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SCOTT Morrison will today rebuke the Pauline Hanson brand of isolationism, including calls for cuts to Muslim immigration. The Treasurer will delivers the government’s strongest rejection yet of populist demands for cuts to immigration and to foreign investment and trade deals. In what will be seen as a rebuff of policies preached by One Nation and the hard right of the Coalition, Mr Morrison will warn of the “great danger” of those proposed cuts. He will acknowledge “genuine anxiety” among Australians during a speech prepared for the Lowy Institute in Sydney today. But warns against retreating under the policy bedclothes. “It can be politically popular and rewarding to simply endorse these policy sentiments. However, there is great danger in following this path,” the Treasurer will say in the speech. “Investment, trade and immigration bans not only fail to address the cause of concerns that Australians have, but worse, they would cut Australians off from the primary sources of their prosperity for over two centuries. “Australia cannot afford to adopt the ‘doona economics’ approach that suggests we can pull the doona over our head and insulate ourselves from the economic changes that are occurring globally and domestically.” Mr Morrison also acknowledged that some Australians felt left out of 25 years of growth. “They are asking practical questions like: Why are my wages not increasing like they were before? Why can’t I get the extra hours I was getting before?” he says in the speech. “These sentiments are real and they are looking for something to explain it.” He links the disquiet to opinion poll findings that almost half of Australians back bans on Muslim immigration, with similar response to foreign investment and free-trade agreements. “Foreign investment, trade and an immigration program that is focused on bringing people to Australia who make a contribution rather than take one, creates jobs, boosts wages, drives growth, increases our living standards and always has,” Mr Morrison says. “Ensuring that foreign investment, trade and immigration policies continue to serve our national interest is a key component of the Turnbull Government’s national economic plan for jobs and growth.” He says the government has a national plan for jobs and growth, that will deal with some of the anxieties.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/there-is-great-danger-in-following-this-path-morrison-rejects-hansons-isolationism/news-story/03bf85cec22921eaf8bb871961b0899b

I started to have high hopes for Morrison at one stage but he is just another numpty.

Both major parties just continually sweep opinions they do not like under the rug.

They are doing themselves a disservice as the more they vilify Pauline the more votes she will get in the next election.

Maybe yes, maybe no.

Any politician that holds regressive views like Hanson does should be exposed for the fool they are.  They do not hold a special position which isolates them from criticism or the cut and thrust of everyday politics.

It has often been said that whomever gets Pauline's ear last, gets her opinion.  She is in reality foolish and naive.  She has a past history of hooking up with weirdo ideas simply because they, "sound good" and without any thought as to the ramifications of what the policy will entail.  Her constant resort to harping on the issues of "race" and religion do her and in particular Australia, a multicultural and multireligious society a disservice.   It is obvious that if not a full-blown Racist she is at least a bigot who refuses to accept her fellow Australians as Australians.

I wonder if she still believes the first President of Australia will be a half-cyborg, Lesbian, Chinese Australian woman?    ::)

10 times Pauline Hanson got the facts wrong in her maiden speech   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 2:43pm:

10 times Pauline Hanson got the facts wrong in her maiden speech   ::)

Lies.

Shifty SBS lies.

Sharia law is harsh and incompatible with Australian law  (Pauline)

False   (SBS)


Well I am sorry to disagree but that fact is TRUE especially if you are female!

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 2:23pm:

Any politician that holds regressive views

;D ;D ;D ;D

You regressive bloody little dictator, listen to yourself!!!!

Black Orchid wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 10:14pm:

Sharia law is harsh and incompatible with Australian law  (Pauline) False   (SBS) Well I am sorry to disagree but that fact is TRUE especially if you are female!

hear hear...

of course it goes against everything the Women of the world have fought for...good on Pauline for sticking up for our rights..

we still have many more to win as it is.. without Sharia law sending us back to the darkages..

didnt they have a POLL where almost 50% wanted a ban on Muslim immigration.......

how can that be out of line.....

