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Message started by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:18am

Title: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:18am
Merde  :'(

http://www.smh.com.au/world/bastille-day-in-nice-france-truck-ploughs-into-crowd-many-injured-reports-20160714-gq66yq.html

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Honky on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:30am
Fair dinkum, another one.

It seems overlaying ones profile pic with a French flag doesn't stop these things happening.  No guns, no bombs to blame it on - will the left suggest banning trucks now? 

Edit:  My bad, he did start shooting.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by cods on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:31am
horrible horrible horrible..

it does look ominous  a very special holiday and all..

so sorry to read this. its one bloody catastrophe  after another..

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:41am

... wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:30am:
Fair dinkum, another one.

It seems overlaying ones profile pic with a French flag doesn't stop these things happening.  No guns, no bombs to blame it on - will the left suggest banning trucks now? 


I know a guy who is retired NSW SPG and this is one of their worst  nightmares. There will be copycats.
Bollard companies will be making some good earnings. 




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:47am

... wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:30am:
Fair dinkum, another one.

It seems overlaying ones profile pic with a French flag doesn't stop these things happening.  No guns, no bombs to blame it on - will the left suggest banning trucks now? 

Edit:  My bad, he did start shooting.


Those bloody Presbyterians are at it again. ::)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:49am
The UK Daily Mail.


link

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by mothra on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:53am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:49am:
The UK Daily Mail.


link





Yes the Daily Mail. That's what we need now.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:54am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:49am:
The UK Daily Mail.


link


It's breaking news all over the mass media.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Quantum on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:58am

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:53am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:49am:
The UK Daily Mail.


link





Yes the Daily Mail. That's what we need now.


Take your smug snobbish lefty BS elsewhere. People are looking for information and the mail happens to have some. WTF!

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by mothra on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:00am

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:58am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:53am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:49am:
The UK Daily Mail.


link





Yes the Daily Mail. That's what we need now.


Take your smug snobbish lefty BS elsewhere. People are looking for information and the mail happens to have some. WTF!




I'll wait for less inflammatory sources.

I'm watching ABC news breakfast at the moment.

They stull haven't called it.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Honky on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:06am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:54am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:49am:
The UK Daily Mail.


link


It's breaking news all over the mass media.


And rightly so!  They're saying at least 50 people dead! 

Far out, I hate waking up to reports of yet another attack, but what I hate almost as much is the wilful blindness, the facetiousness and the obfuscation, that ensures these sorts of things are going to keep happening. 

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:07am

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:58am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:53am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:49am:
The UK Daily Mail.


link





Yes the Daily Mail. That's what we need now.


Take your smug snobbish lefty BS elsewhere. People are looking for information and the mail happens to have some. WTF!


Please just ignore the troll. It was up trolling away on OzPol at 3am.

Post over it. It will eventually go away.


Ok...let's get back to the mass media.

In breaking news :

73 people are confirmed dead at this stage. The body count is growing.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Baronvonrort on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:08am

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:00am:
I'll wait for less inflammatory sources.


The Inspire magazine by al Qaeda have been calling for attacks just like this one, The Dabiq magazine from the Islamic state have also called for attacks just like this one.

You can download those magazines online, the Boston bombers used the Inspire magazine for instructions on how to make pressure cooker bombs.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:11am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:47am:

... wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:30am:
Fair dinkum, another one.

It seems overlaying ones profile pic with a French flag doesn't stop these things happening.  No guns, no bombs to blame it on - will the left suggest banning trucks now? 

Edit:  My bad, he did start shooting.


Those bloody Presbyterians are at it again. ::)


Quakers?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Baronvonrort on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:20am
The Islamic state have claimed responsibility for this attack.

I wonder what the Iranian ex muslim journalist Rita Panahi says about this attack, will the leftards dismiss her as an Islamophobe.

twitter.com/RitaPanahi

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:22am

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:00am:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:58am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:53am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:49am:
The UK Daily Mail.


link





Yes the Daily Mail. That's what we need now.


Take your smug snobbish lefty BS elsewhere. People are looking for information and the mail happens to have some. WTF!




I'll wait for less inflammatory sources.

I'm watching ABC news breakfast at the moment.

They stull haven't called it.


A more apologetic source?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by issuevoter on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:53am
Get ready for the cliches and platitudes from world leaders, who will do nothing about the root cause of this problem. Every time we do not hit back, Muzlims are emboldened.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:54am
The Mussies need to be rounded up.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:54am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:20am:
The Islamic state have claimed responsibility for this attack.

I wonder what the Iranian ex muslim journalist Rita Panahi says about this attack, will the leftards dismiss her as an Islamophobe.

twitter.com/RitaPanahi



No I just dismiss her as an idiot

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:56am

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:22am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:00am:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:58am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:53am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:49am:
The UK Daily Mail.


link





Yes the Daily Mail. That's what we need now.


Take your smug snobbish lefty BS elsewhere. People are looking for information and the mail happens to have some. WTF!




I'll wait for less inflammatory sources.

I'm watching ABC news breakfast at the moment.

They stull haven't called it.


A more apologetic source?


More apoplectic you mean?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Baronvonrort on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:58am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:54am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:20am:
The Islamic state have claimed responsibility for this attack.

I wonder what the Iranian ex muslim journalist Rita Panahi says about this attack, will the leftards dismiss her as an Islamophobe.

twitter.com/RitaPanahi



No I just dismiss her as an idiot


We just dismiss you as an apologist Mr Bumcrack Noseman.  ;D

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:59am

issuevoter wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:53am:
Get ready for the cliches and platitudes from world leaders, who will do nothing about the root cause of this problem.

Every time we do not hit back, Muzlims are emboldened.


Hubby reckons this constant vicious and deadly baiting by ISIS isn't going to continue for much longer. An almighty retaliation is around the corner.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by issuevoter on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:01am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:59am:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:53am:
Get ready for the cliches and platitudes from world leaders, who will do nothing about the root cause of this problem. Every time we do not hit back, Muzlims are emboldened.


Hubby reckons this constant vicious and deadly baiting by ISIS isn't going to continue for much more. An almighty retaliation is around the corner.


They said that after 911, and all we got was a muddying of the case against Islam, by those with vested interests in the M.E.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:02am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:58am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:54am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:20am:
The Islamic state have claimed responsibility for this attack.

I wonder what the Iranian ex muslim journalist Rita Panahi says about this attack, will the leftards dismiss her as an Islamophobe.

twitter.com/RitaPanahi



No I just dismiss her as an idiot


We just dismiss you as an apologist Mr Bumcrack Noseman.  ;D




Yes, dismiss me as an apologist even though I've never said this attack was warranted I don't defend the people who conduct these attacks, I just don't believe an entire population on the actions of a small percentage.


If that makes me an apologist, so be it. I'm an apologist. It also makes me a Christian apologist, because I don't believe all Christians are paedophiles. It also makes me an Irish apologist, becuase not all the Irish are terrorists, it makes me a Basque apologist, because not all the Basque country can be represented by ETA, it makes me a police apologist, because not all the police are like the ones who shoot unarmed youth.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:02am

issuevoter wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:53am:
Get ready for the cliches and platitudes from world leaders, who will do nothing about the root cause of this problem. Every time we do not hit back, Muzlims are emboldened.


#illtruckwithyou

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:06am
http://www.francetvinfo.fr/france/14-juillet/un-vehicule-fonce-dans-la-foule-a-nice-faisant-plusieurs-victimes-la-prefecture-evoque-un-attentat-suivez-notre-direct_1547145.html

DIRECT. Attaque au camion à Nice : un nouveau bilan fait état d'au moins 70 morts
La section antiterroriste du parquet de Paris s'est saisie de l'enquête. Le chauffeur du camion a été abattu.


Un camion a foncé dans la foule sur la promenade des Anglais à Nice (Alpes-Maritimes), jeudi 14 juillet. Un nouveau bilan du parquet fait était d'au moins 70 morts. La section antiterroriste du parquet de Paris s'est saisie de l'enquête. Le chauffeur du camion a été "abattu". La préfecture des Alpes-Maritimes demande aux habitants de rester cloîtrés chez eux.

Un "bilan extrêmement lourd". Le parquet de Nice évoque au moins soixante morts. Un peu plus tôt, le sous-préfet Sébastien Humbert a aussi parlé d'une "centaine de blessés". Un bilan "extrêmement lourd" du fait que le camion a roulé sur une distance de 2 km sur la promenade des Anglais. Le plan Orsec a été déclenché.

Le chauffeur du camion "abattu". Selon les informations de France 2,  il n'y a pas eu d'échanges de tirs avec la police. Seules les forces de l'ordre ont tiré sur le poids-lourd, dont la vitre avant est criblée de balles. Selon le ministère de l'Intérieur, il n'est pas question d'une prise d'otages dans la ville. Mais "des investigations sont menées à l'heure actuelle pour savoir si l'individu a agi seul ou s'il a bénéficié de complices qui auraient pris la fuite", a précisé son porte-parole.

Le ministre de l'Intérieur se rend sur place. La préfecture des Alpes-Maritimes demande aux habitants de la ville de rester cloîtrés chez eux et d'viter de circuler dans le centre-ville. François Hollande a quitté Avignon pour se rendre à la cellule de crise de la place Beauvau, où le Premier ministre Manuel Valls le rejoint. Le ministre de l'Intérieur Bernard Cazeneuve se rend à Nice.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by mothra on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:08am

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:22am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:00am:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:58am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:53am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:49am:
The UK Daily Mail.


link





Yes the Daily Mail. That's what we need now.


Take your smug snobbish lefty BS elsewhere. People are looking for information and the mail happens to have some. WTF!




I'll wait for less inflammatory sources.

I'm watching ABC news breakfast at the moment.

They stull haven't called it.


A more apologetic source?




You have a better source? BBC aren't calling it. How come you are?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:12am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:06am:
http://www.francetvinfo.fr/france/14-juillet/un-vehicule-fonce-dans-la-foule-a-nice-faisant-plusieurs-victimes-la-prefecture-evoque-un-attentat-suivez-notre-direct_1547145.html

DIRECT. Attaque au camion à Nice : un nouveau bilan fait état d'au moins 70 morts
La section antiterroriste du parquet de Paris s'est saisie de l'enquête. Le chauffeur du camion a été abattu.


Un camion a foncé dans la foule sur la promenade des Anglais à Nice (Alpes-Maritimes), jeudi 14 juillet. Un nouveau bilan du parquet fait était d'au moins 70 morts. La section antiterroriste du parquet de Paris s'est saisie de l'enquête. Le chauffeur du camion a été "abattu". La préfecture des Alpes-Maritimes demande aux habitants de rester cloîtrés chez eux.

Un "bilan extrêmement lourd". Le parquet de Nice évoque au moins soixante morts. Un peu plus tôt, le sous-préfet Sébastien Humbert a aussi parlé d'une "centaine de blessés". Un bilan "extrêmement lourd" du fait que le camion a roulé sur une distance de 2 km sur la promenade des Anglais. Le plan Orsec a été déclenché.

Le chauffeur du camion "abattu". Selon les informations de France 2,  il n'y a pas eu d'échanges de tirs avec la police. Seules les forces de l'ordre ont tiré sur le poids-lourd, dont la vitre avant est criblée de balles. Selon le ministère de l'Intérieur, il n'est pas question d'une prise d'otages dans la ville. Mais "des investigations sont menées à l'heure actuelle pour savoir si l'individu a agi seul ou s'il a bénéficié de complices qui auraient pris la fuite", a précisé son porte-parole.

Le ministre de l'Intérieur se rend sur place. La préfecture des Alpes-Maritimes demande aux habitants de la ville de rester cloîtrés chez eux et d'viter de circuler dans le centre-ville. François Hollande a quitté Avignon pour se rendre à la cellule de crise de la place Beauvau, où le Premier ministre Manuel Valls le rejoint. Le ministre de l'Intérieur Bernard Cazeneuve se rend à Nice.


The death toll is higher than that Bobby.

Barak Obama, our GG and PM have just released press statements.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:14am

issuevoter wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:01am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:59am:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:53am:
Get ready for the cliches and platitudes from world leaders, who will do nothing about the root cause of this problem. Every time we do not hit back, Muzlims are emboldened.


Hubby reckons this constant vicious and deadly baiting by ISIS isn't going to continue for much more. An almighty retaliation is around the corner.


They said that after 911, and all we got was a muddying of the case against Islam, by those with vested interests in the M.E.


You're not wrong!

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:17am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:12am:
The death toll is higher than that Bobby.

Barak Obama, our GG and PM have just released press statements.



Yes Lisa,
It's changing by the minute as people die in hospital.
There are 45 people critically injured in hospital &
many more bodies as yet uncounted.

What a disaster!

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:17am

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:08am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:22am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:00am:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:58am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:53am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:49am:
The UK Daily Mail.


link





Yes the Daily Mail. That's what we need now.


Take your smug snobbish lefty BS elsewhere. People are looking for information and the mail happens to have some. WTF!




I'll wait for less inflammatory sources.

I'm watching ABC news breakfast at the moment.

They stull haven't called it.


A more apologetic source?




You have a better source? BBC aren't calling it. How come you are?


I know you're begging and praying that it's not your chosen ones. The perp has not been identified yet but it's pretty safe to assume how this will play out.

Local politician Christian Estrosi said the truck was loaded with arms and grenades.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-15/nice-truck-attack-up-to-60-dead/7631392

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:21am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:17am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:12am:
The death toll is higher than that Bobby.

Barak Obama, our GG and PM have just released press statements.



Yes Lisa,
It's changing by the minute as people die in hospital.
There are 45 people critically injured in hospital &
many more bodies as yet uncounted.

What a disaster!


French and UK leaders have released press statements now.

What a bloody nightmare!

8 months since the last attack by ISIS.

75 confirmed dead now.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:22am
Some Foreign Affairs clown interviewed on ABC 24 said: "We just has to live with these attacks"


It'll be a good day when Trump is elected as President


We now need strong leaders to put an end to the Globalist Humanist idiocy

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by mothra on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:23am

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:17am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:08am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:22am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:00am:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:58am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:53am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:49am:
The UK Daily Mail.


link





Yes the Daily Mail. That's what we need now.


Take your smug snobbish lefty BS elsewhere. People are looking for information and the mail happens to have some. WTF!




I'll wait for less inflammatory sources.

I'm watching ABC news breakfast at the moment.

They stull haven't called it.


A more apologetic source?




You have a better source? BBC aren't calling it. How come you are?


I know you're begging and praying that it's not your chosen ones. The perp has not been identified yet but it's pretty safe to assume how this will play out.

Local politician Christian Estrosi said the truck was loaded with arms and grenades.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-15/nice-truck-attack-up-to-60-dead/7631392



However it plays out, you made the claim that IS had taken responsibility.

That was a lie.

Why lie, Gordy?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by mothra on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:24am

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:22am:
Some Foreign Affairs clown interviewed on ABC 24 said: "We just has to live with these attacks"


It'll be a good day when Trump is elected as President


We now need strong leaders to put an end to the Globalist Humanist idiocy




You think Trump will make things better?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by matty on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:24am
Are they sure yet that is Islam? Couldn't it just as likely be another religion? Rememebr the left keep saying that there is good and bad in all religions, and also that Islam is the religion of peace?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:25am

"A man who witnessed the attack told CNN he saw the driver accelerate and aim for people as the vehicle slammed the crowd. The truck continued about two kilometres through the city’s busy main drag mowing down people in its path.

"The driver then emerged from the truck and opened fire on the crowd, another eyewitness said. French media is now reporting the gunman got back in the driver’s seat and travelled to another populated area before starting to shoot again."


What a sick bastard, and a sickening attack.




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:26am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:21am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:17am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:12am:
The death toll is higher than that Bobby.

Barak Obama, our GG and PM have just released press statements.



Yes Lisa,
It's changing by the minute as people die in hospital.
There are 45 people critically injured in hospital &
many more bodies as yet uncounted.

What a disaster!


French and UK leaders have released press statements now.

What a bloody nightmare!

8 months since the last attack by ISIS.

75 confirmed dead now.




And we all thought that under the state of emergency in France
that the terrorists were rounded up & in jail.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:26am

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:23am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:17am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:08am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:22am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:00am:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:58am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:53am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:49am:
The UK Daily Mail.


link





Yes the Daily Mail. That's what we need now.


Take your smug snobbish lefty BS elsewhere. People are looking for information and the mail happens to have some. WTF!




I'll wait for less inflammatory sources.

I'm watching ABC news breakfast at the moment.

They stull haven't called it.


A more apologetic source?




You have a better source? BBC aren't calling it. How come you are?


I know you're begging and praying that it's not your chosen ones. The perp has not been identified yet but it's pretty safe to assume how this will play out.

Local politician Christian Estrosi said the truck was loaded with arms and grenades.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-15/nice-truck-attack-up-to-60-dead/7631392



However it plays out, you made the claim that IS had taken responsibility.

That was a lie.

Why lie, Gordy?


Show me where I've typed IS, Islamic State or any other name they're known by in this thread.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:26am

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:22am:
Some Foreign Affairs clown interviewed on ABC 24 said: "We just has to live with these attacks"


It'll be a good day when Trump is elected as President


We now need strong leaders to put an end to the Globalist Humanist idiocy


Well everyone has had enough of ISIS.

Their constant deadly attacks/baiting has gone too far to just sit back and accept.

This tragic event will no doubt be to Trump's advantage.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:27am

matty wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:24am:
Are they sure yet that is Islam? Couldn't it just as likely be another religion? Rememebr the left keep saying that there is good and bad in all religions, and also that Islam is the religion of peace?



Something that makes sense given the scant details so far.


So who are you and what have you done with the real Matty.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:30am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:26am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:22am:
Some Foreign Affairs clown interviewed on ABC 24 said: "We just has to live with these attacks"


It'll be a good day when Trump is elected as President


We now need strong leaders to put an end to the Globalist Humanist idiocy


Well everyone has had enough of ISIS.

Their constant deadly attacks/baiting has gone too far to just sit back and accept.

This tragic event will no doubt be to Trump's advantage.


Indeed.

Can we expect something similar just before November?

I certainly hope not.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:31am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:26am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:21am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:17am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:12am:
The death toll is higher than that Bobby.

Barak Obama, our GG and PM have just released press statements.



Yes Lisa,
It's changing by the minute as people die in hospital.
There are 45 people critically injured in hospital &
many more bodies as yet uncounted.

What a disaster!


French and UK leaders have released press statements now.

What a bloody nightmare!

8 months since the last attack by ISIS.

75 confirmed dead now.




And we all thought that under the state of emergency in France
that the terrorists were rounded up & in jail.


The 15 metre truck was travelling into crowds of people at approx 55km/hr, mowing people down deliberately as it zig zagged into them.

France was supposed to be on high alert.

Oh and in breaking news, the death toll has just risen to 77.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:34am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:30am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:26am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:22am:
Some Foreign Affairs clown interviewed on ABC 24 said: "We just has to live with these attacks"


It'll be a good day when Trump is elected as President


We now need strong leaders to put an end to the Globalist Humanist idiocy


Well everyone has had enough of ISIS.

Their constant deadly attacks/baiting has gone too far to just sit back and accept.

This tragic event will no doubt be to Trump's advantage.


Indeed.

Can we expect something similar just before November?

I certainly hope not.


Please tell me you are not seriously suggesting that the U.S was behind this attack.

::)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The Mechanic on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:39am
I know our government is not going to be that good over then next few years d ue to the dog's Breakfast of a senate... but thank God that the Labor / Green  coalition didn't get in... Thank God..

And thanks to Tony Abbott  who got back control of our Australian borders...

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by cods on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:42am

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:26am:
Show me where I've typed IS, Islamic State or any other name they're known by in this thread.



you are correct gordon....those who throw stones shouldnt live in glass houses as the saying goes..

this is another terrible crime in France.. why France I do not understand.. but there it is....one wonders how this can happen in these days of HIGH ALERT what has happened to security in this country....no warning no warnings at all....isnt that strange??....

this is extreme violence.. why did it go on so long???.. if the reports are true...this driver had so much time to do so much damage.....it doesnt make sense.........if ever a time meant everyone being on full alert.....and yet they werent???......

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Black Orchid on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:43am

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:23am:
However it plays out, you made the claim that IS had taken responsibility.

That was a lie.

Why lie, Gordy?


Not once in this thread have you voiced the opinion that this attack is yet another  shocking blow for France.

Not once.

Sitting ready to defend the usual suspects every one of your posts has been solely to
criticise posters or sources.

That's what I find sad.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by cods on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:44am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:39am:
I know our government is not going to be that good over then next few years d ue to the dog's Breakfast of a senate... but thank God that the Labor / Green  coalition didn't get in... Thank God..

And thanks to Tony Abbott  who got back control of our Australian borders...




what makes you think this driver of said truck isnt a Frenchman????? >:( >:( >:(

sorry mechanic....you seem to be saying we can rest on our laurels..............if only!

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:45am
How before ISIS are blamed for what happened to Froome and Porte in the TdF

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by cods on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:48am

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:43am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:23am:
However it plays out, you made the claim that IS had taken responsibility.

That was a lie.

Why lie, Gordy?


Not once in this thread have you voiced the opinion that this attack is a shocking thing.

Not once.

Sitting ready to defend the usual suspects every one of your posts has been solely to
criticise posters or sources.

That's what I find sad.



thanks BO I couldnt find the words to say to mothra....but thats it exactly....is she saying if it comes from any source other than the ABC its made up????....because thats the impression I got...... ::) ::)

lets all watch the ABC as their cameras tell a whole different story.. :D :D



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:54am

cods wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:42am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:26am:
Show me where I've typed IS, Islamic State or any other name they're known by in this thread.


....one wonders how this can happen in these days of HIGH ALERT what has happened to security in this country....no warning no warnings at all....isnt that strange??....

this is extreme violence.. why did it go on so long???.. if the reports are true...this driver had so much time to do so much damage.....it doesnt make sense.........if ever a time meant everyone being on full alert.....and yet they werent???......


It surprises me too.

Surely areas like that would have been closed off with bollards to prevent traffic from entering.



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:58am

cods wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:42am:
this is another terrible crime in France.. why France I do not understand.. but there it is....one wonders how this can happen in these days of HIGH ALERT what has happened to security in this country....no warning no warnings at all....isnt that strange??....



The official "High Alert" ran out after the last attack and wasn't renewed, hence more relaxed security on this occasion

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:01am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:54am:

cods wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:42am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:26am:
Show me where I've typed IS, Islamic State or any other name they're known by in this thread.


....one wonders how this can happen in these days of HIGH ALERT what has happened to security in this country....no warning no warnings at all....isnt that strange??....

this is extreme violence.. why did it go on so long???.. if the reports are true...this driver had so much time to do so much damage.....it doesnt make sense.........if ever a time meant everyone being on full alert.....and yet they werent???......


It surprises me too.

Surely areas like that would have been closed off with bollards to prevent traffic from entering.



As I mentioned before I've had this chat with a NSW SPG cop. They'd bollard every square meter of Australia if they could. Expect copycats :(

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by matty on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:04am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:27am:

matty wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:24am:
Are they sure yet that is Islam? Couldn't it just as likely be another religion? Rememebr the left keep saying that there is good and bad in all religions, and also that Islam is the religion of peace?



Something that makes sense given the scant details so far.


So who are you and what have you done with the real Matty.


Just highlighting the wilful deftness and ignorance of the left-wing apologists for Islam. Let's all criticise Catholicism for having a few peadophie priests but ignore Islam and their almost weekly mass murders.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by matty on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:04am
It turns out that this was actually Islam. Who would have thought??

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Quantum on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:08am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:34am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:30am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:26am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:22am:
Some Foreign Affairs clown interviewed on ABC 24 said: "We just has to live with these attacks"


It'll be a good day when Trump is elected as President


We now need strong leaders to put an end to the Globalist Humanist idiocy


Well everyone has had enough of ISIS.

Their constant deadly attacks/baiting has gone too far to just sit back and accept.

This tragic event will no doubt be to Trump's advantage.


Indeed.

Can we expect something similar just before November?

I certainly hope not.


Please tell me you are not seriously suggesting that the U.S was behind this attack.

::)


Note also that he hopes another one of these events doesn't happen... because it may help trump get elected :o. Not that it will result in people hurt, traumatised, and even killed, but because it may help trump.

Same messed up attitude that hopes that tragedies like this are not done by Muslims because it will feed islamophobia. Screw the victims, let just worry about what impact it may have on lefty ideals.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:10am

matty wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:04am:
It turns out that this was actually Islam. Who would have thought??


Islam can't drive a truck.

It was actually a murdering individual.

No surprise that people like you are already starting to shift the blame away from him, though.

You rightards do it every single time.

Excuses, excuses.




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:12am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:10am:

matty wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:04am:
It turns out that this was actually Islam. Who would have thought??


Islam can't drive a truck.

It was actually a murdering individual.

No surprise that people like you are already starting to shift the blame away from him, though.

You rightards do it every single time.

Excuses, excuses.




It didn't take long for the limp wristed apologist to turn up.

I blame Islam!

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:12am

Quote:
However it plays out, you made the claim that IS had taken responsibility.

That was a lie.

Why lie, Gordy?


It was Baron Rort at reply # 14.

Nice to see BO lecturing you yet again Mothra, but not one word of comment that pretty much all another poster here was interested in was the increasing body count. 

Schitty, terrible stuff, and if it is ISIS/Islam related, a bloody good step in the right direction would be a 'West' exist from the ME.  I am not apologising for this act, but....if we are waging a 'War on Terror,'  I am not surprised that 'terror' fights back.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by matty on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:13am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:10am:

matty wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:04am:
It turns out that this was actually Islam. Who would have thought??


Islam can't drive a truck.

It was actually a murdering individual.

No surprise that people like you are already starting to shift the blame away from him, though.

You rightards do it every single time.

Excuses, excuses.


I'm not wasting my time dealing with a Muslim apologist.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:17am

matty wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:13am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:10am:

matty wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:04am:
It turns out that this was actually Islam. Who would have thought??


Islam can't drive a truck.

It was actually a murdering individual.

No surprise that people like you are already starting to shift the blame away from him, though.

You rightards do it every single time.

Excuses, excuses.


I'm not wasting my time dealing with a Muslim apologist.


I'm making no excuses for the murderer.

You are.

I condemn him and his actions unconditionally.

Apologist.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:17am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:10am:

matty wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:04am:
It turns out that this was actually Islam. Who would have thought??


Islam can't drive a truck.

It was actually a murdering individual.

No surprise that people like you are already starting to shift the blame away from him, though.

You rightards do it every single time.

Excuses, excuses.




It didn't take long for the limp wristed apologist to turn up.

I blame Islam!


Apologist!

I blame the killer.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Honky on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:19am

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Quantum on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:22am

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:12am:

Quote:
However it plays out, you made the claim that IS had taken responsibility.

That was a lie.

Why lie, Gordy?


It was Baron Rort at reply # 14.

Nice to see BO lecturing you yet again Mothra, but not one word of comment that pretty much all another poster here was interested in was the increasing body count. 

Schitty, terrible stuff, and if it is ISIS/Islam related, a bloody good step in the right direction would be a 'West' exist from the ME.  I am not apologising for this act, but....if we are waging a 'War on Terror,'  I am not surprised that 'terror' fights back.


Exactly! If the French never invaded Iraq this never would've happened.

The US warned the French that this would be the consequences on getting involved in the Arab world. I still remember George Bush begging them not rage war in the Middle East but the frogs just wouldn't listen. American restaurants even changed "french fries" to "freedom fries" in support of Iraqi independence from the evil French invasion, but it did nothing!

The French only have themselves to blame after everything they have done in the Middle East... ::)




PS

If Arabia is only for Arabs, is the south of France only for Arabs as well?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:27am
I see the sarcasm:


Quote:
The French only have themselves to blame after everything they have done in the Middle East...


But....you are quite correct.  French missiles/bombs have been dropped onto Arabs in Arabia.    It is weird isn't it, that Arabs are a tad pissed orf about that.  I know that if it was me getting the schit bombed out of me, I'd be out there rejoicing in the streets playing catch me if you can with the bombs and bullets.

You?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Honky on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:32am

I wouldn't have gone to Iraq or afghanistan either, but what's done is done.  Sacrificing men, women, children, culture and ancestral homelands will not undo it.  So what's the plan aussie?  How many more need to die before you'd start protecting them?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34am

matty wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:04am:
It turns out that this was actually Islam. Who would have thought??



It is because the french are seen to be weak, who will always make excuses for the attacks and the attackers.


France's need to surrender is not just a joke told by the western alliances, it is their attitude and ultimately it will be their destruction.

Every time one of these scumbags you let into the country goes on to kill one of your countrymen, that is on you, not them.  >:(


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by issuevoter on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:39am
D.W.I. Driving while under the influence of Islam.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:39am
Truck driver was Nice resident of Tunisian decent

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by mothra on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:40am

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:12am:

Quote:
However it plays out, you made the claim that IS had taken responsibility.

That was a lie.

Why lie, Gordy?


It was Baron Rort at reply # 14.

Nice to see BO lecturing you yet again Mothra, but not one word of comment that pretty much all another poster here was interested in was the increasing body count. 

Schitty, terrible stuff, and if it is ISIS/Islam related, a bloody good step in the right direction would be a 'West' exist from the ME.  I am not apologising for this act, but....if we are waging a 'War on Terror,'  I am not surprised that 'terror' fights back.



Apologies Gordy. It was indeed Baron who first mentioned IS.

As for Black Orchid ... she doesn't like me very much and likes to let me know at as many junctures as she can.

It amuses me.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:41am

think of a beautiful country like France , as a beautiful field of rich pasture.

if you are idiotic enough to import some stinging nettles, they will seed and the weed problem becomes exponentially worse the longer you leave it.

you must attack the weeds with everything at your disposal and you should start yesterday.

it is a mathematical fact that each day, hour, second you delay, you simply make the task that much more onerous as the weeds do not stop until you take action.

how far can you drive the weeds back if you are diligent....beyond the horizon.

how far will they grow if you do not take action...they will grow up between your toes.

go as hard as you can, with as much resources as you can muster and go as early as you can  and this will produce the best result.

to think otherwise is just naive

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Honky on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:48am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:41am:
to think otherwise is just naive


Correct.  But if I had to describe modern leftism with one word, naïve would be right up there.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by issuevoter on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:48am
No doubt the forum appeasers of Islam will compare this to a drone strike in Afghanistan, and therefore excuse it. You really have to decide which side you are on.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:50am

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34am:
Every time one of these scumbags you let into the country goes on to kill one of your countrymen, that is on you, not them. 


Another apologist.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:52am

issuevoter wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:48am:
No doubt the forum appeasers of Islam will compare this to a drone strike in Afghanistan, and therefore excuse it. You really have to decide which side you are on.



Can't I be on the side of peace, and not bombing people or terrorist attacks?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Quantum on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:53am

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:27am:
I see the sarcasm:


Quote:
The French only have themselves to blame after everything they have done in the Middle East...


But....you are quite correct.  French missiles/bombs have been dropped onto Arabs in Arabia.    It is weird isn't it, that Arabs are a tad pissed orf about that.  I know that if it was me getting the schit bombed out of me, I'd be out there rejoicing in the streets playing catch me if you can with the bombs and bullets.

You?


The point is that the French stayed out or Iraq but that wasn't enough. Even not getting involved will get a fatwa called out on you.

What the hell is the western world supposed to do? Don't get involved and you get attacked. Get involved and you get attacked. Get involved in response to previously being attacked and you will get attacked again for having the hide to retaliate. It's a no win situation, because whilst you keep claiming that Arabia is only for Arabs, Arabs don't seem to mind making the rest of the world theirs as well.   

The sand monkeys and ape-fricans seem to have the incredible ability of seeing themselves as the victims of everything, as well as seeing themselves as entitled to everything as well. It's only a matter of time until the developed world really gets involved in the Middle East and North Africa and the rag-heads will never attack anyone again. One day these idiots will plow a truck through the streets of Moscow or Beijing and then the shlt (also known as Muslims) will really hit the fan.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:59am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:50am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34am:
Every time one of these scumbags you let into the country goes on to kill one of your countrymen, that is on you, not them. 


Another apologist.



I never apologise, which is why little spineless homos like yourself run off to have me banned when I make you cry.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Now go and pretend you're french, raise the white flag on behalf of all cowards.



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:00pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:50am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34am:
Every time one of these scumbags you let into the country goes on to kill one of your countrymen, that is on you, not them. 


Another apologist.



I never apologise, which is why little spineless homos like yourself run off to have me banned when I make you cry.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Now go and pretend you're french, raise the white flag on behalf of all cowards.


Blame shifter.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:01pm

... wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:32am:
I wouldn't have gone to Iraq or afghanistan either, but what's done is done.  Sacrificing men, women, children, culture and ancestral homelands will not undo it.  So what's the plan aussie?  How many more need to die before you'd start protecting them?


Announce immediately that the West will exit Arabia in say 12 months.  That'll give ample time to any one who wants to get out, and yeas, the West must reap what is sowed, by taking them in.

Then in 12 months time, GTFOOT!

Then, if there are acts of terrorism on our Lands, smack down those who did it and anyone in our Lands who aided them.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Quantum on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:05pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:01pm:

... wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:32am:
I wouldn't have gone to Iraq or afghanistan either, but what's done is done.  Sacrificing men, women, children, culture and ancestral homelands will not undo it.  So what's the plan aussie?  How many more need to die before you'd start protecting them?


Announce immediately that the West will exit Arabia in say 12 months.  That'll give ample time to any one who wants to get out, and yeas, the West must reap what is sowed, by taking them in.

Then in 12 months time, GTFOOT!

Then, if there are acts of terrorism on our Lands, smack down those who did it and anyone in our Lands who aided them.


And if they are not "in our lands" what then? Can the Arabs just sit on their dunes organising killings in the west with impunity? After all, we can't enter "their" lands to stop or punish them, so do we just have to suck it up and live with it?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:50am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34am:
Every time one of these scumbags you let into the country goes on to kill one of your countrymen, that is on you, not them. 


Another apologist.



I never apologise, which is why little spineless homos like yourself run off to have me banned when I make you cry.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Now go and pretend you're french, raise the white flag on behalf of all cowards.


Blame shifter.



No cowards like yourself are to blame, stop p1ssing yourself like an excited puppy ad make a friggen stand.

The cowards in france are to blame for what is happening to france; they, like you, are appeasers and unwilling to sort their country out.

The world needs less appeasers and cowards, lets hope the scumbags get them first, hey greg.  ;D ;D ;D ;D



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:10pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:50am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34am:
Every time one of these scumbags you let into the country goes on to kill one of your countrymen, that is on you, not them. 


Another apologist.



I never apologise, which is why little spineless homos like yourself run off to have me banned when I make you cry.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Now go and pretend you're french, raise the white flag on behalf of all cowards.


Blame shifter.



No cowards like yourself are to blame ...



au contraire

The murderer in the truck is to blame.

However, you (and many others in here) are hell-bent on shifting the blame to anyone/thing/where but him.

Astounding.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:12pm
We need the carrot and stick.

The carrot is live in our country and enjoy all of its benifits in peace and be one of us.

The stick. Conviction of terrorist act or plan will result in the terrorist and 100 family and friends being deported regardless of place of birth.

Time for the gloves to come off

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Fireball on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:14pm

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:23am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:17am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:08am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:22am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:00am:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:58am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:53am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:49am:
The UK Daily Mail.


link





Yes the Daily Mail. That's what we need now.


Take your smug snobbish lefty BS elsewhere. People are looking for information and the mail happens to have some. WTF!




I'll wait for less inflammatory sources.

I'm watching ABC news breakfast at the moment.

They stull haven't called it.


A more apologetic source?




You have a better source? BBC aren't calling it. How come you are?


I know you're begging and praying that it's not your chosen ones. The perp has not been identified yet but it's pretty safe to assume how this will play out.

Local politician Christian Estrosi said the truck was loaded with arms and grenades.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-15/nice-truck-attack-up-to-60-dead/7631392



However it plays out, you made the claim that IS had taken responsibility.

That was a lie.

Why lie, Gordy?


Why don't you shut the hell up! You marxist clown.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Baronvonrort on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:17pm

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:23am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:17am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:08am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:22am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:00am:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:58am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:53am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:49am:
The UK Daily Mail.


link





Yes the Daily Mail. That's what we need now.


Take your smug snobbish lefty BS elsewhere. People are looking for information and the mail happens to have some. WTF!




I'll wait for less inflammatory sources.

I'm watching ABC news breakfast at the moment.

They stull haven't called it.


A more apologetic source?




You have a better source? BBC aren't calling it. How come you are?


I know you're begging and praying that it's not your chosen ones. The perp has not been identified yet but it's pretty safe to assume how this will play out.

Local politician Christian Estrosi said the truck was loaded with arms and grenades.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-15/nice-truck-attack-up-to-60-dead/7631392



However it plays out, you made the claim that IS had taken responsibility.

That was a lie.


The Islamic state have claimed responsibility, your post proves being a leftist involves a type of mental retardation

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Baronvonrort on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:19pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:12pm:
We need the carrot and stick.

The carrot is live in our country and enjoy all of its benifits in peace and be one of us.

The stick. Conviction of terrorist act or plan will result in the terrorist and 100 family and friends being deported regardless of place of birth.

Time for the gloves to come off


This muslim was born in France.

The London bombers showed you don't need to import them when you can have home grown terrorists, the recipe is just add Islam.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:50am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34am:
Every time one of these scumbags you let into the country goes on to kill one of your countrymen, that is on you, not them. 


Another apologist.



I never apologise, which is why little spineless homos like yourself run off to have me banned when I make you cry.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Now go and pretend you're french, raise the white flag on behalf of all cowards.


Blame shifter.



No cowards like yourself are to blame ...



au contraire

The murderer in the truck is to blame.

However, you (and many others in here) are hell-bent on shifting the blame to anyone/thing/where but him.

Astounding.



You are as simplistic as the rest of your cowardly mates over in france, well done for your shallow intellect to be able to understand nothing  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mass murder does not occur in a vacuum, einstein. A consistent cowardly attitude to those who would do you harm facilitates more harm. If you want it to stop; get in and sort it out, don't stand there like a little b1tch making excuses.

No mater how many times you make the excuse they will not stop killing, it will continue until the euroeans grow a set; everyone hates a coward, don't they greggy?  :) :)


Maybe if you stood up for your self at school you wouldn't be the pathetic little man you are today, greg. Just sayin.  :) :)


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Squire on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:20pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:12pm:
We need the carrot and stick.

The carrot is live in our country and enjoy all of its benifits in peace and be one of us.

The stick. Conviction of terrorist act or plan will result in the terrorist and 100 family and friends being deported regardless of place of birth.

Time for the gloves to come off


You can only deport Australian born people if the target country accepts them. Even then the human rights issues are monstrous because even closet poms with foreign forebears many generations back would be at risk.

Imagine the squealing and blithering blather if Herbert and CODS were deported to UK.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:24pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:50am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34am:
Every time one of these scumbags you let into the country goes on to kill one of your countrymen, that is on you, not them. 


Another apologist.



I never apologise, which is why little spineless homos like yourself run off to have me banned when I make you cry.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Now go and pretend you're french, raise the white flag on behalf of all cowards.


Blame shifter.



No cowards like yourself are to blame ...



au contraire

The murderer in the truck is to blame.

However, you (and many others in here) are hell-bent on shifting the blame to anyone/thing/where but him.

Astounding.



You are as simplistic as the rest of your cowardly mates over in france, well done for your shallow intellect to be able to understand nothing  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mass murder does not occur in a vacuum, einstein. A consistent cowardly attitude to those who would do you harm facilitates more harm. If you want it to stop; get in a sort it out, don't stand there like a little b1tch making excuses.

No mater how many times you make the excuse they will not stop killing, it will continue until they grow a set; everyone hates a coward, don't they greggy?  :) :)


Maybe if you stood up for your self at school you would be the pathetic little man you are today, greg. Just sayin.  :) :)


Once again, you are quite confused.

I'm making no excuses for this murderer. Absolutely none.

Perhaps you could elaborate on this "excuse" lie.

The blame lies squarely at his feet, and I condemn him and his actions unreservedly.

You, on the other hand, are doing everything you can to shift the blame away from him.

You're a blame-shifting apologist. You should be quite ashamed of yourself.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Baronvonrort on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:29pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:01pm:

... wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:32am:
I wouldn't have gone to Iraq or afghanistan either, but what's done is done.  Sacrificing men, women, children, culture and ancestral homelands will not undo it.  So what's the plan aussie?  How many more need to die before you'd start protecting them?


Announce immediately that the West will exit Arabia in say 12 months.  That'll give ample time to any one who wants to get out, and yeas, the West must reap what is sowed, by taking them in.

Then in 12 months time, GTFOOT!

Then, if there are acts of terrorism on our Lands, smack down those who did it and anyone in our Lands who aided them.


This terrorist was born in France with a background from Tunisia

Tunisia is in Africa you dopey dim wit.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Honky on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:38pm
Might I humbly suggest not engaging greggery?

Be honest - we all knew he'd do this.  It is obvious after 44000 posts, that there is no depth so low that he won't go.  He has no qualms, no integrity, no mana.

Arguing will not achieve anything, except give him that smug sense of satisfaction that his actions are making people miserable, like him.  Where normal people see beauty, feel emotion and wish to preserve life and beauty, but as he is a nihilist through and through, he sees nothing but an opportunity to make others lives as dark as his own.  Do not give him the satisfaction.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:38pm
The FBI has defined crimes such as these as 'Group  cause ' crimes. Gangs, cults, terrorist groups are regarded differently than unaffiliated individuals who kill for whatever reason. This is because the head/s of that organisation are considered to be at least as responsible as the perpetrators.  What do we do when the head of the organisation is the prophet of Allah who has a dangerous  grip on the minds of a billion odd constituents?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:24pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:50am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34am:
Every time one of these scumbags you let into the country goes on to kill one of your countrymen, that is on you, not them. 


Another apologist.



I never apologise, which is why little spineless homos like yourself run off to have me banned when I make you cry.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Now go and pretend you're french, raise the white flag on behalf of all cowards.


Blame shifter.



No cowards like yourself are to blame ...



au contraire

The murderer in the truck is to blame.

However, you (and many others in here) are hell-bent on shifting the blame to anyone/thing/where but him.

Astounding.



You are as simplistic as the rest of your cowardly mates over in france, well done for your shallow intellect to be able to understand nothing  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mass murder does not occur in a vacuum, einstein. A consistent cowardly attitude to those who would do you harm facilitates more harm. If you want it to stop; get in a sort it out, don't stand there like a little b1tch making excuses.

No mater how many times you make the excuse they will not stop killing, it will continue until they grow a set; everyone hates a coward, don't they greggy?  :) :)


Maybe if you stood up for your self at school you would be the pathetic little man you are today, greg. Just sayin.  :) :)


Once again, you are quite confused.

I'm making no excuses for this murderer. Absolutely none.

Perhaps you could elaborate on this "excuse" lie.

The blame lies squarely at his feet, and I condemn him and his actions unreservedly.

You, on the other hand, are doing everything you can to shift the blame away from him.

You're a blame-shifting apologist. You should be quite ashamed of yourself.




I never apologise, pretty sure that is the first thing I said in my first post; are you incapable of retaining information for more than a few minutes.

You want everyone to ignore those others who partook in this and other attacks and only look at the singular perpetrator.

As far as you are concerned there is never anyone else involved.

There are no imams sowing the seeds of hate allowing for radicalisation of feeble minded muslims (all of them)

No groups of like minded muslims planing and financing attacks on the west

No enclaves of muslims aid and abetting terrorists organisations within their suburbs

No one purchasing and transporting weapons and training the attackers.



In your mind none of these people have anything to do with anything, just the driver, or the shooter or the suicide bomber; no-one else.


You are a coward and you hope that your cowardice will be rewarded once it is recognised by these people; it won't as everyone hates cowards, especially them.



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The Mechanic on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:45pm
once again the gweggy/mothra show defending the scum of the earth..

the Labor/Greens voters..

the dangerous scum who want these filthy rsoles to come to Australia by their millions..  >:(

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:46pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:24pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:50am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34am:
Every time one of these scumbags you let into the country goes on to kill one of your countrymen, that is on you, not them. 


Another apologist.



I never apologise, which is why little spineless homos like yourself run off to have me banned when I make you cry.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Now go and pretend you're french, raise the white flag on behalf of all cowards.


Blame shifter.



No cowards like yourself are to blame ...



au contraire

The murderer in the truck is to blame.

However, you (and many others in here) are hell-bent on shifting the blame to anyone/thing/where but him.

Astounding.



You are as simplistic as the rest of your cowardly mates over in france, well done for your shallow intellect to be able to understand nothing  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mass murder does not occur in a vacuum, einstein. A consistent cowardly attitude to those who would do you harm facilitates more harm. If you want it to stop; get in a sort it out, don't stand there like a little b1tch making excuses.

No mater how many times you make the excuse they will not stop killing, it will continue until they grow a set; everyone hates a coward, don't they greggy?  :) :)


Maybe if you stood up for your self at school you would be the pathetic little man you are today, greg. Just sayin.  :) :)


Once again, you are quite confused.

I'm making no excuses for this murderer. Absolutely none.

Perhaps you could elaborate on this "excuse" lie.

The blame lies squarely at his feet, and I condemn him and his actions unreservedly.

You, on the other hand, are doing everything you can to shift the blame away from him.

You're a blame-shifting apologist. You should be quite ashamed of yourself.




I never apologise, pretty sure that is the first thing I said in my first post.


And neither do I.

You like to shift the blame, though.

I don't.

I blame, and condemn, the murderer unreservedly.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:47pm

... wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:38pm:
Might I humbly suggest not engaging greggery?

Be honest - we all knew he'd do this.  It is obvious after 44000 posts, that there is no depth so low that he won't go.  He has no qualms, no integrity, no mana.

Arguing will not achieve anything, except give him that smug sense of satisfaction that his actions are making people miserable, like him.  Where normal people see beauty, feel emotion and wish to preserve life and beauty, but as he is a nihilist through and through, he sees nothing but an opportunity to make others lives as dark as his own.  Do not give him the satisfaction.



Just seeing how long before he runs off to have me banned because, I have once again, made him cry like a little b1tch.

Cowards are easily hurt, and rarely show any measure of fortitude. I feel a little sad for him at times, that is until I realise I despise cowards and Im good again.  :) :) :) :)



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by mothra on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:48pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:45pm:
once again the gweggy/mothra show defending the scum of the earth..

the Labor/Greens voters..

the dangerous scum who want these filthy rsoles to come to Australia by their millions..  >:(



Where have i, or Greg, defended anybody?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:46pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:43pm:
I never apologise, pretty sure that is the first thing I said in my first post.


And neither do I.

You like to shift the blame, though.

I don't.

I blame, and condemn, the murderer unreservedly.




I know I have won, once you resort to taking my post out of context and contriving a reply.  ;D ;D ;D ;D


It was quicker that usual, limpd1ck



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:53pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:45pm:
once again the gweggy/mothra show defending the scum of the earth..


We are defending nobody.

You really should pay attention, before going off half-cocked.

Greg:

"What a sick bastard, and a sickening attack."

"I condemn him and his actions unconditionally."

"I blame the killer."

"The murderer in the truck is to blame."

"The blame lies squarely at his feet, and I condemn him and his actions unreservedly."

"I blame, and condemn, the murderer unreservedly."


Do you have any idea how much of a fool you look at the moment?

Moreover, all you've done is attack forum members and Labor/Greens voters - no sign of condemnation of the killer whatsoever.

It's time you took a long hard look at yourself, boy.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:56pm

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:45pm:
once again the gweggy/mothra show defending the scum of the earth..

the Labor/Greens voters..

the dangerous scum who want these filthy rsoles to come to Australia by their millions..  >:(



Where have i, or Greg, defended anybody?


You always condemn the tip of the spear but you're unable to come to terms with what supports and incubates this.

If this happened once I'd accept it as an anomaly.  But it's happening over and over and over again. This means you have to without fear or favour examine were it's coming from.

We know why you won't ask the questions, it's  because you won't like the answer.

This makes you an apologist.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:58pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:56pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:45pm:
once again the gweggy/mothra show defending the scum of the earth..

the Labor/Greens voters..

the dangerous scum who want these filthy rsoles to come to Australia by their millions..  >:(



Where have i, or Greg, defended anybody?


You always condemn the tip of the spear but you're unable to come to terms with what supports and incubates this.

If this happened once I'd accept it as an anomaly.  But it's happening over and over and over again. This means you have to without fear or favour examine were it's coming from.


Murderers, Gordy.

It's coming from murderers.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by issuevoter on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:58pm
Everyone knows that it is only a matter of time before the Muzlims pull off a stunt like this in Australia.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:00pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:50pm:
I know I have won ..


"won"?

It's all about you "winning", is it?

You're trying your hardest to shift the blame for this attack away from the killer.

Nobody "wins" when you resort to pathetic acts like that, while at least 77 people lay dead.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:58pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:56pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:45pm:
once again the gweggy/mothra show defending the scum of the earth..

the Labor/Greens voters..

the dangerous scum who want these filthy rsoles to come to Australia by their millions..  >:(



Where have i, or Greg, defended anybody?


You always condemn the tip of the spear but you're unable to come to terms with what supports and incubates this.

If this happened once I'd accept it as an anomaly.  But it's happening over and over and over again. This means you have to without fear or favour examine were it's coming from.


Murderers, Gordy.

It's coming from murderers.



it's Islam.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:02pm
How long until the French elections?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:00pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:50pm:
I know I have won ..


"won"?

It's all about you "winning", is it?

You're trying your hardest to shift the blame for this attack away from the killer.

Nobody "wins" when you resort to pathetic acts like that, while at least 77 people lay dead.



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Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by mothra on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:16pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:56pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:45pm:
once again the gweggy/mothra show defending the scum of the earth..

the Labor/Greens voters..

the dangerous scum who want these filthy rsoles to come to Australia by their millions..  >:(



Where have i, or Greg, defended anybody?


You always condemn the tip of the spear but you're unable to come to terms with what supports and incubates this.

If this happened once I'd accept it as an anomaly.  But it's happening over and over and over again. This means you have to without fear or favour examine were it's coming from.

We know why you won't ask the questions, it's  because you won't like the answer.

This makes you an apologist.




Nope. I'm scathing of the entire thing. I know who is doing these terrible things and i am dismayed.

Thing is though, i don't blame Islam. I blame terrorists.

You lot go on and on about Islam like it's the defining factor. It isn't. Most Muslims do not do such things. We are dealing with particular groups of people that have political agendas beyond any religion and while they use religion to bring tremendous amounts of unhappiness, religion isn't their chief MO.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:26pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:39am:
I know our government is not going to be that good over then next few years d ue to the dog's Breakfast of a senate... but thank God that the Labor / Green  coalition didn't get in... Thank God..

And thanks to Tony Abbott  who got back control of our Australian borders...


Hear hear!

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:46pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:24pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:50am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34am:
Every time one of these scumbags you let into the country goes on to kill one of your countrymen, that is on you, not them. 


Another apologist.



