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Message started by Panther on Jul 5th, 2016 at 11:25am

Title: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Panther on Jul 5th, 2016 at 11:25am
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Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Marla on Jul 5th, 2016 at 12:03pm
For bugger's sake...


The American Revolution was nothing more than a rich man's war over neocolonialism. A "revolution" based upon endless contradictions and bourgeois social relations. "All men to be created equal" is the biggest American myth alive today for America built its economy based upon slavery.



Bullshit bourgeoisie slave-owners and AND capitalists who all knew too god damn well the conflict between the institution of slavery and the principles they professed.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Panther on Jul 5th, 2016 at 12:14pm
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Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Panther on Jul 5th, 2016 at 12:37pm
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Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Marla on Jul 5th, 2016 at 12:38pm
Oh, let it go, Panther.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Panther on Jul 5th, 2016 at 12:51pm

Marla wrote on Jul 5th, 2016 at 12:38pm:
Oh, let it go, Panther.


@Marla          You have the Right to Free Speech, therefore your individual opinion. I respect that Right, not that I agree with anything you say, but your Right to say it, whether I agree or not. ;)

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Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Marla on Jul 5th, 2016 at 12:57pm
Why don't you just move to America Panther since you want to ass kiss the place so much?

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Panther on Jul 5th, 2016 at 1:01pm

Marla wrote on Jul 5th, 2016 at 12:57pm:
Why don't you just move to America Panther since you want to ass kiss the place so much?
You may ass kiss things you like....As for me, I prefer to show respect & admiration.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Marla on Jul 5th, 2016 at 1:02pm
Yeah, that's referred to as ass kissing.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Panther on Jul 5th, 2016 at 1:10pm

Marla wrote on Jul 5th, 2016 at 1:02pm:
Yeah, that's referred to as ass kissing.


Choose any words you wish to describe your own beliefs & customs, that's your absolute right.

I choose to differ, which is my absolute right.   

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Marla on Jul 5th, 2016 at 1:12pm
You're like a right-wing HAL from 2001.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Panther on Jul 5th, 2016 at 1:29pm

Marla wrote on Jul 5th, 2016 at 1:12pm:
You're like a right-wing HAL from 2001.


Awwwww, flattery ......... gotta luv it....

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by mortdooley on Jul 5th, 2016 at 1:32pm
Thanks Panther, you're a gentleman and a scholar!
We did the stereotypical fourth of July , beer, hot dogs, hamburgers, watermelon, potato salad....  The kids swam in the pool and the old folks talked about younger days and their aches and pains. It was a great get together, I wonder how much longer it will represent Independent Day.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Marla on Jul 5th, 2016 at 1:38pm
Yeah morty torty, nothing represents America's original provincial backwater colonies whose Declaration proclaimed all men to be created equal came from states whose economies were based on slavery like burgers, fries, and god damn hot dogs, is there? 

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Panther on Jul 5th, 2016 at 1:40pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 5th, 2016 at 1:32pm:
Thanks Panther, you're a gentleman and a scholar!
We did the stereotypical fourth of July , beer, hot dogs, hamburgers, watermelon, potato salad....  The kids swam in the pool and the old folks talked about younger days and their aches and pains. It was a great get together, I wonder how much longer it will represent Independent Day.


As long as you keep your well regulated firearms near, & your powder dry, God help anyone that tries to take it away!

All the best....to you & yours Mort.
 

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Nicole Page 2016 on Jul 5th, 2016 at 2:56pm
Happy Independence Day Mort.

I for one am proud Australia counts America as a friend.


Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by innocentbystander. on Jul 5th, 2016 at 4:19pm
I dedicate this video to marlene  ;D




https://youtu.be/RX1GhVio4no

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Karnal on Jul 5th, 2016 at 4:59pm
God bless the white race, Panther.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by mortdooley on Jul 5th, 2016 at 9:44pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 5th, 2016 at 4:59pm:
God bless the white race, Panther.



Sour grapes or just being rude?

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by issuevoter on Jul 5th, 2016 at 9:54pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 5th, 2016 at 9:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 5th, 2016 at 4:59pm:
God bless the white race, Panther.



