Islam is a barbaric, disgusting and violent politicsl ideology, which its followers try to disguise as a religion. every time that you hear of a terrorist incident here or elsewhere, it is invariably committed by a Muslim. Three Australians have been killed in less than two years here on our soil, and moreover, aislam has contributed nothing of value to our society whatsover. The same cannot be said of Christianity, which is inherently a peaceful, loving and generous religion. Look at all the Christian charities, like the Salvation Army and St Vincent De Paul.

Moreover, many Muslims just leech off our society. They come here and have up to 10 kids and just go on the dole and make a nuisance of themselves.

Yet whenever someone has the guts to speak out against Muslims; like Pauline Hanson and Sonia Kruger, the left tries to shout them down with stupid and inane words like "Islamaphobia".

Just look here for the difference between Jesus and Muhammed.



http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/jesus-muhammad.aspx

matty wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:03pm:

Islam is a barbaric, disgusting and violent politicsl ideology

So you think you can counter hate with hate? It's not going to work.  ::)

Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim???

:-? :-? :-?

When will Australian Conservatives stop funding Islamic Fundamentalist Terror via buying Saudi Oil Matty?



http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1469166668

yes, ban any new muslims from here.

I would ban islam from Aust.

it is a death cult

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:05pm:

Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim??? :-? :-? :-?

Change the constitution with a referendum. No too many Aussies believe in a sky fairy, so no biggie if we start bulldozing mosques and church with equal gusto.


And ask them


Be nice to get rid of a few religious fanatics out of this country.  :) :)

matty wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:03pm:

Three Australians have been killed in less than two years here on our soil ...

And how many have been killed by non-Muslims?

If we cant tell which muslims are a danger to us just by looking at them I wonder what would be the best way to ensure our safety? 
Hey, maybe we should just ban them eh?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:30pm:

matty wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:03pm: Three Australians have been killed in less than two years here on our soil ... And how many have been killed by non-Muslims?

So that is the apologists latest excuse is it?

'We do kill and main people, but less than other people'.


Remember it only took martin bryant to clamp down on 1.8 million innocent gun owners, so little faggots like you could feel safe from nothing.

____ wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:06pm:

When will Australian Conservatives stop funding Islamic Fundamentalist Terror via buying Saudi Oil Matty? http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1469166668

They might have thought they'd buried your comment under emotive, click generating crap, Greens


so I fixed it for you


And please have a beverage of your choice on me


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BigOl64 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:30pm: matty wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:03pm: Three Australians have been killed in less than two years here on our soil ... And how many have been killed by non-Muslims? So that is the apologists latest excuse is it? 'We do kill and main people, but less than other people'. Remember it only took martin bryant to clamp down on 1.8 million innocent gun owners, so little faggots like you could feel safe from nothing.

You didn't answer the question, apologist.

How many Australians have been killed by non-Muslims?

How many have been killed by white immigrants, from non-Muslim countries?

More, or less?

Hmmm?

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:33pm:

If we cant tell which muslims are a danger to us just by looking at them I wonder what would be the best way to ensure our safety?  Hey, maybe we should just ban them eh?

If we cant tell which non-muslims are a danger to us just by looking at them I wonder what would be the best way to ensure our safety? 
Hey, maybe we should just ban them eh?

:-/

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:05pm:

Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim??? :-? :-? :-?

Their identity documents state their religion.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:39pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:33pm: If we cant tell which muslims are a danger to us just by looking at them I wonder what would be the best way to ensure our safety?  Hey, maybe we should just ban them eh? If we cant tell which non-muslims are a danger to us just by looking at them I wonder what would be the best way to ensure our safety?  Hey, maybe we should just ban them eh? :-/

Good point gweggy, but how many non-muslims are committing terrorist acts killing thousands all over the world?
oh and gwegg, I'm happy to ban them too. ;)

rhino wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:41pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:05pm: Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim??? :-? :-? :-? Their identity documents state their religion.

Immigration Official: "Religion?"

Applicant: "None".

Immigration Official: "Fine, come on in".

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:29pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:05pm: Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim??? :-? :-? :-? Change the constitution with a referendum. No too many Aussies believe in a sky fairy, so no biggie if we start bulldozing mosques and church with equal gusto. And ask them Be nice to get rid of a few religious fanatics out of this country.  :) :)

I have no problem with that proposition Mr Big....However those who oppose Islam would not consider the ramifications to their own beliefs if such a proposition was carried....However as an agnostic I believe everyone has a right to individual freedom of religion!!!

:-? :-? :-?

LOL...  you lied....  DEPORTATION ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

rhino wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:41pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:05pm: Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim??? :-? :-? :-? Their identity documents state their religion.

get them to  state how awful moh was.
get them to write how islam is so bad

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:44pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:41pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:05pm: Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim??? :-? :-? :-? Their identity documents state their religion. Immigration Official: "Religion?" Applicant: "None". Immigration Official: "Fine, come on in".

get them to officially blaspheme

rhino wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:41pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:05pm: Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim??? :-? :-? :-? Their identity documents state their religion.

It is up to individuals to declare their religion it is not imposed upon them by the State....Do you really think a Muslim trying to enter Australia would declare their status if they knew it would prevent their entry....It would also be against the law in Australia to discriminate against anyone based on religious beliefs....The proposition is complete bullshit!!!

::) ::) ::)

Lets not discriminate.

Lets ban all immigration.

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:39pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:33pm: If we cant tell which muslims are a danger to us just by looking at them I wonder what would be the best way to ensure our safety?  Hey, maybe we should just ban them eh? If we cant tell which non-muslims are a danger to us just by looking at them I wonder what would be the best way to ensure our safety?  Hey, maybe we should just ban them eh? :-/ Good point gweggy, but how many non-muslims are committing terrorist acts killing thousands all over the world? oh and gwegg, I'm happy to ban them too. ;)

Not many at all.

However, this discussion is about Muslims coming to Australia.

So far, non-Muslims have killed many more Australians here than Muslims have.

Now, if we were to put a ban on all Muslim immigration, do you think that ratio would change?

Do you think the crazy Muslims already here (and I'm sure there are some out there) will say "Oh well, I'll just accept that decision and live the rest of my life here in Australia in peace"?

Or, do you think they might band together and try to "get even" with us?

Why does the Matty sock continue to start threads and then disappear without addressing his idiocy???

:-? :-? :-?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:53pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:43pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:39pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:33pm: If we cant tell which muslims are a danger to us just by looking at them I wonder what would be the best way to ensure our safety?  Hey, maybe we should just ban them eh? If we cant tell which non-muslims are a danger to us just by looking at them I wonder what would be the best way to ensure our safety?  Hey, maybe we should just ban them eh? :-/ Good point gweggy, but how many non-muslims are committing terrorist acts killing thousands all over the world? oh and gwegg, I'm happy to ban them too. ;) Not many at all. However, this discussion is about Muslims coming to Australia. So far, non-Muslims have killed many more Australians here than Muslims have. Now, if we were to put a ban on all Muslim immigration, do you think that ratio would change? Do you think the crazy Muslims already here (and I'm sure there are some out there) will say "Oh well, I'll just accept that decision and live the rest of my life here in Australia in peace"? Or, do you think they might band together and try to "get even" with us.

OH puhlease...

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:44pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:41pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:05pm: Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim??? :-? :-? :-? Their identity documents state their religion. Immigration Official: "Religion?" Applicant: "None". Immigration Official: "Fine, come on in".

So they are officially a non-religious person, just the type we want; any change to that and out the door they go. No there will be anywhere they can go to 'get religion'; because we will have bull dozed all their places of worship :) :)

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:51pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:41pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:05pm: Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim??? :-? :-? :-? Their identity documents state their religion. It is up to individuals to declare their religion it is not imposed upon them by the State....Do you really think a Muslim trying to enter Australia would declare their status if they knew it would prevent their entry....It would also be against the law in Australia to discriminate against anyone based on religious beliefs....The proposition is complete bullshit!!! ::) ::) ::)

Bullshit on stilts, actually.

Will the Jew owners and moderators of this forum be moving these muslim threads to the appropriate section anytime soon?

miketrees wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:52pm:

Lets not discriminate. Lets ban all immigration.

Yeah, can't agree with that.


Just ban the ones who don't had value to the place; like nut bag religious types.

Why not indeed have the Sonia Solution? We will have to fight off the imbeciles from the UN for daring to do so however.

More importantly, why not make our imports from the ME and Africa exclusively Christian & non-muslim minorities before they are exterminated.

At the same time we will have to turn our attention to controlling, surveilling and possibly harassing the current muslim population, maybe till they decide to leave, because while they remain they will give birth to more & more potential terrorists.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:48pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:41pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:05pm: Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim??? :-? :-? :-? Their identity documents state their religion. get them to  state how awful moh was. get them to write how islam is so bad

Why not just get everyone entering Australia to eat a pork roll....If they refuse they are banned....Of course vegetarians and vegans would also be banned but that is just an added bonus!!!

;) ;) ;)

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:53pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:43pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:39pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:33pm: If we cant tell which muslims are a danger to us just by looking at them I wonder what would be the best way to ensure our safety?  Hey, maybe we should just ban them eh? If we cant tell which non-muslims are a danger to us just by looking at them I wonder what would be the best way to ensure our safety?  Hey, maybe we should just ban them eh? :-/ Good point gweggy, but how many non-muslims are committing terrorist acts killing thousands all over the world? oh and gwegg, I'm happy to ban them too. ;) Not many at all. However, this discussion is about Muslims coming to Australia. So far, non-Muslims have killed many more Australians here than Muslims have. Now, if we were to put a ban on all Muslim immigration, do you think that ratio would change? Do you think the crazy Muslims already here (and I'm sure there are some out there) will say "Oh well, I'll just accept that decision and live the rest of my life here in Australia in peace"? Or, do you think they might band together and try to "get even" with us. OH puhlease... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Please what?