I never apologise, which is why little spineless homos like yourself run off to have me banned when I make you cry.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Now go and pretend you're french, raise the white flag on behalf of all cowards.


Blame shifter.



No cowards like yourself are to blame ...



au contraire

The murderer in the truck is to blame.

However, you (and many others in here) are hell-bent on shifting the blame to anyone/thing/where but him.

Astounding.



You are as simplistic as the rest of your cowardly mates over in france, well done for your shallow intellect to be able to understand nothing  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mass murder does not occur in a vacuum, einstein. A consistent cowardly attitude to those who would do you harm facilitates more harm. If you want it to stop; get in a sort it out, don't stand there like a little b1tch making excuses.

No mater how many times you make the excuse they will not stop killing, it will continue until they grow a set; everyone hates a coward, don't they greggy?  :) :)


Maybe if you stood up for your self at school you would be the pathetic little man you are today, greg. Just sayin.  :) :)


Once again, you are quite confused.

I'm making no excuses for this murderer. Absolutely none.

Perhaps you could elaborate on this "excuse" lie.

The blame lies squarely at his feet, and I condemn him and his actions unreservedly.

You, on the other hand, are doing everything you can to shift the blame away from him.

You're a blame-shifting apologist. You should be quite ashamed of yourself.




I never apologise, pretty sure that is the first thing I said in my first post.


And neither do I.

You like to shift the blame, though.

I don't.

I blame, and condemn, the murderer unreservedly.


Ah, so, it's the work of ONE MURDERER.

That's it?

In your mind,  it's just the work of ONE INDIVIDUAL.

Yes?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:34pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:38pm:
The FBI has defined crimes such as these as 'Group  cause ' crimes. Gangs, cults, terrorist groups are regarded differently than unaffiliated individuals who kill for whatever reason.

This is because the head/s of that organisation are considered to be at least as responsible as the perpetrators. 

What do we do when the head of the organisation is the prophet of Allah who has a dangerous  grip on the minds of a billion odd constituents?


I'm afraid we cannot accept the findings of the FBI.

We can only accept the findings of our very own GPI.

I'll let you figure out what GPI stands for ;D

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:34pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:46pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:24pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:50am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34am:
Every time one of these scumbags you let into the country goes on to kill one of your countrymen, that is on you, not them. 


Another apologist.



I never apologise, which is why little spineless homos like yourself run off to have me banned when I make you cry.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Now go and pretend you're french, raise the white flag on behalf of all cowards.


Blame shifter.



No cowards like yourself are to blame ...



au contraire

The murderer in the truck is to blame.

However, you (and many others in here) are hell-bent on shifting the blame to anyone/thing/where but him.

Astounding.



You are as simplistic as the rest of your cowardly mates over in france, well done for your shallow intellect to be able to understand nothing  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mass murder does not occur in a vacuum, einstein. A consistent cowardly attitude to those who would do you harm facilitates more harm. If you want it to stop; get in a sort it out, don't stand there like a little b1tch making excuses.

No mater how many times you make the excuse they will not stop killing, it will continue until they grow a set; everyone hates a coward, don't they greggy?  :) :)


Maybe if you stood up for your self at school you would be the pathetic little man you are today, greg. Just sayin.  :) :)


Once again, you are quite confused.

I'm making no excuses for this murderer. Absolutely none.

Perhaps you could elaborate on this "excuse" lie.

The blame lies squarely at his feet, and I condemn him and his actions unreservedly.

You, on the other hand, are doing everything you can to shift the blame away from him.

You're a blame-shifting apologist. You should be quite ashamed of yourself.




I never apologise, pretty sure that is the first thing I said in my first post.


And neither do I.

You like to shift the blame, though.

I don't.

I blame, and condemn, the murderer unreservedly.


Ah, so, it's the work of ONE MURDERER.

That's it?

In your mind,  it's just the work of ONE INDIVIDUAL.

Yes?


A bit like only blaming the car salesman who sold a car with an engineering defect.  It fails the pub test.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:35pm
Ce que l'on sait de l'attaque au camion à Nice, qui a fait au moins 80 morts
"Un camion a foncé sur la foule sur une longue distance, ce qui explique ce bilan extrêmement lourd", a indiqué, dans la nuit de jeudi à vendredi, la préfecture des Alpes-Maritimes.



http://www.francetvinfo.fr/faits-divers/un-camion-fonce-dans-la-foule-a-nice-plusieurs-dizaines-de-morts-selon-la-prefecture_1547685.html

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:36pm

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:56pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:45pm:
once again the gweggy/mothra show defending the scum of the earth..

the Labor/Greens voters..

the dangerous scum who want these filthy rsoles to come to Australia by their millions..  >:(



Where have i, or Greg, defended anybody?


You always condemn the tip of the spear but you're unable to come to terms with what supports and incubates this.

If this happened once I'd accept it as an anomaly.  But it's happening over and over and over again. This means you have to without fear or favour examine were it's coming from.

We know why you won't ask the questions, it's  because you won't like the answer.

This makes you an apologist.




Nope. I'm scathing of the entire thing. I know who is doing these terrible things and i am dismayed.

Thing is though, i don't blame Islam. I blame terrorists.

You lot go on and on about Islam like it's the defining factor. It isn't. Most Muslims do not do such things. We are dealing with particular groups of people that have political agendas beyond any religion and while they use religion to bring tremendous amounts of unhappiness, religion isn't their chief MO.


i think it is possible to hold the "i dont blame islam" line, if and only if, every moderate muslim is france, heads directly yo the radical mosques and the radical immans and to the known areas of radicalisation and rounds up every radical muslim and takes vigilante action to "clean up their own nest".

this would provide a strong message that the moderate muslims appreciate the freedoms of the french state and will not tolerate the radicals hijacking their faith.



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:36pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:46pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:24pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:50am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34am:
Every time one of these scumbags you let into the country goes on to kill one of your countrymen, that is on you, not them. 


Another apologist.



I never apologise, which is why little spineless homos like yourself run off to have me banned when I make you cry.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Now go and pretend you're french, raise the white flag on behalf of all cowards.


Blame shifter.



No cowards like yourself are to blame ...



au contraire

The murderer in the truck is to blame.

However, you (and many others in here) are hell-bent on shifting the blame to anyone/thing/where but him.

Astounding.



You are as simplistic as the rest of your cowardly mates over in france, well done for your shallow intellect to be able to understand nothing  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mass murder does not occur in a vacuum, einstein. A consistent cowardly attitude to those who would do you harm facilitates more harm. If you want it to stop; get in a sort it out, don't stand there like a little b1tch making excuses.

No mater how many times you make the excuse they will not stop killing, it will continue until they grow a set; everyone hates a coward, don't they greggy?  :) :)


Maybe if you stood up for your self at school you would be the pathetic little man you are today, greg. Just sayin.  :) :)


Once again, you are quite confused.

I'm making no excuses for this murderer. Absolutely none.

Perhaps you could elaborate on this "excuse" lie.

The blame lies squarely at his feet, and I condemn him and his actions unreservedly.

You, on the other hand, are doing everything you can to shift the blame away from him.

You're a blame-shifting apologist. You should be quite ashamed of yourself.




I never apologise, pretty sure that is the first thing I said in my first post.


And neither do I.

You like to shift the blame, though.

I don't.

I blame, and condemn, the murderer unreservedly.


Ah, so, it's the work of ONE MURDERER.


All the reports I've seen and heard so far are saying exactly that.  Yes.

Have you heard something else?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:39pm

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:53am:
The point is that the French stayed out or Iraq but that wasn't enough. Even not getting involved will get a fatwa called out on you.

What the hell is the western world supposed to do? Don't get involved and you get attacked. Get involved and you get attacked. Get involved in response to previously being attacked and you will get attacked again for having the hide to retaliate. It's a no win situation, because whilst you keep claiming that Arabia is only for Arabs, Arabs don't seem to mind making the rest of the world theirs as well.

Bingo, you just nailed it. As long as the West is naive enough to engage in navel gazing -- "Gosh, if we just hadn't done _______, Islamic terrorists would never be attacking us today" -- we're buying into their victimhood routine.

Our leaders are too power-hungry to concede that the simplest answer to reducing terrorism on Western soil is to follow the example of the Hungarians, who refused to accept thousands of Muslim refugees from the Middle East.

As prime minister Viktor Orban wrote in a commentary for Frankfurt Allgemeine Zeitung, a German newspaper:

Quote:
“Those arriving have been raised in another religion, and represent a radically different culture. Most of them are not Christians, but Muslims. This is an important question, because Europe and European identity is rooted in Christianity.”


And you wonder why today's attack didn't happen in Hungary ...

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:39pm
Greggy - stop apologising for Islam.

There are at least 80 dead now.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:40pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:34pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:46pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:24pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:50am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34am:
Every time one of these scumbags you let into the country goes on to kill one of your countrymen, that is on you, not them. 


Another apologist.



I never apologise, which is why little spineless homos like yourself run off to have me banned when I make you cry.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Now go and pretend you're french, raise the white flag on behalf of all cowards.


Blame shifter.



No cowards like yourself are to blame ...



au contraire

The murderer in the truck is to blame.

However, you (and many others in here) are hell-bent on shifting the blame to anyone/thing/where but him.

Astounding.



You are as simplistic as the rest of your cowardly mates over in france, well done for your shallow intellect to be able to understand nothing  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mass murder does not occur in a vacuum, einstein. A consistent cowardly attitude to those who would do you harm facilitates more harm. If you want it to stop; get in a sort it out, don't stand there like a little b1tch making excuses.

No mater how many times you make the excuse they will not stop killing, it will continue until they grow a set; everyone hates a coward, don't they greggy?  :) :)


Maybe if you stood up for your self at school you would be the pathetic little man you are today, greg. Just sayin.  :) :)


Once again, you are quite confused.

I'm making no excuses for this murderer. Absolutely none.

Perhaps you could elaborate on this "excuse" lie.

The blame lies squarely at his feet, and I condemn him and his actions unreservedly.

You, on the other hand, are doing everything you can to shift the blame away from him.

You're a blame-shifting apologist. You should be quite ashamed of yourself.




I never apologise, pretty sure that is the first thing I said in my first post.


And neither do I.

You like to shift the blame, though.

I don't.

I blame, and condemn, the murderer unreservedly.


Ah, so, it's the work of ONE MURDERER.

That's it?

In your mind,  it's just the work of ONE INDIVIDUAL.

Yes?


A bit like only blaming the car salesman who sold a car with an engineering defect.  It fails the pub test.


No. Nothing like that.

It's blaming the guy who was seen driving the truck for the murders.

Feel free to join your friends in scrambling to shift the blame elsewhere, though.

You've done it before and I have no doubt you'll do it again.

Strange how none of you can condemn this murderer.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:41pm
Now comes time for Obama and other Western leaders to go on TV and strongly condemn "extremism."

For us average citizen types, it's time to post a sympathetic Facebook image that includes the colors of the French flag while pledging our solidarity with the French people. Feel free to use one of the images you put up after Charlie Hebdo or the Paris attack -- it's the surest way to prevent future Islamic terrorist strikes.

Then, after yet another solemn memorial service attended by a who's who of foreign dignitaries, Western nations will go back to welcoming the tens of thousands of anonymous Muslim refugees who want to enter our countries ... Trojan horse not included.

Watch and see how many of my predictions come true.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:43pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:41pm:
Now comes time for Obama and other Western leaders to go on TV and strongly condemn "extremism."

For us average citizen types, it's time to post a sympathetic Facebook image that includes the colors of the French flag while pledging our solidarity with the French people. Feel free to use one of the images you put up after Charlie Hebdo or the Paris attack -- it's the surest way to prevent future Islamic terrorist strikes.

Then, after yet another solemn memorial service attended by a who's who of foreign dignitaries, Western nations will go back to welcoming the tens of thousands of anonymous Muslim refugees who want to enter our countries ... Trojan horse not included.

Watch and see how many of my predictions come true.



Didn't Turnbull invite 12,000 Syrians here?

God help us.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:43pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:41pm:
Now comes time for Obama and other Western leaders to go on TV and strongly condemn "extremism."

For us average citizen types, it's time to post a sympathetic Facebook image that includes the colors of the French flag while pledging our solidarity with the French people. Feel free to use one of the images you put up after Charlie Hebdo or the Paris attack -- it's the surest way to prevent future Islamic terrorist strikes.

Then, after yet another solemn memorial service attended by a who's who of foreign dignitaries, Western nations will go back to welcoming the tens of thousands of anonymous Muslim refugees who want to enter our countries ... Trojan horse not included.

Watch and see how many of my predictions come true.


You're eliciting self-gratification from the deaths of dozens of innocent people.

Charming.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:44pm

Quote:
And you wonder why today's attack didn't happen in Hungary ...


Not me wondering why.  There are no Hungarian plane dropping Hungarian bombs on to Arabia making big rocks into little rocks, and babies into terrorists.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:45pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:43pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:41pm:
Now comes time for Obama and other Western leaders to go on TV and strongly condemn "extremism."

For us average citizen types, it's time to post a sympathetic Facebook image that includes the colors of the French flag while pledging our solidarity with the French people. Feel free to use one of the images you put up after Charlie Hebdo or the Paris attack -- it's the surest way to prevent future Islamic terrorist strikes.

Then, after yet another solemn memorial service attended by a who's who of foreign dignitaries, Western nations will go back to welcoming the tens of thousands of anonymous Muslim refugees who want to enter our countries ... Trojan horse not included.

Watch and see how many of my predictions come true.



Didn't Turnbull invite 12,000 Syrians here?

God help us.

You're not alone. Obama and Hillary think we need to import more of them into the U.S., even though Obama's own FBI Directors says we can't vet them.

Gee, isn't it hard to tell which U.S. president grew up studying the Qu'ran?

And which Democrat presidential candidate puts identity politics over the safety of her own nation?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:47pm
Bet Hollandaise sauce wish he didn't say this 12 hours ago.

President Francois Hollande used the last Bastille Day address of his mandate, less than a year before presidential polls, to paint himself as France's guardian through a time of joblessness and violence that he had brought under control.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0ZU1WK

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:48pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:43pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:41pm:
Now comes time for Obama and other Western leaders to go on TV and strongly condemn "extremism."

For us average citizen types, it's time to post a sympathetic Facebook image that includes the colors of the French flag while pledging our solidarity with the French people. Feel free to use one of the images you put up after Charlie Hebdo or the Paris attack -- it's the surest way to prevent future Islamic terrorist strikes.

Then, after yet another solemn memorial service attended by a who's who of foreign dignitaries, Western nations will go back to welcoming the tens of thousands of anonymous Muslim refugees who want to enter our countries ... Trojan horse not included.

Watch and see how many of my predictions come true.



Didn't Turnbull invite 12,000 Syrians here?

God help us.

You're not alone. Obama and Hillary think we need to import more of them into the U.S., even though Obama's own FBI Directors says we can't vet them.

Gee, isn't it hard to tell which U.S. president grew up studying the Qu'ran?

And which Democrat presidential candidate puts identity politics over the safety of her own nation?



Trump will get elected for sure now.

God help us.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:49pm

Quote:
Trump will get elected for sure now.


What is he going to do to stop idiots killing people?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:50pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:34pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:46pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:24pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:50am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34am:
Every time one of these scumbags you let into the country goes on to kill one of your countrymen, that is on you, not them. 


Another apologist.



I never apologise, which is why little spineless homos like yourself run off to have me banned when I make you cry.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Now go and pretend you're french, raise the white flag on behalf of all cowards.


Blame shifter.



No cowards like yourself are to blame ...



au contraire

The murderer in the truck is to blame.

However, you (and many others in here) are hell-bent on shifting the blame to anyone/thing/where but him.

Astounding.



You are as simplistic as the rest of your cowardly mates over in france, well done for your shallow intellect to be able to understand nothing  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mass murder does not occur in a vacuum, einstein. A consistent cowardly attitude to those who would do you harm facilitates more harm. If you want it to stop; get in a sort it out, don't stand there like a little b1tch making excuses.

No matter how many times you make the excuse they will not stop killing, it will continue until they grow a set; everyone hates a coward, don't they greggy?  :) :)


Maybe if you stood up for your self at school you would be the pathetic little man you are today, greg. Just sayin.  :) :)


Once again, you are quite confused.

I'm making no excuses for this murderer. Absolutely none.

Perhaps you could elaborate on this "excuse" lie.

The blame lies squarely at his feet, and I condemn him and his actions unreservedly.

You, on the other hand, are doing everything you can to shift the blame away from him.

You're a blame-shifting apologist. You should be quite ashamed of yourself.




I never apologise, pretty sure that is the first thing I said in my first post.


And neither do I.

You like to shift the blame, though.

I don't.

I blame, and condemn, the murderer unreservedly.


Ah, so, it's the work of ONE MURDERER.

That's it?

In your mind,  it's just the work of ONE INDIVIDUAL.

Yes?


A bit like only blaming the car salesman who sold a car with an engineering defect.  It fails the pub test.


It fails a hell of a lot more tests than just that.

Did you know that people suffering with borderline personality disorder issues compartmentalize reality in order to cope with the dreadful enormity of it?

Greg is doing just that. Look closely at how he's attempting to cope with/rationalize recurring terror events.

The reality of what is happening is just too much for him to cope with.

So he blurrs the parameters. There's nothing but a faceless murderer working alone here. An exception if you like...an anomaly even.

Meantime, in the real world, we're more than aware that we have a very REAL problem with an Islamic religious organization that's well organized in recruiting Muslim adherents to kill innocent men, women and children. In the name of Allah.

And that's the terrifying reality that Greg cannot face despite the fact that it's staring him right btwn his eyes.

I think we just need to take a step back and be patient with him.

He's clearly suffering from severe shock.




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:52pm
Dear Lisa,
it's limp wristed progressives like Greggy who have caused this -

they are weak against Islam.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:53pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:49pm:

Quote:
Trump will get elected for sure now.


What is he going to do to stop idiots killing people?



He's gunna round them up &
put them into FEMA camps &
maybe he'll even gas them just like Hitler did.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:55pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:53pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:49pm:

Quote:
Trump will get elected for sure now.


What is he going to do to stop idiots killing people?



He's gunna round them up &
put them into FEMA camps &
maybe he'll even gas them just like Hitler did.


"Them."  Who are they?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:55pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:50pm:
There's nothing but a faceless murderer working alone here.


"faceless"?

Jesus!

First you shift the blame away from him, and now you want to give him complete anonymity.

Why do you people invest so much time and energy into absolving these killers?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:56pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:53pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:49pm:

Quote:
Trump will get elected for sure now.


What is he going to do to stop idiots killing people?



He's gunna round them up &
put them into FEMA camps &
maybe he'll even gas them just like Hitler did.


"Them."  Who are they?



Islamic extremists

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:00pm


Weird.  There was a Report that some papers were found in the truck allegedly linking the driver/killer to Tunisia.  It would be absolute amateur hour if that killer had any genuine ID papers on him or in the truck.  And given the obvious intent to mow people down with the truck, what would be the point of the truck carrying a veritable arsenal in the back as alleged?  Y'ed reckon if he was part of some professional outfit, his mob would have a better use for said arsenal than having it sit useless in the of the truck.

Makes no sense to me, anyway.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:02pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:00pm:
Weird.  There was a Report that some papers were found in the truck allegedly linking the driver/killer to Tunisia.  It would be absolute amateur hour if that killer had any genuine ID papers on him or in the truck.  And given the obvious intent to mow people down with the truck, what would be the point of the truck carrying a veritable arsenal in the back as alleged?  Y'ed reckon if he was part of some professional outfit, his mob would have a better use for said arsenal than having it sit useless in the of the truck.

Makes no sense to me, anyway.



An expert on TV said the weapons were for a backup plan if the truck was stopped.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:02pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:48pm:
Trump will get elected for sure now.

God help us.

Anything beats Granny Pantsuit and her "extremely careless" approach to national security.

Like Obama, she can't bring herself to say "Islamic terrorism," so I'll take my chances with Donald J.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:04pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:47pm:
Bet Hollandaise sauce wish he didn't say this 12 hours ago.

President Francois Hollande used the last Bastille Day address of his mandate, less than a year before presidential polls, to paint himself as France's guardian through a time of joblessness and violence that he had brought under control.

Kind of like Obama calling ISIS the "JV team."

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:04pm

Quote:
Islamic extremists


Oh, them!  Do they have 'Islamic Terrorist' indelibly stamped on their forward for easy identification?

Same as idiot killer Cops I suppose.  And seriel killers and rapists etc.  Similarly branded, are they Bobby, so we can readily catch 'em before they go ape schit?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:04pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:48pm:
Trump will get elected for sure now.

God help us.

Anything beats Granny Pantsuit and her "extremely careless" approach to national security.

Like Obama, she can't bring herself to say "Islamic terrorism," so I'll take my chances with Donald J.



But Trump is gunna round them up &
put them into FEMA camps &
maybe he'll even gas them just like Hitler did.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:04pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:52pm:
Dear Lisa,
it's limp wristed progressives like Greggy who have caused this -

they are weak against Islam.


No...they ARE weak full stop.

This is why Greg is unable to cope with the enormity and totality of what's staring at him in the face.

He compartmentalizes the little bits that fit and can be coped by his little world.

Now watch him as he uploads a little section of my post. That little section is all his mindset can cope with.

The major section of my post has been compartmentalized by him into the too hard to cope with basket of his poor mind.

You gotta feel sorry for him.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:06pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:48pm:
Trump will get elected for sure now.

God help us.

Anything beats Granny Pantsuit and her "extremely careless" approach to national security.

Like Obama, she can't bring herself to say "Islamic terrorism," so I'll take my chances with Donald J.


Who do you think you are kidding Journalist Penguin.  While your arse points to the ground, you'll always back the extreme right wing of politics.  You related to Eric Abetz at all?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:06pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:04pm:

Quote:
Islamic extremists


Oh, them!  Do they have 'Islamic Terrorist' indelibly stamped on their forward for easy identification?

Same as idiot killer Cops I suppose.  And seriel killers and rapists etc.  Similarly branded, are they Bobby, so we can readily catch 'em before they go ape schit?




Well if  a few innocent ones are caught in the net?

All is fair in love & war.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:06pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:00pm:
Weird.  There was a Report that some papers were found in the truck allegedly linking the driver/killer to Tunisia.  It would be absolute amateur hour if that killer had any genuine ID papers on him or in the truck.  And given the obvious intent to mow people down with the truck, what would be the point of the truck carrying a veritable arsenal in the back as alleged?  Y'ed reckon if he was part of some professional outfit, his mob would have a better use for said arsenal than having it sit useless in the of the truck.

Makes no sense to me, anyway.



No-one has ever accused the rag heads of being intelligent, have they? Just vicious little murdering scumbags.


They hide comfortably and safely within their muslim enclaves until they venture out for some brisk murdering, nothing requiring too much in the way of smarts. In fact less is better for this type of filth.



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Baronvonrort on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:07pm

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:16pm:
Thing is though, i don't blame Islam. I blame terrorists.

You lot go on and on about Islam like it's the defining factor. It isn't.


Those who Jihad in the way of Allah get a higher position in heaven, Allah rewards muslims for this suicidal-homicidal behaviour and yet apologists insist Islamic terror has nothing to do with Islam.
I think it's funny how leftards who have never read the Islamic texts claim to be experts on Islam.

Sahih ahadith saying the Mujahideen get higher positions in Paradise, perhaps that has something to do with motivating these devout muslims.

Sunnah.com/muslim/33/175





Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:55pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:50pm:
There's nothing but a faceless murderer working alone here.


"faceless"?

Jesus!

First you shift the blame away from him, and now you want to give him complete anonymity.

Why do you people invest so much time and energy into absolving these killers?



Is that all you think I've posted?

Is that what you think I meant?

Sorry mate.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:09pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:52pm:
Dear Lisa,
it's limp wristed progressives like Greggy who have caused this -

they are weak against Islam.


No...they ARE weak full stop.

This is why Greg is unable to cope with the enormity and totality of what's staring at him in the face.

He compartmentalizes the little bits that fit and can be coped by his little world.

Now watch him as he uploads a little section of my post. That little section is all his mindset can cope with.

The major section of my post has been compartmentalized by him into the too hard to cope with basket of his poor mind.

You gotta feel sorry for him.


Lisa Jones:





Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:09pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:04pm:
But Trump is gunna round them up &
put them into FEMA camps &
maybe he'll even gas them just like Hitler did.

You've been reading too many New York Times articles. Or watching too much MSNBC.

I'd settle for a president who resolved not to import any more so-called "Syrian refugees" that Obama's FBI Director says we can't vet.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:12pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:00pm:
Weird.  There was a Report that some papers were found in the truck allegedly linking the driver/killer to Tunisia.  It would be absolute amateur hour if that killer had any genuine ID papers on him or in the truck.  And given the obvious intent to mow people down with the truck, what would be the point of the truck carrying a veritable arsenal in the back as alleged?  Y'ed reckon if he was part of some professional outfit, his mob would have a better use for said arsenal than having it sit useless in the of the truck.

Makes no sense to me, anyway.



No-one has ever accused the rag heads of being intelligent, have they? Just vicious little murdering scumbags.


They hide comfortably and safely within their muslim enclaves until they venture out for some brisk murdering, nothing requiring too much in the way of smarts. In fact less is better for this type of filth.


So, you agree with me ~ amateur hour.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:13pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:00pm:
Weird.  There was a Report that some papers were found in the truck allegedly linking the driver/killer to Tunisia.  It would be absolute amateur hour if that killer had any genuine ID papers on him or in the truck.  And given the obvious intent to mow people down with the truck, what would be the point of the truck carrying a veritable arsenal in the back as alleged?  Y'ed reckon if he was part of some professional outfit, his mob would have a better use for said arsenal than having it sit useless in the of the truck.

Makes no sense to me, anyway.



No-one has ever accused the rag heads of being intelligent, have they? Just vicious little murdering scumbags.


They hide comfortably and safely within their muslim enclaves until they venture out for some brisk murdering, nothing requiring too much in the way of smarts. In fact less is better for this type of filth.

They can always count on Western apologist leaders like Obama, whose first response to the Orlando massacre is to blame guns.

I look forward to him pushing for a ban on trucks after this attack.

Meanwhile, Western Muslim leaders will of course condemn the actions of "one individual" ... and the imam of his mosque will say that (1) no one had any idea that he was planning such an attack, (2) this just doesn't sound like him, and (3) the perpetrator once attended his mosque but hadn't been there lately.

It's all in the script.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Baronvonrort on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:13pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:12pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:00pm:
Weird.  There was a Report that some papers were found in the truck allegedly linking the driver/killer to Tunisia.  It would be absolute amateur hour if that killer had any genuine ID papers on him or in the truck.  And given the obvious intent to mow people down with the truck, what would be the point of the truck carrying a veritable arsenal in the back as alleged?  Y'ed reckon if he was part of some professional outfit, his mob would have a better use for said arsenal than having it sit useless in the of the truck.

Makes no sense to me, anyway.



No-one has ever accused the rag heads of being intelligent, have they? Just vicious little murdering scumbags.


They hide comfortably and safely within their muslim enclaves until they venture out for some brisk murdering, nothing requiring too much in the way of smarts. In fact less is better for this type of filth.


So, you agree with me ~ amateur hour.


With Allah it's the thought that counts it doesn't matter how ineffective they are.

Sunnah.com/muslim/33/175

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:15pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:55pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:50pm:
There's nothing but a faceless murderer working alone here.


"faceless"?

Jesus!

First you shift the blame away from him, and now you want to give him complete anonymity.

Why do you people invest so much time and energy into absolving these killers?



Is that all you think I've posted?

Is that what you think I meant?

Sorry mate.


THIS IS WHAT I POSTED ACTUALLY!

It fails a hell of a lot more tests than just that.

Did you know that people suffering with borderline personality disorder issues compartmentalize reality in order to cope with the dreadful enormity of it?

Greg is doing just that. Look closely at how he's attempting to cope with/rationalize recurring terror events.

The reality of what is happening is just too much for him to cope with.

So he blurrs the parameters. There's nothing but a faceless murderer working alone here. An exception if you like...an anomaly even.

Meantime, in the real world, we're more than aware that we have a very REAL problem with an Islamic religious organization that's well organized in recruiting Muslim adherents to kill innocent men, women and children. In the name of Allah.

And that's the terrifying reality that Greg cannot face despite the fact that it's staring him right btwn his eyes.

I think we just need to take a step back and be patient with him.

He's clearly suffering from severe shock.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:18pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:12pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:00pm:
Weird.  There was a Report that some papers were found in the truck allegedly linking the driver/killer to Tunisia.  It would be absolute amateur hour if that killer had any genuine ID papers on him or in the truck.  And given the obvious intent to mow people down with the truck, what would be the point of the truck carrying a veritable arsenal in the back as alleged?  Y'ed reckon if he was part of some professional outfit, his mob would have a better use for said arsenal than having it sit useless in the of the truck.

Makes no sense to me, anyway.



No-one has ever accused the rag heads of being intelligent, have they? Just vicious little murdering scumbags.


They hide comfortably and safely within their muslim enclaves until they venture out for some brisk murdering, nothing requiring too much in the way of smarts. In fact less is better for this type of filth.


So, you agree with me ~ amateur hour.


Couple of possibilities he was on his way to deliver weapons, real ID required because of checkpoints, police wanted to look in back of truck which was not expected so he decided to mow down infidels instead. 

Another possibility, hard to carry weapons on person into the area due to checkpoints and surveillance so the idea was load up truck, barge through barriers and into crowd, brothers laying in wait to open up truck and access weapons and continue to rain mayhem down on the infidels.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:18pm
Lisa,

Quote:
This is why Greg is unable to cope with the enormity and totality of what's staring at him in the face.



Greggy can't accept that Islam is the problem.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:18pm
Lisa, you're pleading your case quite well, but it's my duty to inform you that you're getting caught up in troll wars.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:19pm

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:00am:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:58am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:53am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:49am:
The UK Daily Mail.


link





Yes the Daily Mail. That's what we need now.


Take your smug snobbish lefty BS elsewhere. People are looking for information and the mail happens to have some. WTF!




I'll wait for less inflammatory sources.

I'm watching ABC news breakfast at the moment.

They stull haven't called it.


And THAT, dear Mothra honey-baby, is why I tapped into the latest news from the Daily Mail.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:19pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:04pm:
But Trump is gunna round them up &
put them into FEMA camps &
maybe he'll even gas them just like Hitler did.

You've been reading too many New York Times articles. Or watching too much MSNBC.

I'd settle for a president who resolved not to import any more so-called "Syrian refugees" that Obama's FBI Director says we can't vet.



Even Trump is probably too weak.

Only Hitler or Stalin could stop this nonsense.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:20pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:13pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:00pm:
Weird.  There was a Report that some papers were found in the truck allegedly linking the driver/killer to Tunisia.  It would be absolute amateur hour if that killer had any genuine ID papers on him or in the truck.  And given the obvious intent to mow people down with the truck, what would be the point of the truck carrying a veritable arsenal in the back as alleged?  Y'ed reckon if he was part of some professional outfit, his mob would have a better use for said arsenal than having it sit useless in the of the truck.

Makes no sense to me, anyway.



No-one has ever accused the rag heads of being intelligent, have they? Just vicious little murdering scumbags.


They hide comfortably and safely within their muslim enclaves until they venture out for some brisk murdering, nothing requiring too much in the way of smarts. In fact less is better for this type of filth.

They can always count on Western apologist leaders like Obama, whose first response to the Orlando massacre is to blame guns.

I look forward to him pushing for a ban on trucks after this attack.

Meanwhile, Western Muslim leaders will of course condemn the actions of "one individual" ... and the imam of his mosque will say that (1) no one had any idea that he was planning such an attack, (2) this just doesn't sound like him, and (3) the perpetrator once attended his mosque but hadn't been there lately.

It's all in the script.


And luvvies will continue to deflect, mitigate and excuse all the whilst repeating "Islam got nuffin to do wiv nuffin".

They spread their arse cheeks and submitted a long time ago.   

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:21pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:15pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:55pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:50pm:
There's nothing but a faceless murderer working alone here.


"faceless"?

Jesus!

First you shift the blame away from him, and now you want to give him complete anonymity.

Why do you people invest so much time and energy into absolving these killers?



Is that all you think I've posted?

Is that what you think I meant?

Sorry mate.


THIS IS WHAT I POSTED ACTUALLY!

It fails a hell of a lot more tests than just that.

Did you know that people suffering with borderline personality disorder issues compartmentalize reality in order to cope with the dreadful enormity of it?

Greg is doing just that. Look closely at how he's attempting to cope with/rationalize recurring terror events.

The reality of what is happening is just too much for him to cope with.

So he blurrs the parameters. There's nothing but a faceless murderer working alone here. An exception if you like...an anomaly even.

Meantime, in the real world, we're more than aware that we have a very REAL problem with an Islamic religious organization that's well organized in recruiting Muslim adherents to kill innocent men, women and children. In the name of Allah.

And that's the terrifying reality that Greg cannot face despite the fact that it's staring him right btwn his eyes.

I think we just need to take a step back and be patient with him.

He's clearly suffering from severe shock.


"faceless"?

Jesus!

First you shift the blame away from him, and now you want to give him complete anonymity.

Why do you people invest so much time and energy into absolving these killers?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:21pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:19pm:
Even Trump is probably too weak.

Only Hitler or Stalin could stop this nonsense.

I don't disagree with the latter statement.

But since Hitler and Stalin aren't on the ballot, Trump is going to be my choice. At least he's not so worried about courting Muslim votes that he's afraid to say "Islamic terrorism."

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:21pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:12pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:00pm:
Weird.  There was a Report that some papers were found in the truck allegedly linking the driver/killer to Tunisia.  It would be absolute amateur hour if that killer had any genuine ID papers on him or in the truck.  And given the obvious intent to mow people down with the truck, what would be the point of the truck carrying a veritable arsenal in the back as alleged?  Y'ed reckon if he was part of some professional outfit, his mob would have a better use for said arsenal than having it sit useless in the of the truck.

Makes no sense to me, anyway.




No-one has ever accused the rag heads of being intelligent, have they? Just vicious little murdering scumbags.


They hide comfortably and safely within their muslim enclaves until they venture out for some brisk murdering, nothing requiring too much in the way of smarts. In fact less is better for this type of filth.


So, you agree with me ~ amateur hour.




Yes they are nothing more than dullards who kill white people while hiding in lain sight due to the gutless nature of french authorities.

While that makes no sense to you if you take into account the limited intellect of the muslim, it will make perfect sense.


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Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Baronvonrort on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:22pm
Any of the Islamic apologists want to comment on this verse that rewards the Mujahideen who jihad in the way of Allah with a higher position in paradise (heaven)

Arsie,Mothra,Little pecca?

Sunnah.com/muslim/33/175

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:23pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:19pm:
Even Trump is probably too weak.

Only Hitler or Stalin could stop this nonsense.

I don't disagree with the latter statement.

But since Hitler and Stalin aren't on the ballot, Trump is going to be my choice. At least he's not so worried about courting Muslim votes that he's afraid to say "Islamic terrorism."



Trump will win now for sure.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:23pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:18pm:
Lisa, you're pleading your case quite well, but it's my duty to inform you that you're getting caught up in troll wars.


Ah ok lol.

I need to get going now anyway. I have my little ones at Church Kids Club today so I need to pick them up and then do a little bit of shopping.

Enjoy!

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:23pm

Why do you rightards invest so much time and energy into absolving these killers?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:25pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:23pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:19pm:
Even Trump is probably too weak.

Only Hitler or Stalin could stop this nonsense.

I don't disagree with the latter statement.

But since Hitler and Stalin aren't on the ballot, Trump is going to be my choice. At least he's not so worried about courting Muslim votes that he's afraid to say "Islamic terrorism."



Trump will win now for sure.


God I hope not.

But yeah...I reckon he just might.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:23pm:
Why do you rightards invest so much time and energy into absolving these killers?



Why do you apologise for Islam?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:23pm:
Why do you rightards invest so much time and energy into absolving these killers?


Cuckoo.  :o

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:26pm
Want to read a surprisingly relevant column by Ann Coulter, the sassiest conservative lady in America?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/06/29/ann-coulter-hidden-fact-predicts-terrorism/

Here's an excerpt:

Quote:
Western governments have devoted incalculable resources to developing some diagnostic test other than “Muslim” to predict terrorism. As the New York Times reported earlier this year:

“What turns people toward violence — and whether they can be steered away from it — are questions that have bedeviled governments around the world for generations. Those questions have taken on fresh urgency with the rise of the Islamic State and the string of attacks in Europe and the United States. Despite millions of dollars of government-sponsored research, and a much-publicized White House pledge to find answers, there is still nothing close to a consensus on why someone becomes a terrorist.”

I have a possible indicator! M-U-S-L- …

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:23pm:
Why do you rightards invest so much time and energy into absolving these killers?



Why do you apologise for Islam?


Try to keep up, Booby.

I've made no apologies in this thread.

You, however, continue to shift the blame away from the killer.

Why do you rightards always do that with murderers?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:27pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:23pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:19pm:
Even Trump is probably too weak.

Only Hitler or Stalin could stop this nonsense.

I don't disagree with the latter statement.

But since Hitler and Stalin aren't on the ballot, Trump is going to be my choice. At least he's not so worried about courting Muslim votes that he's afraid to say "Islamic terrorism."



Trump will win now for sure.


God I hope not.

But yeah...I reckon he just might.

Why would you prefer Hillary, whose family foundation has taken millions of dollars in donations from Middle East countries that abuse women?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:27pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:23pm:
Why do you rightards invest so much time and energy into absolving these killers?


Cuckoo.  :o


You do it because you're cuckoo?

Well, at least you're being honest (for once).


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:27pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:23pm:
Why do you rightards invest so much time and energy into absolving these killers?


Cuckoo.  :o



Lisa - pick up those kids - get them out of the church.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:27pm

Quote:
Couple of possibilities he was on his way to deliver weapons, real ID required because of checkpoints, police wanted to look in back of truck which was not expected so he decided to mow down infidels instead.


Sure, it's the very night, with Cops everywhere, that you have a routine weapons delivery run, and not anticipate check points...if there were.  Can't have been, could there, because he got through them bristling with weapons, allegedly.


Quote:
Another possibility, hard to carry weapons on person into the area due to checkpoints and surveillance so the idea was load up truck, barge through barriers and into crowd, brothers laying in wait to open up truck and access weapons and continue to rain mayhem down on the infidels.


No suggestion of that.  Vision I saw was that the truck was travelling quite slowly for quite some distance, and then suddenly accelerated into the crowd.

I'm sticking with amateur hour.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:27pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:23pm:
Why do you rightards invest so much time and energy into absolving these killers?


Cuckoo.  :o


You do it because you're cuckoo?

Well, at least you're being honest (for once).


Cuckoo  :o

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:28pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:27pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:23pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:19pm:
Even Trump is probably too weak.

Only Hitler or Stalin could stop this nonsense.

I don't disagree with the latter statement.

But since Hitler and Stalin aren't on the ballot, Trump is going to be my choice. At least he's not so worried about courting Muslim votes that he's afraid to say "Islamic terrorism."



Trump will win now for sure.


God I hope not.

But yeah...I reckon he just might.

Why would you prefer Hillary, whose family foundation has taken millions of dollars in donations from Middle East countries that abuse women?



I think both are poor candidates.

We need someone like Abe.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lisa Jones on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:29pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:27pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:23pm:
Why do you rightards invest so much time and energy into absolving these killers?


Cuckoo.  :o



Lisa - pick up those kids - get them out of the church.


Yep. 3 pm pick up.

I need to log off.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:30pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:28pm:
I think both are poor candidates.

We need someone like Abe.

Lincoln or that guy from Japan?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:32pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:22pm:
Any of the Islamic apologists want to comment on this verse that rewards the Mujahideen who jihad in the way of Allah with a higher position in paradise (heaven)

Arsie,Mothra,Little pecca?

Sunnah.com/muslim/33/175


I'll give you the courtesy of a reply.  I don't give a schit what is written in some Sky Fairy book.  If I did, I'd be rounding up all the Christians to pre-empt mass killings of poofters.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Quantum on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:32pm

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:16pm:
Thing is though, i don't blame Islam. I blame terrorists.

You lot go on and on about Islam like it's the defining factor. It isn't.


Thing is though, I don't blame the man. I blame the truck.

You lot go on and on about the man like he's the defining factor. He isn't.





That's the level of logic when dealing with you and pecca. You pretend to be enlightened and rational and not like those silly "bigots" who blame Islam because they are "apologist" and "Islamophobic", but it clear as day that neither of you have a clue.

Just like the man steered the truck into the crowd, Islam steered this man into doing this. Only a total drooling retard would not be able to see the way Islam drives people to do such horrible things. It is idiotic to think human beings are not driven by suggestion, ideology, and the culture and worldview of those they are surrounded by.

There is a reason why we never see people blowing up, driving through, shooting dead, or beheading groups of people in the name of Mickey Mouse or the girl guides. But there is a reason why we see people doing this in the name of Allah though. It's not just a coincidence.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:33pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:28pm:
I think both are poor candidates.

We need someone like Abe.

Lincoln or that guy from Japan?



Abraham Lincoln of course.

Another Churchill would do.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:34pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:33pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:28pm:
I think both are poor candidates.

We need someone like Abe.

Lincoln or that guy from Japan?




Abraham Lincoln of course.

Another Churchill would do.

Let me know if you find one. Or Maggie.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:35pm

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:32pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:16pm:
Thing is though, i don't blame Islam. I blame terrorists.

You lot go on and on about Islam like it's the defining factor. It isn't.


Thing is though, I don't blame the man ...


Yes.  You've all made that quite clear.

You shift the blame away from the terrorists at every opportunity you get.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:35pm
I just read a report in today's Courier Mail that the French President Hollande has $14,500.00 spent on his hair every month!

Link.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:36pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:35pm:
I just read a report in today's Courier Mail that the French President Hollande has $14,500.00 spent on his hair every month!

Link.



And yet he's half bald - go figure?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:37pm

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:32pm:
There is a reason why we never see people blowing up, driving through, shooting dead, or beheading groups of people in the name of Mickey Mouse or the girl guides.


Tell us more.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:37pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:27pm:

Quote:
Couple of possibilities he was on his way to deliver weapons, real ID required because of checkpoints, police wanted to look in back of truck which was not expected so he decided to mow down infidels instead.


Sure, it's the very night, with Cops everywhere, that you have a routine weapons delivery run, and not anticipate check points...if there were.  Can't have been, could there, because he got through them bristling with weapons, allegedly.

[quote]Another possibility, hard to carry weapons on person into the area due to checkpoints and surveillance so the idea was load up truck, barge through barriers and into crowd, brothers laying in wait to open up truck and access weapons and continue to rain mayhem down on the infidels.


No suggestion of that.  Vision I saw was that the truck was travelling quite slowly for quite some distance, and then suddenly accelerated into the crowd.

I'm sticking with amateur hour.[/quote]

I didn't say routine, I meant a weapons delivery to brothers for Bastille day in a city that has had armed police and army on streetcorners for a year now and no doubt would have been ramped up for Bastille day. You know, because attacks would have been more likely.

And news just in, 80 dead, some frigging amateurs. 

Still, gladden your heart Aussie, it may yet be Buddhists or joy of joys for you, a right wing nut job.   



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:39pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:37pm:
Still, gladden your heart Aussie, it may yet be Buddhists or joy of joys for you, a right wing nut job.   


Still trying to shift the blame.

Incredible   ::)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:40pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:32pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:22pm:
Any of the Islamic apologists want to comment on this verse that rewards the Mujahideen who jihad in the way of Allah with a higher position in paradise (heaven)

Arsie,Mothra,Little pecca?

Sunnah.com/muslim/33/175


I'll give you the courtesy of a reply.  I don't give a schit what is written in some Sky Fairy book.  If I did, I'd be rounding up all the Christians to pre-empt mass killings of poofters.


Impossible  to debate with the incoherent thought process that throws that up as riposte.   ::)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:40pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:33pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:28pm:
I think both are poor candidates.

We need someone like Abe.

Lincoln or that guy from Japan?




Abraham Lincoln of course.

Another Churchill would do.

Let me know if you find one. Or Maggie.



The USA is a large country with 300 million people -
you'd think they'd be able to find someone better than those two numbskulls -
Trump & Hilary.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:42pm

Quote:
And news just in, 80 dead, some frigging amateurs.


Given the density of the crowd and the size/speed of the weapon, there could have been many more.

Where do you get amateurs from?  There was only one driver, yeas?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Quantum on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:37pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:32pm:
There is a reason why we never see people blowing up, driving through, shooting dead, or beheading groups of people in the name of Mickey Mouse or the girl guides.


Tell us more.



He did it in the name of Mickey Mouse did he?

Fuking idiot.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:42pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:40pm:
The USA is a large country with 300 million people -
you'd think they'd be able to find someone better than those two numbskulls -
Trump & Hilary.

It would have been worse if the Republican establishment had gotten its wish -- most likely Jeb Bush, who thinks illegal immigration is an "act of love."

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:43pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:40pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:32pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:22pm:
Any of the Islamic apologists want to comment on this verse that rewards the Mujahideen who jihad in the way of Allah with a higher position in paradise (heaven)

Arsie,Mothra,Little pecca?

Sunnah.com/muslim/33/175


I'll give you the courtesy of a reply.  I don't give a schit what is written in some Sky Fairy book.  If I did, I'd be rounding up all the Christians to pre-empt mass killings of poofters.


Impossible  to debate with the incoherent thought process that throws that up as riposte.   ::)


Oh....you not familiar with urgings of the Old Testament?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:44pm

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:37pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:32pm:
There is a reason why we never see people blowing up, driving through, shooting dead, or beheading groups of people in the name of Mickey Mouse or the girl guides.


Tell us more.



He did it in the name of Mickey Mouse did he?

Fuking idiot.


He didn't do it "in the name of Islam".

Thus, argument destroyed.

Why do you continue to shift the blame away from murderers?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:45pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

Quote:
And news just in, 80 dead, some frigging amateurs.


Given the density of the crowd and the size/speed of the weapon, there could have been many more.

Where do you get amateurs from?  There was only one driver, yeas?


Yes, only one reported.  Might even be a lone wolf attack, you may have heard of them, though possibly not with your ears being muffled by your head being up your arse.   ;D

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Quantum on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:45pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

Quote:
And news just in, 80 dead, some frigging amateurs.


Given the density of the crowd and the size/speed of the weapon, there could have been many more.

Where do you get amateurs from?  There was only one driver, yeas?


Don't worry. The mosque will use a professional next time. Then you will have 800 dead westerns to celebrate over.

Only 80 dead? What a n00b! ::)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:45pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:40pm:
The USA is a large country with 300 million people -
you'd think they'd be able to find someone better than those two numbskulls -
Trump & Hilary.

It would have been worse if the Republican establishment had gotten its wish -- most likely Jeb Bush, who thinks illegal immigration is an "act of love."



Roosevelt locked up all the Japs.

Would Trump lock up all the Mussies?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:46pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

Quote:
And news just in, 80 dead, some frigging amateurs.


Given the density of the crowd and the size/speed of the weapon, there could have been many more.

Where do you get amateurs from?  There was only one driver, yeas?


Lisa doesn't think so.

She believes there were more.

She won't say where she's getting her information from, though.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:39pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:37pm:
Still, gladden your heart Aussie, it may yet be Buddhists or joy of joys for you, a right wing nut job.   


Still trying to shift the blame.

Incredible   ::)


Islam got nuffin to do wivnuffin, innit.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:37pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:32pm:
There is a reason why we never see people blowing up, driving through, shooting dead, or beheading groups of people in the name of Mickey Mouse or the girl guides.


Tell us more.




And what did we do with ALL gun owners after that fkktard let loose?


Maybe it's time to do the same with your friggen mussie mates, since it worked so well the first time.



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Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:48pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:45pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:40pm:
The USA is a large country with 300 million people -
you'd think they'd be able to find someone better than those two numbskulls -
Trump & Hilary.

It would have been worse if the Republican establishment had gotten its wish -- most likely Jeb Bush, who thinks illegal immigration is an "act of love."



Roosevelt locked up all the Japs.

Would Trump lock up all the Mussies?


He's right into torture, so he might put them in his hotels.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:48pm
Ironic twist:
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/07/14/nice-terror-many-muslim-victims-mother-martyr/


Quote:
As the death toll continues to mount in Nice, France after a truck plowed into Bastille Day oceanfront crowds in what is suspected to be an Islamic terror attack, a report has emerged that a number of the victims were Muslims themselves.

The UK Guardian cited Maryam Violet, an Iranian journalist in France on vacation, who reported: “There were so many Muslim people who were victims because I could see they had scarves over their head and some were speaking Arabic. One family lost a mother and in Arabic they were saying she’s a martyr.”


In the words of Shakespeare: "Hoist with his own petard."

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:48pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:40pm:
The USA is a large country with 300 million people -
you'd think they'd be able to find someone better than those two numbskulls -
Trump & Hilary.

It would have been worse if the Republican establishment had gotten its wish -- most likely Jeb Bush, who thinks illegal immigration is an "act of love."



Roosevelt locked up all the Japs.

Would Trump lock up all the Mussies?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Quantum on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:44pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:37pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:32pm:
There is a reason why we never see people blowing up, driving through, shooting dead, or beheading groups of people in the name of Mickey Mouse or the girl guides.


Tell us more.



He did it in the name of Mickey Mouse did he?

Fuking idiot.


He didn't do it "in the name of Islam".

Thus, argument destroyed.

Why do you continue to shift the blame away from murderers?


1 nut job kills people because he is a nut, so that means when 1000 Muslims kill people in the name of Islam it has nothing to do with Islam...

Fuking idiot.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:50pm

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

Quote:
And news just in, 80 dead, some frigging amateurs.


Given the density of the crowd and the size/speed of the weapon, there could have been many more.

Where do you get amateurs from?  There was only one driver, yeas?


Don't worry. The mosque will use a professional next time. Then you will have 800 dead westerns to celebrate over.

Only 80 dead? What a n00b! ::)


Shove your crap abuse up your clacker.  I'm celebrating nothing, and it is offensive that you would suggest it.  My point is ~ amateur hour, and hardly the work of some well trained and organised killing machine, at least based on what we know so far.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:51pm

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:44pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:37pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:32pm:
There is a reason why we never see people blowing up, driving through, shooting dead, or beheading groups of people in the name of Mickey Mouse or the girl guides.


Tell us more.



He did it in the name of Mickey Mouse did he?

Fuking idiot.


He didn't do it "in the name of Islam".

Thus, argument destroyed.

Why do you continue to shift the blame away from murderers?


1 nut job kills people because he is a nut, so that means when 1000 Muslims kill people in the name of Islam it has nothing to do with Islam...

Fuking idiot.


So, the truck driver in France wasn't a nut?

First you shift the blame away from him, and now you openly defend him.

Quite incredible.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:51pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:48pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:40pm:
The USA is a large country with 300 million people -
you'd think they'd be able to find someone better than those two numbskulls -
Trump & Hilary.

It would have been worse if the Republican establishment had gotten its wish -- most likely Jeb Bush, who thinks illegal immigration is an "act of love."



