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Title: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by juliar on Jul 24th, 2016 at 5:00pm
Failed "leader" Shorty guarantees Labor will remain in opposition for the next 20 years after his disastrous rearranging of the deck chairs on the ALP Titanic.
As predicted the Gillard Clone the misognisty Plibersek has been banished to the kitchen to perform domestic duties. The Dream Team's idea of education is full on FABIAN Socialist reducing education to just brainwashing with stuff such as dumbing down our Australian kiddies by sabotaging their education with Greenie style Queer rubbish and Socialist brainwashing. Get set for open warfare between the Carr and Albo crazy lefty factions. Will Wenny Pong start making overseas trips to the old country like Kruddy used to ? One wonders if Shorty is a sitting duck squarely in the corrupt Commo unions sights ? Labor unveils education 'dream team' AAP Updated: 8:32 am, Sunday, 24 July 2016 Click to see video on Labor unveils dream team http://www.skynews.com.au/video/news/politics/2016/07/24/labor-unveils-education--dream-team-.html Bill Shorten hopes to make his mark on indigenous affairs as Labor leader, while his deputy Tanya Plibersek moves to head up the party's 'education dream team' in the new parliament. The opposition leader unveiled his new 32-person front bench which includes fresh voices and eight women in the shadow cabinet. 'The challenge for Labor is that we've got more talented people than places to put them, which is the opposite to the government,' Mr Shorten told reporters in Canberra on Saturday. Ms Plibersek will shift her focus to education and the status of women alongside Kate Ellis on early childhood education as well as Terri Butler, Andrew Giles, Doug Cameron and Jacinta Collins. 'No matter who you are, where you grow up ... a great education is the ticket to anything you want to achieve - it's a golden ticket,' Ms Plibersek said. Senate leader Penny Wong will replace Ms Plibersek as spokeswoman on foreign affairs, following her stint covering trade. Senator Stephen Conroy, who pundits have labelled hawkish over the South China Sea, is booted from defence and will turn his attention to being shadow special minister for state and sport. Richard Marles will fill Senator Conroy's shoes, and Shayne Neumann is set to take over the immigration spokesman role. Other big winners include Queensland rising star, 38-year-old Jim Chalmers (finance), western Sydney MP Michelle Rowland (communications), and ACT senator Katy Gallagher (small business) who all move into the shadow cabinet. Mark Butler loses responsibility for the environment to Tony Burke, but he will retain climate change and gains energy. Mark Dreyfus will add national security to his brief on top of his shadow attorney general duties but Mr Burke will take on arts. Jason Clare becomes resources, northern Australia and trade spokesman. Mr Shorten spared veteran left faction senator Kim Carr from being dumped, keeping him in cabinet in the industry and innovation portfolio. After a poor election campaign performance David Feeney is relegated to the back bench while Amanda Rishworth takes on veterans affairs. Former NSW state Labor minister Linda Burney, who is the first Aboriginal woman appointed to the lower house, has been parachuted onto the front bench and will be human services spokeswoman. Mr Shorten will personally take on the indigenous affairs portfolio, with the 'father of reconciliation', WA senator Pat Dodson, as his assistant. Chris Bowen remains shadow treasurer and Catherine King retains health, after campaigning hard on the issue of Medicare during the election lead up. Also in Labor's economic team are Andrew Leigh (competition and productivity) and Sam Dastyari (consumer affairs) - but both will be paid as backbenchers because the rules only allow 30 to be paid the higher rate. Mr Leigh is forced to suck up a pay cut. Others keeping their portfolios are Jenny Macklin (family services), Anthony Albanese (infrastructure), Brendan O'Connor (employment and workplace relations), Joel Fitzgibbon (agriculture) - See more at: http://www.skynews.com.au/news/politics/federal/2016/07/24/labor-unveils-education--dream-team-.html#sthash.2EPoGU5M.dpuf Funny how history repeats itself |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by Redneck on Jul 24th, 2016 at 5:04pm
Still getting over the close call are we juliar? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by Greens_Win on Jul 24th, 2016 at 5:15pm
What's Sportsbet odds on your claim Miss Juliar Bishop?
