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Message started by bogarde73 on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 4:12pm

Title: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by bogarde73 on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 4:12pm
An  Ipsos Mori poll has rated the major party leadersas follows;
Farage. 38%
Cameron. 35
Corby. 27

Cameron has the highest unfavourable rating.
Not surprising after his campaign of fear on Brexit.

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by capitosinora on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 5:07pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 4:12pm:
An  Ipsos Mori poll has rated the major party leadersas follows;
Farage. 38%
Cameron. 35
Corby. 27

Cameron has the highest unfavourable rating.
Not surprising after his campaign of fear on Brexit.


Farage is a genius.

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by bogarde73 on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:40pm
But he is now out of a job.

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by Lord Herbert on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:42pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:40pm:
But he is now out of a job.


How so?

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by bogarde73 on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:50pm
I mean he's still an MEP I think, but his real job of getting the UK out of the EU is finished now.

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by The4thEstate on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:37pm
But don't you think that immigration issues will keep him relevant?

From where I sit, that appears to be the "bridge too far" that's now exploding in the EU globalists' faces. The average citizen of a European country isn't keen on the notion of encouraging the refugee stampede.

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by GordyL on Jun 24th, 2016 at 8:01pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:37pm:
But don't you think that immigration issues will keep him relevant?

From where I sit, that appears to be the "bridge too far" that's now exploding in the EU globalists' faces. The average citizen of a European country isn't keen on the notion of encouraging the refugee stampede.


They certainly went too far.  The French elections are going to be a huge pendulum over swing which will set up Germany for the same effect.  The lefties just  couldn't keep it in their pants and now we're going to have a lurch to the right

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 27th, 2016 at 11:42am
Also from what I read Farage should be calling for another Brexit vote.

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by bogarde73 on Jun 27th, 2016 at 11:59am
Maybe I was wrong about him still being an MEP.
I heard some Brussels bureaucrat saying today that MEPs from the UK now have no place in the European Parliament.

It will be interesting to see what happens if & when they try to occupy their seats.

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by Honky on Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:08pm
Hes still an mep until britain actually exits.  The process wont even begin until at least october, and theres still a good chance it wont happen at all.

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by Fireball on Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:10pm
Farage should undoubtably be a member of the British government once that weak f'ker Cameron gets out. He's only an MEP as long as this leave negotiation with Brussels goes on, once its finished he'll probably go back to share trading in the City if they don't include him in the government.

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by Lord Herbert on Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:19pm
Theresa May is shaping up to be a possible contender for the top spot in the Conservative (sic) Party.

She's good.

She's made some very bold un-PC statements in the past about immigration and Muslim incompatibility, etc.


Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by Honky on Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:26pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:19pm:
Theresa May is shaping up to be a possible contender for the top spot in the Conservative (sic) Party.

She's good.

She's made some very bold un-PC statements in the past about immigration and Muslim incompatibility, etc.



Yeh, having a chick in charge is the last thing a european/western country needs.   

Did you forget Merkel was supposed to be "conservative"?

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:31pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:19pm:
Theresa May is shaping up to be a possible contender for the top spot in the Conservative (sic) Party.

She's good.

She's made some very bold un-PC statements in the past about immigration and Muslim incompatibility, etc.





Like saying the reason why an immigrant was allowed to stay was because he had a pet cat?

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by Lord Herbert on Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:55pm
And to continue, before I was so rudely interrupted ....


Unforgiven wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 11:23am:
David Cameron is politically emasculated after losing the stay campaign.


Like Malcolm Turnbull, he has always been a sheep in wolf's clothing. Being Leftwing on most social issues has seen him giving away billions in Foreign Aid,  and not calling in the army to stop the illegal invasion of migrants through the Channel tunnel. An arsehole of the first degree, only slightly better than Tony Blair.


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Jeremy Corbyn, the opposition leader is being attacked by labor minnows.


An outright pinko from a bygone era. He's a rat in the National silo.


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Scotland is talking about secession again.


Excellent. English taxpayers are sick of financing their welfare bill to the tune of millions each year.


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Unification of Ireland in the EEC is being mooted.


Should have happened years ago. At the time of The Troubles polls showed that 85% of ordinary Britishers wanted unification in Ireland. 


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Chaos is the new normal in UK.


Chaos arrived some years ago with mass-immigration creating ghettos, Muslim sex gangs, and Muslim jihadist bombers and ISIS recruits. Oh, and London's black riots.

