As long as you adopt our policies and implement them.  Even though we didn't win government. :D

australias future is with asia.
we need to ramp up our economic ties and become the source of food, of good clean tourism, of financial services, of insurance services, of higher education.

This is where the value is.

In order to do this we have to start thinking like asians.

we need to become very aspirational, develop a strong work ethic , value education and hard work and family.
value building our businesses.

The labor party with its welfare mentality, its demanding union mentality , its borrowing mentality , its social justice hand wringing mentality and its leaning and cry baby mentality has no place to play in developing these opportunities. The asian business people would look at the labor party and shake their head in disbelief

aquascoot wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 9:57am:

australias future is with asia. we need to ramp up our economic ties and become the source of food, of good clean tourism, of financial services, of insurance services, of higher education. This is where the value is. In order to do this we have to start thinking like asians. we need to become very aspirational, develop a strong work ethic , value education and hard work and family. value building our businesses. The labor party with its welfare mentality, its demanding union mentality , its borrowing mentality , its social justice hand wringing mentality and its leaning and cry baby mentality has no place to play in developing these opportunities. The asian business people would look at the labor party and shake their head in disbelief

OMG its the keating mentality...
Wakey wakey Scoot we aren't Asian we are not in Asia...  we are Australian...  we don't need to be anybody else.
Australians are amongst the hardest workers in the world...  what rock have you been living under?


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A long work hours culture November 25, 2009  Anneli Knight     Although many of us still cling to the idealistic view that we live in the land of the long weekend, Australians are among the hardest workers in the world. http://www.smh.com.au/business/clevel/a-long-work-hours-culture-20091125-jrbw.html#ixzz4E9Ef3KH7

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Give us a break: Australia is hard at work Tim Colebatch Economics editor, Canberra July 7, 2005 Even with four weeks' annual leave, Australians are already the hardest-worked citizens in the Western world. We bear an average workload of 1855 hours a year - more than workers in the United States, Japan or anywhere in Europe http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/give-us-a-break-australia-is-hard-at-work/2005/07/06/1120329502555.html

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Australians Work Super Hard Despite Laid-back Reputation: Report Brigid Delaney | GlobalPost 2009 MELBOURNE — What comes to mind when you think of Australia? A relaxed, laidback lifestyle? The laconic Crocodile Dundee character? A place of endless barbeques, where the sun’s always shining and the beach always beckoning? Think again. Recent studies have shown that Australia is a nation of strivers, not skivers (that’s Aussie slang for “lazy”). They are among the most overworked people in the world, more at home behind a desk than catching a wave. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/24/australians-work-super-ha_n_267004.html

Isn't it time you woke up and adjusted you beliefs to the real world?

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 9:46am:

As long as you adopt our policies and implement them.  Even though we didn't win government. :D

And why shouldn't they? It's not as if the Liberals have many policies of their own.

Bam wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 10:10am:

Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 9:46am: As long as you adopt our policies and implement them.  Even though we didn't win government. :D And why shouldn't they? It's not as if the Liberals have many policies of their own.

They do - you just don't like them because they don't have an ALP logo on them.

Bam wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 10:10am:

Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 9:46am: As long as you adopt our policies and implement them.  Even though we didn't win government. :D And why shouldn't they? It's not as if the Liberals have many policies of their own.

Are you being deliberately obtuse bam? :D

Bam wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 10:10am:

Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 9:46am: As long as you adopt our policies and implement them.  Even though we didn't win government. :D And why shouldn't they? It's not as if the Liberals have many policies of their own.

hilarious when you join minority groups to block block block..........thats when you reap what you sow...

labor got us into this mess.......now they should hang their heads in shame and do their best to help no matter who the govt is... to get us out of it... ;D ;D

of course we dont expect any lefty to see that point of view.

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 10:09am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 9:57am: australias future is with asia. we need to ramp up our economic ties and become the source of food, of good clean tourism, of financial services, of insurance services, of higher education. This is where the value is. In order to do this we have to start thinking like asians. we need to become very aspirational, develop a strong work ethic , value education and hard work and family. value building our businesses. The labor party with its welfare mentality, its demanding union mentality , its borrowing mentality , its social justice hand wringing mentality and its leaning and cry baby mentality has no place to play in developing these opportunities. The asian business people would look at the labor party and shake their head in disbelief OMG its the keating mentality... Wakey wakey Scoot we aren't Asian we are not in Asia...  we are Australian...  we don't need to be anybody else. Australians are amongst the hardest workers in the world...  what rock have you been living under? Quote: A long work hours culture November 25, 2009  Anneli Knight     Although many of us still cling to the idealistic view that we live in the land of the long weekend, Australians are among the hardest workers in the world. http://www.smh.com.au/business/clevel/a-long-work-hours-culture-20091125-jrbw.html#ixzz4E9Ef3KH7 [quote]Give us a break: Australia is hard at work Tim Colebatch Economics editor, Canberra July 7, 2005 Even with four weeks' annual leave, Australians are already the hardest-worked citizens in the Western world. We bear an average workload of 1855 hours a year - more than workers in the United States, Japan or anywhere in Europe http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/give-us-a-break-australia-is-hard-at-work/2005/07/06/1120329502555.html

