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Title: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Sir Bobby on Nov 13th, 2016 at 5:42pm
The Very Real Threat Of A Trump Dictatorship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZcentRR7iA Published on Nov 11, 2016 Conservatives have worried about an Obama dictatorship for years. Mostly because he’s not white. Trump, on the other hand, exhibits all the tell-tale signs (attacking journalists, etc.) of a fascist authoritarian strongman who will use any means necessary to hold onto power. You’ve been warned, America. He admires Putin for a reason. Cenk Uygur, John Iadarola, Jimmy Dore, and Alonzo Bodden, hosts of The Young Turks, break it down. Tell us what you think in the comment section below. http://tytnetwork.com/join "You saw in my title, ‘The Trump Election Crisis.’ It is named after the Cuban Missile Crisis, because an authoritarian fascist has been nominated by a major political party for the first time in our country’s history. As a result, America is in its most dangerous and frightening period since the Cuban Missile Crisis. Like the Cuban Missile Crisis, there could be Severe, imminent consequences if Trump gets elected. First is our relationships with other countries and other leaders. Then, ISIS, which is on the decline, will likely become an actual threat, because of what Trump has said about Muslims. Not to mention the potential stock market crash, like we saw in Europe after Brexit. There are numerous threats, but the biggest one is the elephant in the room that the media won’t talk about, fascism. You see people on the right, all the time, who think their “freedoms” are being infringed, you know, because Michelle Obama wants our kids to eat a few damn vegetables, because Liberals would like to see the rich pay their fair share of taxes and because transgendered people can pee in whatever bathroom they choose. Now, even though tea-baggers think those things will destroy our democracy as we know it, they’re completely behind a candidate who may actually destroy democracy as we know it. Donald Trump told a CBS’ Miami affiliate, WFOR news station yesterday that he believes the First Amendment provides ‘too much protection’ for free speech. He’s threatening our actual freedoms.” |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Karnal on Nov 13th, 2016 at 7:04pm
Trump has the presidency and, if the Republicans know what's good for them, two houses. He is now going through the process of selecting his family and friends for every government position he will control.
Trump is a billionaire. He has no need for money. He has no party loyalties and no political career. For Trump, running for the White House was never much more than a publicity stunt. He has nothing at all to lose. When asked what Fascism was, Mussolini famously answered, I am Fascism. A Fascist regime is society that is built around the will of the Leader. Amerika, on the other hand, is built around the cult of the individual. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are about self-sufficiency and individual sovereignty. Trump has only ever appealed to these values to assert his own will. Nothing in his career has demonstrated selflessness or humility. His catchphrase, you're fired, highlights Trump's style to a T. Amerika has gone down the road to Fascism. This won't be an easy road for Amerikans. Whether it ends like all past Fascist regimes in a spectacular display of self-destruction remains to be seen. One thing we know: Trump has no shame, no tact, and no humility. He does not consult, he rarely listens, he sees all obstacles - contracts, the law, and the rights of others - as hurdles to be quashed. Two things motivate such egos: fame, and revenge. Trump wants to be feared and loved by as many people as possible. He will do whatever it takes to destroy his enemies. Egos like Trump's have an insatiable appetite for notoriety, and they never forgive. Types like this get quickly bored. Trump already has wealth, and he now has power. What he hasn't tried yet is war, the ultimate aim of such egos. Trump saw his many legal battles as wars. His ghostwritten book, the Art of the Deal, referenced the Art of War. Trump has already promised trade wars with China and Mexico, and he's threatened real wars with ISIL, Iran and Cuba. The logical extention of Trump's ego is not president, a job he covers for the title alone, but Commander in Chief. Trump is now the generalissimo of the world's best-equipped military force. As with everything else he's done, Trump is unlikely to show restraint. As he's said, he sees the US military as a tool, and in particular, it's nuclear arsenal. Trump has refused to rule out nuclear attacks on Iran and Syria. Whether he would do something like this remains to be seen. Unlike all recent pre-elected US leaders, we had some inkling of how they saw such destructive power. With Trump, the only inkling we see is a tendency to not hold back. Forget ISIS, al Qaida, China, Russia and Iran. Without a doubt, Trump is now the most dangerous man in the world. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 13th, 2016 at 7:12pm Melanias purse wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 7:04pm:
Post of the year. Brilliant! |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Sir Bobby on Nov 13th, 2016 at 8:46pm
Good post:
Forget ISIS, al Qaida, China, Russia and Iran. Without a doubt, Trump is now the most dangerous man in the world. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Sir Bobby on Nov 13th, 2016 at 8:59pm
But then again he makes great sense in this video -
he is the good guy & all the others are criminals! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2s9AV910NY |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:00pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 8:46pm:
It was the post of the year. Karnal nailed it. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Sir Bobby on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:14pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:00pm:
But did you listen to the video above? |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Gordon on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:16pm Melanias purse wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 7:04pm:
Yes we'll forgive him these shortcomings, if he bans Muslims. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Rhino on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:23pm Melanias purse wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 7:04pm:
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:32pm rhino wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:23pm:
Eisenhower would have agreed with you... Eisenhower's warning was Presidential inability to constrain the military... He never had any fear that they would not make war on his command... His experience was that they would not make peace on his command. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Agnes on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:37pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 7:12pm:
X2 |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Rhino on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:39pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Sir Bobby on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:41pm
Have any of you people watched this speech?