And other black riots in the Midlands.

All of these have a better chance of being sorted out now that the EU Socialist Government will have no say in how the Brits sort out their more troublesome Muslims and other minorities.

O Happy Days are here again!


Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by Lord Herbert on Jun 27th, 2016 at 1:02pm

... wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:26pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:19pm:
Theresa May is shaping up to be a possible contender for the top spot in the Conservative (sic) Party.

She's good.

She's made some very bold un-PC statements in the past about immigration and Muslim incompatibility, etc.



Yeh, having a chick in charge is the last thing a european/western country needs.   

Did you forget Merkel was supposed to be "conservative"?


I hear you, Honky.

I'm not too sure Farage or Boris have the 'gravitas' to take on the leadership role of Britain.

What is needed is an outright bitch of Rightwing persuasions, or a Welshman of Enoch Powell's ilk.             

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by Raven on Jun 27th, 2016 at 2:30pm
Farage and ilk did a good job of whipping up fear to sway the Brexit vote. What with those immigrants either taking British jobs or being a strain on the British economy.

Although... unemployment in Britain remains at a 10 year low of 5.2 and those pesky immigrants have made a net contribution of £20 billion to the British economy over the same 10 year period.

In fact a University College London report estimates that migrants coming to the UK since 2000 have been 43 per cent less likely to claim benefits or tax credits compared to the British born workforce.

During the 2015 election,a briefingwritten by the London School of Economics' Centre for Economic Performance showed


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There is still no evidence of an overall negative impact of immigration on jobs, wages, housing or the crowding out of public services ... One of the largest impacts of immigration seems to be on public perceptions


Additionally the Chancellor's department has warned a Brexit Would Cost UK Families £4,300 A Year.

And of course there is now talk of another Scottish Referendum on Independence within the next two years.

Scots voted against independence by 55 to 45 per cent in the 2014 referendum, after a campaign during which remaining in the EU was presented as one of the main attractions of sticking with the UK.

Two new polls taken after Thursday's vote showed a majority of Scots would now support independence.

Scotland voted to stay in the EU by 62 to 38 per cent.

The UK has done what is the right of every democracy on the planet. It is hoped that those who voted did what they thought was right and not guided by fear.


Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by Honky on Jun 27th, 2016 at 2:36pm

Raven wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 2:30pm:
It is hoped that those who voted did what they thought was right and not guided by fear.


Why would it matter if it was guided by fear? 

If one made a decision not to jump off a bridge "guided by fear" it's still the right decision.

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by bogarde73 on Jun 27th, 2016 at 2:45pm
I would suggest all the fear-mongering came from the other side - from within the UK, from EU bureaucrats and leaders, from the heads of globalist-led organisations like the IMF and from globalist politicians elsewhere like Obama.

PS  Let's hear it for Boris!

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 27th, 2016 at 2:49pm
THere was enough fear mongering on both sides to go round.

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by bogarde73 on Jun 27th, 2016 at 2:53pm
Be honest, the Remain camp delivered a total fear war.

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 27th, 2016 at 3:03pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 2:53pm:
Be honest, the Remain camp delivered a total fear war.




It was a a political campaign, it was all fear.

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by Frank on Jun 27th, 2016 at 6:21pm
All the undemocratic trots are out in force dismissing the electorate as a bunch of cowered ignorants.

My family members voted for Remain but they are grown-up enough to respect the result.  None of this stupid, rabid 'have another vote until it goes our way' nonsense.

The UK will be fine. Europe will be fine - it needed a wake-up call and if it heads it now it will be the better for it.


Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by The4thEstate on Jun 28th, 2016 at 11:50pm

Raven wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 2:30pm:
Farage and ilk did a good job of whipping up fear to sway the Brexit vote. What with those immigrants either taking British jobs or being a strain on the British economy.

Maybe the Brits decided that any religion known for Sharia courts, rape gangs, terrorism, female genital mutilation and the execution of gays shouldn't be welcomed like a Trojan horse into a nation that long ago evolved beyond such things.

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by Super Nova on Jun 29th, 2016 at 12:08am
Having lived in London for me the fundamental issue was the loss of sovereignty. a bunch of unelected bureaucrats setting the rules no mater what anyone thought. 5 Presidents, all unelected.

The EUs mistake was not to give more to Cameron when he come to do a deal. If they had, things may have been different. I bet they thought the UK would not vote to leave. I bet they would have given more ground if they knew the consequence of giving nothing. Today they would be prepared to give to other EU nations to stop them exiting I bet. Their arrogance knows no bounds.

