We have people like Liberal Senator Bernardi saying


Cory Bernardi links same-sex marriage to polygamy and bestiality again

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/18/cory-bernardi-same-sex-bestiality


Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend.

Hey Greens- do you believe this terrorist act will turn the gays against Islam??

____ wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 11:46am:

Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend.

Yes, absolutely.

Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer.

The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 11:56am:

____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am: Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend. Yes, absolutely. Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer. The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Now we are to blame!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 11:58am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:56am: ____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am: Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend. Yes, absolutely. Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer. The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community. Now we are to blame!!!!

You should try English sometime.

You might like it.

"The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him) ... "

Did you pull the trigger, Mr Hammer?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:58am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:56am: ____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am: Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend. Yes, absolutely. Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer. The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community. Now we are to blame!!!!  You should try English sometime. You might like it. "The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him) ... " Did you pull the trigger, Mr Hammer?

So why should I take responsibility then Pecca?

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 11:52am:

Hey Greens- do you believe this terrorist act will turn the gays against Islam??

Far right christians have attacked and killed gays. That didn't turn the gays against the majority of christians ...  peaceful leftwing Christians.

I suspect the same will occur towards the majority of muslims. The peaceful leftwing muslims will not be scapegoated on. Well not by the gay community.


Now back to my question. Should homophobic Australian politicians take a portion of the blame for inciting terror against gay people and so all moderate people everywhere?

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 12:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:00pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:58am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:56am: ____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am: Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend. Yes, absolutely. Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer. The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community. Now we are to blame!!!!  You should try English sometime. You might like it. "The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him) ... " Did you pull the trigger, Mr Hammer? So why should I take responsibility then Pecca?

For sowing the seeds of hate.

Has all the stress caused by seeing her heroes demonized as pariahs and lepers pushed the very deep in denial totally brainwashed by lying Greenie propaganda Greenie wacko over the edge ?

Won't the eventual disillusionment with Greenie fraud be a massive shock to her already damaged system ?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 12:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:03pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:00pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:58am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:56am: ____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am: Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend. Yes, absolutely. Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer. The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community. Now we are to blame!!!!  You should try English sometime. You might like it. "The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him) ... " Did you pull the trigger, Mr Hammer? So why should I take responsibility then Pecca? For sowing the seeds of hate.

How? Are my comments from an anonymous forum somehow polluting the world??? ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

Are my comments from an anonymous forum somehow polluting the world???

Yes.

I'll tell you who is responsible in western countries for Islamic terrorism- idiot lefties who brought Muslims to our countries.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 12:12pm:

I'll tell you who is responsible in western countries for Islamic terrorism- idiot lefties who brought Muslims to our countries.

The homophobic murderer in Orlando was born in New York.

He was a home-grown US killer.

Stop making excuses for him.

juliar wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 12:09pm:

Has all the stress caused by seeing her heroes demonized as pariahs and lepers pushed the very deep in denial totally brainwashed by lying Greenie propaganda Greenie wacko over the edge ? Won't the eventual disillusionment with Greenie fraud be a massive shock to her already damaged system ?

Continually calling me a her is not an insult to me.
Women are my equal.

Your continual misogyny may be doing your trolling more harm, than good.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 12:16pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:12pm: I'll tell you who is responsible in western countries for Islamic terrorism- idiot lefties who brought Muslims to our countries. The homophobic murderer in Orlando was born in New York. He was a home-grown US killer. Stop making excuses for him.

So do you take into account where right wing terrorists are born??

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 12:12pm:

I'll tell you who is responsible in western countries for Islamic terrorism- idiot lefties who brought Muslims to our countries.

Orlando's homophobic terror attack this weekend, why are you making excuses for the homophobia behind this attack?


Q&A recap: Tom Ballard asks Fred Nile if he thinks 'homosexuality is morally wrong'

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/qa-recap-tom-ballard-asks-fred-nile-if-he-thinks-homosexuality-is-morally-wrong-20150619-ghrtev.html

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 12:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:16pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:12pm: I'll tell you who is responsible in western countries for Islamic terrorism- idiot lefties who brought Muslims to our countries. The homophobic murderer in Orlando was born in New York. He was a home-grown US killer. Stop making excuses for him. So do you take into account where right wing terrorists are born??

Nope.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 12:22pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:16pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:12pm: I'll tell you who is responsible in western countries for Islamic terrorism- idiot lefties who brought Muslims to our countries. The homophobic murderer in Orlando was born in New York. He was a home-grown US killer. Stop making excuses for him. So do you take into account where right wing terrorists are born?? Nope.

why now?

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 12:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:22pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:16pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:12pm: I'll tell you who is responsible in western countries for Islamic terrorism- idiot lefties who brought Muslims to our countries. The homophobic murderer in Orlando was born in New York. He was a home-grown US killer. Stop making excuses for him. So do you take into account where right wing terrorists are born?? Nope. why now?

I'm merely correcting someone who said that this murdering homophobe was "imported".

I couldn't care less where he was born - I'm just getting the facts straight for those who post nonsense.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 12:25pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:23pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:22pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:16pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:12pm: I'll tell you who is responsible in western countries for Islamic terrorism- idiot lefties who brought Muslims to our countries. The homophobic murderer in Orlando was born in New York. He was a home-grown US killer. Stop making excuses for him. So do you take into account where right wing terrorists are born?? Nope. why now? I'm merely correcting someone who said that this murdering homophobe was "imported". I couldn't care less where he was born - I'm just getting the facts straight for those who post nonsense.

Facts straight? ;D ;D Why the need to bang on about where he was born in multiple posts then? 1 post is enough.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 12:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:25pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:23pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:22pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:16pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:12pm: I'll tell you who is responsible in western countries for Islamic terrorism- idiot lefties who brought Muslims to our countries. The homophobic murderer in Orlando was born in New York. He was a home-grown US killer. Stop making excuses for him. So do you take into account where right wing terrorists are born?? Nope. why now? I'm merely correcting someone who said that this murdering homophobe was "imported". I couldn't care less where he was born - I'm just getting the facts straight for those who post nonsense. Facts straight?  Why the need to bang on about where he was born in multiple posts then? 1 post is enough.

You brought it up again (see the highlighted text above).

Not me.

"who brought Muslims to our countries"

This murdering homophobe wasn't "brought into our countries".

He was born in the US.

Are we clear now?

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How the Grimy Greenie Fungal Freaks want to turn our kiddies into raving QUEERS!!!!




Greens Toying Around With Gender Bending
Stefan Di Marco Thursday 26 November 2015

AUSTRALIAN Greenies Senators are calling for an inquiry into whether children’s toys have any effect on why 90% of voters do not vote for the Greenies.

Greenies spokes-non-gender-person Larissa Bonkers said she was concerned that boys who played with toy cars and trucks grew up generally balanced and normally adjusted so therefore would be unlikely to vote Greenies.

“I’m outraged, I’m alarmed, I’m shocked, I’m saddened, I’m disheartened and angry when I think - and that’s not something I do very often - that boys will be boys.” Ms Bonkers wept.

“Why can’t boys be girls, too? This is disgraceful discrimination. Somebody should make a law about it. Oh wait!”

