What is it about the psychologically damaged, motor-mouthed salesman that so easily captivates Americans?

From religious holy-rollers/ cultists to their secular equivalent - the 'self-help' latter-day shamans - to (now invading) the Presidential election process (which started with ‘Neo-Christians’ turning their minds from the selfless love needed to be a true Christian to the - anti-Christian - notion of getting and holding of raw power).

Americans just do not seem to have the Kryptonite needed to resist and defeat the siren sales songs of these bizarre psycho-pathological demagogues until they’re wrecked on the rocks of inanity.

Seriously… So many Americans seem not only unable to resist ‘the call’, they seem pathologically unable to detach themselves from the ‘Peter Pan/ Alice in Wonderland’ idealism that these nutjob charismatics evoke, even when it’s clear that the line they’re racing towards isn’t the horizon, it’s a cliff edge.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/26/opinion/why-donald-trump-should-not-be-president.html?_r=0

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a48666/trump-military-polar-bears/


El Caudillo del Mar-A-Lago

Love that.

The closest Australians could ever come to adulating a motor mouth would be the likes of the (almost forgotten) Darrell Eastlake... (Remember his cries of "HUUUGE"? - Remind you of any US 'personality'?)

Australian immunity to bullshit artists of the likes of Trump is that the admiration of overexcited motormouths in Australian culture is exclusively reserved for sports commentators and comedians.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 26^th, 2016 at 1:59pm:

The closest Australians could ever come to adulating a motor mouth would be the likes of the (almost forgotten) Darrell Eastlake... (Remember his cries of "HUUUGE"? - Remind you of any US 'personality'?) Australian immunity to bullshit artists of the likes of Trump is that the admiration of overexcited motormouths in Australian culture is exclusively reserved for sports commentators and comedians.

Unlike Australians Americans don't squirm about feeling good about themselves.
Go Trump!

Heard a radio interview this morning of an ex-American soldier who thought the country needed "a bull in a China shop" so is supporting Trump.

Richdude wrote on Sep 27^th, 2016 at 12:28am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 26th, 2016 at 1:59pm: The closest Australians could ever come to adulating a motor mouth would be the likes of the (almost forgotten) Darrell Eastlake... (Remember his cries of "HUUUGE"? - Remind you of any US 'personality'?) Australian immunity to bullshit artists of the likes of Trump is that the admiration of overexcited motormouths in Australian culture is exclusively reserved for sports commentators and comedians. Unlike Australians Americans don't squirm about feeling good about themselves. Go Trump!

There's feeling good about yourself and then there's the kind of pathological hyper-mania that makes you susceptibile to the delusional bullshit of a conman so long as it makes you feel good by keeping you in a selfimposed idealistic coma so you can fool yourself into believing you're 'living the dream'.

Your political procees has been hijacked by Trump. You're being fooled by a pathological nutjob.

The debate could not have been more of a farce if it was L Ron Hubbard running for President as opposed to (L Ron) Trump. In fact if you watch some videos of L Ron Hubbard (the other orange nutjob), you'd be forgiven for thinking that Hubbard and Trump are directly related.

The cult of personality (celebrity) infecting the nation's (and the world's) highest public office (almost to the point where the success mark on the measuring stick for Trump is to just speak Year 8 level English) has left many Americans unable to tell the difference between statesmanship and its D-grade parody...

You'd have to wonder if the whole 'Trump' thing hasn't exposed American culture as too far gone to generate competent world leadership.

AiA wrote on Sep 27^th, 2016 at 12:38am:

Heard a radio interview this morning of an ex-American soldier who thought the country needed "a bull in a China shop" so is supporting Trump.

That ex-soldier was right!

America was way way overdue for a shake up.

Wake the f... up you fools!

Richdude wrote on Sep 28^th, 2016 at 10:14am:

AiA wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 12:38am: Heard a radio interview this morning of an ex-American soldier who thought the country needed "a bull in a China shop" so is supporting Trump. That ex-soldier was right! America was way way overdue for a shake up. Wake the f... up you fools!

And Trump is the American idea of a wake/shake-upper? Trump's all the US can find?

