they're the good ones..

we need to settle more "moderate" Nazi immigrants into australia...

right?  :)

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 12:42pm:

they're the good ones.. we need to settle more "moderate" Nazi immigrants into australia... right?  :)

Nope.  Whats wrong, need more supporters for the PHONies?    ::)

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 12:42pm:

they're the good ones.. we need to settle more "moderate" Nazi immigrants into australia... right?  :)

Korrect!

:)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 2:00pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 12:42pm: they're the good ones.. we need to settle more "moderate" Nazi immigrants into australia... right?  :) Nope.  Whats wrong, need more supporters for the PHONies?    ::)

http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae269/oldpom/14642131_1769054306683810_3277246742615879377_n.jpg

You really do love the Nazis, don't you, Mechanic?  Been frightened by a Muslim or even a Jew or an Indigenous Australian lately?    ::)

Moderate Nazi's what?

mothra wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 2:19pm:

Moderate Nazi's what?

Moderate Muslim's what?  :D

come on you forum luvvies..

the holocaust was an isolated incident...

stop hating on Nazi's you bigot, racists..

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 2:23pm:

come on you forum luvvies.. the holocaust was an isolated incident... stop hating on Nazi's you bigot, racists..

Hating on Nazi's what?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 2:18pm:

You really do love the Nazis, don't you, Mechanic?  Been frightened by a Muslim or even a Jew or an Indigenous Australian lately?    ::)

why are you so scared of Nazi's..

when was the last time a Nazi ever hurt you or anyone in Australia?

when was the last time a Nazi beheaded someone?

bloody Racists...  >:(

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 2:27pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 2:18pm: You really do love the Nazis, don't you, Mechanic?  Been frightened by a Muslim or even a Jew or an Indigenous Australian lately?    ::) why are you so scared of Nazi's.. when was the last time a Nazi ever hurt you or anyone in Australia?

At recent anti-Islamic rallies...


Quote:

when was the last time a Nazi beheaded someone?

1945 IIRC...


Quote:

bloody Racists...  >:(

"Race" is a social construct and one I do not support.  There is only one race, the human one.

So, why do you describe yourself as a Nazi then, Mechanic?   ::)

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 2:21pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 2:19pm: Moderate Nazi's what? Moderate Muslim's what?  :D

I know many moderate Muslims, Mechanic.  Never met a moderate Nazi though...   ::) ::)

can you explain.. what is a

MODERATE Nazi?..

I didnt know there was such a thing.

cods wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 3:03pm:

can you explain.. what is a MODERATE Nazi?.. I didnt know there was such a thing.

they are just members of the National Socialist German Workers' Party


when was the last time there was a terrorist attack by someone from the National Socialist German Workers' Party?

when was the last time that there was a beheading on behalf of the National Socialist German Workers' Party??

never right??

we are far better off and safer in Australia to take in Nazi Immigrants than we are Islamic Muzzies immigrants who want to kill us..

right??

are they trying to come to Australia???...

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 2:27pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 2:18pm: You really do love the Nazis, don't you, Mechanic?  Been frightened by a Muslim or even a Jew or an Indigenous Australian lately?    ::) why are you so scared of Nazi's..

Nazi's what?

mothra wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 2:19pm:

Moderate Nazi's what?

;D ;D ;D

That got her attention.

As a matter of fact, most of Hitler's Generals did not agree with invading foreign lands, and did not agree with what happened to the Jews. The notion that the great bulk of the German people were agreeable to the idea of exterminating the Jews, is utter bunkum.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 2:23pm:

come on you forum luvvies.. the holocaust was an isolated incident... stop hating on Nazi's you bigot, racists..

Exactly.

Where have their 'Human Rights' considerations gone all of a sudden?

And then again, there were just as many Nazis in Germany following the cessation of hostilities as there were before and during the war, and yet the US, Canada, Britain, Australia, and New Zealand had a vigorous immigration programme inviting these very same people to come over and become a citizen.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 3:34pm:

when was the last time there was a terrorist attack by a Nazi?

27 September 1980 - Munich - Gundolf Köhler - set off a bomb at the Oktoberfest fairgrounds in Theresienwiese, Munich, killing twelve and injuring over two hundred more.

28 April 1993 - Solingen - Four young German men (aged between 16 and 23) belonging to the far right skinhead scene, the oldest with known neo-Nazi ties, set fire to the house of a large Turkish family in Solingen in North Rhine-Westphalia.

9 June 2004 - Cologne - National Socialist Underground - set off a pipe bomb.

25 April 2007 - Heilbronn - National Socialist Underground -  Small arms fire, murdered Michéle Kiesewetter.

That is just a few amongst hundreds of terrorist incidents linked to the Nazis around the world...  ::) ::)

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 5:24pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 2:19pm: Moderate Nazi's what? ;D ;D ;D That got her attention. As a matter of fact, most of Hitler's Generals did not agree with invading foreign lands, and did not agree with what happened to the Jews. The notion that the great bulk of the German people were agreeable to the idea of exterminating the Jews, is utter bunkum.

