What the hell's going on?

Suicide is forever. What is their problem?

I still can't get a handle on this epidemic of suicides amongst the returned soldiers.

Did the WWII vets chalk up a huge suicide rate too?

Cognitive dissonance.

They are propagandized, dogmatized and trained to hate and kill people. When they come back to their homes and they are no longer allowed to hate and kill people their minds implode as they come to the realization that what they did in the ADF is not acceptable in their home environment.

47 ADF personnel suicided this year alone.

can't be true ... bigol tells us they all get on with the job without whinging 

John Smith wrote on Sep 8^th, 2016 at 9:15pm:

bigol tells us they all get on with the job without whinging

And that is precisely the problem numbnuts. They toughen it out, until they can no longer do so.

lee wrote on Sep 8^th, 2016 at 9:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:15pm: bigol tells us they all get on with the job without whinging And that is precisely the problem numbnuts. They toughen it out, until they can no longer do so.

killing yourself is not 'getting on with the job' ... it's the ultimate whinge

John Smith wrote on Sep 8^th, 2016 at 9:19pm:

killing yourself is not 'getting on with the job' ... it's the ultimate whinge

It's sure not whinging about it.

John Smith wrote on Sep 8^th, 2016 at 9:19pm:

lee wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:18pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:15pm: bigol tells us they all get on with the job without whinging And that is precisely the problem numbnuts. They toughen it out, until they can no longer do so. killing yourself is not 'getting on with the job' ... it's the ultimate whinge

I have never been a sympathiser with a person who suicides.  Never has it happened in my Family, but it has happened with the brother of an old school mate of mine.  Mate was in the Army (now retired Major,) and his brother, John...killed himself while still in the Army.  Not sure of his rank.  Seems to be an issue needing investigation.

lee wrote on Sep 8^th, 2016 at 9:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:19pm: killing yourself is not 'getting on with the job' ... it's the ultimate whinge It's sure not whinging about it.

disagree,  like I said, it's the ultimate whinge.

And it's a cop out for cowards.

John Smith wrote on Sep 8^th, 2016 at 9:26pm:

disagree,  like I said, it's the ultimate whinge. And it's a cop out for cowards.

Are you from BankWest?

until you walk in their shoes >:(

......some are very judgmental and you can bet your grandmother they have never known someone who has killed themselves. its a huge issue 47 death in one year alone is huge...and I am not sure we are doing enough to find the whys and causes....surely someone is looking at the common denominator...as we know there wasnt an epidemic of suicides after WW11....what is going on????.....what was/is the difference....are all these suicides male???....were they all sent to the same war zones...do they only commit suicide when they return home???......someone must be looking at this very seriously...no I dont know what it is like to lose someone like this...but I would never think of them as cowards as a returned soldier.. far from it...is it  our coping mechanism that is breaking down...

There's currently a petition going on Change.org if anyone feels moved to sign it.

Petitioning Department of Veterans Affairs Veterans Affairs
Homeless Heroes


Quote:

When you slip into your warm bed tonight,  over 100 veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan wars will sleep rough in parks around Australia. Cold,  hungry and suffering Post Traumatic Stress Disorder as a result of service to their country, these brave veterans deserve better. They need a place to shower, to eat, to sleep and to talk to other veterans who understand what they are going through.  But where do they go? Sent to war by the very government who now ignores them at a time when our veterans need them most. Don't remember our veterans just on Anzac Day, the 25th of April each year then abandon our service men and women for the next 364 days. Sign this petition to shame the government into setting up a veterans refuge in every capital city of Australia to help our hero veterans.  They deserve nothing less.

https://www.change.org/p/veterans-affairs-homeless-heroes?tk=qoAki9pd6SkANVDZYdgT1UOzx4ivUjkM2ZGlH2JgQO0&utm_source=petition_update&utm_medium=email

I know all about it, and have been raising that issue for years now.  It is a disgrace.

Anybody who voluntarily joins the military has got to have existing mental health problems.

John Smith wrote on Sep 8^th, 2016 at 9:26pm:

lee wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:24pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:19pm: killing yourself is not 'getting on with the job' ... it's the ultimate whinge It's sure not whinging about it. disagree,  like I said, it's the ultimate whinge. And it's a cop out for cowards.

Youre a know nothing pissant on the subject. why comment.

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 1:11am:

Anybody who voluntarily joins the military has got to have existing mental health problems.

Agreed. Law enforcement as well. Why would anyone want to work for the Man?

“They wrote in the old days that it is sweet and fitting to die for one's country. But in modern war, there is nothing sweet nor fitting in your dying. You will die like a dog for no good reason.”


― Ernest Hemingway

rhino wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 1:13am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:26pm: lee wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:24pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:19pm: killing yourself is not 'getting on with the job' ... it's the ultimate whinge It's sure not whinging about it. disagree,  like I said, it's the ultimate whinge. And it's a cop out for cowards. Youre a know nothing pissant on the subject. why comment.

Explain what you know about suicide Rhino or STFU.

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 1:16am:

rhino wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 1:13am: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:26pm: lee wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:24pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:19pm: killing yourself is not 'getting on with the job' ... it's the ultimate whinge It's sure not whinging about it. disagree,  like I said, it's the ultimate whinge. And it's a cop out for cowards. Youre a know nothing pissant on the subject. why comment. Explain what you know about suicide Rhino or STFU.

What would you like to know?

Aussie wrote on Sep 8^th, 2016 at 9:25pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:19pm: lee wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:18pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:15pm: bigol tells us they all get on with the job without whinging And that is precisely the problem numbnuts. They toughen it out, until they can no longer do so. killing yourself is not 'getting on with the job' ... it's the ultimate whinge I have never been a sympathiser with a person who suicides.  Never has it happened in my Family, but it has happened with the brother of an old school mate of mine.  Mate was in the Army (now retired Major,) and his brother, John...killed himself while still in the Army.  Not sure of his rank.  Seems to be an issue needing investigation.

If they were shirkers, the military prisons would have more troops in them than the front lines.... that they do not is proof that the troops do tough it out.  My experience is that it is hard to get troopers to actually voice their feelings and such - and when I've been in groups for PTSD re-programming, I've had doubts about those who do.  they seem too practiced to me, and I know some who are.... but it's a game to get a pension for some, which I do not deny them or criticise them for.

The fact that they have to 'learn their lines' shows how piss-poor the real handling of the very real issues is.

I will soon be working for the Sub-Branch and the Veterans - after I finish renos to suit the disabled ex - and I can assure you I will not be criticising any man (or woman) who comes in.  I've known men who went to Rwanda, one Infantry and another a commissioned officer in Nursing Corps - they were both in a bad way, regardless of the fact that they did no experience direct combat as such, but saw many things.

Any Digger who can get past the temple dogs - the guardians at the gate - is all right with me, and this country owes Active Service men and women a life back home.