Quote:

Australians Work Super Hard Despite Laid-back Reputation: Report Brigid Delaney | GlobalPost 2009 MELBOURNE — What comes to mind when you think of Australia? A relaxed, laidback lifestyle? The laconic Crocodile Dundee character? A place of endless barbeques, where the sun’s always shining and the beach always beckoning? Think again. Recent studies have shown that Australia is a nation of strivers, not skivers (that’s Aussie slang for “lazy”). They are among the most overworked people in the world, more at home behind a desk than catching a wave. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/24/australians-work-super-ha_n_267004.html

Isn't it time you woke up and adjusted you beliefs to the real world?
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I see, amongst the hardest workers in the world you say.
this might explain chinese telecom moving all its call centre jobs to australia.

And i see that toyota are closing all their plants in japan and relocating to geelong becuase our unionised workforce is SOOOO hard working.

And Apple , microsoft and google are setting up a silicon valley technology hub in bathurst thanks to our elite, entrepreneurial, dynamic and aspirational workforce.

cods wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 10:26am:

Bam wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 10:10am: Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 9:46am: As long as you adopt our policies and implement them.  Even though we didn't win government. :D And why shouldn't they? It's not as if the Liberals have many policies of their own. hilarious when you join minority groups to block block block..........thats when you reap what you sow... labor got us into this mess.......now they should hang their heads in shame and do their best to help no matter who the govt is... to get us out of it... ;D ;D of course we dont expect any lefty to see that point of view.

But you won!  You got three more years!  What more do you whingers want?
You lot have had your three years of "Blame Labor"   All you have done is made it WORSE!  When are the Coalition going to admit the last three years were a complete disaster and DO something positive to get us back on o?ur feet ?

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Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 10:16am:

Bam wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 10:10am: Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 9:46am: As long as you adopt our policies and implement them.  Even though we didn't win government. :D And why shouldn't they? It's not as if the Liberals have many policies of their own. Are you being deliberately obtuse bam? :D

If you disagree, please provide details on the Liberals' industrial relations policies. Policies that they promised to release before the election but somehow never saw the light of day.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 10:38am:

I see, amongst the hardest workers in the world you say. this might explain chinese telecom moving all its call centre jobs to australia. And i see that toyota are closing all their plants in japan and relocating to geelong becuase our unionised workforce is SOOOO hard working.

told you you'd been kicked in the head by your horse ... those things don't prove we aren't hard working, they prove labor is cheaper elsewhere.

friggen jackass

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 9:46am:

As long as you adopt our policies and implement them.  Even though we didn't win government. :D

what are you crying about now Goose? anything in particular or did your masters simply tell you to start some  anti labor threads?

aquascoot wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 10:38am:

Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 10:09am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 9:57am: australias future is with asia. we need to ramp up our economic ties and become the source of food, of good clean tourism, of financial services, of insurance services, of higher education. This is where the value is. In order to do this we have to start thinking like asians. we need to become very aspirational, develop a strong work ethic , value education and hard work and family. value building our businesses. The labor party with its welfare mentality, its demanding union mentality , its borrowing mentality , its social justice hand wringing mentality and its leaning and cry baby mentality has no place to play in developing these opportunities. The asian business people would look at the labor party and shake their head in disbelief OMG its the keating mentality... Wakey wakey Scoot we aren't Asian we are not in Asia...  we are Australian...  we don't need to be anybody else. Australians are amongst the hardest workers in the world...  what rock have you been living under? Quote: A long work hours culture November 25, 2009  Anneli Knight     Although many of us still cling to the idealistic view that we live in the land of the long weekend, Australians are among the hardest workers in the world. http://www.smh.com.au/business/clevel/a-long-work-hours-culture-20091125-jrbw.html#ixzz4E9Ef3KH7 [quote]Give us a break: Australia is hard at work Tim Colebatch Economics editor, Canberra July 7, 2005 Even with four weeks' annual leave, Australians are already the hardest-worked citizens in the Western world. We bear an average workload of 1855 hours a year - more than workers in the United States, Japan or anywhere in Europe http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/give-us-a-break-australia-is-hard-at-work/2005/07/06/1120329502555.html [quote]Australians Work Super Hard Despite Laid-back Reputation: Report Brigid Delaney | GlobalPost 2009 MELBOURNE — What comes to mind when you think of Australia? A relaxed, laidback lifestyle? The laconic Crocodile Dundee character? A place of endless barbeques, where the sun’s always shining and the beach always beckoning? Think again. Recent studies have shown that Australia is a nation of strivers, not skivers (that’s Aussie slang for “lazy”). They are among the most overworked people in the world, more at home behind a desk than catching a wave. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/24/australians-work-super-ha_n_267004.html