They still just "followed orders", now didn't they, Herbie?  Remember the Nuremberg trials and the principle established there?    ::)

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 5:24pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 2:19pm: Moderate Nazi's what? ;D ;D ;D That got her attention. As a matter of fact, most of Hitler's Generals did not agree with invading foreign lands, and did not agree with what happened to the Jews. The notion that the great bulk of the German people were agreeable to the idea of exterminating the Jews is utter bunkum.

those who fought for the Reich  were in fact NAZIs herb   and they were proud of it.... they were fighting for Honor of the EMpire...
Hitler started the Nazi Party  he wanted a pure Germany blond and blue eyed...I am sure he didnt use words like exterminate other races...... but over all I dont think too many were not aware of what infact was going on...

like it or not Hitler has charisma   even today I am sure he would get a huge following....

not for the same things though....at least I can hope not.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 5:33pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:24pm: mothra wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 2:19pm: Moderate Nazi's what? ;D ;D ;D That got her attention. As a matter of fact, most of Hitler's Generals did not agree with invading foreign lands, and did not agree with what happened to the Jews. The notion that the great bulk of the German people were agreeable to the idea of exterminating the Jews, is utter bunkum. They still just "followed orders", now didn't they, Herbie?  Remember the Nuremberg trials and the principle established there?    ::)

Most German's didn't know what was going on. It's the same now. We are all mushrooms.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 5:30pm:

And then again, there were just as many Nazis in Germany following the cessation of hostilities as there were before and during the war, and yet the US, Canada, Britain, Australia, and New Zealand had a vigorous immigration programme inviting these very same people to come over and become a citizen.

That's correct. The Snowy Mountain project was infested with them. I talked to one and he loved Hitler, made excuses for him. I've always wondered how he got through immigration, it turns out the Libs and Labs simply didn't care, and then later on, they were protected from prosecution

met a German couple years ago who were very happy with Hitler   he did in  fact save =Germany is the way they looked at it.. their unemployment was huge and he was the reason Germany became the industrial nation it still is today...

he was just mad... but apart from that.....

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 5:45pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:30pm: And then again, there were just as many Nazis in Germany following the cessation of hostilities as there were before and during the war, and yet the US, Canada, Britain, Australia, and New Zealand had a vigorous immigration programme inviting these very same people to come over and become a citizen. That's correct. The Snowy Mountain project was infested with them. I talked to one and he loved Hitler, made excuses for him. I've always wondered how he got through immigration, it turns out the Libs and Labs simply didn't care, and then later on, they were protected from prosecution

Loads of Italians like John Smith's grandfather came out here after ww2 who fought with the Germans. Nobody made a fuss about them.

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 5:48pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:45pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:30pm: And then again, there were just as many Nazis in Germany following the cessation of hostilities as there were before and during the war, and yet the US, Canada, Britain, Australia, and New Zealand had a vigorous immigration programme inviting these very same people to come over and become a citizen. That's correct. The Snowy Mountain project was infested with them. I talked to one and he loved Hitler, made excuses for him. I've always wondered how he got through immigration, it turns out the Libs and Labs simply didn't care, and then later on, they were protected from prosecution Loads of Italians like John Smith's grandfather came out here after ww2 who fought with the Germans. Nobody made a fuss about them.

and build the bloody dam they did.. and what a mighty job as well..

we wouldnt get it built with todays spineless lot..

Nazism is the German party ideology of Fascism. Here is what I don't like about it. It advocates a one party government run by the military and police. It is anti-liberal and anti-individual, in every way. Such things as art and philosophy are controlled by government policy. Creativity is stifled and only propaganda is permitted in the media. Fascism proposes the indoctrination of all citizens as defenders of the state, rather like an ant colony. Present day Islamic countries tend towards fascism. Fascists favour autocratic leaders, if not outright dictators. It doesn't matter if they are complete wankers in private, just as they strut around with their chests out, in public. Anyone who would want to live in a fascist state would have little self respect.

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 5:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:33pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:24pm: mothra wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 2:19pm: Moderate Nazi's what? ;D ;D ;D That got her attention. As a matter of fact, most of Hitler's Generals did not agree with invading foreign lands, and did not agree with what happened to the Jews. The notion that the great bulk of the German people were agreeable to the idea of exterminating the Jews, is utter bunkum. They still just "followed orders", now didn't they, Herbie?  Remember the Nuremberg trials and the principle established there?    ::) Most German's didn't know what was going on. It's the same now. We are all mushrooms.

It's the same with YOU, pal.  YOU are an active fungus.

cods wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 5:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:48pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:45pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:30pm: And then again, there were just as many Nazis in Germany following the cessation of hostilities as there were before and during the war, and yet the US, Canada, Britain, Australia, and New Zealand had a vigorous immigration programme inviting these very same people to come over and become a citizen. That's correct. The Snowy Mountain project was infested with them. I talked to one and he loved Hitler, made excuses for him. I've always wondered how he got through immigration, it turns out the Libs and Labs simply didn't care, and then later on, they were protected from prosecution Loads of Italians like John Smith's grandfather came out here after ww2 who fought with the Germans. Nobody made a fuss about them. and build the bloody dam they did.. and what a mighty job as well.. we wouldnt get it built with todays spineless lot..

