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Bad parenting is at the root of this feral behaviour.

It has nothing to do with Whitey, or Canberra, or Invasion Days, or lack of funding from our successive governments.

It's aboriginal children being raised in a culture of No Culture but that of feral anti-social lack of discipline and Grievance Industry.

The past has to be understood, the present has to be accurately described and future has to be worked for.

The lovies ONLY want to dwell on the past, pretend everything is A-OK now and hope a unicorn which farts rainbows sorts out the future.

I bet some of  these teachers were real do-gooders and would eat an aborigines crap at first. After teaching aborigines for a while I bet their opinions  drastically changed.

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 8:48am:

link Bad parenting is at the root of this feral behaviour. It has nothing to do with Whitey, or Canberra, or Invasion Days, or lack of funding from our successive governments. It's aboriginal children being raised in a culture of No Culture but that of feral anti-social lack of discipline and Grievance Industry.

Spot on Herb.

Over 800 assaults on teachers in the last 3 years ...an alarming statistic...... and that's just for the NT. Put in the stats for the rest of the country & it would be horrifying.

Time to put the luvvie policies to bed .......... & start to kick, punch & bite back.

Is it any wonder these little shytes end up being restrained in youth detention centres.

NSW

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-05/police-stationed-inside-troubled-walgett-school/6590964

Yeah Walgett has a poor history in this regard

and so does Moree etc etc etc.

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 9:03am:

I bet some of  these teachers were real do-gooders and would eat an aborigines crap at first. After teaching aborigines for a while I bet their opinions  drastically changed.

I would say there are an awful lot of very sweet Aboriginal kids up in the NT classrooms who love their teachers almost as another member of their own family, but it's the little feral boys in every bunch who creates the stereo-type and the bad reputation for all.

The answer?

Weed out the destructive kids and remove them to special disciplinary schools away from the girls and boys who feel there's value to be gained from their schooling.

We had the occasional 'incorrigible' kid arriving at my boarding school, only to see them disappear within weeks as simply born-ferals who could never be fully domesticated. Some cats are born like that, and the vets' advice is to have them put down.

There was this strange bare patch of ground in the thick woods behind the school that we used to wonder about .....     8-)

I do trust those teachers have specialised training....they are dealing with a whole different attitude....our children expect to go to school..no ifs or buts...they go some have to be dragged I am sure but never the less they go...

aboriginal children seem to have a case of only doing it if they want too...not the same thing...if they are forced to attend school and retaliate with violence towards the teacher.. [ its the teachers fault they are there]..then that isnt helping anyone....the parents need to go to school as well...learn what a privilege it is to get an education.... if the parents never went to school every day as is expected then they will never expect their children too..... it takes effort to make children do what they dont want to do....its a lot easier to let them decide for themselves isnt it?..

teachers should be treated with respect....and children have to be TAUGHT how to respect others...

Oh my god. Its universal.

Teachers of British Aboriginals are experiencing the same problems but far worse.

Australian Aboriginals less than one case a day. British Aboriginals are committing 800+ incidents a day of classroom violence:

https://www.theguardian.com/education/classroomviolence


Quote:

School suspensions and exclusions in England have fallen for the sixth year running but still see a daily average of 878 children taken out of class for abuse or assault on fellow pupils or teachers. Education groups are concerned that the level of violence, which leads to the permanent exclusion of 13 students a day, suggests a continuing failure to recognise special educational needs (SEN) among persistent offenders. The figures also prompted warnings that government plans to remove the right of independent appeal tribunals to order the reinstatement of expelled pupils may be an over-reaction. The Advisory Centre for Education, which handles many appeals, said: "The evidence is there to suggest that alternatives to exclusion and school partnerships to improve behaviour have contributed to this fall." Department for Education figures show students were suspended on 166,900 occasions in 2010 for assault or abuse, with 2,460 expulsions. The data includes 1,210 suspensions and 20 permanent exclusions of children under five, where timely SEN intervention is seen as crucial and usually effective. The statistics coincide with separate forecasts from the department predicting an extra half million pupils in English state primary schools and nurseries by 2018. The 12% increase to 4.35 million, a total last seen in the 1970s, will add to stress on buildings, staff and pupils, with the highest rises in inner-city catchments. An average 5% fall in the number of students aged 15 and under at secondary schools will give some slack, but a department spokesman said the figures showed the need to target funds. He said: "We know that many schools across the country already face real concerns about how to provide every child with a school place when in some areas, school places far outweigh rising demand." The disciplinary figures, including 3,020 suspensions and 40 expulsions of five-year-olds, show boys were three times more likely to be suspended than girls and four times more likely to be expelled. Physical attacks took place 80,400 times, threats or verbal abuse 82,600 and there were 3,900 records of specifically racist abuse. Permanent exclusions for all disciplinary offences were down by 810 on the previous year and there were 31,900 fewer suspensions or limited-period exclusions (331,380 in 2009-10, down from 363,280 in 2008-09). But the most common cause of exclusion remained persistent disruptive behaviour, which accounted for 23.8% of suspensions and 29% of expulsions. Edward Duff, of the Children's Legal Centre at Essex University, said: "Every case of persistent disruption in my experience has led to SEN involvement and we need to find out more about how much screening for behavioural difficulties and special needs is going on. We also need to keep a special eye on 'zero tolerance' discipline, which some of the new academies make much of, to be sure that checking for special needs and other problems is part of the approach." The schools minister, Nick Gibb, said: "Weak discipline remains a significant problem in too many of our schools and classrooms, and tackling poor behaviour and raising academic standards are key priorities for the coalition government. We will back headteachers in excluding persistently disruptive pupils, which is why we are removing barriers which limit their authority. "We have already introduced a series of measures to put headteachers and teachers back in control of the classroom – including clearer guidance and increased search powers. Through the education bill we are introducing further measures to strengthen teacher authority and support schools in maintaining good behaviour." Christine Blower, general secretary of the National Union of Teachers, said the figures showed schools were using exclusion where appropriate and it was "disingenuous and worrying" for Gibb to claim that the coming bill would empower schools to use exclusion more. She said: "Whilst it is absolutely right that teachers and support staff should be able to do their jobs without fear of assault, exclusion should always be a last resort. "There needs to be far more support and resources provided by government to prevent such serious incidents from occurring, investment in staff development and support for pupils so that behaviour problems are dealt with effectively rather than allowed to escalate into serious incidents." Sara Gadzik, of the Association for School and College Leaders, said: "The figures prove that schools are already tough on discipline and that poor behaviour is not tolerated in classrooms. Pupils who disrupt the learning of their classmates are dealt with firmly and, in many cases, a short suspension is an effective way of nipping bad behaviour in the bud." ...

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 10:28am:

Oh my god. Its universal. Teachers of British Aboriginals are experiencing the same problems but far worse. Australian Aboriginals less than one case a day. British Aboriginals are committing 800+ incidents a day of classroom violence: https://www.theguardian.com/education/classroomviolence Quote: School suspensions and exclusions in England have fallen for the sixth year running but still see a daily average of 878 children taken out of class for abuse or assault on fellow pupils or teachers. Education groups are concerned that the level of violence, which leads to the permanent exclusion of 13 students a day, suggests a continuing failure to recognise special educational needs (SEN) among persistent offenders. The figures also prompted warnings that government plans to remove the right of independent appeal tribunals to order the reinstatement of expelled pupils may be an over-reaction. The Advisory Centre for Education, which handles many appeals, said: "The evidence is there to suggest that alternatives to exclusion and school partnerships to improve behaviour have contributed to this fall." Department for Education figures show students were suspended on 166,900 occasions in 2010 for assault or abuse, with 2,460 expulsions. The data includes 1,210 suspensions and 20 permanent exclusions of children under five, where timely SEN intervention is seen as crucial and usually effective. The statistics coincide with separate forecasts from the department predicting an extra half million pupils in English state primary schools and nurseries by 2018. The 12% increase to 4.35 million, a total last seen in the 1970s, will add to stress on buildings, staff and pupils, with the highest rises in inner-city catchments. An average 5% fall in the number of students aged 15 and under at secondary schools will give some slack, but a department spokesman said the figures showed the need to target funds. He said: "We know that many schools across the country already face real concerns about how to provide every child with a school place when in some areas, school places far outweigh rising demand." The disciplinary figures, including 3,020 suspensions and 40 expulsions of five-year-olds, show boys were three times more likely to be suspended than girls and four times more likely to be expelled. Physical attacks took place 80,400 times, threats or verbal abuse 82,600 and there were 3,900 records of specifically racist abuse. Permanent exclusions for all disciplinary offences were down by 810 on the previous year and there were 31,900 fewer suspensions or limited-period exclusions (331,380 in 2009-10, down from 363,280 in 2008-09). But the most common cause of exclusion remained persistent disruptive behaviour, which accounted for 23.8% of suspensions and 29% of expulsions. Edward Duff, of the Children's Legal Centre at Essex University, said: "Every case of persistent disruption in my experience has led to SEN involvement and we need to find out more about how much screening for behavioural difficulties and special needs is going on. We also need to keep a special eye on 'zero tolerance' discipline, which some of the new academies make much of, to be sure that checking for special needs and other problems is part of the approach." The schools minister, Nick Gibb, said: "Weak discipline remains a significant problem in too many of our schools and classrooms, and tackling poor behaviour and raising academic standards are key priorities for the coalition government. We will back headteachers in excluding persistently disruptive pupils, which is why we are removing barriers which limit their authority. "We have already introduced a series of measures to put headteachers and teachers back in control of the classroom – including clearer guidance and increased search powers. Through the education bill we are introducing further measures to strengthen teacher authority and support schools in maintaining good behaviour." Christine Blower, general secretary of the National Union of Teachers, said the figures showed schools were using exclusion where appropriate and it was "disingenuous and worrying" for Gibb to claim that the coming bill would empower schools to use exclusion more. She said: "Whilst it is absolutely right that teachers and support staff should be able to do their jobs without fear of assault, exclusion should always be a last resort. "There needs to be far more support and resources provided by government to prevent such serious incidents from occurring, investment in staff development and support for pupils so that behaviour problems are dealt with effectively rather than allowed to escalate into serious incidents." Sara Gadzik, of the Association for School and College Leaders, said: "The figures prove that schools are already tough on discipline and that poor behaviour is not tolerated in classrooms. Pupils who disrupt the learning of their classmates are dealt with firmly and, in many cases, a short suspension is an effective way of nipping bad behaviour in the bud." ...