What's your answer?

I'll give you mine.

I think that if Australia banned all Muslim immigration (which is impossible, anyway), we would see terrorist attacks on our soil that would make 9/11 look like a picnic.

The radicalised Muslims are insane: they aren't going to sit back and just accept a decision like that.

If you think they are, then you're crazier than they are.

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:57pm:

miketrees wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:52pm: Lets not discriminate. Lets ban all immigration. Yeah, can't agree with that. Just ban the ones who don't had value to the place; like nut bag religious types.

In that case, Tony Abbott would never have been allowed in the country.

Hmmm, maybe you're onto something.

Meh,, ban immigration, start population decrease.
Set an example for the world.

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:59pm:

Why not indeed have the Sonia Solution? We will have to fight off the imbeciles from the UN for daring to do so however. More importantly, why not make our imports from the ME and Africa exclusively Christian & non-muslim minorities before they are exterminated. At the same time we will have to turn our attention to controlling, surveilling and possibly harassing the current muslim population, maybe till they decide to leave, because while they remain they will give birth to more & more potential terrorists.

You are beyond help!!!

::) ::) ::)

Never try to reason the prejudice out of a man. It was not reasoned into him, and cannot be reasoned out.
Sydney Smith (1771 - 1845)

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:01pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:57pm: miketrees wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:52pm: Lets not discriminate. Lets ban all immigration. Yeah, can't agree with that. Just ban the ones who don't had value to the place; like nut bag religious types. In that case, Tony Abbott would never have been allowed in the country. Hmmm, maybe you're onto something.

Totally agree; if you believe in some magical sky fairy you can fkk of back to where you came from and if you were born here; shut the fkk up about it.


Fire up the bull dozers and get every single religious idiot registered as a potential enemy of the state. It worked for gun owners it will work just as well here.

Howard didn't care about the constitution and the state's rights to make laws; fkk no; he just threatened them into doing what they were told or cut off funding.

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:51pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:41pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:05pm: Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim??? :-? :-? :-? Their identity documents state their religion. It is up to individuals to declare their religion it is not imposed upon them by the State... ::) ::) ::)

In all of the non western countries it is mandatory for religion to be stated on identity documents.

Quote:

.Do you really think a Muslim trying to enter Australia would declare their status if they knew it would prevent their entry...

their religion is stated on their identity documents, are you thick or what?.

Quote:

It would also be against the law in Australia to discriminate against anyone based on religious beliefs....The proposition is complete bullshit!!!

Correct, but they arent in Australia are they?

Its time wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:56pm:

Will the Jew owners and moderators of this forum be moving these muslim threads to the appropriate section anytime soon?

Rectal is worried about his ALP votes.
Don't offend the muslims!

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:00pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:53pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:43pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:39pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:33pm: If we cant tell which muslims are a danger to us just by looking at them I wonder what would be the best way to ensure our safety?  Hey, maybe we should just ban them eh? If we cant tell which non-muslims are a danger to us just by looking at them I wonder what would be the best way to ensure our safety?  Hey, maybe we should just ban them eh? :-/ Good point gweggy, but how many non-muslims are committing terrorist acts killing thousands all over the world? oh and gwegg, I'm happy to ban them too. ;) Not many at all. However, this discussion is about Muslims coming to Australia. So far, non-Muslims have killed many more Australians here than Muslims have. Now, if we were to put a ban on all Muslim immigration, do you think that ratio would change? Do you think the crazy Muslims already here (and I'm sure there are some out there) will say "Oh well, I'll just accept that decision and live the rest of my life here in Australia in peace"? Or, do you think they might band together and try to "get even" with us. OH puhlease... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D Please what? What's your answer? I'll give you mine. I think that if Australia banned all Muslim immigration (which is impossible, anyway), we would see terrorist attacks on our soil that would make 9/11 look like a picnic. The radicalised Muslims are insane: they aren't going to sit back and just accept a decision like that. If you think they are, then you're crazier than they are.

Sooooo....  you think we have lots of crazy Muslims in the country already...  so you agree with Hanson and others that they are a danger to the country...  goodo...  your solution is to let more of them into the country...  goodo :D :D :D :D :D

rhino wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:36pm:

In all of the non western countries it is mandatory for religion to be stated on identity documents.

Link?

Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia?

it's far simpler to simply ban all religion

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:48pm:

Sooooo....  you think we have lots of crazy Muslims in the country already...

Some (I didn't say "lots").

To think otherwise would be extremely naive.


Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:48pm:

so you agree with Hanson and others that they are a danger to the country...

No.

All crazy people who want to hurt us are a danger to the country, no matter what religion they may or may not follow.

I don't consider all Muslims a danger.


Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:48pm:

goodo...  your solution is to let more of them into the country...  goodo

I don't remember saying that.

Perhaps you could provide a link.

Now, would you be so kind as to answer my question: if all Muslim immigration was stopped, do you think the crazy ones already in the country would accept it peacefully?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:44pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:41pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:05pm: Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim??? :-? :-? :-? Their identity documents state their religion. Immigration Official: "Religion?" Applicant: "None". Immigration Official: "Fine, come on in".

We're in total lockstep here.
How about this.
Our new immigration policy is that we have enough idiots, imported and home grown so our objective is to be very careful who we let in.

Part of immigrating to Australia will involve signing a contract that you will never, for the rest of your lift participate in any extremist activities. A list of what is deemed an extremist activity will be listed online in every language for all to see.

The penalty, deportation for the offender and every one of their blood relatives. No ifs, no buts, gorn.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:56pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 2:48pm: Sooooo....  you think we have lots of crazy Muslims in the country already...  Some (I didn't say "lots"). To think otherwise would be extremely naive. Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 2:48pm: so you agree with Hanson and others that they are a danger to the country...  No. All crazy people who want to hurt us are a danger to the country, no matter what religion they may or may not follow. I don't consider all Muslims a danger. Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 2:48pm: goodo...  your solution is to let more of them into the country...  goodo I don't remember saying that. Perhaps you could provide a link. Now, would you be so kind as to answer my question: if all Muslim immigration was stopped, do you think the crazy ones already in the country would accept it peacefully?

So now you deny what you said....  goodo :D :D :D :D :D

So in answer to your question...  you are afraid of Muslims...  so you agree with Hanson...  no....  you deny you agree with Hanson...  you are a hypocrite?
I'd change our settlement policy back to integration or assimilation, those who don't like it can leave...  Trollboy will agree with that he tells people who don't like it here to leave.  How about you Gweggy?
I think they should get on board or leave, I'm happy for those unhappy...  to leave.
If they break the law I'm happy to gaol them then deport them.
Since you prog lefties seem to think they are wonderfully sane peaceful people why do you think there would be crazies causing trouble?  hmmmmm? :D
oh....  you agree with Hanson....  no....  you deny you agree with Hanson...  goodo.
:D :D :D :D :D

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 3:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 2:56pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 2:48pm: Sooooo....  you think we have lots of crazy Muslims in the country already...  Some (I didn't say "lots"). To think otherwise would be extremely naive. Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 2:48pm: so you agree with Hanson and others that they are a danger to the country...  No. All crazy people who want to hurt us are a danger to the country, no matter what religion they may or may not follow. I don't consider all Muslims a danger. Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 2:48pm: goodo...  your solution is to let more of them into the country...  goodo I don't remember saying that. Perhaps you could provide a link. Now, would you be so kind as to answer my question: if all Muslim immigration was stopped, do you think the crazy ones already in the country would accept it peacefully? So now you deny what you said....

No.

I said what I said.

I didn't say what you think I said.

So, if all Muslim immigration was stopped, do you think the crazy ones already in the country would accept it peacefully?

You seem to be struggling with this question. Why is that?

Gordon wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 3:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:44pm: rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:41pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:05pm: Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim??? :-? :-? :-? Their identity documents state their religion. Immigration Official: "Religion?" Applicant: "None". Immigration Official: "Fine, come on in". We're in total lockstep here. How about this. Our new immigration policy is that we have enough idiots, imported and home grown so our objective is to be very careful who we let in. Part of immigrating to Australia will involve signing a contract that you will never, for the rest of your lift participate in any extremist activities. A list of what is deemed an extremist activity will be listed online in every language for all to see. The penalty, deportation for the offender and every one of their blood relatives. No ifs, no buts, gorn.

The document they sign also needs to include things like no wearing of the burqa and an adherence to Australian Christian values.

Quote:

.......... adherence to Australian Christian values.

Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Agnostics, Athiests etc ety and Calathumpians need not apply.

Christian adherents only here please.  All the rest of you green bastards......please piss orf now.

*

Aussie wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 3:43pm:

Quote: .......... adherence to Australian Christian values. Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Agnostics, Athiests etc ety and Calathumpians need not apply. Christian adherents only here please.  All the rest of you green bastards......please piss orf now.

Have your religion but adhere to our values.

Rhino wrote....

Quote:

In all of the non western countries it is mandatory for religion to be stated on identity documents.

Do you have any links to support this comment???

:-? :-? :-?

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 4:03pm:

Rhino wrote.... Quote: In all of the non western countries it is mandatory for religion to be stated on identity documents. Do you have any links to support this comment??? :-? :-? :-?

I've already asked, but he didn't answer me.