John Smith wrote on Sep 8^th, 2016 at 9:15pm:

47 ADF personnel suicided this year alone. can't be true ... bigol tells us they all get on with the job without whinging

Good to see you can find a small way to amuse yourself at the deaths of Australia's ADF personnel who have killed themselves after years of personal torment..

Well done, you should be very proud of this posts. It pretty much sums you u, doesn't it?


Fkken socialist; this is the reason I despise you pieces of sh1t.

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 1:11am:

Anybody who voluntarily joins the military has got to have existing mental health problems.

What the fkk would you know about the ADF or anything except what your believe form you conspiraloon web sites; your opinion is irrelevant you loon.

Not enough politicians and senior public servants commit suicide.
Nowhere near enough, I think a figure of ......oh...say around 80% would be acceptable, but 99% would be ideal.


But seriously.
The ADF and our wonderful narcissistic politicians and bean counting public servants care nothing for anyone but themselves.
They expect our soldiers to go off to wars that they them,selves are too cowardly to fight, expect them to put their lives on the line and then come back as normal people at the end of it all.

This is not like a video game people.
They suffer hardships we couldn't dream (or nightmare) about.
They see death and suffering of their comrades, the enemy and innocent people and children.
Any normal person, some members of this forum excepted, would be mentally scarred for life.

But what does Govco do, they ignore the problem and hope it goes away.
Govco refuse to provide help and simply sit back and wring their hands and cry crocodile tears while they count their perks.

Perhaps the Army needs to give Govco a kick in the arse and get them to realize that there is a problem.
Perhaps a few shots at politicians from a sniper would make these vegetables realize that other people in this world matter not just them.

rhino wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 1:13am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:26pm: lee wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:24pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:19pm: killing yourself is not 'getting on with the job' ... it's the ultimate whinge It's sure not whinging about it. disagree,  like I said, it's the ultimate whinge. And it's a cop out for cowards. Youre a know nothing pissant on the subject. why comment.

how many times have you suicided?

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 5:27am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:15pm: 47 ADF personnel suicided this year alone. can't be true ... bigol tells us they all get on with the job without whinging  Good to see you can find a small way to amuse yourself at the deaths of Australia's ADF personnel who have killed themselves after years of personal torment.. Well done, you should be very proud of this posts. It pretty much sums you u, doesn't it? Fkken socialist; this is the reason I despise you pieces of sh1t.

who said there was any amusement?
Fkken more ons; this is the reason I despise you pieces of sh1t.

John Smith wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 7:41am:

rhino wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 1:13am: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:26pm: lee wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:24pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:19pm: killing yourself is not 'getting on with the job' ... it's the ultimate whinge It's sure not whinging about it. disagree,  like I said, it's the ultimate whinge. And it's a cop out for cowards. Youre a know nothing pissant on the subject. why comment. how many times have you suicided?

Wouldn't expect anything less from a clown like you Jack.

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 8:00am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 7:41am: rhino wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 1:13am: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:26pm: lee wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:24pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:19pm: killing yourself is not 'getting on with the job' ... it's the ultimate whinge It's sure not whinging about it. disagree,  like I said, it's the ultimate whinge. And it's a cop out for cowards. Youre a know nothing pissant on the subject. why comment. how many times have you suicided? Wouldn't expect anything less from a clown like you Jack.

your expectations are your problem ... I can see why you have low expectations though, If I spent my life as you I would too!

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 8^th, 2016 at 8:58pm:

What the hell's going on? Suicide is forever. What is their problem? I still can't get a handle on this epidemic of suicides amongst the returned soldiers. Did the WWII vets chalk up a huge suicide rate too?

Yes they actually did.

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 8^th, 2016 at 9:11pm:

Cognitive dissonance. They are propagandized, dogmatized and trained to hate and kill people.

Absolute bullshit of commercial quality. You'd make a fortune as a wholesale fertiliser agent for the market-gardening farming communities.

The problem is EXACTLY the opposite to what you say. They go into combat zones with most of their civilian morals, ethics, and values still intact and dominant in their mindset.

That's why they return to civilian life as such mental wrecks who have compromised their social values to the extent that they are morally conflicted to the degree of wanting to commit suicide by way of apology.

How many air and navy personnel are suiciding? I dare say 'Zero' .. and that's because they do everything by remote. No faces.

John Smith wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 7:43am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 5:27am: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:15pm: 47 ADF personnel suicided this year alone. can't be true ... bigol tells us they all get on with the job without whinging  Good to see you can find a small way to amuse yourself at the deaths of Australia's ADF personnel who have killed themselves after years of personal torment.. Well done, you should be very proud of this posts. It pretty much sums you u, doesn't it? Fkken socialist; this is the reason I despise you pieces of sh1t. who said there was any amusement? Fkken nice people; this is the reason I despise you pieces of sh1t.

You're the one making light of the situation you fkking dolt!

You are trying to be funny with a puerile comment and it just makes you look like a bigger scumbag that your are, which is quite difficult considering.

Sad statistic,

I heard that the other day, more died by suicide this year than all killed in Afghanistan.


Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 8:33am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 8:58pm: What the hell's going on? Did the WWII vets chalk up a huge suicide rate too? Yes they actually did.

Good to see that put to rest, like a lot of things in those days they didnt come to the attention of a 24/7 news service as we have now.

Nor did these things get reported to the authorities like today

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 8:58am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 7:43am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 5:27am: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:15pm: 47 ADF personnel suicided this year alone. can't be true ... bigol tells us they all get on with the job without whinging  Good to see you can find a small way to amuse yourself at the deaths of Australia's ADF personnel who have killed themselves after years of personal torment.. Well done, you should be very proud of this posts. It pretty much sums you u, doesn't it? Fkken socialist; this is the reason I despise you pieces of sh1t. who said there was any amusement? Fkken nice people; this is the reason I despise you pieces of sh1t. You're the one making light of the situation you fkking dolt! You are trying to be funny with a puerile comment and it just makes you look like a bigger scumbag that your are, which is quite difficult considering.

I wasn't making light of anything you cretin .. .you are the one who always tells us how ADF personnel wouldn't whinge or make excuses, they just get on with the job. I'm just pointing out to you the error of your ways.

John Smith wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 9:33am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 8:58am: John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 7:43am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 5:27am: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:15pm: 47 ADF personnel suicided this year alone. can't be true ... bigol tells us they all get on with the job without whinging  Good to see you can find a small way to amuse yourself at the deaths of Australia's ADF personnel who have killed themselves after years of personal torment.. Well done, you should be very proud of this posts. It pretty much sums you u, doesn't it? Fkken socialist; this is the reason I despise you pieces of sh1t. who said there was any amusement? Fkken nice people; this is the reason I despise you pieces of sh1t. You're the one making light of the situation you fkking dolt! You are trying to be funny with a puerile comment and it just makes you look like a bigger scumbag that your are, which is quite difficult considering. I wasn't making light of anything you cretin .. .you are the one who always tells us how ADF personnel wouldn't whinge or make excuses, they just get on with the job. I'm just pointing out to you the error of your ways.

