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Title: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 12:08am

Government moves towards indefinite detention for some terrorists in push for new anti-terror laws

Australia is taking a step towards indefinite detention for some convicted terrorists, with the Federal Government pushing for legislation in every state so terrorists could be kept in jail after their sentences expire if a court says they would reoffend.
...

Keeping terrorists in jail after their sentence expires raises legal concerns about procedural fairness and double punishment.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-25/government-push-for-new-anti-terror-laws/7656494

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by The Grappler on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 12:36am

Wait until they want indefinite detention for their own citizens..... not joking... we are on the way there already...

Oops - sorry - I thought you were talking about refugees...

There have been several disturbing moves in legislation in recent years, starting in the early 1990's with the 'domestic violence' issue, with its automatic finding of guilt and its criminalisation of people on complaint....... at that time I associated that move with the POTA laws (Prevention of Terrorism Act) in Britain, which stipulated that a person's contacts and movement could be circumscribed and limited, even though they had not been convicted of any genuine offence. Furthermore, a breach of such restrictions lead to a criminal conviction - this is precisely the style of legalised abuse of law set in place here by our respective governments (I will take this opportunity to thank our learned member, Longie, for opening up argument on these issues earlier), to cater to the victim industry surrounding inter-personal relationship complaints.

Another part of such legislation was that a person suspected of an act of terrorism could be held longer than the statutory 24 hours without charge... up to 72 I think it was.

We have also seen that in some cases a government will apply a regulatory extension of detention on a person who has completed sentence for a convicted offence.. such as paedophiles and rapists etc... none of whom garner much in the way of public sympathy. This is a deliberate undermining by regulation of the rights of the courts - who despite their blatant hypocrisy, wrongful leaning against accused persons, and blithe acceptance of nonsense as evidence, remain our only barrier to an overwhelming dictatorship of government and its arms of law enforcement.

There are similarities here to the 'commission' into domestic violence, which took in masses of anecdotal evidence from remote Aboriginal communities rife with abuse and alcoholism etc, and then extrapolated the findings of that 'study' to the entire community, thus automatically creating of any person alleged to have committed some wrong a person subject to legal intervention, regardless of facts and evidence, and thus creating an environment of 'conviction on accusation'.

The problem with this, even though nobody has sympathy for rapists, abusers and paedophiles etc, is that such actions must always be seen as the thin edge of the wedge in a calculated attack on Civil and Legal Rights here and now... and in reality has been for nearly twenty five years here in Australia.

Now where's Longie to tell me I'm wrong? ::)

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:26am

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 12:08am:

Typical socialist you can always find a reason to release a filthy criminals out into the streets to carry on as usual; does't matter if they are terrorists, rapists or paedophiles they all get released.

This is why the death penalty is the preferred method of punishment.

But never fear the scumbag lawyers and magistrates will have your terrorist mates back on the streets killing whitey before you can say thanks, ya PoS. >:(

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:01am

It's a good idea if they still pose a threat.

We can't have terrorists on our streets.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by miketrees on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 7:00am

Green Wanker could you explain "Fascist Right"

Is this a feeble attempt to label and denigrate ideas other than your own.

The "Wanky Left" censorship

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by philperth2010 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 7:31am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:01am:

It's a good idea if they still pose a threat.

We can't have terrorists on our streets.

I agree Bobby, although I do have reservations about any Government abusing these new laws to label an individuals as a terrorist even if they have not killed anyone but pose a risk no matter how obscure....If the laws are well targeted and have oversight and review processes I think the Government had a duty to protect society from people who have forfeited their right to live amongst law abiding citizens....We do it for serious offenders already and no offence is more heinous that killing your fellow human beings in the name of a God!!!

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by bogarde73 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 7:51am

You're out of date Phil.

Fascism = authoritarianism + intolerance. These characteristics now relate more to the left than the right.
Keep up.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Yadda on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 7:59am

Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1444366972/481#481

Quote:

Dictionary;
discrimination = =
1 the action of discriminating against people.
2 recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another. good judgement or taste.

AND;

Dictionary;
discriminating = = having or showing good taste or judgement.

Some people argue that it is wrong to discriminate.

If that logic is valid, then why don't we [society, collectively] decide to open all of the goals/prisons, and set all of the prisoners inside, free ?

Because, by incarcerating convicted criminals, aren't we [society, collectively] discriminating against their chosen 'lifestyle' ???