Quote:

Australian Christian values

Can you list the ones these people have to sign up for, please?

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 4:03pm:

Rhino wrote.... Quote: In all of the non western countries it is mandatory for religion to be stated on identity documents. Do you have any links to support this comment??? :-? :-? :-?

Yes.

To answer you is to take a step into the unknown.

rhino wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 4:08pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 4:03pm: Rhino wrote.... Quote: In all of the non western countries it is mandatory for religion to be stated on identity documents. Do you have any links to support this comment??? :-? :-? :-? Yes.

Could you share them with us?

Aussie wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 4:07pm:

Quote: Australian Christian values Can you list the ones these people have to sign up for, please?

You saying you don't know any Aussie...  goodo  :D

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 4:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 4:07pm: Quote: Australian Christian values Can you list the ones these people have to sign up for, please? You saying you don't know any Aussie...  goodo  :D

No, 'I saying,' can you (that is, Rhino) list the ones these people have to sign up for, please?

Aussie wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 4:07pm:

Quote: Australian Christian values Can you list the ones these people have to sign up for, please?

http://www.christianvalues.org.au/images/images/acvi2016-check-federal-cdp-2jul16-rgb-front-11.jpg

http://www.christianvalues.org.au/images/images/acvi2016-check-federal-cdp-2jul16-rgb-front-11.jpg

Ripper!  They must agree to:

1.  Bugger off any Hari Krishna.
2.  No poof marriage.
3.  Restrict education curricula.
4.  Christian only employees in Christian businesses.
5.  Freedom to incite hatred.
6.  Don't mention the War (other religions) at school.
7.  No poof parents.
8.  Agree that terminally ill people are given worse treatment than we give horses.
9.  No abortion.
10.  No porn.
11.  Restrict immigration.

Very 'Christian' of you, indeed.

rhino wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 4:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 4:07pm: Quote: Australian Christian values Can you list the ones these people have to sign up for, please? http://www.christianvalues.org.au/images/images/acvi2016-check-federal-cdp-2jul16-rgb-front-11.jpg

farrrk off with that sh1t ... Only a bible bashing loon would sign that crap

Why not indeed matty.. why not indeed.

Its our country and we can do what ever we Fricken well like...

Don't let the idiotic leftist silence the majority ...

Shut the bloody gate... NOW

The New testament would be a good starting point for you Ozzy. Jesus is a Muslim prophet you know, they shouldnt have any problem adhering to that.

rhino wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 4:08pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 4:03pm: Rhino wrote.... Quote: In all of the non western countries it is mandatory for religion to be stated on identity documents. Do you have any links to support this comment??? :-? :-? :-? Yes.

Could you share them with us please?

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 4:19pm:

Why not indeed matty.. why not indeed. Its our country and we can do what ever we Fricken well like... Don't let the idiotic leftist silence the majority ... Shut the bloody gate... NOW

No one is trying to silence you from having an opinion (although Matty has deserted the thread)....But I reserve my right to challenge anything I want....It is called freedom and democracy which the right want to subvert!!!

>:( >:( >:(

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:05pm:

Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim??? :-? :-? :-?

My point precisely. How do you define 'Muslim'? this is a Christian country and yet few on here would claim obedience or submission to Christ. Likewise, most Muslims are so by name only.

rhino wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 4:21pm:

The New testament would be a good starting point for you Ozzy. Jesus is a Muslim prophet you know, they shouldnt have any problem adhering to that.

I don't think it is a question of what I could adhere to.  You want all migrants to sign up to Christian values.  Surely you can list these things you want them to agree to?

Just say so if you can't or would rather not, and I'll move on.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 4:32pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:05pm: Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim??? :-? :-? :-? My point precisely. How do you define 'Muslim'? this is a Christian country and yet few on here would claim obedience or submission to Christ. Likewise, most Muslims are so by name only.

You seam to be a lot more objective since your return Longy....Not that I have ever had a problem debating with you....Welcome back and come out swinging!!!

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Aussie wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 4:38pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 4:21pm: The New testament would be a good starting point for you Ozzy. Jesus is a Muslim prophet you know, they shouldnt have any problem adhering to that. I don't think it is a question of what I could adhere to.  You want all migrants to sign up to Christian values.  Surely you can list these things you want them to agree to? Just say so if you can't or would rather not, and I'll move on.

Is it any wonder Rhino's are becoming extinct....I think I will leave it alone before it loses it if it hasn't already???

;) ;) ;)

Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia for the sins of the few?

Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia?

Why not get rid of any who are here now before they breed?

Aussie wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 4:38pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 4:21pm: The New testament would be a good starting point for you Ozzy. Jesus is a Muslim prophet you know, they shouldnt have any problem adhering to that. I don't think it is a question of what I could adhere to.  You want all migrants to sign up to Christian values.  Surely you can list these things you want them to agree to? Just say so if you can't or would rather not, and I'll move on.

My Irish Protestant ancestors, a small enclave of such within a mighty Catholic clan going directly back to the Ancient High Kings...were viewed as heretics and worse by their clan... I believe they took on Protestantism to bypass the anti-Irish Laws in place.... it's called 'spitting Protestantism'... you leave the church and then spit to ward of demons....

Point is, I hold no religious affiliations at this time in my life and never felt comfortable with the idea of blind obedience to some set of 'faith' rules... unlike my grandmother on one side and my mother's intensely Catholic family on the other.....

Does this mean I should be banned from Australia for not holding Christian religion as a major prop in my life?

Bobby. wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 5:05pm:

Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia? Why not get rid of any who are here now before they breed?

So.....the Muslim parents in Australia with kids can stay, but the kids have to go.  Great idea Bobby.  That'll work.

Aussie wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 5:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 5:05pm: Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia? Why not get rid of any who are here now before they breed? So.....the Muslim parents in Australia with kids can stay, but the kids have to go.  Great idea Bobby.  That'll work.

It would be better if they all went to Iran or anywhere else.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 5:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 5:07pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 5:05pm: Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia? Why not get rid of any who are here now before they breed? So.....the Muslim parents in Australia with kids can stay, but the kids have to go.  Great idea Bobby.  That'll work. It would be better if they all went to Iran or anywhere else.

And what then do we do, Bobby?    Pretend all is well?

Aussie wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 5:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 5:15pm: Aussie wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 5:07pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 5:05pm: Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia? Why not get rid of any who are here now before they breed? So.....the Muslim parents in Australia with kids can stay, but the kids have to go.  Great idea Bobby.  That'll work. It would be better if they all went to Iran or anywhere else. And what then do we do, Bobby?    Pretend all is well?

They will attack us for sure - if we let them stay here.

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They will attack us for sure - if we let them stay here.

Who are these beasts, Bobby?  Point them out so we can arrest them.

Aussie wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 5:23pm:

Quote: They will attack us for sure - if we let them stay here. Who are these beasts, Bobby?  Point them out so we can arrest them.

Islamic radicals.

You can find them in every mosque.

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4 posts to flip the page - when will FD fix it?

Bobby. wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 5:24pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 5:23pm: Quote: They will attack us for sure - if we let them stay here. Who are these beasts, Bobby?  Point them out so we can arrest them. Islamic radicals. You can find them in every mosque.

Easy peasy!  Round them up, and ship 'em out, ey?

Aussie wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 5:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 5:24pm: Aussie wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 5:23pm: Quote: They will attack us for sure - if we let them stay here. Who are these beasts, Bobby?  Point them out so we can arrest them. Islamic radicals. You can find them in every mosque. Easy peasy!  Round them up, and ship 'em out, ey?

Yep

Well, get on with it then.  You said it was easy peasy.

Aussie wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 5:27pm:

Well, get on with it then.  You said it was easy peasy.

Only our: weak, progressive, limp wristed , bed wetting Govt. has the powers to do so.

I have no power.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 5:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 5:27pm: Well, get on with it then.  You said it was easy peasy. Only our: weak, progressive, limp wristed , bed wetting Govt. has the powers to do so. I have no power.

Then why promote something you know just will never happen?

Aussie wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 5:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 5:29pm: Aussie wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 5:27pm: Well, get on with it then.  You said it was easy peasy. Only our: weak, progressive, limp wristed , bed wetting Govt. has the powers to do so. I have no power. Then why promote something you know just will never happen?

I just like to remind the Govt. of how piss weak they are & how
we are now all targets for Islamic radicals.

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 4:38pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 4:32pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:05pm: Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim??? :-? :-? :-? My point precisely. How do you define 'Muslim'? this is a Christian country and yet few on here would claim obedience or submission to Christ. Likewise, most Muslims are so by name only. You seam to be a lot more objective since your return Longy....Not that I have ever had a problem debating with you....Welcome back and come out swinging!!! [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=beer.gif]

This place just sucks up too much of my time. I published one book and one short book during my absence. And it is not like I am debating with bright people.  There are a lot of posters here who would struggle to pass a basic literacy and numeracy test and several who wouldnt pass a psych eval.

IM not referring to you. I disagree with you a lot, but you are not a numnuts like a lot.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 5:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 5:27pm: Well, get on with it then.  You said it was easy peasy. Only our: weak, progressive, limp wristed , bed wetting Govt. has the powers to do so. I have no power.

unfortunately so

You really all must be very terrified that you're going to be struck by lightning...   ::)

But you wouldnt stand on an open field during an electrical storm unless you were totally stupid Brian.

rhino wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 6:45pm:

But you wouldnt stand on an open field during an electrical storm unless you were totally stupid Brian.

And what "electrical storm" is happening, Rhino?

