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Message started by red baron on Nov 8th, 2016 at 12:58pm

Title: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by red baron on Nov 8th, 2016 at 12:58pm
Finally...the United States arrives at the cross roads. Tomorrow the citizens of America will go to the polls to decide their destiny in what is probably the most important U.S. election in decades.
America is burdened with an enormous national debt. Its industry is failing. Corporations are fleeing overseas to operate in friendlier climate. Millions of Americans have already lost their jobs due to the total inefficiency of Obama and th Democrats to protect and encourage industry during the last 8 years.

When one looks at Obama's Legacy...just what did he achieve? Obama Helath care? It is so expensive it is frightening. Forecasts say that it will be totally insoluble within 5 years when it will literally go broke.

Obama has been useless on the international front with I.S.I.S. grabbing a stronghold on his watch. Obama's handling of the Middle East conflicts has been pathetic. The Middle East today is a basket case that the U.S. Government has mishandled on a grand scale.

Hillary Clinton's solution to the enormous national debt is to flag an additional tax on the rich. This is simply flying kites because Hillary Clinton and her Democrats are in the 'old money's pocket'. A new tax to rid the U.S. of its trillions in debt. So childish it is laughable...if it wasn't so serious.

Hillary Clinton has no vision, no plan for the future and shoud she win the U.S. will get a serious dose of the 'same old, same old'. If that happens it will; break America..They simply can't afford the luxury of a screaming rant like Clinton with nothing new to offer a Country which is hungry for leadership...they won't get it from her. What they get from her is War...War...War and a national debt that is already way out of control.

But....should they elect someone who has railed against the establishment... Donald Trump. Then they will elect someone who does have a plan for the future and the ability and accumen to bring it off.

Trump has been assassinated by mainstream media who all should be wearing Vote Hillary Badges. He has been attacked on every front but even a simpleton should be able to see through this pile of crap that has been levelled at him.

Hillary Clinton has got the pop stars, the movie stars, the singers the sports people doing her bidding. Just how much Beyonce knows about running a Country is a mystery to me. She even belittled herself by going to a black people's church service. Yes I'm sure that one got you the black vote..what a joke! You need a vision and I'm afraid your knapsack is empty.

If America is to have a chance to rescue itself the time is now..because it's one minute to midnight for the U.S.of A.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:00pm

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 12:58pm:
Finally...the United States arrives at the cross roads. Tomorrow the citizens of America will go to the polls to decide their destiny in what is probably the most important U.S. election in decades.
America is burdened with an enormous national debt. Its industry is failing. Corporations are fleeing overseas to operate in friendlier climate. Millions of Americans have already lost their jobs due to the total inefficiency of Obama and th Democrats to protect and encourage industry during the last 8 years.

When one looks at Obama's Legacy...just what did he achieve? Obama Helath care? It is so expensive it is frightening. Forecasts say that it will be totally insoluble within 5 years when it will literally go broke.

Obama has been useless on the international front with I.S.I.S. grabbing a stronghold on his watch. Obama's handling of the Middle East conflicts has been pathetic. The Middle East today is a basket case that the U.S. Government has mishandled on a grand scale.

Hillary Clinton's solution to the enormous national debt is to flag an additional tax on the rich. This is simply flying kites because Hillary Clinton and her Democrats are in the 'old money's pocket'. A new tax to rid the U.S. of its trillions in debt. So childish it is laughable...if it wasn't so serious.

Hillary Clinton has no vision, no plan for the future and shoud she win the U.S. will get a serious dose of the 'same old, same old'. If that happens it will; break America..They simply can'lt afford the luxury of a screaming rant like Clinton with nothing new to offer a Country which is hungry for leadership...they won't get it from her. What they get from her is War...War...War and a national debt that is already way out of control.

But....should they elect someone who has railed against the establishment... Donald Trump. Then they will elect someone who does have a plan for the future and the ability and accumen to bring it off.

Trump has been assassinated by mainstream media who all should be wearing Vote Hillary Badges. He has been attacked on every front but even a simpleton should be able to see through this pile of crap that has been levelled at him.

Hillary Clinton has got the pop stars, the movie stars, the singers the sports people doing her bidding. Just how much Beyonce knows about running a Country is a mystery to me. She even belittled herself by going to a black people's church service. Yes I'm sure that one got you the black vote..what a joke! You need a vision and I'm afraid your knapsack is empty.

If America is to have a chance to rescue itself the time is now..because it's one minute to midnight for the U.S.of A.



Because make america great again, is a far-reaching detailed view of how Trump is going to drag it back?

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Unforgiven on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:02pm
A loser's diatribe from Red Baron who is already blaming others for his loss.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:02pm

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 12:58pm:
Just how much Beyonce knows about running a Country is a mystery to me.


How does Trump know any more than her?




Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by red baron on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:04pm
Bojack....If America was a patient ...it would be on life support..like right now!

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:05pm

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:04pm:
Bojack....If America was a patient ...it would be on life support..like right now!




See here is the great leap in flawed logic I see. You may well be right, I probably even agree with you for the need for change.


But just because they need change is Trump really the best agent for that change?

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:06pm

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:04pm:
Bojack....If America was a patient ...it would be on life support..like right now!


And Donald Trump would be Dr Seuss.


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Unforgiven on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:07pm

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:04pm:
Bojack....If America was a patient ...it would be on life support..like right now!


Like the English patient?

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by red baron on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:07pm
You need to read this before you have dinner so you don't get indigestion!

Today’s Federal Debt is $19,790,136,330,003.19.

The amount is the gross outstanding federal debt issued by the United States Department of the Treasury since 1790.

But, it doesn’t include state and local debt.

And, it doesn’t include so-called “agency debt.”

And, it doesn’t include the so-called unfunded liabilities of entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicare.

Federal Debt per person is about $60,650.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:11pm

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:07pm:
You need to read this before you have dinner so you don't get indigestion!

Today’s Federal Debt is $19,790,136,330,003.19.

The amount is the gross outstanding federal debt issued by the United States Department of the Treasury since 1790.

But, it doesn’t include state and local debt.

And, it doesn’t include so-called “agency debt.”

And, it doesn’t include the so-called unfunded liabilities of entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicare.

Federal Debt per person is about $60,650.




Again, how is Trump planning to deal with this?

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Unforgiven on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:13pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:11pm:

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:07pm:
You need to read this before you have dinner so you don't get indigestion!

Today’s Federal Debt is $19,790,136,330,003.19.

The amount is the gross outstanding federal debt issued by the United States Department of the Treasury since 1790.

But, it doesn’t include state and local debt.

And, it doesn’t include so-called “agency debt.”

And, it doesn’t include the so-called unfunded liabilities of entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicare.

Federal Debt per person is about $60,650.


Again, how is Trump planning to deal with this?


Declare bankruptcy and refuse to pay creditors.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by red baron on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:15pm
Bojack...perhaps there might be someone better qualified out there than Donald Trump.

But Trump knows how to run a business and make it profitable. He sure as hell will knows how to deal with the indescribable national debt of America.

For starters he is going to slap the all pervasive China with a 45% tariff and then lower corporate tax in America by 30%. This is called making America able to compete again.

Its all well and good to get cheap Chinese goods but eventually the price we will all pay is that China will own everyone's arse and I do mean everyone.

The U.S. need a radical change of direction - Donald Trump will provide just that

Trump is Isolationist and will pull America back from the unwinnable wars in the Middle East

Hilary Clinton will ramp up the war wagon (still) if she makes it

I can't see a single thing Hillary Clinton has stated that makes it appealing to vote her in...not one


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:19pm

Unforgiven wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:13pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:11pm:

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:07pm:
You need to read this before you have dinner so you don't get indigestion!

Today’s Federal Debt is $19,790,136,330,003.19.

The amount is the gross outstanding federal debt issued by the United States Department of the Treasury since 1790.

But, it doesn’t include state and local debt.

And, it doesn’t include so-called “agency debt.”