Roosevelt locked up all the Japs.

Would Trump lock up all the Mussies?

Why lock them up -- then you have to feed them.

Ideally he'd ship them out. But the Vichy Republicans in Congress would never approve such a thing, so he'd probably have to settle for just keeping out "Syrian" refugees.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:51pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:43pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:40pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:32pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:22pm:
Any of the Islamic apologists want to comment on this verse that rewards the Mujahideen who jihad in the way of Allah with a higher position in paradise (heaven)

Arsie,Mothra,Little pecca?

Sunnah.com/muslim/33/175


I'll give you the courtesy of a reply.  I don't give a schit what is written in some Sky Fairy book.  If I did, I'd be rounding up all the Christians to pre-empt mass killings of poofters.


Impossible  to debate with the incoherent thought process that throws that up as riposte.   ::)


Oh....you not familiar with urgings of the Old Testament?


I was referring to the incoherence of simultaneously not accepting the liability of anything being connected to anything in one book of fairy stories whilst at the same time holding the belief of another book of fairy stories being liable. 

You hold that Islamists at not influenced by the Koran but that fundy Christians are influenced by the bible.

Which is why you are an apologist deflecting clown. 

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:55pm
What we know is Hollande said the word "Islam" in his speech about the truck attack

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Culture Warrior on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:56pm
Release The Breivik.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:57pm

Quote:
I was referring to the incoherence of simultaneously not accepting the liability of anything being connected to anything in one book of fairy stories whilst at the same time holding the belief of another book of fairy stories being liable.

You hold that Islamists at not influenced by the Koran but that fundy Christians are influenced by the bible.


I'm "holding" nothing.  I'm saying that if you want to blame some Sky Fairy book, you cannot stop at just one.  I don't rely or refer to either of them.  I do not seek to apologise for the conduct of some idiot on the basis that he read some dumb arse book, just like I would not accept as an excuse that the OT said it was okay if some idiot  Baptist Pastor blew up Mardi Gras.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Fireball on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:51pm:
So, the truck driver in France wasn't a nut?


Haemorrhoid, use that cr@p for a brain you have, and ask yourself a couple of simple questions, notice I said, 'simple'. How many truck drivers intentionally drive at crowds of innocent people, and why would a truck driver have a truck loaded with explosives and weapons? Why was there more than one 'nut' as you call him, which made you think they weren't jihadi terrorists?

You're a terrorist sympathiser.



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Bias_2012 on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:01pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:51pm:
Vichy Republicans



Apt description there 4th ... welcome change from "RINOS"

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Quantum on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:02pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:50pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

Quote:
And news just in, 80 dead, some frigging amateurs.


Given the density of the crowd and the size/speed of the weapon, there could have been many more.

Where do you get amateurs from?  There was only one driver, yeas?


Don't worry. The mosque will use a professional next time. Then you will have 800 dead westerns to celebrate over.

Only 80 dead? What a n00b! ::)


Shove your crap abuse up your clacker.  I'm celebrating nothing, and it is offensive that you would suggest it.  My point is ~ amateur hour, and hardly the work of some well trained and organised killing machine, at least based on what we know so far.


And you can shove your racist "Arabia for Arabs" and blame for the western world whenever some Muslim prick kills dozens of western citizens back up your own clacker where it came from.

You want to sit in a western country and claim your homeland off limits to westerns as if influence is a one way street. Total BS, but not surprising in today's entitled minority group lefty society.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Quantum on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:09pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:57pm:

Quote:
I was referring to the incoherence of simultaneously not accepting the liability of anything being connected to anything in one book of fairy stories whilst at the same time holding the belief of another book of fairy stories being liable.

You hold that Islamists at not influenced by the Koran but that fundy Christians are influenced by the bible.


I'm "holding" nothing.  I'm saying that if you want to blame some Sky Fairy book, you cannot stop at just one.  I don't rely or refer to either of them.  I do not seek to apologise for the conduct of some idiot on the basis that he read some dumb arse book, just like I would not accept as an excuse that the OT said it was okay if some idiot  Baptist Pastor blew up Mardi Gras.


Why not? What kind of self delusional rationally is this rubbish?

This is like saying if one shop rips off customers, we must hold all shops accountable. If one car company makes dangerous cars that gets people killed, we must blame all car manufactures. Why stop at one right? We cannot put the blame were the blame should be laid, instead we have to hold everyone to blame so as to be balanced.

Islam is the problem. This joke that you can't critize the Quran without criticising the bible as well may sound good in self righteous lefty Uni discussion groups, but it is simply BS to avoid dealing with the actual issue.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:11pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:57pm:

Quote:
I was referring to the incoherence of simultaneously not accepting the liability of anything being connected to anything in one book of fairy stories whilst at the same time holding the belief of another book of fairy stories being liable.

You hold that Islamists at not influenced by the Koran but that fundy Christians are influenced by the bible.


I'm "holding" nothing.  I'm saying that if you want to blame some Sky Fairy book, you cannot stop at just one.  I don't rely or refer to either of them.  I do not seek to apologise for the conduct of some idiot on the basis that he read some dumb arse book, just like I would not accept as an excuse that the OT said it was okay if some idiot  Baptist Pastor blew up Mardi Gras.


LOL, you didn't refuse to look at one and you didn't refer to the OT in regard to rounding up fundies to preempt mass killing of poofters?

You accept that fundies are influenced by the bible but you refuse to accept that Islamists are influenced by thier religious texts. 

That's what makes you a deflecting apologist. 

Unless you wish to revise your idiotic inchorence and accept that believers of both faiths are influenced by their religious instructions.   




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:13pm

Quote:
And you can shove your racist "Arabia for Arabs" and blame for the western world whenever some Muslim prick kills dozens of western citizens back up your own clacker where it came from.


Oh, so you know of my platform that Arabia is for Arabs.  Do you agree with it?


Quote:
You want to sit in a western country and claim your homeland off limits to westerns as if influence is a one way street. Total BS, but not surprising in today's entitled minority group lefty society.


I assume you are referring to a Muslim living in a Western country.  Before I get all finger pointing about that, I'd be looking at why that Muslim was there in the first place.  I'm pretty sure he'd rather be back in Arabia, but some Western lot keep making that a schitty place to live, so he has moved.  He then sees from afar that his Family in Arabia is still being blown to smithereens by the West, so he gets cranky.  Weird innit.  Incomprehensible.

You can bet that if the Japs had won the Second World War in the Pacific and had over-run Australia, I would still, to this day and while I had breath in my body, be doing all I could to blow everyone one of them, and their Homeland apart, even if I had become a person living in Japan.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Fireball on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:14pm
..

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:15pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:01pm:
... why would a truck driver have a truck loaded with explosives and weapons?


He wanted to kill people.

Have you not been watching the news?

Why do you continue to shift blame away from this killer?

What's in it for you to defend these murderers?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Fireball on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:15pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:01pm:
... why would a truck driver have a truck loaded with explosives and weapons?


He wanted to kill people.

Have you not been watching the news?

Why do you continue to shift blame away from this killer?

What's in it for you to defend these murderers?


Jihadi terrorist sympathiser.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:15pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:01pm:
... why would a truck driver have a truck loaded with explosives and weapons?


He wanted to kill people.

Have you not been watching the news?

Why do you continue to shift blame away from this killer?

What's in it for you to defend these murderers?


Greg "Islamgotnuffintodowivnuffin" peccary.   ;D ;D :D

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:19pm

Quote:
Unless you wish to revise your idiotic inchorence and accept that believers of both faiths are influenced by their religious instructions.   


Read what I have said.  I would not accept or seek to apologise for an act of inhumanity done under a claimed blessing of any Sky Fairy book, including an Islamic one.  I reject it outright.

This idiot in Paris has no-one other than himself to blame, and shouting 'Allah Crackafat' at the relevant time does not shift responsibility elsewhere.  He is solely responsible, just like that hypothetical Baptist Pastor would be responsible if he blew up Mardi Gras.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:20pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:15pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:01pm:
... why would a truck driver have a truck loaded with explosives and weapons?


He wanted to kill people.

Have you not been watching the news?

Why do you continue to shift blame away from this killer?

What's in it for you to defend these murderers?


Jihadi terrorist sympathiser.


Ah.

Thanks for the honest answer.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:21pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:15pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:01pm:
... why would a truck driver have a truck loaded with explosives and weapons?


He wanted to kill people.

Have you not been watching the news?

Why do you continue to shift blame away from this killer?

What's in it for you to defend these murderers?


Greg "Islamgotnuffintodowivnuffin" peccary.   ;D ;D :D


Still no condemnation of the killer, as you continue to shift the blame away from him.

I wonder how long you and your murderer-defending buddies will keep this up.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Fireball on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:20pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:15pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:01pm:
... why would a truck driver have a truck loaded with explosives and weapons?


He wanted to kill people.

Have you not been watching the news?

Why do you continue to shift blame away from this killer?

What's in it for you to defend these murderers?


Jihadi terrorist sympathiser.


Ah.

Thanks for the honest answer.


You should be kicked off this forum for good. You are deranged.



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:28pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:19pm:

Quote:
Unless you wish to revise your idiotic inchorence and accept that believers of both faiths are influenced by their religious instructions.   


Read what I have said.  I would not accept or seek to apologise for an act of inhumanity done under a claimed blessing of any Sky Fairy book, including an Islamic one.  I reject it outright.

This idiot in Paris has no-one other than himself to blame, and shouting 'Allah Crackafat' at the relevant time does not shift responsibility elsewhere.  He is solely responsible, just like that hypothetical Baptist Pastor would be responsible if he blew up Mardi Gras.


You like Greg "islamgptnuffindodowivnuffin" Peccary deny and refuse to accept the influence of any religious dimension in attacks in which the attackers themselves claim religious inspiration and instruction and find sanction in religious texts. 

Good to know. 

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:29pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:23pm:
You should be kicked off this forum for good.


I totally agree.

His only intention in logging in here is to ruin one thread after the other with an endless series of tit-for-tats with anyone who will play with him.

If he wasn't married to FD's sister he would have been off this forum board at least a year ago.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:31pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:20pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:15pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:01pm:
... why would a truck driver have a truck loaded with explosives and weapons?


He wanted to kill people.

Have you not been watching the news?

Why do you continue to shift blame away from this killer?

What's in it for you to defend these murderers?


Jihadi terrorist sympathiser.


Ah.

Thanks for the honest answer.


You should be kicked off this forum for good. You are deranged.


I condemned the killer immediately, and have placed the blame right at his feet.

You and your little buddies, however, shift the blame away from him while you abuse other forum members.

You all should be ashamed of yourselves.



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:21pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:15pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:01pm:
... why would a truck driver have a truck loaded with explosives and weapons?


He wanted to kill people.

Have you not been watching the news?

Why do you continue to shift blame away from this killer?

What's in it for you to defend these murderers?


Greg "Islamgotnuffintodowivnuffin" peccary.   ;D ;D :D


Still no condemnation of the killer, as you continue to shift the blame away from him.

I wonder how long you and your murderer-defending buddies will keep this up.


You agree then, Islam got nuffin to do wiv nuffin?  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:32pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:29pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:23pm:
You should be kicked off this forum for good.


I totally agree.

His only intention in logging in here is to ruin one thread after the other with an endless series of tit-for-tats with anyone who will play with him.

If he wasn't married to FD's sister he would have been off this forum board at least a year ago.


the islamists are a major threat to greg and the leftists.
they now appear to be attacking soft targets.
nothing is much softer then gregs brain

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:33pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:29pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:23pm:
You should be kicked off this forum for good.


I totally agree.

His only intention in logging in here is to ruin one thread after the other with an endless series of tit-for-tats with anyone who will play with him.

If he wasn't married to FD's sister he would have been off this forum board at least a year ago.


Lord Herbert: "I hope the stupid bitch gets raped by some more Arab Muslims."

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Fireball on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:33pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:29pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:23pm:
You should be kicked off this forum for good.


I totally agree.

His only intention in logging in here is to ruin one thread after the other with an endless series of tit-for-tats with anyone who will play with him.

If he wasn't married to FD's sister he would have been off this forum board at least a year ago.


No sister, but he has a couple of brothers, haemorrhoid would certainly appreciate them. If they were Jihadi terrorists, haemorrhoid would think his boat had come in......

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Quantum on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:33pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:20pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:15pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:01pm:
... why would a truck driver have a truck loaded with explosives and weapons?


He wanted to kill people.

Have you not been watching the news?

Why do you continue to shift blame away from this killer?

What's in it for you to defend these murderers?


Jihadi terrorist sympathiser.


Ah.

Thanks for the honest answer.


You should be kicked off this forum for good. You are deranged.


Agreed. Probably more than half his posts have been is threads regarding Muslims, and all of them are to deflect from the terrible situation by stirring the shlt out of everyone as he accuses them of being apologist and sympathisers. He is nothing but a pervert and clearly gets off on provoking people in times of tragedy.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:33pm
is the project on tonight?
i look forward to Waleeds analysis.

I'm betting they do a story on kittens instead !! ;)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:34pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:32pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:29pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:23pm:
You should be kicked off this forum for good.


I totally agree.

His only intention in logging in here is to ruin one thread after the other with an endless series of tit-for-tats with anyone who will play with him.

If he wasn't married to FD's sister he would have been off this forum board at least a year ago.


the islamists are a major threat to greg and the leftists.
they now appear to be attacking soft targets.
nothing is much softer then gregs brain


Another apologist trying to shift the blame.

How many more of you rightards will come out and defend this killer today?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:35pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:33pm:
is the project on tonight?
i look forward to Waleeds analysis.

I'm betting they do a story on kittens instead !! ;)


I'll take that bet.

How much?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:35pm
love the ABC journo who was in the area when he said(and  i quote)

"the crowd were in a joyful mood. after the attack this all changed"  thank you Einstein

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:36pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:33pm:
is the project on tonight?
i look forward to Waleeds analysis.

I'm betting they do a story on kittens instead !! ;)


Keep an eye on Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed's face book page and see if he blames Islamophobia.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:37pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:35pm:
love the ABC journo who was in the area when he said(and  i quote)

"the crowd were in a joyful mood. after the attack this all changed"  thank you Einstein


Dozens of people dead, and aqua shifts blame from the killer while criticising journalists.

What a class act.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Quantum on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:37pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:33pm:
is the project on tonight?
i look forward to Waleeds analysis.


It's too soon. But once he gets his hand off it he will be able to write up his spin story.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:42pm
waleed is commenting.

he is analysing Pokemon Go...hard hitting journalist
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Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:44pm
time for Frances leadership to outsource their leadership





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Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Squire on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:45pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:44pm:
time for Frances leadership to outsource their leadership


Are you available?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Squire on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:46pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:36pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:33pm:
is the project on tonight?
i look forward to Waleeds analysis.

I'm betting they do a story on kittens instead !! ;)


Keep an eye on Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed's face book page and see if he blames Islamophobia.


I am sure you will do this for us.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:35pm:
love the ABC journo who was in the area when he said(and  i quote)

"the crowd were in a joyful mood. after the attack this all changed"  thank you Einstein


Dozens of people dead, and aqua shifts blame from the killer while criticising journalists.

What a class act.



the driver was probably just trying to catch pokemons and took his eyes off the road, 

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:50pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:35pm:
love the ABC journo who was in the area when he said(and  i quote)

"the crowd were in a joyful mood. after the attack this all changed"  thank you Einstein


Dozens of people dead, and aqua shifts blame from the killer while criticising journalists.

What a class act.



the driver was probably just trying to catch pokemons and took his eyes off the road, 


Joking apologist.

Not very alpha.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:34pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:32pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:29pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:23pm:
You should be kicked off this forum for good.


I totally agree.

His only intention in logging in here is to ruin one thread after the other with an endless series of tit-for-tats with anyone who will play with him.

If he wasn't married to FD's sister he would have been off this forum board at least a year ago.


the islamists are a major threat to greg and the leftists.
they now appear to be attacking soft targets.
nothing is much softer then gregs brain


Another apologist trying to shift the blame.

How many more of you rightards will come out and defend this killer today?


Allow me to nail it for you, yet again.

We know you condemn the killer, Rick, we all do.

The difference is we want to delve a bit deeper to find out what (if any) were the motivating factors. Was there a support network? Was there some kind of ideology or philosophy which egged him on that may result in yet more incidences like this?

I've googled 'terror France' and there are lots of results for some despicable acts.

What I propose is rather than placing our hands over our eyes and shouting 'oh gosh it happened again' 'oh gosh it happened again.... lets remove our hand from our eyes and analyze what keeps causing these things.

If the answer upsets our sensibilities. so be it.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:54pm

Quote:
You like Greg "islamgptnuffindodowivnuffin" Peccary deny and refuse to accept the influence of any religious dimension in attacks in which the attackers themselves claim religious inspiration and instruction and find sanction in religious texts. 


If some wa nker stands before a Judge and pleads that the "Devil made me do it Ya 'onor" is he gonna get some discount, and is the Judge then going to vent about the Devil, and how 'he' must be destroyed?

Good luck with that.  No-one can kill off an ideology.  No-one ever has, no-one ever will.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:59pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:34pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:32pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:29pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:23pm:
You should be kicked off this forum for good.


I totally agree.

His only intention in logging in here is to ruin one thread after the other with an endless series of tit-for-tats with anyone who will play with him.

If he wasn't married to FD's sister he would have been off this forum board at least a year ago.


the islamists are a major threat to greg and the leftists.
they now appear to be attacking soft targets.
nothing is much softer then gregs brain


Another apologist trying to shift the blame.

How many more of you rightards will come out and defend this killer today?


Allow me to nail it for you, yet again.

We know you condemn the killer, Rick, we all do.

The difference is we want to delve a bit deeper to find out what (if any) were the motivating factors. Was there a support network? Was there some kind of ideology or philosophy which egged him on that may result in yet more incidences like this?

I've googled 'terror France' and there are lots of results for some despicable acts.

What I propose is rather than placing our hands over our eyes and shouting 'oh gosh it happened again' 'oh gosh it happened again.... lets remove our hand from our eyes and analyze what keeps causing these things.

If the answer upsets our sensibilities. so be it.


I've already answered that for you, Gordy: murderers.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Quantum on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:00pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

Quote:
You like Greg "islamgptnuffindodowivnuffin" Peccary deny and refuse to accept the influence of any religious dimension in attacks in which the attackers themselves claim religious inspiration and instruction and find sanction in religious texts. 


If some wa nker stands before a Judge and pleads that the "Devil made me do it Ya 'onor" is he gonna get some discount, and is the Judge then going to vent about the Devil, and how 'he' must be destroyed?

Good luck with that.  No-one can kill off an ideology.  No-one ever has, no-one ever will.


You stop immigrating people who believe the devil makes them do bad shlt, and certainly stop saying that people who believe the devil makes them do bad shlt are peaceful people and it ain't got nothing to do with people who believe the devil makes them do bad shlt.

It doesn't solve all the problems, but it's an obviously good place to start.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:01pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

Quote:
You like Greg "islamgptnuffindodowivnuffin" Peccary deny and refuse to accept the influence of any religious dimension in attacks in which the attackers themselves claim religious inspiration and instruction and find sanction in religious texts. 


If some wa nker stands before a Judge and pleads that the "Devil made me do it Ya 'onor" is he gonna get some discount, and is the Judge then going to vent about the Devil, and how 'he' must be destroyed?

Good luck with that.  No-one can kill off an ideology.  No-one ever has, no-one ever will.


Who is talking about discounts?  I am discussing your and Gregs numbskull contention that people are not influenced by religion.  Though in your case you bump up the stupidity in thinking that fundies are influenced by the bible but cultists are not influenced by their religious texts. 

You cannot debate obstinate idiocy like that.  Best you can do is ridicule such intellectual passivity and bone headed apologism and denial. 

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:59pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:34pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:32pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:29pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:23pm:
You should be kicked off this forum for good.


I totally agree.

His only intention in logging in here is to ruin one thread after the other with an endless series of tit-for-tats with anyone who will play with him.

If he wasn't married to FD's sister he would have been off this forum board at least a year ago.


the islamists are a major threat to greg and the leftists.
they now appear to be attacking soft targets.
nothing is much softer then gregs brain


Another apologist trying to shift the blame.

How many more of you rightards will come out and defend this killer today?


Allow me to nail it for you, yet again.

We know you condemn the killer, Rick, we all do.

The difference is we want to delve a bit deeper to find out what (if any) were the motivating factors. Was there a support network? Was there some kind of ideology or philosophy which egged him on that may result in yet more incidences like this?

I've googled 'terror France' and there are lots of results for some despicable acts.

What I propose is rather than placing our hands over our eyes and shouting 'oh gosh it happened again' 'oh gosh it happened again.... lets remove our hand from our eyes and analyze what keeps causing these things.

If the answer upsets our sensibilities. so be it.


I've already answered that for you, Gordy: murderers.


I think we can do better than that, Greggy. Lets get to the nub of the problem rather than ....
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Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:02pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:01pm:
I am discussing your and Gregs numbskull contention that people are not influenced by religion. 


Link?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:05pm
I'll be watching the news tonight to see how many politicians both here and abroad resort to evasive language and euphemisms rather than use politically unsavoury terms like 'Muslim' and 'Islam/Islamist'.

France's Hollande.

The UK's Theresa May

Hillary Clinton

Obama

Angela Merkel

Malcolm Turnbull


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Quantum on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:08pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:01pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

Quote:
You like Greg "islamgptnuffindodowivnuffin" Peccary deny and refuse to accept the influence of any religious dimension in attacks in which the attackers themselves claim religious inspiration and instruction and find sanction in religious texts. 


If some wa nker stands before a Judge and pleads that the "Devil made me do it Ya 'onor" is he gonna get some discount, and is the Judge then going to vent about the Devil, and how 'he' must be destroyed?

Good luck with that.  No-one can kill off an ideology.  No-one ever has, no-one ever will.


Who is talking about discounts?  I am discussing your and Gregs numbskull contention that people are not influenced by religion.  Though in your case you bump up the stupidity in thinking that fundies are influenced by the bible but cultists are not influenced by their religious texts. 

You cannot debate obstinate idiocy like that.  Best you can do is ridicule such intellectual passivity and bone headed apologism and denial. 


Greg's an interesting case as well.

Blames all the ADF for sexual assaults, but focuses on the individual once Islam is involved.
Blames all bogans for the antisocial behaviour of one person, but focuses on the individual once Islam is involved.
Blames all Christians for the abuse of children, but... Can you guess it? Yes, focuses on the individual once Islam is involved.

Sick troll or a very delusional and confused mind. Either way he is seriously fuked up.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:10pm

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:08pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:01pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

Quote:
You like Greg "islamgptnuffindodowivnuffin" Peccary deny and refuse to accept the influence of any religious dimension in attacks in which the attackers themselves claim religious inspiration and instruction and find sanction in religious texts. 


If some wa nker stands before a Judge and pleads that the "Devil made me do it Ya 'onor" is he gonna get some discount, and is the Judge then going to vent about the Devil, and how 'he' must be destroyed?

Good luck with that.  No-one can kill off an ideology.  No-one ever has, no-one ever will.


Who is talking about discounts?  I am discussing your and Gregs numbskull contention that people are not influenced by religion.  Though in your case you bump up the stupidity in thinking that fundies are influenced by the bible but cultists are not influenced by their religious texts. 

You cannot debate obstinate idiocy like that.  Best you can do is ridicule such intellectual passivity and bone headed apologism and denial. 


Greg's an interesting case as well.

Blames all the ADF for sexual assaults, but focuses on the individual once Islam is involved.
Blames all bogans for the antisocial behaviour of one person, but focuses on the individual once Islam is involved.
Blames all Christians for the abuse of children, but... Can you guess it? Yes, focuses on the individual once Islam is involved.


Starting to make sense now, is it?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:14pm

Quote:
You stop immigrating people...


How about we go back just one step to......stop giving them reasons to emigrate.  Stop the push influence.

Arabia is for Arabs and the West has to get the ferk out of there.

Why are we there?  Why were we ever there?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Quantum on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:10pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:08pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:01pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

Quote:
You like Greg "islamgptnuffindodowivnuffin" Peccary deny and refuse to accept the influence of any religious dimension in attacks in which the attackers themselves claim religious inspiration and instruction and find sanction in religious texts. 


If some wa nker stands before a Judge and pleads that the "Devil made me do it Ya 'onor" is he gonna get some discount, and is the Judge then going to vent about the Devil, and how 'he' must be destroyed?

Good luck with that.  No-one can kill off an ideology.  No-one ever has, no-one ever will.


Who is talking about discounts?  I am discussing your and Gregs numbskull contention that people are not influenced by religion.  Though in your case you bump up the stupidity in thinking that fundies are influenced by the bible but cultists are not influenced by their religious texts. 

You cannot debate obstinate idiocy like that.  Best you can do is ridicule such intellectual passivity and bone headed apologism and denial. 


Greg's an interesting case as well.

Blames all the ADF for sexual assaults, but focuses on the individual once Islam is involved.
Blames all bogans for the antisocial behaviour of one person, but focuses on the individual once Islam is involved.
Blames all Christians for the abuse of children, but... Can you guess it? Yes, focuses on the individual once Islam is involved.


Starting to make sense now, is it?


Oh, so all these BS post about the ADF, Christians, and bogans, for several years now, was just you trying to prove a point in defence of Islam? Well in that case...ii



You're even more f@cked up than I thought!!!

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Quantum on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:22pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:14pm:

Quote:
You stop immigrating people...


How about we go back just one step to......stop giving them reasons to emigrate.  Stop the push influence.

Arabia is for Arabs and the West has to get the ferk out of there.

Why are we there? 


Why are you here?

Arabia for Arabs and Arabs for nowhere else.


Quote:
Why were we ever there?


Because the sand monkeys didn't want to stay in their dunes and tried to take Europe. Not last year, not since the gulf war or even the first world War, but over a millennia ago!

Stop this Muslim victim shlt. If you want to talk "first cause" then Islam and the Arabs have a lot to answer for.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Ajax on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:34pm
How anyone in their right mind can believe that by becoming a martyr and killing innocent people along the way will land them in heaven with 72 virgins just leaves me numb and angry.

Death was too good for this scum bag, should’ve been a life time behind bars.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:48pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:48pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:40pm:
The USA is a large country with 300 million people -
you'd think they'd be able to find someone better than those two numbskulls -
Trump & Hilary.

It would have been worse if the Republican establishment had gotten its wish -- most likely Jeb Bush, who thinks illegal immigration is an "act of love."



Roosevelt locked up all the Japs.

Would Trump lock up all the Mussies?

Why lock them up -- then you have to feed them.

Ideally he'd ship them out. But the Vichy Republicans in Congress would never approve such a thing, so he'd probably have to settle for just keeping out "Syrian" refugees.



But this is war.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:52pm
I blame Islam.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:52pm
I also blame apologists like Greggy.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Ajax on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:53pm
couldn't see posts

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:02pm

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:10pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:08pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:01pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

Quote:
You like Greg "islamgptnuffindodowivnuffin" Peccary deny and refuse to accept the influence of any religious dimension in attacks in which the attackers themselves claim religious inspiration and instruction and find sanction in religious texts. 


If some wa nker stands before a Judge and pleads that the "Devil made me do it Ya 'onor" is he gonna get some discount, and is the Judge then going to vent about the Devil, and how 'he' must be destroyed?

Good luck with that.  No-one can kill off an ideology.  No-one ever has, no-one ever will.


Who is talking about discounts?  I am discussing your and Gregs numbskull contention that people are not influenced by religion.  Though in your case you bump up the stupidity in thinking that fundies are influenced by the bible but cultists are not influenced by their religious texts. 

You cannot debate obstinate idiocy like that.  Best you can do is ridicule such intellectual passivity and bone headed apologism and denial. 


Greg's an interesting case as well.

Blames all the ADF for sexual assaults, but focuses on the individual once Islam is involved.
Blames all bogans for the antisocial behaviour of one person, but focuses on the individual once Islam is involved.
Blames all Christians for the abuse of children, but... Can you guess it? Yes, focuses on the individual once Islam is involved.


Starting to make sense now, is it?


Oh, so all these BS post about the ADF, Christians, and bogans, for several years now, was just you trying to prove a point in defence of Islam?


No.

Are pretending to be this stupid, or is it something that comes naturally?

Seriously - your naivety is astounding.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:04pm

Ajax wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:53pm:
couldn't see posts


If you click the reply button & scroll down you'll see the replies.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Quantum on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:02pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:10pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:08pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:01pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

Quote:
You like Greg "islamgptnuffindodowivnuffin" Peccary deny and refuse to accept the influence of any religious dimension in attacks in which the attackers themselves claim religious inspiration and instruction and find sanction in religious texts. 


If some wa nker stands before a Judge and pleads that the "Devil made me do it Ya 'onor" is he gonna get some discount, and is the Judge then going to vent about the Devil, and how 'he' must be destroyed?

Good luck with that.  No-one can kill off an ideology.  No-one ever has, no-one ever will.


Who is talking about discounts?  I am discussing your and Gregs numbskull contention that people are not influenced by religion.  Though in your case you bump up the stupidity in thinking that fundies are influenced by the bible but cultists are not influenced by their religious texts. 

You cannot debate obstinate idiocy like that.  Best you can do is ridicule such intellectual passivity and bone headed apologism and denial. 


Greg's an interesting case as well.

Blames all the ADF for sexual assaults, but focuses on the individual once Islam is involved.
Blames all bogans for the antisocial behaviour of one person, but focuses on the individual once Islam is involved.
Blames all Christians for the abuse of children, but... Can you guess it? Yes, focuses on the individual once Islam is involved.


Starting to make sense now, is it?


Oh, so all these BS post about the ADF, Christians, and bogans, for several years now, was just you trying to prove a point in defence of Islam?


No.

Are pretending to be this stupid, or is it something that comes naturally?

Seriously - your naivety is astounding.


So you really do believe such things then.

Hold your perverted head high f@cknut.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:07pm

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:02pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:10pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:08pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:01pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

Quote:
You like Greg "islamgptnuffindodowivnuffin" Peccary deny and refuse to accept the influence of any religious dimension in attacks in which the attackers themselves claim religious inspiration and instruction and find sanction in religious texts. 


If some wa nker stands before a Judge and pleads that the "Devil made me do it Ya 'onor" is he gonna get some discount, and is the Judge then going to vent about the Devil, and how 'he' must be destroyed?

Good luck with that.  No-one can kill off an ideology.  No-one ever has, no-one ever will.


Who is talking about discounts?  I am discussing your and Gregs numbskull contention that people are not influenced by religion.  Though in your case you bump up the stupidity in thinking that fundies are influenced by the bible but cultists are not influenced by their religious texts. 

You cannot debate obstinate idiocy like that.  Best you can do is ridicule such intellectual passivity and bone headed apologism and denial. 


Greg's an interesting case as well.

Blames all the ADF for sexual assaults, but focuses on the individual once Islam is involved.
Blames all bogans for the antisocial behaviour of one person, but focuses on the individual once Islam is involved.
Blames all Christians for the abuse of children, but... Can you guess it? Yes, focuses on the individual once Islam is involved.


Starting to make sense now, is it?


Oh, so all these BS post about the ADF, Christians, and bogans, for several years now, was just you trying to prove a point in defence of Islam?


No.

Are pretending to be this stupid, or is it something that comes naturally?

Seriously - your naivety is astounding.


So you really do believe such things then.


Now I'm convinced that you're pretending.

You must be.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:08pm

Quote:
Why are you here?

Arabia for Arabs and Arabs for nowhere else.


If you are trying to say that I am an Arab you are wasting your time.  Fifth generation Aussie of good old Scottish, Pommie and even German stock.



Quote:
Because the sand monkeys didn't want to stay in their dunes and tried to take Europe. Not last year, not since the gulf war or even the first world War, but over a millennia ago!


I agree....except I have never heard of any Arabs being in the Land of European Christians.  But, I could not care less about that.  We caused this current schit, in 1948.


Quote:
Stop this Muslim victim shlt. If you want to talk "first cause" then Islam and the Arabs have a lot to answer for.


And of course good old Whitey was as pure as the driven snow in their many Crusades.

Arabia is for Arabs, and the West should ferk off out of there with our guns and money.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir lastnail on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:51pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:44pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:37pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:32pm:
There is a reason why we never see people blowing up, driving through, shooting dead, or beheading groups of people in the name of Mickey Mouse or the girl guides.


Tell us more.



He did it in the name of Mickey Mouse did he?

Fuking idiot.


He didn't do it "in the name of Islam".

Thus, argument destroyed.

Why do you continue to shift the blame away from murderers?


1 nut job kills people because he is a nut, so that means when 1000 Muslims kill people in the name of Islam it has nothing to do with Islam...

Fuking idiot.


So, the truck driver in France wasn't a nut?

First you shift the blame away from him, and now you openly defend him.

Quite incredible.


didn't you watch 4 corners on Monday ? It is proof that muslims are retarded or have very low IQ.

What 20 yo male with a sound mind would honestly believe that if they murder someone they will get a root in an imaginary heaven as a reward ?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Panther on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:09pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:48pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:48pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:40pm:
The USA is a large country with 300 million people -
you'd think they'd be able to find someone better than those two numbskulls -
Trump & Hilary.

It would have been worse if the Republican establishment had gotten its wish -- most likely Jeb Bush, who thinks illegal immigration is an "act of love."



Roosevelt locked up all the Japs.

Would Trump lock up all the Mussies?

Why lock them up -- then you have to feed them.

Ideally he'd ship them out. But the Vichy Republicans in Congress would never approve such a thing, so he'd probably have to settle for just keeping out "Syrian" refugees.



But this is war.


What are you calling for.......an all out, door to door, mosque to mosque, Guerrilla Warfare against Islam, where prisoners aren't even a consideration???

Are you calling for that???

Specifically, who are you declaring to be the enemy???

War is where enemies are killed.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Quantum on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:07pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:02pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:10pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:08pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:01pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

Quote:
You like Greg "islamgptnuffindodowivnuffin" Peccary deny and refuse to accept the influence of any religious dimension in attacks in which the attackers themselves claim religious inspiration and instruction and find sanction in religious texts. 


If some wa nker stands before a Judge and pleads that the "Devil made me do it Ya 'onor" is he gonna get some discount, and is the Judge then going to vent about the Devil, and how 'he' must be destroyed?

Good luck with that.  No-one can kill off an ideology.  No-one ever has, no-one ever will.


Who is talking about discounts?  I am discussing your and Gregs numbskull contention that people are not influenced by religion.  Though in your case you bump up the stupidity in thinking that fundies are influenced by the bible but cultists are not influenced by their religious texts. 

You cannot debate obstinate idiocy like that.  Best you can do is ridicule such intellectual passivity and bone headed apologism and denial. 


Greg's an interesting case as well.

Blames all the ADF for sexual assaults, but focuses on the individual once Islam is involved.
Blames all bogans for the antisocial behaviour of one person, but focuses on the individual once Islam is involved.
Blames all Christians for the abuse of children, but... Can you guess it? Yes, focuses on the individual once Islam is involved.


Starting to make sense now, is it?


Oh, so all these BS post about the ADF, Christians, and bogans, for several years now, was just you trying to prove a point in defence of Islam?


No.

Are pretending to be this stupid, or is it something that comes naturally?

Seriously - your naivety is astounding.


So you really do believe such things then.


Now I'm convinced that you're pretending.

You must be.


Then explain it. Show everyone how you can hold two contradicting views. Go on now, don't be afraid of being exposed as full of shlt...

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:13pm

Quote:
What 20 yo male with a sound mind would honestly believe that if they murder someone they will get a root in heaven as a reward ?


You make my point and that of Mr Peccary very well and succinctly.

He is just a loser, a dick head, insane if you like, scum bag garden variety murderer, and we ought give him no more credit than that.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:19pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:51pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:44pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:37pm:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:32pm:
There is a reason why we never see people blowing up, driving through, shooting dead, or beheading groups of people in the name of Mickey Mouse or the girl guides.


Tell us more.



He did it in the name of Mickey Mouse did he?

Fuking idiot.


He didn't do it "in the name of Islam".

Thus, argument destroyed.

Why do you continue to shift the blame away from murderers?


1 nut job kills people because he is a nut, so that means when 1000 Muslims kill people in the name of Islam it has nothing to do with Islam...

Fuking idiot.


So, the truck driver in France wasn't a nut?

First you shift the blame away from him, and now you openly defend him.

Quite incredible.


didn't you watch 4 corners on Monday ? It is proof that muslims are retarded or have very low IQ.

What 20 yo male with a sound mind would honestly believe that if they murder someone they will get a root in an imaginary heaven as a reward ?




Yes - I saw that too sir Nail,

They can imagine & believe anything.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:21pm

Panther wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:48pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:48pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:40pm:
The USA is a large country with 300 million people -
you'd think they'd be able to find someone better than those two numbskulls -
Trump & Hilary.

It would have been worse if the Republican establishment had gotten its wish -- most likely Jeb Bush, who thinks illegal immigration is an "act of love."



Roosevelt locked up all the Japs.

Would Trump lock up all the Mussies?

Why lock them up -- then you have to feed them.

Ideally he'd ship them out. But the Vichy Republicans in Congress would never approve such a thing, so he'd probably have to settle for just keeping out "Syrian" refugees.



But this is war.


What are you calling for.......an all out, door to door, mosque to mosque, Guerrilla Warfare against Islam, where prisoners aren't even a consideration???

Are you calling for that???

Specifically, who are you declaring to be the enemy???

War is where enemies are killed.



All radical Islamists - even suspected ones -

need to be locked up for the duration of the war.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:24pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:08pm:
What 20 yo male with a sound mind would honestly believe that if they murder someone they will get a root in an imaginary heaven as a reward ?


None, in my opinion.



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Yadda on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:24pm

Hollande: 'France Is Under the Threat of Islamic Terrorism'



Google;
hollande, france under the threat islamic terrorism



THINK ABOUT WHAT PRESIDENT HOLLANDE SAID.


Hollande: 'France Is Under the Threat of Islamic Terrorism'
= =
If there were no moslems living in France, [logically] there would have been;


No Charlie Hebdo attack.

No Bataclan attack.

No Bastille Day attack in Nice.




So, what is the solution ?

How could we [almost 100%], prevent ISLAMIC terrorist atrocities, by 'rogue' members of the local moslem community ?



Alternatively;

We could keep doing, what we have been doing for the last two decades.



.




I make my arguments here.

------------- >



Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1

Quote:

"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"

- Yadda



QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?


QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],      ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?


QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],     ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?





.




A moslem is a follower of ISLAM.       < -------- dictionary definition.


Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1459586210/51#51

Quote:

QUESTION;


Who or what, is a moslem ???

A moslem is a follower of ISLAM.       < -------- dictionary definition.

And mainstream ISLAM is a philosophy which [within its doctrines, and tenets, and laws] teaches every moslem,        .....that a moslem who murders an enemy of Allah, is a good and virtuous person.



But, what or who, is 'an enemy of Allah' ???

ISLAM [in the Koran] defines anyone who is a disbeliever, as an enemy of Allah!


Seriously,          ......is it any wonder that so many 'nice' people, suddenly buy an airline ticket for Turkey [i.e. Syria], or walk into a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney, or go to the local mosque to obtain a pistol,               .....and then turn into homicidal maniacs ?

No,    ....it isn't.


Because;

Every moslem, is a moslem.





.




CRIMINAL INTENT, IN THE MOSLEM HEART
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1252898491/0#0

Quote:

Every moslem in Australia [and indeed, every moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.


ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against non-moslems ['disbelievers'].


.....Basically, fundamentally, all ISLAMIC doctrine translates as enmity, and encourages [criminal] violence, towards ALL non-moslems.







.



But what about innocent moslems, who live among us, and who preach peaceful co-existence with others?

An 'innocent moslem', is a mythical creature, imo!

-------------- >

IMAGE...


Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami



Quote:

How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior
January 18, 2012

Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong


"...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance.

When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."



Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-islamic-behavior/





Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Yadda on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:26pm
BUMP

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by issuevoter on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:34pm
Get ready folks, this kind of stunt is coming to a street corner near you. And it will not be a Buddhist, or a Jew driving the truck. It'll be one of those Zombies who quotes the Koran and bows to Mecca.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Yadda on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:34pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:24pm:

Hollande: 'France Is Under the Threat of Islamic Terrorism'



Google;
hollande, france under the threat islamic terrorism



THINK ABOUT WHAT PRESIDENT HOLLANDE SAID.


Hollande: 'France Is Under the Threat of Islamic Terrorism'
= =
If there were no moslems living in France, [logically] there would have been;


No Charlie Hebdo attack.

No Bataclan attack.

No Bastille Day attack in Nice.





Hollande: 'France Is Under the Threat of Islamic Terrorism'



Google;
hollande, france under the threat islamic terrorism



THINK ABOUT WHAT PRESIDENT HOLLANDE SAID.

THINK ABOUT WHAT PRESIDENT HOLLANDE SAID.

THINK ABOUT WHAT PRESIDENT HOLLANDE SAID.

x 100     !!!!!!

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by cods on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:36pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:58am:

cods wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:42am:
this is another terrible crime in France.. why France I do not understand.. but there it is....one wonders how this can happen in these days of HIGH ALERT what has happened to security in this country....no warning no warnings at all....isnt that strange??....



The official "High Alert" ran out after the last attack and wasn't renewed, hence more relaxed security on this occasion



I am hoping you are joking.....since Charlie Hebo.it has been one thing after another in France......

and as we all know it attracts many tourists all year round....this guy had a collection of guns and bomb making material in that semi......how come it all went unnoticed..... they seem to know he was radicalised...and was born in Tunisia...how come they can find all this out in a flash yet he seems to be able to commit a crime of this size  before anyone stops him????????????????......

they do know these madmen cannot blow up planes anymore.. so their targets are on the ground.....Bastille day should have had all places swarming with police and army.......yet this guy drove one hell of a long way along the Nice promenade ..before a bullet found him... >:( >:(

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by GLII on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:43pm
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Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by cods on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:24pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:08pm:
What 20 yo male with a sound mind would honestly believe that if they murder someone they will get a root in an imaginary heaven as a reward ?


None, in my opinion.




this is what people do not understand... its the same with cults....

if you tell people what is bad...

in this case... infidels are evil..and hate ISlam and want all Muslims put to death.. then it isnt hard to sell them the rest...

hummmmmmmm 72 virgins....well gotta be a reward on the other side hasnt there...

the mind is a most fertile easy to manipulate piece of material especially in youth.... male youth in particular...

I have always said commonsense is becoming extinct........ ::)

and young men do not have a jot of commonsense....

and dont forget its all secret...

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:51pm

Quote:
and as we all know it attracts many tourists all year round....


I don't know, but I'll take your word for it.


Quote:
this guy had a collection of guns and bomb making material in that semi......how come it all went unnoticed.....


Good question.


Quote:
they seem to know he was radicalised...


You are more up-to-date than anyone else.  Link?


Quote:
and was born in Tunisia...


That is not known.  What has been reported is that there were allegedly some documents in the Truck which referred to some Tunisian.  Might have been the owner of the Truck, stolen by dick-head.  Don't leap to conclusions based on schmedia anecdotal reporting.


Quote:
how come they can find all this out in a flash yet he seems to be able to commit a crime of this size  before anyone stops him????????????????......


See above.


Quote:
they do know these madmen cannot blow up planes anymore.. so their targets are on the ground.....Bastille day should have had all places swarming with police and army.......yet this guy drove one hell of a long way along the Nice promenade ..before a bullet found him...


Again, good question, and yeas the place would have been bristling with what has turned out to be useless security.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Quantum on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:51pm

cods wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:36pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:58am:

cods wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:42am:
this is another terrible crime in France.. why France I do not understand.. but there it is....one wonders how this can happen in these days of HIGH ALERT what has happened to security in this country....no warning no warnings at all....isnt that strange??....



The official "High Alert" ran out after the last attack and wasn't renewed, hence more relaxed security on this occasion



I am hoping you are joking.....since Charlie Hebo.it has been one thing after another in France......

and as we all know it attracts many tourists all year round....this guy had a collection of guns and bomb making material in that semi......how come it all went unnoticed..... they seem to know he was radicalised...and was born in Tunisia...how come they can find all this out in a flash yet he seems to be able to commit a crime of this size  before anyone stops him????????????????......

they do know these madmen cannot blow up planes anymore.. so their targets are on the ground.....Bastille day should have had all places swarming with police and army.......yet this guy drove one hell of a long way along the Nice promenade ..before a bullet found him... >:( >:(


You can't defend against this stuff. Any Muslim can go clickers at any time without any history of terrorism. In fact, as they have a habit of killing themselves in the process of mass murder, there obviously isn't any history of terrorism to go off.

In this particular case, a truck suddenly goes through a crowd. How do you prepare for that? How do you stop that from happening? If you suddenly decided tomorrow to mount the footpath and run down as many people as you can, what could have possibly have been done to prevent that?

Society can only exist on the trust that the person beside you isn't out to kill you. Anyone in any factory or restaurant can drop crushed glass in your food. Anyone driving a car can use it as a weapon. Anyone can just walk up and inject you with bleach if they want. We just have to trust that people won't. The problem with Muslims is that once they are in your country there is a high chance one of them at any time will try this shlt, and there is nothing you can do to prevent it.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:56pm

Quote:
The problem with Muslims is that once they are in your country there is a high chance one of them at any time will try this shlt, and there is nothing you can do to prevent it.


There is you know.  It is something we have never tried.  Get the ferk out of Arabia, and bloody-well stay out.  How about that novel idea, hey?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by cods on Jul 15th, 2016 at 6:01pm

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:51pm:
You can't defend against this stuff. Any Muslim can go clickers at any time without any history of terrorism. In fact, as they have a habit of killing themselves in the process of mass murder, there obviously isn't any history of terrorism to go off.

In this particular case, a truck suddenly goes through a crowd. How do you prepare for that? How do you stop that from happening? If you suddenly decided tomorrow to mount the footpath and run down as many people as you can, what could have possibly have been done to prevent that?

Society can only exist on the trust that the person beside you isn't out to kill you. Anyone in any factory or restaurant can drop crushed glass in your food. Anyone driving a car can use it as a weapon. Anyone can just walk up and inject you with bleach if they want. We just have to trust that people won't. The problem with Muslims is that once they are in your country there is a high chance one of them at any time will try this shlt, and there is nothing you can do to prevent it.




oh I disagree. HIGH ALERT....remember they should be watching .... and this guy accumulated  guns a material to blow things up....he had a semi....he was able to drive it into a very crowded area..... ::) ::)

they know almost everything about him probably before he was killed....

so he must have been on the radar....they say he was radicalised...... for petes sake....

this guy shot people he was shooting for some time.... ::) ::) as well as running them down with a huge truck...

he killed 84.....one man killed 84.....not bad for one cell...


yet he got away with it...

he planned to die...he may have even planned on blowing the truck up....

all I think is.. it took them a long time to take him out...........if he was running through the streets I can say ok.. but he was in a bloody great truck



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Quantum on Jul 15th, 2016 at 6:06pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:56pm:

Quote:
The problem with Muslims is that once they are in your country there is a high chance one of them at any time will try this shlt, and there is nothing you can do to prevent it.


There is you know.  It is something we have never tried.  Get the ferk out of Arabia, and bloody-well stay out.  How about that novel idea, hey?


Would.............. solve............... nothing.

Quite possibly the most naive and ignorant suggestion to the problem of Islamic terrorism ever suggested.

More interesting though, your (laughable) solution is actually an admission that Islam is the issue. I mean, if these guys are just lone nutters with nuffn to do with Islam, why would leaving the Middle East do anything? The nutters are in western countries now and supposedly killing people because they are insane. Insane people wanting to kill people don't give a shlt about international politics. So if leaving the Muslim home lands will stop this crap from happening, then it very much does have sumffn to do with Islam...

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 15th, 2016 at 6:09pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:14pm:

Quote:
You stop immigrating people...


How about we go back just one step to......stop giving them reasons to emigrate.  Stop the push influence.

Arabia is for Arabs and the West has to get the ferk out of there.

Why are we there?  Why were we ever there?


I don't think the Arabs knew what oil was until the Brits, French and others came along and told them they were standing on a fortune. Western technology made their oil valuable, otherwise it was worthless.




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 15th, 2016 at 6:10pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:14pm:

Quote:
You stop immigrating people...


How about we go back just one step to......stop giving them reasons to emigrate.  Stop the push influence.

Arabia is for Arabs and the West has to get the ferk out of there.

Why are we there?  Why were we ever there?


I don't think the Arabs knew what oil was until the Brits, French and others came along and told them they were standing on a fortune. Western technology made their oil valuable, otherwise it was worthless.




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 15th, 2016 at 6:10pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:14pm:

Quote:
You stop immigrating people...


How about we go back just one step to......stop giving them reasons to emigrate.  Stop the push influence.

Arabia is for Arabs and the West has to get the ferk out of there.

Why are we there?  Why were we ever there?


I don't think the Arabs knew what oil was until the Brits, French and others came along and told them they were standing on a fortune. Western technology made their oil valuable, otherwise it was worthless.




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 15th, 2016 at 6:10pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:14pm:

Quote:
You stop immigrating people...


How about we go back just one step to......stop giving them reasons to emigrate.  Stop the push influence.

Arabia is for Arabs and the West has to get the ferk out of there.

Why are we there?  Why were we ever there?


I don't think the Arabs knew what oil was until the Brits, French and others came along and told them they were standing on a fortune. Western technology made their oil valuable, otherwise it was worthless.




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 15th, 2016 at 6:11pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:14pm:

Quote:
You stop immigrating people...


How about we go back just one step to......stop giving them reasons to emigrate.  Stop the push influence.

Arabia is for Arabs and the West has to get the ferk out of there.

Why are we there?  Why were we ever there?


I don't think the Arabs knew what oil was until the Brits, French and others came along and told them they were standing on a fortune. Western technology made their oil valuable, otherwise it was worthless.




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 6:19pm

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 6:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:56pm:

Quote:
The problem with Muslims is that once they are in your country there is a high chance one of them at any time will try this shlt, and there is nothing you can do to prevent it.


There is you know.  It is something we have never tried.  Get the ferk out of Arabia, and bloody-well stay out.  How about that novel idea, hey?


Would.............. solve............... nothing.

Quite possibly the most naive and ignorant suggestion to the problem of Islamic terrorism ever suggested.

More interesting though, your (laughable) solution is actually an admission that Islam is the issue. I mean, if these guys are just lone nutters with nuffn to do with Islam, why would leaving the Middle East do anything? The nutters are in western countries now and supposedly killing people because they are insane. Insane people wanting to kill people don't give a shlt about international politics. So if leaving the Muslim home lands will stop this crap from happening, then it very much does have sumffn to do with Islam...


It would remove any excuse I can come up with.  Arabs get pissed orf that we are in their Lands and they get hairy chested about it, just like I hope you would if some foreign lot were beating the schit out of Australia.

How about we give it a burl, ey?

Arabia is for Arabs and the rest can ferk orf.  Who gets hurt if that happens?  Why are we there?



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 15th, 2016 at 6:31pm

What is france going to do about muslims ?

Apart from saying rubbish and walking around with flowers that is ............

