Quite a shocking case where the victim was left naked and unconscious behind a dumpster. This is more than just rape.

The judge let him off with a 6 month sentence with probation probably means he won't spend any time in jail.

What is worse, the guy must have had accomplices who helped or permitted him to carry the girl to the location where he raped her. None of these accomplices were implicated or charged. This implicates the cops in a cover up.

Freemason police, Freemason judge and Freemason dad?

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/06/us/sexual-assault-brock-turner-stanford/


Quote:

Widespread outrage has erupted over a California judge's decision to give a former Stanford University swimmer a six-month jail sentence for sexually assaulting an unconscious woman. Critics are blasting the decision as far too lenient. Prosecutors had asked that Brock Turner be sentenced to six years in prison for the January 2015 assault. The controversial sentence was followed by the release of two dueling letters to the judge about the case that have been widely shared and sparked further outcry: one from the victim, who described her ordeal in 12 searing pages; and another from Turner's father, who dismissed his son's crime as "20 minutes of action." Turner, 20, was convicted in March of the intent to commit rape of an intoxicated/unconscious person, penetration of an intoxicated person and penetration of an unconscious person. Santa Clara County Superior Court Judge Aaron Persky said on Thursday that Turner's age and lack of criminal history made him feel that imposing a six-month jail sentence with probation was appropriate. Turner also has to register as a sex offender. "A prison sentence would have a severe impact on him," Persky said. "I think he will not be a danger to others." But by the early hours of Tuesday morning, more than 191,000 people had signed a Change.org petition to recall Persky, a possibility in California, where judges are elected. "Judge Persky failed to see that the fact that Brock Turner is a white male star athlete at a prestigious university does not entitle him to leniency," the petition read. "He also failed to send the message that sexual assault is against the law regardless of social class, race, gender or other factors. Please help rectify this travesty to justice."

Very disturbing case.

Which Mosque does the rapist attend?

And, why is he wearing white makeup in this photo?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/7485360-3x4-340x453.jpg

A black man would have got at least 10 years.

Some justice for the victim, hey.

are you suggesting that good ol  American judges are biased???

Another case of "affluenza?"

Ethan Couch

cods wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 3:11pm:

are you suggesting that good ol  American judges are biased???

Yes.

Uh oh, crazy leftards are going down the moral equivalency highway again  ;D , essentially what they are saying is that because they have found an example of the extremely rare white rapist we should forgive a wholesale black and muslim rape culture and introduce it into our society en masse.

Leftards do this for two reasons, the female leftards want to be raped by muslims ( this is similar to the mice that want to be eaten by cats disease http://www.nature.com/news/parasite-makes-mice-lose-fear-of-cats-permanently-1.13777) and the male leftards want to rape chicks but need rape to be wholesale so that they can do it themselves without being noticed.

Basically leftards are uncultured animals that want to get back to the rule of the law of the jungle as soon as possible, this is why they gravitate towards the worst of the worst of human deviants and want to make them their new neighbours as soon as possible.

The judge will lose his job.
Justice.

cods wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 3:11pm:

are you suggesting that good ol  American judges are biased???

Perhaps not by colour but some sentences handed down for well off people compared to those not so well off is shocking.

In the link above Ethan Couch ploughed his car into four people killing them while drunk and critically injured two others. One of whom remains paralysed.

A psychologist said he suffered from affluenza a term which means that his wealthy parents pretty much let him get away with everything, so he never learnt right from wrong.

He got a ten year probation and walked free. Then promptly breeched his probation by drinking and fleeing to Mexico. A couple months ago he fronted a Texas court and was sentenced to 720 days in prison. 180 for each person killed. He even had the cheek to appeal the sentence.

mothra wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

A black man would have got at least 10 years. Some justice for the victim, hey.

Oj got away with murder.  It's about  $ you lefty idgiot

GordyL wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 3:21pm:

The judge will lose his job. Justice.

Will Freemasons allow that?

Raven wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 3:23pm:

cods wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:11pm: are you suggesting that good ol  American judges are biased??? Perhaps not by colour but some sentences handed down for well off people compared to those not so well off is shocking. .

