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Message started by The Mechanic on Nov 10th, 2016 at 5:45pm

Title: Obama a Failure...
Post by The Mechanic on Nov 10th, 2016 at 5:45pm

Quote:
WASHINGTON — Donald Trump's stunning victory Tuesday was nothing less than a repudiation of the Obama presidency. 

"Elections have consequences," as President Obama himself said after his 2008 win. And for Obama, it's hard to imagine a more consequential outcome Tuesday night.

With Republicans maintaining control of the House and Senate, President-elect Trump would be in a position to repeal large parts of Obama's legislative agenda, repeal his executive orders with a stroke of a pen, and install conservative Supreme Court justices. 

Consider the opposite scenario: Clinton's election would have ushered in a new era of American politics: The Obama era. With his former secretary of State in the White House, Obama would be able to count on on a successor who will pursue some of his most transformative and controversial policies: immigration reform, the expansion of health care and environmental regulation.

Trump has pledged to repeal every one of them.

Trump's election represents a "hostile takeover" of the White House, upending the political order with a new brand of politics that doesn't neatly fit into the existing bipartisan framework, said Curt Nichols, a political science professor at Baylor University who has studied how presidential elections affect the reordering of American politics. 

Judging from his whirlwind campaigning of the past few weeks, no one was more aware of Trump's threat to his legacy than Obama himself.

He recited a litany of accomplishments — from the auto industry rescue to the Affordable Care Act to the Paris climate accords.

"All the progress we’ve made goes out the window if we don’t win this election," he said in stump speeches in Ohio, North Carolina and Florida — states Trump won by appealing to largely voters disaffected by the economic disruption of the last decade. "Let's go finish what we started." 

Trump's win puts more urgency into Obama's lame-duck presidency, as Obama will now have to redouble his efforts to solidify his agenda.

The Trans-Pacific Partnership must pass on his watch, or not at all. With criminal justice reform less likely, he could resort even more to his power to pardon and commute sentences.

Regardless of how it ends, Obama has accomplished something that history cannot take away: He is the first African-American president — and a two-term president at that.

But his reliance on executive action in the final years of his presidency makes many of his accomplishments easily erased. Historians will debate whether Obama could have done more establish a more permanent legacy, or whether he was the victim of forces beyond his control.
 
"With this loss, President Obama loses the opportunity to go down as one of America's great presidents," Nichols said. "It looks like Obama has failed to exploit his opportunity to be a transformation president."

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by The Mechanic on Nov 10th, 2016 at 5:46pm
struth..

what a loser.. and a failure..

the only thing he'll be remembered for is the colour of his skin...  ::)

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by mothra on Nov 10th, 2016 at 5:49pm
Link?

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by lee on Nov 10th, 2016 at 6:14pm
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/11/09/president-obama-election-clinton-trump/93201172/

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 10th, 2016 at 6:17pm

The Mechanic calling Obama a failure.

Now that's funny.




Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by John Smith on Nov 10th, 2016 at 6:18pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 5:45pm:
Donald Trump's stunning victory Tuesday was nothing less than a repudiation of the Obama presidency.



what a stupid statement ... Obama wasn't running, Hillary was. If Obama was able to run Thrump would not have won

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by lee on Nov 10th, 2016 at 6:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 6:17pm:
The Mechanic calling Obama a failure.

Now that's funny.



Your absolutely right. He was successful at ruling by fiat. By entering treaties that were not agreed by Congress. What a champion.  BTW- do I need a /sarc tag?

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 10th, 2016 at 6:42pm

lee wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 6:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 6:17pm:
The Mechanic calling Obama a failure.

Now that's funny.



Your absolutely right. He was successful at ruling by fiat.


A Fiat Strada, I believe.


Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by cods on Nov 10th, 2016 at 6:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 6:17pm:
The Mechanic calling Obama a failure.