And what right, do we have, to do that, to others!!!!

/sarc off

Killing an infidel, is a moslems right, .....to practice his religious freedom!!!!

What right, do we have, to try stop devout moslems, from killing us, in the name of their religion !!!!

You intolerant racist, bigot!!!!

/sarc off

Watch the words coming out of their own [moslem] mouths. !!!!!!

---------- >

Quote:

"What makes Allah happy?

Allah is happy, when kafir get killed."

---------- >

Please watch this YT...

Muslims being deceptive Islam EX-Muslims goto 4m 30s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZx8cNSC9O0

.

IMAGE...

THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST, 2006, IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"
"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"

.

IMAGE....

"Behead those who insult ISLAM"

Islamic Protest - IN AUSTRALIA - on the streets of Sydney from Hyde Park to George Streets, September 15, 2012.

.

AND THIS.....

----------- >

Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW, TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.

Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

Quote:

YT
KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE

"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."

"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by philperth2010 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:05am

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 7:51am:

You're out of date Phil.

Fascism = authoritarianism + intolerance. These characteristics now relate more to the left than the right.
Keep up.

Considering these laws could be used to push authoritarianism and intolerance we should be very wary of allowing any Government to have these powers....If Peter Dutton or Scott Morrison continue down the road of secrecy and silence how do we know what is being done in our name....If it is open and accountable I will support the Government to protect its citizens!!!

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:11am

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 12:08am:

Most states (if not all) already have the power of indefinite detention for sex criminal who are unable or unwilling to control their impulses. I beleive it also applies to violent crims and others. Effectively, the power already exists. This is simply tryig to fomalise what already exists.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:12am

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:05am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 7:51am:

You're out of date Phil.

Fascism = authoritarianism + intolerance. These characteristics now relate more to the left than the right.
Keep up.

I agree with you, but keep in mind that we already have such laws and they are subject to judicial oversight in that you cannot indefinitely retain someone without regular review. With that in place I dont have problems with it. But only as long as their is judicial oversight and regular (eg annual) review.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:19am

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:26am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 12:08am:

So the purpose of jailing isn't rehabilitation, it's revenge.
And the slippery slope continues. It's now indefinite detention for rapists also.
What about motor bike club members ... what about aboriginals ... surely they all will reoffend ?

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by issuevoter on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:26am

Yes, that's right. Blame our government for trying to protect us.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by philperth2010 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:27am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:12am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:05am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 7:51am:

You're out of date Phil.

Fascism = authoritarianism + intolerance. These characteristics now relate more to the left than the right.
Keep up.

The lessons of David Hicks and Dr Haneef have taught us that judicial oversight is not always a safe guard against a Government willing to put politics before justice....As you say as long as their is an open and accountable process the Government must protect its citizens from terrorism!!!

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by salad in on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:29am

This is a bad move. It was made before the obligatory overseas ~~junket~~ fact-finding-mission to Paris, Rome, London, New York, Brussels, and Vienna.

Of course the minister undertaking this most dangerous mission will be accompanied by his or her partner/spouse. Also along for the ride will be the usual retinue; spin doctor, media adviser, secretary, research assisant; and a full pad of travel allowance claim forms.

If the minister is on the ball he or she can coincide the trip to enable him or her to attend the Opéra national de Paris' staging of Eliogabalo at the Palais Garnier. It would be a shame to overwork any of our alleged politicians.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:30am

issuevoter wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:26am:

Yes, that's right. Blame our government for trying to protect us.

Then why release anyone, who could be a risk to society?

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:34am

I would have Death by Firing Squad the standard response for these kind of vermin, and so anything less than Capital Punishment for these subhumans is a travesty of justice.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:38am

salad in wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:29am:

;D ;D ;D

Post du jour!

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Kat on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:40am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:01am:

It's a good idea if they still pose a threat.

We can't have terrorists on our streets.

Better there than to have them in our parliaments and police
'farces' as is currently the case in most of the West.

BRING ON THE WESTERN WAR!!!!

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Redneck on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:47am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:01am:

It's a good idea if they still pose a threat.

We can't have terrorists on our streets.

Totally agree!