Mate you are a fkken clown and should be ashamed of yourself.

Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 9:17am:

Sad statistic, I heard that the other day, more died by suicide this year than all killed in Afghanistan. Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 8:33am: Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 8:58pm: What the hell's going on? Did the WWII vets chalk up a huge suicide rate too? Yes they actually did. Good to see that put to rest, like a lot of things in those days they didnt come to the attention of a 24/7 news service as we have now. Nor did these things get reported to the authorities like today

http://www.news.com.au/national/the-tragic-heroism-of-squadron-leader-bungey/story-e6frfkp9-1225857832232


It just wasn't talked about as much. Vets were expected to come home and just bury everything deep down.

My grandfather served in the BCOF after the war in Japan and even he woke up screaming at night.

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 9:46am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:33am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 8:58am: John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 7:43am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 5:27am: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:15pm: 47 ADF personnel suicided this year alone. can't be true ... bigol tells us they all get on with the job without whinging  Good to see you can find a small way to amuse yourself at the deaths of Australia's ADF personnel who have killed themselves after years of personal torment.. Well done, you should be very proud of this posts. It pretty much sums you u, doesn't it? Fkken socialist; this is the reason I despise you pieces of sh1t. who said there was any amusement? Fkken nice people; this is the reason I despise you pieces of sh1t. You're the one making light of the situation you fkking dolt! You are trying to be funny with a puerile comment and it just makes you look like a bigger scumbag that your are, which is quite difficult considering. I wasn't making light of anything you cretin .. .you are the one who always tells us how ADF personnel wouldn't whinge or make excuses, they just get on with the job. I'm just pointing out to you the error of your ways. Mate you are a fkken clown and should be ashamed of yourself.

That's ok, I understand your frustration, being proven an idiot all the time must be hard to deal with. How do you live with it?

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 9:56am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:17am: Sad statistic, I heard that the other day, more died by suicide this year than all killed in Afghanistan. Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 8:33am: Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 8:58pm: What the hell's going on? Did the WWII vets chalk up a huge suicide rate too? Yes they actually did. Good to see that put to rest, like a lot of things in those days they didnt come to the attention of a 24/7 news service as we have now. Nor did these things get reported to the authorities like today http://www.news.com.au/national/the-tragic-heroism-of-squadron-leader-bungey/story-e6frfkp9-1225857832232 It just wasn't talked about as much. Vets were expected to come home and just bury everything deep down. My grandfather served in the BCOF after the war in Japan and even he woke up screaming at night.

Yes I remember my father in law who suffered from "shell shock" they called it from WW2, even many years later poor bastard would almost collapse in fright if someone made a sudden noise.

I also wonder if todays more sedentary lifestyle at work and home may contribute to the inability to get over war related PTSD. I think hard physical work or exercise certainly helps with stress related problems.

John Smith wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 9:59am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:46am: John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:33am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 8:58am: John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 7:43am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 5:27am: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:15pm: 47 ADF personnel suicided this year alone. can't be true ... bigol tells us they all get on with the job without whinging  Good to see you can find a small way to amuse yourself at the deaths of Australia's ADF personnel who have killed themselves after years of personal torment.. Well done, you should be very proud of this posts. It pretty much sums you u, doesn't it? Fkken socialist; this is the reason I despise you pieces of sh1t. who said there was any amusement? Fkken nice people; this is the reason I despise you pieces of sh1t. You're the one making light of the situation you fkking dolt! You are trying to be funny with a puerile comment and it just makes you look like a bigger scumbag that your are, which is quite difficult considering. I wasn't making light of anything you cretin .. .you are the one who always tells us how ADF personnel wouldn't whinge or make excuses, they just get on with the job. I'm just pointing out to you the error of your ways. Mate you are a fkken clown and should be ashamed of yourself. That's ok, I understand your frustration, being proven an idiot all the time must be hard to deal with. How do you live with it?

Still with the jokes about suicide, hey?

You must be a lonely little piece of sh1t, with that sort of fkked up attitude.

Typical of the socialist coward, hey grub?

Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 10:07am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:56am: Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:17am: Sad statistic, I heard that the other day, more died by suicide this year than all killed in Afghanistan. Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 8:33am: Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 8:58pm: What the hell's going on? Did the WWII vets chalk up a huge suicide rate too? Yes they actually did. Good to see that put to rest, like a lot of things in those days they didnt come to the attention of a 24/7 news service as we have now. Nor did these things get reported to the authorities like today http://www.news.com.au/national/the-tragic-heroism-of-squadron-leader-bungey/story-e6frfkp9-1225857832232 It just wasn't talked about as much. Vets were expected to come home and just bury everything deep down. My grandfather served in the BCOF after the war in Japan and even he woke up screaming at night. Yes I remember my father in law who suffered from "shell shock" they called it from WW2, even many years later poor bastard would almost collapse in fright if someone made a sudden noise. I also wonder if todays more sedentary lifestyle at work and home may contribute to the inability to get over war related PTSD. I think hard physical work or exercise certainly helps with stress related problems.

Not sure, before I make that sort of judgement, I'd like to see the evidence showing its increased with the recent wars.

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 10:33am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:59am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:46am: John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:33am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 8:58am: John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 7:43am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 5:27am: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:15pm: 47 ADF personnel suicided this year alone. can't be true ... bigol tells us they all get on with the job without whinging  Good to see you can find a small way to amuse yourself at the deaths of Australia's ADF personnel who have killed themselves after years of personal torment.. Well done, you should be very proud of this posts. It pretty much sums you u, doesn't it? Fkken socialist; this is the reason I despise you pieces of sh1t. who said there was any amusement? Fkken nice people; this is the reason I despise you pieces of sh1t. You're the one making light of the situation you fkking dolt! You are trying to be funny with a puerile comment and it just makes you look like a bigger scumbag that your are, which is quite difficult considering. I wasn't making light of anything you cretin .. .you are the one who always tells us how ADF personnel wouldn't whinge or make excuses, they just get on with the job. I'm just pointing out to you the error of your ways. Mate you are a fkken clown and should be ashamed of yourself. That's ok, I understand your frustration, being proven an idiot all the time must be hard to deal with. How do you live with it? Still with the jokes about suicide, hey? You must be a lonely little piece of sh1t, with that sort of fkked up attitude. Typical of the socialist coward, hey grub?

Not sure what part was difficult for you but I already told you I wasn't making any jokes. You can say the word socialist as often as you like, it won't help you. All it does is highlight just how stupid you are. You should probably learn the definition of the word 'socialist' before using it in a sentence again.

The people who join the military voluntarily are either homicidal maniacs or suicidal maniacs. If they weren't so at enlistment then the hate propaganda the military uses to dehumanize the enemy and make killing easier will make them so.

When they leave the military their profession and experience of killing people has no value in society and they become unemployable nobodies.

