have infested both the Republican and the Democratic Parties and are now rejected.

That is why this is Brexit x 10.

Yes we should all thank Trump. Got to be the most amazing presidential candidate of all time.
He had not only the Democrats against him but much of the Republicans and press that distorted and twisted every non PC word he made. Furthermore not one dollar of corporate money.


BTW.  Can anyone tell me what it is to be "progressive" in a political sense? I mean where are the "progressives" progressing to? What is their goal or goals?
I guess its just another bs political term to mean anything you want it to - like "national security".

Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 16th, 2016 at 8:50pm

Richdude wrote on Nov 16th, 2016 at 8:47pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 16th, 2016 at 8:11pm:
The Machine that has been "manufacturing consent", and who put up Hillary as its candidate against The Bern, the other anti-consensus candidate, has been broken and it will not be restored. Trump has destroyed the Republican/Democratic manufactured consent, the politically correct 'current truth'.  Trump, almost single handedly, has destroyed the republican Party and most probably the Democratic Party. Progressives should thank him.

But of course 'progressives', 'cultural creatives' ARE the Machine, the manufacturers of consent through political correctness. They have infested both the Republican and the Democratic Parties and are now rejected.

That is why this is Brexit x 10.

Yes we should all thank Trump. Got to be the most amazing presidential candidate of all time.
He had not only the Democrats against him but much of the Republicans and press that distorted and twisted every non PC word he made.



"thank"?  No.

He deserves to be congratulated, though.

It was a mighty effort.

Nobody has anything to thank Trump for.


Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by Frank on Nov 17th, 2016 at 10:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 16th, 2016 at 8:50pm:

Richdude wrote on Nov 16th, 2016 at 8:47pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 16th, 2016 at 8:11pm:
The Machine that has been "manufacturing consent", and who put up Hillary as its candidate against The Bern, the other anti-consensus candidate, has been broken and it will not be restored. Trump has destroyed the Republican/Democratic manufactured consent, the politically correct 'current truth'.  Trump, almost single handedly, has destroyed the republican Party and most probably the Democratic Party. Progressives should thank him.

But of course 'progressives', 'cultural creatives' ARE the Machine, the manufacturers of consent through political correctness. They have infested both the Republican and the Democratic Parties and are now rejected.

That is why this is Brexit x 10.

Yes we should all thank Trump. Got to be the most amazing presidential candidate of all time.
He had not only the Democrats against him but much of the Republicans and press that distorted and twisted every non PC word he made.



"thank"?  No.

He deserves to be congratulated, though.

It was a mighty effort.

Nobody has anything to thank Trump for.



Well, progs should thank him for almost single handedly destroying the smug Republican Party and the thinking demographic should thank him thank and also for giving a mighty helping hand to the Democrats in their efforts at self-destruction.


Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by Frank on Nov 17th, 2016 at 10:26pm

Melanias purse wrote on Nov 16th, 2016 at 5:54pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 16th, 2016 at 4:01pm:
Karnal fancies himself as a 'cultured despiser'. As is North.


"Progressives".



Where are you progressing to, Karnal? How will you know you have arrived to what you are progressing towards? What is your aim, goal, ideal. You have none.

You are not progressives, you are the 'cultured despisers'.

Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by Karnal on Nov 17th, 2016 at 10:38pm

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Nov 16th, 2016 at 5:54pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 16th, 2016 at 4:01pm:
Karnal fancies himself as a 'cultured despiser'. As is North.


"Progressives".



Where are you progressing to, Karnal? How will you know you have arrived to what you are progressing towards? What is your aim, goal, ideal. You have none.

You are not progressives, you are the 'cultured despisers'.


I aim only to love thee, old boy.

There is no goal to progress to, dear. We possess everything we need already. Love, joy, cultured despisers.

We are, you see, the children of G-d. You, I, all.

We are all one, no?

Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by mortdooley on Nov 17th, 2016 at 11:59pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 8:10am:
All he creates is concrete monstrosities


Clear case of envy.
I am sure that everyone who was involved in supplying Labor, Materials and Financing were glad to be part of building these "monstrosities".

Rich people sometimes buy big ticket items like Planes, Yachts and Vacation Homes that they just "Wish" into existence. It is not like someone had to be employed from raw materials to finished product.

Title: Re: Trump's Real Problem - the Cultural Creatives
Post by AiA on Nov 18th, 2016 at 12:07am

Frank wrote on Nov 16th, 2016 at 8:11pm:
The Machine that has been "manufacturing consent", and who put up Hillary as its candidate against The Bern, the other anti-consensus candidate, has been broken and it will not be restored. Trump has destroyed the Republican/Democratic manufactured consent, the politically correct 'current truth'.  Trump, almost single handedly, has destroyed the republican Party and most probably the Democratic Party. Progressives should thank him.

But of course 'progressives', 'cultural creatives' ARE the Machine, the manufacturers of consent through political correctness. They have infested both the Republican and the Democratic Parties and are now rejected.

That is why this is Brexit x 10.


You make a valid point Frank. Nicolas Nassim Taleb has coined a phrase for a subset of the Creative Class: IYI  (intellectual yet idiot).

https://medium.com/@nntaleb/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577#.59x94faoi

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