Quote BigOl

Quote:

You do speak a lot of crap at time BigOl, don't judge all lefties by what the GreenNut says.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:49am

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:19am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:26am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 12:08am:

As usual, you re ignorant and ill-informed. Indefinite detention must pass through cabinet and be subject to judicial oversight.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:51am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:34am:

I would have Death by Firing Squad the standard response for these kind of vermin, and so anything less than Capital Punishment for these subhumans is a travesty of justice.

Your love of violence and murder is a blight on your character.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:53am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 12:36am:

EVERY post on legal issues has your wanking on endlessly in defence of the AVO that was awarded AGAINST you. Give it up. Even now you basically support perpetrators of domestiviolence - ie YOU.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:56am

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:27am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:12am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:05am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 7:51am:

You're out of date Phil.

Fascism = authoritarianism + intolerance. These characteristics now relate more to the left than the right.
Keep up.

If you are looking for a perfect, equitable and error-free system then you will keep looking. All we can ever do is aim to improve things and rectify our mistakes. I have a lot of sympathy for Haneef but none for Hicks. Haneef literally did nothing at all while Hicks trained with terrorists.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by salad in on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:03am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:53am:

EVERY post on legal issues has your wanking on endlessly.....

And what's wrong with wanking? It's out of control in political circles.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:05am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:49am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:19am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:26am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 12:08am:

As usual, you re ignorant and ill-informed. Indefinite detention must pass through cabinet and be subject to judicial oversight.

The same cabinet that wants to out manoeuvre the far right minor parties and use this as a tool to whack over Labor's head, soon to be claiming they are weak on terror. The same tactic they used on Labor concerning refugees who come by boats.

And as for judicial oversight, you mean the high court judges chosen by the government?

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:32am

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:05am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:49am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:19am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:26am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 12:08am:

As usual, you re ignorant and ill-informed. Indefinite detention must pass through cabinet and be subject to judicial oversight.

point to a single politically-biased High Court decision and you can then make a claim. Up until then, you are simply demonstrating your ignorance of the High court, most of whose members were appointed by both parties many many years ago.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:46am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:05am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:49am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:19am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:26am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 12:08am:

As usual, you re ignorant and ill-informed. Indefinite detention must pass through cabinet and be subject to judicial oversight.

All human decisions have biases behind them ... to pretend humans are mechanical automatons, doesn't assist your position.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Yadda on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 10:17am

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:30am:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:26am:

Yes, that's right. Blame our government for trying to protect us.

Then why release anyone, who could be a risk to society?

Bigot!!!

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Kat on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 10:23am

Yes, the fascist Right SHOULD be detained indefinitely.

Preferably somewhere like Bouvet Is.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 10:40am

Yadda wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 10:17am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:30am:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:26am:

Yes, that's right. Blame our government for trying to protect us.

Then why release anyone, who could be a risk to society?

Bigot!!!

bigot
ˈbɪɡət/
noun
a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

A question doesn't fit the description of a bigot.

Dolt !!!

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by The Grappler on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 10:53am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

Ah - so political appointment automatically means no bias towards the party that made the appointment and their ideology??

I merely ask....

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by The Grappler on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 10:58am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:53am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 12:36am:

EVERY post on legal issues has your wanking on endlessly in defence of the AVO that was awarded AGAINST you. Give it up. Even now you basically support perpetrators of domestiviolence - ie YOU.

My dear fellow - as usual you are totally incorrect - AVOs have nothing to do with violence, but are purported to be a preventative measure of potential violence, and in themselves are proof positive that no violence has taken place.

Therefore your, and others', use of the term 'domestic VIOLENCE' with regard to AVOs and similar is incorrect. The only violence inherent in the handing out of an AVO or similar is int that 'order' being handed out without proper legal right.... and is itself violence writ large upon the community.

It is only those of low intellect and reading skills who imagine that such 'orders' are an automatic conviction FOR violence.

That is precisely why the issues surrounding relationship violence have become so distorted, and also precisely why there is no resolution in sight for this contentious and never-ending issue... an issue that is causing much grief and angst in our community, and is desperately in need of a proper look within the bounds of Law - NOT legislation and other stupidities.

Dare you attempt to discuss detention and POTA etc in the same way? Your evasions are as beneficial to the survival of your position as the maneuvers of an Iraqi MiG in Desert Storm...

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:08am

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:46am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:05am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:49am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:19am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:26am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 12:08am:

As usual, you re ignorant and ill-informed. Indefinite detention must pass through cabinet and be subject to judicial oversight.