It's everyman for themselves now Cods. They sold us out. People cared more back then. Now they bring in foreigners who take jobs off our kids. Many of our people can't even afford a house. No wonder less people feel patriotic.

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 5:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:33pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:24pm: mothra wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 2:19pm: Moderate Nazi's what? ;D ;D ;D That got her attention. As a matter of fact, most of Hitler's Generals did not agree with invading foreign lands, and did not agree with what happened to the Jews. The notion that the great bulk of the German people were agreeable to the idea of exterminating the Jews, is utter bunkum. They still just "followed orders", now didn't they, Herbie?  Remember the Nuremberg trials and the principle established there?    ::) Most German's didn't know what was going on. It's the same now. We are all mushrooms.

Immaterial, under the Nuremberg Principle which international and modern military law all recognise.   You are morally responsible for your own actions, no matter what your superior orders.    ::)

Frank wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 6:03pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:40pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:33pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:24pm: mothra wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 2:19pm: Moderate Nazi's what? ;D ;D ;D That got her attention. As a matter of fact, most of Hitler's Generals did not agree with invading foreign lands, and did not agree with what happened to the Jews. The notion that the great bulk of the German people were agreeable to the idea of exterminating the Jews, is utter bunkum. They still just "followed orders", now didn't they, Herbie?  Remember the Nuremberg trials and the principle established there?    ::) Most German's didn't know what was going on. It's the same now. We are all mushrooms. It's the same with YOU, pal.  YOU are an active fungus.

You know about fungus Frank.  It's growing all over your wrinkley ballsack.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 6:07pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:40pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:33pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:24pm: mothra wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 2:19pm: Moderate Nazi's what? ;D ;D ;D That got her attention. As a matter of fact, most of Hitler's Generals did not agree with invading foreign lands, and did not agree with what happened to the Jews. The notion that the great bulk of the German people were agreeable to the idea of exterminating the Jews, is utter bunkum. They still just "followed orders", now didn't they, Herbie?  Remember the Nuremberg trials and the principle established there?    ::) Most German's didn't know what was going on. It's the same now. We are all mushrooms. Immaterial, under the Nuremberg Principle which international and modern military law all recognise.   You are morally responsible for your own actions, no matter what your superior orders.    ::)

I suppose we are responsible for the disaster in Iraq then. feel guilty Brian??

cods wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 5:56pm:

and build the bloody dam they did.. and what a mighty job as well..

It was also a breeding ground for belligerent ethnic racism. Aussies had nothing on those guys

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 6:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:07pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:40pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:33pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:24pm: mothra wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 2:19pm: Moderate Nazi's what? ;D ;D ;D That got her attention. As a matter of fact, most of Hitler's Generals did not agree with invading foreign lands, and did not agree with what happened to the Jews. The notion that the great bulk of the German people were agreeable to the idea of exterminating the Jews, is utter bunkum. They still just "followed orders", now didn't they, Herbie?  Remember the Nuremberg trials and the principle established there?    ::) Most German's didn't know what was going on. It's the same now. We are all mushrooms. Immaterial, under the Nuremberg Principle which international and modern military law all recognise.   You are morally responsible for your own actions, no matter what your superior orders.    ::) I suppose we are responsible for the disaster in Iraq then. feel guilty Brian??

Not guilt.  I protested against John W. Howard's decision to involve us in 2003 in the US led invasion.   I feel shame that he did so for political expediency, not because he cared for the fate of the Iraqi people.   I always believed that Saddam had to go, just not for the stupid manufactured cassis belli which George W. Bush created to sell his war to the American people.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 6:12pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:09pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:07pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:40pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:33pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:24pm: mothra wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 2:19pm: Moderate Nazi's what? ;D ;D ;D That got her attention. As a matter of fact, most of Hitler's Generals did not agree with invading foreign lands, and did not agree with what happened to the Jews. The notion that the great bulk of the German people were agreeable to the idea of exterminating the Jews, is utter bunkum. They still just "followed orders", now didn't they, Herbie?  Remember the Nuremberg trials and the principle established there?    ::) Most German's didn't know what was going on. It's the same now. We are all mushrooms. Immaterial, under the Nuremberg Principle which international and modern military law all recognise.   You are morally responsible for your own actions, no matter what your superior orders.    ::) I suppose we are responsible for the disaster in Iraq then. feel guilty Brian?? Not guilt.  I protested against John W. Howard's decision to involve us in 2003 in the US led invasion.   I feel shame that he did so for political expediency, not because he cared for the fate of the Iraqi people.   I always believed that Saddam had to go, just not for the stupid manufactured cassis belli which George W. Bush created to sell his war to the American people.   ::)

Well it's a mess now and according to your post you are as guilty as Howard is.