And, it doesn’t include the so-called unfunded liabilities of entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicare.

Federal Debt per person is about $60,650.


Again, how is Trump planning to deal with this?


Declare bankruptcy and refuse to pay creditors.


Exactly.

And if that doesn't work, he'll just grab them by the p***y ... anything.


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:19pm

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
But Trump knows how to run a business and make it profitable. He sure as hell will knows how to deal with the indescribable national debt of America.


Indeed, so profitable it has to go through numerous bankruptcies. And whilst we're on profitable businesses, include in that list

Trump Shuttle
Trump University
Trump Steaks

etc.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:24pm

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
But Trump knows how to run a business and make it profitable. He sure as hell will knows how to deal with the indescribable national debt of America.


Apples and oranges.

To compare the two is ludicrous.

However, if you insist on going down that track:

1. Trump isn’t a self-made man. Trump took over his father’s business, and he inherited money when his father died.

2. Four of his businesses have filed for bankruptcy.

And:


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by red baron on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:30pm
30 Entrepreneurs Who Went Bankrupt then went on to success

Name Birthdate Profession Bankruptcy Date Eventual Net Worth


Henry Ford
July 30, 1863 Founder of Ford Motor 1903 $188,000,000,000

Donald Trump
June 14, 1946 Real Estate Developer 1990 $3,000,000,000

Walt Disney
December 5, 1901 Founder of Disney 1921 $1,100,000,000

Anna Nicole Smith
November 28, 1967 Model, Actress 1996 $450,000,000

H.J. Heinz
October 11, 1844 Founder of Heinz 1875 $400,000,000

George Foreman
January 5, 1949 Boxer/Grill Spokesman 1983 $300,000,000

Bob Guccione
December 17, 1930 Founder of Penthouse 2003 $400,000,000

Kim Basinger
December 8, 1953 Actress 1993 $250,000,000

Clarence Saunders
August 9, 1881 Founder of Piggly Wigglies (Now Safeway) 1922 $180,000,000

Milton Hershey
September 13, 1857 Founder of Hershey 1880 $150,000,000

Larry King
November 19, 1933 News Anchor 1978 $144,000,000

William C. Durant
December 8, 1861 Founder of General Motors and Chevrolet 1936 $120,000,000

Ulysses S. Grant
April 27, 1822 President 1881 $95,100,000

Francis Ford Coppola
April 7, 1939 Film Director 1990 $67,400,000

Isaac Hayes
August 20, 1942 Singer, Actor 1976 $50,000,000

MC Hammer
March 30, 1962 Rapper 1996 $33,000,000

Wayne Newton
April 3, 1942 Singer, Actor 1992 $30,000,000

Burt Reynolds
February 11, 1936 Actor 1996 $30,000,000

P.T. Barnum
July 5, 1810 Showman
1856
$25,000,000

Mick Fleetwood
June 24, 1947 Musician, Activist
1984
$25,000,000

Randy Quaid
October 1, 1950 Actor
2000
$25,000,000

Stan Lee
December 28, 1922 Founder of Marvel
2000
$20,000,000

Abraham Lincoln
February 12, 1809 President
1833
$18,400,000

John Connally
February 27, 1917 Govenor of Texas
1988
$11,000,000

Heidi Fleiss
December 30, 1965 Hollywood Madame
1998
$10,000,000

Perez Hilton
March 23, 1978 Blogger
2005
$10,000,000

Buffalo Bill
February 26, 1846 Showman
1913
$8,000,000

William McKinley
January 29, 1843 President
1893
$7,500,000

Jerry Lee Lewis
September 29, 1935 Singer, Songwriter, Pianist
1988
$5,000,000

Benedict Arnold
January 14, 1741 Major General
1779
$2,500,000


:D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by red baron on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:34pm
Gregg dear boy you haven't been paying attention.

I have already state on another post here that Donald Trump borrowed $14 million from his father to start his business.

In 1971 he inherited $200 million from his dad's estate

He is currently worth $3 billion dollars..so I guess he did learn from those bankruptcies huh? ;)

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:36pm

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:34pm:
Gregg dear boy you haven't been paying attention.

I have already state on another post here that Donald Trump borrowed $14 million from his father to start his business.

In 1971 he inherited $200 million from his dad's estate

He is currently worth $3 billion dollars..so I guess he did learn from those bankruptcies huh? ;)



Index funds are friend, not foe.
Trump’s net worth has grown about 300% to an estimated $4 billion since 1987, according to a report by the Associated Press. But the real estate mogul would have made even more money if he had just invested in index funds. The AP says that, if Trump had invested in an index fund in 1988, his net worth would be as much as $13 billion.


http://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/


So not that great

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by cods on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:24pm:

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
But Trump knows how to run a business and make it profitable. He sure as hell will knows how to deal with the indescribable national debt of America.


Apples and oranges.

To compare the two is ludicrous.

However, if you insist on going down that track:

1. Trump isn’t a self-made man. Trump took over his father’s business, and he inherited money when his father died.

2. Four of his businesses have filed for bankruptcy.

And:




greg you should have watched the show on SBS what a pity you dont watch free to air.. it was an eye opener....and do you know how he makes his money today....??????>.....he is one clever dude...no you dont have to like him he doesnt give a toss if you dont...he will always be richer than you..

as for Hillary she has her hand in other people pockets and takes money from anyone a bit like a prostitute...

mmmmmmmmmmm not a good character at all.I do think she has more flaws than trump...

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by red baron on Nov 8th, 2016 at 2:12pm
Over the past 8 years Trump has made hundreds of millions..over the past 8 years Obama doubled the national debt of America trillions of dollars. (Today’s Federal Debt of the U.S.A. is $19,790,136,330,003.19.)


I rest my case

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Panther on Nov 8th, 2016 at 2:36pm

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:30pm:
30 Entrepreneurs Who Went Bankrupt then went on to success

Name Birthdate Profession Bankruptcy Date Eventual Net Worth


Henry Ford
July 30, 1863 Founder of Ford Motor 1903 $188,000,000,000

Donald Trump
June 14, 1946 Real Estate Developer 1990 $3,000,000,000

Walt Disney
December 5, 1901 Founder of Disney 1921 $1,100,000,000

Anna Nicole Smith
November 28, 1967 Model, Actress 1996 $450,000,000

H.J. Heinz
October 11, 1844 Founder of Heinz 1875 $400,000,000

George Foreman
January 5, 1949 Boxer/Grill Spokesman 1983 $300,000,000

Bob Guccione
December 17, 1930 Founder of Penthouse 2003 $400,000,000

Kim Basinger
December 8, 1953 Actress 1993 $250,000,000

Clarence Saunders
August 9, 1881 Founder of Piggly Wigglies (Now Safeway) 1922 $180,000,000

Milton Hershey
September 13, 1857 Founder of Hershey 1880 $150,000,000

Larry King
November 19, 1933 News Anchor 1978 $144,000,000

William C. Durant
December 8, 1861 Founder of General Motors and Chevrolet 1936 $120,000,000

Ulysses S. Grant
April 27, 1822 President 1881 $95,100,000

Francis Ford Coppola
April 7, 1939 Film Director 1990 $67,400,000

Isaac Hayes
August 20, 1942 Singer, Actor 1976 $50,000,000

MC Hammer
March 30, 1962 Rapper 1996 $33,000,000

Wayne Newton
April 3, 1942 Singer, Actor 1992 $30,000,000

Burt Reynolds
February 11, 1936 Actor 1996 $30,000,000

P.T. Barnum
July 5, 1810 Showman
1856
$25,000,000

Mick Fleetwood
June 24, 1947 Musician, Activist
1984
$25,000,000

Randy Quaid
October 1, 1950 Actor
2000
$25,000,000

Stan Lee
December 28, 1922 Founder of Marvel
2000
$20,000,000

Abraham Lincoln
February 12, 1809 President
1833
$18,400,000

John Connally
February 27, 1917 Govenor of Texas
1988
$11,000,000

Heidi Fleiss
December 30, 1965 Hollywood Madame
1998
$10,000,000

Perez Hilton
March 23, 1978 Blogger
2005
$10,000,000

Buffalo Bill
February 26, 1846 Showman
1913
$8,000,000

William McKinley
January 29, 1843 President
1893
$7,500,000

Jerry Lee Lewis
September 29, 1935 Singer, Songwriter, Pianist
1988
$5,000,000

Benedict Arnold
January 14, 1741 Major General
1779
$2,500,000


:D :D :D :D :D




Some, but not all, of Trump's many Successful Businesses.......



Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 8th, 2016 at 2:41pm
Haha  Ann Coulter just posted the following on Twitter

If only people with at least 4 grandparents born in America were allowed to vote, Trump would in a 50 state landslide.


Seriously.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Panther on Nov 8th, 2016 at 2:46pm
Oh, & just to be completely fair......

Here's a COMPLETE   List of Trump's Business Disasters

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Marla on Nov 8th, 2016 at 2:52pm
You Aussies are obsessed with this election.


OBSESSED

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by red baron on Nov 8th, 2016 at 2:52pm
Yes it is the entrepreneurs who make business what it is.. the trick is to succeed more often than you fail..just ask Benjamin Franklin or the Wright brothers.........

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 8th, 2016 at 2:53pm

Marla wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 2:52pm:
You Aussies are obsessed with this election.


OBSESSED



nfortunately, the US election tends to affect matters worldwide more than say the Aussie election.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by red baron on Nov 8th, 2016 at 2:58pm
Yes Marla because if Hillary Clinton gets in the world is in for a sh.tstorm  of mammoth proportions

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Raven on Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:16pm

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 12:58pm:
When one looks at Obama's Legacy...just what did he achieve? Obama Helath care?


The first bill President Obama signed was the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, to help women fight back when they don't get equal pay for equal work.

His Recovery Act supported millions of jobs and helped to stave off a second Great Depression.

He pushed for and won middle class tax cuts that benefited every American worker, and saved the typical family $3,600 in taxes over the last four years.

He doubled funding for Pell Grants, helping to make college more affordable for nearly 10 million families.

His student loan reform ended billions in subsidies to banks serving as middlemen and reinvested those savings directly in students.

The President established the American Opportunity Tax Credit, worth up to $10,000 over four years of college.

His Race to the Top Initiative helped spur nearly every state to raise academic standards.

His tax cuts, social-welfare programs, and economic policies lifted nearly 7 million Americans above the federal poverty line in 2010.

President Obama has signed more 18 tax cuts for small businesses since taking office.

The unemployment rate is at 4.9%

Health care reform—passed after decades of failed attempts by every previous president—provides affordable health coverage to every American and will lower premiums by an average of $2,000 per family by 2019.

Obamacare expanded access to lifesaving preventive care such as cancer screenings and immunizations with no out-of-pocket costs for 54 million Americans.

Obamacare ends insurance discrimination against the 129 million Americans with pre-existing conditions.

Because of Obamacare, over 3 million more young adults have health insurance today than would if the new law hadn't passed.

The parents of over 17 million children with pre-existing conditions no longer have to worry that their children will be denied coverage.

President Obama has ordered the overhaul of federal government regulations to make them smarter, practical, and more efficient. Just a fraction of these common-sense initiatives will help save businesses $10 billion in the next five years alone.

His investments in clean energy have helped more than double the amount of electricity America obtains from wind and solar sources and helped increase biofuel production to its highest level in history.

Obama is doubled fuel efficiency standards, which will save drivers more than $8,000 at the gas pump, not to mention lessen the impact of automobiles on our environment.

Obama took unprecedented action to address climate change, reaching historic international agreements to curb carbon emissions, and taking action in America to reduce carbon pollution from vehicles and promote clean energy production.

He has taken action to protect our environment—signing one of the largest expansions of protected wilderness in a generation and putting in place standards to reduce toxic air pollution that will save thousands of lives.

President Obama fought for and won landmark Wall Street reform that reins in the abuses that led to the financial crisis and ends the era of taxpayer bailouts and "too big to fail."

Wall Street reform created the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, the nation's first federal agency focused solely on consumer financial protection—and the Bureau is already protecting families from unfair and abusive financial practices from Wall Street banks and shadowy corners of the financial industry.

Obama's all-of-the-above approach to energy has helped cut the United States' dependence on foreign oil to its lowest level in 20 years.

Obama rallied the international community to implement the toughest sanctions on Iran in history.

Through the President's historic increases in Veterans Affairs funding, he has expanded and improved healthcare and job training access for returning veterans.

Obama negotiated the New START Treaty with Russia to reduce the number of nuclear weapons in both countries. At the same time, he also secured commitments from dozens of other countries to lock down nuclear materials.

His administration naturalized 11,146 military service members as U.S. citizens in 2010; more than in any year since 1955.

He affirmed his personal support of marriage equality, directed the Justice Department to stop defending DOMA in federal courts, and took the practical and compassionate step of extending hospital visitation rights to same-sex partners.

He repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell", allowing gay and lesbian members of the military to serve openly for the first time in history.


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Sprintcyclist on Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:17pm

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 2:12pm:
Over the past 8 years Trump has made hundreds of millions..over the past 8 years Obama doubled the national debt of America trillions of dollars. (Today’s Federal Debt of the U.S.A. is $19,790,136,330,003.19.)


I rest my case



X 2

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:21pm
This one is for you Red, a top American cop backs Trump.

twitter.com/SheriffClarke

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Raven on Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:23pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:17pm:

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 2:12pm:
Over the past 8 years Trump has made hundreds of millions..over the past 8 years Obama doubled the national debt of America trillions of dollars. (Today’s Federal Debt of the U.S.A. is $19,790,136,330,003.19.)


I rest my case



X 2


He also owes hundreds of millions of dollars to the Bank of "Jhina"

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:25pm

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:30pm:
30 Entrepreneurs Who Went Bankrupt then went on to success

Name Birthdate Profession Bankruptcy Date Eventual Net Worth


Henry Ford
July 30, 1863 Founder of Ford Motor 1903 $188,000,000,000

Donald Trump
June 14, 1946 Real Estate Developer 1990 $3,000,000,000

Walt Disney
December 5, 1901 Founder of Disney 1921 $1,100,000,000

Anna Nicole Smith
November 28, 1967 Model, Actress 1996 $450,000,000

H.J. Heinz
October 11, 1844 Founder of Heinz 1875 $400,000,000

George Foreman
January 5, 1949 Boxer/Grill Spokesman 1983 $300,000,000

Bob Guccione
December 17, 1930 Founder of Penthouse 2003 $400,000,000

Kim Basinger
December 8, 1953 Actress 1993 $250,000,000

Clarence Saunders
August 9, 1881 Founder of Piggly Wigglies (Now Safeway) 1922 $180,000,000

Milton Hershey
September 13, 1857 Founder of Hershey 1880 $150,000,000

Larry King
November 19, 1933 News Anchor 1978 $144,000,000

William C. Durant
December 8, 1861 Founder of General Motors and Chevrolet 1936 $120,000,000

Ulysses S. Grant
April 27, 1822 President 1881 $95,100,000

Francis Ford Coppola
April 7, 1939 Film Director 1990 $67,400,000

Isaac Hayes
August 20, 1942 Singer, Actor 1976 $50,000,000

MC Hammer
March 30, 1962 Rapper 1996 $33,000,000

Wayne Newton
April 3, 1942 Singer, Actor 1992 $30,000,000

Burt Reynolds
February 11, 1936 Actor 1996 $30,000,000

P.T. Barnum
July 5, 1810 Showman
1856
$25,000,000

Mick Fleetwood
June 24, 1947 Musician, Activist
1984
$25,000,000

Randy Quaid
October 1, 1950 Actor
2000
$25,000,000

Stan Lee
December 28, 1922 Founder of Marvel
2000
$20,000,000

Abraham Lincoln
February 12, 1809 President
1833
$18,400,000

John Connally
February 27, 1917 Govenor of Texas
1988
$11,000,000

Heidi Fleiss
December 30, 1965 Hollywood Madame
1998
$10,000,000

Perez Hilton
March 23, 1978 Blogger
2005
$10,000,000

Buffalo Bill
February 26, 1846 Showman
1913
$8,000,000

William McKinley
January 29, 1843 President
1893
$7,500,000

Jerry Lee Lewis
September 29, 1935 Singer, Songwriter, Pianist
1988
$5,000,000

Benedict Arnold
January 14, 1741 Major General
1779
$2,500,000


:D :D :D :D :D


I don't see many who went on to be POTUS.