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Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by juliar on Jul 24th, 2016 at 5:17pm
Reddy,
it's good to see you Lefties are still alive and well, at least for the moment, until Pauline gets stuck into you. Wonder where my cheer squad Poor Stunned is ? Her support is most welcome. |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by juliar on Jul 24th, 2016 at 5:27pm
Greenies_Lose,
U R getting a bit ahead of yourself as the dust has not even settled on the current election and Pauline has not started to whip Australia into shape. But a confident prediction is that the endangered Greenies heading towards extinction will get only about 1% of the vote from the inner city drug addicts who like the Greenies' idea of making addictive drugs available on Medicare. Bit of a fizzer wasn't he ? It's because he is such a dork he frightens little old ladies. |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by Greens_Win on Jul 24th, 2016 at 5:29pm
Miss 'Juliar' Bishop.
You realise current claims, like yours, are just hot air. Thanks for the heads up. |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by juliar on Jul 24th, 2016 at 5:38pm
Now Now Greenies_Lose,
I know you are very disappointed with the very poor showing of your Greenies but, just having a go at at the poster who simply states the TRUTH about your failed "Party", won't change a thing and is actually a nice endorsement for my effectiveness at exposing the sick diseased Greenies treacherous plot of trying to destroy Australia. |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by Greens_Win on Jul 24th, 2016 at 5:48pm Quote:
Miss 'Juliar' Bishop Got anything beside hyperbolic language. Or are you like Turnbull, depressed over losing a million voters in one day. |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by juliar on Jul 24th, 2016 at 5:56pm
And the BowerBird is already claptrapping on about such irrelevancies as "marriage" between queers.
No surprise the permanently focused on irrelevant trivialities ALP lost the election. Of course, what this is all about, is Labor trying to win the queer vote because everyone knows the normal straight Australians, who feel like vomiting anytime this queer "marriage" disgusting stuff is mentioned, will STRONGLY REJECT IT. Parliament should decide gay marriage: Bowen Updated: 11:34 am, Sunday, 24 July 2016 Click to see video on Parliament should decide gay arriage, Bowen http://www.skynews.com.au/video/news/politics/2016/07/24/parliament-should-decide-gay-marriage--bowen.html Shadow treasurer Chris Bowen says the debate on whether to hold a plebiscite on same-sex marriage is overshadowing the push to recognise Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders in the constitution. The government promised to hold a national vote on whether the marriage act should changed as well a referendum on Indigenous recognition within the next term of parliament. Mr Bowen told Sky News that while politicians are debating on whether to allow a plebiscite, the push for Indigenous recognition is stalling. 'I think we're focusing on the wrong way on the wrong issues,' Mr Bowen said. 'The parliament should be deciding marriage equality, the people should be deciding Indigenous recognition in the constitution and while we're having this debate about the plebiscite we're not progressing the matter of Indigenous recognition in the constitution.' 'I think that's a shame.' The Labor frontbencher refused to confirm whether his party would support the enabling legislation needed for a plebiscite to go ahead. 'It's a remarkable circumstance that the prime minister of Australia can't exercise his view on this matter and have a free vote, which we all know that is his view.' 'Well then obviously, the shadow cabinet will consider the situation.' However, the government's Attorney-General George Brandis says the only way same-sex marriage can be legalised now is via a plebiscite. He told ABC the plebiscite will be held before the end of the year but if that's not possible it will be early next year. 'I think if the political leaders can take the politics out of this, if Mr Shorten and the Labor party can resist the temptation to try and use this as an opportunity to embarrass the government. - See more at: http://www.skynews.com.au/news/politics/federal/2016/07/24/parliament-should-decide-gay-marriage--bowen.html#sthash.g2YjBbxd.dpuf |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by juliar on Jul 24th, 2016 at 6:00pm
Greenies_Lose,
it is good to see you are firing on about one and a half cylinders. Let it all hang out to release your frustration and anger. They say marijuana is good for anxiety. |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by stunspore on Jul 24th, 2016 at 6:04pm
Another failed thread by Juliar.