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 6:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:12pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:09pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:07pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:40pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:33pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:24pm: mothra wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 2:19pm: Moderate Nazi's what? ;D ;D ;D That got her attention. As a matter of fact, most of Hitler's Generals did not agree with invading foreign lands, and did not agree with what happened to the Jews. The notion that the great bulk of the German people were agreeable to the idea of exterminating the Jews, is utter bunkum. They still just "followed orders", now didn't they, Herbie?  Remember the Nuremberg trials and the principle established there?    ::) Most German's didn't know what was going on. It's the same now. We are all mushrooms. Immaterial, under the Nuremberg Principle which international and modern military law all recognise.   You are morally responsible for your own actions, no matter what your superior orders.    ::) I suppose we are responsible for the disaster in Iraq then. feel guilty Brian?? Not guilt.  I protested against John W. Howard's decision to involve us in 2003 in the US led invasion.   I feel shame that he did so for political expediency, not because he cared for the fate of the Iraqi people.   I always believed that Saddam had to go, just not for the stupid manufactured cassis belli which George W. Bush created to sell his war to the American people.   ::) Well it's a mess now and according to your post you are as guilty as Howard is.

Nope.  I was not in the line of command nor was I responsible for the invasion of Iraq.  I was a private citizen in 2003, protesting against this unnecessary war sold on lies manufactured by Bush, Blair and Howard.   A war that you more than likely supported, right?   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 6:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:14pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:12pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:09pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:07pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:40pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:33pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:24pm: mothra wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 2:19pm: Moderate Nazi's what? ;D ;D ;D That got her attention. As a matter of fact, most of Hitler's Generals did not agree with invading foreign lands, and did not agree with what happened to the Jews. The notion that the great bulk of the German people were agreeable to the idea of exterminating the Jews, is utter bunkum. They still just "followed orders", now didn't they, Herbie?  Remember the Nuremberg trials and the principle established there?    ::) Most German's didn't know what was going on. It's the same now. We are all mushrooms. Immaterial, under the Nuremberg Principle which international and modern military law all recognise.   You are morally responsible for your own actions, no matter what your superior orders.    ::) I suppose we are responsible for the disaster in Iraq then. feel guilty Brian?? Not guilt.  I protested against John W. Howard's decision to involve us in 2003 in the US led invasion.   I feel shame that he did so for political expediency, not because he cared for the fate of the Iraqi people.   I always believed that Saddam had to go, just not for the stupid manufactured cassis belli which George W. Bush created to sell his war to the American people.   ::) Well it's a mess now and according to your post you are as guilty as Howard is. Nope.  I was not in the line of command nor was I responsible for the invasion of Iraq.  I was a private citizen in 2003, protesting against this unnecessary war sold on lies manufactured by Bush, Blair and Howard.   A war that you more than likely supported, right?   ::)

So were most Germans. What's the diff?

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 6:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:17pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:14pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:12pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:09pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:07pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:40pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:33pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:24pm: mothra wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 2:19pm: Moderate Nazi's what? ;D ;D ;D That got her attention. As a matter of fact, most of Hitler's Generals did not agree with invading foreign lands, and did not agree with what happened to the Jews. The notion that the great bulk of the German people were agreeable to the idea of exterminating the Jews, is utter bunkum. They still just "followed orders", now didn't they, Herbie?  Remember the Nuremberg trials and the principle established there?    ::) Most German's didn't know what was going on. It's the same now. We are all mushrooms. Immaterial, under the Nuremberg Principle which international and modern military law all recognise.   You are morally responsible for your own actions, no matter what your superior orders.    ::) I suppose we are responsible for the disaster in Iraq then. feel guilty Brian?? Not guilt.  I protested against John W. Howard's decision to involve us in 2003 in the US led invasion.   I feel shame that he did so for political expediency, not because he cared for the fate of the Iraqi people.   I always believed that Saddam had to go, just not for the stupid manufactured cassis belli which George W. Bush created to sell his war to the American people.   ::) Well it's a mess now and according to your post you are as guilty as Howard is. Nope.  I was not in the line of command nor was I responsible for the invasion of Iraq.  I was a private citizen in 2003, protesting against this unnecessary war sold on lies manufactured by Bush, Blair and Howard.   A war that you more than likely supported, right?   ::) So were most Germans. What's the diff?

Most Germans were part of the Nazi war machine.  They either farmed food for it, manufactured weapons for it or fought for it.   They were responsible for it's atrocities, often committing them because they were ordered to.   Nuremberg established the principle that you are morally responsible for your own actions.  QED.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 6:42pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:20pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:17pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:14pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:12pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:09pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:07pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:40pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:33pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:24pm: mothra wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 2:19pm: Moderate Nazi's what? ;D ;D ;D That got her attention. As a matter of fact, most of Hitler's Generals did not agree with invading foreign lands, and did not agree with what happened to the Jews. The notion that the great bulk of the German people were agreeable to the idea of exterminating the Jews, is utter bunkum. They still just "followed orders", now didn't they, Herbie?  Remember the Nuremberg trials and the principle established there?    ::) Most German's didn't know what was going on. It's the same now. We are all mushrooms. Immaterial, under the Nuremberg Principle which international and modern military law all recognise.   You are morally responsible for your own actions, no matter what your superior orders.    ::) I suppose we are responsible for the disaster in Iraq then. feel guilty Brian?? Not guilt.  I protested against John W. Howard's decision to involve us in 2003 in the US led invasion.   I feel shame that he did so for political expediency, not because he cared for the fate of the Iraqi people.   I always believed that Saddam had to go, just not for the stupid manufactured cassis belli which George W. Bush created to sell his war to the American people.   ::) Well it's a mess now and according to your post you are as guilty as Howard is. Nope.  I was not in the line of command nor was I responsible for the invasion of Iraq.  I was a private citizen in 2003, protesting against this unnecessary war sold on lies manufactured by Bush, Blair and Howard.   A war that you more than likely supported, right?   ::) So were most Germans. What's the diff? Most Germans were part of the Nazi war machine.  They either farmed food for it, manufactured weapons for it or fought for it.   They were responsible for it's atrocities, often committing them because they were ordered to.   Nuremberg established the principle that you are morally responsible for your own actions.  QED.   ::)