All human decisions have biases behind them ... to pretend humans are mechanical automatons, doesn't assist your position.

So why did Cheif Justice Michael Kirby - and openly gay man - vote down the gay marriage attempt? simple. he was voing on the constitution, not his own opinions or bias. Most people have the ability to do the right thing. Just coz you cant....

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:09am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 10:53am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

Ah - so political appointment automatically means no bias towards the party that made the appointment and their ideology??

I merely ask....

Not everyone is as angry, bitter and twisted as you. Labor appointed the GG that dismissed Whitlam.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by The Grappler on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:12am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:09am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 10:53am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

Ah - so political appointment automatically means no bias towards the party that made the appointment and their ideology??

I merely ask....

Not everyone is as angry, bitter and twisted as you. Labor appointed the GG that dismissed Whitlam.

Ah - so there WAS bias in play - or at the very least the expectation that that GG would be biased towards Labor? As an old Labor man himself, there was no bias expected?

Let me fix this for you:-

~~Not everyone is as angry, bitter and twisted as you.~~ Labor appointed the GG that dismissed Whitlam.

Sticking to facts and realities will help your case so much more than personal vitriol and assumptions....

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:35am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:08am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:46am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:05am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:49am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:19am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:26am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 12:08am:

As usual, you re ignorant and ill-informed. Indefinite detention must pass through cabinet and be subject to judicial oversight.

All human decisions have biases behind them ... to pretend humans are mechanical automatons, doesn't assist your position.

Cherry picking season aye.

Biases underpin all human decisions.
To imply sexuality as the dominate influence in queer people's decisions, represents your own bias.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by juliar on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:43am

Greenies_Lose is just pushing the REAL GREENIE "POLICIES"

The REAL GREENIES DESTROY AUSTRALIA POLICIES:

Neo-Communism,
Carbon Alarmism,
Welfarism,
Progressive Bankruptcy,
Sexual Deviance,
Third World Aliens,
Deculturalizing White Australia,
Decriminalizing Narcotics,
Assisted-Suicide,
now Camel Gollies.

Political Correctness
Climate Alarmism
British Invasion Theory
Globalism
Fabian Marxism
Asianisation
Multicultural Prejudice against Traditional Australians
Indebted Welfarism
Mainstreaming Sodomy
and the full suite of Greens Party Policies.
Greens in the Senate

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:57am

Still plagiarising Juliar

Why are you refusing to state your posts are cut and pasted from the australiafistparty website? .

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Kat on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 1:20pm

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 10:40am:

Yadda wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 10:17am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:30am:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:26am:

Yes, that's right. Blame our government for trying to protect us.

Then why release anyone, who could be a risk to society?

Bigot!!!

bigot
ˈbɪɡət/
noun
a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

A question doesn't fit the description of a bigot.

Dolt !!!

That depends upon how it is asked, who asks it, and who is being asked.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Yadda on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 1:28pm

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 10:40am:

Yadda wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 10:17am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:30am:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:26am:

Yes, that's right. Blame our government for trying to protect us.

Then why release anyone, who could be a risk to society?

Bigot!!!

bigot
ˈbɪɡət/
noun
a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

A question doesn't fit the description of a bigot.

Quote:

Then why release anyone, who could be a risk to society?

- Greens_Win

The wording of your question, .....suggests that anyone who is a risk to society, SHOULD BE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.

Now if i were to suggestion such a course, you would be among the first to call me a bigot!!!

No ?

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 1:44pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:12am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:09am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 10:53am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

Ah - so political appointment automatically means no bias towards the party that made the appointment and their ideology??

I merely ask....

Not everyone is as angry, bitter and twisted as you. Labor appointed the GG that dismissed Whitlam.

you debate like a fool. I'm guessing because thats all you are. a fool. and an old fool.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 1:46pm

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:35am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:08am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:46am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:05am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:49am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:19am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:26am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 12:08am:

As usual, you re ignorant and ill-informed. Indefinite detention must pass through cabinet and be subject to judicial oversight.

All human decisions have biases behind them ... to pretend humans are mechanical automatons, doesn't assist your position.

Cherry picking season aye.

Biases underpin all human decisions.
To imply sexuality as the dominate influence in queer people's decisions, represents your own bias.

the question was BIAS in the judicaryand particularly, the High Court. I provided a perfect example of why such bias does not exist.