Ms Bonkers said she had taken the issue to her Greenie colleagues who agreed there was no greater issue facing the nation. Senator Sookey Hysteria-Youngster broke out in tears when she thought of how preschool boys were being victimised by not having the opportunity to play with Barbie dolls.

“Tragedy happens!” she sobbed while displaying photos of boys with their Tonka trucks laughing and playing in sandpits.

“And in the interest of equality, little girls should be made to play with slingshots, bows and arrows and toy machine guns whether they want to or not,” whined Ms Hysteria-Youngster.

“Who knows? Some day these little girls may just have the chance to work internationally with organisations like Hamas or Hezbollah. Or even Al-Qaeda or ISIS. These organisations have enormous growth potential and are looking for new recruits as we speak.”

The Greenies said they would be looking at a tri-partisan agreement to establish career opportunities for young girls and boys to work together to qualify them for such international opportunities.

Labor has agreed to the Greenies request.

Prime Minister Turnbull has said he finds the proposal interesting and worth considering.

“Let me just say this. While we have a situation where there is a disparity of sexual or gender specific identity there will always be some confusion about the roles that some men and some women play in our community….now when I say “confusion”, I don’t mean, you know, uncertainty in the mind of the individual himself, or herself, as the case may be, but in the wider and more general context of predetermined conceptions of what that may mean.

So when I say confusion it has to be weighed up with the general Latin origin ‘confusionem’ or ‘nominative confusio’ meaning a disorder or mingling, and balanced with a more modern interpretation,” Mr Turnbull said.

Reporters were handed an edited translation of the Prime Minster’s answer, while eight swooning female reporters from the ABC and The Guardian were treated by ambulance after suffering delusional fits and fainting spells.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 12:30pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:27pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:25pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:23pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:22pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:16pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:12pm: I'll tell you who is responsible in western countries for Islamic terrorism- idiot lefties who brought Muslims to our countries. The homophobic murderer in Orlando was born in New York. He was a home-grown US killer. Stop making excuses for him. So do you take into account where right wing terrorists are born?? Nope. why now? I'm merely correcting someone who said that this murdering homophobe was "imported". I couldn't care less where he was born - I'm just getting the facts straight for those who post nonsense. Facts straight?  Why the need to bang on about where he was born in multiple posts then? 1 post is enough. You brought it up again (see the highlighted text above). Not me. "who brought Muslims to our countries" This murdering homophobe wasn't "brought into our countries". He was born in the US. Are we clear now?

His Muslim parents were. That's how he got there.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 1:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:30pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:27pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:25pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:23pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:22pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:16pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:12pm: I'll tell you who is responsible in western countries for Islamic terrorism- idiot lefties who brought Muslims to our countries. The homophobic murderer in Orlando was born in New York. He was a home-grown US killer. Stop making excuses for him. So do you take into account where right wing terrorists are born?? Nope. why now? I'm merely correcting someone who said that this murdering homophobe was "imported". I couldn't care less where he was born - I'm just getting the facts straight for those who post nonsense. Facts straight?  Why the need to bang on about where he was born in multiple posts then? 1 post is enough. You brought it up again (see the highlighted text above). Not me. "who brought Muslims to our countries" This murdering homophobe wasn't "brought into our countries". He was born in the US. Are we clear now? His Muslim parents were. That's how he got there.

He got there through his mother's vagina.

He wasn't imported.

Anyway, why are you so obsessed with where criminals are born, and what religion they are, and what colour skin they have?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 1:11pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 1:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:30pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:27pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:25pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:23pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:22pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:16pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:12pm: I'll tell you who is responsible in western countries for Islamic terrorism- idiot lefties who brought Muslims to our countries. The homophobic murderer in Orlando was born in New York. He was a home-grown US killer. Stop making excuses for him. So do you take into account where right wing terrorists are born?? Nope. why now? I'm merely correcting someone who said that this murdering homophobe was "imported". I couldn't care less where he was born - I'm just getting the facts straight for those who post nonsense. Facts straight?  Why the need to bang on about where he was born in multiple posts then? 1 post is enough. You brought it up again (see the highlighted text above). Not me. "who brought Muslims to our countries" This murdering homophobe wasn't "brought into our countries". He was born in the US. Are we clear now? His Muslim parents were. That's how he got there. He got there through his mother's vagina. He wasn't imported. Anyway, why are you so obsessed with where criminals are born, and what religion they are, and what colour skin they have?

His parents were imported. Because most Muslim terrorists are usually certain ethnicities from certain places. It's just a fact. It's just like how Right Wing Terrorists are white. It's part of the examination of Islamic terrorism.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 1:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 1:11pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 1:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:30pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:27pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:25pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:23pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:22pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:16pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:12pm: I'll tell you who is responsible in western countries for Islamic terrorism- idiot lefties who brought Muslims to our countries. The homophobic murderer in Orlando was born in New York. He was a home-grown US killer. Stop making excuses for him. So do you take into account where right wing terrorists are born?? Nope. why now? I'm merely correcting someone who said that this murdering homophobe was "imported". I couldn't care less where he was born - I'm just getting the facts straight for those who post nonsense. Facts straight?  Why the need to bang on about where he was born in multiple posts then? 1 post is enough. You brought it up again (see the highlighted text above). Not me. "who brought Muslims to our countries" This murdering homophobe wasn't "brought into our countries". He was born in the US. Are we clear now? His Muslim parents were. That's how he got there. He got there through his mother's vagina. He wasn't imported. Anyway, why are you so obsessed with where criminals are born, and what religion they are, and what colour skin they have? His parents were imported.

Correct.

And nobody has said anything to the contrary.

The murdering homophobe, however, was not imported: he was born in the United States.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 1:30pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 1:17pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 1:11pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 1:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:30pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:27pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:25pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:23pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:22pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:16pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:12pm: I'll tell you who is responsible in western countries for Islamic terrorism- idiot lefties who brought Muslims to our countries. The homophobic murderer in Orlando was born in New York. He was a home-grown US killer. Stop making excuses for him. So do you take into account where right wing terrorists are born?? Nope. why now? I'm merely correcting someone who said that this murdering homophobe was "imported". I couldn't care less where he was born - I'm just getting the facts straight for those who post nonsense. Facts straight?  Why the need to bang on about where he was born in multiple posts then? 1 post is enough. You brought it up again (see the highlighted text above). Not me. "who brought Muslims to our countries" This murdering homophobe wasn't "brought into our countries". He was born in the US. Are we clear now? His Muslim parents were. That's how he got there. He got there through his mother's vagina. He wasn't imported. Anyway, why are you so obsessed with where criminals are born, and what religion they are, and what colour skin they have? His parents were imported. Correct. And nobody has said anything to the contrary. The murdering homophobe, however, was not imported: he was born in the United States.