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/57040537.jpg

John Smith wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 12:27pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 10:33am: John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:59am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:46am: John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:33am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 8:58am: John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 7:43am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 5:27am: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:15pm: 47 ADF personnel suicided this year alone. can't be true ... bigol tells us they all get on with the job without whinging  Good to see you can find a small way to amuse yourself at the deaths of Australia's ADF personnel who have killed themselves after years of personal torment.. Well done, you should be very proud of this posts. It pretty much sums you u, doesn't it? Fkken socialist; this is the reason I despise you pieces of sh1t. who said there was any amusement? Fkken nice people; this is the reason I despise you pieces of sh1t. You're the one making light of the situation you fkking dolt! You are trying to be funny with a puerile comment and it just makes you look like a bigger scumbag that your are, which is quite difficult considering. I wasn't making light of anything you cretin .. .you are the one who always tells us how ADF personnel wouldn't whinge or make excuses, they just get on with the job. I'm just pointing out to you the error of your ways. Mate you are a fkken clown and should be ashamed of yourself. That's ok, I understand your frustration, being proven an idiot all the time must be hard to deal with. How do you live with it? Still with the jokes about suicide, hey? You must be a lonely little piece of sh1t, with that sort of fkked up attitude. Typical of the socialist coward, hey grub? Not sure what part was difficult for you but I already told you I wasn't making any jokes. You can say the word socialist as often as you like, it won't help you. All it does is highlight just how stupid you are. You should probably learn the definition of the word 'socialist' before using it in a sentence again.

Then you should learn to shut your fkken mouth in future before you make any bullsh1t comment about another person. This is not the place to be a lying filthy little grub, now is it.

A socialist is any scumbag, self serving, 'jack', peice of lying sh1t. Pretty much covers it, doesn't it?

Now run along p1ssant, your opinions are worthless here.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 12:31pm:

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/57040537.jpg

Gee another scumbag socialist who thinks servicemen and women suicide is a moment for levity; why am I not surprised.

Same applied to you as applies to that other idiot.

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 12:29pm:

The people who join the military voluntarily are either homicidal maniacs or suicidal maniacs. If they weren't so at enlistment then the hate propaganda the military uses to dehumanize the enemy and make killing easier will make them so. When they leave the military their profession and experience of killing people has no value in society and they become unemployable nobodies.

Is this from your consprialoon web site, or is this an original fantasy you made up all by yourself?

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 12:57pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 12:29pm: The people who join the military voluntarily are either homicidal maniacs or suicidal maniacs. If they weren't so at enlistment then the hate propaganda the military uses to dehumanize the enemy and make killing easier will make them so. When they leave the military their profession and experience of killing people has no value in society and they become unemployable nobodies. Is this from your consprialoon web site, or is this an original fantasy you made up all by yourself?

No need to make anything up. Bighole64 provides sufficient evidence of the truth of the statement about homicidal maniacs.

Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 9:17am:

Sad statistic, I heard that the other day, more died by suicide this year than all killed in Afghanistan. Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 8:33am: Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 8:58pm: What the hell's going on? Did the WWII vets chalk up a huge suicide rate too? Yes they actually did. Good to see that put to rest, like a lot of things in those days they didnt come to the attention of a 24/7 news service as we have now. Nor did these things get reported to the authorities like today

suicide is always reported red... and I remember reading that suicides during war years were almost at zero ... it goes to show they have other things on their minds to worry about.. some cannot help themselves worrying over everything..

I think we have more self harm as well these day.. I do not recall anyone ever doing themselves harm in my young days... like cutting for instance...yet its more than common today....

maybe it is too easy today,  and the slightest hint of not getting what we want sends some into a "I cant cope with this" situation....

cods wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 1:03pm:

... I remember reading that suicides during war years were almost at zero...

Suicides would not be reported from the front for morale purposes.

John Smith wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 9:59am:

being proven an idiot.

I agree, with your expertise Jack, maybe you could write a book.

Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 9:17am:

Sad statistic, I heard that the other day, more died by suicide this year than all killed in Afghanistan. Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 8:33am: Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 8:58pm: What the hell's going on? Did the WWII vets chalk up a huge suicide rate too? Yes they actually did. Good to see that put to rest, like a lot of things in those days they didnt come to the attention of a 24/7 news service as we have now. Nor did these things get reported to the authorities like today

There was a 1974 Australian movie called "Between Wars" on this subject.

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 1:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:59am: being proven an idiot. I agree, with your expertise Jack, maybe you could write a book.

Picture book would be more appropriate for Fireball.

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 1:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:59am: being proven an idiot. I agree, with your expertise Jack, maybe you could write a book.

Maybe you could read one.

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 1:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:59am: being proven an idiot. I agree, with your expertise Jack, maybe you could write a book.

If you want someone to write your autobiography you'll need to look elsewhere.

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 1:15pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 1:08pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:59am: being proven an idiot. I agree, with your expertise Jack, maybe you could write a book. Picture book would be more appropriate for Fireball.

Yep, with those silly dot, dot, dot pictures the natives scrawl...........

dot, dot, dot..... ;D ;D ;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 1:18pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 1:08pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:59am: being proven an idiot. I agree, with your expertise Jack, maybe you could write a book. Maybe you could read one.

There ya go haemorrhoid, hanging out of Jack..... ;D ;D ;D

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 12:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 12:27pm: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 10:33am: John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:59am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:46am: John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:33am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 8:58am: John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 7:43am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 5:27am: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:15pm: 47 ADF personnel suicided this year alone. can't be true ... bigol tells us they all get on with the job without whinging  Good to see you can find a small way to amuse yourself at the deaths of Australia's ADF personnel who have killed themselves after years of personal torment.. Well done, you should be very proud of this posts. It pretty much sums you u, doesn't it? Fkken socialist; this is the reason I despise you pieces of sh1t. who said there was any amusement? Fkken nice people; this is the reason I despise you pieces of sh1t. You're the one making light of the situation you fkking dolt! You are trying to be funny with a puerile comment and it just makes you look like a bigger scumbag that your are, which is quite difficult considering. I wasn't making light of anything you cretin .. .you are the one who always tells us how ADF personnel wouldn't whinge or make excuses, they just get on with the job. I'm just pointing out to you the error of your ways. Mate you are a fkken clown and should be ashamed of yourself. That's ok, I understand your frustration, being proven an idiot all the time must be hard to deal with. How do you live with it? Still with the jokes about suicide, hey? You must be a lonely little piece of sh1t, with that sort of fkked up attitude. Typical of the socialist coward, hey grub? Not sure what part was difficult for you but I already told you I wasn't making any jokes. You can say the word socialist as often as you like, it won't help you. All it does is highlight just how stupid you are. You should probably learn the definition of the word 'socialist' before using it in a sentence again. Then you should learn to shut your fkken mouth in future before you make any bullsh1t comment about another person. This is not the place to be a lying filthy little grub, now is it. A socialist is any scumbag, self serving, 'jack', peice of lying sh1t. Pretty much covers it, doesn't it? Now run along p1ssant, your opinions are worthless here.

or what you're going to cry? Stop playing the hero. Trust me, you ain't up to the task. Especially if you're going to be a hypocrite about it. You comment about people all the time ... yet you want to cry if someone else does? ;D ;D

You seem to be under the impression that only someone who has served in the defense force can make a legitimate comment on the defense force or it's personnel. Welcome to reality stupid.