I feel utterly safe walking down the street.   I feel utterly safe getting on an aeroplane.  I feel utterly safe, yes, standing in the middle of a field (sans electrical storm).

You are more likely to be struck by lightning than you are to encounter a Muslim terrorist in the streets of Australia.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 6:36pm:

You really all must be very terrified that you're going to be struck by lightning...   ::)

1,200 people killed on our roads last year, yet Booby never thinks twice about getting in his Mum's car.

Moreover, he never condemns drunk drivers or speeders.

However, when he sees a woman in a burqa, he crosses the road and pees his pants.

Strange.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 6:54pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:45pm: But you wouldnt stand on an open field during an electrical storm unless you were totally stupid Brian. And what "electrical storm" is happening, Rhino? I feel utterly safe walking down the street.   I feel utterly safe getting on an aeroplane.  I feel utterly safe, yes, standing in the middle of a field (sans electrical storm). You are more likely to be struck by lightning than you are to encounter a Muslim terrorist in the streets of Australia.    ::)

Are you a happy complacent little camper bwyan? One day one of these lightening bolts will smack you square in your smug fat arse.

burp

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 6:54pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:45pm: But you wouldnt stand on an open field during an electrical storm unless you were totally stupid Brian. And what "electrical storm" is happening, Rhino? I feel utterly safe walking down the street.   I feel utterly safe getting on an aeroplane.  I feel utterly safe, yes, standing in the middle of a field (sans electrical storm). You are more likely to be struck by lightning than you are to encounter a Muslim terrorist in the streets of Australia.

True.

And lightning very rarely strikes in the basement of one's parents.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 6:03pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 4:38pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 4:32pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:05pm: Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim??? :-? :-? :-? My point precisely. How do you define 'Muslim'? this is a Christian country and yet few on here would claim obedience or submission to Christ. Likewise, most Muslims are so by name only. You seam to be a lot more objective since your return Longy....Not that I have ever had a problem debating with you....Welcome back and come out swinging!!! [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=beer.gif] This place just sucks up too much of my time. I published one book and one short book during my absence. And it is not like I am debating with bright people.  There are a lot of posters here who would struggle to pass a basic literacy and numeracy test and several who wouldnt pass a psych eval. IM not referring to you. I disagree with you a lot, but you are not a numnuts like a lot.

Oh, Longy, thank God your back. We’ve missed you. Maria too.

Can you tell me what books you wrote when you were away? I’d like to.read them.

Where can I find a copy?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 7:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:36pm: You really all must be very terrified that you're going to be struck by lightning...   ::) 1,200 people killed on our roads last year, yet sir Bobby never thinks twice about getting in his Mum's car. Moreover, he never condemns drunk drivers or speeders. However, when he sees a woman in a burqa, he crosses the road and pees his pants. Strange.

My late mother died 10 years ago.

Drunk drivers who kill people should be hanged - it's murder.

I can't help having Islamophobia - you shouldn't make fun of people with such conditions.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 6:54pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:45pm: But you wouldnt stand on an open field during an electrical storm unless you were totally stupid Brian. And what "electrical storm" is happening, Rhino? I feel utterly safe walking down the street.   I feel utterly safe getting on an aeroplane.  You are more likely to be struck by lightning than you are to encounter a Muslim terrorist in the streets of Australia.    ::)

the electrical storm is Muslim immigration and like I have said before there is no reason why we cant choose non Islamic migrants. 


Quote:

I feel utterly safe, yes, standing in the middle of a field (sans electrical storm).

then you are really, really stupid because not only do the odds of getting struck by lightning vastly increase it becomes a probability. If this is about you trying to pretend you are a brave man Brian, its not working. Its just convincing me you are a gullible fool.

I suppose the question should be asked....  why do they come to Australia and not an ISLAMIC STATE

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 6:03pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 4:38pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 4:32pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:05pm: Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim??? :-? :-? :-? My point precisely. How do you define 'Muslim'? this is a Christian country and yet few on here would claim obedience or submission to Christ. Likewise, most Muslims are so by name only. You seam to be a lot more objective since your return Longy....Not that I have ever had a problem debating with you....Welcome back and come out swinging!!! [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=beer.gif] This place just sucks up too much of my time. I published one book and one short book during my absence. And it is not like I am debating with bright people.  There are a lot of posters here who would struggle to pass a basic literacy and numeracy test and several who wouldnt pass a psych eval. IM not referring to you. I disagree with you a lot, but you are not a numnuts like a lot.

wb longweekend

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 7:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:54pm: rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:45pm: But you wouldnt stand on an open field during an electrical storm unless you were totally stupid Brian. And what "electrical storm" is happening, Rhino? I feel utterly safe walking down the street.   I feel utterly safe getting on an aeroplane.  I feel utterly safe, yes, standing in the middle of a field (sans electrical storm). You are more likely to be struck by lightning than you are to encounter a Muslim terrorist in the streets of Australia.    ::) Are you a happy complacent little camper bwyan? One day one of these lightening bolts will smack you square in your smug fat arse.

http://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/127489/2448410-yawn_20smiley.jpg

How long have you suffered from Astraphobia?  Or is it Islamophobia?   ::)

rhino wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 8:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:54pm: rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:45pm: But you wouldnt stand on an open field during an electrical storm unless you were totally stupid Brian. And what "electrical storm" is happening, Rhino? I feel utterly safe walking down the street.   I feel utterly safe getting on an aeroplane.  You are more likely to be struck by lightning than you are to encounter a Muslim terrorist in the streets of Australia.    ::) the electrical storm is Muslim immigration and like I have said before there is no reason why we cant choose non Islamic migrants.

And as I have pointed out, such a law would be declared unlawful as per Section 116 of the Constitution.


Quote:

[quote]I feel utterly safe, yes, standing in the middle of a field (sans electrical storm).

then you are really, really stupid because not only do the odds of getting struck by lightning vastly increase it becomes a probability. If this is about you trying to pretend you are a brave man Brian, its not working. Its just convincing me you are a gullible fool.[/quote]

http://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/127489/2448410-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Better to trust my fellow Australians than to discriminate against them because of ignorance and prejudice.     ::)

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 8:35pm:

I suppose the question should be asked....  why do they come to Australia and not an ISLAMIC STATE

Better job opportunities?
Better education for their kids?
Better home to live in?
Not going (normally) to be roused in the middle of the night and shot by the authorities.

Many reason, as to why and all are legitimate and fair, Grendel.   They are the same reasons why your ancestors came to Australia.

To live a better life and be safe.

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 8:35pm:

I suppose the question should be asked....  why do they come to Australia and not an ISLAMIC STATE

Apart from.Saudi Arabia, you mean. About 70% of the population consists of guest workers.

Not to mention ISIS, but let’s not be statist.

ISIS is not a state.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 8:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 7:13pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:36pm: You really all must be very terrified that you're going to be struck by lightning...   ::) 1,200 people killed on our roads last year, yet sir Bobby never thinks twice about getting in his Mum's car. Moreover, he never condemns drunk drivers or speeders. However, when he sees a woman in a burqa, he crosses the road and pees his pants. Strange. My late mother died 10 years ago. Drunk drivers who kill people should be hanged - it's murder. I can't help having Islamophobia - you shouldn't make fun of people with such conditions.

It’s not your fault, Bobbie, you just don’t like dirty, tinted Muslims.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:40pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:35pm: I suppose the question should be asked....  why do they come to Australia and not an ISLAMIC STATE Better job opportunities? Better education for their kids? Better home to live in? Not going (normally) to be roused in the middle of the night and shot by the authorities. Many reason, as to why and all are legitimate and fair, Grendel.   They are the same reasons why your ancestors came to Australia. To live a better life and be safe.

Centerlinks  :D

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:40pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:35pm: I suppose the question should be asked....  why do they come to Australia and not an ISLAMIC STATE Better job opportunities? Better education for their kids? Better home to live in? Not going (normally) to be roused in the middle of the night and shot by the authorities. Many reason, as to why and all are legitimate and fair, Grendel.   They are the same reasons why your ancestors came to Australia. To live a better life and be safe.

Yes, but I think you’ll find Grendel’s ancestors were white.

Chalk and cheese, innit.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:40pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:35pm: I suppose the question should be asked....  why do they come to Australia and not an ISLAMIC STATE Better job opportunities? Better education for their kids? Better home to live in? Not going (normally) to be roused in the middle of the night and shot by the authorities. Many reason, as to why and all are legitimate and fair, Grendel.   They are the same reasons why your ancestors came to Australia. To live a better life and be safe.

Yet they refuse to integrate when in Australia and choose to live in ghettoes of their own kind?
Why should we put up with them?

Karnal wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:40pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:35pm: I suppose the question should be asked....  why do they come to Australia and not an ISLAMIC STATE Better job opportunities? Better education for their kids? Better home to live in? Not going (normally) to be roused in the middle of the night and shot by the authorities. Many reason, as to why and all are legitimate and fair, Grendel.   They are the same reasons why your ancestors came to Australia. To live a better life and be safe. Yes, but I think you’ll find Grendel’s ancestors were white. Chalk and cheese, innit.