Like I said- so what.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 1:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 1:30pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 1:17pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 1:11pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 1:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:30pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:27pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:25pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:23pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:22pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:16pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 12:12pm: I'll tell you who is responsible in western countries for Islamic terrorism- idiot lefties who brought Muslims to our countries. The homophobic murderer in Orlando was born in New York. He was a home-grown US killer. Stop making excuses for him. So do you take into account where right wing terrorists are born?? Nope. why now? I'm merely correcting someone who said that this murdering homophobe was "imported". I couldn't care less where he was born - I'm just getting the facts straight for those who post nonsense. Facts straight?  Why the need to bang on about where he was born in multiple posts then? 1 post is enough. You brought it up again (see the highlighted text above). Not me. "who brought Muslims to our countries" This murdering homophobe wasn't "brought into our countries". He was born in the US. Are we clear now? His Muslim parents were. That's how he got there. He got there through his mother's vagina. He wasn't imported. Anyway, why are you so obsessed with where criminals are born, and what religion they are, and what colour skin they have? His parents were imported. Correct. And nobody has said anything to the contrary. The murdering homophobe, however, was not imported: he was born in the United States. Like I said- so what.

Like I said - I was merely correcting another forum member who got it wrong.

Shall we start the cycle again, Homo?

____ wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 11:46am:

We have people like Liberal Senator Bernardi saying Cory Bernardi links same-sex marriage to polygamy and bestiality again https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/18/cory-bernardi-same-sex-bestiality Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend.

What about islam?

So did Swinny just blame Cory Bernadi for the US massacre?

Did Gregg just support him?

:D :D :D

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 4:01pm:

____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am: We have people like Liberal Senator Bernardi saying Cory Bernardi links same-sex marriage to polygamy and bestiality again https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/18/cory-bernardi-same-sex-bestiality Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend. What about islam?

This thread is concerning politicians inciting homophobia. If you are not interested in discussing, feel free to start another thread.

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 4:02pm:

So did Swinny just blame Cory Bernadi for the US massacre? Did Gregg just support him? :D :D :D

Every action has a reaction.
Inciting homophobia, the inciter must carry a portion of the blame for other's acting out their hate.

____ wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 5:22pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 4:01pm: ____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am: We have people like Liberal Senator Bernardi saying Cory Bernardi links same-sex marriage to polygamy and bestiality again https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/18/cory-bernardi-same-sex-bestiality Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend. What about islam? This thread is concerning politicians inciting homophobia. If you are not interested in discussing, feel free to start another thread.

You're suggesting that the mass shootings are the cause of politicians inciting homophobia. I'm asking you why you don't blame the ideas espoused by islam, given the shootings were caused by a guy who wasn't out there telling us he was doing it because of Corey Bernadi.

____ wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 5:24pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 4:02pm: So did Swinny just blame Cory Bernadi for the US massacre? Did Gregg just support him? :D :D :D Every action has a reaction. Inciting homophobia, the inciter must carry a portion of the blame for other's acting out their hate.

This is typical regressive left mentality. The fault of the mass shootings doesn't lie with Islam - it can't possibly lie with an idea that promotes homosexual people as being immoral infidels. No, the fault must lie somewhere else. Of course. We have to blame everyone but the actual root cause.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 11:56am:

____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am: Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend. Yes, absolutely. Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer. The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community.

The ultimate blame lies with a medieval era religion that can never be allowed to reform while we sit around and choose to blame Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi for its actions. Give me a break, the shooter would still have pulled the trigger if Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi were the nicest human beings who championed gay rights.

____ wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 12:03pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:52am: Hey Greens- do you believe this terrorist act will turn the gays against Islam?? Far right christians have attacked and killed gays. That didn't turn the gays against the majority of christians ...  peaceful leftwing Christians. I suspect the same will occur towards the majority of muslims. The peaceful leftwing muslims will not be scapegoated on. Well not by the gay community. Now back to my question. Should homophobic Australian politicians take a portion of the blame for inciting terror against gay people and so all moderate people everywhere?

The only difference is that the 'peaceful muslims' are a lot more homophobic than the 'peaceful christians.' And blaming christians for the actions of muslims isn't going to make 'peaceful muslims' any less homophobic.

Greens wrote....

Quote:

Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend.

No....People are responsible for their own views and actions!!!

::) ::) ::)

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 6:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:56am: ____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am: Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend. Yes, absolutely. Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer. The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community. The ultimate blame lies with a medieval era religion that can never be allowed to reform while we sit around and choose to blame Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi for its actions. Give me a break, the shooter would still have pulled the trigger if Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi were the nicest human beings who championed gay rights.

The shooter would still have pulled the trigger even if Islam didn't exist.

He was a deranged homophobe.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 7:09pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 6:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:56am: ____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am: Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend. Yes, absolutely. Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer. The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community. The ultimate blame lies with a medieval era religion that can never be allowed to reform while we sit around and choose to blame Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi for its actions. Give me a break, the shooter would still have pulled the trigger if Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi were the nicest human beings who championed gay rights. The shooter would still have pulled the trigger even if Islam didn't exist. He was a deranged homophobe.

Ignorance helps noone. What do you think promoted his homophobia?  Why is it so hard for you to admit the undeniable?  You're very quick to lash out at Corey Bernadi, but when it comes to the ideas espoused by Islam you try and tell us that it isn't Islam and the person would've always pulled the trigger. Perhaps, that part is an unknown. What is a known is that the man pulled the trigger on the teachings he received from Islam. That is a problem. That needs to be solved.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 7:21pm:

What is a known is that the man pulled the trigger on the teachings he received from Islam.

Really?

I assume you're going to post the evidence.

This should be good.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 7:25pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:21pm: What is a known is that the man pulled the trigger on the teachings he received from Islam. Really? I assume you're going to post the evidence. This should be good.

He didn't swear allegience to the Islamic State?

Its too frightening for the LGBTI groups to take on Muzzos.

They know that the Muzzos are absolutely and totally homophobic and actually preach killing of Homosexuals.

But they also know that they have absolutely no chance of taking them on, so its far easier to ignore the herd of elephants in the phone box.

So the pansy's will simply keep finding things to moan about rather than take on a truly homophobic religion.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 7:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:25pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:21pm: What is a known is that the man pulled the trigger on the teachings he received from Islam. Really? I assume you're going to post the evidence. This should be good. He didn't swear allegience to the Islamic State?

Keep the goal posts right where they are, thank you.

Prove it: "What is a known is that the man pulled the trigger on the teachings he received from Islam."

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 7:35pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:25pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:21pm: What is a known is that the man pulled the trigger on the teachings he received from Islam. Really? I assume you're going to post the evidence. This should be good. He didn't swear allegience to the Islamic State? Keep the goal posts right where they are, thank you. Prove it: "What is a known is that the man pulled the trigger on the teachings he received from Islam."

He swore allegience to a terrorist organisation that uses an interpretation of Islam as the basis of all its beliefs. You can claim all you want that it 'isn't Islam' but the fact remains that groups use its teachings to spread fascism and fear through a region. Not to mention the many fascist or quasifacist states that also use its teachings as the basis of their laws.

It amazes me that regressive left individuals like you are all to happy to associate teachings of a religion when it's Christianity (and rightly so), but the very moment we start talking about Islam it's 'Oh no, he must of got his homophobic beliefs from Corey Bernadi, not Islam. It's impossible, Islam is great, don't you dare question the ideas espoused by ISlam.'