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 28^th, 2016 at 11:18am:

Richdude wrote on Sep 28th, 2016 at 10:14am: AiA wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 12:38am: Heard a radio interview this morning of an ex-American soldier who thought the country needed "a bull in a China shop" so is supporting Trump. That ex-soldier was right! America was way way overdue for a shake up. Wake the f... up you fools! And Trump is the American idea of a wake/shake-upper? Trump's all the US can find?

Maybe not what they want but he is what they need. Someone who has experience in business, practical and can move America in a more positive direction.

Richdude wrote on Sep 28^th, 2016 at 12:20pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 28th, 2016 at 11:18am: Richdude wrote on Sep 28th, 2016 at 10:14am: AiA wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 12:38am: Heard a radio interview this morning of an ex-American soldier who thought the country needed "a bull in a China shop" so is supporting Trump. That ex-soldier was right! America was way way overdue for a shake up. Wake the f... up you fools! And Trump is the American idea of a wake/shake-upper? Trump's all the US can find? Maybe not what they want but he is what they need. Someone who has experience in business, practical and can move America in a more positive direction.

The epitome of making the same mistake and expecting a different outcome.

History is full of warnings about what happens when a people make a leader out of the craziest dog with the loudest bark.

Perhaps but a definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Which is what the US people do each time they vote for a Dem/Rep like the Bushes, Clintons and Obama. All served up by the oligarchs and giving the people the idea that they have a choice - they don't. As Donald says "the system is rigged".
However Donald is mostly outside that system which is why the powers that be are so panicked by him - a wildcard (a trump card?). If elected it will be like the brexit vote - another setback for them.
Truth is - this is an undeclared class war!

Richdude wrote on Sep 28^th, 2016 at 11:06pm:

Perhaps but a definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Which is what the US people do each time they vote for a Dem/Rep like the Bushes, Clintons and Obama. All served up by the oligarchs and giving the people the idea that they have a choice - they don't. As Donald says "the system is rigged". However Donald is mostly outside that system which is why the powers that be are so panicked by him - a wildcard (a trump card?). If elected it will be like the brexit vote - another setback for them. Truth is - this is an undeclared class war!

"The system is rigged"... That's become a mantra with Trump. After the first debate he was telling the world that his microphone was 'rigged'... 

Trump raves about how 'smart' he is by manipulating the 'system'. He's not outside it... He's neck deep in it.

A class war??? Do you seriously believe that the likes of Trump is some kind of working class hero?

Watch a few videos of L Ron Hubbard... You'll see what's really going on in Trump's head.

And he's off again...

This time google is the 'rigger' according to Trump....

This creature is about as crazy a choice for US President as would be Sir Les Patterson as Australian PM.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/29/donald-trump-attacks-biased-lester-holt-and-accuses-google-of-conspiracy

If you are interested in the truth you have to go past MSM.
MSM controls the narrative and most believe that narrative. The media is not honest it is a tool.
What Trump actually says is what you should be listening to, not some lie or fabrication. Only a couple of days the story was put out by MSM that Trump was calling for 2nd amenders to assassinate Hillary - of course he said nothing of the sort. Such is the hysteria in the media and you're a fool to believe such nonsense.

Richdude wrote on Sep 30^th, 2016 at 1:56am:

If you are interested in the truth you have to go past MSM. MSM controls the narrative and most believe that narrative. The media is not honest it is a tool. What Trump actually says is what you should be listening to, not some lie or fabrication. Only a couple of days the story was put out by MSM that Trump was calling for 2nd amenders to assassinate Hillary - of course he said nothing of the sort. Such is the hysteria in the media and you're a fool to believe such nonsense.

Well, what he actually said implied exactly that...

“If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks,” Mr. Trump said, as the crowd began to boo. He quickly added: “Although the Second Amendment people — maybe there is, I don’t know.”,,,

It was a throwaway line for sure and it was reported as an implication of assassination, but it reveals Trump's gross naivety in that, as a very high profile public speaker (running for President of the US no less), he does not comprehend that his utterances mean more than the usual bullshit they would ordinarily mean... This is just one of the obvious personality faults common with sufferers of narcissistic personality disorder...