Isn't it time you woke up and adjusted you beliefs to the real world?
[/quote]


I see, amongst the hardest workers in the world you say.
this might explain chinese telecom moving all its call centre jobs to australia.

And i see that toyota are closing all their plants in japan and relocating to geelong becuase our unionised workforce is SOOOO hard working.

And Apple , microsoft and google are setting up a silicon valley technology hub in bathurst thanks to our elite, entrepreneurial, dynamic and aspirational workforce.[/quote]
Oh dear....  just financial decisions Scoot, just the bottom line...  we don't pay slave wages in Australia, we are more civilized.

And we still work hard...  must have been hard for you to ignore all the factual information provided.

If you do that all the time I won't be wasting my time on you. :D

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 12:59pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 9:46am: As long as you adopt our policies and implement them.  Even though we didn't win government. :D what are you crying about now Goose? anything in particular or did your masters simply tell you to start some  anti labor threads?

Nope, personally they are so alike it doesn't really matter much who gets in...  I do want that plebiscite though.  I believe in real democracy...  something you and Labor apparently don't. :D :D :D

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 12:58pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 10:38am: I see, amongst the hardest workers in the world you say. this might explain chinese telecom moving all its call centre jobs to australia. And i see that toyota are closing all their plants in japan and relocating to geelong becuase our unionised workforce is SOOOO hard working. told you you'd been kicked in the head by your horse ... those things don't prove we aren't hard working, they prove labor is cheaper elsewhere. friggen jackass

I agree with Johnboy, even though he's a Troll with anger management issues ;D
He can't be wrong all the time right? ::)

Hey is that 4 now? ;)

Bam wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 11:11am:

Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 10:16am: Bam wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 10:10am: Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 9:46am: As long as you adopt our policies and implement them.  Even though we didn't win government. :D And why shouldn't they? It's not as if the Liberals have many policies of their own. Are you being deliberately obtuse bam? :D If you disagree, please provide details on the Liberals' industrial relations policies. Policies that they promised to release before the election but somehow never saw the light of day.

Why don't you look for them yourself...?
I hardly think 1 portfolio means no policies... even if you are right.  I hardly think late to release means no policies either. :D

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 1:25pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 12:59pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 9:46am: As long as you adopt our policies and implement them.  Even though we didn't win government. :D what are you crying about now Goose? anything in particular or did your masters simply tell you to start some  anti labor threads? Nope, personally they are so alike it doesn't really matter much who gets in...  I do want that plebiscite though.  I believe in real democracy...  something you and Labor apparently don't. :D :D :D

real democracy? a $150m opinion poll??  ;D ;D ;D ;D

There's no democracy there.

I see Goose still hasn't told us what he's crying about.

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 1:31pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 1:25pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 12:59pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 9:46am: As long as you adopt our policies and implement them.  Even though we didn't win government. :D what are you crying about now Goose? anything in particular or did your masters simply tell you to start some  anti labor threads? Nope, personally they are so alike it doesn't really matter much who gets in...  I do want that plebiscite though.  I believe in real democracy...  something you and Labor apparently don't. :D :D :D real democracy? a $150m opinion poll??  ;D ;D ;D ;D There's no democracy there.

yes REAL Democracy...
Is that fear I smell John....  of course it is. ;D

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 1:32pm:

I see Goose still hasn't told us what he's crying about.

TROLL
not crying....  you must be in pain though you're still carrying on. :D :D :D

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 1:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 1:32pm: I see Goose still hasn't told us what he's crying about. TROLL not crying....  you must be in pain though you're still carrying on. :D :D :D

I just trying to figure out the purpose of this thread ... you seem reluctant to tell us what your gripe is. What's the matter, you still trying to work out what you want to cry about today?

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 1:29pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 11:11am: Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 10:16am: Bam wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 10:10am: Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 9:46am: As long as you adopt our policies and implement them.  Even though we didn't win government. :D And why shouldn't they? It's not as if the Liberals have many policies of their own. Are you being deliberately obtuse bam? :D If you disagree, please provide details on the Liberals' industrial relations policies. Policies that they promised to release before the election but somehow never saw the light of day. Why don't you look for them yourself...?