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:35pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:25pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:21pm: What is a known is that the man pulled the trigger on the teachings he received from Islam. Really? I assume you're going to post the evidence. This should be good. He didn't swear allegience to the Islamic State? Keep the goal posts right where they are, thank you. Prove it: "What is a known is that the man pulled the trigger on the teachings he received from Islam." He swore allegience to a terrorist organisation that uses an interpretation of Islam as the basis of all its beliefs. You can claim all you want that it 'isn't Islam' but the fact remains that groups use its teachings to spread fascism and fear through a region. Not to mention the many fascist or quasifacist states that also use its teachings as the basis of their laws. It amazes me that regressive left individuals like you are all to happy to associate teachings of a religion when it's Christianity (and rightly so), but the very moment we start talking about Islam it's 'Oh no, he must of got his homophobic beliefs from Corey Bernadi, not Islam. It's impossible, Islam is great, don't you dare question the ideas espoused by ISlam.'

"What is a known is that the man pulled the trigger on the teachings he received from Islam."

Get back to me when you can prove it.

And, let the FBI know while you're at it.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 7:50pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:48pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:35pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:25pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:21pm: What is a known is that the man pulled the trigger on the teachings he received from Islam. Really? I assume you're going to post the evidence. This should be good. He didn't swear allegience to the Islamic State? Keep the goal posts right where they are, thank you. Prove it: "What is a known is that the man pulled the trigger on the teachings he received from Islam." He swore allegience to a terrorist organisation that uses an interpretation of Islam as the basis of all its beliefs. You can claim all you want that it 'isn't Islam' but the fact remains that groups use its teachings to spread fascism and fear through a region. Not to mention the many fascist or quasifacist states that also use its teachings as the basis of their laws. It amazes me that regressive left individuals like you are all to happy to associate teachings of a religion when it's Christianity (and rightly so), but the very moment we start talking about Islam it's 'Oh no, he must of got his homophobic beliefs from Corey Bernadi, not Islam. It's impossible, Islam is great, don't you dare question the ideas espoused by ISlam.' "What is a known is that the man pulled the trigger on the teachings he received from Islam." Get back to me when you can prove it. And, let the FBI know while you're at it.

An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 7:54pm:

An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child.

White flag accepted.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 7:50pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:48pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:35pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:25pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:21pm: What is a known is that the man pulled the trigger on the teachings he received from Islam. Really? I assume you're going to post the evidence. This should be good. He didn't swear allegience to the Islamic State? Keep the goal posts right where they are, thank you. Prove it: "What is a known is that the man pulled the trigger on the teachings he received from Islam." He swore allegience to a terrorist organisation that uses an interpretation of Islam as the basis of all its beliefs. You can claim all you want that it 'isn't Islam' but the fact remains that groups use its teachings to spread fascism and fear through a region. Not to mention the many fascist or quasifacist states that also use its teachings as the basis of their laws. It amazes me that regressive left individuals like you are all to happy to associate teachings of a religion when it's Christianity (and rightly so), but the very moment we start talking about Islam it's 'Oh no, he must of got his homophobic beliefs from Corey Bernadi, not Islam. It's impossible, Islam is great, don't you dare question the ideas espoused by ISlam.' "What is a known is that the man pulled the trigger on the teachings he received from Islam." Get back to me when you can prove it. And, let the FBI know while you're at it.

What about if he admitted it himself? That's why he stopped shooting- to tell the world of his allegiance to ISIS. Look it up Pecca.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 7:56pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:54pm: An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child. White flag accepted.

No white flag - it's just pointless debating with a guy who tells us the cause is Mr Hammer or Ian, when clearly the cause is the teachings of Islam and yet you are so deluded that you choose to ignore what is blatantly staring you in the face. Such irrationality is pointless to debate with.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 7:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:50pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:48pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:35pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:25pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:21pm: What is a known is that the man pulled the trigger on the teachings he received from Islam. Really? I assume you're going to post the evidence. This should be good. He didn't swear allegience to the Islamic State? Keep the goal posts right where they are, thank you. Prove it: "What is a known is that the man pulled the trigger on the teachings he received from Islam." He swore allegience to a terrorist organisation that uses an interpretation of Islam as the basis of all its beliefs. You can claim all you want that it 'isn't Islam' but the fact remains that groups use its teachings to spread fascism and fear through a region. Not to mention the many fascist or quasifacist states that also use its teachings as the basis of their laws. It amazes me that regressive left individuals like you are all to happy to associate teachings of a religion when it's Christianity (and rightly so), but the very moment we start talking about Islam it's 'Oh no, he must of got his homophobic beliefs from Corey Bernadi, not Islam. It's impossible, Islam is great, don't you dare question the ideas espoused by ISlam.' "What is a known is that the man pulled the trigger on the teachings he received from Islam." Get back to me when you can prove it. And, let the FBI know while you're at it. What about if he admitted it himself? That's why he stopped shooting- to tell the world of his allegiance to ISIS. Look it up Pecca.

Don't bother. Greg is an illogical human being. It was all your fault, Mr. Hammer. You did it. Terrible!

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 7:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:54pm: An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child. White flag accepted. No white flag - it's just pointless debating with a guy who tells us the cause is Mr Hammer or Ian, when clearly the cause is the teachings of Islam and yet you are so deluded that you choose to ignore what is blatantly staring you in the face. Such irrationality is pointless to debate with.

Thank you Alevine. Pecca has been making excuses all day. Instead of blaming Islam this is his list of blames-

Ian , gordy and me
He was a closet homosexual
American society
A homosexual experience he couldn't come to terms with.
Christianity
Homophobia.
Gun laws.

The list is growing by the hour.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:03pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:54pm: An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child. White flag accepted. No white flag - it's just pointless debating with a guy who tells us the cause is Mr Hammer or Ian, when clearly the cause is the teachings of Islam and yet you are so deluded that you choose to ignore what is blatantly staring you in the face. Such irrationality is pointless to debate with. Thank you Alevine. Pecca has been making excuses all day. Instead of blaming Islam this is his list of blames- Ian , gordy and me He was a closet homosexual American society A homosexual experience he couldn't come to terms with. Christianity Homophobia. Gun laws. The list is growing by the hour.

Oh, and because he was nuts.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:03pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:03pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:54pm: An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child. White flag accepted. No white flag - it's just pointless debating with a guy who tells us the cause is Mr Hammer or Ian, when clearly the cause is the teachings of Islam and yet you are so deluded that you choose to ignore what is blatantly staring you in the face. Such irrationality is pointless to debate with. Thank you Alevine. Pecca has been making excuses all day. Instead of blaming Islam this is his list of blames- Ian , gordy and me He was a closet homosexual American society A homosexual experience he couldn't come to terms with. Christianity Homophobia. Gun laws. The list is growing by the hour. Oh, and because he was nuts.

Let the record show that Mr Hammer believes that someone who indiscriminately murderers 50 innocent people, is not nuts.