But what if Trump's plan is not to win the Presidency? After all, Trump would have some inkling of the narrow path he will be forced to walk down were he to become the President... That walk would be impossible for an individual as damaged as Trump.

Trump's best outcome would actually be 'glorious defeat' (something Australians identify with and celebrate it in our own culture whenever we can!)... Its somewhat of an Irish trait.

The payoff is that the 'gloriously defeated' get the moral latitude to say almost whatever they want and be respected for it... Imagine how much that would boost Trump's business interests, while easing the fear of everything he's ever done being analysed (under an electron microscope!) by every official and non-official investigating organisation in the world.

I mean...  former defeated Presidential contenders... Kudos to them... But who cares about them enough to analyse their lives to the 14th decimal place?

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 30^th, 2016 at 8:15am:

Richdude wrote on Sep 30th, 2016 at 1:56am: If you are interested in the truth you have to go past MSM. MSM controls the narrative and most believe that narrative. The media is not honest it is a tool. What Trump actually says is what you should be listening to, not some lie or fabrication. Only a couple of days the story was put out by MSM that Trump was calling for 2nd amenders to assassinate Hillary - of course he said nothing of the sort. Such is the hysteria in the media and you're a fool to believe such nonsense. Well, what he actually said implied exactly that... “If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks,” Mr. Trump said, as the crowd began to boo. He quickly added: “Although the Second Amendment people — maybe there is, I don’t know.”,,,

https://i.imgsafe.org/19a04c7.gif

That's a totally MSM fabricated crock of BS, designed specifically to bring trembelin' fear https://i.imgsafe.org/c1ee75c.gifinto the hearts minds of the naive, who are already swooning to pablum puke like that.

But so what, just like the phoney gun laws they propose, the law abiding 99.99+% of American gun owners wouldn't even consider that.

Now, that said, if someone actually does pick her off.....oh well, there's always Joey Biden to take over for them.

Sure, America will grieve, then pick themselves up, dust themselves off, & get back to livin' life the American way a few minutes later. There's an election to be had boy, that's goin' on come hell or high water.  https://i.imgsafe.org/f3edabb.gif

Life goes on..........  https://i.imgsafe.org/c589185.gif


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Panther wrote on Sep 30^th, 2016 at 12:56pm:

That's a totally MSM fabricated crock of BS, designed specifically to bring trembelin' fear minds of the naive, who are already swooning to pablum puke like that.

No that's what he actually said...

It was clearly a throwaway line that may or may not have been a jocular reference to assassination.

What is important is that Trump is clearly not aware of the fact that public figures (like Presidents and Presidential wannabes) are not so 'free' as the non-public in what they should and should not say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWAhx7V4YNM

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 30^th, 2016 at 4:58pm:

Panther wrote on Sep 30th, 2016 at 12:56pm: That's a totally MSM fabricated crock of BS, designed specifically to bring trembelin' fear minds of the naive, who are already swooning to pablum puke like that. No that's what he actually said... It was clearly a throwaway line that may or may not have been a jocular reference to assassination.

Trump never ever said anyone should assassinate Clinton.....& that's a fact that you can't refute........full stop!

A sick, wild interpretation by leftard idiots, with too much time on their hands, is what the goosestepping Clintonites have chosen to cling to........a figment of their own fertile, sick, imaginations.....nothing else.

The false story that Trump called for NRA members to assassinate Clinton, splendid idea or not, was just a feeble minded MSM fabrication, designed specifically to bring trembelin' fear into the minds of the naive, who are already swooning to pablum puke like that, but it was not what Trump actually meant......

Trump meant that NRA & Second Amendment supporters votes combined, in the right places, could resolve the issue......whereas Americans know that a small swing of votes could very well be the deciding difference (Obama didn't win by very much in 2012, & not only that, the number of votes isn't as important as where those votes are actually cast because America isn't a most votes wins democracy). http://www.smileyfaze.tk/smileys/doh.png

George Bush won the 2000 election, even though Al Gore had more votes than he did.......the key to the Bush victory was in what state did they vote......where the votes were cast, & not how many numerically there were in total.