Would like to see empirical data on whether truly lab is sliding, but i guess it's like finding evidence of the yeti. There isn't any. Again, reduced to just opinions by a lib supporter. |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by LEUT Bigvicfella (RTD) on Jul 24th, 2016 at 6:20pm stunspore wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 6:04pm:
I have stopped replying to Jules - her mantra, which once was entertaining and a good laugh has now become predictable - there are better flunkies to listen too But, on the subject of Mal's close win the the election, the key point is what is he going to do about that rampant senate? Although I guess in most laws and legislations etc, Labor and the Coalition will combine to pass them - things like pollies pay rises and entitlements come to mind. But, on the more important things, Labor -"sliding even faster to disaster" (OP ,not me) can and should just sit back and let the Coalition wine and dine what is an eclectic and multi facetted senate. Needing to woo 9 out of the 10 non major senators will be a joy to watch as Malcolm and Eric bend and scrape to fulfil their bidding, pork barrelling electorates, caving in to personal demands and just being the 2nd place getter in the race. So happy Labor aren't really involved in all this and can sit back and watch on |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by Dnarever on Jul 24th, 2016 at 7:04pm
Why do the right insist on making up this type of garbage ?
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Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by juliar on Jul 24th, 2016 at 7:25pm
Geez,
I've really got ye olde Lefties revved up. But faced with Labor's even faster slide to disaster what could they possibly come up with in Labor's defense ? Much easier to abuse that awful poster who drew attention to Labor's even faster slide to disaster. Never mind Lefties things can only get worse for you as the full import of Shorty's latest disaster is explored and exposed. It is reassuring to see poor stunned supporting my hard hitting exposure of the TRUTH. Eventually the Lefties will realize that having a go at me is about as effective as criticizing the Nations New Hero Pauline. |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by juliar on Jul 24th, 2016 at 7:41pm
The fundamental flaw made by the corrupt Commo unions that control Labor was to KEEP the obviously FLAWED SHORTY who is simply unelectable!!!
Why the Labor Party is fundamentally flawed. The Labor Party is the political arm of the Unions; that is it succinctly and accurately stated. They are owned by the Unions. MPs are selected by the Unions. Labor is funded by the Unions. Shorten and MPs take direction from the Unions. The Unions tell them what to say and when to say it. Shorten and MPs can be sacked by the Unions. Yes, the same Unions who came out so badly at the TURC. Same thing applies in Victoria - Andrews is a puppet of the Unions. At the TURC, it was proven in evidence that Shorten and the Union took cash handouts from employers rather than agree to grant pay and condition improvements for the workers. At both Clean Event and Chicquita Mushrooms. And they were just the ones that came up in evidence. But as the Royal Commissioner said, he just did a sampling exercise; there were undoubtedly many more of these under the table arrangements which were, of course, never disclosed to the workers who would have been dismayed to have been sold out by the Union who were supposed to be representing their interests. Forty pieces of silver - the parables continue. The problem is that Labor consists of brown nosing puppets of the unions who are promoted to beyond their ability - hence their mediocre performance. Now with the disreputable Greenies in disgrace and about to disappear and Labor consumed with infighting for the next 20 years and Pauline supporting Mal Australia's future looks bright indeed. |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by Bam on Jul 24th, 2016 at 7:46pm Dnarever wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 7:04pm:
Right-wingers are less intelligent than left wingers, says study |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by juliar on Jul 24th, 2016 at 7:52pm
Oh "Politically Correct" Bammy,
and said "STUDY" was conducted by Lefties!!!!! |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by stunspore on Jul 24th, 2016 at 8:04pm juliar wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 7:41pm:
Another large post which few, if any, will read to the end. 1 word, 2 words, skip a few, down the the last word in the last paragraph. If you want someone to read it, show some sensible writing skills, not some liberal marketing garbage. |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by stunspore on Jul 24th, 2016 at 8:07pm
Let's put a positive spin - I suppose if libs are sliding to greater heights - which economic/socio-economic/finance/national indicator or measure will be improving in the next month thanks to libs in government?