Immigration, health ... fear....etc are all issues but the loss of control over their own country is the factor that moved the leave over the line.


Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by AiA on Jun 29th, 2016 at 12:35am
Never heard of Farage before this week. Then today I see him speaking in Brussels in front of the EU Parliament getting "jeered and booed" and suddenly had the thought, "I like this man."

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by AiA on Jun 29th, 2016 at 12:36am

Super Nova wrote on Jun 29th, 2016 at 12:08am:
Having lived in London for me the fundamental issue was the loss of sovereignty. a bunch of unelected bureaucrats setting the rules no mater what anyone thought. 5 Presidents, all unelected.


The EU is run by bureaucrats who have no skin in the game.

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by AiA on Jun 29th, 2016 at 12:36am
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Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by innocentbystander. on Jun 29th, 2016 at 4:26am
If you have seen Final Destination then you will realise that Farage is living on borrowed time  ;D












http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/may/06/ukip-nigel-farage-plane-crash

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by bogarde73 on Jun 29th, 2016 at 7:08am

AiA wrote on Jun 29th, 2016 at 12:35am:
Never heard of Farage before this week. Then today I see him speaking in Brussels in front of the EU Parliament getting "jeered and booed" and suddenly had the thought, "I like this man."


What! Are you one of the people who asked Google "what is the EU"?

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by cods on Jun 29th, 2016 at 7:29am
MY MUM ALWAYS USED TO SAY.. DONT WORRY ABOUT WHOS DOING WHAT IN THE GOVT..

THERE IS ALWAYS A LINE UP OF [oops] wannabees queuing up for the job... ::) ::) we will never be short of take over men

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by AiA on Jun 29th, 2016 at 7:30am

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 29th, 2016 at 7:08am:

AiA wrote on Jun 29th, 2016 at 12:35am:
Never heard of Farage before this week. Then today I see him speaking in Brussels in front of the EU Parliament getting "jeered and booed" and suddenly had the thought, "I like this man."


What! Are you one of the people who asked Google "what is the EU"?


No, but I think those are my balls on your face.

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by Lord Herbert on Jun 29th, 2016 at 10:48am

innocentbystander. wrote on Jun 29th, 2016 at 4:26am:
If you have seen Final Destination then you will realise that Farage is living on borrowed time  ;D







He'll need a drink after that.

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by Nicole Page 2016 on Jun 29th, 2016 at 11:17am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 1:02pm:

... wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:26pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:19pm:
Theresa May is shaping up to be a possible contender for the top spot in the Conservative (sic) Party.

She's good.

She's made some very bold un-PC statements in the past about immigration and Muslim incompatibility, etc.



Yeh, having a chick in charge is the last thing a european/western country needs.   

Did you forget Merkel was supposed to be "conservative"?


I hear you, Honky.

I'm not too sure Farage or Boris have the 'gravitas' to take on the leadership role of Britain.

What is needed is an outright bitch of Rightwing persuasions, or a Welshman of Enoch Powell's ilk.             


I'm a bitch of right wing persuasions.  Ok, ok don't mob me, I'll do it.

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 29th, 2016 at 11:23am

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 29th, 2016 at 11:17am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 1:02pm:

... wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:26pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:19pm:
Theresa May is shaping up to be a possible contender for the top spot in the Conservative (sic) Party.

She's good.

She's made some very bold un-PC statements in the past about immigration and Muslim incompatibility, etc.



Yeh, having a chick in charge is the last thing a european/western country needs.   

Did you forget Merkel was supposed to be "conservative"?


I hear you, Honky.

I'm not too sure Farage or Boris have the 'gravitas' to take on the leadership role of Britain.

What is needed is an outright bitch of Rightwing persuasions, or a Welshman of Enoch Powell's ilk.             


I'm a bitch of right wing persuasions.  Ok, ok don't mob me, I'll do it.



But are you hot and do you swallow

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by Nicole Page 2016 on Jun 29th, 2016 at 11:37am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 29th, 2016 at 11:23am:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 29th, 2016 at 11:17am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 1:02pm:

... wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:26pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:19pm:
Theresa May is shaping up to be a possible contender for the top spot in the Conservative (sic) Party.

She's good.

She's made some very bold un-PC statements in the past about immigration and Muslim incompatibility, etc.