Americans vote for members in an Electoral College, who in turn vote for a President.


Quote:

The United States Electoral College is the institution that elects the President and Vice President of the United States every four years. Citizens of the United States do not directly elect the president or the vice president; instead they elect representatives called "electors", who usually pledge to vote for particular presidential and vice presidential candidates.

Panther wrote on Sep 30^th, 2016 at 5:36pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 30th, 2016 at 4:58pm: Panther wrote on Sep 30th, 2016 at 12:56pm: That's a totally MSM fabricated crock of BS, designed specifically to bring trembelin' fear minds of the naive, who are already swooning to pablum puke like that. No that's what he actually said... It was clearly a throwaway line that may or may not have been a jocular reference to assassination. Trump never ever said anyone should assassinate Clinton.....& that's a fact that you can't refute........full stop! A sick, wild interpretation by leftard idiots, with too much time on their hands, is what the goosestepping Clintonites have chosen to cling to........a figment of their own fertile, sick, imaginations.....nothing else. The false story that Trump called for NRA members to assassinate Clinton, splendid idea or not, was just a feeble minded MSM fabrication, designed specifically to bring trembelin' fear into the minds of the naive, who are already swooning to pablum puke like that, but it was not what Trump actually meant...... Trump meant that NRA & Second Amendment supporters votes combined, in the right places, could resolve the issue......whereas Americans know that a small swing of votes could very well be the deciding difference (Obama didn't win by very much in 2012, & not only that, the number of votes isn't as important as where those votes are actually cast because America isn't a most votes wins democracy). http://www.smileyfaze.tk/smileys/doh.png George Bush won the 2000 election, even though Al Gore had more votes than he did.......the key to the Bush victory was in what state did they vote......where the votes were cast, & not how many numerically there were in total. Americans vote for members in an Electoral College, who in turn vote for a President. Quote: The United States Electoral College is the institution that elects the President and Vice President of the United States every four years. Citizens of the United States do not directly elect the president or the vice president; instead they elect representatives called "electors", who usually pledge to vote for particular presidential and vice presidential candidates.

Awww Panther you old pansy!

Editing your original post to this degree!

"If its Hillary its WAR"! Says Putin
Do you really want war North! Hillary is a warmonger (its good for business - her business). And you think Trump is crazy??

http://www.morningledger.com/world-war-3-vladimir-putin-declares-war-if-hillary-clinton-wins/1381015/

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 30^th, 2016 at 10:13pm:

Panther wrote on Sep 30th, 2016 at 5:36pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 30th, 2016 at 4:58pm: Panther wrote on Sep 30th, 2016 at 12:56pm: That's a totally MSM fabricated crock of BS, designed specifically to bring trembelin' fear minds of the naive, who are already swooning to pablum puke like that. No that's what he actually said... It was clearly a throwaway line that may or may not have been a jocular reference to assassination. Trump never ever said anyone should assassinate Clinton.....& that's a fact that you can't refute........full stop! A sick, wild interpretation by leftard idiots, with too much time on their hands, is what the goosestepping Clintonites have chosen to cling to........a figment of their own fertile, sick, imaginations.....nothing else. The false story that Trump called for NRA members to assassinate Clinton, splendid idea or not, was just a feeble minded MSM fabrication, designed specifically to bring trembelin' fear into the minds of the naive, who are already swooning to pablum puke like that, but it was not what Trump actually meant...... Trump meant that NRA & Second Amendment supporters votes combined, in the right places, could resolve the issue......whereas Americans know that a small swing of votes could very well be the deciding difference (Obama didn't win by very much in 2012, & not only that, the number of votes isn't as important as where those votes are actually cast because America isn't a most votes wins democracy). http://www.smileyfaze.tk/smileys/doh.png George Bush won the 2000 election, even though Al Gore had more votes than he did.......the key to the Bush victory was in what state did they vote......where the votes were cast, & not how many numerically there were in total. Americans vote for members in an Electoral College, who in turn vote for a President. Quote: The United States Electoral College is the institution that elects the President and Vice President of the United States every four years. Citizens of the United States do not directly elect the president or the vice president; instead they elect representatives called "electors", who usually pledge to vote for particular presidential and vice presidential candidates. Awww Panther you old pansy! Editing your original post to this degree!