Regardless whether labs are sliding down or not, right now, libs are in charge and they should start taking responsibility rather than denying all in the last 3 years. |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by Dnarever on Jul 24th, 2016 at 8:15pm juliar wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 7:52pm:
Obviously the right have nobody smart enough to do it ? Is there a problem here ? |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by Kat on Jul 24th, 2016 at 8:31pm Dnarever wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 8:15pm:
The Right have a problem. The problem is the Right. |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by juliar on Jul 24th, 2016 at 8:40pm
Thanks to poor stunned for endorsing that she considers my post to be excellent and is stunned so much she is lost for words and can think of nothing to add.
And poor stunned, devoid of any retort, resorts to the Lefties' LAST STAND of attacking the poster. Now what does attacking the poster say about the attacker ? Oh dear, this psychology analysis stuff takes all the fun out of it. Now pour stunned, don't be deterred give it all you've got. And thanks again for your valuable support as it tells me I am hitting the target for if you remained meek and mild and ignored my posts that would say they are meek and mild and "Politically Correct" just like your rare efforts. |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by stunspore on Jul 24th, 2016 at 9:03pm juliar wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 8:40pm:
More garbage again from Juliar - when you do 'hit the target' that would be great - but no, so far you have not. As for remaining "meek and mild" - well I prefer to take the high road of having standards in debating - i know you won't because you can't. But go on, your style might improve eventually to an acceptable standard. |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by juliar on Jul 24th, 2016 at 9:31pm
poor stunned if U had not copied my pungently cogently factual assertion then your contribution would wilt and disappear.
Eventually it will sink in that trying to mock me with such puerile efforts is simply a waste of time. One gets the feeling that U R simply out of your depth probably due to your damaged education and that your frustration makes you turn nasty. To put you on the spot why don't you post some glorious stuff bestowing bountiful praise and honor on your beloved hero sad sack Shorty ? I will promise not to mock and knock your effort. |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by John Smith on Jul 24th, 2016 at 9:32pm
oh grow up
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Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by stunspore on Jul 24th, 2016 at 10:08pm
I know i am wasting my time if i was trying to change juliar. What I am doing is allowing you to show how pathetic your posts are, and that the more you post your poorly thought-out contributions, the more people read it and think, yep, this juliar is just garbage at proving any point.
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Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by juliar on Jul 24th, 2016 at 10:37pm
Poor stunned,
you are just not up to the challenge are you ? |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by juliar on Jul 24th, 2016 at 11:11pm
Oh Mr Smith that's what I keep telling the poor stunned sole but to no avail. Too far gone I fear.
And Silly Billy shakes up Labor hoping to find some wheat but all that falls out is chaff. Shorten shakes up Labor front bench Updated: 4:12 pm, Saturday, 23 July 2016 Click to see video on David Speers explains the collossal shemozzle that Silly Billy has created. https://twitter.com/David_Speers?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw Labor leader Bill Shorten has unveiled his new front bench making education a top priority with what he called a 'dream team'. Deputy Labor leader Tanya Plibersek will take on an education super-portfolio and become shadow minister for women, while Penny Wong moves from trade to foreign affairs and Richard Marles will head up defence. In a press conference in Canberra on Saturday, Mr Shorten firstly offered his sympathies to the people of Munich and Germany after nine civilians were killed in a shooting rampage on Friday evening. Mr Shorten then said he is 'really pleased' with his 'diverse' new team, noting eight MPs outside metropolitan centres, six MPs from western Sydney, as well as thirteen women in the shadow ministry with eight in the shadow cabinet. 'We're adding great energy with a new team,' Mr Shorten said. 'We're building on strong policy foundation of the past three years, and we're bringing fresh voices to the national conversation.' Mr Shorten said education was 'one of the sharpest differences' between Labor and Malcolm Turnbull's government. 