What are the statistics on that, or is this just based on one sample.

GordyL wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 3:25pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:03pm: A black man would have got at least 10 years. Some justice for the victim, hey. Oj got away with murder.  It's about  $ you lefty idgiot

Correct

OJ also got away with murder because some stupid cop planted evidence. OJ was guilty as sin. Hell the bloke even did a victory lap in his car around LA after the crime.

Steampipe wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 3:32pm:

Raven wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:23pm: cods wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:11pm: are you suggesting that good ol  American judges are biased??? Perhaps not by colour but some sentences handed down for well off people compared to those not so well off is shocking. . What are the statistics on that, or is this just based on one sample.

I don't have stats on hand but I've heard countless say in USA you get the justice you can afford

GordyL wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 3:34pm:

Steampipe wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:32pm: Raven wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:23pm: cods wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:11pm: are you suggesting that good ol  American judges are biased??? Perhaps not by colour but some sentences handed down for well off people compared to those not so well off is shocking. . What are the statistics on that, or is this just based on one sample. I don't have stats on hand but I've heard countless say in USA you get the justice you can afford

Is that due to better representation or from judges being biased.

Steampipe wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 3:36pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:34pm: Steampipe wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:32pm: Raven wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:23pm: cods wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:11pm: are you suggesting that good ol  American judges are biased??? Perhaps not by colour but some sentences handed down for well off people compared to those not so well off is shocking. . What are the statistics on that, or is this just based on one sample. I don't have stats on hand but I've heard countless say in USA you get the justice you can afford Is that due to better representation or from judges being biased.

No doubt both but IMHO better representation would be a huge factor .

There is no doubt that sentences in USA are racially based and that a black man would have got the 15 year maximum.

So hang on, let me get this right.

This rapist is neither tinted nor a Muslim - is that correct?

Steampipe wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 3:36pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:34pm: Steampipe wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:32pm: Raven wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:23pm: cods wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:11pm: are you suggesting that good ol  American judges are biased??? Perhaps not by colour but some sentences handed down for well off people compared to those not so well off is shocking. . What are the statistics on that, or is this just based on one sample. I don't have stats on hand but I've heard countless say in USA you get the justice you can afford Is that due to better representation or from judges being biased.

There could be some potential bias in play. The standard view is those on a lower socio economic scale are more inclined to commit crimes and therefore should be punished more.

Though GordyL hits the nail on the head. Better representation would be a huge factor.

Poorer people have to contend with the overworked Public Defenders office. As such the ability to put up a better defence is limited.

Woman who gave character references for jock rapist suffers the consequences of public disapproval of her trivializing the rape incident to influence the sentencing.

The rapist carted the victim out of the party, deposited her behind a dumpster, stripped her and was humping away while she was unconscious.

The victim was lucky she was rescued by a couple of guys on bicycles who intervened.

She wrote “I don’t think it’s fair to base the fate of the next ten + years of his life on the decision of a girl who doesn’t remember anything but the amount she drank to press charges against him,”:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/09/nyregion/drummer-defends-stanford-student-convicted-in-rape-case-her-band-pays-a-price.html


Quote:

Good English is a small-time band from Oakwood, Ohio, three sisters with a garage rock vibe. In Brooklyn, this week, they became pariahs. The women have found themselves at the center of a debate about sexual assault after a pre-sentencing letter written to a judge a few months ago by one of the sisters, Leslie Rasmussen, involving the case of a Stanford University student who was convicted of sexually assaulting an intoxicated woman, was made public. Ms. Rasmussen, in her letter, described the student, Brock Allen Turner, as a childhood friend and an elementary school classmate, and defended him. In rapid succession, Good English has been dropped from several Brooklyn venues where they were scheduled to play, as well as the Northside Festival, a weeklong music festival that began on Monday. Other festivals have also announced that the band will no longer be performing. “When people choose to defend something, then I think they should be held accountable for it,” said Daniel Stedman, a founder of the Northside Media Group, which runs the Brooklyn festival. ... In her letter, Ms. Rasmussen, 20, says that there was a distinction between rape and Mr. Turner’s case, and suggested that alcohol was to blame for his actions. ... “I don’t think it’s fair to base the fate of the next ten + years of his life on the decision of a girl who doesn’t remember anything but the amount she drank to press charges against him,” Ms. Rasmussen, who plays drums in the band, wrote. “But where do we draw the line and stop worrying about being politically correct every second of the day and see that rape on campus isn’t always because people are rapists.” Mr. Turner was convicted of three counts of felony sexual assault for the attack, which took place in January 2015. This week the judge in the case, Aaron Persky of Superior Court in Santa Clara County, Calif., came under withering criticism from the public for the sentence he imposed: six months in jail and probation. ... Following the firestorm her letter provoked, Ms. Rasmussen said that her words were being twisted and that she was being unfairly stigmatized. “This appeal has now provided an opportunity for people to misconstrue my ideas into a distortion that suggests I sympathize with sex offenses and those who commit them or that I blame the victim involved,” she said in a statement. Ms. Rasmussen also believed that the letter to the judge was private. But a spokesman for the court said she was wrong — such letters, like most documents entered into the court, are a matter of public record. Within hours of Ms. Rasmussen’s letter being made public by New York magazine, Good English was removed from a roster of Brooklyn venues where they were scheduled to perform in the coming days, including Rock Shop in Gowanus, Industry City Distillery in Greenwood, Gold Sounds in Bushwick, and Bar Matchless in Greenpoint. “We don’t want to be affiliated with anyone that’s going to try to victim-blame or even just downplay rape,” said Larry Hyland, an owner of Bar Matchless. Mr. Hyland said he had received over 50 emails and posts on the bar’s Facebook page demanding that the band’s show be canceled. Some of the messages, he said, included threats to confront the band members if they did perform. “We didn’t cancel the show because of censorship,” he said, adding that while he disagreed with the content of Ms. Rasmussen’s letter, he understood the impulse to want to help a childhood friend. “I wanted to avoid an unsafe environment.” On Tuesday, the Dayton Music Art and Film Festival near the band’s hometown announced that it, too, was removing the band from its September lineup. “Such actions should not be defended, friend or not,” the festival wrote on its Facebook page. On Wednesday, Behind the Curtains Media, the public relations firm that represented Good English, dropped them from its client roster. In her statement, Ms. Rasmussen attributed the fallout from her initial letter not to what she wrote, but to “the overzealous nature of social media.” In particular, she lamented the “uproar of judgment and hatred unleashed on me” and the effect it was having on her musical aspirations.

mothra wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

A black man would have got at least 10 years.

What color is OJ Simpson again?

AiA wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:35am:

mothra wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:03pm: A black man would have got at least 10 years. What color is OJ Simpson again?

Mr Hammer should be able to help us with that one.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:37am:

AiA wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 10:35am: mothra wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:03pm: A black man would have got at least 10 years. What color is OJ Simpson again? Mr Hammer should be able to help us with that one.

Mr. Hammer visualizes every problem as a nail and then smashes it.

The publicity this case is getting is massively disproportionate to its importance, especially to us in Australia.  It's all about advancing the narrative.

... wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:50am:

The publicity this case is getting is massively disproportionate to its importance, especially to us in Australia.  It's all about advancing the narrative.

No its not. Its about privilege and the trivializing of rape by privileged persons.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:52am:

... wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 10:50am: The publicity this case is getting is massively disproportionate to its importance, especially to us in Australia.  It's all about advancing the narrative. No its not. Its about privilege and the trivializing of rape by privileged persons.

That's the narrative,  and aren't you dopes just lovin' it?

... wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 10:53am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 10:52am: ... wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 10:50am: The publicity this case is getting is massively disproportionate to its importance, especially to us in Australia.  It's all about advancing the narrative. No its not. Its about privilege and the trivializing of rape by privileged persons. That's the narrative,  and aren't you dopes just lovin' it?

Its put a bee in Honky's bonnet. Does this imply that one of Honky's loved ones was a perpetrator in a similar case?

Theres no bee.

I recognise someones trying to put a bee in all of our bonnets, but why would I let that happen? 