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 1:00pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 12:57pm: Unforgiven wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 12:29pm: The people who join the military voluntarily are either homicidal maniacs or suicidal maniacs. If they weren't so at enlistment then the hate propaganda the military uses to dehumanize the enemy and make killing easier will make them so. When they leave the military their profession and experience of killing people has no value in society and they become unemployable nobodies. Is this from your consprialoon web site, or is this an original fantasy you made up all by yourself? No need to make anything up. Bighole64 provides sufficient evidence of the truth of the statement about homicidal maniacs.

More conspiracies numpty?

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 1:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 1:18pm: Fuzzball wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 1:08pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:59am: being proven an idiot. I agree, with your expertise Jack, maybe you could write a book. Maybe you could read one. There ya go haemorrhoid ...

Wherever there's a haemorrhoid, there's an arsehole.

Wherever I post, there's Fuzzball.

http://www.pointandclickbait.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/smug-man-720x340.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 1:28pm:

Wherever there's a haemorrhoid, there's an arsehole.

And you post everywhere don't you haemorrhoid.......so naturally you'd be hanging out of an arsehole.......sorry Jack just had to say it.........Preparation 'H' might help Jack....... but ridding yourself of your twin haemorrhoid might prove difficult unless you go for surgical intervention.....

John Smith wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 1:24pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 12:53pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 12:27pm: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 10:33am: John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:59am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:46am: John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 9:33am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 8:58am: John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 7:43am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 5:27am: John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:15pm: 47 ADF personnel suicided this year alone. can't be true ... bigol tells us they all get on with the job without whinging  Good to see you can find a small way to amuse yourself at the deaths of Australia's ADF personnel who have killed themselves after years of personal torment.. Well done, you should be very proud of this posts. It pretty much sums you u, doesn't it? Fkken socialist; this is the reason I despise you pieces of sh1t. who said there was any amusement? Fkken nice people; this is the reason I despise you pieces of sh1t. You're the one making light of the situation you fkking dolt! You are trying to be funny with a puerile comment and it just makes you look like a bigger scumbag that your are, which is quite difficult considering. I wasn't making light of anything you cretin .. .you are the one who always tells us how ADF personnel wouldn't whinge or make excuses, they just get on with the job. I'm just pointing out to you the error of your ways. Mate you are a fkken clown and should be ashamed of yourself. That's ok, I understand your frustration, being proven an idiot all the time must be hard to deal with. How do you live with it? Still with the jokes about suicide, hey? You must be a lonely little piece of sh1t, with that sort of fkked up attitude. Typical of the socialist coward, hey grub? Not sure what part was difficult for you but I already told you I wasn't making any jokes. You can say the word socialist as often as you like, it won't help you. All it does is highlight just how stupid you are. You should probably learn the definition of the word 'socialist' before using it in a sentence again. Then you should learn to shut your fkken mouth in future before you make any bullsh1t comment about another person. This is not the place to be a lying filthy little grub, now is it. A socialist is any scumbag, self serving, 'jack', peice of lying sh1t. Pretty much covers it, doesn't it? Now run along p1ssant, your opinions are worthless here. or what you're going to cry? Stop playing the hero. Trust me, you ain't up to the task. Especially if you're going to be a hypocrite about it. You comment about people all the time ... yet you want to cry if someone else does? ;D ;D You seem to be under the impression that only someone who has served in the defense force can make a legitimate comment on the defense force or it's personnel. Welcome to reality stupid.

Haven't I told to to fkk off yet, my bad


Here is your reality; Fkk off clown.

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 1:34pm:

Haven't I told to to fkk off yet, my bad

haven't i told you that I don't give a sh1t what you say? If ever it gets to the point where I care what you say, I'll kill myself ... and I despise people who think suicide is the answer, so you'd best not be holding your breath waiting for that to happen.

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 1:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 1:28pm: Wherever there's a haemorrhoid, there's an arsehole. And you post everywhere don't you haemorrhoid.......so naturally you'd be hanging out of an arsehole.......sorry Jack just had to say it.........Preparation 'H' might help Jack....... but ridding yourself of your twin haemorrhoid might prove difficult unless you go for surgical intervention.....

Wherever there's a haemorrhoid, there's an arsehole.

Wherever I post, there's Fuzzball.

https://i.imgflip.com/6oswj.jpg

War zones are notorious for being utter boredom for 95% of the time - and terrifying for 5% of the time.

And it's the 95% of the time that creates the problems - it's then that they develop their addictions to alcohol and illicit drugs, get syphilis and  gonorrhea, and a gambling habit.

You'll often hear the widow of a suicided soldier telling '4Corners' or whichever, that "upon his return home he began to drink heavily".

Well, actually, no. He began to drink heavily months before he came home .. mostly to handle excruciating boredom.

They're all playing in the sandpit again.

Why the hell do I bother?

..

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 2:05pm:

... they develop their addictions to alcohol and illicit drugs, get syphilis and  gonorrhea, and a gambling habit.

http://cdn1-www.musicfeeds.com.au/assets/uploads/coke-sign-671x377.png

John Smith wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 1:38pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 1:34pm: Haven't I told to to fkk off yet, my bad haven't i told you that I don't give a sh1t what you say? If ever it gets to the point where I care what you say, I'll kill myself ... and I despise people who think suicide is the answer, so you'd best not be holding your breath waiting for that to happen.

Probably why you wrote that puerile attempt at humour and trying to implicate me in the process, you are just a POS sub-human after all.

Maybe you should just fkk off somewhere scumbags like you are appreciated or at least tolerated.

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 2:40pm:

Probably why you wrote that puerile attempt at humour and trying to implicate me in the process, you are just a POS sub-human after all.

wasn't trying to 'implicate' anything ... I was showing you just how stupid your comments are ....  afterall, you seem to think they just 'shut up and get on with it without the whinging'. Until it gets to hard, right?


BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 2:40pm:

Maybe you should just fkk off somewhere scumbags like you are appreciated or at least tolerated.

yeah ... that's all you've got isn't it? swear like a 12 yr old and think it makes up for your lack of intelligence. Except most 12 yr old already know how puerile that is. Really, why do you even bother?  ;D ;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 2:47pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 2:40pm: Probably why you wrote that puerile attempt at humour and trying to implicate me in the process, you are just a POS sub-human after all. wasn't trying to 'implicate' anything ... I was showing you just how stupid your comments are ....  afterall, you seem to think they just 'shut up and get on with it without the whinging'. Until it gets to hard, right? BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 2:40pm: Maybe you should just fkk off somewhere scumbags like you are appreciated or at least tolerated. yeah ... that's all you've got isn't it? swear like a 12 yr old and think it makes up for your lack of intelligence. Except most 12 yr old already know how puerile that is. Really, why do you even bother?  ;D ;D ;D

Never made any statement of the sort nor would I you tool. I have a lot of sympathy for those service men and women doing it hard and have a better understanding of the situation then loud mouthed fkktards like your self.

So you have made a total fool of yourself by lying about what I said.


As for my swearing, fkk sake harden up princess

'John Smith' knows the plight of returned servicemen well from his 16 hour a day 'job' posting safely from his isolated armchair.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 3:34pm:

'John Smith' knows the plight of returned servicemen well from his 16 hour a day 'job' posting safely from his isolated armchair.

as opposed to you, right?

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 3:01pm:

Never made any statement of the sort nor would I you tool

bullsh1t ...

John Smith wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 3:35pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 3:34pm: 'John Smith' knows the plight of returned servicemen well from his 16 hour a day 'job' posting safely from his isolated armchair. as opposed to you, right?

İ'd say facing death is different from sitting in a chair screwing people over for commission.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 3:38pm:

... İ'd say facing death is different from sitting in a chair screwing people over for commission...

Facing death from boredom, alcoholism or suicide?

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 3:34pm:

'John Smith' knows the plight of returned servicemen well from his 16 hour a day 'job' posting safely from his isolated armchair.

he got a paper cut once or twice you know. and hes played "Tour of duty" on his xbox.

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 3:47pm:

Facing death from boredom, alcoholism or suicide.

Do you need counselling?

John Smith wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 3:35pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 3:01pm: Never made any statement of the sort nor would I you tool bullsh1t ...

Checked every post here, you are the only one who made that statement, you did state it was me, ya lying scumbag.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 3:38pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 3:35pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 3:34pm: 'John Smith' knows the plight of returned servicemen well from his 16 hour a day 'job' posting safely from his isolated armchair. as opposed to you, right? İ'd say facing death is different from sitting in a chair screwing people over for commission.

no one said any different ... now you were going to tell me about your experience?

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 4:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 3:35pm: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 3:01pm: Never made any statement of the sort nor would I you tool bullsh1t ... Checked every post here, you are the only one who made that statement, you did state it was me, ya lying scumbag.

No one said anything about a post on this thread  ... you have a history of telling us how no one in the ADF would ever whinge like a socialist blah blah blah you crap on about .

John Smith wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 4:30pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 4:18pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 3:35pm: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 3:01pm: Never made any statement of the sort nor would I you tool bullsh1t ... Checked every post here, you are the only one who made that statement, you did state it was me, ya lying scumbag. No one said anything about a post on this thread  ... you have a history of telling us how no one in the ADF would ever whinge like a socialist blah blah blah you crap on about .

So I was right you are a filthy lying scumbag. Never said anything of the sort, you were just looking to troll over the bodies of dead servicemen and women.

Fkk you are one low piece of sh1t sub human being aren't you?

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 4:44pm:

So I was right

I doubt you've ever been right in your life.


BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 4:44pm:

you were just looking to troll over the bodies of dead servicemen and women.

no, just looking to show you the error of your ways

I'm sure we've covered this before... are you that thick that I have to repeat it 3 or 4 times per day?

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 3:38pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 3:35pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 3:34pm: 'John Smith' knows the plight of returned servicemen well from his 16 hour a day 'job' posting safely from his isolated armchair. as opposed to you, right? İ'd say facing death is different from sitting in a chair screwing people over for commission.

gosh who does that????...

how anyone can judge anyone who has served his country I will never know....when 47 valuable people kill themselves we have to find WHY...giving fancy names to something is not my idea of solving anything.. >:(

cods wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 5:33pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 3:38pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 3:35pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 3:34pm: 'John Smith' knows the plight of returned servicemen well from his 16 hour a day 'job' posting safely from his isolated armchair. as opposed to you, right? İ'd say facing death is different from sitting in a chair screwing people over for commission. gosh who does that????... how anyone can judge anyone who has served his country I will never know....

Does that go for any country, cods?

John Smith wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 5:11pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 4:44pm: So I was right I doubt you've ever been right in your life. BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 4:44pm: you were just looking to troll over the bodies of dead servicemen and women. no, just looking to show you the error of your ways I'm sure we've covered this before... are you that thick that I have to repeat it 3 or 4 times per day?

You lied nothing more and lied so you could troll, dead service men and women who unfortunately committed suicide; because as you said 'you despise people who commit suicide'.


You only showed everyone here what a truly despicable sub- human being you really are.


So for the last time you are a liar and a low piece of sh1t who gets off on trolling dead service personnel who have committed suicide , basically because you despise them.


Well done champ, you're a fkking dog

cods wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 5:33pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 3:38pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 3:35pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 3:34pm: 'John Smith' knows the plight of returned servicemen well from his 16 hour a day 'job' posting safely from his isolated armchair. as opposed to you, right? İ'd say facing death is different from sitting in a chair screwing people over for commission. gosh who does that????... how anyone can judge anyone who has served his country I will never know....when 47 valuable people kill themselves we have to find WHY...giving fancy names to something is not my idea of solving anything.. >:(

John smith does that for sh1ts and giggles because he just despises them; nice sort of bloke that he is.

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 6:12pm:

John smith does that for sh1ts and giggles because he just despises them; nice sort of bloke that he is.

you don't judge them? then how do you determine that they are above reprieve?

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 6:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 5:11pm: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 4:44pm: So I was right I doubt you've ever been right in your life. BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 4:44pm: you were just looking to troll over the bodies of dead servicemen and women. no, just looking to show you the error of your ways I'm sure we've covered this before... are you that thick that I have to repeat it 3 or 4 times per day? You lied nothing more and lied so you could troll, dead service men and women who unfortunately committed suicide; because as you said 'you despise people who commit suicide'. You only showed everyone here what a truly despicable sub- human being you really are. So for the last time you are a liar and a low piece of sh1t who gets off on trolling dead service personnel who have committed suicide , basically because you despise them. Well done champ, you're a fkking dog

Does your sympathy extend to these service personnel?

http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/media/images/73205000/jpg/_73205988_624_kamikaze-pilot.jpg

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 6:09pm:

You lied nothing more and lied so you could troll, dead service men and women who unfortunately committed suicide; because as you said 'you despise people who commit suicide'.

not a single lie in anything I said ... if you're to ashamed to own what you said that's your problem.


BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 6:09pm:

You only showed everyone here what a truly despicable sub- human being you really are.

or what a dumb idiot you are


BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 6:09pm:

So for the last time you are a liar and a low piece of sh1t who gets off on trolling dead service personnel who have committed suicide , basically because you despise them.