Pauline has the balls to speak out loud what people tell her..

she doesnt pull any punches   and we need more like that....all this crap bending over for small minority little parties that spring up overnight.. makes me sick.

Frank wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 10:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1st, 2016 at 2:23pm: Any politician that holds regressive views ;D ;D ;D ;D You regressive bloody little dictator, listen to yourself!!!!

hilarious......

Black Orchid wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 2:04pm:

It can be politically popular and rewarding to simply endorse these policy sentiments. However, there is great danger in following this path,” the Treasurer will say in the speech.

From the OP article


"Popular" and "rewarding" .... but refuses to endorse them

I've never been able to make sense of contradictions like this - I instantly recognize when a politician is pulling the wool over your eyes, when they try to tell us that bad medicine is what we need, rather than popular support for a rewarding direction of policy

Morrison doesn't get it yet, why One Nation is in the Senate

Black Orchid wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 2:04pm:

I started to have high hopes for Morrison at one stage but he is just another numpty.

So did I - and yes he is.

I heard him waffling on in front of the microphone, treating us like idiots by telling us the Muslim component of Australia's immigration and refugees program has brought nothing worse to this country than all the other migrant groups.

$Millions are now being spent each year on monitoring home-grown Islamic terrorism and policing the WAY over-represented criminal activity in our Muslim community, and that's besides the excessive dole bludging and the Disability Support Pensioner rorting.

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2016 at 3:11am:

I instantly recognize when a politician is pulling the wool over your eyes, when they try to tell us that bad medicine is what we need, rather than popular support for a rewarding direction of policy.

Behind the curtains of every Western government there are the puppet-masters of the UN, and the international monetary lending agencies which will lend only on condition their prospective borrowers agree to certain social, political, and economic policies ... similar to how Foreign Aid is supposed to work.

Our 'democracy' is an illusion.

We vote parties in whose loyalties rest first and foremost with the international bankers and the International Socialists who infest UN Headquarters. The voting public comes a distant last in their priorities.

Frank wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 10:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1st, 2016 at 2:43pm: 10 times Pauline Hanson got the facts wrong in her maiden speech   ::) Lies. Shifty SBS lies.

If they are "lies" you should have no trouble proving that they are lying.  Off you go...    ::)

Black Orchid wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 10:14pm:

Sharia law is harsh and incompatible with Australian law  (Pauline) False   (SBS) Well I am sorry to disagree but that fact is TRUE especially if you are female!

Sh'aria Law does not need to be harsh, nor is it incompatible with existing Australian laws, when one considers the laws we have seen in the past in force in Australia concerning the treatment of different "races", women. children and gay men...   ::)

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2016 at 8:27am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2016 at 3:11am: I instantly recognize when a politician is pulling the wool over your eyes, when they try to tell us that bad medicine is what we need, rather than popular support for a rewarding direction of policy. Behind the curtains of every Western government there are the puppet-masters of the UN, and the international monetary lending agencies which will lend only on condition their prospective borrowers agree to certain social, political, and economic policies ... similar to how Foreign Aid is supposed to work. Our 'democracy' is an illusion. We vote parties in whose loyalties rest first and foremost with the international bankers and the International Socialists who infest UN Headquarters. The voting public comes a distant last in their priorities.

Do you check under your bed every night before you go to bed, Herbie?  Just in case the various UN or International Money Lending agencies have hidden there?    ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2016 at 7:06pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Oct 1st, 2016 at 10:14pm: Sharia law is harsh and incompatible with Australian law  (Pauline) False   (SBS) Well I am sorry to disagree but that fact is TRUE especially if you are female! Sh'aria Law does not need to be harsh, nor is it incompatible with existing Australian laws, when one considers the laws we have seen in the past in force in Australia concerning the treatment of different "races", women. children and gay men...   ::)

Are those laws in the past laws you want to go back to Brian, cos that's the insinuation of your apologism.