Now that's funny.



so what did he actually do in 8 years??.. I wont even mention Libya.....


he has been credited with the spread of ISIS

not sure how high that is on anyones scale of achievements but at least its something..

what about closing Guantanamo  did that actually happen??...

did crime drop and racism go down  in the USA ... hummmmm...

did  white cops stop killing blacks willy nilly..???

well something must have changed...  ::) ::) 8 years gawd..


Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 10th, 2016 at 6:58pm

cods wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 6:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 6:17pm:
The Mechanic calling Obama a failure.

Now that's funny.



so what did he actually do in 8 years??..


Homicides have dropped 13 percent.

The economy has added more than 9 million jobs, and the jobless rate has dropped to below the historical median.

The number of long-term unemployed Americans has dropped by 614,000 under Obama.

Corporate profits are up 166 percent; real weekly wages are up 3.4 percent.

There are 15 million fewer people who lack health insurance.

Wind and solar power have nearly tripled, and now account for more than 5 percent of U.S. electricity.

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 10th, 2016 at 7:06pm

cods wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 6:55pm:
did crime drop


It sure did.

"Homicides and other violent crime have decreased markedly since Obama took office.

"According to the FBI’s most recent annual compilation of crime reports published Dec. 14, there were 2,216 fewer murders and deaths from nonnegligent manslaughter in the U.S. during 2014 than in 2008, the year before Obama first took office. That’s a 13 percent reduction in the number of homicides.

"The drop in all violent crime — including homicide, rape, robbery and aggravated assault — is even greater. There were 229,078 fewer violent crimes in the U.S. in 2014 than in 2008, a drop of 16 percent, according to the FBI.

"And because the U.S. population was growing, the violent crime rate dropped even faster than the absolute numbers. In 2014, the homicide rate was 4.5 per 100,000 inhabitants, down from 5.4 in 2008."

Fact Check


Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by Gordon on Nov 10th, 2016 at 7:08pm
Obama killed a shitttload of Muzlims.
Reckon he ever pressed the red button him self and killed a muz with a drone?

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 10th, 2016 at 7:11pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 7:08pm:
Obama killed a shitttload of Muzlims.


Jealous?

Do you want to rule with a red Fiat too?


Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by Gordon on Nov 10th, 2016 at 7:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 7:11pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 7:08pm:
Obama killed a shitttload of Muzlims.


Jealous?

Do you want to rule with a red Fiat too?


I'm happy being a netball team manager and glad Obama kills a shittone of terrorists to keep my team safe

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by The Mechanic on Nov 10th, 2016 at 8:06pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 6:18pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 5:45pm:
Donald Trump's stunning victory Tuesday was nothing less than a repudiation of the Obama presidency.



what a stupid statement ... Obama wasn't running, Hillary was. If Obama was able to run Thrump would not have won


well durrr...

comprehension isn't your strong point is it dumb dumb...  ::)

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 10th, 2016 at 8:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 7:06pm:

cods wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 6:55pm:
did crime drop


It sure did.

"Homicides and other violent crime have decreased markedly since Obama took office.

"According to the FBI’s most recent annual compilation of crime reports published Dec. 14, there were 2,216 fewer murders and deaths from nonnegligent manslaughter in the U.S. during 2014 than in 2008, the year before Obama first took office. That’s a 13 percent reduction in the number of homicides.

"The drop in all violent crime — including homicide, rape, robbery and aggravated assault — is even greater. There were 229,078 fewer violent crimes in the U.S. in 2014 than in 2008, a drop of 16 percent, according to the FBI.

"And because the U.S. population was growing, the violent crime rate dropped even faster than the absolute numbers. In 2014, the homicide rate was 4.5 per 100,000 inhabitants, down from 5.4 in 2008."

Fact Check


Impressive.

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by The Mechanic on Nov 11th, 2016 at 6:25am
what are you still doing here pecca..

rack off and go drink your losers Beer..  ;D

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by red baron on Nov 11th, 2016 at 7:16am
Obama swept in on a wave of goodwill. He promised so much and delivered so little. As a person Obama is great but as a President he was an abysmal failure.

He managed to double the national debt for America in his 8 years.

His Obama Health care is a costly mistake.