Which would you rather have, incorrect information....I know your used to that suckling on the hind teet of the Goose-Stepping Left all the time....or would you rather have clear & concise facts like the finished product I left you & everyone else to read?......Can't deal with truth & honesty can you North.....you haven't changed one bit.....still subscribing to lies.....some things never change.   ;)

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 26^th, 2016 at 9:45am:

What is it about the psychologically damaged, motor-mouthed salesman that so easily captivates Americans? From religious holy-rollers/ cultists to their secular equivalent - the 'self-help' latter-day shamans - to (now invading) the Presidential election process (which started with ‘Neo-Christians’ turning their minds from the selfless love needed to be a true Christian to the - anti-Christian - notion of getting and holding of raw power). Americans just do not seem to have the Kryptonite needed to resist and defeat the siren sales songs of these bizarre psycho-pathological demagogues until they’re wrecked on the rocks of inanity. Seriously… So many Americans seem not only unable to resist ‘the call’, they seem pathologically unable to detach themselves from the ‘Peter Pan/ Alice in Wonderland’ idealism that these nutjob charismatics evoke, even when it’s clear that the line they’re racing towards isn’t the horizon, it’s a cliff edge. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/26/opinion/why-donald-trump-should-not-be-president.html?_r=0

First of all, let's talk inanities. We have one right here. Its the endless, and ignorant comparisons of the USA with Australia. Australia's demographic is based on tiny 19th Century British colonies. That is why we have corner fish&chip joints, and USA does not. The USA has a population of 318,000,000!!!! It has been at the center of world power for 150 years. We have never had one big issue in our history. Sorry to disappoint, but we do not compare.

As for Trump, his aggressive rhetoric won him the nomination. And intelligent people might  have thought when the campaign reached the debates, he would use the opportunity to present cohesive policies to address his concerns. If the first debate was any indication, he is not going to present policy. His presence with HC was not a debate, he simply dished up his usual unsupported accusations.

What Trump does not understand, is that he does not need to attack HC to gain votes, he needs to present the way he is going to do things. For all his bluster, I see a deeply insecure individual who is at the end of his rope. He is not getting better at this, he's getting worse, and his campaign is starting to look like a melt down.

If HC wins this election, the Republican Party is in serious trouble, just as the Democrats were in 1860. Trump is their creation. Not one of their many candidates was prepared to take on the issues that Trump capitalized on. Why? Because none of them has a frigging clue how to deal with the world today, other than to bomb someone. HC is no different, but all she has to do is play Miss nice-nice and the Democrats have it.

Richdude wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 3:03am:

"If its Hillary its WAR"! Says Putin Do you really want war North! Hillary is a warmonger (its good for business - her business). And you think Trump is crazy?? http://www.morningledger.com/world-war-3-vladimir-putin-declares-war-if-hillary-clinton-wins/1381015/

Name a period in post WW2 history where the US is not at war...

Would it be during Jimmy Carter's Presidency when he imagined that all Americans wanted was peace?... And after he gave it to them, how long was it before he was despised (even by friends) for being weak.

I think its true to say that the US (at least since WW2) has always needed someone to hate...

As for the US cowering to what a foreign head of state throws out there... Dunno (I'm guessing you're the American here) but does the idea that Americans fear the babblings of Putin seem unlikely to you?

Panther wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 8:31am:

Which would you rather have, incorrect information....I know your used to that suckling on the hind teet of the Goose-Stepping Left all the time....or would you rather have clear & concise facts like the finished product I left you & everyone else to read?......Can't deal with truth & honesty can you North.....you haven't changed one bit.....still subscribing to lies.....some things never change.   ;)

The goose stepping left???

Anyway, as I said...
[olist]It was clearly a throwaway line that may or may not have been a jocular reference to assassination.