Why are you letting it happen?

am already sick of seeing this twat's image all over the net. he'll be guarding his own (anal) virginity soon enuf

innocentbystander. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 3:21pm:

Uh oh, crazy leftards are going down the moral equivalency highway again  ;D , essentially what they are saying is that because they have found an example of the extremely rare white rapist we should forgive a wholesale black and muslim rape culture and introduce it into our society en masse. Leftards do this for two reasons, the female leftards want to be raped by muslims ( this is similar to the mice that want to be eaten by cats disease http://www.nature.com/news/parasite-makes-mice-lose-fear-of-cats-permanently-1.13777) and the male leftards want to rape chicks but need rape to be wholesale so that they can do it themselves without being noticed. Basically leftards are uncultured animals that want to get back to the rule of the law of the jungle as soon as possible, this is why they gravitate towards the worst of the worst of human deviants and want to make them their new neighbours as soon as possible.

Hmm, I dont know.  If you look at the amount of child molesters going to third world country for sex, and the royal commission into institutionalized child sex abuse.  People would be forgiven to think that Aussie male have a whole sale culture of not just rape, but child molestation.

tickleandrose wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 11:57am:

innocentbystander. wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:21pm: Uh oh, crazy leftards are going down the moral equivalency highway again  ;D , essentially what they are saying is that because they have found an example of the extremely rare white rapist we should forgive a wholesale black and muslim rape culture and introduce it into our society en masse. Leftards do this for two reasons, the female leftards want to be raped by muslims ( this is similar to the mice that want to be eaten by cats disease http://www.nature.com/news/parasite-makes-mice-lose-fear-of-cats-permanently-1.13777) and the male leftards want to rape chicks but need rape to be wholesale so that they can do it themselves without being noticed. Basically leftards are uncultured animals that want to get back to the rule of the law of the jungle as soon as possible, this is why they gravitate towards the worst of the worst of human deviants and want to make them their new neighbours as soon as possible. Hmm, I dont know.  If you look at the amount of child molesters going to third world country for sex, and the royal commission into institutionalized child sex abuse.  People would be forgiven to think that Aussie male have a whole sale culture of not just rape, but child molestation.

yet nothings said about the parents who sell their children for sex in these countries and the cultural acceptance of such.

ian wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 12:46pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 11:57am: innocentbystander. wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:21pm: Uh oh, crazy leftards are going down the moral equivalency highway again  ;D , essentially what they are saying is that because they have found an example of the extremely rare white rapist we should forgive a wholesale black and muslim rape culture and introduce it into our society en masse. Leftards do this for two reasons, the female leftards want to be raped by muslims ( this is similar to the mice that want to be eaten by cats disease http://www.nature.com/news/parasite-makes-mice-lose-fear-of-cats-permanently-1.13777) and the male leftards want to rape chicks but need rape to be wholesale so that they can do it themselves without being noticed. Basically leftards are uncultured animals that want to get back to the rule of the law of the jungle as soon as possible, this is why they gravitate towards the worst of the worst of human deviants and want to make them their new neighbours as soon as possible. Hmm, I dont know.  If you look at the amount of child molesters going to third world country for sex, and the royal commission into institutionalized child sex abuse.  People would be forgiven to think that Aussie male have a whole sale culture of not just rape, but child molestation. yet nothings said about the parents who sell their children for sex in these countries and the cultural acceptance of such.

ian appears very knowledgable on this aspect.

ian wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 12:46pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 11:57am: innocentbystander. wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:21pm: Uh oh, crazy leftards are going down the moral equivalency highway again  ;D , essentially what they are saying is that because they have found an example of the extremely rare white rapist we should forgive a wholesale black and muslim rape culture and introduce it into our society en masse. Leftards do this for two reasons, the female leftards want to be raped by muslims ( this is similar to the mice that want to be eaten by cats disease http://www.nature.com/news/parasite-makes-mice-lose-fear-of-cats-permanently-1.13777) and the male leftards want to rape chicks but need rape to be wholesale so that they can do it themselves without being noticed. Basically leftards are uncultured animals that want to get back to the rule of the law of the jungle as soon as possible, this is why they gravitate towards the worst of the worst of human deviants and want to make them their new neighbours as soon as possible. Hmm, I dont know.  If you look at the amount of child molesters going to third world country for sex, and the royal commission into institutionalized child sex abuse.  People would be forgiven to think that Aussie male have a whole sale culture of not just rape, but child molestation. yet nothings said about the parents who sell their children for sex in these countries and the cultural acceptance of such.