::)

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:05pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:03pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:03pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:54pm: An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child. White flag accepted. No white flag - it's just pointless debating with a guy who tells us the cause is Mr Hammer or Ian, when clearly the cause is the teachings of Islam and yet you are so deluded that you choose to ignore what is blatantly staring you in the face. Such irrationality is pointless to debate with. Thank you Alevine. Pecca has been making excuses all day. Instead of blaming Islam this is his list of blames- Ian , gordy and me He was a closet homosexual American society A homosexual experience he couldn't come to terms with. Christianity Homophobia. Gun laws. The list is growing by the hour. Oh, and because he was nuts. Let the record show that Mr Hammer believes that someone who indiscriminately murderers 50 innocent people, is not nuts. ::)

People can murder and be found lawfully sane. He was sane enough to buy the right guns and pick out a target with lots of people he didn't like.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:05pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:03pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:03pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:54pm: An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child. White flag accepted. No white flag - it's just pointless debating with a guy who tells us the cause is Mr Hammer or Ian, when clearly the cause is the teachings of Islam and yet you are so deluded that you choose to ignore what is blatantly staring you in the face. Such irrationality is pointless to debate with. Thank you Alevine. Pecca has been making excuses all day. Instead of blaming Islam this is his list of blames- Ian , gordy and me He was a closet homosexual American society A homosexual experience he couldn't come to terms with. Christianity Homophobia. Gun laws. The list is growing by the hour. Oh, and because he was nuts. Let the record show that Mr Hammer believes that someone who indiscriminately murderers 50 innocent people, is not nuts. ::)

Let the record also show that greg believe that someone who murders 50 innocent people because of their sexual preferences and swears allegience to ISIS was not doing it because of his islamic beliefs.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:03pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:54pm: An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child. White flag accepted. No white flag - it's just pointless debating with a guy who tells us the cause is Mr Hammer or Ian, when clearly the cause is the teachings of Islam and yet you are so deluded that you choose to ignore what is blatantly staring you in the face. Such irrationality is pointless to debate with. Thank you Alevine. Pecca has been making excuses all day. Instead of blaming Islam this is his list of blames- Ian , gordy and me He was a closet homosexual American society A homosexual experience he couldn't come to terms with. Christianity Homophobia. Gun laws. The list is growing by the hour.

There's not one single cause.

Everything you mentioned in your list above may have contributed in some way.

Ultimately, though, the buck stops with the idiot who pulled the trigger.

Moreover, there's no way of knowing if he was always a homophobe, or if Islam gave him that disease.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:05pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:03pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:03pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:54pm: An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child. White flag accepted. No white flag - it's just pointless debating with a guy who tells us the cause is Mr Hammer or Ian, when clearly the cause is the teachings of Islam and yet you are so deluded that you choose to ignore what is blatantly staring you in the face. Such irrationality is pointless to debate with. Thank you Alevine. Pecca has been making excuses all day. Instead of blaming Islam this is his list of blames- Ian , gordy and me He was a closet homosexual American society A homosexual experience he couldn't come to terms with. Christianity Homophobia. Gun laws. The list is growing by the hour. Oh, and because he was nuts. Let the record show that Mr Hammer believes that someone who indiscriminately murderers 50 innocent people, is not nuts. ::) People can murder and be found lawfully sane. He was sane enough to buy the right guns and pick out a target with lots of people he didn't like.

Whatever helps you sleep at night, Homo.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:03pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:54pm: An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child. White flag accepted. No white flag - it's just pointless debating with a guy who tells us the cause is Mr Hammer or Ian, when clearly the cause is the teachings of Islam and yet you are so deluded that you choose to ignore what is blatantly staring you in the face. Such irrationality is pointless to debate with. Thank you Alevine. Pecca has been making excuses all day. Instead of blaming Islam this is his list of blames- Ian , gordy and me He was a closet homosexual American society A homosexual experience he couldn't come to terms with. Christianity Homophobia. Gun laws. The list is growing by the hour.

It is amazing the excuses the regressive left will come up with all to defend Islam. And for what reason? Unknown. But the result is of such irrational denial is devastating because what they inevitably end up doing is allowing the continuation of medieval ideas being used as reason to murder, deny human rights, rape, etc. No reform of Islam can ever occur while the regressive left continues its illogical quest to fight for fascist beliefs, derived from Islam, to be accepted in our societies.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:03pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:54pm: An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child. White flag accepted. No white flag - it's just pointless debating with a guy who tells us the cause is Mr Hammer or Ian, when clearly the cause is the teachings of Islam and yet you are so deluded that you choose to ignore what is blatantly staring you in the face. Such irrationality is pointless to debate with. Thank you Alevine. Pecca has been making excuses all day. Instead of blaming Islam this is his list of blames- Ian , gordy and me He was a closet homosexual American society A homosexual experience he couldn't come to terms with. Christianity Homophobia. Gun laws. The list is growing by the hour. There's not one single cause. Everything you mentioned in your list above may have contributed in some way. Ultimately, though, the buck stops with the idiot who pulled the trigger. Moreover, there's no way of knowing if he was always a homophobe, or if Islam gave him that disease.

Christianity contributed how?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:11pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:03pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:54pm: An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child. White flag accepted. No white flag - it's just pointless debating with a guy who tells us the cause is Mr Hammer or Ian, when clearly the cause is the teachings of Islam and yet you are so deluded that you choose to ignore what is blatantly staring you in the face. Such irrationality is pointless to debate with. Thank you Alevine. Pecca has been making excuses all day. Instead of blaming Islam this is his list of blames- Ian , gordy and me He was a closet homosexual American society A homosexual experience he couldn't come to terms with. Christianity Homophobia. Gun laws. The list is growing by the hour. It is amazing the excuses the regressive left will come up with all to defend Islam. And for what reason? Unknown. But the result is of such irrational denial is devastating because what they inevitably end up doing is allowing the continuation of medieval ideas being used as reason to murder, deny human rights, rape, etc. No reform of Islam can ever occur while the regressive left continues its illogical quest to fight for fascist beliefs, derived from Islam, to be accepted in our societies.

No excuses here.

Ultimately, though, the buck stops with the idiot who pulled the trigger.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:03pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:54pm: An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child. White flag accepted. No white flag - it's just pointless debating with a guy who tells us the cause is Mr Hammer or Ian, when clearly the cause is the teachings of Islam and yet you are so deluded that you choose to ignore what is blatantly staring you in the face. Such irrationality is pointless to debate with. Thank you Alevine. Pecca has been making excuses all day. Instead of blaming Islam this is his list of blames- Ian , gordy and me He was a closet homosexual American society A homosexual experience he couldn't come to terms with. Christianity Homophobia. Gun laws. The list is growing by the hour. There's not one single cause. Everything you mentioned in your list above may have contributed in some way. Ultimately, though, the buck stops with the idiot who pulled the trigger. Moreover, there's no way of knowing if he was always a homophobe, or if Islam gave him that disease.

You do know his father is a Taliban supporter. There is a video of him raving on about them. I watched it on CNN. This dude was an admitted radical islamist who had the normal radical islamist hatreds. I don't understand why you can't come to terms with this fact. Would you being going into the complexities of his psychological make up if he was a skinhead. I doubt it.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:10pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:03pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:54pm: An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child. White flag accepted. No white flag - it's just pointless debating with a guy who tells us the cause is Mr Hammer or Ian, when clearly the cause is the teachings of Islam and yet you are so deluded that you choose to ignore what is blatantly staring you in the face. Such irrationality is pointless to debate with. Thank you Alevine. Pecca has been making excuses all day. Instead of blaming Islam this is his list of blames- Ian , gordy and me He was a closet homosexual American society A homosexual experience he couldn't come to terms with. Christianity Homophobia. Gun laws. The list is growing by the hour. There's not one single cause. Everything you mentioned in your list above may have contributed in some way. Ultimately, though, the buck stops with the idiot who pulled the trigger. Moreover, there's no way of knowing if he was always a homophobe, or if Islam gave him that disease. Christianity contributed how?