Running a country is nothing like running a business.

Surely you must understand that?


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:26pm

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:34pm:
Gregg dear boy you haven't been paying attention.

I have already state on another post here that Donald Trump borrowed $14 million from his father to start his business.

In 1971 he inherited $200 million from his dad's estate

He is currently worth $3 billion dollars..so I guess he did learn from those bankruptcies huh? ;)


Completely irrelevant when it comes to being POTUS.


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Redmond Neck on Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:36pm
5'30" until election day polls open New York !


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Raven on Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:41pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:11pm:

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:07pm:
You need to read this before you have dinner so you don't get indigestion!

Today’s Federal Debt is $19,790,136,330,003.19.

The amount is the gross outstanding federal debt issued by the United States Department of the Treasury since 1790.

But, it doesn’t include state and local debt.

And, it doesn’t include so-called “agency debt.”

And, it doesn’t include the so-called unfunded liabilities of entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicare.

Federal Debt per person is about $60,650.




Again, how is Trump planning to deal with this?


Trump' plan to handle the debt is printing more money.

And he is floating an insane idea that would tank the US economy.

He said he would approach financing the U.S. government like it’s one of his failing casinos.

He said, as president, he’d find ways to renegotiate the public debt and pay less than 100 cents on the dollar if the economy went bad.


Quote:
I’ve borrowed knowing that you can pay back with discounts. I would borrow knowing that if the economy crashed, you could make a deal.


Some corporate finance deals really do work like this: You issue risky debt, and the lenders know you might not be able to pay them back in full if something really bad happens. But that kind of debt bears a high interest rate, because the lenders know you might not be able to pay them back in full if something really bad happens.

U.S. Treasury bonds have very low interest rates because investors are extremely confident they will be paid in full, even in poor economic conditions. Trump, by openly saying he would keep partial payment on the table as an option, could spark a crisis in the Treasury markets if he became president. Investors would cease to see Treasuries as a safe asset and demand higher interest rates in exchange for risk.

Trump is suggesting America's debts are unpayable (which is untrue) so if you’re going to default anyway, you might as well borrow what you can while you still have access to the credit markets.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by issuevoter on Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:45pm
Yep, Destiny. Gonna get us right between the eyes! I'm digging my apocalypse bunker as fast as I can. Hey Goober, pop me another one them there pepsacolas, I'm sweatin' like ole Charlie Darwin on Judgmint Day.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:48pm

cods wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:24pm:

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
But Trump knows how to run a business and make it profitable. He sure as hell will knows how to deal with the indescribable national debt of America.


Apples and oranges.

To compare the two is ludicrous.

However, if you insist on going down that track:

1. Trump isn’t a self-made man. Trump took over his father’s business, and he inherited money when his father died.

2. Four of his businesses have filed for bankruptcy.

And:




greg you should have watched the show on SBS what a pity you dont watch free to air.. it was an eye opener....and do you know how he makes his money today....??????>.....he is one clever dude...no you dont have to like him he doesnt give a toss if you dont...he will always be richer than you.....


Wealth doesn't impress me, cods.

No matter how much money he has, he will never be a decent person.

I know people without a cent to their name who are far better people than him.

The man doesn't have a single redeeming feature.

When he loses the election tomorrow, i'll be celebrating really hard.

Might even take the day off tomorrow to watch it all unfold.

Might need Thursday off to recover.




Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:48pm:

cods wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:24pm:

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
But Trump knows how to run a business and make it profitable. He sure as hell will knows how to deal with the indescribable national debt of America.


Apples and oranges.

To compare the two is ludicrous.

However, if you insist on going down that track:

1. Trump isn’t a self-made man. Trump took over his father’s business, and he inherited money when his father died.

2. Four of his businesses have filed for bankruptcy.

And:




greg you should have watched the show on SBS what a pity you dont watch free to air.. it was an eye opener....and do you know how he makes his money today....??????>.....he is one clever dude...no you dont have to like him he doesnt give a toss if you dont...he will always be richer than you.....


Wealth doesn't impress me, cods.

No matter how much money he has, he will never be a decent person.

I know people without a cent to their name who are far better people than him.

The man doesn't have a single redeeming feature.

When he loses the election tomorrow, i'll be celebrating really hard.

Might even take the day off tomorrow to watch it all unfold.

Might need Thursday off to recover.
Money doesn't impress you hey. Why doesn't Rooty Hill impress you then? You love money Pecca.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 8th, 2016 at 4:00pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:51pm:
Money doesn't impress you hey.

Not in the slightest.

There are many more important things in the world.


Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:51pm:
Why doesn't Rooty Hill impress you then?

I haven't been, Homo.

Would I be impressed?


Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:51pm:
You love money Pecca.

I love some of the things it can get me.

I don't love money, though.


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by red baron on Nov 8th, 2016 at 5:00pm
Raven is totally incorrect...where does  'printing money' come from. Perhaps the same place as Hillary Clinton declaring a tax on the rich will solve America's debt problem..what a total joke that is and...she has said that.

Trumps plan is as I have said already in this site...place 45% tariff on imported goods..particularly read China.  Then...reduce company tax by 30%. This will stimulate industry to grow and be able to compete again.

That means growth of industry in the U.S. that means jobs and that transfers into profits and that means the U.S. reaps a broad based tax windfall as a result of a growing economy...Raven would you care to tell me what part of that plan involves 'printing money'...really where do you get this stuff. :D


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Frank on Nov 8th, 2016 at 5:17pm
It will be Trexit.
But in any case, Trump has already won - he is setting the agenda, not Hillary.



Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by mothra on Nov 8th, 2016 at 5:32pm

Frank wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 5:17pm:
It will be Trexit.
But in any case, Trump has already won - he is setting the agenda, not Hillary.


Lol... are you in for a surprise.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 8th, 2016 at 5:35pm

Frank wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 5:17pm:
It will be Trexit.


It sure will.

Tomorrow, Trump exits the presidential race as the loser.

Champagne on the chill.



Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Raven on Nov 8th, 2016 at 6:03pm

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 5:00pm:
Raven is totally incorrect...where does  'printing money' come from. Perhaps the same place as Hillary Clinton declaring a tax on the rich will solve America's debt problem..what a total joke that is and...she has said that.

Trumps plan is as I have said already in this site...place 45% tariff on imported goods..particularly read China.  Then...reduce company tax by 30%. This will stimulate industry to grow and be able to compete again.

That means growth of industry in the U.S. that means jobs and that transfers into profits and that means the U.S. reaps a broad based tax windfall as a result of a growing economy...Raven would you care to tell me what part of that plan involves 'printing money'...really where do you get this stuff. :D


Trump


Quote:
First of all, you never have to default because you print the money


Now by doing this America will not default on its debts. The government can print more money to repay the debts, which would cause inflation but not a default.

45% tariff on China? No doubt a president Trump will threaten them with it, then decide it won't be necessary. This will be announced shortly after the hundreds of millions of dollars he owes the Chinese government has been miraculously written off.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Raven on Nov 8th, 2016 at 6:24pm
Let's look at Trumps tax plan

Trump would simplify the tax code but cut taxes mainly for the rich.

