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Title: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by bogarde73 on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:13am

It occurs to me that there are no threads here, not one, that set out to champion Hillary Clinton.
There is one that wants to tell us how great Obama has been, although I saw a telling comment this morning - "If only Obama could govern as well as he speaks". Which is the sad truth about him, "all mouth and no trousers".

But there haven't been pages of comments about what Hillary said or what Hillary is going to do, except some on the negative. Why is this?

I can only surmise that it's because people prefer to dwell on hate.
There has been no shortage of comment from Trump haters about Trump but previous little from Hillary admirers about Hillary.
Maybe there's nothing to admire about her. I may think that but I couldn't possibly say so.

Not that this is something confined to US politics. People seem consumed with hate about so many things - Brexit, Turnbull, Abbott, on & on it goes.

If Clinton is a shining light why are there not people here running threads about the great promise she will bring?
I find promise in Trump and I say so. Not necessarily in Trump the.person but in the opposition to the progressive route. Why is this not happening on the Clinton side?

Is there nothing positive to write about? Or is being a hater just more fun?

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:21am

I don't think there are many Clinton supporters in here.

The only reason I'm happy to see her win in November, is because her opponent is a socopathic, ignorant liar (accused of gang raping a child) who wouldn't know his arse from his elbow.

That doesn't mean I admire Hillary, though.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Gordon on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:27am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:21am:

This is counter intuitive Greggy, a kind of thought process I've not seen you participate in, but try get your binary head around this.

All Hillary will do is keep the status quo. Trump is the ultimate end product of everything that's wrong with the USA. I reckon it would be better for him to be President for 4 years and let the pendulum finish it's swing and maybe Americans will start to crave better politicians.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Honky on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:38am

You don't hear from Clinton supporters because there aren't any. Well, outside her base of old, single, bitter women, hence the support from gweg.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:42am

... wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:38am:

You don't hear from Clinton supporters because there aren't any. Well, outside her base of old, single, bitter women, hence the support from gweg.

I'm not a Clinton supporter.

I've said so on numerous occasions.

I actually agree with you: there aren't any supporters in here.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:46am

Gordon wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:21am:

I disagree with you: Trump is dangerous.

Not that it matters anyway, because he won't win in November.

Save this post, and see how right I am.

Hillary will win (more comfortably than most expect).

Trump will stomp his feet, say it was rigged, and threaten to call a new election (because he's a dill) and even threaten legal action.

Despite that, I'm no fan of Hillary's.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Honky on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:46am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:42am:

I'm not a Clinton supporter.

Oh? So these words are not yours?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:21am:

I'm happy to see her win in November

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:48am

... wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:46am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:42am:

I'm not a Clinton supporter.

Oh? So these words are not yours?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:21am:

I'm happy to see her win in November

They certainly are mine, and I'll repeat them: I'm happy to see her win in November.

I'm not a supporter, though.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Gordon on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:49am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:46am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:21am:

You do know that Hilary will probably be more hawkish than Trump?

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Marla on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:52am

Good ol' Boey. Being the gadfly.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Honky on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:53am

He knows, but he doesn't care, because he is literally terrified of the masculine virtues that Trump represents.

He hates to see any attempt at growth, progress or improvement because it reminds him how much he has wasted by succumbing to his crippling fear of failure.

Also, the decay and destruction that Clinton represents plays right into gwegs ideology - nihilism.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 9:14am

Gordon wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:46am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:21am:

You do know that Hilary will probably be more hawkish than Trump?

There's a good chance, yes.

Still a better alternative than Trump, though.

At least Hillary will have some idea of what she's doing.

Trump would struggle to find the door to the oval office.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Marla on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 9:18am

Gordon wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:49am:

You do know that Hilary will probably be more hawkish than Trump?

probably be?

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by cods on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 9:59am

boges is it more and more about the PERSON rather than the PARTY..and its policies????>.....

seems that way these days....we need to get back to what the Party stands for thereby stands the leader..

we have seen the divide in the Republican camp... they do not all endorse Thump..

I dont know about you but to me division is not a good or healthy thing...

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by bogarde73 on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 10:07am

Marla wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:52am:

Good ol' Boey. Being the gadfly.

Am I really constantly irritating?

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 10:08am

cods wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 9:59am:

boges is it more and more about the PERSON rather than the PARTY..and its policies????>.....

They have a different system to ours, cods.

Their Constitution actually bestows the executive power of the United States in the president.

So, it is very much about the person (to a certain extent).

In Australia, we don't even have the office of PM mentioned in the Constitution.

Having said that, there's no mention of political parties either.

I agree, though: more attention should be paid to policies.

The problem is, Trump doesn't have any (no realistic ones, that is).

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by bogarde73 on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 10:10am

cods wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 9:59am:

And you didn't see the division in the Democrats?
Compared to the Dem Convention the Republicans were a garden party.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 10:11am

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 10:07am:

Marla wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:52am:

Good ol' Boey. Being the gadfly.

Am I really constantly irritating?

An Art Pepper fan.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Fireball on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 11:13am

Once you asked that question, the usual blowflies start buzzing round. There aren't many who support a corrupt power-hungry pair of cheats like the Klingons. Anybody who thinks that the US will be better off by putting that little fat bug-eyed be-atch in the Oval Office is mentally deficient.