Sour grapes or just being rude?


Mort, that is what passes for a Republican in this country.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by mortdooley on Jul 5th, 2016 at 9:58pm
I would guess Liberal Democrat, here it might be a Race hustler who only wants to agitate.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Marla on Jul 6th, 2016 at 12:52am

innocentbystander. wrote on Jul 5th, 2016 at 4:19pm:
I dedicate this video to marlene  ;D




https://youtu.be/RX1GhVio4no



An Inforwars stamp collecting limey? That's the best you can do rockskull?

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 6th, 2016 at 1:31am

Marla wrote on Jul 5th, 2016 at 1:38pm:
Yeah morty torty, nothing represents America's original provincial backwater colonies whose Declaration proclaimed all men to be created equal came from states whose economies were based on slavery like burgers, fries, and god damn hot dogs, is there? 

"Don't it always seem to go ... that you don't know what you've got till it's gone ..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwUJH70ubM

Thanks for the kind Independence Day wishes, Aussies! Glad to count you as friends, too.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jul 6th, 2016 at 2:09am
I enjoy my visits but Americans on the whole have to be the dumbest people walking this earth.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Marla on Jul 6th, 2016 at 2:19am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 2:09am:
I enjoy my visits but Americans on the whole have to be the dumbest people walking this earth.



Ever been to Texuss? It's gets worse. Much worse.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jul 6th, 2016 at 2:24am

Marla wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 2:19am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 2:09am:
I enjoy my visits but Americans on the whole have to be the dumbest people walking this earth.



Ever been to Texuss? It's gets worse. Much worse.


A long time ago I spent some time in Dallas.

I am in the US 6 times per year - 5 work related in LA and NY and one vacation (Disneyland next month - this will be far the most difficult visit).

I just find Americans to be incredibly nice (even the New Yorkers) but infuriating same time.

At Heathrow their simple inability to understand how to fill out a form, go through the right gate, stare blankly at screens not comprehending that the British Airways plane is actually the American Airlines plane as well under a code share etc

I don't know if its idiocy or ignorance - or both but they kill me.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jul 6th, 2016 at 2:28am
I worked in South Carolina and Mississippi a few years back and the general level of understanding of the world shocked me.

One guy - who wouldn't strike you as a rocket scientist but he was no utter m-ron - he didn't know where Great Britain was.
I mean I get not knowing intricacies of countries etc but how can you actually reach the age of about 25 and not know where the UK is on the map.

My favourite from that time was talking to a girl whose father was in the US army and had been stationed outside the US for a period of time.
She said it was somewhere beginning with S. I must have spent 10 mins at best listing every country I know with S - Surinam, Sweden, Somalia, Switzerland - I even listed Syria....

Later on her sister came through and told me he was stationed in Cyprus...

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by AiA on Jul 6th, 2016 at 3:15am
I have been back living and working in the USA for a few years now, in Atlanta actually. Like you say Andrei, Americans are incredibly nice, sometimes annoyingly so, but their worldview can be infuriating, and their tendency towards polar opposites regarding the simplest matters is puzzling.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 6th, 2016 at 3:58am
Why is Marna so angry. I thought she was a proud American.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Marla on Jul 6th, 2016 at 4:51am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 2:24am:
A long time ago I spent some time in Dallas.

I am in the US 6 times per year - 5 work related in LA and NY and one vacation (Disneyland next month - this will be far the most difficult visit).

I just find Americans to be incredibly nice (even the New Yorkers) but infuriating same time.

At Heathrow their simple inability to understand how to fill out a form, go through the right gate, stare blankly at screens not comprehending that the British Airways plane is actually the American Airlines plane as well under a code share etc

I don't know if its idiocy or ignorance - or both but they kill me.


I'd say for the most part that is true. Ask any American kid where Central America is and they will most likely tell you "Kansas."  I was only in New York (Manhattan proper) for two days so really can't say much about the politeness of the populace there. When I was stationed at Paris Island in South Carolina did I meet some of the nicest, friendliest people but that again, I think that's just the way of the south or that's the way they treat those in the service; the people there have a sense of charm about them.