'Education ... is the first-order economic and social priority for Labor in the 45th parliament, he said. Ms Plibersek, who as deputy leader can choose her portfolio, said education has 'always been a passion' of hers. Schools and higher education will be incorporated into the education portfolio, with South Australian MP Kate Ellis keeping her shadow cabinet portfolio of early childhood education and development, taking in TAFE and vocational education. Jacinta Collins, Terri Butler, Doug Cameron and Andrew Leigh will also be part of the 'education dream team' taking on other education-related portfolios. Retaining their portfolios will be Chris Bowen as shadow treasurer, Catherine King as shadow health minister, Jenny Macklin as the spokesperson for family services, and Brendan O'Connor as shadow minister for employment and workplace affairs. Anthony Albanese will stay in his portfolio for infrastructure and transport, Mark Butler retains climate change and energy, and Joel Fitzgibbon keeps agriculture. Mark Dreyfus will continue as shadow attorney-general and expand his title as the new shadow minister for national security. The new faces will include the first female indigenous MP, Linda Burney, and the first Muslims to be elevated to ministerial positions in Ed Husic and Sam Dastyari. Ed Husic will become the shadow minister for employment services and workplace participation, and Senator Dastyari will take on consumer affairs, though remaining on his backbench salary of $199,040 as the rules only allow for 30 shadow ministers. Mr Shorten expanded the shadow front bench from 30 to 32 positions to save Victorian senator Kim Carr and quash factional infighting after the Left dumped Mr Carr from their 14-member ticket, which they expected to be elected to shadow ministry as per party rules. Kim Carr stays in shadow cabinet as the spokesman for innovation, industry, science and research, losing higher education. Queenslander Jim Chalmers enters shadow cabinet with the finance portfolio, replacing Tony Burke who takes on a more frontline role with three portfolios of environment and water, arts, and citizenship, while remaining manager of opposition business. Vocational education spokeswoman Sharon Bird has been dumped as has Victorian MP and justice spokesman David Feeney, who made several gaffs during the election campaign, with Clare O'Neil taking on justice. Deputy Senate leader Stephen Conroy has been dumped from defence to special minister of state and sport. Jason Clare becomes resources, northern Australia and trade spokesman, while his former portfolio of communications goes to western Sydney MP Michelle Rowland who becomes one of eight women in shadow cabinet. Former ACT chief minister Katy Gallagher moves into shadow cabinet, taking on the small business and financial services portfolio. As well as opposition leader, Mr Shorten will take over the Indigenous affairs portfolio with WA senator and Indigenous leader Pat Dodson appointed his assistant minister. Former shadow Indigenous affairs minister Shayne Neumann will now handle Mr Marles' former portfolio of immigration and border protection. Shadow assistant treasurer Andrew Leigh has been given more responsibility taking in productivity and charities into his competition portfolio, but will now be paid $40,000 less on a backbench salary. - See more at: http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2016/07/23/plibersek-to-swap-portfolio.html#sthash.AWwx9Z0S.dpuf |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by Kat on Jul 24th, 2016 at 11:12pm John Smith wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
Eggsactly. |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by stunspore on Jul 24th, 2016 at 11:29pm
So there is some sort of data that shows labor is sliding to disaster? Nope ... just sad Juliar's delusional mind.
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Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by The Grappler on Jul 24th, 2016 at 11:34pm
Many have given up on even reading juliar's posts... the moment I see the name on it, I move on....
That, Poppets, is what is called 'trolling'.. and juliar is a troll. |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by juliar on Jul 25th, 2016 at 10:26am
Grappler,
that's because the DARK SIDE prefers to live in denial and finds it upsetting when the horrible TRUTH about their DARK SIDE is revealed. |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by stunspore on Jul 25th, 2016 at 5:17pm Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 11:34pm:
This is how you have sophisticated attempt at attacking the opponent... Occasionally, Juliar gets tired of sticking head in the sand under the bridge. So she pops out her head once in a while to type up nonsense posts with the hope that someone above will get down to her level. Never was going to work, since everyone else has IQ at least into the double digits, but a troll has to try. I think the attempt to plainly attack the opponent is boring, dull and sign of lower intelligence. Which is why I rarely, if i ever do, bother with those and cut short to just: "Nonsense post". After all, it takes intelligence to appreciate the subtlety of humour. |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by philperth2010 on Jul 25th, 2016 at 5:20pm
I prefer the debate Juliar the bet way possible!!!
;) ;) ;) Silence is one of the hardest arguments to refute. Josh Billings (1818 - 1885) |
Title: Re: Labor sliding even faster to DISASTER!!!! Post by Redneck on Jul 25th, 2016 at 5:20pm stunspore wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 5:17pm:
Good advice, I should take it! ::) |
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