Half the problem in today's society is you can't mention immigration controls and risk reduction without some fool yelling racism.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 6:54pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:45pm: But you wouldnt stand on an open field during an electrical storm unless you were totally stupid Brian. And what "electrical storm" is happening, Rhino? I feel utterly safe walking down the street.   I feel utterly safe getting on an aeroplane.  I feel utterly safe, yes, standing in the middle of a field (sans electrical storm). You are more likely to be struck by lightning than you are to encounter a Muslim terrorist in the streets of Australia.    ::)

the irony is that the son of a friend of mine was struck and killed by lightning this years in adelaide in January. And yet there has still not been a terrorist attack here.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:38pm:

[ And as I have pointed out, such a law would be declared unlawful as per Section 116 of the Constitution.

wrong.  Only prohibits the government from making laws prohibiting practise of religion in Australia and does not apply to foreign citizens. You keep failing at this Brian.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:40pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:35pm: I suppose the question should be asked....  why do they come to Australia and not an ISLAMIC STATE Better job opportunities? Better education for their kids? Better home to live in? Not going (normally) to be roused in the middle of the night and shot by the authorities. Many reason, as to why and all are legitimate and fair, Grendel.   They are the same reasons why your ancestors came to Australia. To live a better life and be safe.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:40pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:35pm: I suppose the question should be asked....  why do they come to Australia and not an ISLAMIC STATE Better job opportunities? Better education for their kids? Better home to live in? Not going (normally) to be roused in the middle of the night and shot by the authorities. Many reason, as to why and all are legitimate and fair, Grendel.   They are the same reasons why your ancestors came to Australia. To live a better life and be safe.

Yes but my ancestors were culturally compatible.  All you are saying is we are a soft touch for them and that our society is better than theirs or any other Islamic State....  gee bwian why would that be?

Why wouldn't they prefer a more culturally acceptable society/country to live in?  Oh right because we offer them more. :D :D :D  So they come here because they are greedy?

We have to make them not want to come here.

Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia?

And deprive the Liberal party of an election campaign ?

Karnal wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:40pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:35pm: I suppose the question should be asked....  why do they come to Australia and not an ISLAMIC STATE Better job opportunities? Better education for their kids? Better home to live in? Not going (normally) to be roused in the middle of the night and shot by the authorities. Many reason, as to why and all are legitimate and fair, Grendel.   They are the same reasons why your ancestors came to Australia. To live a better life and be safe. Yes, but I think you’ll find Grendel’s ancestors were white. Chalk and cheese, innit.

Ah Lamo the racist speaks again...  sorry Islam is not  a race Lamo didn't you know?
I don't speak in colours like you, did they teach you that in the racist Islamic Youth Movement?
Listen Lamo, you and bwian should just get a room and leave the rest of us in peace.
No matter how often you two lie about me or try to claim I'm racist, you will always fail.  Because its a lie. :D :D :D :D :D

Karnal wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:14pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 7:13pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:36pm: You really all must be very terrified that you're going to be struck by lightning...   ::) 1,200 people killed on our roads last year, yet sir Bobby never thinks twice about getting in his Mum's car. Moreover, he never condemns drunk drivers or speeders. However, when he sees a woman in a burqa, he crosses the road and pees his pants. Strange. My late mother died 10 years ago. Drunk drivers who kill people should be hanged - it's murder. I can't help having Islamophobia - you shouldn't make fun of people with such conditions. It’s not your fault, Bobbie, you just don’t like dirty, tinted Muslims.

I don't like religious nuts who want to kill me because I

don't believe in their chosen sky fairy.

rhino wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 10:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:38pm: [ And as I have pointed out, such a law would be declared unlawful as per Section 116 of the Constitution. wrong.  Only prohibits the government from making laws prohibiting practise of religion in Australia and does not apply to foreign citizens. You keep failing at this Brian.

You are probably starting to see why nobody could be bothered with Brian's forum which is lucky to have one person there.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:23pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 10:12pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:38pm: [ And as I have pointed out, such a law would be declared unlawful as per Section 116 of the Constitution. wrong.  Only prohibits the government from making laws prohibiting practise of religion in Australia and does not apply to foreign citizens. You keep failing at this Brian. You are probably starting to see why nobody could be bothered with Brian's forum which is lucky to have one person there.

Brian is a 'person' !?           :o

I was convinced that 'he' was a malicious bot.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 6:03pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 4:38pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 4:32pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:05pm: Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim??? :-? :-? :-? My point precisely. How do you define 'Muslim'? this is a Christian country and yet few on here would claim obedience or submission to Christ. Likewise, most Muslims are so by name only. You seam to be a lot more objective since your return Longy....Not that I have ever had a problem debating with you....Welcome back and come out swinging!!! [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=beer.gif] This place just sucks up too much of my time. I published one book and one short book during my absence. And it is not like I am debating with bright people.  There are a lot of posters here who would struggle to pass a basic literacy and numeracy test and several who wouldnt pass a psych eval. IM not referring to you. I disagree with you a lot, but you are not a numnuts like a lot.

Fair enough....I just like to challenge my own rusted on beliefs which you oblige!!!

Cheerz Longy!!!

[smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=beer.gif]

With a bit of humour if possible!!!

A conservative is a man who believes that nothing should be done for the first time.
Alfred E. Wiggam

;) ;) ;)

Gordon wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:40pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:35pm: I suppose the question should be asked....  why do they come to Australia and not an ISLAMIC STATE Better job opportunities? Better education for their kids? Better home to live in? Not going (normally) to be roused in the middle of the night and shot by the authorities. Many reason, as to why and all are legitimate and fair, Grendel.   They are the same reasons why your ancestors came to Australia. To live a better life and be safe. Centerlinks  :D

Try "Centrelink"...

As they would be migrating to become citizens, they would be entitled to the full range of Social Security benefits.   Personally, I don't have a problem with that.   Obviously you do.  Do you have a problem with your fellow Australians from sourcing those benefits?   ::)

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:57pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:40pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:35pm: I suppose the question should be asked....  why do they come to Australia and not an ISLAMIC STATE Better job opportunities? Better education for their kids? Better home to live in? Not going (normally) to be roused in the middle of the night and shot by the authorities. Many reason, as to why and all are legitimate and fair, Grendel.   They are the same reasons why your ancestors came to Australia. To live a better life and be safe. Yet they refuse to integrate when in Australia and choose to live in ghettoes of their own kind? Why should we put up with them?

Perhaps because we don't have laws about where someone can live or who they associate with?

Or do you wish to see such a Soviet style system to be put in place?

Oh, dear...   ::) ::)

rhino wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 10:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:38pm: [ And as I have pointed out, such a law would be declared unlawful as per Section 116 of the Constitution. wrong.  Only prohibits the government from making laws prohibiting practise of religion in Australia and does not apply to foreign citizens. You keep failing at this Brian.

Does Section 116 say that?  I don't think so...   ::)

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 10:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:40pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:35pm: I suppose the question should be asked....  why do they come to Australia and not an ISLAMIC STATE Better job opportunities? Better education for their kids? Better home to live in? Not going (normally) to be roused in the middle of the night and shot by the authorities. Many reason, as to why and all are legitimate and fair, Grendel.   They are the same reasons why your ancestors came to Australia. To live a better life and be safe. Yes but my ancestors were culturally compatible.

What?  They respected the culture of the Indigenous inhabitants, Grendel?  Really?   I would admire them if that was true but we both know it isn't, don't we, Grendel?   ::)

There has been no proof that Muslims, whom come from the world-wide range of cultures, are "incompatible" with Australia's multiculture, Grendel.


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All you are saying is we are a soft touch for them and that our society is better than theirs or any other Islamic State....  gee bwian why would that be?

It may be, it may not be.   You seem to be wanting one sized solutions for a problem that has many facets, Grendel.   Now, what was I saying about you wanting uniformity?   ::)


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Why wouldn't they prefer a more culturally acceptable society/country to live in?  Oh right because we offer them more. :D :D :D  So they come here because they are greedy?

No, they come here because they know they will have a better life.   Why did your ancestors come here?   'cause they were in chains?    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 12:36am:

rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 10:12pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:38pm: [ And as I have pointed out, such a law would be declared unlawful as per Section 116 of the Constitution. wrong.  Only prohibits the government from making laws prohibiting practise of religion in Australia and does not apply to foreign citizens. You keep failing at this Brian. Does Section 116 say that?  I don't think so...   ::)

Maybe you should read it then before quoting it  ;D

rhino wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 12:41am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 12:36am: rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 10:12pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:38pm: [ And as I have pointed out, such a law would be declared unlawful as per Section 116 of the Constitution. wrong.  Only prohibits the government from making laws prohibiting practise of religion in Australia and does not apply to foreign citizens. You keep failing at this Brian. Does Section 116 say that?  I don't think so...   ::) Maybe you should read it then before quoting it  ;D

Look at my signature, dummy.    ::)

rhino wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 10:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:38pm: [ And as I have pointed out, such a law would be declared unlawful as per Section 116 of the Constitution. wrong.  Only prohibits the government from making laws prohibiting practise of religion in Australia and does not apply to foreign citizens. You keep failing at this Brian.

and YOU are wrong. The constitution bans laws making a state religion or religiously biased laws.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 12:40am:

Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 10:44pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:40pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:35pm: I suppose the question should be asked....  why do they come to Australia and not an ISLAMIC STATE Better job opportunities? Better education for their kids? Better home to live in? Not going (normally) to be roused in the middle of the night and shot by the authorities. Many reason, as to why and all are legitimate and fair, Grendel.   They are the same reasons why your ancestors came to Australia. To live a better life and be safe. Yes but my ancestors were culturally compatible.  What?  They respected the culture of the Indigenous inhabitants, Grendel?  Really?  You are such an idiot...  yes they were culturally compatible.  I would admire them if that was true but we both know it isn't, don't we, Grendel?   ::)  Actually what we do know bwian is you are an idiot and keep proving it. :D :D :D There has been no proof that Muslims, whom come from the world-wide range of cultures, are "incompatible" with Australia's multiculture, Grendel.  Islam is a cultural lifestyle, a political ideology as much as it is a religion bwian...  didn't you know?  Ask one of your Muslim friends... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  and yes Bwian if they form enclaves refuse to marry outside the group, disrespect the law, abjure democracy, etc, etc, etc...  then yes they are INCOMPATIBLE with the broader Australian culture and society bwian...  As for MULTICULTI that stupid, flawed, failing settlement policy that the government keeps having to tinker with, it should be abandoned, diversity as proven in the largest study ever done on it shows that diversity increases disharmony...  perhaps we should have a DISHARMONY DAY...  if the government didn't fund the idiocy of Multiculti we would not have a deficit problem, we have wasted billions propping it up. Quote: All you are saying is we are a soft touch for them and that our society is better than theirs or any other Islamic State....  gee bwian why would that be? It may be, it may not be.  Oh cant bring yourself to be honest?  How unusual for you.. You seem to be wanting one sized solutions for a problem that has many facets, Grendel. Oh don't start that regurgitated crap again bwian, be an adult.    Now, what was I saying about you wanting uniformity?   ::) I don't know, you lie so much, as far as welfare goes we should have uniformity of purpose shouldn't we, where we are all on a level playing field...  Should one race or ethnicity have rules just for them?  I think not.  If you are here, if you are Australian then you should be Australian, and all should have the same  UNIFORM rights.  You are such an idiot. [quote] Why wouldn't they prefer a more culturally acceptable society/country to live in?  Oh right because we offer them more. :D :D :D  So they come here because they are greedy?

No, they come here because they know they will have a better life.   Because they are greedy.... Why did your ancestors come here?   'cause they were in chains?  Because the government was looking to increase the population and grow the skill pool.  I was born here...  THAT MAKES ME INDIGENOUS.  What's your point..?  Oh right...  you don't have one... ::)[/quote]

muslims should be banned because islam is incompatible with Australia.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:44pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:14pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 7:13pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:36pm: You really all must be very terrified that you're going to be struck by lightning...   ::) 1,200 people killed on our roads last year, yet sir Bobby never thinks twice about getting in his Mum's car. Moreover, he never condemns drunk drivers or speeders. However, when he sees a woman in a burqa, he crosses the road and pees his pants. Strange. My late mother died 10 years ago. Drunk drivers who kill people should be hanged - it's murder. I can't help having Islamophobia - you shouldn't make fun of people with such conditions. It’s not your fault, Bobbie, you just don’t like dirty, tinted Muslims. I don't like religious nuts who want to kill me because I don't believe in their chosen sky fairy.

Forgive them.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:40pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:35pm: I suppose the question should be asked....  why do they come to Australia and not an ISLAMIC STATE Better job opportunities? Better education for their kids? Better home to live in? Not going (normally) to be roused in the middle of the night and shot by the authorities. Many reason, as to why and all are legitimate and fair, Grendel.   They are the same reasons why your ancestors came to Australia. To live a better life and be safe.

Look at Sam Dastardly - sucked deeply off the hind teat of everything Australia could offer...... but doesn't want to discuss the problem of non-integrational social groups with a massive potential for violence and crime.

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 10:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:53pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:40pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:35pm: I suppose the question should be asked....  why do they come to Australia and not an ISLAMIC STATE Better job opportunities? Better education for their kids? Better home to live in? Not going (normally) to be roused in the middle of the night and shot by the authorities. Many reason, as to why and all are legitimate and fair, Grendel.   They are the same reasons why your ancestors came to Australia. To live a better life and be safe. Yes, but I think you’ll find Grendel’s ancestors were white. Chalk and cheese, innit. Ah Lamo the racist speaks again...  sorry Islam is not  a race Lamo didn't you know? I don't speak in colours like you, did they teach you that in the racist Islamic Youth Movement? Listen Lamo, you and bwian should just get a room and leave the rest of us in peace. No matter how often you two lie about me or try to claim I'm racist, you will always fail.  Because its a lie. :D :D :D :D :D

Touch of the tarbrush in you is there, dear? A little black bastard in your family tree, its breeder raped and killed by your hardworking salf-of-the-earth ancestors?

No worriee, we’ve all done it. You can’t help it if you’re tinted.

We’re all friends here, dear.

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 11:49am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:40pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:35pm: I suppose the question should be asked....  why do they come to Australia and not an ISLAMIC STATE Better job opportunities? Better education for their kids? Better home to live in? Not going (normally) to be roused in the middle of the night and shot by the authorities. Many reason, as to why and all are legitimate and fair, Grendel.   They are the same reasons why your ancestors came to Australia. To live a better life and be safe. Look at Sam Dastardly - sucked deeply off the hind teat of everything Australia could offer...... but doesn't want to discuss the problem of non-integrational social groups with a massive potential for violence and crime.

Strange. Every time this issue’s discussed, there’s Sam Dastiari.

He must have a double, no?

Karnal wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 11:51am:

Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 10:51pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:53pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:40pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:35pm: I suppose the question should be asked....  why do they come to Australia and not an ISLAMIC STATE Better job opportunities? Better education for their kids? Better home to live in? Not going (normally) to be roused in the middle of the night and shot by the authorities. Many reason, as to why and all are legitimate and fair, Grendel.   They are the same reasons why your ancestors came to Australia. To live a better life and be safe. Yes, but I think you’ll find Grendel’s ancestors were white. Chalk and cheese, innit. Ah Lamo the racist speaks again...  sorry Islam is not  a race Lamo didn't you know? I don't speak in colours like you, did they teach you that in the racist Islamic Youth Movement? Listen Lamo, you and bwian should just get a room and leave the rest of us in peace. No matter how often you two lie about me or try to claim I'm racist, you will always fail.  Because its a lie. :D :D :D :D :D Touch of the tarbrush in you is there, dear? A little black bastard in your family tree, its breeder raped and killed by your hardworking salf-of-the-earth ancestors? No worriee, we’ve all done it. You can’t help it if you’re tinted. We’re all friends here, dear.

Funnily enough I prefer a tan Lamo, now take your racist Islamic Youth self off to somewhere private and do what you obviously have to. :D :D :D :D :D

Grendel wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 11:56am:

Karnal wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 11:51am: Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 10:51pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:53pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:40pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:35pm: I suppose the question should be asked....  why do they come to Australia and not an ISLAMIC STATE Better job opportunities? Better education for their kids? Better home to live in? Not going (normally) to be roused in the middle of the night and shot by the authorities. Many reason, as to why and all are legitimate and fair, Grendel.   They are the same reasons why your ancestors came to Australia. To live a better life and be safe. Yes, but I think you’ll find Grendel’s ancestors were white. Chalk and cheese, innit. Ah Lamo the racist speaks again...  sorry Islam is not  a race Lamo didn't you know? I don't speak in colours like you, did they teach you that in the racist Islamic Youth Movement? Listen Lamo, you and bwian should just get a room and leave the rest of us in peace. No matter how often you two lie about me or try to claim I'm racist, you will always fail.  Because its a lie. :D :D :D :D :D Touch of the tarbrush in you is there, dear? A little black bastard in your family tree, its breeder raped and killed by your hardworking salf-of-the-earth ancestors? No worriee, we’ve all done it. You can’t help it if you’re tinted. We’re all friends here, dear. Funnily enough I prefer a tan Lamo, now take your racist Islamic Youth self off to somewhere private and do what you obviously have to. :D :D :D :D :D

But Grendel, why didn’t you just say you were a dirty Boong? It explains your aversion to Pauline’s ideas perfectly.

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 11:49am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:40pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:35pm: I suppose the question should be asked....  why do they come to Australia and not an ISLAMIC STATE Better job opportunities? Better education for their kids? Better home to live in? Not going (normally) to be roused in the middle of the night and shot by the authorities. Many reason, as to why and all are legitimate and fair, Grendel.   They are the same reasons why your ancestors came to Australia. To live a better life and be safe. Look at Sam Dastardly - sucked deeply off the hind teat of everything Australia could offer...... but doesn't want to discuss the problem of non-integrational social groups with a massive potential for violence and crime.

true

Karnal wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 11:53am:

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 11:49am: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:40pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:35pm: I suppose the question should be asked....  why do they come to Australia and not an ISLAMIC STATE Better job opportunities? Better education for their kids? Better home to live in? Not going (normally) to be roused in the middle of the night and shot by the authorities. Many reason, as to why and all are legitimate and fair, Grendel.   They are the same reasons why your ancestors came to Australia. To live a better life and be safe. Look at Sam Dastardly - sucked deeply off the hind teat of everything Australia could offer...... but doesn't want to discuss the problem of non-integrational social groups with a massive potential for violence and crime. Strange. Every time this issue’s discussed, there’s Sam Dastiari. He must have a double, no?

He IS a double.... a sort of blow-up doll ..... every time the issue of non-integrational social groups comes up, the Labor Party fill him with hot air and send him out to do battle with the Infidel.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 9:06am:

rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 10:12pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:38pm: [ And as I have pointed out, such a law would be declared unlawful as per Section 116 of the Constitution. wrong.  Only prohibits the government from making laws prohibiting practise of religion in Australia and does not apply to foreign citizens. You keep failing at this Brian. and YOU are wrong. The constitution bans laws making a state religion or religiously biased laws.