By far the worst people I've ever met (besides Texuuns and southern Californians) were the British. Didn't care much for London. I found the place to be one of the dirtiest places on earth (once you get passed the tourist traps) and being an American it's just so ingrained to say "Have a nice day" to someone - but not the limeys. "Don't tell me what kind of a smacking day I should have you bloody Yank." was usually the response back.


Have never been to Australia but have found most of the Australians I have run across to be quiet in comparison with others foreigners I've run across. A Briton living here will boast how about friggin' English they are and how much they really don't care for America except for, of course, "Florrrreeeda" or that their really crappy band is living in L.A. flophouse apartment knowing they are "going to make it "big" someday.

Ask any Australian here where they are from and they'll simply say, "Australia, mate." and that's it. They go back to what they were doing. No complaints, no boasting, nothing.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Marla on Jul 6th, 2016 at 4:57am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 3:58am:
Why is Marna so angry. I thought she was a proud American.



A socialist American.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by AiA on Jul 6th, 2016 at 5:29am

Marla wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 4:51am:
By far the worst people I've ever met were the British. 


It's true. To make matters worse Brits living in the States take advantage of the fact that Americans are suckers for an English accent. It makes me sick watching Brits getting away with murder because of their accent.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by mortdooley on Jul 6th, 2016 at 6:40am

Marla wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 4:57am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 3:58am:
Why is Marna so angry. I thought she was a proud American.



A socialist American.



Ok, you have rambled on about your love of Socialism long enough without explaining your utopia. Let's hear your stupid ideas about your longed for perfect world.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by mortdooley on Jul 6th, 2016 at 7:25am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 2:28am:
I worked in South Carolina and Mississippi a few years back and the general level of understanding of the world shocked me.

One guy - who wouldn't strike you as a rocket scientist but he was no utter m-ron - he didn't know where Great Britain was.
I mean I get not knowing intricacies of countries etc but how can you actually reach the age of about 25 and not know where the UK is on the map.

My favourite from that time was talking to a girl whose father was in the US army and had been stationed outside the US for a period of time.
She said it was somewhere beginning with S. I must have spent 10 mins at best listing every country I know with S - Surinam, Sweden, Somalia, Switzerland - I even listed Syria....

Later on her sister came through and told me he was stationed in Cyprus...




That's not a fair representation of Americans, their own peers know they are airheads. We have one group that you can't talk to unless the subjects are music or sports. These groups are not truly stupid, they can bore you to tears talking about their favorite celebrities for hours.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 6th, 2016 at 8:58am

AiA wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 3:15am:
I have been back living and working in the USA for a few years now, in Atlanta actually. Like you say Andrei, Americans are incredibly nice, sometimes annoyingly so, but their worldview can be infuriating, and their tendency towards polar opposites regarding the simplest matters is puzzling.

Depends on where you go in America, whom you meet and what circles you hang out in.

The general education level is lacking because teachers' unions control public education, and that makes it difficult to get rid of inept teachers. In New York they have what are called "rubber rooms" for teachers who have no business being in the classrooms, but remain on the payroll because of the power of the unions.
http://nypost.com/2016/01/17/city-pays-exiled-teachers-to-snooze-as-rubber-rooms-return/

The documentary "Waiting for Superman" covers the problem quite nicely.

It doesn't help that the federal government has its own bloated bureaucracy, the U.S. Department of Education, which is essentially accountable to no one. Thus, it doesn't really matter that test scores haven't improved since it was created in 1979 (by Jimmy Carter, not surprisingly) -- the bottom line is that Congress has no intention of abolishing it.

This is one of those federal agencies that could disappear tomorrow and the vast majority of Americans would never know the difference.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 6th, 2016 at 9:01am

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 6:40am:

Marla wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 4:57am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 3:58am:
Why is Marna so angry. I thought she was a proud American.



A socialist American.



Ok, you have rambled on about your love of Socialism long enough without explaining your utopia. Let's hear your stupid ideas about your longed for perfect world.