I despise ANYONE who thinks suicide is the answer. .. that they are ex servicemen is neither here nor there


BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 6:09pm:

Well done champ, you're a fkking dog

more childish swearing to show just how retarded and purile you are? no need to prove it to me .. I already know what a retard you are!

cods wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 5:33pm:

how anyone can judge anyone who has served his country I will never know....

if you don't judge them how do you know they are above reproach?

Here we go bigol ... lets see who was lying. There are many other examples out there but I'm not going to bother searching for them .. you usually can't wait to tell us how defence force 'get things done instead of whinging'


BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 12:24pm:

Mind you ask anyone with a wife & children who served in the ADF this same question they will have the same contempt for your lack of spine as I do. They get things done. Being a little socialist princess has not helped you in life at all, has it? What you consider impossible most of us consider only a minor hurdle.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1472850583;virboard=;quote=21;title=PostReply

Grow up all you childish d1ck heads!

Jesus Christ how stupid all this you said this stuff!

FFS

:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 7:01pm:

Grow up all you childish d1ck heads! Jesus Christ how stupid all this you said this stuff! FFS :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

You got that right
+1

>:( >:( >:(

rhino wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 4:00pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 3:47pm: Facing death from boredom, alcoholism or suicide. Do you need counselling?

Not from losers like Rhino or its ilk.

Soldiers should be looked after a whole lot better when they return home from active service.

The Govt. throws them back into society with little or no help
after the soldiers have experienced severe mental & physical trauma.

The rate of suicides is totally unacceptable.

*

John Smith wrote on Sep 9^th, 2016 at 6:35pm:

Here we go bigol ... lets see who was lying. There are many other examples out there but I'm not going to bother searching for them .. you usually can't wait to tell us how defence force 'get things done instead of whinging' BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 12:24pm: Mind you ask anyone with a wife & children who served in the ADF this same question they will have the same contempt for your lack of spine as I do. They get things done. Being a little socialist princess has not helped you in life at all, has it? What you consider impossible most of us consider only a minor hurdle. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1472850583;virboard=;quote=21;title=PostReply

That was about getting a job you fool, not about dealing with post traumatic stress resulting from the horrors of combat resulting in suicide.


For Fkk Sake, you are out of control.


You are just getting off on trolling for likes on the subject of ADF suicides and for that you beyond contempt.

'DON'T FEED THE TROLL'

It really is that easy. They live off emotional responses.

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2016 at 7:38am:

That was about getting a job you fool, not about dealing with post traumatic stress resulting from the horrors of combat resulting in suicide. For Fkk Sake, you are out of control.

in that particular case, yes ... but it's not the only time you made such comments. I even told you I was referring to another thread  ... what I said was

can't be true ... bigol tells us they all get on with the job without whinging

to which you spent most of yesterday denying you ever said it. I can't blame you for denying it though, you had no choice .. it was either that, or admit you were an idiot.

John Smith wrote on Sep 10^th, 2016 at 8:39am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 10th, 2016 at 7:38am: That was about getting a job you fool, not about dealing with post traumatic stress resulting from the horrors of combat resulting in suicide. For Fkk Sake, you are out of control. in that particular case, yes ... but it's not the only time you made such comments. I even told you I was referring to another thread  ... what I said was can't be true ... bigol tells us they all get on with the job without whinging to which you spent most of yesterday denying you ever said it. I can't blame you for denying it though, you had no choice .. it was either that, or admit you were an idiot.

You made the statement in the context of THIS thread, a thread about ADF personnel killing themselves due to the traumas they have endured during their service. I have never made any such statement in this context; you are a liar.


Trolling dead servicemen and women to get your jollies, you truly are a total piece of sh1t sub human, aren't you?




If you want to make those comments in the bullsh1t context they apply, then do so in the appropriate thread you dolt!

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2016 at 9:06am:

You made the statement in the context of THIS thread, a thread about ADF personnel killing themselves due to the traumas they have endured during their service. I have never made any such statement in this context; you are a liar.

English is not your first language I take it? I've told you several times previously what my comment was about. You keep telling us how they get on with the job, just as long as that job doesn't involve dealing with reality, right? :D :D

Are you going to start crying now because someone dare not worship dead ex serviceman? To me it makes no difference if they are ex servicemen or ex cons, anyone who thinks suicide is an answer is a coward and I have nothing but contempt for them or you for that matter.

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2016 at 9:06am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2016 at 8:39am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 10th, 2016 at 7:38am: That was about getting a job you fool, not about dealing with post traumatic stress resulting from the horrors of combat resulting in suicide. For Fkk Sake, you are out of control. in that particular case, yes ... but it's not the only time you made such comments. I even told you I was referring to another thread  ... what I said was can't be true ... bigol tells us they all get on with the job without whinging to which you spent most of yesterday denying you ever said it. I can't blame you for denying it though, you had no choice .. it was either that, or admit you were an idiot. You made the statement in the context of THIS thread, a thread about ADF personnel killing themselves due to the traumas they have endured during their service. I have never made any such statement in this context; you are a liar. Trolling dead servicemen and women to get your jollies, you truly are a total piece of sh1t sub human, aren't you? If you want to make those comments in the bullsh1t context they apply, then do so in the appropriate thread you dolt!

There is no evidence that any of the suicide perpetrators suffered any trauma apart from occasionally not being able to get beer when they wanted.

They killed themselves because they realized they wasted their lives by enlisting in a system that thrives on hate and death and that the ADF salesmen had lied to them about glory and career.

When they're done with the cannon fodder, the ADF boots them out with no skills other than sycophancy, blind obedience, hating and killing people.

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Aussie wrote on Sep 10^th, 2016 at 10:20am:

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Go on Aussie! - You know you wanna!

A serious subject has been reduced to a bun-fight, post after post after post. You wallow in these sort of inane distractions. Go on - don't be shy!

The fact that they are virtually unable to find a decent job outside these days doesn't help.

One guy I know, who was looking after one my then firearms, would not apply for Unemployment Benefit, could not find a job, and finally decided to rob a bank.  He was pulled over by a cop for having different number plates front and back - got two years for planning a heist.

When he got out, my kid's mother found him a job driving for film crews.

Bloody disgrace that our current economic climate is so drear and so deadly to those who've earned their way.

Oh, yes - I lost that firearm, too - it was in the car at the time.

When I start working for the Sub-Branch and the Vets Association, I will be pushing for far better treatment for them all, men and women.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 10^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

The fact that they are virtually unable to find a decent job outside these days doesn't help. One guy I know, who was looking after one my then firearms, would not apply for Unemployment Benefit, could not find a job, and finally decided to rob a bank.  He was pulled over by a cop for having different number plates front and back - got two years for planning a heist. When he got out, my kid's mother found him a job driving for film crews. Bloody disgrace that our current economic climate is so drear and so deadly to those who've earned their way. Oh, yes - I lost that firearm, too - it was in the car at the time. When I start working for the Sub-Branch and the Vets Association, I will be pushing for far better treatment for them all, men and women.