An overwhelming majority of German's didn't fire a shot. We help the Australian war machine with out taxes. What's the diff?

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 6:46pm:

An overwhelming majority of German's didn't fire a shot. We help the Australian war machine with out taxes. What's the diff?

The difference is that our war machine does not deliberately set out to commit atrocities, unlike the Nazi war machine.  QED.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 6:55pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:46pm: An overwhelming majority of German's didn't fire a shot. We help the Australian war machine with out taxes. What's the diff? The difference is that our war machine does not deliberately set out to commit atrocities, unlike the Nazi war machine.  QED.    ::)

Not every German was a Nazi Brian. Many people didn't have a choice but to go along with it. Remember, don't go painting everybody with the same brush. You don't like that when we do it to the Muslims.

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 7:00pm:

... don't go painting everybody with the same brush. You don't like that when we do it to the Muslims.

An admission.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 2:18pm:

You really do love the Nazis, don't you, Mechanic?  Been frightened by a Muslim or even a Jew or an Indigenous Australian lately?    ::)

Brian, "Indigenous" is so 2 years ago. It's actually offensive to Refer to Aboriginal people as "indigenous" as it implies they are flora and fauna.

I'll let you off this time but next time the PC Police will be breathing down your neck.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 7:01pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 7:00pm: ... don't go painting everybody with the same brush. You don't like that when we do it to the Muslims. An admission.

Not at all. I have faith that most Muslims follow the Koran. Some more seriously than others. So on certain things they mostly do think the same . Hair coverings, not eating pork, Muslim  females not marrying non Muslim males for example. You can paint them with the same brush on certain things.

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 7:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 7:01pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 7:00pm: ... don't go painting everybody with the same brush. You don't like that when we do it to the Muslims. An admission. Not at all.

Oh yes.

We have it now.

"... don't go painting everybody with the same brush. You don't like that when we do it to the Muslims."

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 7:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 7:06pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 7:01pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 7:00pm: ... don't go painting everybody with the same brush. You don't like that when we do it to the Muslims. An admission. Not at all. Oh yes. We have it now. "... don't go painting everybody with the same brush. You don't like that when we do it to the Muslims."

But you can paint all Muslims the same on certain things. I can't help it if people blindly follow organised religion.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 6:42pm:

Nuremberg established the principle that you are morally responsible for your own actions.  QED.   ::)

Gibberish.

There were those who used their initiative and were 'creative' with the evil they did, but the vast majority were drones who did as they were told or ended up on the Russian front or in one of the concentration camps.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 6:12pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:09pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:07pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:40pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:33pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:24pm: mothra wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 2:19pm: Moderate Nazi's what? ;D ;D ;D That got her attention. As a matter of fact, most of Hitler's Generals did not agree with invading foreign lands, and did not agree with what happened to the Jews. The notion that the great bulk of the German people were agreeable to the idea of exterminating the Jews, is utter bunkum. They still just "followed orders", now didn't they, Herbie?  Remember the Nuremberg trials and the principle established there?    ::) Most German's didn't know what was going on. It's the same now. We are all mushrooms. Immaterial, under the Nuremberg Principle which international and modern military law all recognise.   You are morally responsible for your own actions, no matter what your superior orders.    ::) I suppose we are responsible for the disaster in Iraq then. feel guilty Brian?? Not guilt.  I protested against John W. Howard's decision to involve us in 2003 in the US led invasion.   I feel shame that he did so for political expediency, not because he cared for the fate of the Iraqi people.   I always believed that Saddam had to go, just not for the stupid manufactured cassis belli which George W. Bush created to sell his war to the American people.   ::)

Oh ok bwian...

So you are a moderate australian...

An Australian who was part of a coalition who invaded many countries and killed millions of people including women and  children. ...

And you think that you are better than a moderate Nazi somehow? ???

What a dam joke....

You should be ashamed of yourself  😠

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 12:42pm:

they're the good ones.. we need to settle more "moderate" Nazi immigrants into australia... right?  :)

What's wrong with the extremist Nazi immigrants? We have Herbie, Bogie, Sprint and the old boy - all devout Nazi enthusiasts.