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 6:33pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 6:31pm:
What is france going to do about muslims ?

Apart from saying rubbish and walking around with flowers that is ............


How about you answer your own question.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 15th, 2016 at 6:51pm


Quote:
...........Putin said.

The Russian leader stressed the need to “eradicate or neutralise militants and their ideologues wherever they are hiding” and promised that Russia is ready for the “closest cooperation with France and other international partners in all areas of fighting terrorism,” the Kremlin said............




aussie - I've decided to ignore you

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:09pm


Quote:
Quote:
.........................July 14, 2016: A yet-to-be identified driver ploughed a truck into a mass of Bastille Day spectators and fired rounds at them along the famed Promenade des Anglais seafront in Nice. At least 80 people were killed and many more wounded.

June 13, 2016: Convicted terrorist Larossi Abballa stabs two married police officers in their home in Magnanville in an attack claimed by IS. Abballa holds the couple’s three-year-old son hostage and live streams the murder of his parents to Facebook before police storm the home and rescue the child.

November 13, 2015: IS terrorists simultaneously attack public sites in Paris, killing 130 and wounding more than 350 in the worst attack on France’s soil since World War II. IS claims responsibility, calling the attacks the “first of the storm.”

August 21, 2015: Ayoub El Kahzani boards a Thalys train from Amsterdam to France armed with a Kalashnikov assault rifle, pistol, ammunition, and a box cutter. Two US servicemen and two Europeans observed the suspect preparing to attack and intervened, preventing the suspect from inflicting what French President Francois Hollande said could have been “a true carnage.” El Kahzani was kept on an international watch list and had reportedly travelled to Syria in 2014.

April 19, 2015: Algerian extremist Sid Ahmed Glam attempts to gun down a church in the suburbs of Paris.

June 26, 2015: Yassine Salhi, drives into an American-owned gas factory in southeastern France.

He throws gas canisters in the yard outside, and decapitates a man (Salhi’s boss), covering the victim’s head in the Muslim declaration of faith, “There is no God but God and Muhammad is his prophet.” A flag emblazoned with Islamist inscriptions is found at the site of the attack.

January 7, 2015 — January 9, 2015: Brothers Cherif and Said Kouachi launch a deadly assault on the offices of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, killing 12 in the name of al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP). The Charlie Hebdo attack is the deadliest on French soil in more than 50 years. In the days following the attack, gunman Amedy Coulibaly goes on a shooting rampage, killing a policewoman before taking and killing hostages at a kosher supermarket in the name of IS.

May 24, 2014: French-born jihadist Mehdi Nemmouche kills four at a Jewish Museum in Brussels.

May 25, 2013: Muslim convert and Islamist Alexandre Dhaussy stabs a French soldier in a suburb of Paris.

March 2012: Gunman Mohammed Merah goes on shooting spree in southern France, killing seven.

November 2, 2011: Charlie Hebdo offices are firebombed.

2009 — 2011: Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) kidnaps a number of French citizens.

Sources: Christian Science Monitor, National, Al Arabiya, France24

October 2002: A bomb explodes next to a French tanker in Yemen, killing one crew member.

May 2002: A bomb explodes in Karachi, killing 11 French navy experts.

December 3, 1996: A bomb explodes at Port Royal station in Paris, killing two and wounding seven.

October 1995: On October 6, a bomb explodes at a metro station in Paris, injuring 12.

On October 17, a bomb explodes in a train in Paris, injuring 29.

September 1995: On September 3, a bomb explodes in an open-air market in Paris, injuring four.

On September 4, police find an unexploded bomb in a public toilet in Charles Vallin square in Paris. On September 7, a car bomb explodes near a Jewish school in Lyons, wounding 14.

August 1995: On August 17, GIA bombs Paris’s Arc de Triomphe, wounding 17.

On August 26, police find an unexploded bomb on a railway track near Lyons.

July 1995: On July 11, The GIA assassinates Muslim cleric Abdelbaki Sahraoui at a mosque in northern Paris.

On July 25, a bomb claimed by the GIA explodes at the Saint-Michel metro station in Paris, killing eight and injuring around 150.

December 24, 1994: The GIA hijacks Air France Flight 8969 and kills three hostages before France’s GIGN storm the aircraft in Marseilles, freeing the remaining passengers.

1983: Hezbollah bombs French Marine Barracks in Beirut, killing 58 French service members.

August 1982: Gunmen open fire and throw grenades at a restaurant in the Jewish quarter of Paris, killing six and wounding 22.

June 18, 1961: The OAS bombs a train, killing 28............


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/world/why-france-has-become-the-epicentre-of-...

this is just in france

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:13pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 6:51pm:

Quote:
...........Putin said.

The Russian leader stressed the need to “eradicate or neutralise militants and their ideologues wherever they are hiding” and promised that Russia is ready for the “closest cooperation with France and other international partners in all areas of fighting terrorism,” the Kremlin said............




aussie - I've decided to ignore you


Someone better put a suicide watch on me, quick.  How can I cope!

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Panther on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:21pm:

Panther wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 5:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 4:48pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:48pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 2:40pm:
The USA is a large country with 300 million people -
you'd think they'd be able to find someone better than those two numbskulls -
Trump & Hilary.

It would have been worse if the Republican establishment had gotten its wish -- most likely Jeb Bush, who thinks illegal immigration is an "act of love."



Roosevelt locked up all the Japs.

Would Trump lock up all the Mussies?

Why lock them up -- then you have to feed them.

Ideally he'd ship them out. But the Vichy Republicans in Congress would never approve such a thing, so he'd probably have to settle for just keeping out "Syrian" refugees.



But this is war.


What are you calling for.......an all out, door to door, mosque to mosque, Guerrilla Warfare against Islam, where prisoners aren't even a consideration???

Are you calling for that???

Specifically, who are you declaring to be the enemy???

War is where enemies are killed.



All radical Islamists - even suspected ones -

need to be locked up for the duration of the war.

That could end up being forever.....

Don't you think that the bleeding hearts of the Left will eventually convince enough politicians to do the "Politically Correct" thing, & release them back out into the wild?

Look how many Obama has & wants to release from Guantanamo Bay.....

What would be a more humane/permanent resolution to the problem.....life locked up until Islamic terror no longer exists is a bit extreme, no?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Fireball on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:19pm
My daughter has just emailed me from Southern France to say she wasn't in Nice at the time of this attack and that she's okay. I had contacted the British Foreign Office who got in touch with her.

I've been worried all day, but I am now so relieved.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Honky on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:19pm
Getting out of arabia and leaving it for the arabs could be part of the solution.  The part you're not mentioning is that we have to lock the door behind us. 

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:22pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:09pm:

Quote:
Quote:
.........................July 14, 2016: A yet-to-be identified driver ploughed a truck into a mass of Bastille Day spectators and fired rounds at them along the famed Promenade des Anglais seafront in Nice. At least 80 people were killed and many more wounded.

June 13, 2016: Convicted terrorist Larossi Abballa stabs two married police officers in their home in Magnanville in an attack claimed by IS. Abballa holds the couple’s three-year-old son hostage and live streams the murder of his parents to Facebook before police storm the home and rescue the child.

November 13, 2015: IS terrorists simultaneously attack public sites in Paris, killing 130 and wounding more than 350 in the worst attack on France’s soil since World War II. IS claims responsibility, calling the attacks the “first of the storm.”

August 21, 2015: Ayoub El Kahzani boards a Thalys train from Amsterdam to France armed with a Kalashnikov assault rifle, pistol, ammunition, and a box cutter. Two US servicemen and two Europeans observed the suspect preparing to attack and intervened, preventing the suspect from inflicting what French President Francois Hollande said could have been “a true carnage.” El Kahzani was kept on an international watch list and had reportedly travelled to Syria in 2014.

April 19, 2015: Algerian extremist Sid Ahmed Glam attempts to gun down a church in the suburbs of Paris.

June 26, 2015: Yassine Salhi, drives into an American-owned gas factory in southeastern France.

He throws gas canisters in the yard outside, and decapitates a man (Salhi’s boss), covering the victim’s head in the Muslim declaration of faith, “There is no God but God and Muhammad is his prophet.” A flag emblazoned with Islamist inscriptions is found at the site of the attack.

January 7, 2015 — January 9, 2015: Brothers Cherif and Said Kouachi launch a deadly assault on the offices of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, killing 12 in the name of al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP). The Charlie Hebdo attack is the deadliest on French soil in more than 50 years. In the days following the attack, gunman Amedy Coulibaly goes on a shooting rampage, killing a policewoman before taking and killing hostages at a kosher supermarket in the name of IS.

May 24, 2014: French-born jihadist Mehdi Nemmouche kills four at a Jewish Museum in Brussels.

May 25, 2013: Muslim convert and Islamist Alexandre Dhaussy stabs a French soldier in a suburb of Paris.

March 2012: Gunman Mohammed Merah goes on shooting spree in southern France, killing seven.

November 2, 2011: Charlie Hebdo offices are firebombed.

2009 — 2011: Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) kidnaps a number of French citizens.

Sources: Christian Science Monitor, National, Al Arabiya, France24

October 2002: A bomb explodes next to a French tanker in Yemen, killing one crew member.

May 2002: A bomb explodes in Karachi, killing 11 French navy experts.

December 3, 1996: A bomb explodes at Port Royal station in Paris, killing two and wounding seven.

October 1995: On October 6, a bomb explodes at a metro station in Paris, injuring 12.

On October 17, a bomb explodes in a train in Paris, injuring 29.

September 1995: On September 3, a bomb explodes in an open-air market in Paris, injuring four.

On September 4, police find an unexploded bomb in a public toilet in Charles Vallin square in Paris. On September 7, a car bomb explodes near a Jewish school in Lyons, wounding 14.

August 1995: On August 17, GIA bombs Paris’s Arc de Triomphe, wounding 17.

On August 26, police find an unexploded bomb on a railway track near Lyons.

July 1995: On July 11, The GIA assassinates Muslim cleric Abdelbaki Sahraoui at a mosque in northern Paris.

On July 25, a bomb claimed by the GIA explodes at the Saint-Michel metro station in Paris, killing eight and injuring around 150.

December 24, 1994: The GIA hijacks Air France Flight 8969 and kills three hostages before France’s GIGN storm the aircraft in Marseilles, freeing the remaining passengers.

1983: Hezbollah bombs French Marine Barracks in Beirut, killing 58 French service members.

August 1982: Gunmen open fire and throw grenades at a restaurant in the Jewish quarter of Paris, killing six and wounding 22.

June 18, 1961: The OAS bombs a train, killing 28............


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/world/why-france-has-become-the-epicentre-of-...

this is just in france


Not particularly relevant....so.........this, and just in New Zealand.



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:24pm

... wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:19pm:
Getting out of arabia and leaving it for the arabs could be part of the solution.  The part you're not mentioning is that we have to lock the door behind us. 


Dunno how that can be dealt with, but first things first.  It is the only way out of this mess, for starters.



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Fireball on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:26pm
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Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Honky on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:35pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:24pm:

... wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:19pm:
Getting out of arabia and leaving it for the arabs could be part of the solution.  The part you're not mentioning is that we have to lock the door behind us. 


Dunno how that can be dealt with, but first things first.  It is the only way out of this mess, for starters.


They managed (mostly) for 1400 years, and you don't know how arabs can be kept out of the west?




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The Mechanic on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:36pm
gweggy/mothballs try and tell us that HE is employed full time..

but when there's a stinking islamist attack on decent peace loving people..

they are all over this forum like stink on shyt..

nothing but a welfare bludging Islamic **** who takes great joy in watching children being run down by trucks..

what a queer ******* ****..

you need a bullet in your head like Angela Markel you piece of **** ..  >:(

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:37pm

... wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:35pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:24pm:

... wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:19pm:
Getting out of arabia and leaving it for the arabs could be part of the solution.  The part you're not mentioning is that we have to lock the door behind us. 


Dunno how that can be dealt with, but first things first.  It is the only way out of this mess, for starters.


They managed (mostly) for 1400 years, and you don't know how arabs can be kept out of the west?


Well.....let's remove the push factor, ey?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Honky on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:41pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:37pm:

... wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:35pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:24pm:

... wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:19pm:
Getting out of arabia and leaving it for the arabs could be part of the solution.  The part you're not mentioning is that we have to lock the door behind us. 


Dunno how that can be dealt with, but first things first.  It is the only way out of this mess, for starters.


They managed (mostly) for 1400 years, and you don't know how arabs can be kept out of the west?


Well.....let's remove the push factor, ey?


And just rely on the good nature of the arab that they don't follow us through, with their on eyes on the prize they've been coveting for the last 1400 years?

I think you need to think this through a bit more aussie.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Panther on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:42pm

... wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:19pm:
Getting out of arabia and leaving it for the arabs could be part of the solution.  The part you're not mentioning is that we have to lock the door behind us. 


With so many worms out of the can already?

What about them?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:43pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:37pm:

... wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:35pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:24pm:

... wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:19pm:
Getting out of arabia and leaving it for the arabs could be part of the solution.  The part you're not mentioning is that we have to lock the door behind us. 


Dunno how that can be dealt with, but first things first.  It is the only way out of this mess, for starters.


They managed (mostly) for 1400 years, and you don't know how arabs can be kept out of the west?


Well.....let's remove the push factor, ey?


How about we just remove the factor?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Honky on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:45pm

Panther wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:42pm:

... wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:19pm:
Getting out of arabia and leaving it for the arabs could be part of the solution.  The part you're not mentioning is that we have to lock the door behind us. 


With so many worms out of the can already?

What about them?



It's far from ideal, but there is no perfect solution.  You can't undo decades of treasonous folly in one go. 

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:46pm

Quote:
And just rely on the good nature of the arab that they don't follow us through, with their on eyes on the prize they've been coveting for the last 1400 years?


What prize is that?  The Statute of Liberty, Ayers Rock, London Bridge, Taj Mahal......whaaaaat?


Quote:
I think you need to think this through a bit more aussie.


At least I am further down the "thinking through" track than most here are.  All they are offering is a useless beating a chests.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:49pm

Panther wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:42pm:

... wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:19pm:
Getting out of arabia and leaving it for the arabs could be part of the solution.  The part you're not mentioning is that we have to lock the door behind us. 


With so many worms out of the can already?

What about them?


What about them?  If their motivation is neutralised (Arabia is for Arabs) there goes the problem.

What are you offering as the solution?  The West keep blasting the schit out of Arabs and rocks in Arabia?  Yeah, that's worked, hasn't it.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Honky on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:50pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:46pm:

Quote:
And just rely on the good nature of the arab that they don't follow us through, with their on eyes on the prize they've been coveting for the last 1400 years?


What prize is that?  The Statute of Liberty, Ayers Rock, London Bridge, Taj Mahal......whaaaaat?


Territory outside the classical islamic world.  The West.


Quote:
I think you need to think this through a bit more aussie.


At least I am further down the "thinking through" track than most here are.  All they are offering is a useless beating a chests.[/quote]

No, I think you're stuck about 10 years behind.  Yours was the one dimensional view every schmuck had around the 9/11 era, but the worlds changed and you haven't. 

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Baronvonrort on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:55pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:49pm:

Panther wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:42pm:

... wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:19pm:
Getting out of arabia and leaving it for the arabs could be part of the solution.  The part you're not mentioning is that we have to lock the door behind us. 


With so many worms out of the can already?

What about them?


What about them?  If their motivation is neutralised (Arabia is for Arabs) there goes the problem.


The Boston bombers were Chechens, when did the USA attack the Chechens Arsie?

Are the Chechens Arabs?

Is the Blonde haired blue eyed Jihad Jane who is in jail on terror charges an Arab?

Apart from racist buzzwords have you really thought about what the cause is or do you blame Arabs when this Nice attacker was from Africa.

Stick to driving taxis Arsie you are not qualified for anything else.





Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:59pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:19pm:
My daughter has just emailed me from Southern France to say she wasn't in Nice at the time of this attack and that she's okay. I had contacted the British Foreign Office who got in touch with her.

I've been worried all day, but I am now so relieved.


Wow! That's great news, Fireball.

It could have been my niece in that crowd, because every year for yonkers now she's gone off for an overseas trip somewhere. It's Russian Roulette for overseas holiday-makers nowadays.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by cods on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:02pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:19pm:
My daughter has just emailed me from Southern France to say she wasn't in Nice at the time of this attack and that she's okay. I had contacted the British Foreign Office who got in touch with her.

I've been worried all day, but I am now so relieved.




I am glad for you....how those who are receiving the worst kind of news are doing I dread to think..the ripple affect from these attacks goes on for ever doesnt it>>,,,I am sure it will be a long time before you get the feeling you have had before your daughter got in touch.....and your ended well..

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:03pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:55pm:
Stick to driving taxis Arsie you are not qualified for anything else.


If it was up to me I would have his taxi licence revoked so he has to pull a rickshaw to earn a living.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Black Orchid on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:17pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:19pm:
My daughter has just emailed me from Southern France to say she wasn't in Nice at the time of this attack and that she's okay. I had contacted the British Foreign Office who got in touch with her.

I've been worried all day, but I am now so relieved.


That's really great news.  You must have been terribly worried.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:20pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:03pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:55pm:
Stick to driving taxis Arsie you are not qualified for anything else.


If it was up to me I would have his taxi licence revoked so he has to pull a rickshaw to earn a living.


Yeas, you are so tolerant of anyone who disagrees with you Herbert, we know.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:24pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:49pm:

Panther wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:42pm:

... wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:19pm:
Getting out of arabia and leaving it for the arabs could be part of the solution.  The part you're not mentioning is that we have to lock the door behind us. 


With so many worms out of the can already?

What about them?


What about them?  If their motivation is neutralised (Arabia is for Arabs) there goes the problem.


The Boston bombers were Chechens, when did the USA attack the Chechens Arsie?

Are the Chechens Arabs?

Is the Blonde haired blue eyed Jihad Jane who is in jail on terror charges an Arab?

Apart from racist buzzwords have you really thought about what the cause is or do you blame Arabs when this Nice attacker was from Africa.

Stick to driving taxis Arsie you are not qualified for anything else.


Is he also ok with the Tamales being booted out of Sri Lanka?  The rohingya out of Myanmar?  The Hmong out of VN Nth highlands? 

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:27pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:49pm:

Panther wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:42pm:

... wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:19pm:
Getting out of arabia and leaving it for the arabs could be part of the solution.  The part you're not mentioning is that we have to lock the door behind us. 


With so many worms out of the can already?

What about them?


What about them?  If their motivation is neutralised (Arabia is for Arabs) there goes the problem.


The Boston bombers were Chechens, when did the USA attack the Chechens Arsie?

Are the Chechens Arabs?

Is the Blonde haired blue eyed Jihad Jane who is in jail on terror charges an Arab?

Apart from racist buzzwords have you really thought about what the cause is or do you blame Arabs when this Nice attacker was from Africa.

Stick to driving taxis Arsie you are not qualified for anything else.

Good points all. In that same vein, we have to ask ourselves what the thousands of mostly young men and women who leave their home countries all over the globe to join ISIS have in common -- are they all Arabs, did they all come from countries that were bombed by the United States, or pray tell, might they have -- umm -- something else in common?

Certainly the 9/11 attacks weren't in direct response to any U.S. bombing campaign. Nor was bin Laden the poster boy for the typical leftist excuse about terrorists being hardened by an impoverished, hopeless existence. No, it's about radical ideology, not lack of economic opportunity.

Just a few of the inconvenient truths that surround the kind of terrorism that's currently plaguing Western civilization.

Of course, some of us have already figured out the "root cause" -- particularly conservative commentator Ann Coulter:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/06/29/ann-coulter-hidden-fact-predicts-terrorism/


Quote:
After the July 7, 2005, London subway bombing by Muslim terrorists that killed 52 people, the British MI5 undertook its own highly sophisticated study, examining hundreds of cases. But the UK’s security agency discovered that terrorists are a wildly diverse lot. They worshipped at a variety of different mosques, for example.

Some terrorists were very religious Muslims and some barely practicing. Most were men, but some were women. There were young and old terrorists, highly educated as well as uneducated, some loners and some married with children.

So, according to MI5, the predictive power of every factor is very low — other than: Is a Muslim.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:30pm

Quote:
Yours was the one dimensional view every schmuck had around the 9/11 era, but the worlds changed and you haven't.


Indeed, the World has dramatically changed since then.  Are you seriously contending that change has been for the better?

Seriously?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Honky on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:34pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:30pm:

Quote:
Yours was the one dimensional view every schmuck had around the 9/11 era, but the worlds changed and you haven't.


Indeed, the World has dramatically changed since then.  Are you seriously contending that change has been for the better?

Seriously?


Why does it matter whether one person thinks it is better or worse?  The bottom line is that the world has changed.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:35pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:20pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:03pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 7:55pm:
Stick to driving taxis Arsie you are not qualified for anything else.


If it was up to me I would have his taxi licence revoked so he has to pull a rickshaw to earn a living.


Yeas, you are so tolerant of anyone who disagrees with you Herbert, we know.


It's actually not a bad job, Aussie. You could start up a franchise up there on the Gold Coast with several of you taking tourists for little tours around the place in the holiday season.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:39pm
The Yankee Journalist Penguin comes up with pearler!


Quote:
Certainly the 9/11 attacks weren't in direct response to any U.S. bombing campaign.


Schit no.  Just a mere invasion into Arabia by the West based on some Arab -v- Arab schit fight which led to Desert Storm into Arabia by ........drum roll.....................guess who!

Penguins was it?

Must have been penguins.  That's why the Arabs blew up the South Pole.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:57pm
Here's how to make a new friend out of an Al Qaeda terrorist, as explained by Osama bin Laden in 2002. It's really very simple -- just follow his instructions and avoid offending his people by making mistakes like these again:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver


Quote:
What are we calling you to, and what do we want from you?

(1) The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam ... It is the religion of showing kindness to others, establishing justice between them, granting them their rights, and defending the oppressed and the persecuted. It is the religion of enjoining the good and forbidding the evil with the hand, tongue and heart.


Dang, if only we'd realized back then how easy it was to get along with Muslim terrorists. All we have to do is convert to Islam!

Then there's this:


Quote:
(2) The second thing we call you to, is to stop your oppression, lies, immorality and debauchery that has spread among you.

(a) We call you to be a people of manners, principles, honour, and purity; to reject the immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling's, and trading with interest.


You heard Osama: It's time to start throwing gays off rooftops and stoning adulterous women ... in the name of  "the religion of showing kindness to others."

And no more of that "trading with interest" crap!

Who's with me?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:08pm

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:23am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:17am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:08am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:22am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:00am:

Quantum wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:58am:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:53am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:49am:
The UK Daily Mail.


link





Yes the Daily Mail. That's what we need now.


Take your smug snobbish lefty BS elsewhere. People are looking for information and the mail happens to have some. WTF!




I'll wait for less inflammatory sources.

I'm watching ABC news breakfast at the moment.

They stull haven't called it.


A more apologetic source?




You have a better source? BBC aren't calling it. How come you are?


I know you're begging and praying that it's not your chosen ones. The perp has not been identified yet but it's pretty safe to assume how this will play out.

Local politician Christian Estrosi said the truck was loaded with arms and grenades.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-15/nice-truck-attack-up-to-60-dead/7631392



However it plays out, you made the claim that IS had taken responsibility.

That was a lie.

Why lie, Gordy?


This made me sad all day.  :'(

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:16pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:08pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:23am:
[

However it plays out, you made the claim that IS had taken responsibility.

That was a lie.

Why lie, Gordy?


This made me sad all day.  :'(

Check this out: 
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/who-mohamed-lahouaiej-bouhlel-what-8425647


Quote:
The name of the suspect has now been identified as Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel.

His ID card found in the truck shows he is a 31-year-old French man of Tunisian descent.

He was known to police in connection with common law crimes such as theft and violence.

Investigating sources said his last appearance in court was as recently as March, when he was found guilty of violent conduct.

As reported by Nice Matin, he worked as a delivery driver.

So the terrorist's first name was Mohamed.

Gosh, what are the odds?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:16pm

Quote:
We call you to be a people of manners, principles, honour, and purity; to reject the immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling's, and trading with interest.


What a bastard!  Gee, the West never rejects immoral acts of fornication (Australia 1975) homosexuality (there was the death penalty in Australia up to 1949) intoxicants (we are as I type controlling that) gamblings (we have just had an Election and it seems those who will hold the balance of power where it counts - in The Senate - also want to 'reject' it with restrictions) trading with interest.  (We also control that...and if my memory from Sunday School is still working......didn't some son of a Virgin get all hairy chested about usury in some joint or other?)

8-)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:24pm

Quote:
His ID card found in the truck shows he is a 31-year-old French man of Tunisian descent.


As I have already said ~ amateur hour.  What else explains being a tool and carrying genuine ID on you when you murder people.

Ergo ~ was it genuine?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by issuevoter on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:29pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:24pm:

Quote:
His ID card found in the truck shows he is a 31-year-old French man of Tunisian descent.


As I have already said ~ amateur hour.  What else explains being a tool and carrying genuine ID on you when you murder people.

Ergo ~ was it genuine?


I would bet money that he considered the rampage a suicide mission. Muzlims are big into the death wish. They figure they are going to paradise, especially if the kill infidels.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:29pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:16pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:08pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:23am:
[

However it plays out, you made the claim that IS had taken responsibility.

That was a lie.

Why lie, Gordy?


This made me sad all day.  :'(

Check this out: 
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/who-mohamed-lahouaiej-bouhlel-what-8425647


Quote:
The name of the suspect has now been identified as Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel.

His ID card found in the truck shows he is a 31-year-old French man of Tunisian descent.

He was known to police in connection with common law crimes such as theft and violence.

Investigating sources said his last appearance in court was as recently as March, when he was found guilty of violent conduct.

As reported by Nice Matin, he worked as a delivery driver.

So the terrorist's first name was Mohamed.

Gosh, what are the odds?


The thing is I haven’t mentioned IS.

In guess I'll have to view everything Mothra writes with a big dose of scepticism.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:30pm
Bring back the rope & hang radical Islamists from every lamp post.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDgZiyfRIdU

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:31pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:24pm:

Quote:
His ID card found in the truck shows he is a 31-year-old French man of Tunisian descent.


As I have already said ~ amateur hour.  What else explains being a tool and carrying genuine ID on you when you murder people.

Ergo ~ was it genuine?


Lucky he wasn't a pro.  He'd have got what,  800?
Would that give more weight to your dogmatic mantra of narnia for oompah loompas?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:35pm

Quote:
In guess I'll have to view everything Mothra writes with a big dose of scepticism.


Yet, so far, you are batting 1000 having backed the fake Ophthalmologist with her fake Lawyer Husband and fake daughter, and....best of all...the absolutely genuine Lisa Jones.

Well done, Penguin.  'Onya.

Anyone would be forgiven for thinking you were cherry picking for an erudite cheer squad.   If you were, I reckon you've absolutely nailed it so far.  Nicole Page 2016, Herbie, BO, Neferti and Lisa Jones.  Quite a harvest there Champ!


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:35pm
Good question on SBS -

how did the driver get through 3 road blocks during a state of emergency?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:42pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:35pm:
Good question on SBS -

how did the driver get through 3 road blocks during a state of emergency?


I've already indirectly adverted to that.  They're in a State of Emergency.....biggest day of the celebratory year in France.....high density crowds everywhere especially there in Nice, and this murdering scum bag gets through (whatever he got through) with a truck (allegedly) carrying an arsenal.

Huh?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:46pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:35pm:
Good question on SBS -

how did the driver get through 3 road blocks during a state of emergency?


I've already indirectly adverted to that.  They're in a State of Emergency.....biggest day of the celebratory year in France.....high density crowds everywhere especially there in Nice, and this murdering scum bag gets through (whatever he got through) with a truck (allegedly) carrying an arsenal.

Huh?



That will the biggest question of all.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:49pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:30pm:
Bring back the rope & hang radical Islamists from every lamp post.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDgZiyfRIdU


What about the rest of their bloodline ?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:49pm

issuevoter wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:24pm:

Quote:
His ID card found in the truck shows he is a 31-year-old French man of Tunisian descent.


As I have already said ~ amateur hour.  What else explains being a tool and carrying genuine ID on you when you murder people.

Ergo ~ was it genuine?


I would bet money that he considered the rampage a suicide mission. Muzlims are big into the death wish. They figure they are going to paradise, especially if the kill infidels.

Pretty obvious he wanted to be listed as a martyr in the next edition of Dibiq hence the ID card but the least intelligent among us are crying fitup.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:51pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:46pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:35pm:
Good question on SBS -

how did the driver get through 3 road blocks during a state of emergency?


I've already indirectly adverted to that.  They're in a State of Emergency.....biggest day of the celebratory year in France.....high density crowds everywhere especially there in Nice, and this murdering scum bag gets through (whatever he got through) with a truck (allegedly) carrying an arsenal.

Huh?



That will the biggest question of all.


Nice hasn't had any terrorism to date.
Complacency.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:53pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:35pm:

Quote:
In guess I'll have to view everything Mothra writes with a big dose of scepticism.


Yet, so far, you are batting 1000 having backed the fake Ophthalmologist with her fake Lawyer Husband and fake daughter, and....best of all...the absolutely genuine Lisa Jones.

Well done, Penguin.  'Onya.


I don't back anyone.  If perchance even your good self says something I agree with, so be it but I have a feeling I'll be waiting......and waiting........ :D

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:05pm

Quote:
I would bet money that he considered the rampage a suicide mission. Muzlims are big into the death wish. They figure they are going to paradise, especially if the kill infidels.


I disagree with your broad brush approach......this murdering scum bag may have believed in Leprechauns, and even Tooth Fairies, even rewards.  Best thing we can do is tell him and any idiot mates he might have ....... you are kidding yourself, you are not worth the time of day, just ferk off into dust or worm meal.

But.......while we have apologists who give these loser turds a meaning for their pathetic existence beyond naked criminality, there will be more ferkers seeking the same attention.

Oxygen/deny.

Any chance of that????  You have to be joking.  The real Fourth Estate cannot do without it.

Arseholes.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Frank on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:10pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

Quote:
I would bet money that he considered the rampage a suicide mission. Muzlims are big into the death wish. They figure they are going to paradise, especially if the kill infidels.


I disagree with your broad brush approach......this murdering scum bag may have believed in Leprechauns, and even Tooth Fairies, even rewards.  Best thing we can do is tell him and any idiot mates he might have ....... you are kidding yourself, you are not worth the time of day, just ferk off into dust or worm meal.

But.......while we have apologists who give these loser turds a meaning for their pathetic existence beyond naked criminality, there will be more ferkers seeking the same attention.

Oxygen/deny.

Any chance of that????  You have to be joking.  The real Fourth Estate cannot do without it.

Arseholes.



It is about Islam. Yes, Islamic asreholes. But the point is ISLAM  - arseholes is just the quaifier.


Don't fudge.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:13pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:30pm:
Bring back the rope & hang radical Islamists from every lamp post.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDgZiyfRIdU


What about the rest of their bloodline ?



What if a real judge in a real court asked you to be the hangman?

The job pays well - $800 for each successful hanging.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:18pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:13pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:30pm:
Bring back the rope & hang radical Islamists from every lamp post.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDgZiyfRIdU


What about the rest of their bloodline ?



What if a real judge in a real court asked you to be the hangman?

The job pays well - $800 for each successful hanging.


wow - $20,000+  per day

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:22pm

Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

Quote:
I would bet money that he considered the rampage a suicide mission. Muzlims are big into the death wish. They figure they are going to paradise, especially if the kill infidels.


I disagree with your broad brush approach......this murdering scum bag may have believed in Leprechauns, and even Tooth Fairies, even rewards.  Best thing we can do is tell him and any idiot mates he might have ....... you are kidding yourself, you are not worth the time of day, just ferk off into dust or worm meal.

But.......while we have apologists who give these loser turds a meaning for their pathetic existence beyond naked criminality, there will be more ferkers seeking the same attention.

Oxygen/deny.

Any chance of that????  You have to be joking.  The real Fourth Estate cannot do without it.

Arseholes.



It is about Islam. Yes, Islamic asreholes. But the point is ISLAM  - arseholes is just the quaifier.


Don't fudge.


I won't.  The Fourth Estate are a bunch of arseholes whose sole intent these days is commercial, and nothing else.  If you believe otherwise, I have a bridge to sell you....like the cheap whore they have become.

Arseholes.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Honky on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:23pm

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:39pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:13pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:30pm:
Bring back the rope & hang radical Islamists from every lamp post.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDgZiyfRIdU


What about the rest of their bloodline ?



What if a real judge in a real court asked you to be the hangman?

The job pays well - $800 for each successful hanging.


wow - $20,000+  per day



You want to hang 25 per day? - a bit greedy!

How about 10 Islamic radicals for every innocent person that one of their kind murders -
to be taken at random from the jail cells?

That would teach them respect.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:49pm
Sir Bobby - it seems we work on a different scale.

I said $20K + a day.

this 10 for 1 idealism  does not wash.


get the assembly line rolling.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:54pm
Having read a few earlier posts on this thread, the general thrust seems to be  KILL them.

NOW personally, I don't think these IS attacks have ANYTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM.

Islam is no more violent a religion than Christianity is. 

NO.   NO -- IS  is not being run by religious believers...  There MAY BE some demented souls who THINK they are speaking for ISLAM, but they are NOT.

IS is a haven for PSYCHOPATHS. 
They are drawn in like foxes discovering a henhouse. They seek destruction and anarchy,    NOTHING MORE. 

TO BLAME all Muslims is simply an act of ignorance, and proposals to kill them ALL is a similar psycho response.  >:( :( No winners there friends.

THIS whole issue is not about religion. It is about power.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:55pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:49pm:
Sir Bobby - it seems we work on a different scale.

I said $20K + a day.

this 10 for 1 idealism  does not wash.


get the assembly line rolling.




You mean railway carriages & shower rooms at the end of the line?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by John Smith on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:01pm

Emma wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:54pm:
Having read a few earlier posts on this thread, the general thrust seems to be  KILL them.

NOW personally, I don't think these IS attacks have ANYTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM.

Islam is no more violent a religion than Christianity is. 

NO.   NO -- IS  is not being run by religious believers...  There MAY BE some demented souls who THINK they are speaking for ISLAM, but they are NOT.

IS is a haven for PSYCHOPATHS. 
They are drawn in like foxes discovering a henhouse. They seek destruction and anarchy,    NOTHING MORE. 

TO BLAME all Muslims is simply an act of ignorance, and proposals to kill them ALL is a similar psycho response.  >:( :( No winners there friends.

THIS whole issue is not about religion. It is about power.



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:04pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:55pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:49pm:
Sir Bobby - it seems we work on a different scale.

I said $20K + a day.

this 10 for 1 idealism  does not wash.


get the assembly line rolling.




You mean railway carriages & shower rooms at the end of the line?


Its got a track record

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Yadda on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:28pm

Emma wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:54pm:
Having read a few earlier posts on this thread, the general thrust seems to be  KILL them.

NOW personally, I don't think these IS attacks have ANYTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM.

Islam is no more violent a religion than Christianity is. 

NO.   NO -- IS  is not being run by religious believers...  There MAY BE some demented souls who THINK they are speaking for ISLAM, but they are NOT.

IS is a haven for PSYCHOPATHS. 
They are drawn in like foxes discovering a henhouse. They seek destruction and anarchy,    NOTHING MORE. 

TO BLAME all Muslims is simply an act of ignorance, and proposals to kill them ALL is a similar psycho response.  >:( :( No winners there friends.

THIS whole issue is not about religion. It is about power.



God damn you.

....for propagating and spreading such lies.




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:29pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:24pm:

Quote:
His ID card found in the truck shows he is a 31-year-old French man of Tunisian descent.


As I have already said ~ amateur hour.  What else explains being a tool and carrying genuine ID on you when you murder people.

Ergo ~ was it genuine?


The truck was rented.  You'd need solid ID to rent a big truck and you'd want it handy if the police pulled you over for a check. But please,  continue this avenue of enquiry.  It amuses me.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:28pm:

Emma wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:54pm:
Having read a few earlier posts on this thread, the general thrust seems to be  KILL them.

NOW personally, I don't think these IS attacks have ANYTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM.

Islam is no more violent a religion than Christianity is. 

NO.   NO -- IS  is not being run by religious believers...  There MAY BE some demented souls who THINK they are speaking for ISLAM, but they are NOT.

IS is a haven for PSYCHOPATHS. 
They are drawn in like foxes discovering a henhouse. They seek destruction and anarchy,    NOTHING MORE. 

TO BLAME all Muslims is simply an act of ignorance, and proposals to kill them ALL is a similar psycho response.  >:( :( No winners there friends.

THIS whole issue is not about religion. It is about power.



God damn you.

....for propagating and spreading such lies.


You are welcome. :)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Yadda on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:24pm:

Quote:
His ID card found in the truck shows he is a 31-year-old French man of Tunisian descent.


As I have already said ~ amateur hour.  What else explains being a tool and carrying genuine ID on you when you murder people.

Ergo ~ was it genuine?


The truck was rented. 


You'd need solid ID to rent a big truck


and you'd want it handy if the police pulled you over for a check. But please,  continue this avenue of enquiry.  It amuses me.




Unless the truck was stolen.

The guy had a criminal record.

???



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Yadda on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:36pm

Emma wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:28pm:

Emma wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:54pm:
Having read a few earlier posts on this thread, the general thrust seems to be  KILL them.

NOW personally, I don't think these IS attacks have ANYTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM.

Islam is no more violent a religion than Christianity is. 

NO.   NO -- IS  is not being run by religious believers...  There MAY BE some demented souls who THINK they are speaking for ISLAM, but they are NOT.

IS is a haven for PSYCHOPATHS. 
They are drawn in like foxes discovering a henhouse. They seek destruction and anarchy,    NOTHING MORE. 

TO BLAME all Muslims is simply an act of ignorance, and proposals to kill them ALL is a similar psycho response.  >:( :( No winners there friends.

THIS whole issue is not about religion. It is about power.



God damn you.

....for propagating and spreading such lies.



You are welcome. :)




On your own head, be it then.



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:39pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:24pm:

Quote:
His ID card found in the truck shows he is a 31-year-old French man of Tunisian descent.


As I have already said ~ amateur hour.  What else explains being a tool and carrying genuine ID on you when you murder people.

Ergo ~ was it genuine?


The truck was rented. 


You'd need solid ID to rent a big truck


and you'd want it handy if the police pulled you over for a check. But please,  continue this avenue of enquiry.  It amuses me.




Unless the truck was stolen.

The guy had a criminal record.

???


Reading reports it was rented. 

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:42pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:36pm:

Emma wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:28pm:

Emma wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:54pm:
Having read a few earlier posts on this thread, the general thrust seems to be  KILL them.

NOW personally, I don't think these IS attacks have ANYTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM.

Islam is no more violent a religion than Christianity is. 

NO.   NO -- IS  is not being run by religious believers...  There MAY BE some demented souls who THINK they are speaking for ISLAM, but they are NOT.

IS is a haven for PSYCHOPATHS. 
They are drawn in like foxes discovering a henhouse. They seek destruction and anarchy,    NOTHING MORE. 

TO BLAME all Muslims is simply an act of ignorance, and proposals to kill them ALL is a similar psycho response.  >:( :( No winners there friends.

THIS whole issue is not about religion. It is about power.



God damn you.

....for propagating and spreading such lies.



You are welcome. :)




On your own head, be it then.

Indeed, so it is, and so it shall be... NO GOD has a say in my life.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:46pm
Poor Yadda  obsessed as ever.

Do you wear a hair-shirt and flagellate yourself.?
Just interested in how far you take it, you know.?



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:48pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:39pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:24pm:

Quote:
His ID card found in the truck shows he is a 31-year-old French man of Tunisian descent.


As I have already said ~ amateur hour.  What else explains being a tool and carrying genuine ID on you when you murder people.

Ergo ~ was it genuine?


The truck was rented. 


You'd need solid ID to rent a big truck


and you'd want it handy if the police pulled you over for a check. But please,  continue this avenue of enquiry.  It amuses me.




Unless the truck was stolen.

The guy had a criminal record.

???


Reading reports it was rented. 



Not only that -

this must have been carefully planned -
one lamp post would have stopped that truck.
Somehow he knew how to get past 3 road blocks & bypass every lamp post along the side walks.

My bet is that he had accomplices radioing ahead to tell him what he faced at all the road blocks.

Many radicals need to be rounded up & questioned.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Yadda on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:52pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:39pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 9:24pm:

Quote:
His ID card found in the truck shows he is a 31-year-old French man of Tunisian descent.


As I have already said ~ amateur hour.  What else explains being a tool and carrying genuine ID on you when you murder people.

Ergo ~ was it genuine?


The truck was rented. 


You'd need solid ID to rent a big truck


and you'd want it handy if the police pulled you over for a check. But please,  continue this avenue of enquiry.  It amuses me.




Unless the truck was stolen.

The guy had a criminal record.

???



Reading reports it was rented. 



Gordon,

Ah!

Yes.



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by ozzyoi on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:54pm
I don't know anymore....
There comes a time when survival for the common good takes it's own course.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Yadda on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:00am

Emma wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:42pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:36pm:

Emma wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:34pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:28pm:

Emma wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:54pm:
Having read a few earlier posts on this thread, the general thrust seems to be  KILL them.

NOW personally, I don't think these IS attacks have ANYTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM.

Islam is no more violent a religion than Christianity is. 

NO.   NO -- IS  is not being run by religious believers...  There MAY BE some demented souls who THINK they are speaking for ISLAM, but they are NOT.

IS is a haven for PSYCHOPATHS. 
They are drawn in like foxes discovering a henhouse. They seek destruction and anarchy,    NOTHING MORE. 

TO BLAME all Muslims is simply an act of ignorance, and proposals to kill them ALL is a similar psycho response.  >:( :( No winners there friends.

THIS whole issue is not about religion. It is about power.



God damn you.

....for propagating and spreading such lies.



You are welcome. :)




On your own head, be it then.


Indeed, so it is, and so it shall be...

NO GOD has a say in my life.



:)


So certain are you.


Myself, i do not know what is.


"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
Hamlet, William Shakespeare



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:11am
Indeed, I have no argument with Shakespeare.

I will repeat it if you like.?

'Heaven' in context.. seems to mean to you .. the religious realm... BUT personally I view it another way... 

Heaven, in the terms in use back then, just as easily reference the Sun and stars in the sky.

YOU and your like choose to think he means GOD'S HEAVEN  AKA NIRVANA  etc  :)

when I think he means to suggest that the pervading philosophy, Christianity, in his time, did not embrace a wider understanding of the Universe.  SO ?  NOT a reference to that closed realm in which you dwell, at all.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Yadda on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:22am

Emma wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:46pm:
Poor Yadda  obsessed as ever.

Do you wear a hair-shirt and flagellate yourself.?



No.

My God only requires that in this life, i should try to seperate the precious from the vile.

That, i should discriminate.




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:33am
So who decides..?  YOU.?  OR GOD.  ( via the Bible.. presumably)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Yadda on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:33am

Emma wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:11am:
Indeed, I have no argument with Shakespeare.

I will repeat it if you like.?

'Heaven' in context.. seems to mean to you .. the religious realm... BUT personally I view it another way... 

Heaven, in the terms in use back then, just as easily reference the Sun and stars in the sky.

YOU and your like choose to think he means GOD'S HEAVEN  AKA NIRVANA  etc  :)

when I think he means to suggest that the pervading philosophy, Christianity, in his time, did not embrace a wider understanding of the Universe.  SO ?  NOT a reference to that closed realm in which you dwell, at all.



Heaven ?

Is a gift.

It is, life, in the presence of my creator.

It is real,       ....e.g. it is more real,         .....than that thing you call 'life', it is more real than what you experience, in being 'awake'.


But hey, walk your path.

Whatever spins your wheel.




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:48am
yep.. its YOUR life. You walk your path.. and you decide.  :)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:19am

Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:10pm:
It is about Islam. Yes, Islamic asreholes. But the point is ISLAM  - arseholes is just the quaifier.


Don't fudge.

Really, Frank, at this point it's become more of a game than an intellectual argument for lefties to look at recent instances of terrorism in France and pretend they can't see a pattern.

Check out Wikipedia's list of terrorist attacks in France throughout history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_France

Notice that from 2012 until the day before yesterday, there had been 15 terrorist attacks large and small, and in every one of them, the attacker(s) had some connection to an Islamic cause. Now comes the 16th, perpetrated by a guy named Mohamed.

But hey, lots of Muslims have personal problems that cause them to get violent, rent a truck and mow down several dozen people during a public celebration. Doing so doesn't necessarily indicate that our latest Mohamed was connected to any bigger Islamic cause or anything. 

Similarly, the fact that an American Southerner in the early 1900s might have engaged in the lynching of black men while wearing a white robe and a pointy hat doesn't necessarily indicate that he belonged to the Ku Klux Klan. He might have just been doing some freelance lynching and was wearing the white clothes because he found them stylish and comfortable, right?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:07am

Emma wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:54pm:
Having read a few earlier posts on this thread, the general thrust seems to be  KILL them.

NOW personally, I don't think these IS attacks have ANYTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM.

Islam is no more violent a religion than Christianity is. 

NO.   NO -- IS  is not being run by religious believers...  There MAY BE some demented souls who THINK they are speaking for ISLAM, but they are NOT.

IS is a haven for PSYCHOPATHS. 
They are drawn in like foxes discovering a henhouse. They seek destruction and anarchy,    NOTHING MORE. 

TO BLAME all Muslims is simply an act of ignorance, and proposals to kill them ALL is a similar psycho response.  >:( :( No winners there friends.

THIS whole issue is not about religion. It is about power.


retard

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by issuevoter on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:33am
One of the worst aspects of all these Muzlim atrocities, is that a great portion of Western populations are beginning to see them as inevitable. Islam is winning its war.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:39am
This time the French don't lose:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrJQ3Q9E7bs

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:32am

issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:33am:
One of the worst aspects of all these Muzlim atrocities, is that a great portion of Western populations are beginning to see them as inevitable. Islam is winning its war.

It doesn't help that we have knee-jerk defenders of Islam. Or maybe they just hate Christianity so much that they're programmed to respond this way.

At any rate, here's something I would hope no leader of my country would ever say:

Prime Minister Manuel Valls: “We will not give in to the terrorist threat. The times have changed and France is going to have to live with terrorism.

LIVE WITH terrorism? If that's your stance, the terrorists have already won.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:40am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:48pm:

Many radicals need to be rounded up & questioned.

Start with the mosques. Every one of them should get probed from stem to stern. Any found to be in possession of weapons should be closed immediately and all mosque officials (if not members) deported immediately.

France also needs to quit playing pat-a-cake with radical imams and shady characters on the terrorist watch list. If there's even a shred of evidence that they've been preaching sedition or associating with known terrorists, ship them back to whatever Middle East orifice they crawled out of. 

Then close the borders. Keep tabs on French citizens leaving for known terrorist hot spots and deny them re-entry. Refuse any additional Muslim refugees and deport the ones who are seeking asylum there.

Harsh? Yes, but even more so is the fact that there have been 16 terrorist attacks in France since 2012, and every one of them has been done in the name of Islam. Misbehaving guests need to leave the party -- through the door or through the window.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Baronvonrort on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:46am

Emma wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:54pm:
Having read a few earlier posts on this thread, the general thrust seems to be  KILL them.

NOW personally, I don't think these IS attacks have ANYTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM.

Islam is no more violent a religion than Christianity is. 

NO.   NO -- IS  is not being run by religious believers...  There MAY BE some demented souls who THINK they are speaking for ISLAM, but they are NOT.

IS is a haven for PSYCHOPATHS. 
They are drawn in like foxes discovering a henhouse. They seek destruction and anarchy,    NOTHING MORE. 

TO BLAME all Muslims is simply an act of ignorance, and proposals to kill them ALL is a similar psycho response.  >:( :( No winners there friends.

THIS whole issue is not about religion. It is about power.


If Islamic terror has nothing to do with Islam why did Qadri need 600 pages for his fatwa to outlaw Islamic terror?

::) ::)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by issuevoter on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:47am
Well that's a relief. The authorities are reporting Mohamed, the truck driver, was just a petty criminal with no Islamic connections.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Yadda on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:35am

issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:47am:
Well that's a relief. The authorities are reporting Mohamed, the truck driver, was just a petty criminal with no Islamic connections.



issuev,

This latest atrocity in Nice, France, has got nothing to do with ISLAM.




In the wake of the atrocity in Nice;


Hollande has announced:

France is going to fight against 'the enemies of freedom'.



Well that is a relief!      /sarc off

I am sure that 'the enemies of freedom' will be shaking in their boots.  !!!




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Ajax on Jul 16th, 2016 at 10:05am

Emma wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 10:54pm:
Having read a few earlier posts on this thread, the general thrust seems to be  KILL them.

NOW personally, I don't think these IS attacks have ANYTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM.

Islam is no more violent a religion than Christianity is. 

NO.   NO -- IS  is not being run by religious believers...  There MAY BE some demented souls who THINK they are speaking for ISLAM, but they are NOT.

IS is a haven for PSYCHOPATHS. 
They are drawn in like foxes discovering a henhouse. They seek destruction and anarchy,    NOTHING MORE. 

TO BLAME all Muslims is simply an act of ignorance, and proposals to kill them ALL is a similar psycho response.  >:( :( No winners there friends.

THIS whole issue is not about religion. It is about power.


Well said......................... 8-)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:06am

issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:33am:
One of the worst aspects of all these Muzlim atrocities, is that a great portion of Western populations are beginning to see them as inevitable. Islam is winning its war.


Oh yes.

Definitely winning the war - and that's by invitation of the West's Political Left liberal-progressives.

All I heard on the TV news last night was the use of the No Name Brand generic "Terrorism" and "Terrorists". God forbid this should have anything to do with Islam, or Muslim immigrants.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Nicole Page 2016 on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:12am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:06am:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:33am:
One of the worst aspects of all these Muzlim atrocities, is that a great portion of Western populations are beginning to see them as inevitable. Islam is winning its war.


Oh yes.

Definitely winning the war - and that's by invitation of the West's Political Left liberal-progressives.

All I heard on the TV news last night was the use of the No Name Brand generic "Terrorism" and "Terrorists". God forbid this should have anything to do with Islam.


Trump uses the words "radical Islamic terrorism". He's a lone wolf in a PC dominated western world.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:21am

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:12am:
Trump uses the words "radical Islamic terrorism". He's a lone wolf in a PC dominated western world.


Come November he might be voted into the Oval Office over the head of Hillary.

Politicians in high places must start to confront this ever-growing monster elephant-in-the-room before it's too late to do anything.

Withdrawing the Western forces from the Middle East must be the first priority before all else. No more nonsense about Western soldiers still being there to train the locals in how to hold a gun. That BS has worn way too thin.




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Nicole Page 2016 on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:26am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:21am:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:12am:
Trump uses the words "radical Islamic terrorism". He's a lone wolf in a PC dominated western world.


Come November he might be voted into the Oval Office over the head of Hillary.

Politicians in high places must start to confront this ever-growing monster elephant-in-the-room before it's too late to do anything.