What is important is that Trump is clearly not aware of the fact that public figures (like Presidents and Presidential wannabes) are not so 'free' as the non-public in what they should and should not say.
[/olist]

Because Presidents (and Presidential wannabes) for better or worse are judged by a higher and exponentially more rigorous standard that Joe Anyone, jokes with double meanings are more likely to be taken literally at their worst case... All politicians know this.

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POST DEBATE POLLS:
TRUMP Surges to Lead in 5 Battleground States Following Debate




Trump now leads in Nevada, Colorado, Iowa, Ohio and North Carolina –
all states Barack Obama won his first term – according to Real Clear Politics averages.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoHWjPNgMvk


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Richdude wrote on Sep 28^th, 2016 at 10:14am:

AiA wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 12:38am: Heard a radio interview this morning of an ex-American soldier who thought the country needed "a bull in a China shop" so is supporting Trump. That ex-soldier was right! America was way way overdue for a shake up. Wake the f... up you fools!

If that is all you want I suppose electing a nutter will work.

Hell of a lot of risk in other areas though.

Ahhh ... now I know why some on here are such Trump fans


When republican presidential nominee Donald Trump claimed former Miss Universe Alicia Machado had a “sex tape” some tried and failed to find evidence.

What reporters did find was that Trump himself had made an appearance in a softporn film.

Buzzfeed claimed Trump featured in a softcore Playboy classic called ‘Centerfold’ starring the Bernaola Twins.


https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/32777911/check-out-her-sex-tape-trump-unleashes-online-attack-on-former-miss-universe/#page1


;D ;D ;D ;D

issuevoter wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 9:06am:

First of all, let's talk inanities. We have one right here. Its the endless, and ignorant comparisons of the USA with Australia. Australia's demographic is based on tiny 19th Century British colonies. That is why we have corner fish&chip joints, and USA does not. The USA has a population of 318,000,000!!!! It has been at the center of world power for 150 years. We have never had one big issue in our history. Sorry to disappoint, but we do not compare.

Not sure anyone's comparing Australia with the US as much as seeing the world through our own filters... Not really possible to do much else.

But now you've got me wondering (in a 'Douglas Adams' kind of way!), if its not all down to fish and chips! Is this the opening theory in a yet-to-be-written 'Hitchhikers Guide to Cultural Supremacy'?

Just love Alec Baldwins impression of Trump on here .... hilarious

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-03/saturday-night-live-alec-baldwin-debuts-as-donald-trump/7897354

John Smith wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2016 at 9:52am:

Just love Alec Baldwins impression of Trump on here .... hilarious http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-03/saturday-night-live-alec-baldwin-debuts-as-donald-trump/7897354

Yeah, I watched a bit of that yesterday.

Baldwin does a great impersonation of the bloated old orange douche bag.

Classic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONRQZshyrPI

Trump's antics last week with Twitter could not have been more L Ron Hubbard if L Ron himself was in Trump's place.

Also, these antics of Trump's could not have been more tuned for farcical comedy if Larry David and Woody Allen had collaborated and scripted it.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2016 at 10:09am:

John Smith wrote on Oct 3rd, 2016 at 9:52am: Just love Alec Baldwins impression of Trump on here .... hilarious http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-03/saturday-night-live-alec-baldwin-debuts-as-donald-trump/7897354 Yeah, I watched a bit of that yesterday. Baldwin does a great impersonation of the bloated old orange douche bag. Classic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONRQZshyrPI

Saw that bit... The end (HUUUGE) reminded me again of poor old Darrell Eastlake.

A quote from Russell Miller's biography on L Ron Hubbard ('Bare Faced Messiah') which is as accurate a summary one-liner on Donald Trump's relationship with the truth as it was for L Ron Hubbard...
[olist]
[One of Hubbard's favorite adages was] 'If  it's  not  true  for  you,  it's  not  true.'  It  aligned  with  [Hubbard's] own  personal  philosophy,  Hubbard  explained,  'because  if  there  is  anyone  in  the  world  calculated  to  believe  what  he  wants  to  believe it is I'. Never did L. Ron Hubbard [nor would Trump, were he to use it] speak a truer word.
[/olist]

Trump's statements :

    True                        (4%)
    Mostly True              (11%)
    Half True                  (14%)
    Mostly False              (18%)
    False                        (35%)
    'Pants on Fire'           (17%)

Another Trump parallel with an American public figure appears in the NYT's characterisation of Trump's existential angst...