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 11th, 2016 at 9:11am

red baron wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 7:16am:
Obama swept in on a wave of goodwill. He promised so much and delivered so little.


Homicides have dropped 13 percent.

The economy has added more than 9 million jobs, and the jobless rate has dropped to below the historical median.

The number of long-term unemployed Americans has dropped by 614,000 under Obama.

Corporate profits are up 166 percent; real weekly wages are up 3.4 percent.

There are 15 million fewer people who lack health insurance.

Wind and solar power have nearly tripled, and now account for more than 5 percent of U.S. electricity.

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by lee on Nov 11th, 2016 at 11:49am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 9:11am:

red baron wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 7:16am:
Obama swept in on a wave of goodwill. He promised so much and delivered so little.


Homicides have dropped 13 percent.

The economy has added more than 9 million jobs, and the jobless rate has dropped to below the historical median.

The number of long-term unemployed Americans has dropped by 614,000 under Obama.

Corporate profits are up 166 percent; real weekly wages are up 3.4 percent.

There are 15 million fewer people who lack health insurance.

Wind and solar power have nearly tripled, and now account for more than 5 percent of U.S. electricity.


How did Obama do that?

Buyback guns? No.

Put a cop on every street corner? Nope, he doesn't have that power.

Is that 5% of power available as needed? No.

Mixing statistics with spin. How novel.

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 11th, 2016 at 11:53am

lee wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 11:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 9:11am:

red baron wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 7:16am:
Obama swept in on a wave of goodwill. He promised so much and delivered so little.


Homicides have dropped 13 percent.

The economy has added more than 9 million jobs, and the jobless rate has dropped to below the historical median.

The number of long-term unemployed Americans has dropped by 614,000 under Obama.

Corporate profits are up 166 percent; real weekly wages are up 3.4 percent.

There are 15 million fewer people who lack health insurance.

Wind and solar power have nearly tripled, and now account for more than 5 percent of U.S. electricity.


How did Obama do that?


With style and grace.





Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by lee on Nov 11th, 2016 at 11:56am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 11:53am:

lee wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 11:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 9:11am:

red baron wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 7:16am:
Obama swept in on a wave of goodwill. He promised so much and delivered so little.


Homicides have dropped 13 percent.

The economy has added more than 9 million jobs, and the jobless rate has dropped to below the historical median.

The number of long-term unemployed Americans has dropped by 614,000 under Obama.

Corporate profits are up 166 percent; real weekly wages are up 3.4 percent.

There are 15 million fewer people who lack health insurance.

Wind and solar power have nearly tripled, and now account for more than 5 percent of U.S. electricity.


How did Obama do that?


With style and grace.


Yep, He achieved it all with a twitch of his nose.

Good truncation by the way. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by Raven on Nov 11th, 2016 at 12:43pm
The first bill President Obama signed was the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, to help women fight back when they don't get equal pay for equal work.

His Recovery Act supported millions of jobs and helped to stave off a second Great Depression.

He pushed for and won middle class tax cuts that benefited every American worker, and saved the typical family $3,600 in taxes over the last four years.

He doubled funding for Pell Grants, helping to make college more affordable for nearly 10 million families.

His student loan reform ended billions in subsidies to banks serving as middlemen and reinvested those savings directly in students.

The President established the American Opportunity Tax Credit, worth up to $10,000 over four years of college.

His Race to the Top Initiative helped spur nearly every state to raise academic standards.

His tax cuts, social-welfare programs, and economic policies lifted nearly 7 million Americans above the federal poverty line in 2010.

President Obama has signed more 18 tax cuts for small businesses since taking office.

The unemployment rate is at 4.9%

Health care reform—passed after decades of failed attempts by every previous president—provides affordable health coverage to every American and will lower premiums by an average of $2,000 per family by 2019.

Obamacare expanded access to lifesaving preventive care such as cancer screenings and immunizations with no out-of-pocket costs for 54 million Americans.

Obamacare ends insurance discrimination against the 129 million Americans with pre-existing conditions.