What has an old article from 2011 about British schools got to do with aboriginal feral students?

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 10:28am:

Oh my god. Its universal. Teachers of British Aboriginals are experiencing the same problems but far worse. Australian Aboriginals less than one case a day. British Aboriginals are committing 800+ incidents a day of classroom violence:

Yes, it's undoubtedly true that Mass immigration hasn't been kind to Britain.

Negro kids brought up on muthaf*cker American ghetto-hood gangsta muzik ... Muslim kids brought up in a culture that relegates women to a lowly status and deserving of abuse and insult for being infidels ... etc.

It's been a Horror Story in the classrooms of Britain.

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 10:37am:

What has an old article from 2011 about British schools got to do with aboriginal feral students?

Its about Aboriginals; British Aboriginals.

Mr. Hammer, you have taken to many head shots and bent a lot of nails.

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 10:40am:

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 12th, 2016 at 10:28am: Oh my god. Its universal. Teachers of British Aboriginals are experiencing the same problems but far worse. Australian Aboriginals less than one case a day. British Aboriginals are committing 800+ incidents a day of classroom violence: Yes, it's undoubtedly true that Mass immigration hasn't been kind to Britain. Negro kids brought up on muthaf*cker American ghetto-hood gangsta muzik ... Muslim kids brought up in a culture that relegates women to a lowly status and deserving of abuse and insult for being infidels ... etc. It's been a Horror Story in the classrooms of Britain.

Herbert, you are lucky you are of German and Irish descent and weren't subjected to this problem, jawohl.

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 10:41am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 12th, 2016 at 10:37am: What has an old article from 2011 about British schools got to do with aboriginal feral students? Its about Aboriginals; British Aboriginals. Mr. Hammer, you have taken to many head shots and bent a lot of nails.

Britain is multicultural you know. How do you know they were all white kids (British aboriginals) mucking up?

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 10:43am:

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 12th, 2016 at 10:41am: Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 12th, 2016 at 10:37am: What has an old article from 2011 about British schools got to do with aboriginal feral students? Its about Aboriginals; British Aboriginals. Mr. Hammer, you have taken to many head shots and bent a lot of nails. Britain is multicultural you know. How do you know they were all white kids (British aboriginals) mucking up?

If it was blacks and immigrants it would be in flashing lights in the news.

The problem in the UK is 10 times worse on a per capita basis than the problem among Australian Aboriginals.

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 10:43am:

Herbert, you are lucky you are of German and Irish descent and weren't subjected to this problem, jawohl.

My 'Irish' stopped in the 12th century when my clan moved to Scotland to be employed as a private militia for a certain well-known Scottish clan, eventually joining the Black Watch and the Black and Tans ... the foregoers of Hitler's SS.

My loyalty belongs to the Anglosphere.

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 10:49am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 12th, 2016 at 10:43am: Unforgiven wrote on Sep 12th, 2016 at 10:41am: Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 12th, 2016 at 10:37am: What has an old article from 2011 about British schools got to do with aboriginal feral students? Its about Aboriginals; British Aboriginals. Mr. Hammer, you have taken to many head shots and bent a lot of nails. Britain is multicultural you know. How do you know they were all white kids (British aboriginals) mucking up? If it was blacks and immigrants it would be in flashing lights in the news.

not necessarily.