Yeh, having a chick in charge is the last thing a european/western country needs.   

Did you forget Merkel was supposed to be "conservative"?


I hear you, Honky.

I'm not too sure Farage or Boris have the 'gravitas' to take on the leadership role of Britain.

What is needed is an outright bitch of Rightwing persuasions, or a Welshman of Enoch Powell's ilk.             


I'm a bitch of right wing persuasions.  Ok, ok don't mob me, I'll do it.



But are you hot and do you swallow


I'll bite off your entire 3 inches if you don't watch your mouth.

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 29th, 2016 at 11:45am

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 29th, 2016 at 11:37am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 29th, 2016 at 11:23am:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 29th, 2016 at 11:17am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 1:02pm:

... wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:26pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:19pm:
Theresa May is shaping up to be a possible contender for the top spot in the Conservative (sic) Party.

She's good.

She's made some very bold un-PC statements in the past about immigration and Muslim incompatibility, etc.



Yeh, having a chick in charge is the last thing a european/western country needs.   

Did you forget Merkel was supposed to be "conservative"?


I hear you, Honky.

I'm not too sure Farage or Boris have the 'gravitas' to take on the leadership role of Britain.

What is needed is an outright bitch of Rightwing persuasions, or a Welshman of Enoch Powell's ilk.             


I'm a bitch of right wing persuasions.  Ok, ok don't mob me, I'll do it.



But are you hot and do you swallow


I'll bite off your entire 3 inches if you don't watch your mouth.


I didnt put my finger in your mouth.

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by bogarde73 on Jun 29th, 2016 at 12:10pm
Just wondering how they would run that poll again now (as in OP).
The Tories don't have a leader.
Labour doesn't have a leader that his parliamentary party support.
Farage will now be getting the blame for Brexit even by the people who voted for it.

Jamie Oliver maybe.

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by Lord Herbert on Jun 29th, 2016 at 1:07pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 29th, 2016 at 11:17am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 1:02pm:

... wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:26pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:19pm:
Theresa May is shaping up to be a possible contender for the top spot in the Conservative (sic) Party.

She's good.

She's made some very bold un-PC statements in the past about immigration and Muslim incompatibility, etc.



Yeh, having a chick in charge is the last thing a european/western country needs.   

Did you forget Merkel was supposed to be "conservative"?


I hear you, Honky.

I'm not too sure Farage or Boris have the 'gravitas' to take on the leadership role of Britain.

What is needed is an outright bitch of Rightwing persuasions, or a Welshman of Enoch Powell's ilk.             


I'm a bitch of right wing persuasions.  Ok, ok don't mob me, I'll do it.


;D ;D ;D ;D

You promise you won't revert to being a dupe to Leftwing Causes half way through your term in office?!

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by Lord Herbert on Jun 29th, 2016 at 1:12pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 29th, 2016 at 12:10pm:
Just wondering how they would run that poll again now (as in OP).
The Tories don't have a leader.
Labour doesn't have a leader that his parliamentary party support.
Farage will now be getting the blame for Brexit even by the people who voted for it.

Jamie Oliver maybe.


There are a massive 53 countries in the British Commonwealth, and it's beyond me how it was that any one visitting the UK from these countries was allowed to enter a vote.


Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by innocentbystander. on Jun 29th, 2016 at 2:17pm
Onya Nige  :)


https://youtu.be/9C5Q0Cw-69I

Title: Re: Farage most popular leader in UK
Post by The4thEstate on Jun 29th, 2016 at 7:05pm

Super Nova wrote on Jun 29th, 2016 at 12:08am:
Having lived in London for me the fundamental issue was the loss of sovereignty. a bunch of unelected bureaucrats setting the rules no mater what anyone thought. 5 Presidents, all unelected.

The EUs mistake was not to give more to Cameron when he come to do a deal. If they had, things may have been different. I bet they thought the UK would not vote to leave. I bet they would have given more ground if they knew the consequence of giving nothing. Today they would be prepared to give to other EU nations to stop them exiting I bet. Their arrogance knows no bounds.

Immigration, health ... fear....etc are all issues but the loss of control over their own country is the factor that moved the leave over the line.

Yeah, that's what happens to bureaucrats when they spend too much time telling other people what to do -- from how many thousand Syrians they have to accept into their country to whether or not they have a right to use tea kettles.

After a while, the people start asking themselves who gave these elitists the right to dictate how to live their lives.

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