"may have contributed"

Christianity preaches homophobia, just like Islam does.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:11pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:07pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:05pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:03pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:03pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:54pm: An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child. White flag accepted. No white flag - it's just pointless debating with a guy who tells us the cause is Mr Hammer or Ian, when clearly the cause is the teachings of Islam and yet you are so deluded that you choose to ignore what is blatantly staring you in the face. Such irrationality is pointless to debate with. Thank you Alevine. Pecca has been making excuses all day. Instead of blaming Islam this is his list of blames- Ian , gordy and me He was a closet homosexual American society A homosexual experience he couldn't come to terms with. Christianity Homophobia. Gun laws. The list is growing by the hour. Oh, and because he was nuts. Let the record show that Mr Hammer believes that someone who indiscriminately murderers 50 innocent people, is not nuts. ::) People can murder and be found lawfully sane. He was sane enough to buy the right guns and pick out a target with lots of people he didn't like. Whatever helps you sleep at night, Homo.

What's that mean Pecca?

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:10pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:03pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:54pm: An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child. White flag accepted. No white flag - it's just pointless debating with a guy who tells us the cause is Mr Hammer or Ian, when clearly the cause is the teachings of Islam and yet you are so deluded that you choose to ignore what is blatantly staring you in the face. Such irrationality is pointless to debate with. Thank you Alevine. Pecca has been making excuses all day. Instead of blaming Islam this is his list of blames- Ian , gordy and me He was a closet homosexual American society A homosexual experience he couldn't come to terms with. Christianity Homophobia. Gun laws. The list is growing by the hour. There's not one single cause. Everything you mentioned in your list above may have contributed in some way. Ultimately, though, the buck stops with the idiot who pulled the trigger. Moreover, there's no way of knowing if he was always a homophobe, or if Islam gave him that disease. You do know his father is a Taliban supporter.

Yes.

Father and son: both nuts.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:13pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:11pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:03pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:54pm: An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child. White flag accepted. No white flag - it's just pointless debating with a guy who tells us the cause is Mr Hammer or Ian, when clearly the cause is the teachings of Islam and yet you are so deluded that you choose to ignore what is blatantly staring you in the face. Such irrationality is pointless to debate with. Thank you Alevine. Pecca has been making excuses all day. Instead of blaming Islam this is his list of blames- Ian , gordy and me He was a closet homosexual American society A homosexual experience he couldn't come to terms with. Christianity Homophobia. Gun laws. The list is growing by the hour. It is amazing the excuses the regressive left will come up with all to defend Islam. And for what reason? Unknown. But the result is of such irrational denial is devastating because what they inevitably end up doing is allowing the continuation of medieval ideas being used as reason to murder, deny human rights, rape, etc. No reform of Islam can ever occur while the regressive left continues its illogical quest to fight for fascist beliefs, derived from Islam, to be accepted in our societies. No excuses here. Ultimately, though, the buck stops with the idiot who pulled the trigger.

From the legal perspective, of course. But in order to actually try to mitigate and stop such events in the future, aside from better gun control in the US, is to target the root cause. And as admited by the shooter himself, the root cause is his beliefs as derived from the ideas of Islam.  I don't understand your need to sugarcoat it. What good does it do anyone to sugar coat what is blatantly obvious?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:14pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:12pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:10pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:03pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:54pm: An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child. White flag accepted. No white flag - it's just pointless debating with a guy who tells us the cause is Mr Hammer or Ian, when clearly the cause is the teachings of Islam and yet you are so deluded that you choose to ignore what is blatantly staring you in the face. Such irrationality is pointless to debate with. Thank you Alevine. Pecca has been making excuses all day. Instead of blaming Islam this is his list of blames- Ian , gordy and me He was a closet homosexual American society A homosexual experience he couldn't come to terms with. Christianity Homophobia. Gun laws. The list is growing by the hour. There's not one single cause. Everything you mentioned in your list above may have contributed in some way. Ultimately, though, the buck stops with the idiot who pulled the trigger. Moreover, there's no way of knowing if he was always a homophobe, or if Islam gave him that disease. Christianity contributed how? "may have contributed" Christianity preaches homophobia, just like Islam does.

In this case how may Christiantiy have contributed? Why is Christianity on your list, but not Islam?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:19pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:14pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:10pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:03pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:54pm: An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child. White flag accepted. No white flag - it's just pointless debating with a guy who tells us the cause is Mr Hammer or Ian, when clearly the cause is the teachings of Islam and yet you are so deluded that you choose to ignore what is blatantly staring you in the face. Such irrationality is pointless to debate with. Thank you Alevine. Pecca has been making excuses all day. Instead of blaming Islam this is his list of blames- Ian , gordy and me He was a closet homosexual American society A homosexual experience he couldn't come to terms with. Christianity Homophobia. Gun laws. The list is growing by the hour. There's not one single cause. Everything you mentioned in your list above may have contributed in some way. Ultimately, though, the buck stops with the idiot who pulled the trigger. Moreover, there's no way of knowing if he was always a homophobe, or if Islam gave him that disease. You do know his father is a Taliban supporter. Yes. Father and son: both nuts.

and radical islamists.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:14pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:12pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:10pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:03pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:54pm: An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child. White flag accepted. No white flag - it's just pointless debating with a guy who tells us the cause is Mr Hammer or Ian, when clearly the cause is the teachings of Islam and yet you are so deluded that you choose to ignore what is blatantly staring you in the face. Such irrationality is pointless to debate with. Thank you Alevine. Pecca has been making excuses all day. Instead of blaming Islam this is his list of blames- Ian , gordy and me He was a closet homosexual American society A homosexual experience he couldn't come to terms with. Christianity Homophobia. Gun laws. The list is growing by the hour. There's not one single cause. Everything you mentioned in your list above may have contributed in some way. Ultimately, though, the buck stops with the idiot who pulled the trigger. Moreover, there's no way of knowing if he was always a homophobe, or if Islam gave him that disease. Christianity contributed how? "may have contributed" Christianity preaches homophobia, just like Islam does. In this case how may Christiantiy have contributed? Why is Christianity on your list, but not Islam?

It's not my list: it's Mr Hammer's.

I'll gladly add Islam to my list, though.

Both Islam and Christianity promote homophobia, and thus both religions sow the seeds of hate in society.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:21pm:

and radical islamists.