It was (in part at least) a characterisation that could have defined Nixon...
[olist]Politics is an effort to make human connection, but Trump seems incapable of that. He is essentially adviser-less, friendless. His campaign team is made up of cold mercenaries at best and Roger Ailes at worst. His party treats him as a stench it can’t yet remove.
[]
Imagine if you had to go through a single day without sharing kind little moments with strangers and friends.

Imagine if you had to endure a single week in a hate-filled world, crowded with enemies of your own making, the object of disgust and derision.
[]
Donald Trump’s life [] looks superficially successful and profoundly miserable. None of us would want to live in the howling wilderness of his own solitude, no matter how thick the gilding.
[/olist]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/11/opinion/donald-trumps-sad-lonely-life.html?_r=0

Looks like another Clinton skeleton falls out of the cupboard, I wonder who she can threaten now that the news is out......a dopehead and a dickhead......

http://thenewyorkevening.com/index.php/2016/10/11/breaking-drug-scandal-rock-hillarys-campaign/

looks believable

Fuzzball wrote on Oct 12^th, 2016 at 7:09pm:

Looks like another Clinton skeleton falls out of the cupboard, I wonder who she can threaten now that the news is out......a dopehead and a dickhead...... http://thenewyorkevening.com/index.php/2016/10/11/breaking-drug-scandal-rock-hillarys-campaign/

Shocking! Bill Clinton has a negro love child and had a secret cocaine adiction.

Keep spreading the word on Facebook, Matty. That could work.

Big Donger wrote on Oct 12^th, 2016 at 7:22pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Oct 12th, 2016 at 7:09pm: Looks like another Clinton skeleton falls out of the cupboard, I wonder who she can threaten now that the news is out......a dopehead and a dickhead...... http://thenewyorkevening.com/index.php/2016/10/11/breaking-drug-scandal-rock-hillarys-campaign/ Shocking! Bill Clinton has a negro love child and had a secret cocaine adiction. Keep spreading the word on Facebook, Matty. That could work.

All sounds so....... troo (not!)

And yet Trump was all the Republicans could find to compete?

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 26^th, 2016 at 9:45am:

What is it about the psychologically damaged, motor-mouthed salesman that so easily captivates Americans? From religious holy-rollers/ cultists to their secular equivalent - the 'self-help' latter-day shamans - to (now invading) the Presidential election process (which started with ‘Neo-Christians’ turning their minds from the selfless love needed to be a true Christian to the - anti-Christian - notion of getting and holding of raw power). Americans just do not seem to have the Kryptonite needed to resist and defeat the siren sales songs of these bizarre psycho-pathological demagogues until they’re wrecked on the rocks of inanity. Seriously… So many Americans seem not only unable to resist ‘the call’, they seem pathologically unable to detach themselves from the ‘Peter Pan/ Alice in Wonderland’ idealism that these nutjob charismatics evoke, even when it’s clear that the line they’re racing towards isn’t the horizon, it’s a cliff edge. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/26/opinion/why-donald-trump-should-not-be-president.html?_r=0

Trump is a symptom of the Amerikan nightmare. I'm not sure why the would-be Australians here support such an agenda, but I hazzard race-hate has something to do with it.

They miss Trump's "positive" side completely - the aspirations to wealth and luxury, the self-help franchise, the puritan prosperity doctrine only Amerikans - the descendants of settlers and slaves - can ever fully get.

The negative agenda's easy. Ban them. Kill them.

Is that all there is?