Because of Obamacare, over 3 million more young adults have health insurance today than would if the new law hadn't passed.

The parents of over 17 million children with pre-existing conditions no longer have to worry that their children will be denied coverage.

President Obama has ordered the overhaul of federal government regulations to make them smarter, practical, and more efficient. Just a fraction of these common-sense initiatives will help save businesses $10 billion in the next five years alone.

His investments in clean energy have helped more than double the amount of electricity America obtains from wind and solar sources and helped increase biofuel production to its highest level in history.

Obama is doubled fuel efficiency standards, which will save drivers more than $8,000 at the gas pump, not to mention lessen the impact of automobiles on our environment.

Obama took unprecedented action to address climate change, reaching historic international agreements to curb carbon emissions, and taking action in America to reduce carbon pollution from vehicles and promote clean energy production.

He has taken action to protect our environment—signing one of the largest expansions of protected wilderness in a generation and putting in place standards to reduce toxic air pollution that will save thousands of lives.

President Obama fought for and won landmark Wall Street reform that reins in the abuses that led to the financial crisis and ends the era of taxpayer bailouts and "too big to fail."

Wall Street reform created the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, the nation's first federal agency focused solely on consumer financial protection—and the Bureau is already protecting families from unfair and abusive financial practices from Wall Street banks and shadowy corners of the financial industry.

Obama's all-of-the-above approach to energy has helped cut the United States' dependence on foreign oil to its lowest level in 20 years.

Obama rallied the international community to implement the toughest sanctions on Iran in history.

Through the President's historic increases in Veterans Affairs funding, he has expanded and improved healthcare and job training access for returning veterans.

Obama negotiated the New START Treaty with Russia to reduce the number of nuclear weapons in both countries. At the same time, he also secured commitments from dozens of other countries to lock down nuclear materials.

His administration naturalized 11,146 military service members as U.S. citizens in 2010; more than in any year since 1955.

He affirmed his personal support of marriage equality, directed the Justice Department to stop defending DOMA in federal courts, and took the practical and compassionate step of extending hospital visitation rights to same-sex partners.

He repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell", allowing gay and lesbian members of the military to serve openly for the first time in history.

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by Raven on Nov 11th, 2016 at 12:45pm
And that was just the first 4 years

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 11th, 2016 at 1:02pm

lee wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 11:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 9:11am:

red baron wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 7:16am:
Obama swept in on a wave of goodwill. He promised so much and delivered so little.


Homicides have dropped 13 percent.

The economy has added more than 9 million jobs, and the jobless rate has dropped to below the historical median.

The number of long-term unemployed Americans has dropped by 614,000 under Obama.

Corporate profits are up 166 percent; real weekly wages are up 3.4 percent.

There are 15 million fewer people who lack health insurance.

Wind and solar power have nearly tripled, and now account for more than 5 percent of U.S. electricity.


How did Obama do that?

Buyback guns? No.

Put a cop on every street corner? Nope, he doesn't have that power.

Is that 5% of power available as needed? No.

Mixing statistics with spin. How novel.


Those who have shares in Ruger along with Smith and Wesson did really well from increased gun sales in the USA during Obama's rule



Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 11th, 2016 at 1:03pm

Raven wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 12:45pm:
And that was just the first 4 years


Impressive.


Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by Sprintcyclist on Nov 11th, 2016 at 3:00pm


Under Obama in 8 years , average wages have fallen.

Heroin usage has tripled.


Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 11th, 2016 at 3:05pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 3:00pm:
Under Obama in 8 years , average wages have fallen.


"The BLS measure of average weekly earnings for all workers, adjusted for inflation and seasonal factors, is 3.4 percent higher in November than it was when Obama first took office."

Fact Check

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 11th, 2016 at 3:12pm

He urged states in 2013 to raise the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour.

Since then 18 states and Washington, D.C. have responded.