How does stopping Muslim immigration translate as 'isolationism' in Morrison's diseased mind?

The people who have been charged with the job of protecting Australia's interests and its future are the very same people who are sponsoring the Islamic cultural mindset towards increasing in number and influence to the detriment of our future mainstream generations.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2016 at 7:06pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Oct 1st, 2016 at 10:14pm: Sharia law is harsh and incompatible with Australian law  (Pauline) False   (SBS) Well I am sorry to disagree but that fact is TRUE especially if you are female! Sh'aria Law does not need to be harsh, nor is it incompatible with existing Australian laws, when one considers the laws we have seen in the past in force in Australia concerning the treatment of different "races", women. children and gay men...   ::)

It appears you don't like progress.   Would you like to go back and take the vote away from women too?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 2:43pm:

10 times Pauline Hanson got the facts wrong in her maiden speech   ::)

She got it wrong more than ten times.

Black Orchid wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2016 at 8:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 2nd, 2016 at 7:06pm: Black Orchid wrote on Oct 1st, 2016 at 10:14pm: Sharia law is harsh and incompatible with Australian law  (Pauline) False   (SBS) Well I am sorry to disagree but that fact is TRUE especially if you are female! Sh'aria Law does not need to be harsh, nor is it incompatible with existing Australian laws, when one considers the laws we have seen in the past in force in Australia concerning the treatment of different "races", women. children and gay men...   ::) It appears you don't like progress.   Would you like to go back and take the vote away from women too?

Do you enjoy erecting strawmen arguments in your spare time?   ::)

Secret Wars wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2016 at 7:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 2nd, 2016 at 7:06pm: Black Orchid wrote on Oct 1st, 2016 at 10:14pm: Sharia law is harsh and incompatible with Australian law  (Pauline) False   (SBS) Well I am sorry to disagree but that fact is TRUE especially if you are female! Sh'aria Law does not need to be harsh, nor is it incompatible with existing Australian laws, when one considers the laws we have seen in the past in force in Australia concerning the treatment of different "races", women. children and gay men...   ::) Are those laws in the past laws you want to go back to Brian, cos that's the insinuation of your apologism.

http://static8.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/122743/2332811-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2016 at 12:17am:

Secret Wars wrote on Oct 2nd, 2016 at 7:08pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 2nd, 2016 at 7:06pm: Black Orchid wrote on Oct 1st, 2016 at 10:14pm: Sharia law is harsh and incompatible with Australian law  (Pauline) False   (SBS) Well I am sorry to disagree but that fact is TRUE especially if you are female! Sh'aria Law does not need to be harsh, nor is it incompatible with existing Australian laws, when one considers the laws we have seen in the past in force in Australia concerning the treatment of different "races", women. children and gay men...   ::) Are those laws in the past laws you want to go back to Brian, cos that's the insinuation of your apologism. http://static8.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/122743/2332811-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Brian it was your reflex apologism for all things Islamic that caused you to compare sharia law in a positive light because we once had similar laws.

That is why you are yawning now.  No come back from where you placed yourself, an apologist and advocate for laws that the west has left behind, but you are all for them because they are Islamic.

You are the very epitome of regressive.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2016 at 7:06pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Oct 1st, 2016 at 10:14pm: Sharia law is harsh and incompatible with Australian law  (Pauline) False   (SBS) Well I am sorry to disagree but that fact is TRUE especially if you are female! Sh'aria Law does not need to be harsh, nor is it incompatible with existing Australian laws, when one considers the laws we have seen in the past in force in Australia concerning the treatment of different "races", women. children and gay men...   ::)

You vulgar, oppressive little fascist, you, the Percy Wetmore of these boards!!! You do like a bit of chop-chop, a bit of torture, public stoning, blood and all that, don't you???

'it doesn't NEED to be harsh' he says menacingly.  What a completely morally bankrupt worm you are.