Naturally, you could not accept it

idiot.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 2:00pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 1:46pm:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:35am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:08am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:46am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:05am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:49am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:19am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:26am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 12:08am:

As usual, you re ignorant and ill-informed. Indefinite detention must pass through cabinet and be subject to judicial oversight.

All human decisions have biases behind them ... to pretend humans are mechanical automatons, doesn't assist your position.

Cherry picking season aye.

Biases underpin all human decisions.
To imply sexuality as the dominate influence in queer people's decisions, represents your own bias.

the question was BIAS in the judicaryand particularly, the High Court. I provided a perfect example of why such bias does not exist.

Naturally, you could not accept it

idiot.

Incorrect. When you cherry picked, you chose only one bias to judge the decision on, while ignored all the other potential biases that influenced the decision.

Your score F for F.wit.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 2:27pm

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 2:00pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 1:46pm:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:35am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:08am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:46am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:05am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:49am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:19am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:26am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 12:08am:

As usual, you re ignorant and ill-informed. Indefinite detention must pass through cabinet and be subject to judicial oversight.

All human decisions have biases behind them ... to pretend humans are mechanical automatons, doesn't assist your position.

Cherry picking season aye.

Biases underpin all human decisions.
To imply sexuality as the dominate influence in queer people's decisions, represents your own bias.

the question was BIAS in the judicaryand particularly, the High Court. I provided a perfect example of why such bias does not exist.

Naturally, you could not accept it

idiot.

Incorrect. When you cherry picked, you chose only one bias to judge the decision on, while ignored all the other potential biases that influenced the decision.

Your score F for F.wit.

quite the contrary idiot-features. You complain long and loud about every decision you think is wrong despite not having the brainpower to know why it was right and you were wrong. The Gay Marriage appeal was rejected because the law absolutely forbade it. It was a legal decision - which is exactly what we want from a high court.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Fireball on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 2:49pm

No, the "Facist Right" would have them hanged then send the pieces of sh!t back to where they came from.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 3:31pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 2:27pm:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 2:00pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 1:46pm:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:35am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:08am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:46am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:05am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:49am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:19am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:26am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 12:08am:

As usual, you re ignorant and ill-informed. Indefinite detention must pass through cabinet and be subject to judicial oversight.

All human decisions have biases behind them ... to pretend humans are mechanical automatons, doesn't assist your position.

Cherry picking season aye.

Biases underpin all human decisions.
To imply sexuality as the dominate influence in queer people's decisions, represents your own bias.

the question was BIAS in the judicaryand particularly, the High Court. I provided a perfect example of why such bias does not exist.

Naturally, you could not accept it

idiot.

Incorrect. When you cherry picked, you chose only one bias to judge the decision on, while ignored all the other potential biases that influenced the decision.

Your score F for F.wit.

You've been in prison, how would you know anything about what I may or may not have said.
Unless you are still a compulsive liar ... or your defacto Maria told you so ... and if so, her view is biassed.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 4:26pm

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 3:31pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 2:27pm:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 2:00pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 1:46pm:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:35am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:08am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:46am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:05am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:49am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:19am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:26am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 12:08am:

As usual, you re ignorant and ill-informed. Indefinite detention must pass through cabinet and be subject to judicial oversight.

All human decisions have biases behind them ... to pretend humans are mechanical automatons, doesn't assist your position.

Cherry picking season aye.

Biases underpin all human decisions.
To imply sexuality as the dominate influence in queer people's decisions, represents your own bias.

the question was BIAS in the judicaryand particularly, the High Court. I provided a perfect example of why such bias does not exist.

Naturally, you could not accept it

idiot.

Incorrect. When you cherry picked, you chose only one bias to judge the decision on, while ignored all the other potential biases that influenced the decision.

Your score F for F.wit.

You got beaten by the perfect example. Now if you have even a SINGLE example that shows High Court bias in judgements then show it.

but you wont of course. you never do. You just slink away to the next tawrdy post.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 4:50pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 7:31am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:01am:

It's a good idea if they still pose a threat.

We can't have terrorists on our streets.

Wouldn't it be simpler to just hang them?

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 4:57pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 4:26pm:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 3:31pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 2:27pm:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 2:00pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 1:46pm:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:35am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:08am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:46am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:05am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:49am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:19am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:26am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 12:08am:

As usual, you re ignorant and ill-informed. Indefinite detention must pass through cabinet and be subject to judicial oversight.