It's very powerful - I never saw this before - this is why they voted for him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2s9AV910NY |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Rhino on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:45pm rhino wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:39pm:
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Agnes on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:49pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:41pm:
he is a deluded insane old windbag.. get a grip, that he draws breath is offensive to me, let alone listen to it. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Sir Bobby on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:51pm Agnes wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:49pm:
Maybe - will he be like Kevin Rudd & turn into a dud? or will he be a great president - or a dictator? |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Agnes on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:52pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:51pm:
errmm yeah right on there booby.. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Brian Ross on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:53pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
The influence of the hard-right, Christian evangelical lobby in the US military cannot be overlooked under Eisenhower and JFK, even under Nixon. "Dr. Strangelove" was closer to the truth, as was "Fail Safe" (both surprisingly sourced from the same novel), than many like to admit. In both cases, extremist Officers gained control of nuclear forces and attack the fUSSR in an unprovoked manner. ::) |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:58pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:41pm:
Bobby, doesn't the irony of this hit you like a bat in the face? It is about as an accurate an autobiography of Trump as youll ever hear... |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Agnes on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:00pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:58pm:
Yep . |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Karnal on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:13pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
Indeed. And herein lies the source of Trump's real power: the US military. Rhino's the most reliable poster here - he always gets things the wrong way around. The Chief is the only one with his finger on the first button. If anyone can turn JFK talking his war cabinet out of nuking Cuba into JFK being talked out of nuking Cuba, Rhino's your man. JFK's joint chiefs of staff were a select few at the time who were ready and willing to use nukes. Curtis LeMay had, after all, given the order to nuke Hiroshima and Nagasaki only 17 years before serving JFK. Keeping the chiefs in line was the most important thing JFK ever did. It could not have been easy for a young ex-WWII naval officer, but JFK really did save the world. It remains to be seen whether Trump will destroy it. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:19pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 8:59pm:
Good find Sir Bobby. We will find out how bad Hillary's health is when she uses that for an excuse to stay out of jail. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Sir Bobby on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:21pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:58pm:
He's a big talker but as president he'll have big power. Let's see if he uses it for good or bad. Australia is in the same position - we have sent our factories overseas = jobs overseas - we're selling our land to the Chinese - this country is a rust belt too - propped up by a property market. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Sir Bobby on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:23pm Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:19pm:
Thanks Baron - I found the speech that the media has hidden from us. I think Trump has bigger fish to fry than an old woman. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:25pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:23pm:
"old woman"? Trump likes young girls. His best friend is a convicted pedophile. Baron thinks Trump's child rape allegations are fine and dandy. Does Baron condone child rape? |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:28pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:25pm:
Everyone knows Little pecca is a filthy liar Why are you still here you said you would leave this forum if Trump won. Be a man and honour your bet with Bias and piss off from this forum like you said you would. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:29pm Does Baron condone child rape? Why won't he say? |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:30pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:21pm:
But he is the 'great satan' he paints the Washington establishment out to be... Thats the irony... Hasn't it been Trump's failed businesses , bogus University and tax avoidance acrobatics that were designed to fund and enrich Trump? Do you imagine Trump's business partners actually have the good of the nation in mind? & etc... Watch it again and note how congruous it becomes when you make Trump the subject. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Sir Bobby on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:33pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:30pm:
I don't know what to think - it's all speculation until we see what he does. I know we have the same problems that he talks about - here in Australia. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:44pm Melanias purse wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:13pm:
Particularly the President's 'secret army' - The CIA. That's the 'heroin' of US Presidential power... Has there been any President who has not been seduced by the idea of a private army? Once youve had too much of that white lady, I'd bet there'd be no going back... Power to any degree tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:48pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:33pm:
Trump doesn't take or need political donations, those who make political donations all want something in return. The Saudis and Gulf states donate to the Clinton foundation, WTF is the USA doing with the war between Yemen and Saudi Arabia, why are they backing the sunni in this sunni vs shia religious war? |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by issuevoter on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:52pm
Trump may not be everybody's cup of tea, but for him to become a dictator he would need the military and the police to answer to him without question. That will not happen in the next year, if ever. Don't let Leftist fantasies and sour grapes get the better of you.