Show how the Australian constitution applies to foreign citizens. Keep sticking that chin out, Lol.

rhino wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 12:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 9:06am: rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 10:12pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:38pm: [ And as I have pointed out, such a law would be declared unlawful as per Section 116 of the Constitution. wrong.  Only prohibits the government from making laws prohibiting practise of religion in Australia and does not apply to foreign citizens. You keep failing at this Brian. and YOU are wrong. The constitution bans laws making a state religion or religiously biased laws. Show how the Australian constitution applies to foreign citizens. Keep sticking that chin out, Lol.

It doesn't have to.  It applies to the laws that the Australian Parliament passes, wally.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 3:04pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 12:17pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 9:06am: rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 10:12pm: [quote author=Brian_Ross link=1469243035/100#100 date=1469273886][ And as I have pointed out, such a law would be declared unlawful as per Section 116 of the Constitution. wrong.  Only prohibits the government from making laws prohibiting practise of religion in Australia and does not apply to foreign citizens. You keep failing at this Brian. and YOU are wrong. The constitution bans laws making a state religion or religiously biased laws. Show how the Australian constitution applies to foreign citizens. Keep sticking that chin out, Lol. [/ It doesn't have to.  It applies to the laws that the Australian Parliament passes, wally.   ::)

It applies to foreign citizens living here while seeking citizenship, when they set about trying to set up religious based laws.  Part of integration..... learn our way or it's the seaway/airway ....

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 3:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 3:04pm: rhino wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 12:17pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 9:06am: rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 10:12pm: [quote author=Brian_Ross link=1469243035/100#100 date=1469273886][ And as I have pointed out, such a law would be declared unlawful as per Section 116 of the Constitution. wrong.  Only prohibits the government from making laws prohibiting practise of religion in Australia and does not apply to foreign citizens. You keep failing at this Brian. and YOU are wrong. The constitution bans laws making a state religion or religiously biased laws. Show how the Australian constitution applies to foreign citizens. Keep sticking that chin out, Lol. [/ It doesn't have to.  It applies to the laws that the Australian Parliament passes, wally.   ::) It applies to foreign citizens living here while seeking citizenship, when they set about trying to set up religious based laws.  Part of integration..... learn our way or it's the seaway/airway ....

True.

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In August 1992, the Parliamentary Joint Standing Committee on Migration Regulation, which had been established in 1990, published a report entitled Australia's refugee and humanitarian system: Achieving a balance between refuge and control. 33 As a result of that report, the Migration Reform Act 1992 (Cth) was enacted. Under the 1992 Amending Act the visa was made the single authority under which, for most purposes, a non-citizen could be permitted to enter into or remain in Australia.

http://www.hcourt.gov.au/assets/publications/speeches/current-justices/frenchcj/frenchcj25mar11.pdf

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 3:04pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 12:17pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 9:06am: rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 10:12pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:38pm: [ And as I have pointed out, such a law would be declared unlawful as per Section 116 of the Constitution. wrong.  Only prohibits the government from making laws prohibiting practise of religion in Australia and does not apply to foreign citizens. You keep failing at this Brian. and YOU are wrong. The constitution bans laws making a state religion or religiously biased laws. Show how the Australian constitution applies to foreign citizens. Keep sticking that chin out, Lol. It doesn't have to.  It applies to the laws that the Australian Parliament passes, wally.   ::)

which do not apply to foreign citizens.

rhino wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 3:32pm:

Quote: In August 1992, the Parliamentary Joint Standing Committee on Migration Regulation, which had been established in 1990, published a report entitled Australia's refugee and humanitarian system: Achieving a balance between refuge and control. 33 As a result of that report, the Migration Reform Act 1992 (Cth) was enacted. Under the 1992 Amending Act the visa was made the single authority under which, for most purposes, a non-citizen could be permitted to enter into or remain in Australia. http://www.hcourt.gov.au/assets/publications/speeches/current-justices/frenchcj/frenchcj25mar11.pdf

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n the last 20  years or so the judicial power has been invoked in the field of migration   with   far   greater   frequency   than   at   any  other   time   in   our   history.  Parliament has legislated to try to confine the jurisdiction of the courts and the scope of  judicial  review.    It  is,  however,a  central  feature  of  the  Australian  Constitution that   judicial   review   of   the   exercise   of   power   by   Commonwealth   officers   is entrenched.    It  cannot  be  removed  by  statute  nor  side-stepped  by  the  operation  of privative clauses.

Section 116. 

rhino wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 3:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 3:04pm: rhino wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 12:17pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 9:06am: rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 10:12pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:38pm: [ And as I have pointed out, such a law would be declared unlawful as per Section 116 of the Constitution. wrong.  Only prohibits the government from making laws prohibiting practise of religion in Australia and does not apply to foreign citizens. You keep failing at this Brian. and YOU are wrong. The constitution bans laws making a state religion or religiously biased laws. Show how the Australian constitution applies to foreign citizens. Keep sticking that chin out, Lol. It doesn't have to.  It applies to the laws that the Australian Parliament passes, wally.   ::) which do not apply to foreign citizens.

So,  the Migration Act doesn't apply to foreigners?

So,  all Australian legislation does not apply to foreign residents then?

You really are being silly, you realise?   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 3:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 3:32pm: Quote: In August 1992, the Parliamentary Joint Standing Committee on Migration Regulation, which had been established in 1990, published a report entitled Australia's refugee and humanitarian system: Achieving a balance between refuge and control. 33 As a result of that report, the Migration Reform Act 1992 (Cth) was enacted. Under the 1992 Amending Act the visa was made the single authority under which, for most purposes, a non-citizen could be permitted to enter into or remain in Australia. http://www.hcourt.gov.au/assets/publications/speeches/current-justices/frenchcj/frenchcj25mar11.pdf [quote] n the last 20  years or so the judicial power has been invoked in the field of migration   with   far   greater   frequency   than   at   any  other   time   in   our   history.  Parliament has legislated to try to confine the jurisdiction of the courts and the scope of  judicial  review.    It  is,  however,a  central  feature  of  the  Australian  Constitution that   judicial   review   of   the   exercise   of   power   by   Commonwealth   officers   is entrenched.    It  cannot  be  removed  by  statute  nor  side-stepped  by  the  operation  of privative clauses.

Section 116.  [/quote]Thats referring to review of refugee visa, nothing to do with foreign citizens not yet in australia. if you cant get this brian then ufortunately im just going to have to conclude you are missing a chromosone.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 3:37pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 3:33pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 3:04pm: rhino wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 12:17pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 9:06am: rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 10:12pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:38pm: [ And as I have pointed out, such a law would be declared unlawful as per Section 116 of the Constitution. wrong.  Only prohibits the government from making laws prohibiting practise of religion in Australia and does not apply to foreign citizens. You keep failing at this Brian. and YOU are wrong. The constitution bans laws making a state religion or religiously biased laws. Show how the Australian constitution applies to foreign citizens. Keep sticking that chin out, Lol. It doesn't have to.  It applies to the laws that the Australian Parliament passes, wally.   ::) which do not apply to foreign citizens. So,  the Migration Act doesn't apply to foreigners? So,  all Australian legislation does not apply to foreign residents then? You really are being silly, you realise?   ::)

correct. Is this had to understand? Does Indonesian law apply in Australia?
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rhino wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 3:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 3:37pm: rhino wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 3:33pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 3:04pm: rhino wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 12:17pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 9:06am: rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 10:12pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:38pm: [ And as I have pointed out, such a law would be declared unlawful as per Section 116 of the Constitution. wrong.  Only prohibits the government from making laws prohibiting practise of religion in Australia and does not apply to foreign citizens. You keep failing at this Brian. and YOU are wrong. The constitution bans laws making a state religion or religiously biased laws. Show how the Australian constitution applies to foreign citizens. Keep sticking that chin out, Lol. It doesn't have to.  It applies to the laws that the Australian Parliament passes, wally.   ::) which do not apply to foreign citizens. So,  the Migration Act doesn't apply to foreigners? So,  all Australian legislation does not apply to foreign residents then? You really are being silly, you realise?   ::) correct.

So, why should I bother with your replies if you are being silly?   ::)

Maybe Schappelle Corby should have tried the Brian Ross defence. lol

The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.

There is  nothing there to say that you cannot bar someone from Australia on religious grounds.

MIGRATION ACT 1958 - SECT 501

Refusal or cancellation of visa on character grounds
Decision of Minister or delegate--natural justice applies

             (1)  The Minister may refuse to grant a visa to a person if the person does not satisfy the Minister that the person passes the character test.

Note:          Character test is defined by subsection (6).

             (2)  The Minister may cancel a visa that has been granted to a person if:

                     (a)  the Minister reasonably suspects that the person does not pass the character test; and

                     (b)  the person does not satisfy the Minister that the person passes the character test.

Decision of Minister--natural justice does not apply.