No, if they want to invade our country and tell us what to do, I think we should thank them for it.

Let's face it, after hearing the old boy bleat on with his standard post, you're unlikely to agree with him. After reading Sprint's two-word posts, you're unlikely to understand him.

And after reading Bogie and Herbie's unsourced mystery propaganda, you're unlikely to believe them. After all, the biggest threat to the immigrant Nazi movement is the immigrqant Nazis themselves.

If it wasn't for Herbie, Bogie, Sprint and the old boy, we'd have to make them up.

Karnal wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 7:38pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 12:42pm: they're the good ones.. we need to settle more "moderate" Nazi immigrants into australia... right?  :) What's wrong with the extremist Nazi immigrants? We have Herbie, Bogie, Sprint and the old boy - all devout Nazi enthusiasts. No, if they want to invade our country and tell us what to do, I think we should thank them for it. Let's face it, after hearing the old boy bleat on with his standard post, you're unlikely to agree with him. After reading Sprint's two-word posts, you're unlikely to understand him. And after reading Bogie and Herbie's unsourced mystery propaganda, you're unlikely to believe them. After all, the biggest threat to the immigrant Nazi movement is the immigrqant Nazis themselves. If it wasn't for Herbie, Bogie, Sprint and the old boy, we'd have to make them up.

Count me in.  I saw a movie about .reinhard heydrich last night, what a tall handsome drink of water he was!

I think it's time the Goose Step was brought back into fashion again.

John Cleese tried to bring it back with his Ministry of Silly Walks, but it didn't catch on.

And let's be honest, some of those Nazi uniforms were very smart, and acted as chick-magnets when the guys were on home leave from rounding up Jews in Poland and elsewhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StNJ4_ni37o

Well played Mechanic,,, I see what you did with this thread.

Used history to point out the absurdity and double standards of our times,,, well played.

We could have a whip around and see if we cant get you a jesters costume to fit the role.

Jesters were performing a very powerful role in the past

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2016 at 7:26am:

I think it's time the Goose Step was brought back into fashion again. John Cleese tried to bring it back with his Ministry of Silly Walks, but it didn't catch on. And let's be honest, some of those Nazi uniforms were very smart, and acted as chick-magnets when the guys were on home leave from rounding up Jews in Poland and elsewhere.

I agree
A damn sight nicer and more appealing than a damn pair of pajamas, loose dress on top and a pair of sandles.
Thats for sure.

miketrees wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2016 at 9:36am:

Well played Mechanic,,, I see what you did with this thread. Used history to point out the absurdity and double standards of our times,,, well played.

No the Mechanics argument is a logical fallacy.

He is trying to compare members of political party with members of a world wide religion.

apples and oranges

The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2016 at 9:59am:

miketrees wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 9:36am: Well played Mechanic,,, I see what you did with this thread. Used history to point out the absurdity and double standards of our times,,, well played. No the Mechanics argument is a logical fallacy. He is trying to compare members of political party with members of a world wide religion. apples and oranges

Or the dichotomy and absurdity of accepting that a group with extreme teachings that breeds extremism isn't that moderate.


If we accept that there are moderate muslims then we must accept moderate nazis.


And yes that does apply to jeezus freaks the follow the extremism of the old testament or any bullsh1t that breeds out of their beliefs.  :)


Pity most of you people aren't quite smart enough to see the sarcasm without a fkken emojii

apples and oranges


Still both fruit

BigOl64 wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2016 at 10:07am:

And yes that does apply to jeezus freaks the follow the extremism of the old testament or any bullsh1t that breeds out of their beliefs.  :)

So you are saying that there is no such thing as a moderate Christian?

Mistress Nicole wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 7:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 2:18pm: You really do love the Nazis, don't you, Mechanic?  Been frightened by a Muslim or even a Jew or an Indigenous Australian lately?    ::) Brian, "Indigenous" is so 2 years ago. It's actually offensive to Refer to Aboriginal people as "indigenous" as it implies they are flora and fauna. I'll let you off this time but next time the PC Police will be breathing down your neck.

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Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 7:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 7:01pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 7:00pm: ... don't go painting everybody with the same brush. You don't like that when we do it to the Muslims. An admission. Not at all. I have faith that most Muslims follow the Koran. Some more seriously than others. So on certain things they mostly do think the same . Hair coverings, not eating pork, Muslim  females not marrying non Muslim males for example. You can paint them with the same brush on certain things.

But not all.

Using your reasonly, all Christians think, speak, eat the same and follow the Bible.  Yet we know that isn't true.  So, suddenly why are all Muslims different, Mmmm?   Why are Muslims all members of a Borg-like community whereas Christians/Buddhists/Hindus/Shinto/Taoists/Animists aren't?  You do enjoy shopping for your broadbrushes here, don't you?

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Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 7:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:42pm: Nuremberg established the principle that you are morally responsible for your own actions.  QED.   ::) Gibberish.

Nuremberg Principle


Quote:

There were those who used their initiative and were 'creative' with the evil they did, but the vast majority were drones who did as they were told or ended up on the Russian front or in one of the concentration camps.