Withdrawing the Western forces from the Middle East must be the first priority before all else. No more nonsense about Western soldiers still being there to train the locals in how to hold a gun. That BS has worn way too thin.


Regarding your last sentence, that was my view. But it's changed.

If he's elected, Trump wants to declare war and hit ISIS hard. I agree. And it should be noted in this context that Trump has been critical of bush jnrs invasion of Iraq

Different ball game now.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by cods on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:32am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:21am:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:12am:
Trump uses the words "radical Islamic terrorism". He's a lone wolf in a PC dominated western world.


Come November he might be voted into the Oval Office over the head of Hillary.

Politicians in high places must start to confront this ever-growing monster elephant-in-the-room before it's too late to do anything.

Withdrawing the Western forces from the Middle East must be the first priority before all else. No more nonsense about Western soldiers still being there to train the locals in how to hold a gun. That BS has worn way too thin.



I thought he was going to build a WALL.....

has he changed his mind?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by NorthOfNorth on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:46am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:21am:
Withdrawing the Western forces from the Middle East must be the first priority before all else. No more nonsense about Western soldiers still being there to train the locals in how to hold a gun. That BS has worn way too thin.

Absolutely.

If we learn nothing more from history, let it be this - Religion is ineradicable.

The notion that the west is going to confront and 'wipe out' Islam is so dangerously naive as to warrant disqualification from political office of anyone who believes that delusion.

Peoples fight hardest for what they hold sacred... The Irish largely surrendered their language over 400 years but fought to the death to keep their faith. The English (and later the British) fought for 300+ years to eradicate Catholicism in England / Britain. The Catholic Europeans fought for 300+ years to eradicate Protestantism from Europe. The Protestant Europeans fought for 300+ years to eradicate Catholicism.

Islam is a religion and a political ideology (no need to have a royal commission to establish that... Nobody doubts it) and is fanatically and murderously defended in a way that Henry VIII, Mary I and Oliver Cromwell would have recognised.

Jihadists are fighting an asymmetric battle to goad the west into an overreach of Armageddon's proportion. They know (as we should know from history) an attempt to eradicate a major religion will trigger a medieval-style 'Holy War' only this time both sides will be using 21st century weapons.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Honky on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:03pm

issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:47am:
Well that's a relief. The authorities are reporting Mohamed, the truck driver, was just a petty criminal with no Islamic connections.


Yes that is a relief.  They might have had to classify the 84 dead as victims of islamic terrorism and that would look bad statistically.

Better hope nobody asks if a lone nut with no ties can kill 84 inmocents, what sort of bodycount could an organized bunch of fanatics achieve?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:04pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:48pm:

Many radicals need to be rounded up & questioned.

Start with the mosques. Every one of them should get probed from stem to stern. Any found to be in possession of weapons should be closed immediately and all mosque officials (if not members) deported immediately.

France also needs to quit playing pat-a-cake with radical imams and shady characters on the terrorist watch list. If there's even a shred of evidence that they've been preaching sedition or associating with known terrorists, ship them back to whatever Middle East orifice they crawled out of. 

Then close the borders. Keep tabs on French citizens leaving for known terrorist hot spots and deny them re-entry. Refuse any additional Muslim refugees and deport the ones who are seeking asylum there.

Harsh? Yes, but even more so is the fact that there have been 16 terrorist attacks in France since 2012, and every one of them has been done in the name of Islam. Misbehaving guests need to leave the party -- through the door or through the window.



Either that or large concentration camps.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by cods on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:09pm

issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:47am:
Well that's a relief. The authorities are reporting Mohamed, the truck driver, was just a petty criminal with no Islamic connections.




what is islamic?????....

are they saying he isnt /wasnt a Muslim?....

we have invented a few words now to describe terrorism..... and they seem to be misused...

terrorists come from all walks of life....and until one writes a book on what makes a terrorist....we can only guess cant we?>.

lets not forget the days of yore when burning witches was the norm.....and mass head loping in the market square was legal......

this was not that long ago..... sub humans have always had evil intentions...

we read history and say that could never happen today... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Black Orchid on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:13pm
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"

Edmund Burke

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Nicole Page 2016 on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:18pm
Flip

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by cods on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:18pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:13pm:
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"

Edmund Burke



we seem to be doing something... just not quick enough to stop anything.....

we seem to have more luck in this country.....so far a few have been arrested b efore they blow something up...maybe we are lucky enough not to be surrounded by this hatred.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Nicole Page 2016 on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:20pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:13pm:
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"

Edmund Burke


Well said.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Black Orchid on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:28pm

cods wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:18pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:13pm:
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"

Edmund Burke



we seem to be doing something... just not quick enough to stop anything.....

we seem to have more luck in this country.....so far a few have been arrested b efore they blow something up...maybe we are lucky enough not to be surrounded by this hatred.


We aren't doing anything except tossing many more millions of $$$ at them.  $$$ to try to identify the worst and keep us safe from them.  More $$$ to try to de-radicalise those that can never be de-radicalised and the idea of stopping potential terrorists from leaving to fight in Syria was ludicrous.  We should have let them all go and then closed the door tight so they could never return.  Instead we kept them here to fester.

Our luck is going to run out.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:04pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:48pm:

Many radicals need to be rounded up & questioned.

Start with the mosques. Every one of them should get probed from stem to stern. Any found to be in possession of weapons should be closed immediately and all mosque officials (if not members) deported immediately.

France also needs to quit playing pat-a-cake with radical imams and shady characters on the terrorist watch list. If there's even a shred of evidence that they've been preaching sedition or associating with known terrorists, ship them back to whatever Middle East orifice they crawled out of. 

Then close the borders. Keep tabs on French citizens leaving for known terrorist hot spots and deny them re-entry. Refuse any additional Muslim refugees and deport the ones who are seeking asylum there.

Harsh? Yes, but even more so is the fact that there have been 16 terrorist attacks in France since 2012, and every one of them has been done in the name of Islam. Misbehaving guests need to leave the party -- through the door or through the window.



Either that or large concentration camps.


X 3

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Nicole Page 2016 on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:33pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

cods wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:18pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:13pm:
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
The
Edmund Burke



we seem to be doing something... just not quick enough to stop anything.....

we seem to have more luck in this country.....so far a few have been arrested b efore they blow something up...maybe we are lucky enough not to be surrounded by this hatred.


We aren't doing anything except tossing many more millions of $$$ at them.  $$$ to try to identify the worst and keep us safe from them.  More $$$ to try to de-radicalise those that can never be de-radicalised and the idea of stopping potential terrorists from leaving to fight in Syria was ludicrous.  We should have let them all go and then closed the door tight so they could never return.  Instead we kept them here to fester.

Our luck is going to run out.


Not to mention that - in Victoria at least - they're seriously talking about implementing de-radicalisation programs in primary schools.

If that doesn't tell you that importing Muslims is a bad idea, I don't know what does.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Baronvonrort on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:40pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:33pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

cods wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:18pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:13pm:
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
The
Edmund Burke



we seem to be doing something... just not quick enough to stop anything.....

we seem to have more luck in this country.....so far a few have been arrested b efore they blow something up...maybe we are lucky enough not to be surrounded by this hatred.


We aren't doing anything except tossing many more millions of $$$ at them.  $$$ to try to identify the worst and keep us safe from them.  More $$$ to try to de-radicalise those that can never be de-radicalised and the idea of stopping potential terrorists from leaving to fight in Syria was ludicrous.  We should have let them all go and then closed the door tight so they could never return.  Instead we kept them here to fester.

Our luck is going to run out.


Not to mention that - in Victoria at least - they're seriously talking about implementing de-radicalisation programs in primary schools.

If that doesn't tell you that importing Muslims is a bad idea, I don't know what does.


If the apologists like Brian,Mothra and Little pecca insist Islam has nothing to do with Islamic terror can they explain why we are spending more than $10 million a year in deradicalisation  programs for muslims.





Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Black Orchid on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:53pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:33pm:
Not to mention that - in Victoria at least - they're seriously talking about implementing de-radicalisation programs in primary schools.


I believe they are planning that in NSW too, alongside the ridiculous Safe Schools Program.   I wonder what happened to the government's Radicalisation Awareness Kit that was to be passed out in schools and cited 'green activism' and 'alternative music' as links to terrorism?

Meanwhile students who have been a part of the de-radicalisation program for over a year have been arrested for conspiring to plot a terrorist attack (big fail) and our kids' education overall is continuing to slip down the gurgler.


Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:33pm:
If that doesn't tell you that importing Muslims is a bad idea, I don't know what does.


Our government (left and right) has a lot to answer for and, hopefully, answer they will.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:14pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:33pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

cods wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:18pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:13pm:
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
The
Edmund Burke



we seem to be doing something... just not quick enough to stop anything.....

we seem to have more luck in this country.....so far a few have been arrested b efore they blow something up...maybe we are lucky enough not to be surrounded by this hatred.


We aren't doing anything except tossing many more millions of $$$ at them.  $$$ to try to identify the worst and keep us safe from them.  More $$$ to try to de-radicalise those that can never be de-radicalised and the idea of stopping potential terrorists from leaving to fight in Syria was ludicrous.  We should have let them all go and then closed the door tight so they could never return.  Instead we kept them here to fester.

Our luck is going to run out.


Not to mention that - in Victoria at least - they're seriously talking about implementing de-radicalisation programs in primary schools.

If that doesn't tell you that importing Muslims is a bad idea, I don't know what does.

Funny how we never have to de-radicalize Hindus. Or Buddhists. Or, for that matter, Jehovah's Witnesses.

Only Muslims.

Which makes about as much sense as saying, "We don't agree with the KKK's hatred of black people, so let's allow 10,000 of them into our country -- and then try to convince them they're wrong."

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by cods on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:15pm
I dont think any govt could have foreseen what we are seeing today.... so dont lets start blaming the govt...

again we do have to look at who is doing the radicalising in the first place......we allow the book shops to sell just about anything.. the politically correct have made it quite clear we have to live with them.. not them live with us..

its pathetic...these young people are being got at....its no different to the drug pushers.....they are bending their minds.. just as drugs do... for all we know they may even be giving these young people drugs to win them  over in the first place..

we are like sitting ducks... because someone may criticise us......

god forbid..



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:21pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:14pm:
Which makes about as much sense as saying, "We don't agree with the KKK's hatred of black people, so let's allow 10,000 of them into our country -- and then try to convince them they're wrong."


- All members of the KKK hate black people.

- Not all Muslims are radicalised, though.

See where you went wrong there?

You allowed your irrational fear & hatred of all things 'different' to get in the way of your rational thought processes.

I've noticed that happens a lot with you.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by issuevoter on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:23pm

cods wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
I dont think any govt could have foreseen what we are seeing today.... so dont lets start blaming the govt...

again we do have to look at who is doing the radicalising in the first place......we allow the book shops to sell just about anything.. the politically correct have made it quite clear we have to live with them.. not them live with us..

its pathetic...these young people are being got at....its no different to the drug pushers.....they are bending their minds.. just as drugs do... for all we know they may even be giving these young people drugs to win them  over in the first place..

we are like sitting ducks... because someone may criticise us......

god forbid..


Radicalization is a myth. It is used by the liberal media to defelect attention away from the ugliness written in the Koran that Muzlims study and bow down to. Every time there is a Muzlim atrocity, we need to hit back harder, in the communities that produce the Martyrs.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:23pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:26am:
Regarding your last sentence, that was my view. But it's changed.

If he's elected, Trump wants to declare war and hit ISIS hard. I agree. And it should be noted in this context that Trump has been critical of bush jnrs invasion of Iraq

Different ball game now.


ISIS, like al-Qaeda, is a floating crap game. The Afghanistan experience is a clear demonstration of how Western forces can do no more than teach the local militia how to hold a gun and defend their cities and towns against the insurgents. Once that's been achieved, Western troops should be recalled home - lock, stock, and barrel.

It's been 15 years since the West put boots on the ground over there in Afghanistan, and not only are the terrorist groups stronger than ever, but apparently 15-goddamned-years hasn't been enough time to drill the locals into some semblance of being a respectable militia ...

... and while all this expensive and life-costing bullshit has been going on for a staggering 15 years - (three times longer than the Second World War) - hundreds of young Afghani men of military age have been migrating to the West to take up jobs as taxi-drivers, Supermarket trolley-boys, security guards, and dole-queue 'clients'.





Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:25pm

cods wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
I dont think any govt could have foreseen what we are seeing today.... so dont lets start blaming the govt...

again we do have to look at who is doing the radicalising in the first place......we allow the book shops to sell just about anything.. the politically correct have made it quite clear we have to live with them.. not them live with us..

its pathetic...these young people are being got at....its no different to the drug pushers.....they are bending their minds.. just as drugs do... for all we know they may even be giving these young people drugs to win them  over in the first place..

we are like sitting ducks... because someone may criticise us......

god forbid..

Well, I suspect that quite a few politically correct, multiculturalist French people woke up with a different attitude toward Islam this morning.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Nicole Page 2016 on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:26pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:40pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:33pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

cods wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:18pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:13pm:
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
The
Edmund Burke



we seem to be doing something... just not quick enough to stop anything.....

we seem to have more luck in this country.....so far a few have been arrested b efore they blow something up...maybe we are lucky enough not to be surrounded by this hatred.


We aren't doing anything except tossing many more millions of $$$ at them.  $$$ to try to identify the worst and keep us safe from them.  More $$$ to try to de-radicalise those that can never be de-radicalised and the idea of stopping potential terrorists from leaving to fight in Syria was ludicrous.  We should have let them all go and then closed the door tight so they could never return.  Instead we kept them here to fester.

Our luck is going to run out.


Not to mention that - in Victoria at least - they're seriously talking about implementing de-radicalisation programs in primary schools.

If that doesn't tell you that importing Muslims is a bad idea, I don't know what does.


If the apologists like Brian,Mothra and Little pecca insist Islam has nothing to do with Islamic terror can they explain why we are spending more than $10 million a year in deradicalisation  programs for muslims.


I'm new here and still working out the forum personalities.

Greg is a troll and not worth wasting keystrokes on.

I have dealt with Brian for over ten years on other forums. And in thread after thread, I've seen him beaten so badly he resembles Rodney King - but he just keeps coming back for more. I had to change my own tune when my leftwinger ideals were confronted with logic. Brian hasn't managed this, so he's either a troll or a person of low intelligence.

Mothra, at this point, I have respect for - not because I believe she is right, but because she strikes me as genuine.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:29pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:26pm:
I'm new here and still working out the forum personalities.


You need to work out a lot more than that, sweetheart.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:29pm

issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:23pm:
Radicalization is a myth. It is used by the liberal media to defelect attention away from the ugliness written in the Koran that Muzlims study and bow down to. Every time there is a Muzlim atrocity, we need to hit back harder, in the communities that produce the Martyrs.

We need to simply start deporting the radical imams instead of tolerating their sedition. Send them back to the sand pit they crawled out of.

And how many times have you heard about murdering French terrorists who had been "on the radar"? Here's a novel idea: Change the laws to make it easier to rid the country of terrorist suspects that are guilty of even minor crimes. If they don't have citizenship, use their criminal records as a pretext to deport them.

Sure beats wasting money and resources on trying to keep an eye on them.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:33pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:23pm:
ISIS, like al-Qaeda, is a floating crap game. The Afghanistan experience is a clear demonstration of how Western forces can do no more than teach the local militia how to hold a gun and defend their cities and towns against the insurgents. Once that's been achieved, Western troops should be recalled home - lock, stock, and barrel.

Exactly. No more nation building -- just get the job done and get out.

That's what should be happening in Syria right now: NATO forces should be pounding ISIS's so-called capital -- and any other buildings used by these savages -- into rubble.

Al-Baghdadi is elusive, but everybody has to be somewhere. Plug enough mouse holes and the rodents run out of safe havens.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:35pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 12:04pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 11:48pm:

Many radicals need to be rounded up & questioned.

Start with the mosques. Every one of them should get probed from stem to stern. Any found to be in possession of weapons should be closed immediately and all mosque officials (if not members) deported immediately.

France also needs to quit playing pat-a-cake with radical imams and shady characters on the terrorist watch list. If there's even a shred of evidence that they've been preaching sedition or associating with known terrorists, ship them back to whatever Middle East orifice they crawled out of. 

Then close the borders. Keep tabs on French citizens leaving for known terrorist hot spots and deny them re-entry. Refuse any additional Muslim refugees and deport the ones who are seeking asylum there.

Harsh? Yes, but even more so is the fact that there have been 16 terrorist attacks in France since 2012, and every one of them has been done in the name of Islam. Misbehaving guests need to leave the party -- through the door or through the window.



Either that or large concentration camps.


X 3



Stalin or Hitler knew what to do.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Nicole Page 2016 on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:39pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:23pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:26am:
Regarding your last sentence, that was my view. But it's changed.

If he's elected, Trump wants to declare war and hit ISIS hard. I agree. And it should be noted in this context that Trump has been critical of bush jnrs invasion of Iraq

Different ball game now.


ISIS, like al-Qaeda, is a floating crap game. The Afghanistan experience is a clear demonstration of how Western forces can do no more than teach the local militia how to hold a gun and defend their cities and towns against the insurgents. Once that's been achieved, Western troops should be recalled home - lock, stock, and barrel.

It's been 15 years since the West put boots on the ground over there in Afghanistan, and not only are the terrorist groups stronger than ever, but apparently 15-goddamned-years hasn't been enough time to drill the locals into some semblance of being a respectable militia ...

... and while all this expensive and life-costing bullshit has been going on for a staggering 15 years - (three times longer than the Second World War) - hundreds of young Afghani men of military age have been migrating to the West to take up jobs as taxi-drivers, Supermarket trolley-boys, security guards, and dole-queue 'clients'.





Herbert, I'm not talking about bush's ridiculous plan of 'democratising' Afghanistan and Iraq. And I don't know, but I strongly suspect trump isn't either. I'm not talking about the west training middle eastern armies and the like.

I think the US (and nato if trump has his way) can decimate Isis in a matter of weeks. Then we pull out.

Of course I take the point made by Issuevoter above - another ugly Islamic group will take control - Islam is a many headed snake. But they cannot - under any circumstances - think they can hit the west with terror attacks with impunity. Good men need to act.

And we need to stop pussy footing around - I had to remind my own father of Dresden last night. F#ck the collateral damage - you strike at our women and children, and we strike at yours.

It's war. It's their civilians or ours.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Nicole Page 2016 on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:42pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:33pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:23pm:
ISIS, like al-Qaeda, is a floating crap game. The Afghanistan experience is a clear demonstration of how Western forces can do no more than teach the local militia how to hold a gun and defend their cities and towns against the insurgents. Once that's been achieved, Western troops should be recalled home - lock, stock, and barrel.

Exactly. No more nation building -- just get the job done and get out.

That's what should be happening in Syria right now: NATO forces should be pounding ISIS's so-called capital -- and any other buildings used by these savages -- into rubble.

Al-Baghdadi is elusive, but everybody has to be somewhere. Plug enough mouse holes and the rodents run out of safe havens.


Precisely.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Black Orchid on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:55pm

cods wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
I dont think any govt could have foreseen what we are seeing today.... so dont lets start blaming the govt...

again we do have to look at who is doing the radicalising in the first place......we allow the book shops to sell just about anything.. the politically correct have made it quite clear we have to live with them.. not them live with us..

its pathetic...these young people are being got at....its no different to the drug pushers.....they are bending their minds.. just as drugs do... for all we know they may even be giving these young people drugs to win them  over in the first place..

we are like sitting ducks... because someone may criticise us......

god forbid..


Perhaps it was nor foreseen initially but how does that excuse the government?

Have they said "Oh, this was a pretty bad idea so we will take steps to reverse it"?

Or have they just opened the doors wider, all the while allotting more and more money to try to balance the effects of a very bad decision?

We should be looking after our children, homeless, aged,  abuse victims, indigenous etc first.  Not taking away money from our own and pouring it into a bandaid effect whilst  opening the doors wider and wider.  It doesn't need a very expensive bandaid.  It needs to be cut off at the knees.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:59pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:39pm:
I think the US (and nato if trump has his way) can decimate Isis in a matter of weeks. Then we pull out.


Unless there's a massive invasion of troops on the ground, then the 'tip of the iceberg' visible components that comprise ISIS on our television screens will never be expunged from where they are today.

But just as with the British soldiers in Northern Ireland, nothing is going to improve until the West removes itself from those Middle Eastern trouble spots.

T4E's Plan of how to sort out the troublesome and risky Muslims living in Western countries, is a cracker. It's the answer, and anything less will not solve the problem.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Nicole Page 2016 on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:14pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:59pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:39pm:
I think the US (and nato if trump has his way) can decimate Isis in a matter of weeks. Then we pull out.


Unless there's a massive invasion of troops on the ground, then the 'tip of the iceberg' visible components that comprise ISIS on our television screens will never be expunged from where they are today.

But just as with the British soldiers in Northern Ireland, nothing is going to improve until the West removes itself from those Middle Eastern trouble spots.

T4E's Plan of how to sort out the troublesome and risky Muslims living in Western countries, is a cracker. It's the answer, and anything less will not solve the problem.


Re your first paragraph: if we didn't care so much about collateral damage, we don't need a "massive invasion of troops on the ground". Right, or wrong?

4Es plan is right, but I think (unless I've smoked one too many bongs today) that he also agrees we should hit ISIS.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:26pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:14pm:
Re your first paragraph: if we didn't care so much about collateral damage, we don't need a "massive invasion of troops on the ground". Right, or wrong?


Correct! - but not right.

If they're in Raqqa or wherever, they only need to be surrounded and starved out without a shot being fired. There are hundreds of innocent civilians in there who simply cannot be sacrificed to an all-out blitzkrieg.

Patience is the answer. Simply starve them out as the Afghans did with the British soldiers, back when.

Right or wrong?

Answer the question!


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:30pm
"Invasion?"  Invasion of what?  "Hit them hard."  Hit who hard....where?

"Implementing de-radicalisation programs in primary schools."

WTF?????  Kids are now extreme radicalised people?  Huh?  What exactly is a de-radicalisation programme.

You lot are just shouting slogans and getting all lathered up in heroic keyboard excitement.

Just get out of the ME and if there are schit stirring arseholes in the West who are breaking the Law, piss them off.

Arabia if for Arabs.  When will "you" get that into your heads?

Do we never learn from the mistakes of the past, eg, Iraq, Afghanistan?

Bush Snr beat the schit out Saddam's Iraq and then departed.  That worked so well, didn't it.  Bush Jnr had a crack.  He took it further than his Old Man, but exactly how much of a failure was that.  Is 'disaster' too strong a word?

Nah, just get the ferk out of there, and let them slit each others throats.  Nothing to do with us, never has been.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by issuevoter on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:34pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:14pm:
Re your first paragraph: if we didn't care so much about collateral damage, we don't need a "massive invasion of troops on the ground". Right, or wrong?


Correct! - but not right.

If they're in Raqqa or wherever, they only need to be surrounded and starved out without a shot being fired. There are hundreds of innocent civilians in there who simply cannot be sacrificed to an all-out blitzkrieg.

Patience is the answer. Simply starve them out as the Afghans did with the British soldiers, back when.

Right or wrong?

Answer the question!


Very decent of you, old chap. You must be an Englishman. However, to defeat an enemy it is necessary to demonstrate ruthlessness to the point where they realise you intend to destroy everything they hold dear. That is how Rome defeated Carthage, The US defeated the southern Confederacy, and how the Allies defeated the Axis powers in WW2. Nice guy will not cut it.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:36pm
Excellent post, Aussie.

May the road rise up to meet you. May the wind always be at your back. May the sun shine warm upon your face, and rains fall soft upon your fields.

8-)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:46pm

issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:34pm:
Very decent of you, old chap. You must be an Englishman.


I'm Chinese, but don't let that put you off your stroke.


issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:34pm:
However, to defeat an enemy it is necessary to demonstrate ruthlessness to the point where they realise you intend to destroy everything they hold dear. That is how Rome defeated Carthage, The US defeated the southern Confederacy, and how the Allies defeated the Axis powers in WW2. Nice guy will not cut it.


You've been channelling Aquascoot.

Dresden was an important railway hub as well as the location of many manufacturing industries that were vital to Germany's war effort.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki ... stopped the war and saved countless lives and countless structures across the length and breadth of Japan.

I repeat: Surround ISIS in Raqqa and starve them out.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Nicole Page 2016 on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:50pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:36pm:
Excellent post, Aussie.

May the road rise up to meet you. May the wind always be at your back. May the sun shine warm upon your face, and rains fall soft upon your fields.

8-)


Indeed. I particularly like Aussies riposte of "Arabs for Arabia". He's not an advocate for multiculturalism. Heil Aussie!

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:55pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:50pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:36pm:
Excellent post, Aussie.

May the road rise up to meet you. May the wind always be at your back. May the sun shine warm upon your face, and rains fall soft upon your fields.

8-)


Indeed. I particularly like Aussies riposte of "Arabs for Arabia". He's not an advocate for multiculturalism. Heil Aussie!


Just like Palestine is not my 'beloved' as you verballed me with, I am quite comfortable with Australia being a multicultural Nation, but I doubt multiculturalism is compatible within many other places on the Planet, including Arabia.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:02pm

issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:34pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:14pm:
Re your first paragraph: if we didn't care so much about collateral damage, we don't need a "massive invasion of troops on the ground". Right, or wrong?


Correct! - but not right.

If they're in Raqqa or wherever, they only need to be surrounded and starved out without a shot being fired. There are hundreds of innocent civilians in there who simply cannot be sacrificed to an all-out blitzkrieg.

Patience is the answer. Simply starve them out as the Afghans did with the British soldiers, back when.

Right or wrong?

Answer the question!


Very decent of you, old chap. You must be an Englishman. However, to defeat an enemy it is necessary to demonstrate ruthlessness to the point where they realise you intend to destroy everything they hold dear. That is how Rome defeated Carthage, The US defeated the southern Confederacy, and how the Allies defeated the Axis powers in WW2. Nice guy will not cut it.



I wouldn't surprised if the French dropped a nuke on Raqqah.

Evil can only be cleansed with fire.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Black Orchid on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:03pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:29pm:
We need to simply start deporting the radical imams instead of tolerating their sedition. Send them back to the sand pit they crawled out of.


Absolutely!  I don't know about the USA but, in Australia, we still allow members of Hizb ut-Tahrir entry to preach their hate in our mosques,  despite Hizb ut-Tahrir being banned in Germany, Russia, China, Egypt, Turkey and all but 3 Arab countries.  It's insanity.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Black Orchid on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:06pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:36pm:
Excellent post, Aussie.

May the road rise up to meet you. May the wind always be at your back. May the sun shine warm upon your face, and rains fall soft upon your fields.

8-)


You deserve to be congratulated for even reading it.  Assuming it is the same babble of "Arabs for Arabia" he goes on with   8-)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:08pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:29pm:
We need to simply start deporting the radical imams instead of tolerating their sedition. Send them back to the sand pit they crawled out of.


Absolutely!  I don't know about the USA but, in Australia, we still allow members of Hizb ut-Tahrir entry to preach their hate in our mosques,  despite Hizb ut-Tahrir being banned in Germany, Russia, China, Egypt, Turkey and all but 3 Arab countries.  It's insanity.


Not freeeeeeeeeeeeedom of speeeeeeech?  When can we start burning all Islamic texts/books as well?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHzM1gXaiVo

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Black Orchid on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:10pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:08pm:
Not freeeeeeeeeeeeedom of speeeeeeech? 


Certainly not in "Relationships"   8-)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:11pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:08pm:
Not freeeeeeeeeeeeedom of speeeeeeech? 


Certainly not in "Relationships"   8-)


Piss weak deflection.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:16pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:08pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:29pm:
We need to simply start deporting the radical imams instead of tolerating their sedition. Send them back to the sand pit they crawled out of.


Absolutely!  I don't know about the USA but, in Australia, we still allow members of Hizb ut-Tahrir entry to preach their hate in our mosques,  despite Hizb ut-Tahrir being banned in Germany, Russia, China, Egypt, Turkey and all but 3 Arab countries.  It's insanity.


Not freeeeeeeeeeeeedom of speeeeeeech?  When can we start burning all Islamic texts/books as well?


Looks like ian and Sprint have been busy.

Police ask for public help following arson attack at Thornlie mosque

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:27pm
Nice one, Katie Hopkins.


link

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:32pm


Well said, Mariusz Blaszczak ...


link

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Nicole Page 2016 on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:35pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:06pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:36pm:
Excellent post, Aussie.

May the road rise up to meet you. May the wind always be at your back. May the sun shine warm upon your face, and rains fall soft upon your fields.

8-)


You deserve to be congratulated for even reading it.  Assuming it is the same babble of "Arabs for Arabia" he goes on with   8-)
t

Indeed. For some reason Arabs are entitled to monoculture, but the west is not.

I guess you've got to get your Indian mail order bride in somehow.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:48pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:35pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:06pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:36pm:
Excellent post, Aussie.

May the road rise up to meet you. May the wind always be at your back. May the sun shine warm upon your face, and rains fall soft upon your fields.

8-)


You deserve to be congratulated for even reading it.  Assuming it is the same babble of "Arabs for Arabia" he goes on with   8-)
t

Indeed. For some reason Arabs are entitled to monoculture, but the west is not.

I guess you've got to get your Indian mail order bride in somehow.


When all else fails, nothing like the ultimate fall back position ~ indulge in some racist Family abuse.

Charming.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Dustwun on Jul 16th, 2016 at 4:08pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:46pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:34pm:
Very decent of you, old chap. You must be an Englishman.


I'm Chinese, but don't let that put you off your stroke.


issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:34pm:
However, to defeat an enemy it is necessary to demonstrate ruthlessness to the point where they realise you intend to destroy everything they hold dear. That is how Rome defeated Carthage, The US defeated the southern Confederacy, and how the Allies defeated the Axis powers in WW2. Nice guy will not cut it.


You've been channelling Aquascoot.

Dresden was an important railway hub as well as the location of many manufacturing industries that were vital to Germany's war effort.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki ... stopped the war and saved countless lives and countless structures across the length and breadth of Japan.

I repeat: Surround ISIS in Raqqa and starve them out.


Ru Chinese,  I though I was the only slope here. I'm half Thai.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Frank on Jul 16th, 2016 at 4:17pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:02pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:34pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:14pm:
Re your first paragraph: if we didn't care so much about collateral damage, we don't need a "massive invasion of troops on the ground". Right, or wrong?


Correct! - but not right.

If they're in Raqqa or wherever, they only need to be surrounded and starved out without a shot being fired. There are hundreds of innocent civilians in there who simply cannot be sacrificed to an all-out blitzkrieg.

Patience is the answer. Simply starve them out as the Afghans did with the British soldiers, back when.

Right or wrong?

Answer the question!


Very decent of you, old chap. You must be an Englishman. However, to defeat an enemy it is necessary to demonstrate ruthlessness to the point where they realise you intend to destroy everything they hold dear. That is how Rome defeated Carthage, The US defeated the southern Confederacy, and how the Allies defeated the Axis powers in WW2. Nice guy will not cut it.



I wouldn't surprised if the French dropped a nuke on Raqqah.

Evil can only be cleansed with fire.


Raqqa is not the problem. It's the Muslims who new this Mohammed and did nothing to stop him. They are the problem.
Radicalised Muslims and their entire extended families should be stripped of their Western citizenship and deported.
Terrorism in Western countries would stop overnight. As it is, they get off too easily and so they don't do enough to stop their kids, brothers, cousins. Muslims must pay a much heavier price for having terrorists and radicals among them.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 16th, 2016 at 4:29pm

Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 4:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:02pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:34pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:14pm:
Re your first paragraph: if we didn't care so much about collateral damage, we don't need a "massive invasion of troops on the ground". Right, or wrong?


Correct! - but not right.

If they're in Raqqa or wherever, they only need to be surrounded and starved out without a shot being fired. There are hundreds of innocent civilians in there who simply cannot be sacrificed to an all-out blitzkrieg.

Patience is the answer. Simply starve them out as the Afghans did with the British soldiers, back when.

Right or wrong?

Answer the question!


Very decent of you, old chap. You must be an Englishman. However, to defeat an enemy it is necessary to demonstrate ruthlessness to the point where they realise you intend to destroy everything they hold dear. That is how Rome defeated Carthage, The US defeated the southern Confederacy, and how the Allies defeated the Axis powers in WW2. Nice guy will not cut it.



I wouldn't surprised if the French dropped a nuke on Raqqah.

Evil can only be cleansed with fire.


Raqqa is not the problem. It's the Muslims who new this Mohammed and did nothing to stop him. They are the problem.
Radicalised Muslims and their entire extended families should be stripped of their Western citizenship and deported.
Terrorism in Western countries would stop overnight. As it is, they get off too easily and so they don't do enough to stop their kids, brothers, cousins. Muslims must pay a much heavier price for having terrorists and radicals among them.


You know the Kevin Bacon game, I'd do that with terrorist and go 6 levels deep.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 16th, 2016 at 4:31pm
:'(
20160716_155119-320x180.jpg (18 KB | )

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Nicole Page 2016 on Jul 16th, 2016 at 4:43pm

Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 4:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:02pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:34pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:14pm:
Re your first paragraph: if we didn't care so much about collateral damage, we don't need a "massive invasion of troops on the ground". Right, or wrong?


Correct! - but not right.

If they're in Raqqa or wherever, they only need to be surrounded and starved out without a shot being fired. There are hundreds of innocent civilians in there who simply cannot be sacrificed to an all-out blitzkrieg.

Patience is the answer. Simply starve them out as the Afghans did with the British soldiers, back when.

Right or wrong?

Answer the question!


Very decent of you, old chap. You must be an Englishman. However, to defeat an enemy it is necessary to demonstrate ruthlessness to the point where they realise you intend to destroy everything they hold dear. That is how Rome defeated Carthage, The US defeated the southern Confederacy, and how the Allies defeated the Axis powers in WW2. Nice guy will not cut it.



I wouldn't surprised if the French dropped a nuke on Raqqah.

Evil can only be cleansed with fire.


Raqqa is not the problem. It's the Muslims who new this Mohammed and did nothing to stop him. They are the problem.
Radicalised Muslims and their entire extended families should be stripped of their Western citizenship and deported.
Terrorism in Western countries would stop overnight. As it is, they get off too easily and so they don't do enough to stop their kids, brothers, cousins. Muslims must pay a much heavier price for having terrorists and radicals among them.


Good post Frank. I agree.

What's your view on the US and its allies waging war against Isis? It seems to me there are three options:

1) don't wage war
2) wage war, then help them build democracies and self govern; or
3) strike hard and fast. Accept there will be collateral damage. Do not help rebuild anything.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by NorthOfNorth on Jul 16th, 2016 at 5:15pm

Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 4:17pm:
Muslims must pay a much heavier price for having terrorists and radicals among them.

What are your thoughts on the Sunni / Shia schism which is the driver of ISIS?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 16th, 2016 at 5:18pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 5:15pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 4:17pm:
Muslims must pay a much heavier price for having terrorists and radicals among them.

What are your thoughts on the Sunni / Shia schism which is the driver of ISIS?


Arm both side6, get some popcorn.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 16th, 2016 at 5:25pm
Where is your ultimate position Nicole Page 2016 which is to murder every Muslim man woman and child?  Why are you now hiding what you said you wanted? 


Quote:
It seems to me there are three options:

1) don't wage war


Gee, there's a novel idea.  Can you add ~ 'and get the ferk out of Arabia?'


Quote:
2) wage war, then help them build democracies and self govern; or


Where did the West ever successfully do that in Countries it has invaded?  Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq....anywhere in the ME?  Was it Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos?  Where?  Iraq?


Quote:
3) strike hard and fast. Accept there will be collateral damage. Do not help rebuild anything.


Tried that in Iraq.  Amazing success.  Outstanding result.

The only solution is that we get the Hell out of where we have no place, where we do not belong.  Why are we there, Nicole Page 2016?  Are we the Warmongers?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Nicole Page 2016 on Jul 16th, 2016 at 5:32pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 5:18pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 5:15pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 4:17pm:
Muslims must pay a much heavier price for having terrorists and radicals among them.

What are your thoughts on the Sunni / Shia schism which is the driver of ISIS?


Arm both side6, get some popcorn.


Gold!

Gordy for President!

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by NorthOfNorth on Jul 16th, 2016 at 5:37pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 5:18pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 5:15pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 4:17pm:
Muslims must pay a much heavier price for having terrorists and radicals among them.

What are your thoughts on the Sunni / Shia schism which is the driver of ISIS?


Arm both side6, get some popcorn.

They are both armed - The Sunnis have ISIS... the Shia have Iran and the Iraqi government.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 16th, 2016 at 5:41pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 5:25pm:
Where is your ultimate position Nicole Page 2016 which is to murder every Muslim man woman and child?  Why are you now hiding what you said you wanted? 


Quote:
It seems to me there are three options:

1) don't wage war


Gee, there's a novel idea.  Can you add ~ 'and get the ferk out of Arabia?'

[quote]2) wage war, then help them build democracies and self govern; or


Where did the West ever do that in Countries it has invaded?  Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq....anywhere in the ME?  Was it Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos?  Where?  Iraq?


Quote:
3) strike hard and fast. Accept there will be collateral damage. Do not help rebuild anything.


Tried that in Iraq.  Amazing success.  Outstanding result.

The only solution is that we get the Hell out of where we have no place, where we do not belong.  Why are we there, Nicole Page 2016?  Are we the Warmongers?[/quote]

As usual you're about 100% incorrect.
The shock and awe stage was a stunning success.
At that stage if all muslims wanted peace without Sadam it was theirs for the taking.


Even before the first bomb was dropped Zarqawi had moved to Iraq in anticipation for a chance for phase one. Wipe out the Shia then phase 2 the Caliph.

Had Sadam died if anus cancer we'd probably be in the same position.  Do some reading about how pent up the Shia Sunni thing was and how inevitable it was to burst out somewhere.

Bet you just stick to your simplistic Awab for Awabia mantra.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:11pm
Ahhh
http://www.smh.com.au/world/bastille-day-attack-french-police-make-arrests-after-nice-truck-attack-20160716-gq79fa.html

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:12pm

Dustwun wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 4:08pm:
Ru Chinese,  I though I was the only slope here. I'm half Thai.


Gotcha!

I only said that to draw you out!

Quick! Up against the wall with your hands up! I'm abducting you to become a slave in my clothing factory where you'll be chained to the loom 24/7 with all the others!





Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:15pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:11pm:
Ahhh
http://www.smh.com.au/world/bastille-day-attack-french-police-make-arrests-after-nice-truck-attack-20160716-gq79fa.html


"French authorities are still trying to determine whether the 31-year old Tunisian driver of the vehicle acted alone or with accomplices and whether his motives are connected to radical Islam."

Ah.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:22pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:11pm:
Ahhh
http://www.smh.com.au/world/bastille-day-attack-french-police-make-arrests-after-nice-truck-attack-20160716-gq79fa.html



His cousin says this perpetrator was a lousy Muslim because he not only didn't go to the mosque on Fridays, but even ate pork.

Mind you, they did hear him shouting "Allahu Akbar!" as he plowed that truck through the crowd.

As a martyr he'll only find 72 virgin sows waiting for him ...

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:29pm

Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 4:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:02pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:34pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:14pm:
Re your first paragraph: if we didn't care so much about collateral damage, we don't need a "massive invasion of troops on the ground". Right, or wrong?


Correct! - but not right.

If they're in Raqqa or wherever, they only need to be surrounded and starved out without a shot being fired. There are hundreds of innocent civilians in there who simply cannot be sacrificed to an all-out blitzkrieg.

Patience is the answer. Simply starve them out as the Afghans did with the British soldiers, back when.

Right or wrong?

Answer the question!


Very decent of you, old chap. You must be an Englishman. However, to defeat an enemy it is necessary to demonstrate ruthlessness to the point where they realise you intend to destroy everything they hold dear. That is how Rome defeated Carthage, The US defeated the southern Confederacy, and how the Allies defeated the Axis powers in WW2. Nice guy will not cut it.



I wouldn't surprised if the French dropped a nuke on Raqqah.

Evil can only be cleansed with fire.


Raqqa is not the problem. It's the Muslims who new this Mohammed and did nothing to stop him. They are the problem.
Radicalised Muslims and their entire extended families should be stripped of their Western citizenship and deported.
Terrorism in Western countries would stop overnight. As it is, they get off too easily and so they don't do enough to stop their kids, brothers, cousins. Muslims must pay a much heavier price for having terrorists and radicals among them.




Send the all to Raqqah - then drop on a nuke on it.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Dustwun on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:35pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:12pm:

Dustwun wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 4:08pm:
Ru Chinese,  I though I was the only slope here. I'm half Thai.


Gotcha!

I only said that to draw you out!

Quick! Up against the wall with your hands up! I'm abducting you to become a slave in my clothing factory where you'll be chained to the loom 24/7 with all the others!



That's not a nice thing to say


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Nicole Page 2016 on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:37pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:29pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 4:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:02pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:34pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:14pm:
Re your first paragraph: if we didn't care so much about collateral damage, we don't need a "massive invasion of troops on the ground". Right, or wrong?


Correct! - but not right.

If they're in Raqqa or wherever, they only need to be surrounded and starved out without a shot being fired. There are hundreds of innocent civilians in there who simply cannot be sacrificed to an all-out blitzkrieg.

Patience is the answer. Simply starve them out as the Afghans did with the British soldiers, back when.

Right or wrong?

Answer the question!


Very decent of you, old chap. You must be an Englishman. However, to defeat an enemy it is necessary to demonstrate ruthlessness to the point where they realise you intend to destroy everything they hold dear. That is how Rome defeated Carthage, The US defeated the southern Confederacy, and how the Allies defeated the Axis powers in WW2. Nice guy will not cut it.



I wouldn't surprised if the French dropped a nuke on Raqqah.

Evil can only be cleansed with fire.


Raqqa is not the problem. It's the Muslims who new this Mohammed and did nothing to stop him. They are the problem.
Radicalised Muslims and their entire extended families should be stripped of their Western citizenship and deported.
Terrorism in Western countries would stop overnight. As it is, they get off too easily and so they don't do enough to stop their kids, brothers, cousins. Muslims must pay a much heavier price for having terrorists and radicals among them.




Send the all to Raqqah - then drop on a nuke on it.


But then you'd miss Mecca.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:51pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:37pm:
But then you'd miss Mecca.


Islam has become a cancer on the world.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Dustwun on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:57pm
7

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:07pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:51pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:37pm:
But then you'd miss Mecca.


Islam has become a cancer on the world.



Worse than cane toads

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:18pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:51pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:37pm:
But then you'd miss Mecca.


Islam has become a cancer on the world.



Worse than cane toads



Worse than AIDS

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:19pm

Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 4:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:02pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:34pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 2:14pm:
Re your first paragraph: if we didn't care so much about collateral damage, we don't need a "massive invasion of troops on the ground". Right, or wrong?


Correct! - but not right.

If they're in Raqqa or wherever, they only need to be surrounded and starved out without a shot being fired. There are hundreds of innocent civilians in there who simply cannot be sacrificed to an all-out blitzkrieg.

Patience is the answer. Simply starve them out as the Afghans did with the British soldiers, back when.

Right or wrong?

Answer the question!


Very decent of you, old chap. You must be an Englishman. However, to defeat an enemy it is necessary to demonstrate ruthlessness to the point where they realise you intend to destroy everything they hold dear. That is how Rome defeated Carthage, The US defeated the southern Confederacy, and how the Allies defeated the Axis powers in WW2. Nice guy will not cut it.



I wouldn't surprised if the French dropped a nuke on Raqqah.

Evil can only be cleansed with fire.


Raqqa is not the problem. It's the Muslims who new this Mohammed and did nothing to stop him. They are the problem.
Radicalised Muslims and their entire extended families should be stripped of their Western citizenship and deported.
Terrorism in Western countries would stop overnight. As it is, they get off too easily and so they don't do enough to stop their kids, brothers, cousins. Muslims must pay a much heavier price for having terrorists and radicals among them.



X 2

the days of saying 'we never knew our son/other mosque goer was a nutter' must be finished

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by brumbie on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:25pm
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Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:48pm
ISIS claims responsibility for attack in Nice,


citing source
Peter Wilkinson-Profile-Image

By Peter Wilkinson, CNN

Updated 0927 GMT (1727 HKT) July 16, 2016
Story highlights

    More than 200 others were injured

(CNN)The ISIS media branch claimed responsibility for an attack that killed 84 people in the French city of Nice,
citing a security source within the terror organization.
More than 200 others were injured in the attack Thursday.

French authorities have not indicated that the attack was part of a larger ISIS plot,
or that the attacker took direction from ISIS.
Five people are in custody in connection with the Thursday attack, officials said.
Developing story - more to come.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/16/europe/france-attack-on-nice-isis/index.html?adkey=bn

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:51pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
ISIS claims responsibility for attack in Nice,


Well, it must be true then.

It's not like a terrorist organisation would tell lies, is it Booby?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
ISIS claims responsibility for attack in Nice,


Well, it must be true then.

It's not like a terrorist organisation would tell lies, is it sir Bobby?




Who did it then?

Are you an apologist for Islam?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:56pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
ISIS claims responsibility for attack in Nice,


Well, it must be true then.

It's not like a terrorist organisation would tell lies, is it sir Bobby?




Who did it then?

Are you an apologist for Islam?


We know who did it....some idiot murdering prick driving a large truck.  Does it have to be more complicated than that?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:57pm
Nice terror attack:

Isis claims responsibility for lorry massacre in French coastal city

    Richard A.L. Williams
    55 minutes  ago
    18 comments


Isis has claimed responsibility for the terror attack in Nice that saw at least 84 people killed after a lorry was driven into crowds of people.

"The person who carried out the operation in Nice, France, to run down people was one of the soldiers of Islamic State," news agency Amaq, which supports the group also known as Islamic State, said via its Telegram account.

"He carried out the operation in response to calls to target nationals of states that are part of the coalition fighting Islamic State."


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nice-terror-attack-isis-claims-responsibility-lorry-massacre-france-coastal-city-a7140381.html

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by NorthOfNorth on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
ISIS claims responsibility for attack in Nice,


Well, it must be true then.

It's not like a terrorist organisation would tell lies, is it Booby?

They're actually usually brutally honest when it comes to admitting what they've done... Otherwise they wouldn't be... y'know... following religious dogma.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:00pm
The Islamic State terror group has claimed responsibility for the truck attack in Nice,


France, that left 84 people dead, according to ISIS-affiliated Amaq news agency.
Trends
Nice truck attack

RT's LIVE UPDATES on the truck attack in Nice

“The person who carried out the operation in Nice, France, to run down people was one of the soldiers of Islamic State,” Amaq said via its Telegram account.

“He carried out the operation in response to calls to target nationals of states that are part of the coalition fighting Islamic State.”


https://www.rt.com/news/351564-nice-attack-isis-claim/

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:02pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
ISIS claims responsibility for attack in Nice,


Well, it must be true then.

It's not like a terrorist organisation would tell lies, is it sir Bobby?




Who did it then?


The driver of the truck.

Why are you so keen to shift the blame away from him, apologist?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
ISIS claims responsibility for attack in Nice,


Well, it must be true then.

It's not like a terrorist organisation would tell lies, is it sir Bobby?




Who did it then?


The driver of the truck.

Why are you so keen to shift the blame away from him, apologist?



He had 5 accomplices.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:04pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:00pm:
“The person who carried out the operation in Nice, France, to run down people was one of the soldiers of Islamic State,” Amaq said via its Telegram account.


Booby believes every word that comes from a terrorist organisation, even when the person they are talking about is dead and can't confirm the claim.

This is a new level of gullibility from our Booby.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:05pm
Five people are in custody in connection with the Thursday attack, officials said.
Developing story - more to come.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:00pm:
“The person who carried out the operation in Nice, France, to run down people was one of the soldiers of Islamic State,” Amaq said via its Telegram account.


Booby believes every word that comes from a terrorist organisation, even when the person they are talking about is dead and can't confirm the claim.

This is a new level of gullibility from our sir Bobby.




Greggy can't cope with the truth.

It was organised mass murder.

I want to see all those who were involved hanged:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDgZiyfRIdU

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
ISIS claims responsibility for attack in Nice,


Well, it must be true then.

It's not like a terrorist organisation would tell lies, is it sir Bobby?




Who did it then?


The driver of the truck.

Why are you so keen to shift the blame away from him, apologist?


Yes Greggy, we all blame the driver of the truck but we need to delve deeper to see if there is any group he's affiliated with and if so, will this group encourage or inspire others to do similar actions.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:08pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:05pm:
Five people are in custody in connection with the Thursday attack, officials said.
Developing story - more to come.


So...how did they become accomplices, Bobby?

(I'm not saying they are not, but how can you say they are?)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:10pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:05pm:
Five people are in custody in connection with the Thursday attack, officials said.
Developing story - more to come.


So...how did they become accomplices, Bobby?

(I'm not saying they are not, but how can you say they are?)



Don't worry - the French cops will beat it out of them.

All will be revealed.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:10pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:05pm:
Five people are in custody in connection with the Thursday attack, officials said.
Developing story - more to come.


So...how did they become accomplices, Bobby?

(I'm not saying they are not, but how can you say they are?)


Hope they weren't caught with an ID card.   :D

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:11pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
ISIS claims responsibility for attack in Nice,


Well, it must be true then.

It's not like a terrorist organisation would tell lies, is it Booby?

They're actually usually brutally honest when it comes to admitting what they've done... Otherwise they wouldn't be... y'know... following religious dogma.


Just watch this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vApBZlaePec

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Nicole Page 2016 on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:12pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
ISIS claims responsibility for attack in Nice,


Well, it must be true then.

It's not like a terrorist organisation would tell lies, is it sir Bobby?




Who did it then?


The driver of the truck.

Why are you so keen to shift the blame away from him, apologist?


Yes Greggy, we all blame the driver of the truck but we need to delve deeper to see if there is any group he's affiliated with and if so, will this group encourage or inspire others to do similar actions.


Christ, it's like spoon feeding gorillas here.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:14pm

Quote:
Christ, it's like spoon feeding gorillas here.


How so.   Do you really believe that saying that investigations will be made/delving done is some profound revelation?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:16pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:11pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
ISIS claims responsibility for attack in Nice,


Well, it must be true then.

It's not like a terrorist organisation would tell lies, is it Booby?

They're actually usually brutally honest when it comes to admitting what they've done... Otherwise they wouldn't be... y'know... following religious dogma.


Just watch this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vApBZlaePec



Pound Raqqah into a parking lot -   yeahhhhhhhhh

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:17pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
ISIS claims responsibility for attack in Nice,


Well, it must be true then.

It's not like a terrorist organisation would tell lies, is it sir Bobby?




Who did it then?


The driver of the truck.

Why are you so keen to shift the blame away from him, apologist?


Yes Greggy, we all blame the driver of the truck but we need to delve deeper to see if there is any group he's affiliated with and if so, will this group encourage or inspire others to do similar actions.


Hardly any of you blame the driver of the truck.

You're all shifting the blame.