(6)  For the purposes of this section, a person does not pass the character test if:

                     (a)  the person has a substantial criminal record (as defined by subsection (7)); or

                    (aa)  the person has been convicted of an offence that was committed:

                              (i)  while the person was in immigration detention; or

                             (ii)  during an escape by the person from immigration detention; or

                            (iii)  after the person escaped from immigration detention but before the person was taken into immigration detention again; or

                   (ab)  the person has been convicted of an offence against section 197A; or

                     (b)  the Minister reasonably suspects:

                              (i)  that the person has been or is a member of a group or organisation, or has had or has an association with a group, organisation or person; and

                             (ii)  that the group, organisation or person has been or is involved in criminal conduct; or

                   (ba)  the Minister reasonably suspects that the person has been or is involved in conduct constituting one or more of the following:

                              (i)  an offence under one or more of sections 233A to 234A (people smuggling);

                             (ii)  an offence of trafficking in persons;

                            (iii)  the crime of genocide, a crime against humanity, a war crime, a crime involving torture or slavery or a crime that is otherwise of serious international concern;

                            whether or not the person, or another person, has been convicted of an offence constituted by the conduct; or

                     (c)  having regard to either or both of the following:

                              (i)  the person's past and present criminal conduct;

                             (ii)  the person's past and present general conduct;

                            the person is not of good character; or

                     (d)  in the event the person were allowed to enter or to remain in Australia, there is a risk that the person would:

                              (i)  engage in criminal conduct in Australia; or

                             (ii)  harass, molest, intimidate or stalk another person in Australia; or

                            (iii)  vilify a segment of the Australian community; or

                            (iv)  incite discord in the Australian community or in a segment of that community; or

                             (v)  represent a danger to the Australian community or to a segment of that community, whether by way of being liable to become involved in activities that are disruptive to, or in violence threatening harm to, that community or segment, or in any other way; or

                     (e)  a court in Australia or a foreign country has:

                              (i)  convicted the person of one or more sexually based offences involving a child; or

                             (ii)  found the person guilty of such an offence, or found a charge against the person proved for such an offence, even if the person was discharged without a conviction; or

                      (f)  the person has, in Australia or a foreign country, been charged with or indicted for one or more of the following:

                              (i)  the crime of genocide;

                             (ii)  a crime against humanity;

                            (iii)  a war crime;

                            (iv)  a crime involving torture or slavery;

                             (v)  a crime that is otherwise of serious international concern; or

                     (g)  the person has been assessed by the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation to be directly or indirectly a risk to security (within the meaning of section 4 of the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation Act 1979 ); or

                     (h)  an Interpol notice in relation to the person, from which it is reasonable to infer that the person would present a risk to the Australian community or a segment of that community, is in force.
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Don't sweat the small stuff lovies. When the crushing overwhelming majority of aussie want moozlims banned the beurocrats will put their heads together and work out a way.

Not long now.

Frank wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 7:09pm:

The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth. There is  nothing there to say that you cannot bar someone from Australia on religious grounds. MIGRATION ACT 1958 - SECT 501 Refusal or cancellation of visa on character grounds Decision of Minister or delegate--natural justice applies              (1)  The Minister may refuse to grant a visa to a person if the person does not satisfy the Minister that the person passes the character test. Note:          Character test is defined by subsection (6).              (2)  The Minister may cancel a visa that has been granted to a person if:                      (a)  the Minister reasonably suspects that the person does not pass the character test; and                      (b)  the person does not satisfy the Minister that the person passes the character test. Decision of Minister--natural justice does not apply. (6)  For the purposes of this section, a person does not pass the character test if:                      (a)  the person has a substantial criminal record (as defined by subsection (7)); or                     (aa)  the person has been convicted of an offence that was committed:                               (i)  while the person was in immigration detention; or                              (ii)  during an escape by the person from immigration detention; or                             (iii)  after the person escaped from immigration detention but before the person was taken into immigration detention again; or                    (ab)  the person has been convicted of an offence against section 197A; or                      (b)  the Minister reasonably suspects:                               (i)  that the person has been or is a member of a group or organisation, or has had or has an association with a group, organisation or person; and                              (ii)  that the group, organisation or person has been or is involved in criminal conduct; or                    (ba)  the Minister reasonably suspects that the person has been or is involved in conduct constituting one or more of the following:                               (i)  an offence under one or more of sections 233A to 234A (people smuggling);                              (ii)  an offence of trafficking in persons;                             (iii)  the crime of genocide, a crime against humanity, a war crime, a crime involving torture or slavery or a crime that is otherwise of serious international concern;                             whether or not the person, or another person, has been convicted of an offence constituted by the conduct; or                      (c)  having regard to either or both of the following:                               (i)  the person's past and present criminal conduct;                              (ii)  the person's past and present general conduct;                             the person is not of good character; or                      (d)  in the event the person were allowed to enter or to remain in Australia, there is a risk that the person would:                  &nbs...

Thanks Frank

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..............Decision of Minister--natural justice does not apply. (6)  For the purposes of this section, a person does not pass the character test if:  ........... .................(b)  the Minister reasonably suspects:                               (i)  that the person has been or is a member of a group or organisation, or has had or has an association with a group, organisation or person; and                              (ii)  that the group, organisation or person has been or is involved in criminal conduct; or  ............                   ................       (iii)  vilify a segment of the Australian community; or                             (iv)  incite discord in the Australian community or in a segment of that community; or                              (v) represent a danger to the Australian community or to a segment of that community, whether by way of being liable to become involved in activities that are disruptive to, or in violence threatening harm to, that community or segment, or in any other way; or..................

Thanks very much Frank

rhino wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 12:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 9:06am: rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 10:12pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:38pm: [ And as I have pointed out, such a law would be declared unlawful as per Section 116 of the Constitution. wrong.  Only prohibits the government from making laws prohibiting practise of religion in Australia and does not apply to foreign citizens. You keep failing at this Brian. and YOU are wrong. The constitution bans laws making a state religion or religiously biased laws. Show how the Australian constitution applies to foreign citizens. Keep sticking that chin out, Lol.

try and get that brain cell back from wherever you left it. the australian constitution applies to EVERYONE IN AUSTRALIA - even when visiting.

You are staggeringly ill-informed on almost every topic. Do you think you are not subject to the laws of any country you visit?  A consitution is ultimately no more than the supreme law of that country.

idiot.

rhino wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 3:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 3:37pm: rhino wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 3:33pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 3:04pm: rhino wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 12:17pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 9:06am: rhino wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 10:12pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:38pm: [ And as I have pointed out, such a law would be declared unlawful as per Section 116 of the Constitution. wrong.  Only prohibits the government from making laws prohibiting practise of religion in Australia and does not apply to foreign citizens. You keep failing at this Brian. and YOU are wrong. The constitution bans laws making a state religion or religiously biased laws. Show how the Australian constitution applies to foreign citizens. Keep sticking that chin out, Lol. It doesn't have to.  It applies to the laws that the Australian Parliament passes, wally.   ::) which do not apply to foreign citizens. So,  the Migration Act doesn't apply to foreigners? So,  all Australian legislation does not apply to foreign residents then? You really are being silly, you realise?   ::) correct. Is this had to understand? Does Indonesian law apply in Australia? n

You really are a stupid, stupid person. Pansi-esque in fact.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:30pm:

matty wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:03pm: Three Australians have been killed in less than two years here on our soil ... And how many have been killed by non-Muslims?

Stupid argument. How many have been killed by Christian terrorists? Or Jewish terrorists? Or Buddhist terrorists?

Australia has the same amount of Buddhists and Muslims, and yet you never ever hear of any Buddhists causing trouble like Muslims. Ever travel to Lakemba, Lidcombe or Auburn? You'd swear you had just landed in Iraq.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:21pm:

yes, ban any new muslims from here. I would ban islam from Aust. it is a death cult

Glad to see someone else with some common sense and care for the country, Sprint.

Bam wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:05pm:

matty wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:03pm: Islam is a barbaric, disgusting and violent politicsl ideology So you think you can counter hate with hate? It's not going to work.  ::)

Actually it's love, love for my country.

matty wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:30pm: matty wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:03pm: Three Australians have been killed in less than two years here on our soil ... And how many have been killed by non-Muslims? Stupid argument. How many have been killed by Christian terrorists? Or Jewish terrorists? Or Buddhist terrorists? Australia has the same amount of Buddhists and Muslims, and yet you never ever hear of any Buddhists causing trouble like Muslims. Ever travel to Lakemba, Lidcombe or Auburn? You'd swear you had just landed in Iraq.

And how many have been killed by non-Muslims?

____ wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:06pm:

When will Australian Conservatives stop funding Islamic Fundamentalist Terror via buying Saudi Oil Matty? http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1469166668

What are you on about woody?

When will Australian leftists stop excusing Islamic terrorism and killing homosexuals just for being homosexuals?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:37pm:

matty wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 8:35pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:30pm: matty wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:03pm: Three Australians have been killed in less than two years here on our soil ... And how many have been killed by non-Muslims? Stupid argument. How many have been killed by Christian terrorists? Or Jewish terrorists? Or Buddhist terrorists? Australia has the same amount of Buddhists and Muslims, and yet you never ever hear of any Buddhists causing trouble like Muslims. Ever travel to Lakemba, Lidcombe or Auburn? You'd swear you had just landed in Iraq. And how many have been killed by non-Muslims?

I don't know, do you? However I do know the answer to my question. ZERO.

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:05pm:

Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim??? :-? :-? :-?

Of course it can work. Just don't let them come. How to check? See what their religion is before being allowed to come. Middle Eastern Christians are the most persecuted people in the world, they should be allowed here but no Muslims. Their only intention in coming here is to outbreed and take over.

matty wrote on Jul 24^th, 2016 at 8:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 8:37pm: matty wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 8:35pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:30pm: matty wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 1:03pm: Three Australians have been killed in less than two years here on our soil ... And how many have been killed by non-Muslims? Stupid argument. How many have been killed by Christian terrorists? Or Jewish terrorists? Or Buddhist terrorists? Australia has the same amount of Buddhists and Muslims, and yet you never ever hear of any Buddhists causing trouble like Muslims. Ever travel to Lakemba, Lidcombe or Auburn? You'd swear you had just landed in Iraq. And how many have been killed by non-Muslims? I don't know, do you?

Yes.

Many, many, many more.