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 11th, 2016 at 3:15pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 5:46pm:
struth..

what a loser.. and a failure..

the only thing he'll be remembered for is the colour of his skin...  ::)


What about pulling the economy out of a deep recession that was tipped to be a Depression?  Thats a rather spectacular acheivement by any measurement that intelligent people use.  I dont know what measuring stick stupid people use so perhaps you can tell us?

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 11th, 2016 at 3:17pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 3:00pm:
Under Obama in 8 years , average wages have fallen.

Heroin usage has tripled.


Now I know why you liked Trump. You think lying with impunity and making claims that only fools (ie50% of americans) would beleive is a good thing.


Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 11th, 2016 at 3:19pm

cods wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 6:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 6:17pm:
The Mechanic calling Obama a failure.

Now that's funny.



so what did he actually do in 8 years??.. I wont even mention Libya.....


he has been credited with the spread of ISIS    ONly by stupid people.

not sure how high that is on anyones scale of achievements but at least its something..

what about closing Guantanamo  did that actually happen??... the REpublican Congress blocked it. Next silly claim?

did crime drop and racism go down  in the USA ... hummmmm...

did  white cops stop killing blacks willy nilly..???

well something must have changed...  ::) ::) 8 years gawd..



Kepp on drinking cods and perhaps call a few more people pedos.  Thats your strength

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by red baron on Nov 11th, 2016 at 3:24pm
Obama's Legacy...what freaking Legacy?  Are you talking on how the Obama Government doubled the nation debt to 19 Trillion dollars in 8 years.

Or are you talking about Obama Health Care that costs the average family more per year than their Mortgage...Yes Donald Trump is going to axe that carcass before it axes itself. It is dire financial straits and before the election pundits said it would go broke within 5 years.

The U.S.national identity was being threatened by  Obama, a Muslim, trying to turn the U.S. into Islam central...a message that voters across the nation sent to Obama and Clinton when they rejected mass Muslim migration that Obama was carrying out.

The U.S. public sent the Politicians a clear message...America first...America first.....America first

Who could blame them


Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by Neferti on Nov 11th, 2016 at 3:33pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 3:19pm:

cods wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 6:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 6:17pm:
The Mechanic calling Obama a failure.

Now that's funny.



so what did he actually do in 8 years??.. I wont even mention Libya.....


he has been credited with the spread of ISIS    ONly by stupid people.

not sure how high that is on anyones scale of achievements but at least its something..

what about closing Guantanamo  did that actually happen??... the REpublican Congress blocked it. Next silly claim?

did crime drop and racism go down  in the USA ... hummmmm...

did  white cops stop killing blacks willy nilly..???

well something must have changed...  ::) ::) 8 years gawd..



Kepp on drinking cods and perhaps call a few more people pedos.  Thats your strength


That wasn't very nice Longweekend. Cods is allowed to have an OPINION the same as the rest of us .... should you disagree, calling her a DRUNK really is hitting below the belt.

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 11th, 2016 at 3:36pm

Neferti wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 3:33pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 3:19pm:

cods wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 6:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 6:17pm:
The Mechanic calling Obama a failure.

Now that's funny.



so what did he actually do in 8 years??.. I wont even mention Libya.....


he has been credited with the spread of ISIS    ONly by stupid people.

not sure how high that is on anyones scale of achievements but at least its something..

what about closing Guantanamo  did that actually happen??... the REpublican Congress blocked it. Next silly claim?

did crime drop and racism go down  in the USA ... hummmmm...

did  white cops stop killing blacks willy nilly..???

well something must have changed...  ::) ::) 8 years gawd..



Kepp on drinking cods and perhaps call a few more people pedos.  Thats your strength


That wasn't very nice Longweekend. Cods is allowed to have an OPINION the same as the rest of us .... should you disagree, calling her a DRUNK really is hitting below the belt.


normally that would be true. But this particular scum specialises in calling someone a pedo if they even dare to have a position short of capital punishment so no, it is quite justified. I can debate with anyone, but when she calls me (and others) pedos simply for disagreeing with her opinion then all bets are off.

Yes, she is allowed an opinion - and so am I. We are both aware of that. She is not.