All human decisions have biases behind them ... to pretend humans are mechanical automatons, doesn't assist your position.

Cherry picking season aye.

Biases underpin all human decisions.
To imply sexuality as the dominate influence in queer people's decisions, represents your own bias.

the question was BIAS in the judicaryand particularly, the High Court. I provided a perfect example of why such bias does not exist.

Naturally, you could not accept it

idiot.

Incorrect. When you cherry picked, you chose only one bias to judge the decision on, while ignored all the other potential biases that influenced the decision.

Your score F for F.wit.

What you are arguing about is a side issue and doesn't deserve the time already spent on it. There will be plenty of better opportunities to show you up ... as long as you don't re-offend too soon.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:01pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 4:50pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 7:31am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:01am:

It's a good idea if they still pose a threat.

We can't have terrorists on our streets.

Wouldn't it be simpler to just hang them?

Perhaps that is the longer game being played Bobby. First this and then argue the cost of imprisoning a teenager for the next eighty years against burning her at the stake in the town square.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:12pm

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 4:50pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 7:31am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:01am:

It's a good idea if they still pose a threat.

We can't have terrorists on our streets.

Wouldn't it be simpler to just hang them?

Perhaps that is the longer game being played Bobby. First this and then argue the cost of imprisoning a teenager for the next eighty years against burning her at the stake in the town square.

you do have an ingrained problem with girls, dont you?

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Gordon on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:12pm

Of people who they believe still pose a threat.
Please send us your addess and we'll chuck a few jihadists in your spare room :)

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by philperth2010 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:25pm

Some people simply forfeit their right to remain in society but they have the opportunity to reflect on their choices!!!

:-? :-? :-?

The people's good is the highest law.
Cicero (106 BC - 43 BC), De Legibus

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:45pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:12pm:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 4:50pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 7:31am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:01am:

It's a good idea if they still pose a threat.

We can't have terrorists on our streets.

Wouldn't it be simpler to just hang them?

Perhaps that is the longer game being played Bobby. First this and then argue the cost of imprisoning a teenager for the next eighty years against burning her at the stake in the town square.

you do have an ingrained problem with girls, dont you?

No.
As much as you are desperate for my attention. Try reeling it in.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:17pm

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:19am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:26am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 12:08am:

You Kumbaya mutha fkkers are a hoot. ;D ;D

Yes gaol is to punish, and if you are an evil PoS then dying behind bars is what is in store for you. Some people no matter how many pinky swears they make to you left wing soft c0cks, will just walk out of the revolving door and do it again.

So if you want unrepentant recidivist rapist, paedophiles and terrorist to walk out and do it again; let them move in to your place for a year or 2. But like all good lefties you will let them walk free and not give a fkk what they do next, not your problem is it?

If we can't kill them then we should then incarcerate indefinitely as the next best option.

Also your comment on bikies and abos; yeah that was just stupid. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:22pm

I can think of more than one reason for jail, as a deterrent, as a punishment and to remove from society to protect society.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:34pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:17pm:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:19am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:26am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 12:08am:

It's the state's responsibility to stop recidivism. If they are unable to do the job, then the state should be punished, not the person that hasn't been set on a less harmful path.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:39pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:22pm:

I can think of more than one reason for jail, as a deterrent, as a punishment and to remove from society to protect society.

They are the three reasons entirely.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by The Grappler on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:41pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:22pm:

I can think of more than one reason for jail, as a deterrent, as a punishment and to remove from society to protect society.

So a person who has 'paid his dues' according to sentence is not a member of society?

Interesting - ve haff vays off dealing mit Der Untermenschen Enbemies off Der Schtate! Ein klein Konzentrationslager or drei vould be ein gut schtart! Perhaps ein vew kas chambers?

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by The Grappler on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:42pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:17pm:

Incorrect - jail is AS punishment, not for punishment..... your view belongs back in the nineteenth century with the Bloody Assizes....

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:43pm

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 4:50pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 7:31am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:01am:

It's a good idea if they still pose a threat.

We can't have terrorists on our streets.

Wouldn't it be simpler to just hang them?

Perhaps that is the longer game being played Bobby. First this and then argue the cost of imprisoning a teenager for the next eighty years against burning her at the stake in the town square.