America's last chance to 'go to the front of the line' is Donald Trump.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 12:23pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 11:13am:

America's last chance to 'go to the front of the line' is Donald Trump.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Fireball on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 12:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 12:23pm:

America's last chance to 'go to the front of the line' is Donald Trump.

Agreed.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Agnes on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 2:00pm

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/big_tent/Suffolk-poll-Hillary-pulls-ahead-of-Trump-in-PA.html?mobi=true

Thoroughly endorsed by the Obama's, Hilary is pulling ahead. Obama's speech at the convention center almost moved me to tears yesterday. Possibly one of the best speakers I have ever seen or heard.. He has been a brilliant President in the face of much negativity and lies thrown at him, not to mention governing the US at a tough time in its history. Grace and dignity personify Barack Obama.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Agnes on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 2:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 12:23pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 11:13am:

America's last chance to 'go to the front of the line' is Donald Trump.

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Fireball on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 2:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 12:23pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 11:13am:

America's last chance to 'go to the front of the line' is Donald Trump.

That little meme of Stefanovic compliments you haemorrhoid, two dolts together...... he makes a fool of himself every morning, and so do you haemorrhoid. ;D ;D

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 3:24pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 11:13am:

America's last chance to 'go to the front of the line' is Donald Trump.

Here are all the times Donald Trump has been accused of rape or attempted rape

" ... Trump raped her back in 1994, when she was just 13 years old. According to legal docs, Doe says she attended parties with Trump and his friend Jeffrey Epstein—a registered sex offender known in the media as the “billionaire pedophile.” Doe, who was trying to become a model, says it was during these parties that Trump initiated sexual contact with her on several occasions and on one occasion allegedly raped her.

"According to the suit, Trump tied her to a bed, exposed himself to her and then raped her in a “savage sexual attack.” Doe says she screamed for him to stop at which point he struck her in the face while screaming “that he would do whatever he wanted.” In a statement filed with the lawsuit, Doe says Trump threatened to ruin her life and her family’s life if she ever told anyone about the incident ... "

No wonder Fireball likes him so much.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 3:24pm

Agnes wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 2:00pm:

hiliary is a proven corrupt liar.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Agnes on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 4:04pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 3:24pm:

Agnes wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 2:00pm:

hiliary is a proven corrupt liar.

So is Trump so your point is- added to that and more importantly Sprint he is abjectly stupid, she is not- that is the scary part.

Show me ONE Politician who has not lied.. honest politicians they don't exist.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by bogarde73 on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 4:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 10:11am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 10:07am:

Marla wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:52am:

Good ol' Boey. Being the gadfly.

Am I really constantly irritating?

An Art Pepper fan.

Art Pepper (aka Art Salt) was transformational in my life.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 5:28pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGRo1mH2_8w

Hundreds of Empty DNC Seats for Hillary Clinton Coronation Speech 26th July 2016

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 5:37pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 4:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 10:11am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 10:07am:

Marla wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:52am:

Good ol' Boey. Being the gadfly.

Am I really constantly irritating?

An Art Pepper fan.

Art Pepper (aka Art Salt) was transformational in my life.

A drug addict, and convicted criminal.

Hmmm.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 5:40pm

Agnes wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 4:04pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 3:24pm:

Agnes wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 2:00pm:

hiliary is a proven corrupt liar.

good to see you agree hiliary is a corrupt liar.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Agnes on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 6:31pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 5:40pm:

Agnes wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 4:04pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 3:24pm:

Agnes wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 2:00pm:

hiliary is a proven corrupt liar.

good to see you agree hiliary is a corrupt liar.

Yes she is, Trump is too- she just happens to be the lesser of the two evils..

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 6:57pm

enjoy your vote for her then.

I think many votes for her will be solely because she is a female.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Fireball on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 7:09pm

Agnes wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 6:31pm:

good to see you agree hiliary is a corrupt liar.

Ain't that the truth.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Honky on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 7:31pm

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by cods on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 7:53pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 6:57pm:

enjoy your vote for her then.

I think many votes for her will be solely because she is a female.

are you claiming men dont vote for men because they are male???????>...

I think we can be sure some men wouldnt vote for a women purely because she is a women..

so bigots are all around us..

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Fireball on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:02pm

There are many so called 'liberated' women in the US (see Marla) who will vote for that horrible women Hilary Clinton purely because she's a women, and these sad females just want to see the first female President irrespective of how corrupt she is. There are also lot of non white women who'll do the same because they despise Donald Trump, not because Clinton would be in any way better at running the country.

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:27pm

cods wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 7:53pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 6:57pm:

enjoy your vote for her then.

I think many votes for her will be solely because she is a female.

are you claiming men dont vote for men because they are male???????>...

I think we can be sure some men wouldnt vote for a women purely because she is a women..

so bigots are all around us..

sure, some men will vote for trump because he is a man.

a big card hiliary is playing is that she is a woman.
it is through and through her campaign.

I would not vote for a man who lied and was as corrupt as hiliary was.
she is amoral

Title: Re: Why don't we hear from Clinton supporters?
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 8:30pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VL5S6sVR2s

I would not vote for a woman that did this.