"Different "races", women. children and gay men" are treated as equal before the law in Australia, you hideous little fascist.  Not something you can say for most if not all Muslim jurisdictions.i

Frank wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2016 at 9:05pm:

"Different "races", women. children and gay men" are treated as equal before the law in Australia ...

... a gay man can legally marry another gay man in Australia, can they?

Or, did you lie?

Secret Wars wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2016 at 6:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 3rd, 2016 at 12:17am: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 2nd, 2016 at 7:08pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 2nd, 2016 at 7:06pm: Black Orchid wrote on Oct 1st, 2016 at 10:14pm: Sharia law is harsh and incompatible with Australian law  (Pauline) False   (SBS) Well I am sorry to disagree but that fact is TRUE especially if you are female! Sh'aria Law does not need to be harsh, nor is it incompatible with existing Australian laws, when one considers the laws we have seen in the past in force in Australia concerning the treatment of different "races", women. children and gay men...   ::) Are those laws in the past laws you want to go back to Brian, cos that's the insinuation of your apologism. http://static8.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/122743/2332811-yawn_20smiley.jpg Brian it was your reflex apologism for all things Islamic that caused you to compare sharia law in a positive light because we once had similar laws. That is why you are yawning now.  No come back from where you placed yourself, an apologist and advocate for laws that the west has left behind, but you are all for them because they are Islamic. You are the very epitome of regressive.

No, I am not where you placed me, fool.  I have never advocated "going back" to unjust laws.  Nor do I assume that all Sh'ria law is unjust, either.  I suspect that you couldn't even define Sh'ria law, you are acting out of the usual bigotry which you display to all things Muslim and Islam.  You have attempted to erect a strawman argument which I have never made.   ::) ::)

Frank wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2016 at 9:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 2nd, 2016 at 7:06pm: Black Orchid wrote on Oct 1st, 2016 at 10:14pm: Sharia law is harsh and incompatible with Australian law  (Pauline) False   (SBS) Well I am sorry to disagree but that fact is TRUE especially if you are female! Sh'aria Law does not need to be harsh, nor is it incompatible with existing Australian laws, when one considers the laws we have seen in the past in force in Australia concerning the treatment of different "races", women. children and gay men...   ::) You vulgar, oppressive little fascist, you, the Percy Wetmore of these boards!!! You do like a bit of chop-chop, a bit of torture, public stoning, blood and all that, don't you???

Tsk, tsk, resorting to ad hominem again?  How typical that you are unable to actually debate the matter under discussion and instead resort to insults all the time.


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'it doesn't NEED to be harsh' he says menacingly.  What a completely morally bankrupt worm you are.

I doubt you could even define Sh'ria law.  Few people can.  I know I cannot.   I do know that the concept of "Sh'ria law" varies markedly in every jurisdiction that it has been enacted because the Q'ran was written 1400 years ago, before the invention of many things which today are in everyday use and before the development of concepts and thinking which have occurred since.  Most such jurisdictions have retained their pre-Sh'ria legal systems (invariably from their colonial past) to cover those areas.   They have overlaid a legal system which is not necessarily what Mohammed would have recognised or accepted in medieval Arabia.   


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"Different "races", women. children and gay men" are treated as equal before the law in Australia, you hideous little fascist.  Not something you can say for most if not all Muslim jurisdictions.

Now they are.  Once they were not.  Therefore, how are laws enacted under a hypothetical Sh'ria regime incompatible with them?  Mmm?   ::)

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2016 at 10:18pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 3rd, 2016 at 9:05pm: "Different "races", women. children and gay men" are treated as equal before the law in Australia ... ... a gay man can legally marry another gay man in Australia, can they? Or, did you lie?

The law says marriage is between a man and a woman.   
All gay men are treated equally before that law, as are all others.



( and you thought how clever you are!!  ;D ;D ;D)