They should never have been in jail -

they should have been hanged.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Kat on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:43pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:39pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:22pm:

I can think of more than one reason for jail, as a deterrent, as a punishment and to remove from society to protect society.

They are the three reasons entirely.

Political and/or economic reasons as well.

Neither of which are necessarily covered by the deterrent/punishment/protection doctrine.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:44pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:43pm:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 4:50pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 7:31am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:01am:

It's a good idea if they still pose a threat.

We can't have terrorists on our streets.

Wouldn't it be simpler to just hang them?

Perhaps that is the longer game being played Bobby. First this and then argue the cost of imprisoning a teenager for the next eighty years against burning her at the stake in the town square.

They should never have been in jail -

they should have been hanged.

Are you pro abortion bobby?

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by The Grappler on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:45pm

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 3:31pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 2:27pm:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 2:00pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 1:46pm:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:35am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 11:08am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:46am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:05am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:49am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 8:19am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 5:26am:

____ wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 12:08am:

As usual, you re ignorant and ill-informed. Indefinite detention must pass through cabinet and be subject to judicial oversight.

All human decisions have biases behind them ... to pretend humans are mechanical automatons, doesn't assist your position.

Cherry picking season aye.

Biases underpin all human decisions.
To imply sexuality as the dominate influence in queer people's decisions, represents your own bias.

the question was BIAS in the judicaryand particularly, the High Court. I provided a perfect example of why such bias does not exist.

Naturally, you could not accept it

idiot.

Incorrect. When you cherry picked, you chose only one bias to judge the decision on, while ignored all the other potential biases that influenced the decision.

Your score F for F.wit.

Longie's been in prison? I didn't know that.....

Aside:- Just adding my extension to the never-ending quotes here.....

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by miketrees on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:47pm

It's the state's responsibility to stop recidivism. If they are unable to do the job, then the state should be punished, not the person that hasn't been set on a less harmful path.

I think you should come back to us when you have a chance to think about that.

I only need to see jail as a way of keeping people from doing more damage,,, the punishment angle is just a bonus.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:53pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:42pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:17pm:

Incorrect - jail is AS punishment, not for punishment..... your view belongs back in the nineteenth century with the Bloody Assizes....

Ok then gaol is society's bonus reward for a job well done. Progressive enough for you? ;D ;D ;D ;D

And if you can't stop doing such a great job as a child rapist or terrorist then the reward should be indefinite.

If you want, you could always sing your rendition kumbaya to them as they rot away waiting to die. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by The Grappler on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 7:14pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:53pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:42pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:17pm:

Incorrect - jail is AS punishment, not for punishment..... your view belongs back in the nineteenth century with the Bloody Assizes....

But.. but.. but... what about all that rehabilitation in prisons?

You are evading the point I made - a person is not sent to prison to be punished - they are sent to prison as a means of punishment, and the time they serve IS the punishment. Once that debt is paid and there is a cry to hold on to them at any cost, you then enter the very dark realm of holding a person without legal cause.... now maybe in Iran and Congolia or wherever your brethren and fellow travelers do that... but here.. we don't.

Ve do not hier hold der Enemies off Der Schtate indefinitely, and an indefinite period of confinement is considered by all civilised jurisdictions to be a 'cruel and unusual punishment' having no place in our legal system.

Not hard really.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 7:24pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 7:14pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:53pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:42pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:17pm:

Incorrect - jail is AS punishment, not for punishment..... your view belongs back in the nineteenth century with the Bloody Assizes....

We do it already with child rapists, but there is always a bottom feeding lawyer who gets them out so they can keep on raping to their hearts content; so don't panic too much in this country every PoS scumbag crim gets out to 'have aother go' lefties make sure of that.

It's just for show; socialist lawyers and judges love paedophiles and terrorist and make sure they don't spend too much time behind bars, so rejoice, life for crims will remain the same. Unrepentant and easy.

Title: Re: Fascist Right Wants Indefinite Detention
Post by The Grappler on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 7:34pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 7:24pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 7:14pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:53pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:42pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 6:17pm:

Incorrect - jail is AS punishment, not for punishment..... your view belongs back in the nineteenth century with the Bloody Assizes....

One merely has to wonder what message this ongoing violent use of law is sending to people. I've long argued that no government can stamp out bullying by bullying bullies... there simply has to be a better way.

Call me a leftie all you like - I simply said to the ex that a fatal fall while trying to escape down the back stairs sounded a good option...