Yes, but you see, regressive left doesn't want to deal with that part. It's 'islamophobic' to call out what is true.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:19pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:14pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:10pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:03pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:54pm: An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child. White flag accepted. No white flag - it's just pointless debating with a guy who tells us the cause is Mr Hammer or Ian, when clearly the cause is the teachings of Islam and yet you are so deluded that you choose to ignore what is blatantly staring you in the face. Such irrationality is pointless to debate with. Thank you Alevine. Pecca has been making excuses all day. Instead of blaming Islam this is his list of blames- Ian , gordy and me He was a closet homosexual American society A homosexual experience he couldn't come to terms with. Christianity Homophobia. Gun laws. The list is growing by the hour. There's not one single cause. Everything you mentioned in your list above may have contributed in some way. Ultimately, though, the buck stops with the idiot who pulled the trigger. Moreover, there's no way of knowing if he was always a homophobe, or if Islam gave him that disease. You do know his father is a Taliban supporter. Yes. Father and son: both nuts. and radical islamists.

Absolutely.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:22pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:21pm: and radical islamists. Yes, but you see, regressive left doesn't want to deal with that part. It's 'islamophobic' to call out what is true.

Even Obama couldn't do it. I can understand him- he doesn't want a backlash. I can't understand pecca and his leftie mates.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:23pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:21pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:19pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:14pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:10pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:03pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:54pm: An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child. White flag accepted. No white flag - it's just pointless debating with a guy who tells us the cause is Mr Hammer or Ian, when clearly the cause is the teachings of Islam and yet you are so deluded that you choose to ignore what is blatantly staring you in the face. Such irrationality is pointless to debate with. Thank you Alevine. Pecca has been making excuses all day. Instead of blaming Islam this is his list of blames- Ian , gordy and me He was a closet homosexual American society A homosexual experience he couldn't come to terms with. Christianity Homophobia. Gun laws. The list is growing by the hour. There's not one single cause. Everything you mentioned in your list above may have contributed in some way. Ultimately, though, the buck stops with the idiot who pulled the trigger. Moreover, there's no way of knowing if he was always a homophobe, or if Islam gave him that disease. You do know his father is a Taliban supporter. Yes. Father and son: both nuts. and radical islamists. Absolutely.

That wasn't hard, was it?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:22pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:20pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:14pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:12pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:10pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:03pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:54pm: An incredibly childish strategy that only seeks to keep Islam in the medieval times, and ensures mass murders in the name of Islam continue.  Well done child. White flag accepted. No white flag - it's just pointless debating with a guy who tells us the cause is Mr Hammer or Ian, when clearly the cause is the teachings of Islam and yet you are so deluded that you choose to ignore what is blatantly staring you in the face. Such irrationality is pointless to debate with. Thank you Alevine. Pecca has been making excuses all day. Instead of blaming Islam this is his list of blames- Ian , gordy and me He was a closet homosexual American society A homosexual experience he couldn't come to terms with. Christianity Homophobia. Gun laws. The list is growing by the hour. There's not one single cause. Everything you mentioned in your list above may have contributed in some way. Ultimately, though, the buck stops with the idiot who pulled the trigger. Moreover, there's no way of knowing if he was always a homophobe, or if Islam gave him that disease. Christianity contributed how? "may have contributed" Christianity preaches homophobia, just like Islam does. In this case how may Christiantiy have contributed? Why is Christianity on your list, but not Islam? It's not my list: it's Mr Hammer's. I'll gladly add Islam to my list, though. Both Islam and Christianity promote homophobia, and thus both religions sow the seeds of hate in society.

it was your list of excuses, as compiled by Mr Hammer. 

ANd how nice that you can now add it to the list. It should have been the very first thing, and not Bernadi, or Mr Hammer, or Ian. This dumb sh1t killer swore allegience to the Islamic state, which promotes these interpreted ideas of Islam.  Clearly the root cause is his belief in the teachings. You should have gotten up and instantly said, Problem = his interpretation of Islamic teachings. 

I'm glad you finally managed to add it to your list.  How nice of you to consider it, finally.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:25pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:22pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:21pm: and radical islamists. Yes, but you see, regressive left doesn't want to deal with that part. It's 'islamophobic' to call out what is true. Even Obama couldn't do it. I can understand him- he doesn't want a backlash. I can't understand pecca and his leftie mates.

Obama called it out.

It's just the pure regressive left, like Greens Win and this pathetic OP, and greggy, that find it very hard to acknowledge the obvious.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:26pm:

Clearly the root cause is his belief in the teachings.

That's merely an assumption on your behalf.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:32pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:26pm: Clearly the root cause is his belief in the teachings. That's merely an assumption on your behalf.

A much more logical assumption, in this case, than Bernadi. 

But by all means, why don't you tell me it's Ian again. Or perhaps Mr Hammer?  Or perhaps Christianity? I'm sure it must have been Christianity. The maniac swore allegiance to IS because of the Christian beliefs of Bernadi. That's very rational.  Must be it.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 7:09pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 6:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:56am: ____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am: Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend. Yes, absolutely. Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer. The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community. The ultimate blame lies with a medieval era religion that can never be allowed to reform while we sit around and choose to blame Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi for its actions. Give me a break, the shooter would still have pulled the trigger if Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi were the nicest human beings who championed gay rights. The shooter would still have pulled the trigger even if Islam didn't exist. He was a deranged homophobe.

He was a deranged Homophobe because of his religious teachings...  radical Islamic teaching Gregg.
Denial ain't just a river apparently, but flows from you.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 8:32pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:26pm: Clearly the root cause is his belief in the teachings. That's merely an assumption on your behalf.

Oh no Gregg you made the biggest assumption here, one that goes against all logic and facts.
The shooter would still have pulled the trigger even if Islam didn't exist.

What a Whopper. :D

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 9:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:32pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:26pm: Clearly the root cause is his belief in the teachings. That's merely an assumption on your behalf. Oh no Gregg you made the biggest assumption here, one that goes against all logic and facts. The shooter would still have pulled the trigger even if Islam didn't exist. What a Whopper. :D

Apologist.

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 9:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:09pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 6:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:56am: ____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am: Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend. Yes, absolutely. Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer. The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community. The ultimate blame lies with a medieval era religion that can never be allowed to reform while we sit around and choose to blame Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi for its actions. Give me a break, the shooter would still have pulled the trigger if Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi were the nicest human beings who championed gay rights. The shooter would still have pulled the trigger even if Islam didn't exist. He was a deranged homophobe. He was a deranged Homophobe because of his religious teachings...

Prove it.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 9:44pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:09pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 6:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:56am: ____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am: Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend. Yes, absolutely. Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer. The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community. The ultimate blame lies with a medieval era religion that can never be allowed to reform while we sit around and choose to blame Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi for its actions. Give me a break, the shooter would still have pulled the trigger if Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi were the nicest human beings who championed gay rights. The shooter would still have pulled the trigger even if Islam didn't exist. He was a deranged homophobe. He was a deranged Homophobe because of his religious teachings...  Prove it.

his allegience to IS.

IS kill homosexuals...  they even throw them from the tops of apartment buildings they hate homosexuality and homosexuals.

He stated he was a supporter of IS.
He therefore is a radical Islamist fundamentalist who Has been taught to hate homosexuals.
People who know him have stated he was violent and hated homosexuals.
What rock have you been under all day Gregg?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 9:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:44pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:09pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 6:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:56am: ____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am: Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend. Yes, absolutely. Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer. The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community. The ultimate blame lies with a medieval era religion that can never be allowed to reform while we sit around and choose to blame Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi for its actions. Give me a break, the shooter would still have pulled the trigger if Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi were the nicest human beings who championed gay rights. The shooter would still have pulled the trigger even if Islam didn't exist. He was a deranged homophobe. He was a deranged Homophobe because of his religious teachings...  Prove it. his allegience to IS.