Trump’s tax cuts would be the deepest ever, reducing revenue $6.2 trillion in the first decade and mostly benefiting corporations and the highest-income Americans. Some middle-income families, however, would receive a tax increase.

With interest, the cost would be $7.2 trillion over 10 years, nearly doubling the growth in the federal debt that is otherwise projected. The cost would build in subsequent decades, though Trump denounces the size of the debt at nearly every campaign appearance.

The Trump plan would give the richest 0.1 percent of taxpayers — those with incomes of more than $3.7 million this year — an average tax cut of $1.1 million, for a 14 percent increase on average in their after-tax income. The middle one-fifth of Americans by income would receive a tax cut increasing after-tax income less than 2 percent, on average, while the poorest fifth would get a break of less than 1 percent.

Mr. Trump would reduce the top marginal tax rate for individuals, now 39.6 percent, to 33 percent, and the corporate rate to 15 percent from 35 percent.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Redmond Neck on Nov 8th, 2016 at 6:54pm

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 5:00pm:
Raven is totally incorrect...where does  'printing money' come from. Perhaps the same place as Hillary Clinton declaring a tax on the rich will solve America's debt problem..what a total joke that is and...she has said that.

Trumps plan is as I have said already in this site...place 45% tariff on imported goods..particularly read China.  Then...reduce company tax by 30%. This will stimulate industry to grow and be able to compete again.

That means growth of industry in the U.S. that means jobs and that transfers into profits and that means the U.S. reaps a broad based tax windfall as a result of a growing economy...Raven would you care to tell me what part of that plan involves 'printing money'...really where do you get this stuff. :D


So Red Baron

What will be the reaction to this from China?

Think about it!


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Redmond Neck on Nov 8th, 2016 at 6:57pm

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 5:00pm:
Then...reduce company tax by 30%. This will stimulate industry to grow and be able to compete again.


A very debateable theory Mr Red Baron

What happens when the economy suddenly loses all this income?

Should the government shut down a lot of services due to the shortfall?

Lots of people out of work!

How sad Mr Red Baron





Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Redmond Neck on Nov 8th, 2016 at 7:02pm

Raven wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 6:24pm:
Mr. Trump would reduce the top marginal tax rate for individuals, now 39.6 percent, to 33 percent, and the corporate rate to 15 percent from 35 percent.


Oh sh1t Mr Red Baron!

Running out of money again!

That should really help the  country to provide its goods and services to the public!

He sure is a wanker!   ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)





Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Fireball on Nov 8th, 2016 at 7:07pm
You need professional help Mr Redmond Rabbit, you're talking to yourself, and what's worse you seem to be answering your own questions.  ::) ::) :-/

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Panther on Nov 9th, 2016 at 8:35am

Fuzzball wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 7:07pm:
You need professional help Mr Redmond Rabbit, you're talking to yourself, and what's worse you seem to be answering your own questions.  ::) ::) :-/


With bogus, beyond reality, theory......Who provides jobs?....the rich do....financially well off corporations do....financially strapped & over taxed corporations do not employ anyone....

Socialized Class Envy/Warfare is a for sure job killer.

Teach people to be independent of government through personal responsibility, rather than dependent on government to fulfill their every want & need.

Governmental sponsored Socialism is a surefire pathway to slavery, just with different masters. We should be the masters of our own destiny. When we stumble we need a hand up, & not a hand out.


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by John Smith on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:07am

Panther wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 8:35am:
Who provides jobs?....the rich do


the rich don't provide jobs because they are altruistic, the rich provide jobs so they can get more rich. to pay tax they're already making money. It's not like they're going to walk away from that because they don't want to pay taxes

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Marla on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:12am
Looks like the US of motherbuggering A is voting for an end to white male privilege


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:14am

Marla wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:12am:
Looks like the US of motherbuggering A is voting for an end to white male privilege



And orange.


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by jmjcare on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:17am
https://www.rt.com/on-air/

US election.......

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Marla on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:19am

Colorado (9) - Hillary
Florida (29) - Hillary
Iowa (6) - dayglo orange fat boy
Michigan (16) -Hillary
Nevada (6) - iffy but most likely dayglo orange fat boy
New Hampshire (4) - Hillary
North Carolina (15) - dayglo orange fat boy
Ohio (18) - dayglo orange fat boy
Pennsylvania (20) - Hillary
Virginia (13) dayglo orange fat boy
Wisconsin (10) - dayglo orange fat boy

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by John Smith on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:19am

jmjcare wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:17am:
https://www.rt.com/on-air/

US election.......



Polling station on lockdown after shooting leaves 2 injured in Azuza, CA


seems they take their elections a little to seriously  :-[

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Belgarion on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:20am
Why are those people desecrating a grave?

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Marla on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:21am
Virginia may go to Hillary - just iffy.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Panther on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:21am

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:07am:

Panther wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 8:35am:
Who provides jobs?....the rich do


the rich don't provide jobs because they are altruistic, the rich provide jobs so they can get more rich.......


And rightfully so, it's called incentive....hire more people, produce more, sell more, make more profit. It's a circle, where everyone is scratching the backs of the guy before them.

Who gives a rats ass if the owners become uber-wealthy?.....good on them, just as long as we the people continue to benefit by what trickles down to us.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:21am

Belgarion wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:20am:
Why are those people desecrating a grave?


Where?    :-/

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by mothra on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:21am

Belgarion wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:20am:
Why are those people desecrating a grave?



They are not desecrating a grave.

They are glorifying it.

You do know who's grave it is,  don't you?

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Marla on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:22am

Belgarion wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:20am:
Why are those people desecrating a grave?

Why don't you go bugger yourself with a chainsaw? Asshole.


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by John Smith on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:22am

Panther wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:21am:
just as long as we the people continue to benefit by what trickles down to us.



;D ;D ;D
you still drinking the cool-aid?

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:24am

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 2:12pm:
Over the past 8 years Trump has made hundreds of millions..over the past 8 years Obama doubled the national debt of America trillions of dollars. (Today’s Federal Debt of the U.S.A. is $19,790,136,330,003.19.)


I rest my case


It's not much of a case. Obama inherited an economy in deep recession and on the verge of DEPRESSION. To have fixed that and created a now growing economy is a massive acheivement. Yes, it cost money, but trying to not spend money is what made the great depression last ten years. Spending money is what ended it.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:25am

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:24am:

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 2:12pm:
Over the past 8 years Trump has made hundreds of millions..over the past 8 years Obama doubled the national debt of America trillions of dollars. (Today’s Federal Debt of the U.S.A. is $19,790,136,330,003.19.)


I rest my case


It's not much of a case. Obama inherited an economy in deep recession and on the verge of DEPRESSION. To have fixed that and created a now growing economy is a massive acheivement. Yes, it cost money, but trying to not spend money is what made the great depression last ten years. Spending money is what ended it.



Socialist ;)

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:28am

Marla wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 2:52pm:
You Aussies are obsessed with this election.


OBSESSED


If Trump screws the american economy - as he would - or if he destablised the geopolitical state of the planet - which he would - you think it wouldnt affect us?

We are both obsessed and fascinated in how the USA gets to vote for one of the most unliked candidates and the least qualified candidates.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:29am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:25am:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:24am:

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 2:12pm:
Over the past 8 years Trump has made hundreds of millions..over the past 8 years Obama doubled the national debt of America trillions of dollars. (Today’s Federal Debt of the U.S.A. is $19,790,136,330,003.19.)


I rest my case


It's not much of a case. Obama inherited an economy in deep recession and on the verge of DEPRESSION. To have fixed that and created a now growing economy is a massive acheivement. Yes, it cost money, but trying to not spend money is what made the great depression last ten years. Spending money is what ended it.