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 12^th, 2016 at 7:48pm:

Big Donger wrote on Oct 12th, 2016 at 7:22pm: Fuzzball wrote on Oct 12th, 2016 at 7:09pm: Looks like another Clinton skeleton falls out of the cupboard, I wonder who she can threaten now that the news is out......a dopehead and a dickhead...... http://thenewyorkevening.com/index.php/2016/10/11/breaking-drug-scandal-rock-hillarys-campaign/ Shocking! Bill Clinton has a negro love child and had a secret cocaine adiction. Keep spreading the word on Facebook, Matty. That could work. All sounds so....... troo (not!) And yet Trump was all the Republicans could find to compete?

Oh no.

They had Jeb Bush as well.

Big Donger wrote on Oct 12^th, 2016 at 8:07pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 26th, 2016 at 9:45am: What is it about the psychologically damaged, motor-mouthed salesman that so easily captivates Americans? From religious holy-rollers/ cultists to their secular equivalent - the 'self-help' latter-day shamans - to (now invading) the Presidential election process (which started with ‘Neo-Christians’ turning their minds from the selfless love needed to be a true Christian to the - anti-Christian - notion of getting and holding of raw power). Americans just do not seem to have the Kryptonite needed to resist and defeat the siren sales songs of these bizarre psycho-pathological demagogues until they’re wrecked on the rocks of inanity. Seriously… So many Americans seem not only unable to resist ‘the call’, they seem pathologically unable to detach themselves from the ‘Peter Pan/ Alice in Wonderland’ idealism that these nutjob charismatics evoke, even when it’s clear that the line they’re racing towards isn’t the horizon, it’s a cliff edge. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/26/opinion/why-donald-trump-should-not-be-president.html?_r=0 Trump is a symptom of the Amerikan nightmare. I'm not sure why the would-be Australians here support such an agenda, but I hazzard race-hate has something to do with it. They miss Trump's "positive" side completely - the aspirations to wealth and luxury, the self-help franchise, the puritan prosperity doctrine only Amerikans - the descendants of settlers and slaves - can ever fully get. The negative agenda's easy. Ban them. Kill them. Is that all there is?

A slavish obsession with all things American might account for this Australian support for Trump...

Americanism has invaded so much of anglophone cultures that we can imitate (often without a hint of irony or self-consciousness) accents from the Appalachian mountain area (when characterising stupidity or syncretic 'downhomeyness') or (what we imagine to be) 'black American gangster' swagger and speak (when characterising 'bad arse' bastardry!) etc...etc...

And its been going on since Elvis and shows no sign of letting up.

I guess, in the same way, some Australians have no sense of irony or self-consciousness when they display a fawning servility towards Trump/ Hubbard/ Tony Robbins personality types... Having talked themselves out of wondering if they're merely 'Amer-parroting'.

Big Donger wrote on Oct 12^th, 2016 at 8:09pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 12th, 2016 at 7:48pm: Big Donger wrote on Oct 12th, 2016 at 7:22pm: Fuzzball wrote on Oct 12th, 2016 at 7:09pm: Looks like another Clinton skeleton falls out of the cupboard, I wonder who she can threaten now that the news is out......a dopehead and a dickhead...... http://thenewyorkevening.com/index.php/2016/10/11/breaking-drug-scandal-rock-hillarys-campaign/ Shocking! Bill Clinton has a negro love child and had a secret cocaine adiction. Keep spreading the word on Facebook, Matty. That could work. All sounds so....... troo (not!) And yet Trump was all the Republicans could find to compete? Oh no. They had Jeb Bush as well.

And yet...

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2016 at 8:26pm:

Trump's antics last week with Twitter could not have been more L Ron Hubbard if L Ron himself was in Trump's place.

Trump's latest self-inflicted firestorm over the 'wire-tapping' farce (along with all the other paranoid tweet wars) is more proof that Trump and L Ron Hubbard are psychological twins.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 10:34am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 3rd, 2016 at 8:26pm: Trump's antics last week with Twitter could not have been more L Ron Hubbard if L Ron himself was in Trump's place. Trump's latest self-inflicted firestorm over the 'wire-tapping' farce (along with all the other paranoid tweet wars) is more proof that Trump and L Ron Hubbard are psychological twins.

Pity they dont share a current location... Hell.