Defending Nazis doing evil?  My, my, Herbie, how low you have sunk...   ::) ::)

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 7:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:12pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:09pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:07pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:40pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:33pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:24pm: mothra wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 2:19pm: Moderate Nazi's what? ;D ;D ;D That got her attention. As a matter of fact, most of Hitler's Generals did not agree with invading foreign lands, and did not agree with what happened to the Jews. The notion that the great bulk of the German people were agreeable to the idea of exterminating the Jews, is utter bunkum. They still just "followed orders", now didn't they, Herbie?  Remember the Nuremberg trials and the principle established there?    ::) Most German's didn't know what was going on. It's the same now. We are all mushrooms. Immaterial, under the Nuremberg Principle which international and modern military law all recognise.   You are morally responsible for your own actions, no matter what your superior orders.    ::) I suppose we are responsible for the disaster in Iraq then. feel guilty Brian?? Not guilt.  I protested against John W. Howard's decision to involve us in 2003 in the US led invasion.   I feel shame that he did so for political expediency, not because he cared for the fate of the Iraqi people.   I always believed that Saddam had to go, just not for the stupid manufactured cassis belli which George W. Bush created to sell his war to the American people.   ::) Oh ok bwian... So you are a moderate australian... An Australian who was part of a coalition who invaded many countries and killed millions of people including women and  children. ...

Did any Australians participate in that slaughter?  No.  Indeed, the worse "war crime" our diggers have been accused of was the inadvertent death of some Iraqi children.   Hardly something which you can use to condemn an entire nation for.   As usual, your efforts to establish some form of comparison in order to produce this:

Quote:

And you think that you are better than a moderate Nazi somehow? ???

Are obviously woefully exaggerated, Mechanic but then we are getting used to such exaggeration from PHONies, now aren't we?    ::)


Quote:

What a dam joke.... You should be ashamed of yourself  😠

Already said I am, Mechanic.  You're a bit behind the times it seems.  Perhaps you should stick to bigotry, racism, xenophobia and migrant hating?    ::) ::)

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 7:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:42pm: Nuremberg established the principle that you are morally responsible for your own actions.  QED.   ::) Gibberish. There were those who used their initiative and were 'creative' with the evil they did, but the vast majority were drones who did as they were told or ended up on the Russian front or in one of the concentration camps.

Is that an analogy for your 'vast majority of moderate Muslim' friends, Brian?
They joined the Jihadi party only to end up ridiculed and laughed at or not believed that they are just misunderstood about their Islamic creed???

Frank wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2016 at 4:18pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 7:20pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:42pm: Nuremberg established the principle that you are morally responsible for your own actions.  QED.   ::) Gibberish. There were those who used their initiative and were 'creative' with the evil they did, but the vast majority were drones who did as they were told or ended up on the Russian front or in one of the concentration camps. Is that an analogy for your 'vast majority of moderate Muslim' friends, Brian?

Nope.  At least I have some Muslim friends.  Have you ever even spoken to a Muslim, let alone become friends with one?   ::)

The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2016 at 10:23am:

BigOl64 wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 10:07am: And yes that does apply to jeezus freaks the follow the extremism of the old testament or any bullsh1t that breeds out of their beliefs.  :) So you are saying that there is no such thing as a moderate Christian?

Not big on english comprehension are you?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2016 at 4:58pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 4:18pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 7:20pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:42pm: Nuremberg established the principle that you are morally responsible for your own actions.  QED.   ::) Gibberish. There were those who used their initiative and were 'creative' with the evil they did, but the vast majority were drones who did as they were told or ended up on the Russian front or in one of the concentration camps. Is that an analogy for your 'vast majority of moderate Muslim' friends, Brian? Nope.  At least I have some Muslim friends.  Have you ever even spoken to a Muslim, let alone become friends with one?   ::)

How is that relevant, in any way, in a debate about Islamic doctrines???


Do explain.

BigOl64 wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2016 at 10:07am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 9:59am: miketrees wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 9:36am: Well played Mechanic,,, I see what you did with this thread. Used history to point out the absurdity and double standards of our times,,, well played. No the Mechanics argument is a logical fallacy. He is trying to compare members of political party with members of a world wide religion. apples and oranges Or the dichotomy and absurdity of accepting that a group with extreme teachings that breeds extremism isn't that moderate. If we accept that there are moderate muslims then we must accept moderate nazis. And yes that does apply to jeezus freaks the follow the extremism of the old testament or any bullsh1t that breeds out of their beliefs.  :) Pity most of you people aren't quite smart enough to see the sarcasm without a fkken emojii

give that man a cigar...

also, can someone get me a can of air freshener?

the hypocrisy of the Muzzie luvvies being spewed out around here stinks..  >:(

Did we ever find out what the moderate Nazis are in possession of?

Down here in Green Bow, ALABAMA, we don't get many Christians blowin' up them churches an' takin' off people's heads....

Sorry Ah had t' faght at yer Black Muslim Part-eh.

mothra wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2016 at 9:54pm:

Did we ever find out what the moderate Nazis are in possession of?

The Doomsday Bomb.......