Socialist ;)


Not sure of your point, but the Great Depression showed that you actually can spend your way out of one. The problem is what comes next which should be paying down the debt... which doesnt always happen - here included.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Panther on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:31am

Marla wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:12am:
Looks like the US of motherbuggering A is voting for an end to white male privilege



Or, it's a Clinton supporter, exercising her constitutional right to vote, again, & again, & again, & again..........well past her use by date.  ;)

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:32am

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:29am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:25am:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:24am:

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 2:12pm:
Over the past 8 years Trump has made hundreds of millions..over the past 8 years Obama doubled the national debt of America trillions of dollars. (Today’s Federal Debt of the U.S.A. is $19,790,136,330,003.19.)


I rest my case


It's not much of a case. Obama inherited an economy in deep recession and on the verge of DEPRESSION. To have fixed that and created a now growing economy is a massive acheivement. Yes, it cost money, but trying to not spend money is what made the great depression last ten years. Spending money is what ended it.



Socialist ;)


Not sure of your point, but the Great Depression showed that you actually can spend your way out of one. The problem is what comes next which should be paying down the debt... which doesnt always happen - here included.



I'm just saying its more a leftist view in terms of spending but you are right, it has worked. Even Howard said he agreed with Rudds measure, he just wouldnt have spent so much.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:33am

Panther wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:31am:

Marla wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:12am:
Looks like the US of motherbuggering A is voting for an end to white male privilege



Or, it's a Clinton supporter, exercising her constitutional right to vote, again, & again, & again, & again..........well past her use by date.  ;)




Boy how lucky is that, we've found one of the 35 credible voter frauds out of 800 million votes in the last 16 years.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Panther on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:35am

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:29am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:25am:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:24am:

red baron wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 2:12pm:
Over the past 8 years Trump has made hundreds of millions..over the past 8 years Obama doubled the national debt of America trillions of dollars. (Today’s Federal Debt of the U.S.A. is $19,790,136,330,003.19.)


I rest my case


It's not much of a case. Obama inherited an economy in deep recession and on the verge of DEPRESSION. To have fixed that and created a now growing economy is a massive acheivement. Yes, it cost money, but trying to not spend money is what made the great depression last ten years. Spending money is what ended it.



Socialist ;)


Not sure of your point, but the Great Depression showed that you actually can spend your way out of one. The problem is what comes next which should be paying down the debt... which doesnt always happen - here included.


Or, as with the Great Depression.......World War II, which lifted America out of the depression.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by John Smith on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:36am

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:19am:
[quote author=jmjcare link=1478573881/53#53 date=1478647069]https://www.rt.com/on-air/

US election.......



Polling station on lockdown after shooting leaves 2 injured in Azuza, CA


seems they take their elections a little to seriously  :-[/quote]

ahh ... typical. A thrump supporter



@AzusaPD my sister in law is in lockdown at polling place. She saw shooter. Slightly overweight, bald white male. White shirt, black vest.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Marla on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:37am

Panther wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:31am:

Marla wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:12am:
Looks like the US of motherbuggering A is voting for an end to white male privilege



Or, it's a Clinton supporter, exercising her constitutional right to vote, again, & again, & again, & again..........well past her use by date.  ;)



You're beyond the pale of tediousness now.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Marla on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:39am

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:28am:
If Trump screws the american economy - as he would - or if he destablised the geopolitical state of the planet - which he would - you think it wouldnt affect us?

We are both obsessed and fascinated in how the USA gets to vote for one of the most unliked candidates and the least qualified candidates.




Problem is, these American elections are stressing you Aussies out. No more for you after this one.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by John Smith on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:40am
George W Bush votes 'None of the Above' for president
Neither George W Bush nor his father George HW Bush, both former Republican presidents, have chosen to endorse Donald Trump, a spokesman has told Reuters news agency.

George W Bush and his wife, Laura, "voted 'None of the Above' for president", spokesman Freddy Ford said in an email. Mr and Mrs Bush did vote for Republicans in down-ballot races.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-08/polls-open-in-us-election-trump-clinton-live/8006596


Even the republicans aren't voting for him  :D :D
;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:40am

Marla wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:39am:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:28am:
If Trump screws the american economy - as he would - or if he destablised the geopolitical state of the planet - which he would - you think it wouldnt affect us?

We are both obsessed and fascinated in how the USA gets to vote for one of the most unliked candidates and the least qualified candidates.




Problem is, these American elections are stressing you Aussies out. No more for you after this one.




Well not our fault you people cant be trusted.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by John Smith on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:41am

Marla wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:39am:
Problem is, these American elections are stressing you Aussies out. No more for you after this one.


perhaps you yanks need to find better candidates next time?

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Panther on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:45am

Marla wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:39am:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:28am:
If Trump screws the american economy - as he would - or if he destablised the geopolitical state of the planet - which he would - you think it wouldnt affect us?

We are both obsessed and fascinated in how the USA gets to vote for one of the most unliked candidates and the least qualified candidates.




Problem is, these American elections are stressing you Aussies out. No more for you after this one.


See, Marla is cool, calm, & collected...... .......stoned mind you, but still cool, calm, & collected.

Why?

Because as an American she knows full well that regardless who wins it will be a horrible choice, but on the flip side she also knows that for over 230 years America has always successfully survived it's share "Bad Presidents"......usually quite well too
.


10 minutes until the first Poll Closings......  The exit polls are scaring the bejisis out of the left!



Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Marla on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:47am
What gets me is how eerily quiet it is right now. Usually there is the drone of rush hour traffic but not too many cars currently on the road.

Who knows? Maybe California did legalize weed and they all went back home*





*fingers crossed.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Marla on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:50am

Panther wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:45am:
See, Marla is cool, calm, & collected...... .......stoned mind you, but still cool, calm, & collected.

Why?

Because as an American she knows full well that regardless who wins it will be a horrible choice, but on the flip side she also knows that for over 230 years America has always successfully survived it's share "Bad Presidents"......usually quite well too
.


I ended up talking to two Trump supporters this morning while out jogging. Both were white, male, over 40, over weight and both claimed to be former F.B.I and military. They were full of poo of course but I was surprised how much we had in common when we talked about the state in which America has been headed but they both stopped short not wanting to acknowledge capitalism as the reason.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Marla on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:51am

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:41am:

Marla wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:39am:
Problem is, these American elections are stressing you Aussies out. No more for you after this one.


perhaps you yanks need to find better candidates next time?




When America finally embraces socialism we will.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by John Smith on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:54am

Marla wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:51am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:41am:

Marla wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:39am:
Problem is, these American elections are stressing you Aussies out. No more for you after this one.


perhaps you yanks need to find better candidates next time?




When America finally embraces socialism we will.


you should run for office Marla, it's not like you can stuff the country up much more than it is.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Marla on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:58am
I'm not that corrupt.


I'm trying to watch the ABC Australian newsfeed to get a international perspective but all they have is a bunch of brain dead Americans spewing the typical nonsense.

Screw the BBC. That French one has us Americans down.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by mothra on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:59am
Did anyone take Greg up pn his bet?

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by John Smith on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:01am

mothra wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:59am:
Did anyone take Greg up pn his bet?


nope

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Panther on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:06am

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:01am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:59am:
Did anyone take Greg up pn his bet?


nope


Because the people here aren't so cavalier with tossing their Freedom of Speech as he is. He's a disgrace to all Australia, so willing to toss a freedom that so many brave people died protecting. >:(

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:06am

mothra wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:59am:
Did anyone take Greg up on his bet?


Cowards. Every last one of them.


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Marla on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:08am
I'm watching Maine, California, Nevada, and Arizona - for the obvious reasons.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by John Smith on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:09am

Panther wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:06am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:01am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:59am:
Did anyone take Greg up pn his bet?


nope


Because the people here aren't so cavalier with tossing their Freedom of Speech as he is. He's a disgrace to all Australia, so willing to toss a freedom that so many brave people died protecting. >:(


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
you did yourself no favours with that rant :D :D

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Panther on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:12am
..






I wonder what he said......actually, I couldn't give a royal rats ass!


..