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by Sprintcyclist on Nov 11th, 2016 at 3:41pm

red baron wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 3:24pm:
Obama's Legacy...what freaking Legacy?  Are you talking on how the Obama Government doubled the nation debt to 19 Trillion dollars in 8 years.

Or are you talking about Obama Health Care that costs the average family more per year than their Mortgage...Yes Donald Trump is going to axe that carcass before it axes itself. It is dire financial straits and before the election pundits said it would go broke within 5 years.

The U.S.national identity was being threatened by  Obama, a Muslim, trying to turn the U.S. into Islam central...a message that voters across the nation sent to Obama and Clinton when they rejected mass Muslim migration that Obama was carrying out.

The U.S. public sent the Politicians a clear message...America first...America first.....America first

Who could blame them


Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 11th, 2016 at 3:43pm
And it doubled in 8 years of Bush and it increased 300 per cent whilst Reagan was in power.

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 11th, 2016 at 4:06pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 3:41pm:

red baron wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 3:24pm:
Obama's Legacy...what freaking Legacy?  Are you talking on how the Obama Government doubled the nation debt to 19 Trillion dollars in 8 years.

Or are you talking about Obama Health Care that costs the average family more per year than their Mortgage...Yes Donald Trump is going to axe that carcass before it axes itself. It is dire financial straits and before the election pundits said it would go broke within 5 years.

The U.S.national identity was being threatened by  Obama, a Muslim, trying to turn the U.S. into Islam central...a message that voters across the nation sent to Obama and Clinton when they rejected mass Muslim migration that Obama was carrying out.

The U.S. public sent the Politicians a clear message...America first...America first.....America first

Who could blame them


you conveniently ignore the Depression that was on the horizon when Obama took over. That kind of problem requires some serious money.

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by Sprintcyclist on Nov 11th, 2016 at 7:25pm
Obama the loser


Quote:
Awkward. Forced. Uneasy. The Victor and the Vanquished.

That’s what the body language of President Barack Obama and President-elect Donald Trump shouted at their meeting in the White House today.

If ever there was a set of images that parallels Russell Crowe as the gladiator standing over the loser, this was it.

It’s hard when two people who clearly don’t like each other have to meet publicly while displaying civility and a sense of unity towards each other.

When you listen to the words of this meeting you can be left feeling that these are two friends who are trying to encourage a happy outcome. But watch them on TV with the sound turned off and you’ll get a very different perspective.

Body language reveals how people really feel about things and it accounts for 60 per cent to 80 per cent of all face-to-face interaction between people.

During this brief encounter, both men sat with their legs spread just as alpha-male apes do to display their masculinity and to prevent the other guy from getting into a one-up position. They both minimised mutual eye-contact, opting to look at the reporters instead.


Trump sat forward the entire time in order to show dominance and displayed his classic trademark gesture of superiority — the Hand Steeple. People who feel confident, superior or authoritative often use this gesture.

Trump traditionally holds the Hand-Steeple higher at chest level in order to give him an air of confidence and even arrogance, but in today’s encounter he kept it subtly low.

He also used his typical tight-lipped-smile, revealing he was withholding some strong words and emotions about his meeting with Obama.

Under pressure — such as in this staged meeting — our real feelings and emotions are often revealed through our gestures and expressions. Obama — like Hillary Clinton — is a seasoned, polished career politician who is excellent at giving persuasive, convincing speeches to his audience.

It’s really not much different to professional acting and can make it difficult to pick whether or not that person is being genuine. While Obama generally put on an upbeat ‘brave face’ for the audience, his body language leaked a story of defeat.

Not so with the comparatively inexperienced Trump however — while he has a limited range of repetitive gestures and expressions, what you see is what you get. He says what he feels and his body language is congruent with what he is saying — whether you like it or not.

In other words, everything matches.

Trump is a businessman, cut and dry, black and white.