What are they qualified for after they leave ADF? Nothing but blind obedience!

ADF is just obedience training for humans after which the former ADF personnel go through mental trauma trying to find someone to be their master and to order them when to wake, eat, s h i t and sleep just like they were trained.

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 10^th, 2016 at 1:58pm:

What are they qualified for after they leave ADF? Nothing but blind obedience! ADF is just obedience training for humans after which the former ADF personnel go through mental trauma trying to find someone to be their master and to order them when to wake, eat, s h i t and sleep just like they were trained.

Horse fritters!

You've been watching too many Hollywood movies instead of documentaries like myself.

The training is all about 'cultural sensitivity' - and 'respecting' other's cultures no matter how backward and neurotic they are, and "don't be judgmental", and remembering you are an ambassador for Australia, etc etc ... 

All touchy-feely-huggy soft-cock nonsense.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 10^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

The fact that they are virtually unable to find a decent job outside these days doesn't help.

I suspect it might have a lot to do with it ... to put your life on the line for your country only to find that your country has abandoned you once you are no longer suitable as cannon fodder.

John Smith wrote on Sep 10^th, 2016 at 2:27pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 10th, 2016 at 1:16pm: The fact that they are virtually unable to find a decent job outside these days doesn't help. I suspect it might have a lot to do with it ... to put your life on the line for your country only to find that your country has abandoned you once you are no longer suitable as cannon fodder.

There are jobs aplenty.

Just ask Centrelink and the scores of government-subsidised private Employment Agencies.

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 10^th, 2016 at 2:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2016 at 2:27pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 10th, 2016 at 1:16pm: The fact that they are virtually unable to find a decent job outside these days doesn't help. I suspect it might have a lot to do with it ... to put your life on the line for your country only to find that your country has abandoned you once you are no longer suitable as cannon fodder. There are jobs aplenty. Just ask Centrelink and the scores of government-subsidised private Employment Agencies.

Yeah. But they don't give you free beer like the ADF does.

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 10^th, 2016 at 6:52pm:

Yeah. But they don't give you free beer like the ADF does.

Really?? Is that a new thing? Never had it in the 70's and 80's.

Or are you just talking shyte as usual?

lee wrote on Sep 10^th, 2016 at 7:07pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 10th, 2016 at 6:52pm: Yeah. But they don't give you free beer like the ADF does. Really?? Is that a new thing? Never had it in the 70's and 80's. Or are you just talking shyte as usual?

'70s and '80s.

Unless you're suggesting that something belonged to the '70s and '80s.

Let's investigate this issue to find any common causes.

Firstly, were these 47 suicide perpetrators all acquaintances of Herbert?

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 10^th, 2016 at 8:29pm:

lee wrote on Sep 10th, 2016 at 7:07pm: Unforgiven wrote on Sep 10th, 2016 at 6:52pm: Yeah. But they don't give you free beer like the ADF does. Really?? Is that a new thing? Never had it in the 70's and 80's. Or are you just talking shyte as usual? '70s and '80s. Unless you're suggesting that something belonged to the '70s and '80s.

Lee has loose vowels.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 10^th, 2016 at 8:29pm:

lee wrote on Sep 10th, 2016 at 7:07pm: Unforgiven wrote on Sep 10th, 2016 at 6:52pm: Yeah. But they don't give you free beer like the ADF does. Really?? Is that a new thing? Never had it in the 70's and 80's. Or are you just talking shyte as usual? '70s and '80s. Unless you're suggesting that something belonged to the '70s and '80s.

The suggestion is they get free beer. Some proof would be nice. Something to say it is true. Because to my knowledge it never has been. But I can only vouch for the 70's and 80's when I served.

lee wrote on Sep 10^th, 2016 at 8:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 10th, 2016 at 8:29pm: lee wrote on Sep 10th, 2016 at 7:07pm: Unforgiven wrote on Sep 10th, 2016 at 6:52pm: Yeah. But they don't give you free beer like the ADF does. Really?? Is that a new thing? Never had it in the 70's and 80's. Or are you just talking shyte as usual? '70s and '80s. Unless you're suggesting that something belonged to the '70s and '80s. The suggestion is they get free beer. Some proof would be nice. Something to say it is true. Because to my knowledge it never has been. But I can only vouch for the 70's and 80's when I served.

Served beer?

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 10^th, 2016 at 9:55pm:

Served beer?

I did that too. I have served summons too. What else do you want to know I served?

But seeing as you haven't backed up your claim; you are just talking shyte as usual.

lee wrote on Sep 10^th, 2016 at 10:33pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 10th, 2016 at 9:55pm: Served beer? I did that too. I have served summons too. ...

Consider yourself served.

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 10^th, 2016 at 6:52pm:

Yeah. But they don't give you free beer like the ADF does.

Is this what your conspiracy youtube web site tells you is it? You must have been told this as cowards aren't ones for enlisting so which web site told you this, genius.

Is there no stupidity you won't believe. You conspiraloons are incapable of rational thought of any kind.

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2016 at 5:02pm:

Is this what your conspiracy youtube web site tells you is it? You must have been told this as cowards are ones for enlisting so which web site told you this, genius. Is there no stupidity you won't believe. You conspiraloons are incapable of rational thought of any kind.

Stoppit! You're killing me.

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 11^th, 2016 at 11:09am:

lee wrote on Sep 10th, 2016 at 10:33pm: Unforgiven wrote on Sep 10th, 2016 at 9:55pm: Served beer? I did that too. I have served summons too. ... Consider yourself served.

No one ordered steaming turds.

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 11^th, 2016 at 5:09pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 11th, 2016 at 5:02pm: Is this what your conspiracy youtube web site tells you is it? You must have been told this as cowards are ones for enlisting so which web site told you this, genius. Is there no stupidity you won't believe. You conspiraloons are incapable of rational thought of any kind. Stoppit! You're killing me.

Your own stupidity will take care of you, no need for me to step in.

rhino wrote on Sep 11^th, 2016 at 5:47pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 11th, 2016 at 11:09am: lee wrote on Sep 10th, 2016 at 10:33pm: Unforgiven wrote on Sep 10th, 2016 at 9:55pm: Served beer? I did that too. I have served summons too. ... Consider yourself served. No one ordered steaming turds.

Why did Rhino turn up then?

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2016 at 6:08pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 11th, 2016 at 5:09pm: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 11th, 2016 at 5:02pm: Is this what your conspiracy youtube web site tells you is it? You must have been told this as cowards are ones for enlisting so which web site told you this, genius. Is there no stupidity you won't believe. You conspiraloons are incapable of rational thought of any kind. Stoppit! You're killing me. Your own stupidity will take care of you, no need for me to step in.

How so? Bighole64 is thriving on the most abject stupidity.