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:20am

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:09am:

Panther wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:06am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:01am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:59am:
Did anyone take Greg up pn his bet?


nope


Because the people here aren't so cavalier with tossing their Freedom of Speech as he is. He's a disgrace to all Australia, so willing to toss a freedom that so many brave people died protecting. >:(


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
you did yourself no favours with that rant :D :D


He's admitted that Trump will lose   ;D

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:32am

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by John Smith on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:35am
Trump is projected to have won Indiana (11) and Kentucky (8), while Clinton is projected to have won Vermont (3).


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by issuevoter on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:43am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:06am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:59am:
Did anyone take Greg up on his bet?


Cowards. Every last one of them.


So what are you going to do, brave guy? Report them to your special friends?

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by cods on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:44am

Marla wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:47am:
What gets me is how eerily quiet it is right now. Usually there is the drone of rush hour traffic but not too many cars currently on the road.

Who knows? Maybe California did legalize weed and they all went back home*





*fingers crossed.



I think there is one GIANT SHADOW hanging over the USA....and it aint pretty....either way you are in for a bumpy ride..I would say....

you cannot even tell how many will vote.. so this time round huge groups of people who have probably never voted in their lives are out there voting this time and will probably change the real outcome although in general they have never had the slightest interest in who runs your country in the past...

a bit like our preference system....its those you dont actually vote for and want in govt that get in.. :) :) :)

so good luck with that... at least you have brought the rest of the world to a standstill I wonder is ISIS is tuned in... :( :(

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by cods on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:45am
has anyone asked Greg what he thinks????? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 9th, 2016 at 11:04am

issuevoter wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:06am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:59am:
Did anyone take Greg up on his bet?


Cowards. Every last one of them.


So what are you going to do, brave guy?


Nothing.

I'll just remember that they're cowards, and remind them of it every now and then.

I'll be rubbing Hillary's win in their face for quite some time yet.


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Bias_2012 on Nov 9th, 2016 at 11:09am
I'll go off Ozpolitics for a year if Clinton wins, Peccary must do the same if Trump wins. I'll honor the bet

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 9th, 2016 at 11:12am

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 11:09am:
I'll go off Ozpolitics for a year if Clinton wins, Peccary must do the same if Trump wins. I'll honor the bet


No problem.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 9th, 2016 at 11:23am
8 million votes counted in Florida and Trump leads by.... 28 votes.

Methinks a Florida hanging-chad moment is upon us again.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 9th, 2016 at 11:25am

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 11:23am:
8 million votes counted in Florida and Trump leads by.... 28 votes.

Methinks a Florida hanging-chad moment is upon us again.



Maybe althugh it could be skewed by all the small counties being essentially Republican. Could be a while.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Panther on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:27pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 11:23am:
8 million votes counted in Florida and Trump leads by.... 28 votes.

Methinks a Florida hanging-chad moment is upon us again.



You information source needs to call the Florida Board of Elections:

The NY Times are on this like white on rice, & here's what they say:


Source:      NYTimes      
Quote:
About 9,318,736 votes have been counted already. Donald J. Trump leads in that count by about 1.4 points.


That's a little different than 28 vote me thinks.

9,318,736  x  .014  =   13,0462 votes

The NYTimes also goes on to say they believe there are only about 2,000 more votes to count.

A mandatory Florida recount would only take place if, based on the present numbers, the margin dipped below 4,000 or so votes.
;)



Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by John Smith on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:31pm
Canada immigration website crashes as Donald Trump takes lead in White House race

;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:33pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:31pm:
Canada immigration website crashes as Donald Trump takes lead in White House race

;D ;D ;D ;D


It's true.

I just tried it.


Quote:
This site can’t be reached

The connection was reset.
Try:
Checking the connection
Checking the proxy and the firewall
Running Windows Network Diagnostics


http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Marla on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:34pm
Well, bye-bye America. You had a good run while it lasted

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by cods on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:37pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 11:12am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 11:09am:
I'll go off Ozpolitics for a year if Clinton wins, Peccary must do the same if Trump wins. I'll honor the bet


No problem.



you know guys even the POLLS got it wrong.. talk about all bets are off.... do you think either trump or clinton give a stuff if you leave... of course they dont..

just time for one of you to eat humble pie I am thinking..

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by cods on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 11:04am:

issuevoter wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 10:06am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:59am:
Did anyone take Greg up on his bet?


Cowards. Every last one of them.


So what are you going to do, brave guy?


Nothing.

I'll just remember that they're cowards, and remind them of it every now and then.

I'll be rubbing Hillary's win in their face for quite some time yet.



well you can now expect some of the happy returns gweggy..

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by John Smith on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:39pm

Marla wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:34pm:
Well, bye-bye America. You had a good run while it lasted



what are your countrymen thinking? are they really that thick?

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:33pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:31pm:
Canada immigration website crashes as Donald Trump takes lead in White House race

;D ;D ;D ;D


It's true.

I just tried it.


Quote:
This site can’t be reached

The connection was reset.
Try:
Checking the connection
Checking the proxy and the firewall
Running Windows Network Diagnostics


http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/


The Canadians probably don't want all the leftard losers from the USA.

You lost your bet little pecca be a man and keep your word.

Time for you to piss off, good riddance.   :D :D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D

:) :) :) :) :) :)

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Panther on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:41pm

Marla wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:34pm:
Well, bye-bye America. You had a good run while it lasted


Sorry to see you leaving to Canada too?

Didn't know herbs are legal there too???


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Agnes on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:44pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:39pm:

Marla wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:34pm:
Well, bye-bye America. You had a good run while it lasted



what are your countrymen thinking? are they really that thick?

It seems most of them are..

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:46pm

Agnes wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:39pm:

Marla wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:34pm:
Well, bye-bye America. You had a good run while it lasted



what are your countrymen thinking? are they really that thick?

It seems most of them are..


Well, only 16% of them at this stage.


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Agnes on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:47pm

Panther wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:41pm:

Marla wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:34pm:
Well, bye-bye America. You had a good run while it lasted


Sorry to see you leaving to Canada too?

Didn't know herbs are legal there too???

The rest of the world will suffer because that scumbag pig swill doesnt have a fVking clue. The land of the redneck scum.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Agnes on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:46pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:39pm:

Marla wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:34pm:
Well, bye-bye America. You had a good run while it lasted



what are your countrymen thinking? are they really that thick?

It seems most of them are..


Well, only 16% of them at this stage.

16%- how so?

Title: Mr. Destiny...Donald j. Trump
Post by Panther on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:52pm

Winners are grinners!









Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:54pm

Agnes wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:46pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:39pm:

Marla wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:34pm:
Well, bye-bye America. You had a good run while it lasted



what are your countrymen thinking? are they really that thick?

It seems most of them are..


Well, only 16% of them at this stage.

16%- how so?


Out of 319 million, only 53 million Americans have actually voted for him.



Title: Mr. Destiny....Donald J. Trump
Post by Panther on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:46pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:39pm:

Marla wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:34pm:
Well, bye-bye America. You had a good run while it lasted



what are your countrymen thinking? are they really that thick?

It seems most of them are..


Well, only 16% of them at this stage.

16%- how so?


Out of 319 million, only 53 million Americans have actually voted for him.


And in all probability, when all the votes are counted, more Americans will have voted for Hillary Clinton, but Donald Trump will win.....Why?.....Because the USA is not a Democracy, it is a Constitutional Republic.....The will of the Majority does not hold weight in a U.S. Presidential Election according to U.S. Constitutional Law. ;)

BTW....319 million people in the USA......you do know to vote legally, a voter must be over 18 years of age to vote in America, don't you?



Title: Re: Mr. Destiny....Donald J. Trump
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:21pm

Panther wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:00pm:
BTW....319 million people in the USA......you do know to vote legally, a voter must be over 18 years of age to vote in America, don't you?


Yes, I know that.

Who mentioned eligible voters?

You mentioned the population of Australia, even though we aren't eligible to vote in the US election.

;)

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by red baron on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:55pm
Hey Gregg......Glory...glory...hallelujah...his truth goes marching on! EAT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!


