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Us 'Righties' must reclaim the world from these insane Greenies.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 18^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

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Absolutely! We must burn all cruise ships with passengers on board! Did you not read the reason for the rule? Yes, from a personal perspective it is a minor misdemeanor but there are many people whose lives at risk if the ship were to catch fire through the butt being brought onboard by the winds.

And I'm a smoker.

I would like to hear the other side of the story before making a call on this. This is an extreme action for the ship to take, therefore I would suspect that the passengers attitude when picked up for throwing the cigarette over the side may have had a large part to play in this.   

But its in the Daily Mail it must be true.

Setanta wrote on Jun 18^th, 2016 at 9:47pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 18th, 2016 at 9:31pm: link Us 'Righties' must reclaim the world from these insane Greenies. Absolutely! We must burn all cruise ships with passengers on board! Did you not read the reason for the rule? Yes, from a personal perspective it is a minor misdemeanor but there are many people whose lives at risk if the ship were to catch fire through the butt being brought onboard by the winds. And I'm a smoker.

I'm not too proud to say you are correct in this with regard to the pyramid-shaped decks of modern cruise liners, but utterly wrong with regard to the old-style design.

I was on five global trips on ocean liners before the age of 19, and thousands smoked on each of these trips in all sorts of weather. WWII troop ships carried thousands of puffing soldiers from 'A' to 'B' without the slightest problem with fires.

Millions of ocean voyages were made by passenger ships ove a period of decades in which smoking was indulged in by a large percentage of the passengers ... with no incidents of fire caused by cigarette butts.

But them came the newly designed ocean cruise liners with their many residential decks stacked upon one another at an angle.

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Belgarion wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 9:44am:

I would like to hear the other side of the story before making a call on this. This is an extreme action for the ship to take, therefore I would suspect that the passengers attitude when picked up for throwing the cigarette over the side may have had a large part to play in this.

I have conceded the point to Seta, Belgarion, and perhaps the action taken was to impress upon all and sundry that this fire hazard is not to be taken lightly

That's not to say there aren't Smoking Rooms on these cruise liners.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 3:42pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 9:44am: I would like to hear the other side of the story before making a call on this. This is an extreme action for the ship to take, therefore I would suspect that the passengers attitude when picked up for throwing the cigarette over the side may have had a large part to play in this.    I have conceded the point to Seta, Belgarion, and perhaps the action taken was to impress upon all and sundry that this fire hazard is not to be taken lightly That's not to say there aren't Smoking Rooms on these cruise liners.

So go to those and smoke there.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 3:42pm:

That's not to say there aren't Smoking Rooms on these cruise liners.

There shouldn't be.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 4:29pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 3:42pm: That's not to say there aren't Smoking Rooms on these cruise liners. There shouldn't be.

Why?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 4:29pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 3:42pm: That's not to say there aren't Smoking Rooms on these cruise liners. There shouldn't be.

Wherever you find people in this world, there you will find people smoking.

Tribes in the middle of the Amazon jungle, or in the New Guinea highlands, or in the mountains, or down by the sea - tribes had taken up smoking quite independently of one another hundreds of years ago.

Some Westerners still like to relax with a cigarette over a drink, or whenever.

Disclaimer: I haven't touched a cigarette for about 20 years now.

Alcohol consumption is infinitely more hazardous to society, the family, the workplace, and to the individual.



 

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 6:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 4:29pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 3:42pm: That's not to say there aren't Smoking Rooms on these cruise liners. There shouldn't be. Wherever you find people in this world, there you will find people smoking. Tribes in the middle of the Amazon jungle, or in the New Guinea highlands, or in the mountains, or down by the sea - tribes had taken up smoking quite independently of one another hundreds of years ago. Some Westerners still like to relax with a cigarette over a drink, or whenever. Disclaimer: I haven't touched a cigarette for about 20 years now. Alcohol consumption is infinitely more hazardous to society, the family, the workplace, and to the individual.

I'll drink to that!!