Lol   ;D

That's not proof.

Try again.

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 9:49pm:

IS kill homosexuals...

Bananas are yellow.

Therefore, everything yellow is a banana.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 9:49pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:45pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:44pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:09pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 6:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:56am: ____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am: Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend. Yes, absolutely. Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer. The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community. The ultimate blame lies with a medieval era religion that can never be allowed to reform while we sit around and choose to blame Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi for its actions. Give me a break, the shooter would still have pulled the trigger if Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi were the nicest human beings who championed gay rights. The shooter would still have pulled the trigger even if Islam didn't exist. He was a deranged homophobe. He was a deranged Homophobe because of his religious teachings...  Prove it. his allegience to IS. Lol   ;D That's not proof. Try again.

you think he's a christian who aligns with IS? Perhaps he's a Jew?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 9:51pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:49pm: IS kill homosexuals...  Bananas are yellow. Therefore, everything yellow is a banana.

This is not a correlation does not equate causation scenario. The reality is that he calls up, pledges allegience to IS, and then goes ahead and kills 50 people and injures another 50 or so. He wasn't doing it because bananas are yellow.  It is quite clear why he did it.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 9:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:49pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:45pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:44pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:09pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 6:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:56am: ____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am: Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend. Yes, absolutely. Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer. The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community. The ultimate blame lies with a medieval era religion that can never be allowed to reform while we sit around and choose to blame Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi for its actions. Give me a break, the shooter would still have pulled the trigger if Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi were the nicest human beings who championed gay rights. The shooter would still have pulled the trigger even if Islam didn't exist. He was a deranged homophobe. He was a deranged Homophobe because of his religious teachings...  Prove it. his allegience to IS. Lol   ;D That's not proof. Try again. you think he's a christian who aligns with IS? Perhaps he's a Jew?

I think he could have been infected with the disease of homophobia before Islam ever got to him.

Your homework: prove me wrong.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 9:54pm:

It is quite clear why he did it.

Indeed.

He was an insane homophobe.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 9:55pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:53pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:49pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:45pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:44pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 7:09pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 6:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:56am: ____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 11:46am: Should homophobic MPs take some of the responsibility for inciting hate crimes against gay people, be it in Australia or overseas, like in Orlando this weekend. Yes, absolutely. Along with people like ian and Mr Hammer. The ultimate blame lies with the homophobic murderer who pulled the trigger (no excuses for him), but ian, Bernardi and their fellow homophobes are sowing the seeds of hate in the community. The ultimate blame lies with a medieval era religion that can never be allowed to reform while we sit around and choose to blame Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi for its actions. Give me a break, the shooter would still have pulled the trigger if Ian, Mr Hammer or Corey Bernadi were the nicest human beings who championed gay rights. The shooter would still have pulled the trigger even if Islam didn't exist. He was a deranged homophobe. He was a deranged Homophobe because of his religious teachings...  Prove it. his allegience to IS. Lol   ;D That's not proof. Try again. you think he's a christian who aligns with IS? Perhaps he's a Jew? I think he could have been infected with the disease of homophobia before Islam ever got to him. Your homework: prove me wrong.

I think you're trying to come up with excuses. Tsk tsk.

I'll go with the logical choice here. You go with the 'It's anything but' choice.  This is the same argument as christians use to prove god. Absence of prove isn't prove. What we know is he swore allegiance to ISIS. He is a muslim who subscribes to the ISIS view of Islam and the world. 

But you go ahead and try and solve the issues by roundabout way, and ending up with your head chopped off. I'll go the direct way.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 9:56pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:54pm:   It is quite clear why he did it. Indeed. He was an insane homophobe.

Yes, because he was a IS affiliate who interpreted the ideas of Islam that made him hate homosexuals.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 9:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:54pm:   It is quite clear why he did it. Indeed. He was an insane homophobe. Yes, because he was a IS affiliate who interpreted the ideas of Islam that made him hate homosexuals.

Merely your Islamophobic interpretation.

I think he could have been infected with the disease of homophobia before Islam ever got to him.

Your homework: prove me wrong.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 10:01pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:54pm:   It is quite clear why he did it. Indeed. He was an insane homophobe. Yes, because he was a IS affiliate who interpreted the ideas of Islam that made him hate homosexuals. Merely your Islamophobic interpretation. I think he could have been infected with the disease of homophobia before Islam ever got to him. Your homework: prove me wrong.

Actually no - given I have actual evidence to suggest why I think it is his interpretation of Islamic ideas that caused this it is up to you to show all of us that he was a homophobe before he was a devoit muslim.

Off you go :)  Enjoy.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 9:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:54pm:   It is quite clear why he did it. Indeed. He was an insane homophobe. Yes, because he was a IS affiliate who interpreted the ideas of Islam that made him hate homosexuals.

Can you prove that?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 10:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 10:01pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:56pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:54pm:   It is quite clear why he did it. Indeed. He was an insane homophobe. Yes, because he was a IS affiliate who interpreted the ideas of Islam that made him hate homosexuals. Merely your Islamophobic interpretation. I think he could have been infected with the disease of homophobia before Islam ever got to him. Your homework: prove me wrong. Actually no.

I didn't think you could.

Time to address reality Gregg... :D :D :D :D :D
One isn't born with a hatred of homosexuals one has to learn it from somewhere.
Islam is such a place and death is the penalty in Islam for it.

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 10:24pm:

One isn't born with a hatred of homosexuals one has to learn it from somewhere.

Exactly.

Where did you learn it from?

Where did ian learn it from?

Where did Bernardi learn it from?

Are you all Muslims?

Or, are you all Christians?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 10:24pm: One isn't born with a hatred of homosexuals one has to learn it from somewhere. Exactly. Where did you learn it from? Where did ian learn it from? Where did Bernardi learn it from? Are you all Muslims? Or, are you all Christians?

Why is any of that relevant? Does it matter why Ian is a homophobe or Mr Hammer or Grendel? All that matters is that we know Islam teaches homophobic beliefs, and this guy affiliated with an organisation that spreads these beliefs, and immediately after went ahead to shoot 50 people dead, and 50 odd injured.

Stop making excuses for Islam.  Ian being a homophobe, Mr Hammer, etc, does not excuse Islam from espousing homophobic beliefs. 

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 10:24pm: One isn't born with a hatred of homosexuals one has to learn it from somewhere. Exactly. Where did you learn it from?  I didn't, I don't, I have gay friends. Or, are you all Christians?  He wasn't a Christian Gregg, he was a Muslim, the penalty for homosexuality is death in Islam. He learned to hate homosexuals from Islamic teachings. Prove me wrong, sweetheart ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 10:31pm:

Ian being a homophobe, Mr Hammer, etc, does not excuse Islam from espousing homophobic beliefs.

Correct.

Who said it did?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 10:33pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 10:31pm: Ian being a homophobe, Mr Hammer, etc, does not excuse Islam from espousing homophobic beliefs.  Correct. Who said it did?

you.