Good point, Mort. In the words of the Beatles:

You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan ...

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Marla on Jul 6th, 2016 at 9:52am

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 6:40am:
Ok, you have rambled on about your love of Socialism long enough without explaining your utopia. Let's hear your stupid ideas about your longed for perfect world.



morty torty, where and when did I ever state that socialism was a "utopia?"

I warned you about your incessant Fox News watching.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 6th, 2016 at 9:58am

Marla wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 9:52am:

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 6:40am:
Ok, you have rambled on about your love of Socialism long enough without explaining your utopia. Let's hear your stupid ideas about your longed for perfect world.



morty torty, where and when did I ever state that socialism was a "utopia?"

I warned you about your incessant Fox News watching.

So what about the second part of his challenge: Explain how your version of socialism is going to create a better world.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by mortdooley on Jul 6th, 2016 at 10:04am
Make your case for socialism, I want to read it.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Marla on Jul 6th, 2016 at 10:26am
First make your case how Texuuns can live on so little brain cells.



Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by mortdooley on Jul 6th, 2016 at 10:45am
So you can't, no surprise there!

Just as I said before, good attention, bad attention any attention just so you are not ignored.   You are such an Attention Junkie.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Marla on Jul 6th, 2016 at 10:47am
No, I'm just not your puppet morty torty.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jul 6th, 2016 at 10:59am
Will you do this for Waitangi Day Panther?

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by mortdooley on Jul 6th, 2016 at 11:04am

Marla wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 10:47am:
No, I'm just not your puppet morty torty.


So, you are a phony socialist.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by ian on Jul 6th, 2016 at 11:18am
The land of the free. Free to get shot wile doing your grocery shopping. Free to go home and die of an easily curable medical condiition because you have no health insurance.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by mortdooley on Jul 6th, 2016 at 11:29am

ian wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 11:18am:
The land of the free. Free to get shot wile doing your grocery shopping. Free to go home and die of an easily curable medical condiition because you have no health insurance.


Why would you get shot?

We have charity hospitals, no one dies for lack of medical care! The Illegals use our emergency rooms as clinics because they won't be turned away. They have bankrupted dozens!

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Panther on Jul 6th, 2016 at 12:45pm
All this why?

Because I simply wanted to wish America a Happy Birthday?!

While we're still subjects of the Crown, at least they had the balls to tell the King where he could shove his crown back then!!! 

Will that ever happen here?

Don't hold your breath.........



Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by Marla on Jul 6th, 2016 at 12:50pm
Panther paranoia and blind patriotism. What a combination.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 6th, 2016 at 4:26pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 11:29am:

ian wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 11:18am:
The land of the free. Free to get shot wile doing your grocery shopping. Free to go home and die of an easily curable medical condiition because you have no health insurance.


Why would you get shot?

We have charity hospitals, no one dies for lack of medical care! The Illegals use our emergency rooms as clinics because they won't be turned away. They have bankrupted dozens!

Exactly, Mort. When the left was trying to sell Obamacare, I kept hearing all these horror stories about people dying in the streets for lack of medical insurance.

And I made the same point: How is that possible, when any illegal immigrant can step across the border, stroll into an American E.R. and get medical treatment regardless of his ability to pay? And forget emergencies -- some Mexican women were using American hospitals for prenatal care, for crying out loud.

To anyone who kept arguing in the face of such overwhelming evidence, I simply posed this challenge: Give me the names of these supposed victims who died for lack of medical insurance.

Unsurprisingly, I never even got one.

Title: Re: Happy Independence Day America!!!
Post by The4thEstate on Jul 6th, 2016 at 4:31pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 11:04am:

Marla wrote on Jul 6th, 2016 at 10:47am:
No, I'm just not your puppet morty torty.


So, you are a phony socialist.

Well, I must say I'm disappointed. I mean, I was all ready to go all-in on socialism; I just needed to hear a few details about the plan that was going to work so much better for Americans than capitalism.

And now this. If I didn't know better, I'd say there was no plan. But of course there has to be, or Marla wouldn't embrace it ... ummm, right? 

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