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Sir Bobby on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:54pm Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:48pm:
The Saudis are evil - no one can deny that. Hillary has taken money from them even though they stone woman to death. Hillary has no morals. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 13th, 2016 at 11:00pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:54pm:
How can a feminist take money from the Saudis who don't let women drive or leave their homes without a Mahram (male they are forbidden to marry or have sex with). The Saudis use beheading to cure atheists and blasphemers. WikiLeaks showed Hillary will say one thing to her Business friends and another to the plebs who would dislike her business deals. She cannot be trusted. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Sir Bobby on Nov 13th, 2016 at 11:02pm Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 11:00pm:
Lock her up. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Sir Bobby on Nov 14th, 2016 at 5:39am
Trump has a plan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2s9AV910NY have I seen this before? - well yes - Hitler also told the people of a gigantic worldwide conspiracy against the German people. Is this the same kind of talk? I really don't know what to make of it yet. Let's see what Trump does. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Frank on Nov 14th, 2016 at 11:04am Melanias purse wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:13pm:
;D ;D ;D ;D Turn it up a few notches, you are only hysterical. Get those hot flushes working, see if you can get to apoplectic and completely unhinged before January. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Frank on Nov 14th, 2016 at 11:07am Bobby. wrote on Nov 14th, 2016 at 5:39am:
Malcolm also says he has a plan. So Trump is America's Turnbull then. Anyone who uses Hitler to illustrate their vague and foggy notions around Trump is an ignorant, stupid fool. Don't do it, it just exposes you to ridicule. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Frank on Nov 14th, 2016 at 11:23am greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:00pm:
It's an idiotic post in a thread based on an idiotic notion. The progressive left has been moving beyond good and evil for a century or more, labelling it all as just so much socially constructed hooey, insisting that being preoccupied with such post-modern and post-christian nonsense as transgender toilets, gay marriage and open borders is where post-modern, post-Christian, post-whatever thinking is. But let someone who doesn't buy into any of that nonsense be elected president or simply express contrary views and the progressive left are immediately back into the apocalyptic hyperbole of good and evil, referencing fascism and nazism at every turn (that's their tired old cliche of virtue signalling). All you need to do is disagree with them and not be cowered or bullied but instead win a few elections and they are off their heads. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 14th, 2016 at 11:27am
This last post seems a bit pseudointellectual.
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Karnal on Nov 14th, 2016 at 2:37pm Frank wrote on Nov 14th, 2016 at 11:04am:
Yes, the old boy did say this . |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Karnal on Nov 14th, 2016 at 2:38pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 14th, 2016 at 11:27am:
University of Balogney, innit. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 14th, 2016 at 2:38pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 14th, 2016 at 11:27am:
A cut and paste from a Postmodernism Generator. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by NorthOfNorth on Nov 14th, 2016 at 2:47pm Melanias purse wrote on Nov 14th, 2016 at 2:38pm:
Ahh, Balogney! I remember the ads from the 80's [olist] Got nowhere else? Try Balogney! (In Winter before the sun overheats the Balognian bogs) [/olist] |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Sir Bobby on Nov 14th, 2016 at 3:58pm
What happened to all the posts since 3.47pm?
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Sir Bobby on Nov 14th, 2016 at 6:33pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 14th, 2016 at 3:58pm:
They have been lost in cyberspace. see here: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1479102436 |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Sir Bobby on Nov 15th, 2016 at 9:45am
I saw Trump being interviewed last night.
He seems to have changed into a resonable sounding person since he was elected. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 15th, 2016 at 10:05am Bobby. wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 9:45am:
So he's backtracked already. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 15th, 2016 at 10:10am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 10:05am:
BIG Time. |
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Title: Re: A Trump dictatorship? Post by Sir Bobby on Nov 15th, 2016 at 10:49am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 10:05am:
Yes - he's turning his wall into a fence. He wants people to be kind to Mexicans. He's only going to send back Mexicans with criminal records. He's gone easy on everyone. He sounds really nice now. |
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