Moreover, the police have been delving and so far they have found no links to any group.

Once again, your Islamophobia is preventing you from thinking rationally.



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:21pm

Dustwun wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:35pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:12pm:

Dustwun wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 4:08pm:
Ru Chinese,  I though I was the only slope here. I'm half Thai.


Gotcha!

I only said that to draw you out!

Quick! Up against the wall with your hands up! I'm abducting you to become a slave in my clothing factory where you'll be chained to the loom 24/7 with all the others!



That's not a nice thing to say




My apologies.

I was attempting a little humour, but apparently you haven't yet assimilated sufficiently into Western culture to realise that that was my only intention.

One of the hazards of working with people of foreign background is the matter of assuming that your sense of humour will be universally accepted by all.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

For many years I worked almost exclusively with ethnic immigrants from various parts of the world, and the one thing you learn very quickly is that with all Third World cultures the people take themselves very seriously indeed, and the slightest hint of being taken the piss of will make them very resentful.

Asian 'face' must be preserved at all costs.

Deprecating humour of the good-natured teasing type is totally alien to their way of thinking, with meanwhile it is a staple throughout the English-speaking countries.

"Owyergoin' ya Pommy bastard?!" etc. In Western culture you just suck it up while preparing your equally abusive reply.  ;D


       


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:17pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
ISIS claims responsibility for attack in Nice,


Well, it must be true then.

It's not like a terrorist organisation would tell lies, is it sir Bobby?




Who did it then?


The driver of the truck.

Why are you so keen to shift the blame away from him, apologist?


Yes Greggy, we all blame the driver of the truck but we need to delve deeper to see if there is any group he's affiliated with and if so, will this group encourage or inspire others to do similar actions.


Hardly any of you blame the driver of the truck.

You're all shifting the blame.

Moreover, the police have been delving and so far they have found no links to any group.

Once again, your Islamophobia is preventing you from thinking rationally.


Look, I get where you're coming from, I really do.
If the driver was a Buddhist convert who grew up in an igloo in Inuit lands and we just blurted out ISLAM, like a someone with tourettes syndrome, I'll cop the Islamophobia tag.

But the facts are:

He's a Muslim
ISIS claimed responsibility
He was screaming allahu akbar while he was killing children

So occam's razor leaves us no other option than to question Islam.

Hope once again Gordy nailing it has been of assistance.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:28pm

Quote:
"Owyergoin' ya Pommy bastard?!"


Gee, did you think that was being asked sincerely out of genuine concern for your welfare and with humour, Herbert?  Really??????

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:31pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:24pm:
But the facts are:

He's a Muslim

Was.

A Muslim who reportedly ate pork, drank alcohol, took drugs, and never attended Mosque.


Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:24pm:
ISIS claimed responsibility

And you believe them, even though they are a terrorist organisation and the killer can't confirm the claim?


Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:24pm:
He was screaming allahu akbar while he was killing children

Really - a "fact"?

According to whom, Gordy?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Dustwun on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:32pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:21pm:

Dustwun wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:35pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:12pm:

Dustwun wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 4:08pm:
Ru Chinese,  I though I was the only slope here. I'm half Thai.


Gotcha!

I only said that to draw you out!

Quick! Up against the wall with your hands up! I'm abducting you to become a slave in my clothing factory where you'll be chained to the loom 24/7 with all the others!



That's not a nice thing to say




My apologies.

I was attempting a little humour, but apparently you haven't yet assimilated sufficiently into Western culture to realise that that was my only intention.

One of the hazards of working with people of foreign background is the matter of assuming that your sense of humour will be universally accepted by all.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

For many years I worked almost exclusively with ethnic immigrants from various parts of the world, and the one thing you learn very quickly is that with all Third World cultures the people take themselves very seriously indeed, and the slightest hint of being taken the piss of will make them very resentful.

Asian 'face' must be preserved at all costs.

Deprecating humour of the good-natured teasing type is totally alien to their way of thinking, with meanwhile it is a staple throughout the English-speaking countries.

"Owyergoin' ya Pommy bastard?!" etc. In Western culture you just suck it up while preparing your equally abusive reply.  ;D
     


It's ok, Most people think I look more like a wog than a slope. :)






Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:31pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:24pm:
But the facts are:

He's a Muslim

Was.

A Muslim who reportedly ate pork, drank alcohol, took drugs, and never attended Mosque.


Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:24pm:
ISIS claimed responsibility

And you believe them, even though they are a terrorist organisation and the killer can't confirm the claim?


Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:24pm:
He was screaming allahu akbar while he was killing children

Really - a "fact"?

According to whom, Gordy?


Oh sorry, I got that from a bad source, he was singing this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVcJIMhmGys

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:39pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:31pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:24pm:
But the facts are:

He's a Muslim

Was.

A Muslim who reportedly ate pork, drank alcohol, took drugs, and never attended Mosque.


Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:24pm:
ISIS claimed responsibility

And you believe them, even though they are a terrorist organisation and the killer can't confirm the claim?


Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:24pm:
He was screaming allahu akbar while he was killing children

Really - a "fact"?

According to whom, Gordy?


Oh sorry, I got that from a bad source, he was singing this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVcJIMhmGys


White flag accepted.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:40pm

issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 7:33am:
One of the worst aspects of all these Muzlim atrocities, is that a great portion of Western populations are beginning to see them as inevitable. Islam is winning its war.


That does seem to be the emerging view.  Why?  The pattern , so-called, does not mean that ALL or even most Muslims are in agreement with these psychos, but it sure makes it easier for the spin-doctors, the shapers of public opinion , to paint an entire spectrum of society as suspect.

Much like the WAR on DRUGS eh?? 

Please don't be so simplistic. .  :(

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:39pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:31pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:24pm:
But the facts are:

He's a Muslim

Was.

A Muslim who reportedly ate pork, drank alcohol, took drugs, and never attended Mosque.


Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:24pm:
ISIS claimed responsibility

And you believe them, even though they are a terrorist organisation and the killer can't confirm the claim?


Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:24pm:
He was screaming allahu akbar while he was killing children

Really - a "fact"?

According to whom, Gordy?


Oh sorry, I got that from a bad source, he was singing this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVcJIMhmGys


White flag accepted.


Not so fast...

BASTILLE DAY MASSACRE At least ten children among 84 slaughtered by truck driver who ploughed through Nice crowd ‘like a bowling ball while shouting Allahu Akbar’

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1447619/at-least-77-dead-and-100-injured-as-lorry-crashes-into-crowd-of-revellers-celebrating-in-france-terror-attack/

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:49pm

Dustwun wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:32pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:21pm:

Dustwun wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:35pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 6:12pm:

Dustwun wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 4:08pm:
Ru Chinese,  I though I was the only slope here. I'm half Thai.


Gotcha!

I only said that to draw you out!

Quick! Up against the wall with your hands up! I'm abducting you to become a slave in my clothing factory where you'll be chained to the loom 24/7 with all the others!



That's not a nice thing to say




My apologies.

I was attempting a little humour, but apparently you haven't yet assimilated sufficiently into Western culture to realise that that was my only intention.

One of the hazards of working with people of foreign background is the matter of assuming that your sense of humour will be universally accepted by all.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

For many years I worked almost exclusively with ethnic immigrants from various parts of the world, and the one thing you learn very quickly is that with all Third World cultures the people take themselves very seriously indeed, and the slightest hint of being taken the piss of will make them very resentful.

Asian 'face' must be preserved at all costs.

Deprecating humour of the good-natured teasing type is totally alien to their way of thinking, with meanwhile it is a staple throughout the English-speaking countries.

"Owyergoin' ya Pommy bastard?!" etc. In Western culture you just suck it up while preparing your equally abusive reply.  ;D
     


It's ok, Most people think I look more like a wog than a slope. :)


I lived in Shanghai and Honk Kong for a total of around 6 years as a boy, and I don't like people using the terms 'slope' and 'chink' which I find is unnecessarily abusive and gratuitous.

As for looks, I could be taken for Greek, Lebanese, Turkish - and even a certain type of ethnic Indian.

Us wogs have got to stick together, Dustwun, and keep practicing our Kickboxing against the time when it might come useful when we are helping to empty out the mosques during the coming civil wars.  8-)



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:49pm
Donald Trump says it's WW3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa8eKtnmReY

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Nicole Page 2016 on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:50pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:28pm:

Quote:
"Owyergoin' ya Pommy bastard?!"


Gee, did you think that was being asked sincerely out of genuine concern for your welfare and with humour, Herbert?  Really??????


I doubt it. Unlike you Herbert wasn't dropped on his head as a baby.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:50pm
How does this stack up:


Quote:
Bouhlel mounted the pavement, mowing down groups at 40mph, before reportedly jumping out of the truck and opening fire as he shouted “Allahu Akbar” – God is greatest.


.....with the images we have seen of multiple bullet holes in the windscreen of the truck?  What on Earth were they firing at if the prick was out of the Cabin, and shooting.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir lastnail on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:54pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:49pm:
Donald Trump says it's WW3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa8eKtnmReY


WW3 started by a truck driver :D LOL

The war against truck drivers :D LOL

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:56pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:39pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:31pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:24pm:
But the facts are:

He's a Muslim

Was.

A Muslim who reportedly ate pork, drank alcohol, took drugs, and never attended Mosque.


Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:24pm:
ISIS claimed responsibility

And you believe them, even though they are a terrorist organisation and the killer can't confirm the claim?


Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:24pm:
He was screaming allahu akbar while he was killing children

Really - a "fact"?

According to whom, Gordy?


Oh sorry, I got that from a bad source, he was singing this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVcJIMhmGys


White flag accepted.


Not so fast...

BASTILLE DAY MASSACRE At least ten children among 84 slaughtered by truck driver who ploughed through Nice crowd ‘like a bowling ball while shouting Allahu Akbar’

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1447619/at-least-77-dead-and-100-injured-as-lorry-crashes-into-crowd-of-revellers-celebrating-in-france-terror-attack/


You said it was a "fact", Gordy.

What evidence do you have to support your claim?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Black Orchid on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:07pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:50pm:
How does this stack up:


Quote:
Bouhlel mounted the pavement, mowing down groups at 40mph, before reportedly jumping out of the truck and opening fire as he shouted “Allahu Akbar” – God is greatest.


.....with the images we have seen of multiple bullet holes in the windscreen of the truck?  What on Earth were they firing at if the prick was out of the Cabin, and shooting.


Ummmm he got back in the truck?  Talk about thick!  The very least you could do would be to learn how to read, wot?


Quote:
The driver then emerged from the truck and opened fire on the crowd, another eyewitness said. French media is now reporting the gunman got back in the driver’s seat and travelled to another populated area before starting to shoot again.

Police opened fire on the truck which crushed revellers and sent people running for their lives. The truck’s driver was shot dead.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:08pm

Emma wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:40pm:
That does seem to be the emerging view.  Why?  The pattern , so-called, does not mean that ALL or even most Muslims are in agreement with these psychos, but it sure makes it easier for the spin-doctors, the shapers of public opinion , to paint an entire spectrum of society as suspect.


But of course they're all suspect, and that's for the very sensible reason that they all subscribe to the same religious blueprint - the Koran.

Just because most Muslims are not activists doesn't mean they don't sympathise with the jihadists who plot to kill Westerners.

It says something that leading figures of Islam are unable to cite ISIS members as heretics to Islam - and this is because what they're doing is sanctioned by passages in the same 'Holy Writings' as they themselves subscribe to.

Every corner store 'decent' Muslim shop-owner and his wife has the potential to raise a mass-murdering jihadi Warrior for Islam.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:11pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:07pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:50pm:
How does this stack up:


Quote:
Bouhlel mounted the pavement, mowing down groups at 40mph, before reportedly jumping out of the truck and opening fire as he shouted “Allahu Akbar” – God is greatest.


.....with the images we have seen of multiple bullet holes in the windscreen of the truck?  What on Earth were they firing at if the prick was out of the Cabin, and shooting.


Ummmm he got back in the truck?  Talk about thick!  The very least you could do would be to learn how to read, wot?

[quote]The driver then emerged from the truck and opened fire on the crowd, another eyewitness said. French media is now reporting the gunman got back in the driver’s seat and travelled to another populated area before starting to shoot again.

Police opened fire on the truck which crushed revellers and sent people running for their lives. The truck’s driver was shot dead.

[/quote]

The very least you could do is tell us how Gordy knows for a "fact" that he was yelling 'Allahu Akbar', wot?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:12pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:28pm:

Quote:
"Owyergoin' ya Pommy bastard?!"


Gee, did you think that was being asked sincerely out of genuine concern for your welfare and with humour, Herbert?  Really??????


I doubt it. Unlike you Herbert wasn't dropped on his head as a baby.


I believe it happened when he was in his teens.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:15pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:07pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:50pm:
How does this stack up:


Quote:
Bouhlel mounted the pavement, mowing down groups at 40mph, before reportedly jumping out of the truck and opening fire as he shouted “Allahu Akbar” – God is greatest.


.....with the images we have seen of multiple bullet holes in the windscreen of the truck?  What on Earth were they firing at if the prick was out of the Cabin, and shooting.


Ummmm he got back in the truck?  Talk about thick!  The very least you could do would be to learn how to read, wot?

[quote]The driver then emerged from the truck and opened fire on the crowd, another eyewitness said. French media is now reporting the gunman got back in the driver’s seat and travelled to another populated area before starting to shoot again.

Police opened fire on the truck which crushed revellers and sent people running for their lives. The truck’s driver was shot dead.

[/quote]

I saw none of that in the link I read.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:11pm:
The very least you could do is tell us how Gordy knows for a "fact" that he was yelling 'Allahu Akbar', wot?




Greggy - Islamic State have claimed responsibility.

What more evidence do you need?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:17pm
The Islamic State terror group has claimed responsibility for the truck attack in Nice,


France, that left 84 people dead, according to ISIS-affiliated Amaq news agency.
Trends
Nice truck attack

RT's LIVE UPDATES on the truck attack in Nice

“The person who carried out the operation in Nice, France, to run down people was one of the soldiers of Islamic State,” Amaq said via its Telegram account.

“He carried out the operation in response to calls to target nationals of states that are part of the coalition fighting Islamic State.”


https://www.rt.com/news/351564-nice-attack-isis-claim/

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:17pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:11pm:
The very least you could do is tell us how Gordy knows for a "fact" that he was yelling 'Allahu Akbar', wot?




Greggy - Islamic State have claimed responsibility.

What more evidence do you need?


I organised it Bobby.  I swear I did.  Convinced?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:11pm:
The very least you could do is tell us how Gordy knows for a "fact" that he was yelling 'Allahu Akbar', wot?




Greggy - Islamic State have claimed responsibility.

What more evidence do you need?


Booby, the sign says it's for sale.



What more evidence do you need?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:21pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:08pm:

Emma wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:40pm:
That does seem to be the emerging view.  Why?  The pattern , so-called, does not mean that ALL or even most Muslims are in agreement with these psychos, but it sure makes it easier for the spin-doctors, the shapers of public opinion , to paint an entire spectrum of society as suspect.


But of course they're all suspect, and that's for the very sensible reason that they all subscribe to the same religious blueprint - the Koran.

Just because most Muslims are not activists doesn't mean they don't sympathise with the jihadists who plot to kill Westerners.

It says something that leading figures of Islam are unable to cite ISIS members as heretics to Islam - and this is because what they're doing is sanctioned by passages in the same 'Holy Writings' as they themselves subscribe to.

Every corner store 'decent' Muslim shop-owner and his wife has the potential to raise a mass-murdering jihadi Warrior for Islam.

hhh  my friend. Do you not see the parallels in the Gun Culture of the US of A.  They are armed and ready to kill, and they do.  Some of the worst terrorist acts in the US were committed by white American male supremacists who hate their government .. There are whole armies of the rednecks in America, and they ALSO turn on innocents.

AND..?  what has the Christian lobby done about that.!!

IT is a simple fact of human nature, that these rogue elements are present in ALL societies.  It is just too easy to blame one religion...... war will follow,  and WHO do you bomb, if you are after these psychos and religious extremists.?
Which country would you choose this time.  Cos we've had Iraq 1 & 2  and Afghanistan 1 & 2 recently.  They apparently haven't succeeded,  so perhaps you'd like to bomb the life out of Syria, perhaps.?  Hmm? 

No one talks about the elephant in the room. Saudi Arabia.  Hey lets bomb them
.. yeah?? 

Stop being such gormless puppets for War. You guys sicken me.  :(






Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:11pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:07pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:50pm:
How does this stack up:


Quote:
Bouhlel mounted the pavement, mowing down groups at 40mph, before reportedly jumping out of the truck and opening fire as he shouted “Allahu Akbar” – God is greatest.


.....with the images we have seen of multiple bullet holes in the windscreen of the truck?  What on Earth were they firing at if the prick was out of the Cabin, and shooting.


Ummmm he got back in the truck?  Talk about thick!  The very least you could do would be to learn how to read, wot?

[quote]The driver then emerged from the truck and opened fire on the crowd, another eyewitness said. French media is now reporting the gunman got back in the driver’s seat and travelled to another populated area before starting to shoot again.

Police opened fire on the truck which crushed revellers and sent people running for their lives. The truck’s driver was shot dead.


The very least you could do is tell us how Gordy knows for a "fact" that he was yelling 'Allahu Akbar', wot?

[/quote]

Please show me a source which directly refutes that report.

I want a report which says he was not yelling snackbar.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:24pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:11pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:07pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:50pm:
How does this stack up:


Quote:
Bouhlel mounted the pavement, mowing down groups at 40mph, before reportedly jumping out of the truck and opening fire as he shouted “Allahu Akbar” – God is greatest.


.....with the images we have seen of multiple bullet holes in the windscreen of the truck?  What on Earth were they firing at if the prick was out of the Cabin, and shooting.


Ummmm he got back in the truck?  Talk about thick!  The very least you could do would be to learn how to read, wot?

[quote]The driver then emerged from the truck and opened fire on the crowd, another eyewitness said. French media is now reporting the gunman got back in the driver’s seat and travelled to another populated area before starting to shoot again.

Police opened fire on the truck which crushed revellers and sent people running for their lives. The truck’s driver was shot dead.


The very least you could do is tell us how Gordy knows for a "fact" that he was yelling 'Allahu Akbar', wot?


Please show me a source which directly refutes that report.

I want a report which says he was not yelling snackbar.[/quote]

Doesn't work  that way, Gordy.

You made the claim, and now the onus is on you to prove it.

How do you know it to be a "fact" - what evidence are you relying on?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:29pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:11pm:
The very least you could do is tell us how Gordy knows for a "fact" that he was yelling 'Allahu Akbar', wot?




Greggy - Islamic State have claimed responsibility.

What more evidence do you need?


I organised it Bobby.  I swear I did.  Convinced?




Aussie,

A moderator should not be a troll.

Now you're shooting the messenger.

forgiven

namaste

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:29pm

Quote:
How do you know it to be a "fact" - what evidence are you relying on?


The ever reliable pathetic line used relentlessly by crap, lazy Journalists that ~ "It was reported.......that the sky fell in yesterday."

Of course, they never nominate their source, 'cause that would add credibility to the claim.

Why do people get sucked in by schmedia garbage so easily?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:11pm:
The very least you could do is tell us how Gordy knows for a "fact" that he was yelling 'Allahu Akbar', wot?




Greggy - Islamic State have claimed responsibility.

What more evidence do you need?


I organised it Bobby.  I swear I did.  Convinced?




Aussie,

A moderator should not be a troll.

Now you're shooting the messenger.

forgiven

namaste


I know you got the point. 

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:24pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:11pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:07pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:50pm:
How does this stack up:


Quote:
Bouhlel mounted the pavement, mowing down groups at 40mph, before reportedly jumping out of the truck and opening fire as he shouted “Allahu Akbar” – God is greatest.


.....with the images we have seen of multiple bullet holes in the windscreen of the truck?  What on Earth were they firing at if the prick was out of the Cabin, and shooting.


Ummmm he got back in the truck?  Talk about thick!  The very least you could do would be to learn how to read, wot?

[quote]The driver then emerged from the truck and opened fire on the crowd, another eyewitness said. French media is now reporting the gunman got back in the driver’s seat and travelled to another populated area before starting to shoot again.

Police opened fire on the truck which crushed revellers and sent people running for their lives. The truck’s driver was shot dead.


The very least you could do is tell us how Gordy knows for a "fact" that he was yelling 'Allahu Akbar', wot?


Please show me a source which directly refutes that report.

I want a report which says he was not yelling snackbar.


Doesn't work  that way, Gordy.

You made the claim, and now the onus is on you to prove it.

How do you know it to be a "fact" - what evidence are you relying on?

[/quote]

See the link or find one that refutes.
I wasn't there,  you weren't there.  All we have are 3rd party reports.  So one more time, show me a rebuttal.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:36pm
I see I am being ignored, just like the elephant in the room.  :)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:41pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:24pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:11pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:07pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 8:50pm:
How does this stack up:


Quote:
Bouhlel mounted the pavement, mowing down groups at 40mph, before reportedly jumping out of the truck and opening fire as he shouted “Allahu Akbar” – God is greatest.


.....with the images we have seen of multiple bullet holes in the windscreen of the truck?  What on Earth were they firing at if the prick was out of the Cabin, and shooting.


Ummmm he got back in the truck?  Talk about thick!  The very least you could do would be to learn how to read, wot?

[quote]The driver then emerged from the truck and opened fire on the crowd, another eyewitness said. French media is now reporting the gunman got back in the driver’s seat and travelled to another populated area before starting to shoot again.

Police opened fire on the truck which crushed revellers and sent people running for their lives. The truck’s driver was shot dead.


The very least you could do is tell us how Gordy knows for a "fact" that he was yelling 'Allahu Akbar', wot?


Please show me a source which directly refutes that report.

I want a report which says he was not yelling snackbar.


Doesn't work  that way, Gordy.

You made the claim, and now the onus is on you to prove it.

How do you know it to be a "fact" - what evidence are you relying on?


I wasn't there,  you weren't there. 

[/quote]

Then how do you know it's a "fact", Gordy?

You're not just relying on "an unidentified witness reportedly heard", are you Gordy?

You've made the claim, now the onus is on you to prove it.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:42pm

Emma wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:36pm:
I see I am being ignored, just like the elephant in the room.  :)


No-one is ignoring you at all.  Well, I'm not.  You've just entered this schit fight so I guess other battles are being conducted.

Yeas, Saudia Arabia is an issue, but it too would be a toothless tiger if Uncle Sam withdrew support.

That's what I want.  The USA/and us and the rest of the West out of there, taking all aid and guns with us...and let them have their sword fights.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:48pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:11pm:
The very least you could do is tell us how Gordy knows for a "fact" that he was yelling 'Allahu Akbar', wot?




Greggy - Islamic State have claimed responsibility.

What more evidence do you need?


I organised it Bobby.  I swear I did.  Convinced?




Aussie,

A moderator should not be a troll.

Now you're shooting the messenger.

forgiven

namaste


Booby,

Did you see who the messenger is?

"ISIS-affiliated Amaq news agency"

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:49pm
Oh dear...Police in Nice have arrested a man wielding a machete on the Promenade des Anglais, the waterfront boulevard where 84 people were killed Thursday night, when a man plowed a truck into pedestrians in what French authorities are calling a terrorist attack.


https://news.vice.com/article/police-arrested-a-man-with-a-machete-at-a-vigil-for-nice-attack-victims

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 16th, 2016 at 10:01pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:11pm:
The very least you could do is tell us how Gordy knows for a "fact" that he was yelling 'Allahu Akbar', wot?




Greggy - Islamic State have claimed responsibility.

What more evidence do you need?


I organised it Bobby.  I swear I did.  Convinced?




Aussie,

A moderator should not be a troll.

Now you're shooting the messenger.

forgiven

namaste


I know you got the point. 



Aussie,
if you were truly a lawyer then you would have studied philosophy:

You can't actually prove anything.


forgiven

namaste

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 16th, 2016 at 10:03pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:42pm:

Emma wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 9:36pm:
I see I am being ignored, just like the elephant in the room.  :)


No-one is ignoring you at all.  Well, I'm not.  You've just entered this schit fight so I guess other battles are being conducted.

Yeas, Saudia Arabia is an issue, but it too would be a toothless tiger if Uncle Sam withdrew support.

That's what I want.  The USA/and us and the rest of the West out of there, taking all aid and guns with us...and let them have their sword fights.


It is a shame this thread had turned into some personal ego vs ego .. Trash, in other words.

Where is the respect due the innocents.. arguing over trash  :(


I agree that Saudi Arabia has held too much power,  for far TOO long, Aussie.

A good reason to develop alternative fuel sources,  :). 


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm

Quote:
if you were truly a lawyer then you would have studied philosophy:


Not one Lawyer I know was/is required to study philosophy to graduate.  Where did you get that wild one from?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Baronvonrort on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:02pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

Quote:
if you were truly a lawyer then you would have studied philosophy:


Not one Lawyer I know was/is required to study philosophy to graduate.  Where did you get that wild one from?


I don't think anyone here is gullible enough to believe Arsie is a lawyer.

All the lawyers i know believe taxi driving is beneath them they didn't go to uni to learn to drive cabs.



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by issuevoter on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:07pm
The BBC is stepping up its campaign to make people believe Islamic atrocities are inevitable, but not any thing to do with Islam.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36815284

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Baronvonrort on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:17pm

issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:07pm:
The BBC is stepping up its campaign to make people believe Islamic atrocities are inevitable, but not any thing to do with Islam.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36815284


The Islamic state have claimed responsibility, the Caliph Baghdaddy has a Phd in Islamic studies from Islamic university and the ignorant think it's unislamic.
The name should tell you what it is.

The ex muslim Dr Ali Sina from Iran says all a muslim needs is a spark of faith to become a terrorist.

The BBC have always been pro Islam just like most leftists.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:20pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:17pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:07pm:
The BBC is stepping up its campaign to make people believe Islamic atrocities are inevitable, but not any thing to do with Islam.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36815284


The ex muslim Dr Ali Sina from Iran says all a muslim needs is a spark of faith to become a terrorist.

The BBC have always been pro Islam just like most leftists.


Islam is the tide that floats jihadists boats.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:24pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:17pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:07pm:
The BBC is stepping up its campaign to make people believe Islamic atrocities are inevitable, but not any thing to do with Islam.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36815284


The Islamic state have claimed responsibility, the Caliph Baghdaddy has a Phd in Islamic studies from Islamic university and the ignorant think it's unislamic.
The name should tell you what it is.

The ex muslim Dr Ali Sina from Iran says all a muslim needs is a spark of faith to become a terrorist.

The BBC have always been pro Islam just like most leftists.


They tell us who they are and what they want and why they do it.

They don't tell us in some long lost language that gets screwed up in translation.  It's clear and concise.

The regressive left cry and stomp their feet and say it's not true it's not true.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Baronvonrort on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:26pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:24pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:17pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:07pm:
The BBC is stepping up its campaign to make people believe Islamic atrocities are inevitable, but not any thing to do with Islam.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36815284


The Islamic state have claimed responsibility, the Caliph Baghdaddy has a Phd in Islamic studies from Islamic university and the ignorant think it's unislamic.
The name should tell you what it is.

The ex muslim Dr Ali Sina from Iran says all a muslim needs is a spark of faith to become a terrorist.

The BBC have always been pro Islam just like most leftists.


They tell us who they are and what they want and why they do it.

They don't tell us in some long lost language that gets screwed up in translation.  It's clear and concise.

The regressive left cry and stomp their feet and say it's not true it's not true.


When Bob Carr said the vast majority of the boat people were economic migrants and not refugees the leftist bed wetters claimed that isn't what he said.

Being a leftist must involve a type of mental retardation.

For the record i am neither left or right i am centrist. :)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:29pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:26pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:24pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:17pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:07pm:
The BBC is stepping up its campaign to make people believe Islamic atrocities are inevitable, but not any thing to do with Islam.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36815284


The Islamic state have claimed responsibility, the Caliph Baghdaddy has a Phd in Islamic studies from Islamic university and the ignorant think it's unislamic.
The name should tell you what it is.

The ex muslim Dr Ali Sina from Iran says all a muslim needs is a spark of faith to become a terrorist.

The BBC have always been pro Islam just like most leftists.


They tell us who they are and what they want and why they do it.

They don't tell us in some long lost language that gets screwed up in translation.  It's clear and concise.

The regressive left cry and stomp their feet and say it's not true it's not true.


When Bob Carr said the vast majority of the boat people were economic migrants and not refugees the leftist bed wetters claimed that isn't what he said.

Being a leftist must involve a type of mental retardation.

For the record i am neither left or right i am centrist. :)


I'm an environmentalist socially left athiest islamophobe.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 17th, 2016 at 12:14am

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

Quote:
if you were truly a lawyer then you would have studied philosophy:


Not one Lawyer I know was/is required to study philosophy to graduate.  Where did you get that wild one from?




I assumed that you'd have to know something about it to
understand ethics & also ideas about evidence.

I read somewhere that you can't prove anything for certain except that you exist
but you don't even know for sure who you are.

Are the grey dots really there?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 17th, 2016 at 12:19am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 11:26pm:
Being a leftist must involve a type of mental retardation.

For the record i am neither left or right i am centrist.


You have the mental retardation, though.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 17th, 2016 at 12:21am
I see no grey dots.

You do understand what assume means, don't you?

Law and Psychology are two distinctly different fields. You have been reading too many James Patterson books.  ;D

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 17th, 2016 at 12:31am

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 1:29pm:
We need to simply start deporting the radical imams instead of tolerating their sedition. Send them back to the sand pit they crawled out of.


Absolutely!  I don't know about the USA but, in Australia, we still allow members of Hizb ut-Tahrir entry to preach their hate in our mosques,  despite Hizb ut-Tahrir being banned in Germany, Russia, China, Egypt, Turkey and all but 3 Arab countries.  It's insanity.

There's too much tolerance of Islam in the U.S., too, but at least we're not importing tens of thousands of refugees -- although it's on Hillary's wish list.

if the Cologne group-grope ever took place in, say, Texas, I can promise you that the husbands, brothers, fathers and other menfolk wouldn't be sitting around waiting for the police to handle the situation.

And frankly, it probably wouldn't be necessary, because some of the women of Texas would have already given the savages a lesson in concealed-carry self-defense -- complete with a free ticket to 72 Virgin Street.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 17th, 2016 at 12:44am
Political cartoon of the week.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUG3AWjWIAA1E1b.jpg:large






Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 17th, 2016 at 12:59am
No he was a psycho who used a trigger as an excuse to kill people.. too gutless to do himself, in his misery, he acted out.

Like the Police shootings in the US by  Johnson.. a human reaction, sadly, to perceived inequity or other personal difficulties..

It is a very human condition...  but the means of self-expression are getting a bit out of hand.

:( >:(  They should just go somewhere and die quietly at their own hand,  but nope they like to make a splash. . 

Expect more of this ....

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 17th, 2016 at 1:03am
in the name of whatever, or not.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 17th, 2016 at 6:45am

Emma wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 10:03pm:
It is a shame this thread had turned into some personal ego vs ego .. Trash, in other words.


Most, if not all threads, very quickly turn into *biffo* chat-rooms once The Usual Suspects arrive to engage in their favourite sport: tit-for-tat one-liners, which is pretty much the only reason they log into the board.

;D Good cartoon, T4E!

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:44am
This is where Western authorities are going to have to stop playing silly buggers with games of 'hide-and-seek' and 'peekaboo' with people they believe have the potential to commit mass-murder on civilian targets.


"Bouhlel was known to police for petty crimes but was not on a watch list of suspected militants.

In light of the potential for mass-murder, this sort of hand-wringing reluctance to act upon suspected terrorists in the Muslim communities - has to stop.

Anyone on a 'Watch List' should either be interned, or better still, flown out to be delivered back to their country of origin.

No more pussy-footing around with 'Human Rights' niceties that trumps the 'Human Rights' of large numbers of innocent people not deserving to be the victims of violent jihad.

****

It's surprising how many people are reported as 'missing' after this attack. How can they go 'missing'? It makes no sense.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:51am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:44am:
This is where Western authorities are going to have to stop playing silly buggers with games of 'hide-and-seek' and 'peekaboo' with people they believe have the potential to commit mass-murder on civilian targets.


"Bouhlel was known to police for petty crimes but was not on a watch list of suspected militants.

In light of the potential for mass-murder, this sort of hand-wringing reluctance to act upon suspected terrorists in the Muslim communities - has to stop.

Anyone on a 'Watch List' should either be interned, or better still, flown out to be delivered back to their country of origin.

No more pussy-footing around with 'Human Rights' niceties that trumps the 'Human Rights' of large numbers of innocent people not deserving to be the victims of violent jihad.



But this guy wasn't on a watch list so that wouldn't have helped.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:57am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:51am:
But this guy wasn't on a watch list so that wouldn't have helped.



Correct, but that wasn't the point I was making.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:59am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:51am:
But this guy wasn't on a watch list so that wouldn't have helped.



Correct, but that wasn't the point I was making.




But still - it means that we'll just have to put up with psycho killers in our midst.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 17th, 2016 at 8:03am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:59am:
But still - it means that we'll just have to put up with psycho killers in our midst.


Read my post again, especially the highlighted bit.

Draining the pool of those on the Watch List would go some way towards improving our chances of survival.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 17th, 2016 at 8:12am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 8:03am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:59am:
But still - it means that we'll just have to put up with psycho killers in our midst.


Read my post again, especially the highlighted bit.

Draining the pool of those on the Watch List would go some way towards improving our chances of survival.



It's hard to know what to do.

It would be nice to kick all Muslims out of France
but I don't see it happening.
Most of the terrorists are Muslim French people - home grown.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 17th, 2016 at 8:37am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 6:45am:

Emma wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 10:03pm:
It is a shame this thread had turned into some personal ego vs ego .. Trash, in other words.


Most, if not all threads, very quickly turn into *biffo* chat-rooms once The Usual Suspects arrive to engage in their favourite sport: tit-for-tat one-liners, which is pretty much the only reason they log into the board.

;D Good cartoon, T4E!

Thanks ... some of the comments in that cartoon sound, shall we say, "familiar."

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 17th, 2016 at 8:38am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 8:12am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 8:03am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:59am:
But still - it means that we'll just have to put up with psycho killers in our midst.


Read my post again, especially the highlighted bit.

Draining the pool of those on the Watch List would go some way towards improving our chances of survival.



It's hard to know what to do.

It would be nice to kick all Muslims out of France
but I don't see it happening.
Most of the terrorists are Muslim French people - home grown.

But although they're technically French people because of where they were born, I find very few terrorists who aren't from immigrant families (North Africa and the Middle East). It's that way in the U.S., too.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by cods on Jul 17th, 2016 at 8:41am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:59am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:51am:
But this guy wasn't on a watch list so that wouldn't have helped.



Correct, but that wasn't the point I was making.




But still - it means that we'll just have to put up with psycho killers in our midst.




ahhh you have worked it out bobs..


as we rid the streets of one another takes his place....

if we get rid of all evil we will be living in Paradise....

I dont think it will happen......

the POWER of good over evil.....

at the moment evil seems to be on the rise.

evil was crushed in WW11 through sheer power from machines......I dont think that will work this time round..

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 17th, 2016 at 8:57am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 8:12am:
It's hard to know what to do.


No it's not.

During times of war, governments intern those who might sympathise with the enemy.

After WWII, it was discovered by investigators that of the young Japanese-Americans who were interned throughout the war, about 25% admitted they would have sought to help Japan.


Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 8:12am:
It would be nice to kick all Muslims out of France


(Hang in there, Herbert - what doesn't kill you will make you stronger).

Read my post again, Bobby .. especially the highlighted part.

Those on the Watch List have 'form' in one way or another - and should be removed as an urgent priority.


Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 8:12am:
Most of the terrorists are Muslim French people - home grown.


'Home grown' says nothing about the national culture of the homes they grew up in. 'Multiculturalism' means you are officially invited to grow up in a Muslim colonist home as alien to the locals as any first generation immigrant.   

Laws can be changed in times of war, just as internment laws are brought in to deal with an exceptional circumstance.

If you have attracted enough suspicion to be on a government Watch List - then out you should go, back to your Muslim-majority ancestral homeland where you will arrive knowing the language, the music, the culture, the religion - and no doubt have a score of 'cousins' waiting to greet you.




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 17th, 2016 at 8:59am
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Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 17th, 2016 at 9:03am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 8:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 8:12am:
It's hard to know what to do.


No it's not.

During times of war, governments intern those who might sympathise with the enemy.

After WWII, it was discovered by investigators that of the young Japanese-Americans who were interned throughout the war, about 25% admitted they would have sought to help Japan.


Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 8:12am:
It would be nice to kick all Muslims out of France


(Hang in there, Herbert - what doesn't kill you will make you stronger).

Read my post again, Bobby .. especially the highlighted part.

Those on the Watch List have 'form' in one way or another - and should be removed as an urgent priority.


Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 8:12am:
Most of the terrorists are Muslim French people - home grown.


'Home grown' says nothing about the national culture of the homes they grew up in. 'Multiculturalism' means you are officially invited to grow up in a Muslim colonist home as alien to the locals as any first generation immigrant.   

Laws can be changed in times of war, just as internment laws are brought in to deal with an exceptional circumstance.

If you have attracted enough suspicion to be on a government Watch List - then out you should go, back to your Muslim-majority ancestral homeland where you will arrive knowing the language, the music, the culture, the religion - and no doubt have a score of 'cousins' waiting to greet you.




I think bringing back hanging would help.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 17th, 2016 at 9:11am

cods wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 8:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:59am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:51am:
But this guy wasn't on a watch list so that wouldn't have helped.



Correct, but that wasn't the point I was making.




But still - it means that we'll just have to put up with psycho killers in our midst.




ahhh you have worked it out bobs..


as we rid the streets of one another takes his place....

if we get rid of all evil we will be living in Paradise....

I dont think it will happen......

the POWER of good over evil.....

at the moment evil seems to be on the rise.

evil was crushed in WW11 through sheer power from machines......I dont think that will work this time round..




We could start by forcing the Muslim preachers to tell the truth:

there is no heaven waiting for anyone -

yet alone a heaven with 72 black eyed virgins for any mass murderers.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir lastnail on Jul 17th, 2016 at 9:15am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 9:11am:

cods wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 8:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:59am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:51am:
But this guy wasn't on a watch list so that wouldn't have helped.



Correct, but that wasn't the point I was making.




But still - it means that we'll just have to put up with psycho killers in our midst.




ahhh you have worked it out bobs..


as we rid the streets of one another takes his place....

if we get rid of all evil we will be living in Paradise....

I dont think it will happen......

the POWER of good over evil.....

at the moment evil seems to be on the rise.

evil was crushed in WW11 through sheer power from machines......I dont think that will work this time round..




We could start by forcing the Muslim preachers to tell the truth:

there is no heaven waiting for anyone -

yet alone a heaven with 72 black eyed virgins for any mass murderers.


god gobbers and their god gobbing muck :(

politicians need to stop pandering to this religious intolerance garbage that they call multi-multiculturalism. It just doesn't work.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 17th, 2016 at 9:18am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 9:15am:
god gobbers and their god gobbing muck :(

politicians need to stop pandering to this religious intolerance garbage that they call multi-multiculturalism. It just doesn't work.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRhq-yO1KN8

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir lastnail on Jul 17th, 2016 at 9:21am

cods wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 8:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:59am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 7:51am:
But this guy wasn't on a watch list so that wouldn't have helped.



Correct, but that wasn't the point I was making.




But still - it means that we'll just have to put up with psycho killers in our midst.




ahhh you have worked it out bobs..


as we rid the streets of one another takes his place....

if we get rid of all evil we will be living in Paradise....

I dont think it will happen......

the POWER of good over evil.....

at the moment evil seems to be on the rise.

evil was crushed in WW11 through sheer power from machines......I dont think that will work this time round..


don't forget how you lot created this isis monster in the first place with your bullshit war on terror. None of this would have happened if Suddam was still around. He used to drop them into plastic shredders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF6p6rasPvc



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 17th, 2016 at 9:25am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 9:21am:
don't forget how you lot created this isis monster in the first place with your bullshit war on terror. None of this would have happened if Suddam was still around. He used to drop them into plastic shredders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF6p6rasPvc



Saddam knew what to do.
There were no terrorists in Iraq when Saddam was there except for him.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by cods on Jul 17th, 2016 at 10:15am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 9:11am:
We could start by forcing the Muslim preachers to tell the truth:

there is no heaven waiting for anyone -

yet alone a heaven with 72 black eyed virgins for any mass murderers.




get real bobs...they havent invented the machine which can drive peoples minds...........

one day in this crazy world who knows...

you cannot stop people thinking... in fact the more you try the more they dig in...

since when do you take notice when people tell you something you really do not want to hear....you do not agree with them.. you call them names... like we all do...

some people take the Bible for gospel......


well to their version of what the Bible means.... ::) ::)


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 17th, 2016 at 11:46am

Quote:
All the lawyers i know believe taxi driving is beneath them they didn't go to uni to learn to drive cabs.


The Lawyers you know are probably legal aid hacks who are still working their arses off to pay the mortgage.   On the other hand, I have been retired for more than ten years, have no mortgage or debts, have assets including (now) one taxi licence (originally four within a year of when I retired) and they each had a value of around $500,000.00.

Wanna buy my last one?   Do you have the cash on hand. Baron Rort?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Ajax on Jul 17th, 2016 at 12:00pm

cods wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 10:15am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 9:11am:
We could start by forcing the Muslim preachers to tell the truth:

there is no heaven waiting for anyone -

yet alone a heaven with 72 black eyed virgins for any mass murderers.




get real bobs...they havent invented the machine which can drive peoples minds...........

one day in this crazy world who knows...

you cannot stop people thinking... in fact the more you try the more they dig in...

since when do you take notice when people tell you something you really do not want to hear....you do not agree with them.. you call them names... like we all do...

some people take the Bible for gospel......


well to their version of what the Bible means.... ::) ::)



What about chemically with a pill..............??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raleKODYeg0

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 17th, 2016 at 12:00pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 8:57am:
Laws can be changed in times of war, just as internment laws are brought in to deal with an exceptional circumstance.

If you have attracted enough suspicion to be on a government Watch List - then out you should go, back to your Muslim-majority ancestral homeland where you will arrive knowing the language, the music, the culture, the religion - and no doubt have a score of 'cousins' waiting to greet you.

I'm right with you on that recommendation, as I've already stated.

How many times have we heard on the news after an Islamic terrorist attack that "One of the jihadists, Mohammed Rashid Abdul al-Goatfuqi, was on the terrorist watch list of the French intelligence service after returning from a visit to Syria last year"?

To which saner people reply, "Why would you (1) let him back in the country after a visit to ISIS country and (2) spend so much time and resources trying to keep tabs on him?"

Just deport him. Find a reason, no matter how small, and if necessary rewrite the lawbook to allow it. He can file his objections from Raqqa.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 17th, 2016 at 12:13pm

Quote:
Just deport him. Find a reason, no matter how small, and if necessary rewrite the lawbook to allow it. He can file his objections from Raqqa.


Agh, yeas, another who expects people to abide by the Law and yet when it suits their purpose, out the window the Law goes and he does what he wants.

Convenient, innit?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 17th, 2016 at 12:46pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 12:13pm:

Quote:
Just deport him. Find a reason, no matter how small, and if necessary rewrite the lawbook to allow it. He can file his objections from Raqqa.


Agh, yeas, another who expects people to abide by the Law and yet when it suits their purpose, out the window the Law goes and he does what he wants.

Convenient, innit?


The hypocrisy is quite astounding.

That's something I would have expected from Herbert.

Actually, who am I kidding? That quote could have come from any one of the right wing nut jobs in this forum.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 17th, 2016 at 12:50pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

Quote:
if you were truly a lawyer then you would have studied philosophy:


Not one Lawyer I know was/is required to study philosophy to graduate.  Where did you get that wild one from?




I assumed that you'd have to know something about it to
understand ethics & also ideas about evidence.

I read somewhere that you can't prove anything for certain except that you exist
but you don't even know for sure who you are.

Are the grey dots really there?



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 17th, 2016 at 6:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 12:46pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 12:13pm:

Quote:
Just deport him. Find a reason, no matter how small, and if necessary rewrite the lawbook to allow it. He can file his objections from Raqqa.


Agh, yeas, another who expects people to abide by the Law and yet when it suits their purpose, out the window the Law goes and he does what he wants.

Convenient, innit?


The hypocrisy is quite astounding.

That's something I would have expected from Herbert.

Actually, who am I kidding? That quote could have come from any one of the right wing nut jobs in this forum.


Who?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 17th, 2016 at 6:03pm
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Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 18th, 2016 at 12:39am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 12:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

Quote:
if you were truly a lawyer then you would have studied philosophy:


Not one Lawyer I know was/is required to study philosophy to graduate.  Where did you get that wild one from?




I assumed that you'd have to know something about it to
understand ethics & also ideas about evidence.

I read somewhere that you can't prove anything for certain except that you exist
but you don't even know for sure who you are.

Are the grey dots really there?



I see no grey dots. As I have said before, so NO  the grey dots aren't there.  OK Booby?

AS WE HEAR MORE, IT BECOMES DOUBTFUL THAT HE 
( THE KILLER) WAS AT ALL RELIGIOUS.

IS  have just claimed this lone wolf as their own to get a bit of a free ride.
Howling hordes be calm.... simmer down now... this is the new world.

You want TWO Warrior RELIGIONS to live together.
Not going to happen ever.

BOTH CHRISTIANITY and ISLAM are equally responsible for the world we live in TODAY.

Someone posted IMAGINE  by John Lennon earlier.

Oh  IMAGINE if only the worlds religions consisted of Buddhists, Hindus, Taoists, Shinto, Animists, hmm having trouble thinking of any western ones.. :-? Druids? Shamanism? Wicca?

None of these religions require soldiers to proselytise ,, to spread the word, by force of arms. 

So the two dominant religions are warlike institutions which insist on world dominance.  ONLY THEIR GOD WILL DO. !!!
As THIS is the case, in fact, this world will never see peace.

As long as Christians, and Muslims hold their faith, the world's people will continue warring with themselves, willing or not.!

The slaughter and rapine will continue in the name of GOD.

If you really think about it.... ALL THE ILLS WHICH AFFLICT US NOW, are easily lain at the feet of the righteous,.

So hope.??  Nope. I can see not positive outcomes for this global society, in this context.

BAN CHRISTIANS and MUSLIMS from any office of power. Even that wouldn't work.
SORRY  my only suggestion..? 

Don't have one. :(i



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Culture Warrior on Jul 18th, 2016 at 1:26am
More equivalences from retards.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 18th, 2016 at 2:45am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 1:26am:
More equivalences from retards.



Another meaningless one-liner.
Can you put more than one pointless sentence together?.

You know..?   ;D more 4 or 5 words.??

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 18th, 2016 at 7:01am

Emma wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 12:39am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 12:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

Quote:
if you were truly a lawyer then you would have studied philosophy:


Not one Lawyer I know was/is required to study philosophy to graduate.  Where did you get that wild one from?




I assumed that you'd have to know something about it to
understand ethics & also ideas about evidence.

I read somewhere that you can't prove anything for certain except that you exist
but you don't even know for sure who you are.

Are the grey dots really there?



I see no grey dots. As I have said before, so NO  the grey dots aren't there.  OK Booby?

AS WE HEAR MORE, IT BECOMES DOUBTFUL THAT HE 
( THE KILLER) WAS AT ALL RELIGIOUS.

IS  have just claimed this lone wolf as their own to get a bit of a free ride.
Howling hordes be calm.... simmer down now... this is the new world.

You want TWO Warrior RELIGIONS to live together.
Not going to happen ever.

BOTH CHRISTIANITY and ISLAM are equally responsible for the world we live in TODAY.

Someone posted IMAGINE  by John Lennon earlier.

Oh  IMAGINE if only the worlds religions consisted of Buddhists, Hindus, Taoists, Shinto, Animists, hmm having trouble thinking of any western ones.. :-? Druids? Shamanism? Wicca?

None of these religions require soldiers to proselytise ,, to spread the word, by force of arms. 

So the two dominant religions are warlike institutions which insist on world dominance.  ONLY THEIR GOD WILL DO. !!!
As THIS is the case, in fact, this world will never see peace.

As long as Christians, and Muslims hold their faith, the world's people will continue warring with themselves, willing or not.!

The slaughter and rapine will continue in the name of GOD.

If you really think about it.... ALL THE ILLS WHICH AFFLICT US NOW, are easily lain at the feet of the righteous,.

So hope.??  Nope. I can see not positive outcomes for this global society, in this context.

BAN CHRISTIANS and MUSLIMS from any office of power. Even that wouldn't work.
SORRY  my only suggestion..? 

Don't have one. :(


Geez you are a whole new level of stupid.
Charlie Hebdo....christians were they?
The aussies in Bali nightclubs...at a hillsong gathering were they?
Curtis Cheng gunned down...on his way to church?
The teenagers in the nightclubs in Paris....all signing hymns were they
The Guys in the twin towers....holding a prayer meeting were they
The gays in their night club in orlando...praise jesus.

you, Peel, are a retard

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 18th, 2016 at 7:27am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 7:01am:

Emma wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 12:39am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2016 at 12:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

Quote:
if you were truly a lawyer then you would have studied philosophy:


Not one Lawyer I know was/is required to study philosophy to graduate.  Where did you get that wild one from?




I assumed that you'd have to know something about it to
understand ethics & also ideas about evidence.

I read somewhere that you can't prove anything for certain except that you exist
but you don't even know for sure who you are.

Are the grey dots really there?



I see no grey dots. As I have said before, so NO  the grey dots aren't there.  OK Booby?

AS WE HEAR MORE, IT BECOMES DOUBTFUL THAT HE 
( THE KILLER) WAS AT ALL RELIGIOUS.

IS  have just claimed this lone wolf as their own to get a bit of a free ride.
Howling hordes be calm.... simmer down now... this is the new world.

You want TWO Warrior RELIGIONS to live together.
Not going to happen ever.

BOTH CHRISTIANITY and ISLAM are equally responsible for the world we live in TODAY.

Someone posted IMAGINE  by John Lennon earlier.

Oh  IMAGINE if only the worlds religions consisted of Buddhists, Hindus, Taoists, Shinto, Animists, hmm having trouble thinking of any western ones.. :-? Druids? Shamanism? Wicca?

None of these religions require soldiers to proselytise ,, to spread the word, by force of arms. 

So the two dominant religions are warlike institutions which insist on world dominance.  ONLY THEIR GOD WILL DO. !!!
As THIS is the case, in fact, this world will never see peace.

As long as Christians, and Muslims hold their faith, the world's people will continue warring with themselves, willing or not.!

The slaughter and rapine will continue in the name of GOD.

If you really think about it.... ALL THE ILLS WHICH AFFLICT US NOW, are easily lain at the feet of the righteous,.

So hope.??  Nope. I can see not positive outcomes for this global society, in this context.

BAN CHRISTIANS and MUSLIMS from any office of power. Even that wouldn't work.
SORRY  my only suggestion..? 

Don't have one. :(


Geez you are a whole new level of stupid.