Frank wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2016 at 6:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 4:58pm: Frank wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 4:18pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 7:20pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:42pm: Nuremberg established the principle that you are morally responsible for your own actions.  QED.   ::) Gibberish. There were those who used their initiative and were 'creative' with the evil they did, but the vast majority were drones who did as they were told or ended up on the Russian front or in one of the concentration camps. Is that an analogy for your 'vast majority of moderate Muslim' friends, Brian? Nope.  At least I have some Muslim friends.  Have you ever even spoken to a Muslim, let alone become friends with one?   ::) How is that relevant, in any way, in a debate about Islamic doctrines??? Do explain.

Because you keep trying to claim those Islamic doctrines determine Muslim practice, Frank.   ::)

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2016 at 10:18pm:

Down here in Green Bow, ALABAMA, we don't get many Christians blowin' up them churches an' takin' off people's heads....

Forgotten the church burnings and lynchings by your friends in the KKK?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2016 at 11:58pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 6:48pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 4:58pm: Frank wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 4:18pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 7:20pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:42pm: Nuremberg established the principle that you are morally responsible for your own actions.  QED.   ::) Gibberish. There were those who used their initiative and were 'creative' with the evil they did, but the vast majority were drones who did as they were told or ended up on the Russian front or in one of the concentration camps. Is that an analogy for your 'vast majority of moderate Muslim' friends, Brian? Nope.  At least I have some Muslim friends.  Have you ever even spoken to a Muslim, let alone become friends with one?   ::) How is that relevant, in any way, in a debate about Islamic doctrines??? Do explain. Because you keep trying to claim those Islamic doctrines determine Muslim practice, Frank.   ::)

But if not Islam then what?

What else determines Muslim practice of Islam if not Islam.

Islam is a broad church.

mothra wrote on Oct 24^th, 2016 at 8:07am:

Islam is a broad church.

its a way of life....it shuts out everything else....like any cult.. they immediately want their own schools   wherever they settle   that to me is wrong.. they should assimilate with those they choose to live with not the other way round.....

they choose to go to a CHristian country... then they should accept that way of life....otherwise choose a Muslim country its not that hard.

mothra wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2016 at 9:54pm:

Did we ever find out what the moderate Nazis are in possession of?

Nope.

It remains a mystery.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2016 at 11:58pm:

Because you keep trying to claim those Islamic doctrines determine Muslim practice, Frank.   ::)

Your own words contradict you, Brian:


Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2016 at 5:12pm:

Muslims are Islam, fool.  Your argument is like claiming that Catholics are not representative of Catholicism or Christianity.   It's like suggesting that Hindus are not representative of Hinduism.

mothra wrote on Oct 24^th, 2016 at 8:07am:

Islam is a broad church.

Is that why they are killing each other with such gusto - because they area 'broad church'?? Submission now mean 'broad church'??

You will say anything, no matter how daft.

Regardless of all the crap and bull shite that the apologists love to scream.

I still think this best describes it all

http://i64.tinypic.com/348myjl.jpg

But this is a good example

http://i65.tinypic.com/1ztamo.jpg

Or perhaps this

http://i68.tinypic.com/zjgryp.jpg

And they always remember their friends.........greenies and apologists beware

http://i64.tinypic.com/2qnwsp3.jpg

Oh well...............cant help some people
They will always be fooled

Frank wrote on Oct 24^th, 2016 at 10:28am:

mothra wrote on Oct 24th, 2016 at 8:07am: Islam is a broad church. Is that why they are killing each other with such gusto - because they area 'broad church'?? Submission now mean 'broad church'?? You will say anything, no matter how daft.

Most of them aren't killing eachother at all

In a true broad church nobody should be killing anyone else on the grounds of doctrine.
But Muslims have been killing each other on the grounds of Islamic doctrinal disagreements for centuries.

Not a broad church at all.  A very fractious and fragmented and violent church.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2016 at 7:26am:

I think it's time the Goose Step was brought back into fashion again. John Cleese tried to bring it back with his Ministry of Silly Walks, but it didn't catch on. And let's be honest, some of those Nazi uniforms were very smart, and acted as chick-magnets when the guys were on home leave from rounding up Jews in Poland and elsewhere.

Hugo Boss AG, often styled as BOSS, is a German luxury fashion house. It was founded in 1924 by Hugo Boss and is headquartered in Metzingen, Germany. Its initial major success was as a supplier of uniforms for the Nazi Party and its related organizations.

Frank wrote on Oct 24^th, 2016 at 10:25am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 11:58pm: Because you keep trying to claim those Islamic doctrines determine Muslim practice, Frank.   ::) Your own words contradict you, Brian: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 5:12pm: Muslims are Islam, fool.  Your argument is like claiming that Catholics are not representative of Catholicism or Christianity.   It's like suggesting that Hindus are not representative of Hinduism.

Actually, they don't.

So, you agree now with me that Muslims are Islam, Frank?

So, what does that suggest about the 1.6 billion, peaceful, happy, moderate Muslims around the world who don't support Terrorism and don't hate you or anybody else?  Mmmm?    ::)