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 10:56pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 6:23pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 4:29pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 3:42pm: That's not to say there aren't Smoking Rooms on these cruise liners. There shouldn't be. Wherever you find people in this world, there you will find people smoking. Tribes in the middle of the Amazon jungle, or in the New Guinea highlands, or in the mountains, or down by the sea - tribes had taken up smoking quite independently of one another hundreds of years ago. Some Westerners still like to relax with a cigarette over a drink, or whenever. Disclaimer: I haven't touched a cigarette for about 20 years now. Alcohol consumption is infinitely more hazardous to society, the family, the workplace, and to the individual.   I'll drink to that!!

I haven't touched alcohol for 27 years, and so you'll have to drink alone.  :)

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 4:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 4:29pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 3:42pm: That's not to say there aren't Smoking Rooms on these cruise liners. There shouldn't be. Why?

It should be smoke free, like all other public transport.

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"But kicking the habit may also be behind a rise in the number of people diagnosed with Parkinson's disease, a new study suggests.

Previous research has linked smokers to a reduced risk of Parkinson's disease, thought to be as a result of the nicotine in cigarettes protecting the brain in some way.

A new study by researchers in Minnesota has suggested anti-smoking campaigns from the late 40s and 50s could be behind increased prevalence of Parkinson's disease decades later".

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 3:29pm:

link "But kicking the habit may also be behind a rise in the number of people diagnosed with Parkinson's disease, a new study suggests. Previous research has linked smokers to a reduced risk of Parkinson's disease, thought to be as a result of the nicotine in cigarettes protecting the brain in some way. A new study by researchers in Minnesota has suggested anti-smoking campaigns from the late 40s and 50s could be behind increased prevalence of Parkinson's disease decades later".

I think they're on shaky ground with that one.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 3:44pm:

I think they're on shaky ground with that one.

I've known for about 30 years that smoking has two proven benefits.

It reduces the incidence of Alzheimer's, and it prevents tooth decay.

I'm very surprised this latest finding has been allowed to be published, as the campaign to stop people smoking has long since become a matter of Socialist control of the public's behaviour rather than just simply a matter of health.

Socialists LOVE to tell people how to live their lives.

The day will arrive when cafes and restaurants will no longer be allowed to have sugar and salt available for the customers.

Smoking carriages were banned in the railways system - a clear indication that the Socialists don't care that people who use those carriages are quite happy to do so.

No dogs on the beaches is another one. Again, the Socialist Nanny State wanting to increase its control over people's lives.

There's no smoking at all in Sydney's Martin Place now, and the plan is to slowly expand this ban to the neighbouring streets - just for starters.

Pub gardens - no more smoking there despite everyone being happy to smoke there.

I smoked two-packs a day and was also a 'passive smoker' to all those who smoked around me. Where's my cancer?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 4:29pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 3:42pm: That's not to say there aren't Smoking Rooms on these cruise liners. There shouldn't be.

Why? Are you one of those horrible ex-smokers?  Afraid to see people smoke or smell it because YOU might get the urge, again?

I am an ex-smoker and I have no problem with people who still smoke.  It definitely does NOT bother me. I do NOT wag my finger at smokers who seem to congregate in bunches.  It is THEIR lives, not mine. 

Neferti wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 6:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 4:29pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 3:42pm: That's not to say there aren't Smoking Rooms on these cruise liners. There shouldn't be. Why? Are you one of those horrible ex-smokers?  Afraid to see people smoke or smell it because YOU might get the urge, again? I am an ex-smoker and I have no problem with people who still smoke.  It definitely does NOT bother me. I do NOT wag my finger at smokers who seem to congregate in bunches.  It is THEIR lives, not mine.

Exactly.

Ask anyone who fought in WWII what their greatest 'comfort' and pleasure was ... smoking.

The idiots who run our jails have now banned smoking in them. Consequence? Violence has gone through the roof.

I remember when councils banned smoking on the beaches because the stubs were environmentally polluting. Glass and plastic bottles on the beach? No problem.

Socialism gone mad for power over people's lives.

If you've got the gene for cancer - then you'll die of cancer regardless of whether you smoke or not. The carcinogens being pumped out into the air we breathe by car exhausts, factory chimneys, and natural Radon in the soil is quite sufficient without smoking cigarettes to get your cells dividing and multiplying with no stop to it.