They released no IR policies before the election.

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 1:36pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 1:34pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 1:32pm: I see Goose still hasn't told us what he's crying about. TROLL not crying....  you must be in pain though you're still carrying on. :D :D :D I just trying to figure out the purpose of this thread ... you seem reluctant to tell us what your gripe is. What's the matter, you still trying to work out what you want to cry about today?

The purpose of this tread is to engender discussion on the topic...  haven't you worked it out yet?

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 1:51pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 1:36pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 1:34pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 1:32pm: I see Goose still hasn't told us what he's crying about. TROLL not crying....  you must be in pain though you're still carrying on. :D :D :D I just trying to figure out the purpose of this thread ... you seem reluctant to tell us what your gripe is. What's the matter, you still trying to work out what you want to cry about today? The purpose of this tread is to engender discussion on the topic...  haven't you worked it out yet?

and what is the topic exactly?

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 1:29pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 11:11am: Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 10:16am: Bam wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 10:10am: Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 9:46am: As long as you adopt our policies and implement them.  Even though we didn't win government. :D And why shouldn't they? It's not as if the Liberals have many policies of their own. Are you being deliberately obtuse bam? :D If you disagree, please provide details on the Liberals' industrial relations policies. Policies that they promised to release before the election but somehow never saw the light of day. Why don't you look for them yourself...?

I looked.

2016 Election Policies

Not there.

Quote:

Don’t you just love it? Opposition Treasury spokesman Chris Bowen now tells us that Labor will help the government repair the budget if the government adopts Labor’s policies. “The government, if they have the spirit of goodwill, will find partners with Labor in budget repair that’s fair, but what we don’t do is sell out our values and principles and things we’ve fought on consistently for three years.”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/judith-sloan/federal-election-2016-labor-scuttles-hopes-of-meaningful-budget-fix/news-story/5113fd8adbbb39cba2ae60153350f699

I think its kind of obvious what this topic us about... ::)

Personally I don't think its necessary for a political party to go to an election with set policies on every portfolio.

But I did find this on the Lib website...
https://www.liberal.org.au/our-plan/cleaning-construction-industry

cods wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 10:26am:

Bam wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 10:10am: Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 9:46am: As long as you adopt our policies and implement them.  Even though we didn't win government. :D And why shouldn't they? It's not as if the Liberals have many policies of their own. hilarious when you join minority groups to block block block..........thats when you reap what you sow... labor got us into this mess.......now they should hang their heads in shame and do their best to help no matter who the govt is... to get us out of it... ;D ;D of course we dont expect any lefty to see that point of view.

Actually you can and I do.  However, I reject the Tories' policies when it means that hard-working, Mums and Dad's from struggle street must pay to allow the Tories and their mates in the Big End of Town to live the high life while they can't pay the rent/can't pay their mortgage and can't afford to send their kids to school/university.

If Australia is to prosper, all Australia must pull together, not just the workers, while the Big End of town prospers and does nothing to earn that prosperity!   ::)

You are such a hypocrite bwian...  you mean we must all pull together except with the people who dissent from your point of view comrade...  Tories...  you do make me laugh.

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 7:09pm:

I think its kind of obvious what this topic us about... ::)

not even close .... have you made up your mind what the topic is about yet or was that pay page supposed to be your answer?
Are you perhaps incapable of articulating exactly what your gripe is?

cods wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 10:26am:

hilarious when you join minority groups to block block block..........thats when you reap what you sow...

so it's only a problem when minority groups do it?  Cause I didn't see you complain when Dr No did it.

"I revel in that title," Mr Abbott said of his "Dr No" label.

Hey... we are Labor and we are here to help...

A statement that the Liberals could never make unless they are talking about their mates.

cods wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 10:26am:

Bam wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 10:10am: Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 9:46am: As long as you adopt our policies and implement them.  Even though we didn't win government. :D And why shouldn't they? It's not as if the Liberals have many policies of their own. hilarious when you join minority groups to block block block..........thats when you reap what you sow... labor got us into this mess.......now they should hang their heads in shame and do their best to help no matter who the govt is... to get us out of it... ;D ;D of course we dont expect any lefty to see that point of view.

Google translate says that it is English, Sounds better in Irish.

hilarious nuair a bheith agat grúpaí mionlaigh chun bealach bloc bloc .......... thats nuair a bhaint as tú cad cránach tú ...

Fuair saothair sinn i praiseach seo ....... anois ba chóir dóibh hang a gceann i náire agus a gcuid is fearr chun cuidiú cuma cé go bhfuil an Govt ... a fháil dúinn amach é ... Grin Grin

ar ndóigh táimid ag i dont ag súil le haon lefty a fheiceáil go pointe féachana.