In today’s White House meeting, Obama, despite his best efforts, revealed a rare display of emotional defeat while Donald Trump was a well-contained version of his usual, dominant self.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/business/work/what-the-body-language-of-barack-obama-and-donald-trump-says-about-their-meeting/news-story/58766162aa2cf8965214f934160ca151

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by Sprintcyclist on Nov 20th, 2016 at 10:59am



Quote:
Obama, thanks for the tip, seeing as how you nearly, singlehandedly created the most dangerous situation in Syrian the modern world has seen.
Arming Syrian rebels with weapons to overthrow Assad, the Defence Secretary Hitlery Clinton delaying orders to defend the Ambassador in Benghazi which resulted in his death.
Helping propagate the false stories in regards to police misconduct in the Michael Brown case in Ferguson.
The Sandy Hook shooting which has so many holes it it's official story that it boggles the mind as to how anyone can consciously consider it happened at all.
Refusing Putins assistance in actually fighting ISIS together after your failed attempts to destroy them. (Even though everyone knows your administration created them).
Taking out Bin Laden and burying him at sea (Hardly Believable) and let's not forget the entire seal team 6 that oddly enough all perished in a helicopter accident without proper backup of F16's.
Took out Gadaffi completely destabilizing Lidya, AND never once reviewed the 9/11 commissions report as to how exactly building 7, steel structure I might add) collapsed onto its own footprint after Larry Silverstein (Owner of WTC 1-2 & 7) told the fire department to "Pull it", a term used in demolition to...wait for it.... deliberately implode a structure by strategically placing explosive materials in the building to ensure minimal damage is done to surrounding buildings resulting in a collapse onto its own footprint.
Strangely similar to building 1 & 2 in 9/11 I might add.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/russian-town-to-rally-for-trump-while-putin-warns-us-on-weapons/2016/11/18/541ee92e-ad94-11e6-8410-7613f8c1dae8_story.html#comments

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by The Mechanic on Nov 20th, 2016 at 2:13pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 20th, 2016 at 10:59am:

Quote:
Obama, thanks for the tip, seeing as how you nearly, singlehandedly created the most dangerous situation in Syrian the modern world has seen.
Arming Syrian rebels with weapons to overthrow Assad, the Defence Secretary Hitlery Clinton delaying orders to defend the Ambassador in Benghazi which resulted in his death.
Helping propagate the false stories in regards to police misconduct in the Michael Brown case in Ferguson.
The Sandy Hook shooting which has so many holes it it's official story that it boggles the mind as to how anyone can consciously consider it happened at all.
Refusing Putins assistance in actually fighting ISIS together after your failed attempts to destroy them. (Even though everyone knows your administration created them).
Taking out Bin Laden and burying him at sea (Hardly Believable) and let's not forget the entire seal team 6 that oddly enough all perished in a helicopter accident without proper backup of F16's.
Took out Gadaffi completely destabilizing Lidya, AND never once reviewed the 9/11 commissions report as to how exactly building 7, steel structure I might add) collapsed onto its own footprint after Larry Silverstein (Owner of WTC 1-2 & 7) told the fire department to "Pull it", a term used in demolition to...wait for it.... deliberately implode a structure by strategically placing explosive materials in the building to ensure minimal damage is done to surrounding buildings resulting in a collapse onto its own footprint.
Strangely similar to building 1 & 2 in 9/11 I might add.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/russian-town-to-rally-for-trump-while-putin-warns-us-on-weapons/2016/11/18/541ee92e-ad94-11e6-8410-7613f8c1dae8_story.html#comments


a failure and a traitor to his own country...

its time to round up these scumbags and put them in the electric chair for war crimes committed against innocent countries and their civilians...

for war crimes that killed thousands of americans..

Bush
Obama
Hillary

and all of there staff.... fry the lot of them...  >:(

Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by Panther on Nov 20th, 2016 at 4:38pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 5:46pm:
struth..

what a loser.. and a failure..

the only thing he'll be remembered for is the colour of his skin...  ::)


Geeez, he's a Collingwood Supporter.....Zebra striped....black & white!

Now what!!??
 




Title: Re: Obama a Failure...
Post by The Mechanic on Dec 13th, 2016 at 9:09pm

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