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 10:50am:

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 12th, 2016 at 10:43am: Herbert, you are lucky you are of German and Irish descent and weren't subjected to this problem, jawohl. My 'Irish' stopped in the 12th century when my clan moved to Scotland to be employed as a private militia for a certain well-known Scottish clan, eventually joining the Black Watch and the Black and Tans ... the foregoers of Hitler's SS. My loyalty belongs to the Anglosphere.

So you are denying being an adherent of Hitler?

This violence in British Aboriginal schools portends decline and doom for British society.

Herbert is an example of what could happen to UK; loveless, UK refugees who are forced to emigrate and regret it for the rest of their lives in displays of remorseful, tearful, Anglophilia.

Please stand. God save the Queen.

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 11:36am:

This violence in British Aboriginal schools portends decline and doom for British society. Herbert is an example of what could happen to UK; loveless, UK refugees who are forced to emigrate and regret it for the rest of their lives in displays of remorseful, tearful, Anglophilia. Please stand. God save the Queen.

Still ashamed to tell us your national background.

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 12:05pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 12th, 2016 at 11:36am: This violence in British Aboriginal schools portends decline and doom for British society. Herbert is an example of what could happen to UK; loveless, UK refugees who are forced to emigrate and regret it for the rest of their lives in displays of remorseful, tearful, Anglophilia. Please stand. God save the Queen. Still ashamed to tell us your national background.

He's a boong or a paki......

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 12:08pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 12th, 2016 at 12:05pm: Unforgiven wrote on Sep 12th, 2016 at 11:36am: This violence in British Aboriginal schools portends decline and doom for British society. Herbert is an example of what could happen to UK; loveless, UK refugees who are forced to emigrate and regret it for the rest of their lives in displays of remorseful, tearful, Anglophilia. Please stand. God save the Queen. Still ashamed to tell us your national background. He's a boong or a paki......

What a chip on the shoulder. What a complex. Hates his own skin like Michael Jackson did.

Maybe we should crowdfund Unforgiven a new coat of paint - something a little lighter that he won't resent so much.

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 12:08pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 12th, 2016 at 12:05pm: Unforgiven wrote on Sep 12th, 2016 at 11:36am: This violence in British Aboriginal schools portends decline and doom for British society. Herbert is an example of what could happen to UK; loveless, UK refugees who are forced to emigrate and regret it for the rest of their lives in displays of remorseful, tearful, Anglophilia. Please stand. God save the Queen. Still ashamed to tell us your national background. He's a boong or a paki......

Would you care to bet your remaining incendiary testicle on that?

Britain is being destroyed by foreigners.

You'll notice the judge in this piece is terrified of being accused of 'racism', and so only speaks about whites - and not Muslims or Negroes who pack Britain's jails like sardines in a can.


link

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 12:40pm:

Britain is being destroyed by foreigners. You'll notice the judge in this piece is terrified of being accused of 'racism', and so only speaks about whites - and not Muslims or Negroes who pack Britain's jails like sardines in a can. link

How appropriate for Herr Fritz Sean O'Herbert, Ozpolitic's designated Anglophile, to quote Pontius the guy who refused to give Jesus a fair trial.

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 11:17am:

So you are denying being an adherent of Hitler?

Always the personal questions while saying nothing about yourself. You don't deserve conversations here with people who have told us something about themselves.

You deserve to be told to "f ck off" by the vast majority of the membership here.

Just a smartarse taking pot-shots through glory holes in your closet.

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 3:25pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 12th, 2016 at 11:17am: So you are denying being an adherent of Hitler? Always the personal questions while saying nothing about yourself. You don't deserve conversations here with people who have told us something about themselves. You deserve to be told to "f ck off" by the vast majority of the membership here. Just a smartarse taking pot-shots through glory holes in your closet.

Dear Herr Fritz Sean O'Herbert, Ozpolitic designated Anglophile, does that mean I should not expect a Christmas card from you?

This talk of aborigines this  aborigines that is far too broad a brush stroke.

It would be like me calling all Poms soap dodging whingers

Oh

... dear O dear O dear ... Here we go again:

link

"They probably did not realise that I was Aboriginal.

I'll bet they didn't, and Andrew Bolt knows why too, doesn't he?

WAY too many faux Abos swanning around out there who are 99% white Caucasians.

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 8:58pm:

... dear O dear O dear ... Here we go again: link "They probably did not realise that I was Aboriginal. I'll bet they didn't, and Andrew Bolt knows why too, doesn't he? WAY too many faux Abos swanning around out there who are 99% white Caucasians.

Herr Fritz Sean O'Herbert, Ozpolitic designated Anglophile; a lot of non-Anglo Anglophiles are resentful of the fact they weren't born British.  :'( :'( :'( :'(