...

you, Peel, are a retard


Pot, meet kettle.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 18th, 2016 at 8:02am
Looks like our lone nutter had a few mates to help him out.
I wonder, per chance, were they Muzlims?

Meanwhile, French authorities released new details to local media of the last moments before the attack, suggesting Bouhlel might had accomplices. The attacker, they said, had sent a text message to someone - believed to be among those currently held for questioning - saying, "Bring more weapons."

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 18th, 2016 at 8:20am

Gordon wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 8:02am:
Looks like our lone nutter had a few mates to help him out.
I wonder, per chance, were they Muzlims?


I wonder why you're an apologist.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by gandalf on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:40pm
Sorry to jump at the 18th page without following any of the discussion, but...

Is there anything besides his name and (presumably) ethnic background which links this attack in any way to Islam?

Serious question - as I haven't seen any reports of him doing stuff like pledging loyalty to ISIS/Islamic jihadists, releasing any sort of message about fighting for Islam, meetings with radical sheikhs, Islamist propaganda on his phone/laptop etc etc...

Admittedly I haven't been following this closely, but has there been anything at all?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:44pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Sorry to jump at the 18th page without following any of the discussion, but...

Is there anything besides his name and (presumably) ethnic background which links this attack in any way to Islam?

Serious question - as I haven't seen any reports of him doing stuff like pledging loyalty to ISIS/Islamic jihadists, releasing any sort of message about fighting for Islam, meetings with radical sheikhs, Islamist propaganda on his phone/laptop etc etc...

Admittedly I haven't been following this closely, but has there been anything at all?



yes, it has been announced he recently started attending mosque and was asking to procure weaponry from other jihadists. ISIS target these angry dysfunctional types (see the lindt bomber or the kiddie who shot curtis ). Bin Laden seems to have prefered guys who had their act together and were not damaged goods. expect ISIS to go after damaged goods and use them increasingly as this is the only way ISIS can stay relevant as they lose territory.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:47pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Sorry to jump at the 18th page without following any of the discussion, but...

Is there anything besides his name and (presumably) ethnic background which links this attack in any way to Islam?

Serious question - as I haven't seen any reports of him doing stuff like pledging loyalty to ISIS/Islamic jihadists, releasing any sort of message about fighting for Islam, meetings with radical sheikhs, Islamist propaganda on his phone/laptop etc etc...

Admittedly I haven't been following this closely, but has there been anything at all?


Nothing whatsoever except the usual 'reports' of 'Allah Excalibar' when he was having his merry way.  Never attended the Mosque, drank grog and ate pork according to his neighbours....but that could all have been a cunning plan born of Taqiyya.

Sneaky tinted fella.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:48pm

Quote:
yes, it has been announced he recently started attending mosque and was asking to procure weaponry from other jihadists.


Link?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:51pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:48pm:

Quote:
yes, it has been announced he recently started attending mosque and was asking to procure weaponry from other jihadists.


Link?


just heard an expert on newsradio talking to Mark Colvin say it.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Neferti on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:55pm
It's Salad Snackbar!  ;D

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:56pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:51pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:48pm:

Quote:
yes, it has been announced he recently started attending mosque and was asking to procure weaponry from other jihadists.


Link?


just heard an expert on newsradio talking to Mark Colvin say it.


Same. Sorry team Islam, he's one of yours.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Neferti on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:59pm
What on earth is a "tinted" person?  Do you mean somebody who only has a tan in Summer?   ::)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:59pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Sorry to jump at the 18th page without following any of the discussion, but...

Is there anything besides his name and (presumably) ethnic background which links this attack in any way to Islam?

Serious question - as I haven't seen any reports of him doing stuff like pledging loyalty to ISIS/Islamic jihadists, releasing any sort of message about fighting for Islam, meetings with radical sheikhs, Islamist propaganda on his phone/laptop etc etc...

Admittedly I haven't been following this closely, but has there been anything at all?


For you and the fellow apologists and cultists it wouldnt matter, no matter the proof, because the default position is always got nuffin to do wiv Islam and they were not reaaaaaaal Muslims. 

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:00pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:44pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Sorry to jump at the 18th page without following any of the discussion, but...

Is there anything besides his name and (presumably) ethnic background which links this attack in any way to Islam?

Serious question - as I haven't seen any reports of him doing stuff like pledging loyalty to ISIS/Islamic jihadists, releasing any sort of message about fighting for Islam, meetings with radical sheikhs, Islamist propaganda on his phone/laptop etc etc...

Admittedly I haven't been following this closely, but has there been anything at all?



yes, it has been announced he recently started attending mosque and was asking to procure weaponry from other jihadists.


Link?




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:00pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:44pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Sorry to jump at the 18th page without following any of the discussion, but...

Is there anything besides his name and (presumably) ethnic background which links this attack in any way to Islam?

Serious question - as I haven't seen any reports of him doing stuff like pledging loyalty to ISIS/Islamic jihadists, releasing any sort of message about fighting for Islam, meetings with radical sheikhs, Islamist propaganda on his phone/laptop etc etc...

Admittedly I haven't been following this closely, but has there been anything at all?



yes, it has been announced he recently started attending mosque and was asking to procure weaponry from other jihadists.


Link?


hi gweg, gordon and i have told you we heard it on the ABC. are you saying the ABC is a hot bed of right wing bias ??

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:05pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:59pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Sorry to jump at the 18th page without following any of the discussion, but...

Is there anything besides his name and (presumably) ethnic background which links this attack in any way to Islam?

Serious question - as I haven't seen any reports of him doing stuff like pledging loyalty to ISIS/Islamic jihadists, releasing any sort of message about fighting for Islam, meetings with radical sheikhs, Islamist propaganda on his phone/laptop etc etc...

Admittedly I haven't been following this closely, but has there been anything at all?


For you and the fellow apologists and cultists it wouldnt matter, no matter the proof, because the default position is always got nuffin to do wiv Islam and they were not reaaaaaaal Muslims. 


The best thing to do would be to take ownership of the jihadis.

When I go on holidays and see Aussie yobos abroad, I don't pretend they're not Aussies. If I'm with people from other countries I don't try to say they're not Australians.

They're Aussie through and through, and so am I.
I like chamber music and galleries, other Aussies like VB and thugby league.

I'm yet to see anyone say that Christian fundies are not Christians.

Why does this ONLY happen with Islamists?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:06pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:00pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:44pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Sorry to jump at the 18th page without following any of the discussion, but...

Is there anything besides his name and (presumably) ethnic background which links this attack in any way to Islam?

Serious question - as I haven't seen any reports of him doing stuff like pledging loyalty to ISIS/Islamic jihadists, releasing any sort of message about fighting for Islam, meetings with radical sheikhs, Islamist propaganda on his phone/laptop etc etc...

Admittedly I haven't been following this closely, but has there been anything at all?



yes, it has been announced he recently started attending mosque and was asking to procure weaponry from other jihadists.


Link?


hi gweg, gordon and i have told you we heard it on the ABC. are you saying the ABC is a hot bed of right wing bias ??


I'm saying you and Gordon are known to lie.

Who was the "expert", and what exactly did he say?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:12pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Sorry to jump at the 18th page without following any of the discussion, but...

Is there anything besides his name and (presumably) ethnic background which links this attack in any way to Islam?

Serious question - as I haven't seen any reports of him doing stuff like pledging loyalty to ISIS/Islamic jihadists, releasing any sort of message about fighting for Islam, meetings with radical sheikhs, Islamist propaganda on his phone/laptop etc etc...

Admittedly I haven't been following this closely, but has there been anything at all?


Nothing.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:28pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Is there anything besides his name and (presumably) ethnic background which links this attack in any way to Islam?

Serious question - as I haven't seen any reports of him doing stuff like pledging loyalty to ISIS/Islamic jihadists, releasing any sort of message about fighting for Islam, meetings with radical sheikhs, Islamist propaganda on his phone/laptop etc etc...


I'm with you, gandalf. I'm finding all this Islamophobic hysteria quite nauseating.

Witnesses reported he was yelling 'Allahu Akbar' as he drove the truck through the crowd, but maybe they just imagined this.

Come on guys and gals, let's help Gandalf out here.

It's quite possible the accelerator pedal got stuck to the floor, and maybe he really was delivering ice cream just as he told the police.

As for the gun he was firing, it's my guess he was only trying to warn people ahead to get out of the way.

In the final wash-up, when all this Islamophobic hysteria has died down, I bet this guy will prove to have been a pillar of society with not a nasty bone in his body.






Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:31pm
Plenty of evidence for Gandalf,

see page 31
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1468534726/450

& here too:


The Islamic State terror group has claimed responsibility for the truck attack in Nice,


France, that left 84 people dead, according to ISIS-affiliated Amaq news agency.
Trends
Nice truck attack

RT's LIVE UPDATES on the truck attack in Nice

“The person who carried out the operation in Nice, France, to run down people was one of the soldiers of Islamic State,” Amaq said via its Telegram account.

“He carried out the operation in response to calls to target nationals of states that are part of the coalition fighting Islamic State.”


https://www.rt.com/news/351564-nice-attack-isis-claim/

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:31pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:05pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:59pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Sorry to jump at the 18th page without following any of the discussion, but...

Is there anything besides his name and (presumably) ethnic background which links this attack in any way to Islam?

Serious question - as I haven't seen any reports of him doing stuff like pledging loyalty to ISIS/Islamic jihadists, releasing any sort of message about fighting for Islam, meetings with radical sheikhs, Islamist propaganda on his phone/laptop etc etc...

Admittedly I haven't been following this closely, but has there been anything at all?


For you and the fellow apologists and cultists it wouldnt matter, no matter the proof, because the default position is always got nuffin to do wiv Islam and they were not reaaaaaaal Muslims. 


The best thing to do would be to take ownership of the jihadis.

When I go on holidays and see Aussie yobos abroad, I don't pretend they're not Aussies. If I'm with people from other countries I don't try to say they're not Australians.

They're Aussie through and through, and so am I.
I like chamber music and galleries, other Aussies like VB and thugby league.

I'm yet to see anyone say that Christian fundies are not Christians.

Why does this ONLY happen with Islamists?


;D ;D ;D

Good on you, Gordon.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by gandalf on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:36pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:56pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:51pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:48pm:

Quote:
yes, it has been announced he recently started attending mosque and was asking to procure weaponry from other jihadists.


Link?


just heard an expert on newsradio talking to Mark Colvin say it.


Same. Sorry team Islam, he's one of yours.


Sorry, but haven't heard any mention of mosque attendance, just a vague statement by the French PM that he "may" have been radicalised "very quickly".

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:36pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:36pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:56pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:51pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:48pm:

Quote:
yes, it has been announced he recently started attending mosque and was asking to procure weaponry from other jihadists.


Link?


just heard an expert on newsradio talking to Mark Colvin say it.


Same. Sorry team Islam, he's one of yours.


Sorry, but haven't heard any mention of mosque attendance, just a vague statement by the French PM that he "may" have been radicalised "very quickly".



see page 31 - are you blind?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:37pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:31pm:
Plenty of evidence for Gandalf,

see page 31
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1468534726/450

& here too:


The Islamic State terror group has claimed responsibility for the truck attack in Nice,


France, that left 84 people dead, according to ISIS-affiliated Amaq news agency.
Trends
Nice truck attack

RT's LIVE UPDATES on the truck attack in Nice

“The person who carried out the operation in Nice, France, to run down people was one of the soldiers of Islamic State,” Amaq said via its Telegram account.

“He carried out the operation in response to calls to target nationals of states that are part of the coalition fighting Islamic State.”


https://www.rt.com/news/351564-nice-attack-isis-claim/


Whilst true that ISIS has called for lone wolf attacks, to the extent they even recommended methods including running infidels over, I wouldn't take them claiming credit as the same as them having prior knowledge of an intention of action. 

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:37pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:31pm:
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“The person who carried out the operation in Nice, France, to run down people was one of the soldiers of Islamic State,” Amaq said via its Telegram account.

“He carried out the operation in response to calls to target nationals of states that are part of the coalition fighting Islamic State.”


You're a gullible fool, Booby.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:39pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:36pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:56pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:51pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:48pm:

Quote:
yes, it has been announced he recently started attending mosque and was asking to procure weaponry from other jihadists.


Link?


just heard an expert on newsradio talking to Mark Colvin say it.


Same. Sorry team Islam, he's one of yours.


Sorry, but haven't heard any mention of mosque attendance, just a vague statement by the French PM that he "may" have been radicalised "very quickly".



he seems to have come into a lot of money,
100's of thousands apparently sent thru contacts to his family in tunisia.
Are ISIS in the habit of paying people for wet work ?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by gandalf on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:40pm
Bobby - what secret just said.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:41pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:28pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Is there anything besides his name and (presumably) ethnic background which links this attack in any way to Islam?

Serious question - as I haven't seen any reports of him doing stuff like pledging loyalty to ISIS/Islamic jihadists, releasing any sort of message about fighting for Islam, meetings with radical sheikhs, Islamist propaganda on his phone/laptop etc etc...


I'm with you, gandalf. I'm finding all this Islamophobic hysteria quite nauseating.

Witnesses reported he was yelling 'Allahu Akbar' as he drove the truck through the crowd, but maybe they just imagined this.

Come on guys and gals, let's help Gandalf out here.

It's quite possible the accelerator pedal got stuck to the floor, and maybe he really was delivering ice cream just as he told the police.

As for the gun he was firing, it's my guess he was only trying to warn people ahead to get out of the way.

In the final wash-up, when all this Islamophobic hysteria has died down, I bet this guy will prove to have been a pillar of society with not a nasty bone in his body.





I think you're onto something . Maybe he was just a sales rep for.......

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Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:43pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:31pm:
Plenty of evidence for Gandalf,

see page 31
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1468534726/450

& here too:


The Islamic State terror group has claimed responsibility for the truck attack in Nice,


France, that left 84 people dead, according to ISIS-affiliated Amaq news agency.
Trends
Nice truck attack

RT's LIVE UPDATES on the truck attack in Nice

“The person who carried out the operation in Nice, France, to run down people was one of the soldiers of Islamic State,” Amaq said via its Telegram account.

“He carried out the operation in response to calls to target nationals of states that are part of the coalition fighting Islamic State.”


https://www.rt.com/news/351564-nice-attack-isis-claim/


Whilst true that ISIS has called for lone wolf attacks, to the extent they even recommended methods including running infidels over, I wouldn't take them claiming credit as the same as them having prior knowledge of an intention of action. 



ISIS brainwashes their victims over the internet.

They promise them 72 black eyed virgins in heaven if they kill infidels.
The stupid fools believe it.

Did you see 4 Corners last Monday night?

it explained everything.


All is explained here:

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2016/07/11/4496297.htm

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:43pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:31pm:
Plenty of evidence for Gandalf,

see page 31
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1468534726/450

& here too:


The Islamic State terror group has claimed responsibility for the truck attack in Nice,


France, that left 84 people dead, according to ISIS-affiliated Amaq news agency.
Trends
Nice truck attack

RT's LIVE UPDATES on the truck attack in Nice

“The person who carried out the operation in Nice, France, to run down people was one of the soldiers of Islamic State,” Amaq said via its Telegram account.

“He carried out the operation in response to calls to target nationals of states that are part of the coalition fighting Islamic State.”


https://www.rt.com/news/351564-nice-attack-isis-claim/


Whilst true that ISIS has called for lone wolf attacks, to the extent they even recommended methods including running infidels over, I wouldn't take them claiming credit as the same as them having prior knowledge of an intention of action. 


would have been my assessment as well secret but apparently he was doing trial runs for the 48 hrs leading up to it, sending texts to islamists trying to get more weapons and had suddenly acquired wealth he was sending underground to relatives abroad.
so i dont think that fits a lone wolf who just cracked. there seems to have been some planning and he was at least "inspired" by ISIS

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 18th, 2016 at 7:31pm

Quote:
100's of thousands apparently sent thru contacts to his family in tunisia.


Link?

His Old Man lives in Paris, doesn't he?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 18th, 2016 at 7:35pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

Quote:
100's of thousands apparently sent thru contacts to his family in tunisia.


Link?

His Old Man lives in Paris, doesn't he?



The terrorist behind the Bastille Day atrocity was radicalised within months and sent his Tunisian family £84,000 just days before the massacre, it was claimed on Saturday.

Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel's brother in Tunisia described receiving the fortune in cash as police swooped to arrest five suspected associates across the city of Nice

The French interior minister, Bernard Cazeneuve, said  the attacker "appears to have become radicalised very quickly" as one neighbour of his estranged wife added: "Mohamed only started visiting a mosque in April."

Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel, pictured in Nice, France
Bastile Day attacker Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel, pictured last year in Nice, France CREDIT: MATRIX
Investigators examining Bouhlel’s phone records found evidence that he was in contact with known Islamic radicals.


However, an intelligence source cautioned: “That could just be a coincidence, given the neighbourhood where he lived. Everyone knows everyone there. He seems to have known people who knew Omar Diaby (a known local Islamist believed to be linked with the Al Nusra group close to Al Qaeda)."

Jaber, brother of Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel
Jaber received money from his brother, Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel, days before the attack CREDIT: GETTY IMAGES
Relatives have reportedly claimed Bouhlel, in the days before the attack, persuaded friends to smuggle the bundles of cash back to his family in their hometown of Msaken, Tunisia.

His brother Jaber also said he had not seen his brother for several years and the money had come as a complete surprise.

Five people thought to know Bouhlel were still being questioned by police this afternoon, including his estranged wife who went to a police station of her own accord.

Among those arrested was Ramzie Arefa, 22, at his family apartment on Rue Marceau, about a mile inland from where the deadly attacks took place on July 15.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 18th, 2016 at 7:37pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 7:35pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

Quote:
100's of thousands apparently sent thru contacts to his family in tunisia.


Link?

His Old Man lives in Paris, doesn't he?



The terrorist behind the Bastille Day atrocity was radicalised within months and sent his Tunisian family £84,000 just days before the massacre, it was claimed on Saturday.


Claimed, not established?

And, do you know how to cite references, Mr Ed?



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Culture Warrior on Jul 18th, 2016 at 9:10pm

Emma wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 2:45am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 1:26am:
More equivalences from retards.



Another meaningless one-liner.
Can you put more than one pointless sentence together?.

You know..?   ;D more 4 or 5 words.??


Your post was stupid. You're free to do and act as you please in "Christian" countries but would be dead within a day in a Muslim country if you carried on there like you do here. How long would some 7th century bearded lunatic tolerate your constant criticism of their customs? Time is running out for leftards like yourself. The tide is turning.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 18th, 2016 at 9:27pm
Well done and a round of applause for  CW.  He managed more than one short sentence.   ;D

Talkin'about live in fantasy... a 7TH CENTURY MUSLIM CLERIC.???   Relevance..???. :-?

oooooh ooooh  oooooh I'm so scared.  :)  NAH,, not IS .. The man was a lone wolf , who may have taken advantage of IS..?? ;D ;D ;D

For the money for his family, maybe yeah?? 
This is a beat-up. The guy acted alone, on an intent he had had for quite a while.  Personal. 
  Who knows.. ??
Not you whatever you claim. Nor I.

BUT... rush to judgement is foolish in the world's environment, today.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Culture Warrior on Jul 18th, 2016 at 10:31pm
Do you speak English?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 18th, 2016 at 10:33pm
Do you comprehend English?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Culture Warrior on Jul 18th, 2016 at 10:42pm
Yes.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 18th, 2016 at 10:51pm
You think?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 18th, 2016 at 11:05pm
OK then.. tell me what was so stupid about one of my posts...  :) and which one it was you are referring to.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 18th, 2016 at 11:06pm
yes  I am waiting.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 18th, 2016 at 11:16pm
And please put that in Plain English. :)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 19th, 2016 at 6:55am

Emma wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 9:27pm:
Well done and a round of applause for  CW.  He managed more than one short sentence.   ;D

Talkin'about live in fantasy... a 7TH CENTURY MUSLIM CLERIC.???   Relevance..???. :-?

oooooh ooooh  oooooh I'm so scared.  :)  NAH,, not IS .. The man was a lone wolf , who may have taken advantage of IS..?? ;D ;D ;D

For the money for his family, maybe yeah?? 
This is a beat-up. The guy acted alone, on an intent he had had for quite a while.  Personal. 
  Who knows.. ??
Not you whatever you claim. Nor I.

BUT... rush to judgement is foolish in the world's environment, today.



a beat up?
I'll pass that onto the kids in ICU you sicko :'( :'(

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 19th, 2016 at 7:00am
It is possible that as a final act of reconciliation with his family back home who he hadn't visited for years, he accepted payment from ISIS (or similar) to commit this act on behalf of jihad.

Saddam Hussein made regular payments to families ($25,000) whose sons sacrificed themselves to suicidal jihad against the Israelis.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 19th, 2016 at 7:23am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 7:00am:
It is possible that as a final act of reconciliation with his family back home who he hadn't visited for years, he accepted payment from ISIS (or similar) to commit this act on behalf of jihad.

Saddam Hussein made regular payments to families ($25,000) whose sons sacrificed themselves to suicidal jihad against the Israelis.



that would seem to be the most likely scenario.
a muslim, accepting money from fundamentalist muslims to butcher children.
and the lefties still console themselves with the idea it was
"nuffink to do with muslims"

Their stance is crumbling though.

There will be more attacks, ISIS are like the IRA taken to a super charged level.
France will have to act eventually.
And it is always better to be proactive if you are going to act.
Next thing you know, some UN representative will tell the people of Nice that , being on waterfront land, the greater threat to them and their children is "climate change"  Oh dear....how disconnected .

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 19th, 2016 at 7:29am
It's caused by Islam.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 19th, 2016 at 8:39am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 7:29am:
It's caused by Islam.


Apologist.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 19th, 2016 at 8:41am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 8:39am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 7:29am:
It's caused by Islam.


Apologist.


Everyones bored of your schitch, Gweggums.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 19th, 2016 at 9:27am

Gordon wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 8:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 8:39am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 7:29am:
It's caused by Islam.


Apologist.


Everyones bored of your schitch, Gweggums.


Pack your bags, preacher of hatred.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by issuevoter on Jul 19th, 2016 at 9:47am
I got an idea. Import more of them, on the off-chance some of them will not run amok with a sharp instrument. That will be fair. Of course, if you wind-up dead, fairness might no longer have its appeal.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 19th, 2016 at 9:50am
It has to be said that this Nice jihadi certainly wasn't your conventional Muslim.


Ate pork.
Never attended the mosque until recently.
Engaged in homosexual practices.



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 19th, 2016 at 4:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 9:27am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 8:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 8:39am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 7:29am:
It's caused by Islam.


Apologist.


Everyones bored of your schitch, Gweggums.


Pack your bags, preacher of hatred.


Perhaps desist with the ad hom abuse?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 19th, 2016 at 10:30pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 7:23am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 7:00am:
It is possible that as a final act of reconciliation with his family back home who he hadn't visited for years, he accepted payment from ISIS (or similar) to commit this act on behalf of jihad.

Saddam Hussein made regular payments to families ($25,000) whose sons sacrificed themselves to suicidal jihad against the Israelis.



that would seem to be the most likely scenario.
a muslim, accepting money from fundamentalist muslims to butcher children.
and the lefties still console themselves with the idea it was
"nuffink to do with muslims"

......................................................................................Next thing you know, some UN representative will tell the people of Nice that , being on waterfront land, the greater threat to them and their children is "climate change"  Oh dear....how disconnected .



You are all talking out of your arse.

  Neither MONEY nor Islam can be claimed as the incentive. I'd not be making such claims on such limited info.   How dumb are you..?  ::)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 19th, 2016 at 10:44pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 8:39am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 7:29am:
It's caused by Islam.


Apologist.


It is much easier to have a target to blame in circumstances such as this horror in Nice. Without Islam to cop the flack, we'd have to look at ourselves.!! :o 

NOW don't get me wrong here... I do not LIKE ISLAM.

And I despise those weak men who must  lock-up their women, and torment them, in ways physical and psychological, keeping them in slavery  Can there be any doubt.??
!!!  NO NO  NO.  These are men afraid of women.  They are SO AFRAID, they do what they do. FEAR is that basis.  Sad to think of all the young girl children raped and mutilated by the old men in their town, clan, City, Nation. The customs are not Islamic, but the weak men of Islam choose to do these atrocities, under THAT cover, as excuse. AS do the terrorists. Not real Moslems at all. Sickos, and psychopaths... WHO lets face it, use Islam as an excuse for their extremes.!!.    AND these psychos EXIST in every society.

But that is not ALL of ISLAM,  any more than US  TV Evangelists who rape their flock, for money, sex and wealth are typical of ALL CHRISTIANS. Anymore than the american Christian Alliances that arm themselves with guns and explosives and  have their defensible positions, mostly aimed against their own government, as well as all the minorities, are typical CHRISTIANS.

Sweeping generalisations such as those made by Booby, for example, are too simplistic, and should not be considered as some credible reasoned response.
Quite the opposite.
This warmongering... with no expectations by the war-mongerers that they'd ever have to front up is disgusting. It is fomenting hatred in a world where we have much more than enough to go around.
AND YOU DO KNOW,,  what goes around comes around.! .

In history, Christians committed unspeakable acts upon men women and children.  Have a look at the Crusades.
Because that is how long BACK in time this particular schism in our world goes.

I wonder if anyone here on this forum could advise as to which warrior religion raised armies to go and kill , in God's name, first.

I suspect... And I would love to hear from some knowledgeable historian, when and which GOD'S army was raised first.

I think, sadly, it was the Christians Knights who first soaked the ground in the blood of the enemies of their GOD.

Am I wrong.?i

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 19th, 2016 at 11:25pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 6:55am:

Emma wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 9:27pm:
Well done and a round of applause for  CW.  He managed more than one short sentence.   ;D

Talkin'about live in fantasy... a 7TH CENTURY MUSLIM CLERIC.???   Relevance..???. :-?

oooooh ooooh  oooooh I'm so scared.  :)  NAH,, not IS .. The man was a lone wolf , who may have taken advantage of IS..?? ;D ;D ;D

For the money for his family, maybe yeah?? 
This is a beat-up. The guy acted alone, on an intent he had had for quite a while.  Personal. 
  Who knows.. ??
Not you whatever you claim. Nor I.

BUT... rush to judgement is foolish in the world's environment, today.



a beat up?
I'll pass that onto the kids in ICU you sicko :'( :'(



Give it a rest Cootie. Try something constructive.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Rhino on Jul 20th, 2016 at 12:20am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 9:50am:
It has to be said that this Nice jihadi certainly wasn't your conventional Muslim.


Ate pork.
Never attended the mosque until recently.
Engaged in homosexual practices.

And theres the thing. Many claim that most Muslims are "moderate", yet the most violent attacks are coming from the so called moderate Muslims.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Rhino on Jul 20th, 2016 at 12:22am
who cares about history Emma, its the here and now which matters. societies and cultures should evolve, ours has, theirs hasnt.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 20th, 2016 at 12:26am

Emma wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 11:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 6:55am:

Emma wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 9:27pm:
Well done and a round of applause for  CW.  He managed more than one short sentence.   ;D

Talkin'about live in fantasy... a 7TH CENTURY MUSLIM CLERIC.???   Relevance..???. :-?

oooooh ooooh  oooooh I'm so scared.  :)  NAH,, not IS .. The man was a lone wolf , who may have taken advantage of IS..?? ;D ;D ;D

For the money for his family, maybe yeah?? 
This is a beat-up. The guy acted alone, on an intent he had had for quite a while.  Personal. 
  Who knows.. ??
Not you whatever you claim. Nor I.

BUT... rush to judgement is foolish in the world's environment, today.



a beat up?
I'll pass that onto the kids in ICU you sicko :'( :'(



Give it a rest Cootie. Try something constructive.


OH  Just watched the Late Encore of The Project on 10.  I swear,  I thought of all that  Waleed Ali said....  before I saw the piece.

AND  you know what   WE see it the same way.




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 20th, 2016 at 12:28am

rhino wrote on Jul 20th, 2016 at 12:22am:
who cares about history Emma, its the here and now which matters. societies and cultures should evolve, ours has, theirs hasnt.



Well Rhino  ( Big Flappy Ears )  :)  that is indeed the problem.

Except neither have evolved, at the core.

And ignoring the past does indeed lead to a repeat. 8-)



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Rhino on Jul 20th, 2016 at 12:32am
The big problem is, we gave them money by buying their oil. All that did was allow them to escalate their primitive tribal wars by buying bigger and better weapons. Its like giving a top of the range ipad to a 5 year old. The truth is, our culture is more evolved and we need to treat them like irresponsible children.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Quantum on Jul 20th, 2016 at 1:22am

Emma wrote on Jul 20th, 2016 at 12:26am:

Emma wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 11:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 6:55am:

Emma wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 9:27pm:
Well done and a round of applause for  CW.  He managed more than one short sentence.   ;D

Talkin'about live in fantasy... a 7TH CENTURY MUSLIM CLERIC.???   Relevance..???. :-?

oooooh ooooh  oooooh I'm so scared.  :)  NAH,, not IS .. The man was a lone wolf , who may have taken advantage of IS..?? ;D ;D ;D

For the money for his family, maybe yeah?? 
This is a beat-up. The guy acted alone, on an intent he had had for quite a while.  Personal. 
  Who knows.. ??
Not you whatever you claim. Nor I.

BUT... rush to judgement is foolish in the world's environment, today.



a beat up?
I'll pass that onto the kids in ICU you sicko :'( :'(



Give it a rest Cootie. Try something constructive.


OH  Just watched the Late Encore of The Project on 10.  I swear,  I thought of all that  Waleed Ali said....  before I saw the piece.

AND  you know what   WE see it the same way.


He is full of shlt and you clearly smoke some seriously good shlt. Hardly a shock that both of you think your arse is your elbow.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 20th, 2016 at 1:48am
I wish

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 20th, 2016 at 2:15am

Emma wrote on Jul 20th, 2016 at 12:28am:

rhino wrote on Jul 20th, 2016 at 12:22am:
who cares about history Emma, its the here and now which matters. societies and cultures should evolve, ours has, theirs hasnt.



Well Rhino  ( Big Flappy Ears )  :)  that is indeed the problem.

Except neither have evolved, at the core.

And ignoring the past does indeed lead to a repeat. 8-)


My point IS... we have no claim to some sort of moral superiority.
We are the same as them. We cannot claim innocent victimhood.

We are ALL responsible for where we find ourselves today.

I am astonished and horrified that celebs are saying ..'they are afraid', here in Oz. They are saying we are all afraid ...  Ridiculous.. these media types just increase the BS hype.  I am NOT afraid of terrorist attack. Ludicrous,, and all the blah blah about how afraid these people feel is JUST FODDER for the other sides  cause. Stop feeding hysteria and fear......  Grow up and realise ,  no-one is ever SAFE...

How pathetic. Even Waleed disgusted me when he agreed about the fear being realistic. NO .. stop the bs propaganda. .

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by cods on Jul 20th, 2016 at 2:38am

Emma wrote on Jul 20th, 2016 at 2:15am:
I am astonished and horrified that celebs are saying ..'they are afraid', here in Oz. They are saying we are all afraid ...  Ridiculous.. these media types just increase the BS hype.  I am NOT afraid of terrorist attack. Ludicrous,, and all the blah blah about how afraid these people feel is JUST FODDER for the other sides  cause. Stop feeding hysteria and fear......  Grow up and realise ,  no-one is ever SAFE...

How pathetic. Even Waleed disgusted me when he agreed about the fear being realistic. NO .. stop the bs propaganda. .






it depends on what you believe is SAFE......many years ago it was SAFE for a women or child to walk the streets of this country........we have long since lost that  innocence......if my grandson is 5 minutes late coming home from school I start to worry......would I let them go to the beach unsupervised???... no I wouldnt.. yesteryear  it was the norm.....

so far I havent seen blood on my streets.by people who apparently hate our guts.because we are  not  Muslim...

must I really see that before I feel FEAR????....

yes I do feel fear fear for my grandkids.. who may very well get to see things happen in their country that have  never been seen before....

I know at least that all the children of terrorist grow up thinking a bloody death is normal......in fact its something to glorify ...

so far emma you are lucky to live in a country where you have no fear of going to a concert or a nightclub with the thought you could be blown to kingdom come...by your everyday normal terrorist...

lets hope that doesnt change anytime soon...


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 20th, 2016 at 3:05am
Indeed Cods. Thanks for your reply.

I just wish people could understand... life isn't SAFE.  Never has been.
These people are only now starting to realise that they have no guarantee of safety. I find that perplexing. That they ever were so complacent in the first place. Guess they have had an easy life and never considered outcomes..

I have never taken safety for granted, hence I have no increased fear over recent happenings overseas. We have had a golden period of time, here in OZ.  But it was never going to stay that way. There has never been any golden guarantee, regardless of your view of the past. People still got murdered.

Our isolation here in Oz no longer garners any idea of safety.
To expect safety is just a symptom of living in an unreal consumer-based society, where money answers all ills. NOW  reality bites.

This is the world today. Personally I don't go to ANY mass human events. Not my thing. I understand that people are social animals... so.  why fear ??   

I suspect..?  the actions of recent liberal governments have seriously increased the likelihood of repercussions.  We do the deed, we have to expect results , not necessarily favourable to our ultimate security. |||||  Afraid\\\\\\\\\\//???

Blame Howard, if you need to blame anyone.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 20th, 2016 at 6:50am

Emma wrote on Jul 20th, 2016 at 2:15am:

Emma wrote on Jul 20th, 2016 at 12:28am:

rhino wrote on Jul 20th, 2016 at 12:22am:
who cares about history Emma, its the here and now which matters. societies and cultures should evolve, ours has, theirs hasnt.



Well Rhino  ( Big Flappy Ears )  :)  that is indeed the problem.

Except neither have evolved, at the core.

And ignoring the past does indeed lead to a repeat. 8-)


My point IS... we have no claim to some sort of moral superiority.
We are the same as them. We cannot claim innocent victimhood.

We are ALL responsible for where we find ourselves today.

I am astonished and horrified that celebs are saying ..'they are afraid', here in Oz. They are saying we are all afraid ...  Ridiculous.. these media types just increase the BS hype.  I am NOT afraid of terrorist attack. Ludicrous,, and all the blah blah about how afraid these people feel is JUST FODDER for the other sides  cause. Stop feeding hysteria and fear......  Grow up and realise ,  no-one is ever SAFE...

How pathetic. Even Waleed disgusted me when he agreed about the fear being realistic. NO .. stop the bs propaganda. .


hi numb nuts.
I dont live in fear that i will be killed in a motor vehicle accident either.
But that doesnt mean i refuse to support the police in having random breath stops to check for drink drivers.

tell me numb nuts, when the  police pull you up for a random breath test, do you tell them to stop fear mongering?
do you tell them they are just being alcohol-o-phobics.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 20th, 2016 at 9:02am

cods wrote on Jul 20th, 2016 at 2:38am:
it depends on what you believe is SAFE......many years ago it was SAFE for a women or child to walk the streets of this country........we have long since lost that  innocence......if my grandson is 5 minutes late coming home from school I start to worry......would I let them go to the beach unsupervised???... no I wouldnt.. yesteryear  it was the norm.....




"t was Australia Day and they were to spend the day, unsupervised, at Glenelg Beach — which at the time was not unusual.

"But the three children would never be seen by their parents again."


Beaumont children - 1966


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 20th, 2016 at 9:48pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 20th, 2016 at 6:50am:

Emma wrote on Jul 20th, 2016 at 2:15am:

Emma wrote on Jul 20th, 2016 at 12:28am:

rhino wrote on Jul 20th, 2016 at 12:22am:
who cares about history Emma, its the here and now which matters. societies and cultures should evolve, ours has, theirs hasnt.



Well Rhino  ( Big Flappy Ears )  :)  that is indeed the problem.

Except neither have evolved, at the core.

And ignoring the past does indeed lead to a repeat. 8-)


My point IS... we have no claim to some sort of moral superiority.
We are the same as them. We cannot claim innocent victimhood.

We are ALL responsible for where we find ourselves today.

I am astonished and horrified that celebs are saying ..'they are afraid', here in Oz. They are saying we are all afraid ...  Ridiculous.. these media types just increase the BS hype.  I am NOT afraid of terrorist attack. Ludicrous,, and all the blah blah about how afraid these people feel is JUST FODDER for the other sides  cause. Stop feeding hysteria and fear......  Grow up and realise ,  no-one is ever SAFE...

How pathetic. Even Waleed disgusted me when he agreed about the fear being realistic. NO .. stop the bs propaganda. .


hi numb nuts.
I dont live in fear that i will be killed in a motor vehicle accident either.
But that doesnt mean i refuse to support the police in having random breath stops to check for drink drivers.

tell me numb nuts, when the  police pull you up for a random breath test, do you tell them to stop fear mongering?
do you tell them they are just being alcohol-o-phobics.


That is a poor analogy.  It has no bearing on these circumstances.  Hey apparently,  THE POLICE  did stop him, and let him go, believing his story about delivering  Ice-Cream.  :D
Not very effective eh?



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 21st, 2016 at 6:59am

Emma wrote on Jul 20th, 2016 at 9:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 20th, 2016 at 6:50am:

Emma wrote on Jul 20th, 2016 at 2:15am:

Emma wrote on Jul 20th, 2016 at 12:28am:

rhino wrote on Jul 20th, 2016 at 12:22am:
who cares about history Emma, its the here and now which matters. societies and cultures should evolve, ours has, theirs hasnt.



Well Rhino  ( Big Flappy Ears )  :)  that is indeed the problem.

Except neither have evolved, at the core.

And ignoring the past does indeed lead to a repeat. 8-)


My point IS... we have no claim to some sort of moral superiority.
We are the same as them. We cannot claim innocent victimhood.

We are ALL responsible for where we find ourselves today.

I am astonished and horrified that celebs are saying ..'they are afraid', here in Oz. They are saying we are all afraid ...  Ridiculous.. these media types just increase the BS hype.  I am NOT afraid of terrorist attack. Ludicrous,, and all the blah blah about how afraid these people feel is JUST FODDER for the other sides  cause. Stop feeding hysteria and fear......  Grow up and realise ,  no-one is ever SAFE...

How pathetic. Even Waleed disgusted me when he agreed about the fear being realistic. NO .. stop the bs propaganda. .


hi numb nuts.
I dont live in fear that i will be killed in a motor vehicle accident either.
But that doesnt mean i refuse to support the police in having random breath stops to check for drink drivers.

tell me numb nuts, when the  police pull you up for a random breath test, do you tell them to stop fear mongering?
do you tell them they are just being alcohol-o-phobics.


That is a poor analogy.  It has no bearing on these circumstances.  Hey apparently,  THE POLICE  did stop him, and let him go, believing his story about delivering  Ice-Cream.  :D
Not very effective eh?



Hey numb nuts, whats with the smiling emoticon.
Would you like to go to the Nice ICU and laugh at some of the dying children.
Tell them how funny you think it is?
Tell their parents not to be so fearful?
Tell them its all the fault of the police?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:33am
Cootie  kiss my arse.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 8:52am
The lone nut job theory is now debunked.


The truck driver who killed 84 people on a Nice beachfront had accomplices and appears to have been plotting his attack for months, the Paris prosecutor said Thursday, citing text messages, more than 1,000 phone calls and video of the attack scene on the phone of one of five people facing terror charges.

Prosecutor Francois Molins said the five suspects in custody faced preliminary terrorism charges for their alleged roles in helping 31-year-old Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel in the July 14 attack in the southern French city.

Molins’ office, which oversees terrorism investigations, opened a judicial inquiry Thursday into a battery of charges for the suspects, including complicity to murder and possessing weapons tied to a terrorist enterprise.

Details about the investigation came as France’s interior minister faced criticism that a faulty security plan may have opened the way for the truck attack and as France extended its state of emergency for six months.

The prosecutor said the investigation made “notable advances” since the Bastille Day attack by Bouhlel, a Tunisian who had been living legally in Nice for years. Bouhlel was killed by police after barrelling his 19-ton truck down Nice’s famed Promenade des Anglais, mowing down those who had come to see holiday fireworks.

The detained suspects are four men — two Franco-Tunisians, a Tunisian and an Albanian — and one woman of dual French-Albanian nationality, Molins said. One had previous convictions for drugs and petty crime.

People close to Bouhlel said he had shown no signs of radicalization until very recently. But Molins said information from Bouhlel’s phone suggested he could have been preparing an attack as far back as May 2015. One photo in his phone, taken May 25, 2015, was an article on Captagon, a drug said to be used by some jihadis before attacks.

The Islamic State group has claimed responsibility for the attack, though authorities say they have not found signs the extremist group directed it.

The probe, which involves more than 400 investigators, confirmed the attack was premediated, the prosecutor said. Telephone records were used to link the five to Bouhlel, and allegedly to support roles in the carnage.

Bouhlel and a 30-year-old French-Tunisian with no previous convictions had phoned each other 1,278 times in a year, Molins said. The prosecutor said a text message from the same man found on a phone seized at Bouhlel’s said: “I’m not Charlie; I’m happy. They have brought in the soldiers of Allah to finish the job.”

The message was dated three days after the January 2015 massacre at Charlie Hebdo, the satirical publication in Paris, and referred to the worldwide phrase of solidarity for the victims “I’m Charlie.”

Hours after the July 14 attack in Nice, the same man filmed the bloody scene on the promenade.

The aftermath of the Nice attack has seen France being torn by finger-pointing and accusations that security was wanting despite the state of emergency in place since the Paris attacks last November.

French officials defended the government’s security measures in Nice on the night of the attack, even as the interior minister acknowledged that national police were not, as he had claimed before, stationed at the entrance to the closed-off boulevard.

Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve’s clarification comes after a newspaper accused French authorities of lacking transparency in their handling of the massacre.

Cazeneuve said Thursday that only local police, who are more lightly armed, were guarding the entrance to the Promenade des Anglais when Bouhlel drove his truck down it. Cazeneuve then launched an internal police investigation into the handling of the Nice attack.

President Francois Hollande said the conclusions of that investigation will be known next week. He said any police “shortcomings” will be carefully addressed but defended French authorities’ actions.

“There’s no room for polemics, there’s only room for transparency,” he said. “The necessary, serious preparations had been made for the July 14 festivities.”

Earlier, the French newspaper Liberation said Cazeneuve lied about the whereabouts of the national police officers and cars in Nice on July 14.

The National Assembly, meanwhile, extended France’s state of emergency for six more months. The security measure had been in place since the Nov. 13 Paris attacks that killed 130 victims and were claimed by the Islamic State group.

Read more: The evolution of lone-actor terrorism: Unfortunately, success breeds imitation

Nice truck attacker had accomplices, plotted for months: French prosecutor


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/nice-truck-attacker-had-accomplices-plotted-for-months-french-prosecutor/article31047066/

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 8:52am
.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Fireball on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 9:01am
A concerted, planned, and equipped attack by Muslim Jihadi
Terrorists who fully intended to cause death and destruction to innocent civilians on a grand scale.

Irrespective of what the resident Muslim apologists have to say.

 

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Frank on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 10:46am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:42pm:
waleed is commenting.

he is analysing Pokemon Go...hard hitting journalist



Genuinely and directly linked to Darwinism
Pokemon Go is taking over the virtual world. But are there dangers we should be aware of?

Over to Dr. Khalifa Al-Makhrazi. head of the Family Consultative Council in Dubai:
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/5575.htm

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 10:49am

Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 10:46am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:42pm:
waleed is commenting.

he is analysing Pokemon Go...hard hitting journalist



Genuinely and directly linked to Darwinism
Pokemon Go is taking over the virtual world. But are there dangers we should be aware of?

Over to Dr. Khalifa Al-Makhrazi. head of the Family Consultative Council in Dubai:
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/5575.htm



I heard someone wandered into a minefield searching for charzard  ;)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:09am

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 8:52am:
The lone nut job theory is now debunked.


You seem pleased.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:17am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:09am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 8:52am:
The lone nut job theory is now debunked.


You seem pleased.


give yourself an uppercut greg,
Gordon has owned you, yet again.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Frank on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:32am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 10:49am:

Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 10:46am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 3:42pm:
waleed is commenting.

he is analysing Pokemon Go...hard hitting journalist



Genuinely and directly linked to Darwinism
Pokemon Go is taking over the virtual world. But are there dangers we should be aware of?

Over to Dr. Khalifa Al-Makhrazi. head of the Family Consultative Council in Dubai:
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/5575.htm



I heard someone wandered into a minefield searching for charzard  ;)



Well, Dr. Khalifa Al-Makhrazi may well be right then - it is natural selection at work in such cases.
Men fall from cliff playing Pokémon Go

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:47am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:09am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 8:52am:
The lone nut job theory is now debunked.


You seem pleased.


give yourself an uppercut greg,
Gordon has owned you, yet again.


This will be interesting ... how so, Mr Ed?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:56am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:47am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:09am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 8:52am:
The lone nut job theory is now debunked.


You seem pleased.


give yourself an uppercut greg,
Gordon has owned you, yet again.


This will be interesting ... how so, Mr Ed?



yawn


Post 577 in this thread.

gordon and i said we had heard an expert from deakin university saying that the guy had mobile phone limks to other jihadists, had been rehearsing the attack, had been recently attending mosque and YOU said, and i quote

gordon and aquascoot tell lies.

but you wont admit it, so , it would seem a waste of time to engage with your trolling.

go and have a chat with emma peel who thinks its funny people are fearful, with gandalf who thinks he's a lone wolf or with mothra who is probably calling deaking university to tell the ABC vetted expert he is an islamophobe  ;) ;)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:04pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:47am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:09am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 8:52am:
The lone nut job theory is now debunked.


You seem pleased.


give yourself an uppercut greg,
Gordon has owned you, yet again.


This will be interesting ... how so, Mr Ed?



yawn


Post 577 in this thread.

gordon and i said we had heard an expert from deakin university saying that the guy had mobile phone limks to other jihadists, had been rehearsing the attack, had been recently attending mosque and YOU said, and i quote

gordon and aquascoot tell lies.

but you wont admit it, so , it would seem a waste of time to engage with your trolling.


You need to learn how to quote properly, my boy.

"I'm saying you and Gordon are known to lie.

"Who was the "expert", and what exactly did he say?


And then, no answer from you.

Check ... mate!

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by issuevoter on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:05pm
The BBC is now reporting God's truck driver had five accomplices. That kind of shoots down the lone petty criminal excuse which has been touted in the media.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:04pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:47am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:09am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 8:52am:
The lone nut job theory is now debunked.


You seem pleased.


give yourself an uppercut greg,
Gordon has owned you, yet again.


This will be interesting ... how so, Mr Ed?



yawn


Post 577 in this thread.

gordon and i said we had heard an expert from deakin university saying that the guy had mobile phone limks to other jihadists, had been rehearsing the attack, had been recently attending mosque and YOU said, and i quote

gordon and aquascoot tell lies.

but you wont admit it, so , it would seem a waste of time to engage with your trolling.


You need to learn how to quote properly, my boy.

"I'm saying you and Gordon are known to lie.

"Who was the "expert", and what exactly did he say?


And then, no answer from you.

Check ... mate!


You need to start consuming more informative media instead of sources like New Matilda that just serve to reconfirm your dogmatic opinions.

Perhaps once you've been exposed to a broader range of opinions you can have a seat at the adults table.

This lesson is free.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:20pm

issuevoter wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:05pm:
The BBC is now reporting God's truck driver had five accomplices. That kind of shoots down the lone petty criminal excuse which has been touted in the media.


From all the reports I've seen and read, there was one person in the truck and he is responsible for 100% of the deaths.

Has that changed?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Fireball on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:20pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:05pm:
The BBC is now reporting God's truck driver had five accomplices. That kind of shoots down the lone petty criminal excuse which has been touted in the media.


From all the reports I've seen and read, there was one person in the truck and he is responsible for 100% of the deaths.

Has that changed?


Well haemorrhoid, you haven't "read all the reports" obviously have you, and yes it has changed to there being MORE THAN ONE person involved in this Muslim Jihadi Terrorist Attack which cost many innocent lives, and left many innocent people severely injured.

Do keep up haemorrhoid.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:04pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:47am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:09am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 8:52am:
The lone nut job theory is now debunked.


You seem pleased.


give yourself an uppercut greg,
Gordon has owned you, yet again.


This will be interesting ... how so, Mr Ed?



yawn


Post 577 in this thread.

gordon and i said we had heard an expert from deakin university saying that the guy had mobile phone limks to other jihadists, had been rehearsing the attack, had been recently attending mosque and YOU said, and i quote

gordon and aquascoot tell lies.

but you wont admit it, so , it would seem a waste of time to engage with your trolling.


You need to learn how to quote properly, my boy.

"I'm saying you and Gordon are known to lie.

"Who was the "expert", and what exactly did he say?


And then, no answer from you.

Check ... mate!



the transcript from mondays ABC interview.

apologise later.  gewggy.....


Greg barton is a professor at deakin university
this from mondays interview on radio national

GREG BARTON: It seems most likely that he was inspired by the group but there's evidence coming to light just in the last few hours that he had been radicalised in last few months.

Nice is a hotbed of recruitment to jihadi extremism and foreign terrorist fighters, so it's entirely possible that somebody in the Nice region got alongside him. He was reported as beginning to attend mosque in April and in recent weeks espousing extremist ideas.

And critically there are allegations of intercepted text messages or recovered text messages when he was asking an associate for weapons 30 minutes before launching the truck attack.

So that suggests that he wasn't radicalised by himself and he wasn't necessarily acting entirely by himself .

But it's looking more and more likely that a link with Islamic State can be established.

SARAH SEDHGI: He says Mohamed Bouhlel had a history of violence.

GREG BARTON: Look, one question that arises with an attack like Bouhlel's truck attack, it's very callous and it's very horrible, and we know this individual had a history of anger management issues and extreme violence.

He was a very damaged individual, and historically terrorists have been wary of engaging damaged individuals, they want people who are compliant and obedient and reliable. IS is different.

IS goes looking for damaged goods and turns them into weapons. And so this fits a pattern we've seen before. It certainly, in that respect, is not dissimilar to the story of Man Haron Monis and the Lindt Cafe.

IS is actually looking out, trying to call out people like Bouhlel. It requires more than propaganda, it requires getting alongside them and recruiting them at some point generally speaking but this is exactly the sort of pattern we've now begun to associate with Islamic State.

SARAH SEDHGI: Yasmina Touaibia, a political scientist from the University of Nice, says Nice is one of the main places in France where people have been recruited to fight in Syria, and where radical messages are being spread.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:32pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:04pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:47am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:09am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 8:52am:
The lone nut job theory is now debunked.


You seem pleased.


give yourself an uppercut greg,
Gordon has owned you, yet again.


This will be interesting ... how so, Mr Ed?



yawn


Post 577 in this thread.

gordon and i said we had heard an expert from deakin university saying that the guy had mobile phone limks to other jihadists, had been rehearsing the attack, had been recently attending mosque and YOU said, and i quote

gordon and aquascoot tell lies.

but you wont admit it, so , it would seem a waste of time to engage with your trolling.


You need to learn how to quote properly, my boy.

"I'm saying you and Gordon are known to lie.

"Who was the "expert", and what exactly did he say?