Now it is time for he sleeping giant America to get up off the canvas. Something it will be able  to do now that  is free of the shackles of losers at the helm.

Title: Re: Mr. Destiny....Donald J. Trump
Post by Karnal on Nov 9th, 2016 at 5:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:21pm:

Panther wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:00pm:
BTW....319 million people in the USA......you do know to vote legally, a voter must be over 18 years of age to vote in America, don't you?


Yes, I know that.

Who mentioned eligible voters?

You mentioned the population of Australia, even though we aren't eligible to vote in the US election.

;)


What are you going to do, Greggery?

I might leave the board too. What's the point?

Lunacy now reigns.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by red baron on Nov 9th, 2016 at 5:20pm
Boo Hoo....Boo Hoo.....Boo Hoo....Booo Hoo.............. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by red baron on Nov 9th, 2016 at 5:21pm
There is a saying..The Winners can smile and the losers can suit themselves

Title: Re: Mr. Destiny....Donald J. Trump
Post by Panther on Nov 9th, 2016 at 5:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:21pm:

Panther wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:00pm:
BTW....319 million people in the USA......you do know to vote legally, a voter must be over 18 years of age to vote in America, don't you?


Yes, I know that.

Who mentioned eligible voters?

You mentioned the population of Australia, even though we aren't eligible to vote in the US election.

;)


Maybe I assumed you meant 16 million voters, so we were to consider eligible voters. Sorry to disturb your cry, but my mentioning our population here was only to measure the vote there in comparison. So, grab yer hankey lad, & give it your best.....

BTW....I did say, & I meant.....all kidding aside, the slate will be wiped clean as far as I'm concerned the very moment Trump is officially declared the Winner. I give you my permission to stay, but I know there are others here that may withhold their consent. How things digress from there is up to you & your magnetic personality. ;)




Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Karnal on Nov 9th, 2016 at 5:29pm

red baron wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Boo Hoo....Boo Hoo.....Boo Hoo....Booo Hoo.............. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Spoken like a true winner.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by red baron on Nov 9th, 2016 at 5:33pm
It think when the whingers come out to whine about this result they should be soundly thrashed and sent to bed without their supper ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Mr. Destiny....Donald J. Trump
Post by Panther on Nov 9th, 2016 at 5:39pm

Melanias purse wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 5:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:21pm:

Panther wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:00pm:
BTW....319 million people in the USA......you do know to vote legally, a voter must be over 18 years of age to vote in America, don't you?


Yes, I know that.

Who mentioned eligible voters?

You mentioned the population of Australia, even though we aren't eligible to vote in the US election.

;)


What are you going to do, Greggery?

I might leave the board too. What's the point?

Lunacy now reigns.


That's not necessary, nor desired.

If you believe in your principals, turning tail to run solely because you weren't successful, isn't the way to respect your beliefs, so standing & advocating serves us all.......most of all you. 


Title: Re: Mr. Destiny....Donald J. Trump
Post by Secret Wars on Nov 9th, 2016 at 5:44pm

Melanias purse wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 5:03pm:
What are you going to do, Greggery?

I might leave the board too. What's the point?

Lunacy now reigns.


Dear oh dear, rattles are being thrown from prams.  ::)

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by red baron on Nov 9th, 2016 at 6:16pm
Just watched Donald Trump accept Hillary Clinton conceding defeat. His speech was conciliatory to Cllnton and promised hope and unisome for the American people.

He promised to deliver to America and I believe he has the ability to do just that.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 9th, 2016 at 6:19pm

red baron wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 6:16pm:
Just watched Donald Trump accept Hillary Clinton conceding defeat. His speech was conciliatory to Cllnton and promised hope and unisome for the American people.

He promised to deliver to America and I believe he has the ability to do just that.


Based on ...

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Karnal on Nov 9th, 2016 at 6:19pm
That's right, Secret.


red baron wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Boo Hoo....Boo Hoo.....Boo Hoo....Booo Hoo.............. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by cods on Nov 9th, 2016 at 6:22pm
I could have swore I heard gweg was being a good loser and at least slow clapping,...lolol.. sorry greg I know I know you cant stand losing..

just think now you can really drive the wedge in... where as if Hillary won you would be defending defending defending..

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Karnal on Nov 9th, 2016 at 6:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 6:19pm:

red baron wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 6:16pm:
Just watched Donald Trump accept Hillary Clinton conceding defeat. His speech was conciliatory to Cllnton and promised hope and unisome for the American people.

He promised to deliver to America and I believe he has the ability to do just that.


Based on ...


Based on Celebrity Apprentice.

Ivanka showed a lot of cleavage in that one. Miss Cleveland was pretty hot too.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Fireball on Nov 9th, 2016 at 7:06pm

Marla wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:19am:
Colorado (9) - Hillary
Florida (29) - Hillary
Iowa (6) - dayglo orange fat boy
Michigan (16) -Hillary
Nevada (6) - iffy but most likely dayglo orange fat boy
New Hampshire (4) - Hillary
North Carolina (15) - dayglo orange fat boy
Ohio (18) - dayglo orange fat boy
Pennsylvania (20) - Hillary
Virginia (13) dayglo orange fat boy
Wisconsin (10) - dayglo orange fat boy



Well, we can all tell how good you are at foreseeing the political future of your country Marlon..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-/

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 9th, 2016 at 7:09pm

Melanias purse wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 6:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 6:19pm:

red baron wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 6:16pm:
Just watched Donald Trump accept Hillary Clinton conceding defeat. His speech was conciliatory to Cllnton and promised hope and unisome for the American people.

He promised to deliver to America and I believe he has the ability to do just that.


Based on ...


Based on Celebrity Apprentice.

Ivanka showed a lot of cleavage in that one. Miss Cleveland was pretty hot too.


Ah.

I never actually saw that.

Perhaps I can get a DVD box-set from JB HiFi.


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Raven on Nov 9th, 2016 at 7:41pm
A man with no political experience can be president, yet when Raven started out he needed minimum 3-5 years for an entry level job

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Frank on Nov 9th, 2016 at 8:47pm

mothra wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 5:32pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 5:17pm:
It will be Trexit.
But in any case, Trump has already won - he is setting the agenda, not Hillary.


Lol... are you in for a surprise.



You stupid, stupid little housewife.


Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by mortdooley on Nov 9th, 2016 at 11:23pm

Raven wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 7:41pm:
A man with no political experience can be president, yet when Raven started out he needed minimum 3-5 years for an entry level job



You misunderstand, if you serve the people you do it for a term or two and then return to private life. We have career politicians who only care about making promises they won't keep and being re-elected. Obama has never served the people, he has ruled through intimidation.



Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Marla on Nov 10th, 2016 at 1:42am
Trump won't serve anyone but himself, either.

This is going to go down in history books as America's greatest snow job


Oh, that's right, you Texuuns burn your history books.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by mortdooley on Nov 10th, 2016 at 1:49am
Just because you are misinformed by people who re imagine history doesn't mean your opinion has value.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Raven on Nov 10th, 2016 at 3:52am

Mortdooley wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 11:23pm:

Raven wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 7:41pm:
A man with no political experience can be president, yet when Raven started out he needed minimum 3-5 years for an entry level job



Obama has never served the people, he has ruled through intimidation.


Care to provide examples?

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by mortdooley on Nov 10th, 2016 at 4:02am
No, find some examples of his accomplishments.

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Panther on Nov 10th, 2016 at 8:31am
..


January 20, 2017







Barrack Hussien Obama is history, Adios to the 'Failed Experiment', while History is made ushering in
The New Commander-in-Chief,
President Donald J. Trump, the 45th President of the United States of America.



..

Title: Re: The U.S.of A. arrives at its Destiny
Post by Raven on Nov 10th, 2016 at 5:41pm

Mortdooley wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 4:02am:
No, find some examples of his accomplishments.


Check page 2 of this thread.

Care to provide examples?

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