And then, no answer from you.

Check ... mate!


You need ...


Actually, I don't need to do a thing.

I asked who the expert was, and what it was exactly that he said, yet both of you couldn't answer.

Funny that.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:33pm

issuevoter wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:05pm:
The BBC is now reporting God's truck driver had five accomplices. That kind of shoots down the lone petty criminal excuse which has been touted in the media.



yes we shot down gwegs lone wolf ideology on monday after an expert revealed certain facts on the ABC.
still waiting for gwegs apology. ;) ;)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:37pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:20pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:05pm:
The BBC is now reporting God's truck driver had five accomplices. That kind of shoots down the lone petty criminal excuse which has been touted in the media.


From all the reports I've seen and read, there was one person in the truck and he is responsible for 100% of the deaths.

Has that changed?


Well haemorrhoid, you haven't "read all the reports" obviously have you, and yes it has changed to there being MORE THAN ONE person involved in this Muslim Jihadi Terrorist Attack which cost many innocent lives, and left many innocent people severely injured.

Do keep up haemorrhoid.


You need to learn how to read English, apologist.

From all the reports I've seen and read, there was one person in the truck and he is responsible for 100% of the deaths.

Are you now saying that there was another person in that truck, firing at the crowd?

All the latest reports still say that the driver was the only murderer, yet you are still trying to shift the blame away from him.

Why are you trying so hard to defend him - a friend, maybe?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:37pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:32pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:04pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:47am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:09am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 8:52am:
The lone nut job theory is now debunked.


You seem pleased.


give yourself an uppercut greg,
Gordon has owned you, yet again.


This will be interesting ... how so, Mr Ed?



yawn


Post 577 in this thread.

gordon and i said we had heard an expert from deakin university saying that the guy had mobile phone limks to other jihadists, had been rehearsing the attack, had been recently attending mosque and YOU said, and i quote

gordon and aquascoot tell lies.

but you wont admit it, so , it would seem a waste of time to engage with your trolling.


You need to learn how to quote properly, my boy.

"I'm saying you and Gordon are known to lie.

"Who was the "expert", and what exactly did he say?


And then, no answer from you.

Check ... mate!


You need ...


Actually, I don't need to do a thing.

I asked who the expert was, and what it was exactly that he said, yet both of you couldn't answer.

Funny that.



yawn, answered above numptie.

greg Barton.

heres his  profile
geez you are stoopid
post 646  read the transcript !!!!!!
its from the ABC !!!!!!

http://www.deakin.edu.au/profiles/greg-barton

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:43pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:33pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:05pm:
The BBC is now reporting God's truck driver had five accomplices. That kind of shoots down the lone petty criminal excuse which has been touted in the media.



yes we shot down gwegs lone wolf ideology on monday after an expert revealed certain facts on the ABC.
still waiting for gwegs apology. ;) ;)



I haven't used the term "lone wolf".

Lisa: "Ah, so, it's the work of ONE MURDERER."

Greg: "All the reports I've seen and heard so far are saying exactly that.  Yes."

And I was correct.

You owe me an apology.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Fireball on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:49pm
Obviously haemorrhoid, you have no idea what INVOLVED means have you........

Read up again arse-blister, you might just learn something.

I doubt it though, muslim apologists like you NEVER learn.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:53pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:49pm:
Obviously haemorrhoid, you have no idea what INVOLVED means have you........


I know what "murderer" means.

Lisa: "Ah, so, it's the work of ONE MURDERER."

Greg: "All the reports I've seen and heard so far are saying exactly that.  Yes."

You should pay closer attention, apologist.

You've just been owned, along with Mr Ed and the rest.

;)


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:12pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Sorry to jump at the 18th page without following any of the discussion, but...

Is there anything besides his name and (presumably) ethnic background which links this attack in any way to Islam?

Serious question - as I haven't seen any reports of him doing stuff like pledging loyalty to ISIS/Islamic jihadists, releasing any sort of message about fighting for Islam, meetings with radical sheikhs, Islamist propaganda on his phone/laptop etc etc...

Admittedly I haven't been following this closely, but has there been anything at all?


Nothing.


um, gweg, you posted this a page after gordon and i told you of the deakin university professors revelations that he was linking with other jihadists, attending mosque and rehearsing the attack.

still stand by your claim that there is "nothing" linking him to other jihadists.

you really are a whole new level of stoooopid. :D :D

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:57pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:12pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Sorry to jump at the 18th page without following any of the discussion, but...

Is there anything besides his name and (presumably) ethnic background which links this attack in any way to Islam?

Serious question - as I haven't seen any reports of him doing stuff like pledging loyalty to ISIS/Islamic jihadists, releasing any sort of message about fighting for Islam, meetings with radical sheikhs, Islamist propaganda on his phone/laptop etc etc...

Admittedly I haven't been following this closely, but has there been anything at all?


Nothing.


um, gweg, you posted this a page after gordon and i told you of the deakin university professors revelations that he was linking with other jihadists, attending mosque and rehearsing the attack.


You and Gordon don't count, though.

You had provided no evidence, so my "Nothing" was completely accurate.

Still waiting for your apology on the "lone wolf" too.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 1:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:57pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:12pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Sorry to jump at the 18th page without following any of the discussion, but...

Is there anything besides his name and (presumably) ethnic background which links this attack in any way to Islam?

Serious question - as I haven't seen any reports of him doing stuff like pledging loyalty to ISIS/Islamic jihadists, releasing any sort of message about fighting for Islam, meetings with radical sheikhs, Islamist propaganda on his phone/laptop etc etc...

Admittedly I haven't been following this closely, but has there been anything at all?


Nothing.


um, gweg, you posted this a page after gordon and i told you of the deakin university professors revelations that he was linking with other jihadists, attending mosque and rehearsing the attack.


You and Gordon don't count, though.

You had provided no evidence, so my "Nothing" was completely accurate.

Still waiting for your apology on the "lone wolf" too.


i think you should get the midwife to apologise for dropping you on your head

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 1:03pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 1:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:57pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:12pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Sorry to jump at the 18th page without following any of the discussion, but...

Is there anything besides his name and (presumably) ethnic background which links this attack in any way to Islam?

Serious question - as I haven't seen any reports of him doing stuff like pledging loyalty to ISIS/Islamic jihadists, releasing any sort of message about fighting for Islam, meetings with radical sheikhs, Islamist propaganda on his phone/laptop etc etc...

Admittedly I haven't been following this closely, but has there been anything at all?


Nothing.


um, gweg, you posted this a page after gordon and i told you of the deakin university professors revelations that he was linking with other jihadists, attending mosque and rehearsing the attack.


You and Gordon don't count, though.

You had provided no evidence, so my "Nothing" was completely accurate.

Still waiting for your apology on the "lone wolf" too.


i think you should get the midwife to apologise for dropping you on your head


I didn't use the term "lone wolf", Mr Ed.

I said there was one murderer, and I was correct.

You apology is due before sunset today.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 1:29pm
Oh look greegy wants to win an argument on the basis of pedantry

Here are the facts we know so far.

One operative drove the truck
Several operatives now in custody assisted with finance and logistics
Blame goes to team Islam.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 1:33pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 1:29pm:
Here are the facts we know so far ...


1. Greg said there was one murderer.

2. There was one murderer.

3. Gordy is shifting the blame away from the murderer.




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 1:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 1:33pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 1:29pm:
Here are the facts we know so far ...


1. Greg said there was one murderer.

2. There was one murderer.

3. Gordy is shifting the blame away from the murderer.


Did he have logistical support?
A yes or no answer would be super.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:00pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 1:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 1:33pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 1:29pm:
Here are the facts we know so far ...


1. Greg said there was one murderer.

2. There was one murderer.

3. Gordy is shifting the blame away from the murderer.


Did he have logistical support?
A yes or no answer would be super.


Why are you so keen to shift the blame away from murderers, Gordy?




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:08pm
.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:34pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 1:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 1:33pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 1:29pm:
Here are the facts we know so far ...


1. Greg said there was one murderer.

2. There was one murderer.

3. Gordy is shifting the blame away from the murderer.


Did he have logistical support?
A yes or no answer would be super.


Greg is not equipped to do anything much beyond simple.  Anything with more than one factor baffles him.  No point in even asking really,  Gregg doesn't do inquiry into precursors, nor anything complex.

He is much more comfortable leaving it at one murderer and anything beyond that his brain snaps shut.

Gregg is happiest just posting pictures from his collection and Benny Hill innuendo.   :)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:34pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:08pm:
.


Excellent point, however, you didn't answer my question.

Why are you so keen to shift the blame away from the murderer?

"Blame goes to team Islam." Gordooon, 2016

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:36pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:34pm:
He is much more comfortable leaving it at one murderer ...


I'm more than happy to be corrected, but hitherto all reports say there was only one murderer.

If I'm wrong, I'll gladly admit to it.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:08pm:
.


Excellent point, however, you didn't answer my question.

Why are you so keen to shift the blame away from the murderer?

"Blame goes to team Islam." Gordooon, 2016



you might like to take it up with the ABC expert and professor Greg barton who states that islamic state are seeking out damaged individuals to use them as weapons.
Send a copy of your CV to radio national and see if they are interested in your opinions.

Emma peel is on today, explaining why she thinks its incredibly funny that people fear attacks such as Nice. She will be debating the parents of some of the dead children, i look forward to her arguments on how they are just irrationally fearful people who should be laughed at .

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Rhino on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:41pm
To be a murderer you dont have to be the one committing the actual physical act, providing logistical support is enough to sustain a charge of murder, theres plenty of precedent for that. So if this guy had support from others who also intended people to die from their actions they  are all indeed murderers. I hope this clears that up.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:43pm

rhino wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:41pm:
To be a murderer you dont have to be the one committing the actual physical act, providing logistical support is enough to sustain a charge of murder, theres plenty of precedent for that. So if this guy had support from others who also intended people to die from their actions they  are all indeed murderers. I hope this clears that up.


I'm more than happy to be corrected, but hitherto all reports say there was only one murderer, correct?


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:44pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:08pm:
.


Excellent point, however, you didn't answer my question.

Why are you so keen to shift the blame away from the murderer?

"Blame goes to team Islam." Gordooon, 2016



you might like to take it up with the ABC expert and professor Greg barton who states that islamic state are seeking out damaged individuals to use them as weapons.


Yes, but they're not shifting the blame away from the murderer.

Gordon is.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 3:21pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:40pm:
Emma peel is on today, explaining why she thinks its incredibly funny that people fear attacks such as Nice.


From The Avengers?    :-/

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 3:24pm
gweggary,

let me clear this up for you.
we, men, are supposed to be the protectors of the women and the children.

now, when an members of a "death cult"  enlist damaged individuals to kill our women and children,
we, as men, need to go to the source of this evil and destroy it.

So, we now have ample evidence from many many attacks that radical islamists mean to kill our women and children.

As rightards, the noble wolves of our society, we must seek out and destroy every radical islamist here on planet earth.

it is a cowardly beta - male narrative to suggest anything other then this course of action.

all that is required for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing, or in your case for beta males to be pedantic.

no one is saying you have to be at the cutting edge where the metal meets the meat, but we embolden evil every day, hour , minute we do not act.

So every radical islamist has to be destroyed and you can cower in the corner covered with a sheet and we'll tell you when the job is done.

The job is going to be a big one and i understand that laziness and cowardice are always the easy option but, as i have said, there is the right way to do something and there is the easy way. the right way is nearly always harder.

We dont need to offend or ostracize of victimise any muslims, except the ones who mean to do us harm.

Identifying who these are will require their co operation.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 3:27pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 3:24pm:
gweggary,

let me clear this up for you.
we, men, are supposed to be the protectors of the women and the children.

now, when an members of a "death cult"  enlist damaged individuals to kill our women and children,
we, as men, need to go to the source of this evil and destroy it.

So, we now have ample evidence from many many attacks that radical islamists mean to kill our women and children.

As rightards, the noble wolves of our society, we must seek out and destroy every radical islamist here on planet earth.

it is a cowardly beta - male narrative to suggest anything other then this course of action.

all that is required for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing, or in your case for beta males to be pedantic.

no one is saying you have to be at the cutting edge where the metal meets the meat, but we embolden evil every day, hour , minute we do not act.

So every radical islamist has to be destroyed and you can cower in the corner covered with a sheet and we'll tell you when the job is done.

The job is going to be a big one and i understand that laziness and cowardice are always the easy option but, as i have said, there is the right way to do something and there is the easy way. the right way is nearly always harder.

We dont need to offend or ostracize of victimise any muslims, except the ones who mean to do us harm.

Identifying who these are will require their co operation.


Just to clarify:

Hitherto, all reports say there was only one murderer, correct?

Gordy is shifting the blame away from the murderer, correct?

Diana Rigg was on the radio discussing terrorism?



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Fireball on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 3:50pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 3:24pm:
gweggary,

let me clear this up for you.
we, men, are supposed to be the protectors of the women and the children.

now, when an members of a "death cult"  enlist damaged individuals to kill our women and children,
we, as men, need to go to the source of this evil and destroy it.

So, we now have ample evidence from many many attacks that radical islamists mean to kill our women and children.

As rightards, the noble wolves of our society, we must seek out and destroy every radical islamist here on planet earth.

it is a cowardly beta - male narrative to suggest anything other then this course of action.

all that is required for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing, or in your case for beta males to be pedantic.

no one is saying you have to be at the cutting edge where the metal meets the meat, but we embolden evil every day, hour , minute we do not act.

So every radical islamist has to be destroyed and you can cower in the corner covered with a sheet and we'll tell you when the job is done.

The job is going to be a big one and i understand that laziness and cowardice are always the easy option but, as i have said, there is the right way to do something and there is the easy way. the right way is nearly always harder.

We dont need to offend or ostracize of victimise any muslims, except the ones who mean to do us harm.

Identifying who these are will require their co operation.


Haemorrhoid is very far from being a "man".

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 3:58pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 3:24pm:
gweggary,

let me clear this up for you.
we, men, are supposed to be the protectors of the women and the children.

now, when an members of a "death cult"  enlist damaged individuals to kill our women and children,
we, as men, need to go to the source of this evil and destroy it.

So, we now have ample evidence from many many attacks that radical islamists mean to kill our women and children.

As rightards, the noble wolves of our society, we must seek out and destroy every radical islamist here on planet earth.

it is a cowardly beta - male narrative to suggest anything other then this course of action.

all that is required for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing, or in your case for beta males to be pedantic.

no one is saying you have to be at the cutting edge where the metal meets the meat, but we embolden evil every day, hour , minute we do not act.

So every radical islamist has to be destroyed and you can cower in the corner covered with a sheet and we'll tell you when the job is done.

The job is going to be a big one and i understand that laziness and cowardice are always the easy option but, as i have said, there is the right way to do something and there is the easy way. the right way is nearly always harder.

We dont need to offend or ostracize of victimise any muslims, except the ones who mean to do us harm.

Identifying who these are will require their co operation.


Mr Ed:

Hitherto, all reports say there was only one murderer, correct?

Gordy is shifting the blame away from that murderer, correct?

Diana Rigg was on the radio discussing terrorism? What the ... ?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:43pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:41pm:
To be a murderer you dont have to be the one committing the actual physical act, providing logistical support is enough to sustain a charge of murder, theres plenty of precedent for that. So if this guy had support from others who also intended people to die from their actions they  are all indeed murderers. I hope this clears that up.


I'm more than happy to be corrected, but hitherto all reports say there was only one murderer, correct?


You're logic is lacking, Greggy. It's ok, we all know your're doing your little pedantry dance.

Lets examine another scenario.

Person A hires person B to perform a contract killing.
Person B does the contract killing while person A is on holiday in Tahiti.

Person B is caught red handed at the scene, confesses and  spills the beans on person A and there is overwhelming evidence to corroborate it.

Person A goes to jail.

According to your logic, there is only one actual murderer so no need extend the investigation as doing so would be blame shifting.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:19pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:16pm:
According to your logic, there is only one actual murderer so no need extend the investigation as doing so would be blame shifting.


I'd be interested in seeing where I said that.

So, hitherto, all reports say there was only one murderer, correct?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:20pm
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Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:19pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:16pm:
According to your logic, there is only one actual murderer so no need extend the investigation as doing so would be blame shifting.


I'd be interested in seeing where I said that.

So, hitherto, all reports say there was only one murderer, correct?


One operative drove the truck.
Several operatives provided finance and logistical support, if found guilty they will be given sentences equal to murder as they are equally culpable.

This little bit of help to clear things up for you is free.
Now get your head out of New Matilda.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:25pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:19pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:16pm:
According to your logic, there is only one actual murderer so no need extend the investigation as doing so would be blame shifting.


I'd be interested in seeing where I said that.

So, hitherto, all reports say there was only one murderer, correct?


One operative drove the truck.
Several operatives provided finance and logistical support, if found guilty they will be given sentences equal to murder as they are equally culpable.

This little bit of help to clear things up for you is free.
Now get your head out of New Matilda.


So, hitherto, all reports say there was only one murderer, correct?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:25pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:19pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:16pm:
According to your logic, there is only one actual murderer so no need extend the investigation as doing so would be blame shifting.


I'd be interested in seeing where I said that.

So, hitherto, all reports say there was only one murderer, correct?


One operative drove the truck.
Several operatives provided finance and logistical support, if found guilty they will be given sentences equal to murder as they are equally culpable.

This little bit of help to clear things up for you is free.
Now get your head out of New Matilda.


So, hitherto, all reports say there was only one murderer, correct?


The most important thing is that it now seems ALL of the operatives of this ISIS operation have been caught. Isn't that fabulous news? Do you think that's fabulous news?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Frank on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:20pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:05pm:
The BBC is now reporting God's truck driver had five accomplices. That kind of shoots down the lone petty criminal excuse which has been touted in the media.


From all the reports I've seen and read, there was one person in the truck and he is responsible for 100% of the deaths.

Has that changed?



What they are trying to get into your thick head is that he was alone in the truck but he was NOT  alone when planning the whole outrage.  Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?



http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/bastille-day-killer-mohamed-lahouaiej-bouhlel-had-support-accomplices-prosecutor/news-story/c25df6f368ad052f78f14c3b733b0088

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:13pm

Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:20pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:05pm:
The BBC is now reporting God's truck driver had five accomplices. That kind of shoots down the lone petty criminal excuse which has been touted in the media.


From all the reports I've seen and read, there was one person in the truck and he is responsible for 100% of the deaths.

Has that changed?



What they are trying to get into your thick head is that he was alone in the truck but he was alone when planning the whole outrage.  Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?



http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/bastille-day-killer-mohamed-lahouaiej-bouhlel-had-support-accomplices-prosecutor/news-story/c25df6f368ad052f78f14c3b733b0088


I really can't believe there is anyone here who is so stupid or ignorant not to know what an accomplice or accessory is, especially Mr Peccerry.  There have been five others taken into custody, plus schmedia hype and speculation.....nothing concrete except......one murdering arsehole drove that truck.

End.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Frank on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:25pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:19pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:16pm:
According to your logic, there is only one actual murderer so no need extend the investigation as doing so would be blame shifting.


I'd be interested in seeing where I said that.

So, hitherto, all reports say there was only one murderer, correct?


One operative drove the truck.
Several operatives provided finance and logistical support, if found guilty they will be given sentences equal to murder as they are equally culpable.

This little bit of help to clear things up for you is free.
Now get your head out of New Matilda.


So, hitherto, all reports say there was only one murderer, correct?



No, not correct.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Frank on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:20pm
Nice attacker did not act alone and planned atrocity for months ...
Express.co.uk-14 hours ago
THE terrorist who killed 84 people in Nice as he ploughed a truck through families celebrating Bastille Day did not act alone, authorities have ...
Bastille Day killer Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel 'had support ...
NEWS.com.au-8 hours ago
Accomplices spent months helping Nice truck killer prepare attack ...
RT-9 hours ago
French prosecutor says killer of 84 in Nice had accomplices and ...
Los Angeles Times-10 hours ago
Paris Truck Attacker Didn't Act Alone
FOX News Radio (blog)-13 hours ago
Nice attack: planned in advance with accomplices
International-euronews-10 hours ago




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Frank on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:23pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:13pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:20pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:05pm:
The BBC is now reporting God's truck driver had five accomplices. That kind of shoots down the lone petty criminal excuse which has been touted in the media.


From all the reports I've seen and read, there was one person in the truck and he is responsible for 100% of the deaths.

Has that changed?



What they are trying to get into your thick head is that he was alone in the truck but he was NOT alone when planning the whole outrage.  Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?



http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/bastille-day-killer-mohamed-lahouaiej-bouhlel-had-support-accomplices-prosecutor/news-story/c25df6f368ad052f78f14c3b733b0088


I really can't believe there is anyone here who is so stupid or ignorant not to know what an accomplice or accessory is, especially Mr Peccerry.  There have been five others taken into custody, plus schmedia hype and speculation.....nothing concrete except......one murdering arsehole drove that truck.

End.

WHy does gwegwy insist on such idiocies? I bet he is typing his stupid posts with one hand.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:26pm

Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Nice attacker did not act alone and planned atrocity for months ...
Express.co.uk-14 hours ago
THE terrorist who killed 84 people in Nice as he ploughed a truck through families celebrating Bastille Day did not act alone, authorities have ...
Bastille Day killer Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel 'had support ...
NEWS.com.au-8 hours ago
Accomplices spent months helping Nice truck killer prepare attack ...
RT-9 hours ago
French prosecutor says killer of 84 in Nice had accomplices and ...
Los Angeles Times-10 hours ago
Paris Truck Attacker Didn't Act Alone
FOX News Radio (blog)-13 hours ago
Nice attack: planned in advance with accomplices
International-euronews-10 hours ago


Has anyone been charged?  The answer is......nah.  You'll at least get somewhere if someone is charged.  Until then, all this is wild schmedia and perhaps even 'DPP' posturing to the crowd who want to hear this prick did not act alone.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:33pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:26pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Nice attacker did not act alone and planned atrocity for months ...
Express.co.uk-14 hours ago
THE terrorist who killed 84 people in Nice as he ploughed a truck through families celebrating Bastille Day did not act alone, authorities have ...
Bastille Day killer Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel 'had support ...
NEWS.com.au-8 hours ago
Accomplices spent months helping Nice truck killer prepare attack ...
RT-9 hours ago
French prosecutor says killer of 84 in Nice had accomplices and ...
Los Angeles Times-10 hours ago
Paris Truck Attacker Didn't Act Alone
FOX News Radio (blog)-13 hours ago
Nice attack: planned in advance with accomplices
International-euronews-10 hours ago


Has anyone been charged?  The answer is......nah.  You'll at least get somewhere if someone is charged.  Until then, all this is wild schmedia and perhaps even 'DPP' posturing to the crowd who want to hear this prick did not act alone.



Prosecutor Francois Molins said the five suspects in custody faced preliminary terrorism charges for their alleged roles in helping 31-year-old Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel in the July 14 attack in the southern French city.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Yadda on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:55pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:33pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:26pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Nice attacker did not act alone and planned atrocity for months ...
Express.co.uk-14 hours ago
THE terrorist who killed 84 people in Nice as he ploughed a truck through families celebrating Bastille Day did not act alone, authorities have ...
Bastille Day killer Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel 'had support ...
NEWS.com.au-8 hours ago
Accomplices spent months helping Nice truck killer prepare attack ...
RT-9 hours ago
French prosecutor says killer of 84 in Nice had accomplices and ...
Los Angeles Times-10 hours ago
Paris Truck Attacker Didn't Act Alone
FOX News Radio (blog)-13 hours ago
Nice attack: planned in advance with accomplices
International-euronews-10 hours ago


Has anyone been charged?  The answer is......nah.  You'll at least get somewhere if someone is charged.  Until then, all this is wild schmedia and perhaps even 'DPP' posturing to the crowd who want to hear this prick did not act alone.



Prosecutor Francois Molins said the five suspects in custody faced preliminary terrorism charges for their alleged roles in helping 31-year-old Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel in the July 14 attack in the southern French city.



And prosecutor Francois Molins said that he is going to call for sentences of harsh slapping on the wrists,        .....of all of those persons who are found guilty of being involved in this criminal conspiracy!!!!

No ?         :o





p.s.
Gordon,

Less with the crayons and large print mate!

:)           ;D



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Aussie on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 6:04pm
Notice these well chosen and deliberate words, Yadda?


Quote:
faced preliminary terrorism charges for their alleged roles


He did not say they had been charged.  He was being very cute and the usual parade of vvankers jump on the hook, as was intended.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Yadda on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 6:14pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 6:04pm:
Notice these well chosen and deliberate words, Yadda?


Quote:
faced preliminary terrorism charges for their alleged roles


He did not say they had been charged.  He was being very cute and the usual parade of vvankers jump on the hook, as was intended.



Yeah, but 'Aussie',        ......compare their circumstance with those who have been charged with involvement [or for their 'support' of] in the attempted coup, in Turkey.

i.e.
WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE,         ......in Turkey, against the 10's of thousands who have been accused of complicity, in the attempted coup, in Turkey ?



France = = RULE OF SECULAR LAW [and under the scrutiny by every section of society in France]

Turkey = = INFLUENCE OF ISLAM


QUESTION;
Are those accused in Turkey, likely to have a fair hearing in an ISLAMIC court ?


"The punishment of those who......strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world..."
Koran 5.33


"Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who stir up sedition in the City....whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain (without mercy)."
Koran 33.60,61



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Yadda on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 6:15pm
bump

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Yadda on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 6:15pm
bump

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Frank on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 6:31pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:26pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Nice attacker did not act alone and planned atrocity for months ...
Express.co.uk-14 hours ago
THE terrorist who killed 84 people in Nice as he ploughed a truck through families celebrating Bastille Day did not act alone, authorities have ...
Bastille Day killer Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel 'had support ...
NEWS.com.au-8 hours ago
Accomplices spent months helping Nice truck killer prepare attack ...
RT-9 hours ago
French prosecutor says killer of 84 in Nice had accomplices and ...
Los Angeles Times-10 hours ago
Paris Truck Attacker Didn't Act Alone
FOX News Radio (blog)-13 hours ago
Nice attack: planned in advance with accomplices
International-euronews-10 hours ago


Has anyone been charged?  The answer is......nah.  You'll at least get somewhere if someone is charged.  Until then, all this is wild schmedia and perhaps even 'DPP' posturing to the crowd who want to hear this prick did not act alone.


;D ;D ;D
You and Gweggy ARE the two short planks on these boards!!!


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 6:37pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:47am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:09am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 8:52am:
The lone nut job theory is now debunked.


You seem pleased.


give yourself an uppercut greg,
Gordon has owned you, yet again.


This will be interesting ... how so, Mr Ed?




go and have a chat with emma peel who thinks its funny people are fearful, with gandalf who thinks he's a lone wolf or with mothra who is probably calling deaking university to tell the ABC vetted expert he is an islamophobe  ;) ;)


Pity you don't understand English very well. My emoticon was a comment on your stupid analogy,  AND
it is not FUNNY to be fearful, but I think it is a waste of people's emotional health for people to fear these attacks, to the extent that they are almost sure THEY will suffer.

You have to get a grip people, because everyone of you who expresses their fear validates the actions of terrorists in the perpetrators own minds. You hand them immense satisfaction. I'd prefer that people handled this like the Brits did during the Blitz.

You are admitting they have you in the palms of their hands. Why give them that satisfaction.?  :(

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 6:48pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 6:04pm:
Notice these well chosen and deliberate words, Yadda?


Quote:
faced preliminary terrorism charges for their alleged roles


He did not say they had been charged.  He was being very cute and the usual parade of vvankers jump on the hook, as was intended.


Yayyesss ozzywozzy.

We know the information to date is not sufficient to lock them up and throw away the key.
It is however enough to get a pretty good indication of  how it's heading and stimulate a debate between a  a few plebs in OzPol
But just in case you haven't noticed, OzPol isn't the supreme Court ofthe universe so the burden of proof to start a discussion doesn't need to be absolute.
I reallyhope this helps.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Fireball on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 6:50pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 6:04pm:
Notice these well chosen and deliberate words, Yadda?


Quote:
faced preliminary terrorism charges for their alleged roles


He did not say they had been charged.  He was being very cute and the usual parade of vvankers jump on the hook, as was intended.


Only two vvankers here Bushy, you and haemorrhoid.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 7:01pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:33pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:26pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Nice attacker did not act alone and planned atrocity for months ...
Express.co.uk-14 hours ago
THE terrorist who killed 84 people in Nice as he ploughed a truck through families celebrating Bastille Day did not act alone, authorities have ...
Bastille Day killer Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel 'had support ...
NEWS.com.au-8 hours ago
Accomplices spent months helping Nice truck killer prepare attack ...
RT-9 hours ago
French prosecutor says killer of 84 in Nice had accomplices and ...
Los Angeles Times-10 hours ago
Paris Truck Attacker Didn't Act Alone
FOX News Radio (blog)-13 hours ago
Nice attack: planned in advance with accomplices
International-euronews-10 hours ago


Has anyone been charged?  The answer is......nah.  You'll at least get somewhere if someone is charged.  Until then, all this is wild schmedia and perhaps even 'DPP' posturing to the crowd who want to hear this prick did not act alone.



Prosecutor Francois Molins said the five suspects in custody faced preliminary terrorism charges for their alleged roles in helping 31-year-old Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel in the July 14 attack in the southern French city.


behead them and all their families

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 7:13pm

Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:25pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:19pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:16pm:
According to your logic, there is only one actual murderer so no need extend the investigation as doing so would be blame shifting.


I'd be interested in seeing where I said that.

So, hitherto, all reports say there was only one murderer, correct?


One operative drove the truck.
Several operatives provided finance and logistical support, if found guilty they will be given sentences equal to murder as they are equally culpable.

This little bit of help to clear things up for you is free.
Now get your head out of New Matilda.


So, hitherto, all reports say there was only one murderer, correct?



No, not correct.


Liar.

Only one murderer, so far.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 7:15pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 7:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:33pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:26pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Nice attacker did not act alone and planned atrocity for months ...
Express.co.uk-14 hours ago
THE terrorist who killed 84 people in Nice as he ploughed a truck through families celebrating Bastille Day did not act alone, authorities have ...
Bastille Day killer Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel 'had support ...
NEWS.com.au-8 hours ago
Accomplices spent months helping Nice truck killer prepare attack ...
RT-9 hours ago
French prosecutor says killer of 84 in Nice had accomplices and ...
Los Angeles Times-10 hours ago
Paris Truck Attacker Didn't Act Alone
FOX News Radio (blog)-13 hours ago
Nice attack: planned in advance with accomplices
International-euronews-10 hours ago


Has anyone been charged?  The answer is......nah.  You'll at least get somewhere if someone is charged.  Until then, all this is wild schmedia and perhaps even 'DPP' posturing to the crowd who want to hear this prick did not act alone.



Prosecutor Francois Molins said the five suspects in custody faced preliminary terrorism charges for their alleged roles in helping 31-year-old Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel in the July 14 attack in the southern French city.


behead them and all their families


Put them in a monster truck arena and watch them run

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 7:16pm

Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:23pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:13pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:20pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:05pm:
The BBC is now reporting God's truck driver had five accomplices. That kind of shoots down the lone petty criminal excuse which has been touted in the media.


From all the reports I've seen and read, there was one person in the truck and he is responsible for 100% of the deaths.

Has that changed?



What they are trying to get into your thick head is that he was alone in the truck but he was NOT alone when planning the whole outrage.  Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?



http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/bastille-day-killer-mohamed-lahouaiej-bouhlel-had-support-accomplices-prosecutor/news-story/c25df6f368ad052f78f14c3b733b0088


I really can't believe there is anyone here who is so stupid or ignorant not to know what an accomplice or accessory is, especially Mr Peccerry.  There have been five others taken into custody, plus schmedia hype and speculation.....nothing concrete except......one murdering arsehole drove that truck.

End.

WHy does gwegwy insist on such idiocies? I bet he is typing his stupid posts with one hand.


I've never insisted that he had no accomplices.

Try to keep up.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 7:27pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 7:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:33pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:26pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Nice attacker did not act alone and planned atrocity for months ...
Express.co.uk-14 hours ago
THE terrorist who killed 84 people in Nice as he ploughed a truck through families celebrating Bastille Day did not act alone, authorities have ...
Bastille Day killer Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel 'had support ...
NEWS.com.au-8 hours ago
Accomplices spent months helping Nice truck killer prepare attack ...
RT-9 hours ago
French prosecutor says killer of 84 in Nice had accomplices and ...
Los Angeles Times-10 hours ago
Paris Truck Attacker Didn't Act Alone
FOX News Radio (blog)-13 hours ago
Nice attack: planned in advance with accomplices
International-euronews-10 hours ago


Has anyone been charged?  The answer is......nah.  You'll at least get somewhere if someone is charged.  Until then, all this is wild schmedia and perhaps even 'DPP' posturing to the crowd who want to hear this prick did not act alone.



Prosecutor Francois Molins said the five suspects in custody faced preliminary terrorism charges for their alleged roles in helping 31-year-old Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel in the July 14 attack in the southern French city.


behead them and all their families


and anyone who denies the severity of this action.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Honky on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 7:31pm
And anybody who has ever seen his face.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 7:38pm

Quote:
Prosecutor Francois Molins said the five suspects in custody faced preliminary terrorism charges for their alleged roles
in helping 31-year-old Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel in the July 14 attack in the southern French city.



hang em and hang em high.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDgZiyfRIdU

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 7:38pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:31pm:
The most important thing is that it now seems ALL of the operatives of this ISIS operation have been caught. Isn't that fabulous news? Do you think that's fabulous news?


Absolutely. Splendid news.

The police asked them if there was anyone else involved, and they said "no officer - it's just us lot".

It's a lucky thing that these alleged criminals are so honest, isn't it Gordy?



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by RandomWalk on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:03pm
Things are really messed up in France :-?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by issuevoter on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:06pm
Its a clear case of racial profiling.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Gordon on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:11pm
B

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 12:04am

issuevoter wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:06pm:
Its a clear case of racial profiling.


Yeah,  :) ;)  when it ought to be a case of mental health assessment.
AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE...  IS is a haven for psychopaths, and nothing more. They are not religious, they are clearly using that as a cover for the actions their mania requires, and we shouldn't give them any more  power by reacting the way we have. WE are giving them power by being taken in by their abhorrent and aberrant behaviour.

Face it, governments are responsible for much more death destruction and deaths of innocents, than terrorists ever have been, or are likely to. IS is on the way out, and STOP FEEDING the flame FWITS.






Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:55am

Emma wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 12:04am:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:06pm:
Its a clear case of racial profiling.


Yeah,  :) ;)  when it ought to be a case of mental health assessment.
AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE...  IS is a haven for psychopaths, and nothing more. They are not religious, they are clearly using that as a cover for the actions their mania requires, and we shouldn't give them any more  power by reacting the way we have. WE are giving them power by being taken in by their abhorrent and aberrant behaviour.

Face it, governments are responsible for much more death destruction and deaths of innocents, than terrorists ever have been, or are likely to. IS is on the way out, and STOP FEEDING the flame FWITS.


again just stupidity.
we are giving them power by being weak.
you seem to think we shouldnt respond to their behaviour because it gives them power over us.

that is so rediculous.

its almost telling a child on the ground being kicked in the head by a bully that reacting to the bully will just give the bully power over you, so just take the beating.

its like saying domestic violence is only done by psychopaths and we just give them way too much power by being taken in by their abhorent behaviour.

That is 100 % completely wrong.

We need to up the ante 100 fold.
We need to have cctv in every mosque, undercover agents with beards , bugs on phones and even the mere hint of someone planning to harm us.....
(the guy in Nice apparently had over 1000 messages on his phone discussing his plans)
we need to ring Vladamir Putin and ask his advice on what to do.

you see france and germany and brussels are soft targets and a bully loves a soft target.

Russia has been at war with islamic radicals for years, they have lots of guns.
Putin has said that he wont have a bar of anyone preaching sharia in his country...mention it and your off to the gulag. He has had russian bombers bombing the crap out of ISIS. he supports Assad.

And do the muslim bullies attack Vlad,  no, they attack the soft targets, they attack the soft target like the targets with the consistency of Emma peels brain.
They attack weakness. You and Merkel and everyone preaching your ideology of cowardice truly do have blood on your hands.

To say people are over reacting,  man that is crazy, this is a war,  the weak leadership are under reacting.

i look forward to more flowers and teddy bears in munich, more butchered children, more president obama saying how sad he is.

get on the phone to Vlad and get some advice you pussies

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 7:04am

Quote:
Prosecutor Francois Molins said the five suspects in custody faced preliminary terrorism charges for their alleged roles
in helping 31-year-old Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel in the July 14 attack in the southern French city.



hang em and hang em high.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDgZiyfRIdU

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Frank on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 5:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 7:16pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:23pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:13pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:20pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:05pm:
The BBC is now reporting God's truck driver had five accomplices. That kind of shoots down the lone petty criminal excuse which has been touted in the media.


From all the reports I've seen and read, there was one person in the truck and he is responsible for 100% of the deaths.

Has that changed?



What they are trying to get into your thick head is that he was alone in the truck but he was NOT alone when planning the whole outrage.  Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?



http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/bastille-day-killer-mohamed-lahouaiej-bouhlel-had-support-accomplices-prosecutor/news-story/c25df6f368ad052f78f14c3b733b0088


I really can't believe there is anyone here who is so stupid or ignorant not to know what an accomplice or accessory is, especially Mr Peccerry.  There have been five others taken into custody, plus schmedia hype and speculation.....nothing concrete except......one murdering arsehole drove that truck.

End.

WHy does gwegwy insist on such idiocies? I bet he is typing his stupid posts with one hand.


I've never insisted that he had no accomplices.

Try to keep up.

Well, what crazy irrelevance ARE you insisting on this time??



Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Frank on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 5:44pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:55am:

Emma wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 12:04am:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:06pm:
Its a clear case of racial profiling.


Yeah,  :) ;)  when it ought to be a case of mental health assessment.
AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE...  IS is a haven for psychopaths, and nothing more. They are not religious, they are clearly using that as a cover for the actions their mania requires, and we shouldn't give them any more  power by reacting the way we have. WE are giving them power by being taken in by their abhorrent and aberrant behaviour.

Face it, governments are responsible for much more death destruction and deaths of innocents, than terrorists ever have been, or are likely to. IS is on the way out, and STOP FEEDING the flame FWITS.


again just stupidity.
we are giving them power by being weak.
you seem to think we shouldnt respond to their behaviour because it gives them power over us.

that is so rediculous.

its almost telling a child on the ground being kicked in the head by a bully that reacting to the bully will just give the bully power over you, so just take the beating.

its like saying domestic violence is only done by psychopaths and we just give them way too much power by being taken in by their abhorent behaviour.

That is 100 % completely wrong.

We need to up the ante 100 fold.
We need to have cctv in every mosque, undercover agents with beards , bugs on phones and even the mere hint of someone planning to harm us.....
(the guy in Nice apparently had over 1000 messages on his phone discussing his plans)
we need to ring Vladamir Putin and ask his advice on what to do.

you see france and germany and brussels are soft targets and a bully loves a soft target.

Russia has been at war with islamic radicals for years, they have lots of guns.
Putin has said that he wont have a bar of anyone preaching sharia in his country...mention it and your off to the gulag. He has had russian bombers bombing the crap out of ISIS. he supports Assad.

And do the muslim bullies attack Vlad,  no, they attack the soft targets, they attack the soft target like the targets with the consistency of Emma peels brain.
They attack weakness. You and Merkel and everyone preaching your ideology of cowardice truly do have blood on your hands.

To say people are over reacting,  man that is crazy, this is a war,  the weak leadership are under reacting.

i look forward to more flowers and teddy bears in munich, more butchered children, more president obama saying how sad he is.

get on the phone to Vlad and get some advice you pussies

Just so.

The correct way to notice bullies, in the school yard and the world stage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B20uNgcmxok

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 5:53pm
So funny - that's the last time that skinny little twerp will try to be a bully.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:19pm

Frank wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 5:44pm:
again just stupidity.we are giving them power by being weak.you seem to think we shouldnt respond to their behaviour because it gives them power over us.that is so rediculous.its almost telling a child on the ground being kicked in the head by a bully that reacting to the bully will just give the bully power over you, so just take the beating.


Once again, you show your inability to understand English.  You just can't understand can you, so blinded by your fear and hate.  Good grief charley brown. Nowhere have I said what you seem to have gotten from my posts.
It is in fact the opposite. I am saying.. (I'll try again) that displaying weakness through fear is the WRONG way to respond.

I am saying that all the fearful people are empowering IS.  WHY do you find it so hard to understand what I am saying. I even refer to the way the Brits fought back, during the blitz.

YOU need to have a look at yourself, if you  keep getting it so wrong. Does your dislike of me override your intelligence.
  I say show  NO WEAKNESS  NO FEAR. Why is that hard to get..??  Because I'm NOT saying  Hang 'em HIGH..??

You are seriously deficient in the 'little grey cells'. FWIT. 

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:22pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:55am:

Emma wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 12:04am:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 11:06pm:
Its a clear case of racial profiling.


Yeah,  :) ;)  when it ought to be a case of mental health assessment.
AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE...  IS is a haven for psychopaths, and nothing more. They are not religious, they are clearly using that as a cover for the actions their mania requires, and we shouldn't give them any more  power by reacting the way we have. WE are giving them power by being taken in by their abhorrent and aberrant behaviour.

Face it, governments are responsible for much more death destruction and deaths of innocents, than terrorists ever have been, or are likely to. IS is on the way out, and STOP FEEDING the flame FWITS.


again just stupidity.
we are giving them power by being weak.
you seem to think we shouldnt respond to their behaviour because it gives them power over us.

that is so rediculous.

its almost telling a child on the ground being kicked in the head by a bully that reacting to the bully will just give the bully power over you, so just take the beating.

its like saying domestic violence is only done by psychopaths and we just give them way too much power by being taken in by their abhorent behaviour.

That is 100 % completely wrong.

We need to up the ante 100 fold.
We need to have cctv in every mosque, undercover agents with beards , bugs on phones and even the mere hint of someone planning to harm us.....
(the guy in Nice apparently had over 1000 messages on his phone discussing his plans)
we need to ring Vladamir Putin and ask his advice on what to do.

you see france and germany and brussels are soft targets and a bully loves a soft target.

Russia has been at war with islamic radicals for years, they have lots of guns.
Putin has said that he wont have a bar of anyone preaching sharia in his country...mention it and your off to the gulag. He has had russian bombers bombing the crap out of ISIS. he supports Assad.

And do the muslim bullies attack Vlad,  no, they attack the soft targets, they attack the soft target like the targets with the consistency of Emma peels brain.
They attack weakness. You and Merkel and everyone preaching your ideology of cowardice truly do have blood on your hands.

To say people are over reacting,  man that is crazy, this is a war,  the weak leadership are under reacting.

i look forward to more flowers and teddy bears in munich, more butchered children, more president obama saying how sad he is.

get on the phone to Vlad and get some advice you pussies



X 2

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:31pm
which means what?  you agree with me two times over, I guess. At least you are not an idiot.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 7:15pm

Frank wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 5:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 7:16pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:23pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:13pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:20pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:05pm:
The BBC is now reporting God's truck driver had five accomplices. That kind of shoots down the lone petty criminal excuse which has been touted in the media.


From all the reports I've seen and read, there was one person in the truck and he is responsible for 100% of the deaths.

Has that changed?



What they are trying to get into your thick head is that he was alone in the truck but he was NOT alone when planning the whole outrage.  Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?



http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/bastille-day-killer-mohamed-lahouaiej-bouhlel-had-support-accomplices-prosecutor/news-story/c25df6f368ad052f78f14c3b733b0088


I really can't believe there is anyone here who is so stupid or ignorant not to know what an accomplice or accessory is, especially Mr Peccerry.  There have been five others taken into custody, plus schmedia hype and speculation.....nothing concrete except......one murdering arsehole drove that truck.

End.

WHy does gwegwy insist on such idiocies? I bet he is typing his stupid posts with one hand.


I've never insisted that he had no accomplices.

Try to keep up.

Well, what crazy irrelevance ARE you insisting on this time??


No irrelevancies.

There was one murderer.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Fireball on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 7:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 7:15pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 5:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 7:16pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:23pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:13pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:20pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:05pm:
The BBC is now reporting God's truck driver had five accomplices. That kind of shoots down the lone petty criminal excuse which has been touted in the media.


From all the reports I've seen and read, there was one person in the truck and he is responsible for 100% of the deaths.

Has that changed?



What they are trying to get into your thick head is that he was alone in the truck but he was NOT alone when planning the whole outrage.  Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?



http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/bastille-day-killer-mohamed-lahouaiej-bouhlel-had-support-accomplices-prosecutor/news-story/c25df6f368ad052f78f14c3b733b0088


I really can't believe there is anyone here who is so stupid or ignorant not to know what an accomplice or accessory is, especially Mr Peccerry.  There have been five others taken into custody, plus schmedia hype and speculation.....nothing concrete except......one murdering arsehole drove that truck.

End.

WHy does gwegwy insist on such idiocies? I bet he is typing his stupid posts with one hand.


I've never insisted that he had no accomplices.

Try to keep up.

Well, what crazy irrelevance ARE you insisting on this time??


No irrelevancies.

There was one murderer.


You're the biggest 'irrelevancy' on this forum haemorrhoid.




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 7:36pm
I reckon GP has relevant comments to make. It is the right of people to speak their minds on this forum.  If I think someone,  say like you Fball , is a fool, I will say so. :) And I do hereby say so.
It is a given that much of what people post is a stir.  If it is stupid, it needs to be Addressed.!!! :)
A bit of fun isn't it?. :)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:18pm
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Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:19pm
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Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:19pm
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Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:23pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:55am:
again just stupidity.
we are giving them power by being weak.
you seem to think we shouldnt respond to their behaviour because it gives them power over us.

that is so rediculous.

its almost telling a child on the ground being kicked in the head by a bully that reacting to the bully will just give the bully power over you, so just take the beating.

its like saying domestic violence is only done by psychopaths and we just give them way too much power by being taken in by their abhorent behaviour.

That is 100 % completely wrong.

We need to up the ante 100 fold.
We need to have cctv in every mosque, undercover agents with beards , bugs on phones and even the mere hint of someone planning to harm us.....
(the guy in Nice apparently had over 1000 messages on his phone discussing his plans)
we need to ring Vladamir Putin and ask his advice on what to do.

you see france and germany and brussels are soft targets and a bully loves a soft target.

Russia has been at war with islamic radicals for years, they have lots of guns.
Putin has said that he wont have a bar of anyone preaching sharia in his country...mention it and your off to the gulag. He has had russian bombers bombing the crap out of ISIS. he supports Assad.

And do the muslim bullies attack Vlad,  no, they attack the soft targets, they attack the soft target like the targets with the consistency of Emma peels brain.
They attack weakness. You and Merkel and everyone preaching your ideology of cowardice truly do have blood on your hands.

To say people are over reacting,  man that is crazy, this is a war,  the weak leadership are under reacting.

get on the phone to Vlad and get some advice you pussies



good post

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:30pm
Keep on deleting yourself Booby :)

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Black Orchid on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:35pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:55am:
[

get on the phone to Vlad and get some advice you pussies


He is certainly my choice to sort things out. 

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:58pm
Move to Russia then .
Weak people love a dictator 'cos then they don't have to think for themselves. They can become a part of a greater evil. They can belong.  :(

Hence the Creeps popularity. In this case I refer to either Putin or The Creep.

Pathetic weak sheep.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 24th, 2016 at 12:39am
Bleet bleet

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 24th, 2016 at 1:25am
Bleet bleet bleet

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 24th, 2016 at 1:28am
Bleet Bleet Bleet Baaaaa

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by The Heartless Felon on Jul 24th, 2016 at 10:39am

Emma wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 1:28am:
Bleet Bleet Bleet Baaaaa


Is that a Kiwi accent?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 24th, 2016 at 10:48am

Emma wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:58pm:
Move to Russia then .
Weak people love a dictator 'cos then they don't have to think for themselves. They can become a part of a greater evil. They can belong.  :(

Hence the Creeps popularity. In this case I refer to either Putin or The Creep.

Pathetic weak sheep.


weak people love to light candles when they feel all emotional.
they like to fly flags at half mast because it doesnt require any guts to do that.
they like to put teddy bears at the memorial.

tell me Emma, do you think the dead children will get all the teddy bears?

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by Emma Peel on Jul 24th, 2016 at 9:50pm
why ask me such a meaningless question?
Dead people get nothing.
It is the living that bear the cost.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by aquascoot on Jul 25th, 2016 at 7:12am

Emma wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 9:50pm:
why ask me such a meaningless question?
Dead people get nothing.
It is the living that bear the cost.



That would seem to be the case.
Dead people get nothing from the leftard.
From Vladamir, they would at least recieve justice.

Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 25th, 2016 at 7:44am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 7:12am:

Emma wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 9:50pm:
why ask me such a meaningless question?
Dead people get nothing.
It is the living that bear the cost.



That would seem to be the case.
Dead people get nothing from the leftard.
From Vladamir, they would at least recieve justice.


Dead people can't receive justice.

Have another slice of pizza, you dolt.


Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by issuevoter on Jul 25th, 2016 at 8:01am
The New York Times is carrying an article by David Reiff called the Long War on Terror. It is essentially a restating of the standard liberal response to ugly atrocities in that it does not say Muzlim once. Its all nice and tidy under such terminologies as lone wolf and ISIS.

In the usual effort to be fair to everyone, Reiff uses all the objectivity he can, except that he is almost deaf to the concerns of those who want to defend themselves. To him, they are merely xenophobes. He is all very intellectual about it, but fails to see that it is precisely this view that divides the West; not the rejection of Muzlim immigration.

In conclusion Reiff claims, that we have to accept increasing numbers of atrocities in public places to maintain what he calls “our humanity.” Reiff's attitude is beginning to spread in the liberal media,  which equates to the appeasement of Islam on an institutional level. There are a lot of people who will accept it, but if this is allowed to go national, we and the USA are in deeper do-do than might seem obvious. Ali Akbah!

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/24/opinion/sunday/the-long-war-on-terror.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=0




Title: Re: Bastille Day attack in France
Post by issuevoter on Jul 25th, 2016 at 12:28pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/24/opinion/sunday/the-long-war-on-terror.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=0

The New York Times is carrying an article by David Reiff called the Long War on Terror. It is essentially a restating of the standard liberal/ left response to ugly atrocities in that it does not say Muzlim once. Its all nice and tidy under such terminologies as lone wolf and ISIS.

In the usual effort to be fair to everyone, Reiff uses all the objectivity he can, except that he is almost deaf to the concerns of those who want to defend themselves. To him, they are merely xenophobes. He is all very intellectual about it, but fails to see that it is precisely this view that divides the West; not the rejection of Muzlim immigration.

In his conclusion Reiff claims that we have to accept increasing numbers of atrocities in public places to maintain what he calls “our humanity.” Reiff's attitude is beginning to spread in the liberal media,  which equated to the appeasement of Islam on an institutional level. There are a lot of people who will accept it, but if this is allowed to go national, we and the USA are in deeper do-do than might seem obvious.



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