In many impoverished countries, the victims are often orphans, or street kids.  There is not cultural acceptance for parents who sells their children for sex, you will find that majority do so out of survival.   But ultimately, I hold the direct molesters as principal culprit responsible.  Because if its not a desperate girl in Cambodia, then it would be someone in Ukraine.   

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

There is no doubt that sentences in USA are racially based and that a black man would have got the 15 year maximum.

What bullshyte again

between you and Peccarhead and mothra ... I don't know who is worse.

It's about money not race.

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Gnads wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 12:56pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:54pm: There is no doubt that sentences in USA are racially based and that a black man would have got the 15 year maximum. What bullshyte again between you and Peccarhead and mothra ... I don't know who is worse. It's about money not race.

Gnads darling, please examine closely the meaning of the word "mandatory" in a dictionary. Hint: It doesn't mean an assignation for sex with another man.

http://elitedaily.com/news/veterans-suffering-ptsd-legal-marijuana/1513415/


Quote:

In 2011, a now 76-year old disabled veteran named Lee Carroll Brooker was arrested for growing three dozen marijuana plants in his home. Under Alabama state law, Brooker received a mandatory sentence of life in prison without parole, and the Supreme Court last month refused to hear an appeal arguing the sentence was cruel and unusual.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 1:06pm:

Quote: In 2011, a now 76-year old disabled veteran named Lee Carroll Brooker was arrested for growing three dozen marijuana plants in his home. Under Alabama state law, Brooker received a mandatory sentence of life in prison without parole, and the Supreme Court last month refused to hear an appeal arguing the sentence was cruel and unusual.

That's outrageous!

Surely there's more to it than that.

"Alabama law mandates that anyone with certain prior felony convictions be sentenced to life without parole for possessing more than 1 kilogram, or 2.2 pounds, of marijuana, regardless of intent to sell.

"Mr. Brooker had been convicted of armed robberies in Florida two decades earlier, for which he served 10 years." Outrageous Sentences

Ah.

tickleandrose wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 12:52pm:

ian wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 12:46pm: tickleandrose wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 11:57am: innocentbystander. wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:21pm: Uh oh, crazy leftards are going down the moral equivalency highway again  ;D , essentially what they are saying is that because they have found an example of the extremely rare white rapist we should forgive a wholesale black and muslim rape culture and introduce it into our society en masse. Leftards do this for two reasons, the female leftards want to be raped by muslims ( this is similar to the mice that want to be eaten by cats disease http://www.nature.com/news/parasite-makes-mice-lose-fear-of-cats-permanently-1.13777) and the male leftards want to rape chicks but need rape to be wholesale so that they can do it themselves without being noticed. Basically leftards are uncultured animals that want to get back to the rule of the law of the jungle as soon as possible, this is why they gravitate towards the worst of the worst of human deviants and want to make them their new neighbours as soon as possible. Hmm, I dont know.  If you look at the amount of child molesters going to third world country for sex, and the royal commission into institutionalized child sex abuse.  People would be forgiven to think that Aussie male have a whole sale culture of not just rape, but child molestation. yet nothings said about the parents who sell their children for sex in these countries and the cultural acceptance of such. In many impoverished countries, the victims are often orphans, or street kids.  There is not cultural acceptance for parents who sells their children for sex, you will find that majority do so out of survival.   But ultimately, I hold the direct molesters as principal culprit responsible.  Because if its not a desperate girl in Cambodia, then it would be someone in Ukraine.

The poverty excuse is nonsense, pedophilia is culturally acceptable in countries like Thailand etc.

ian wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 12:52pm: ian wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 12:46pm: tickleandrose wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 11:57am: innocentbystander. wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:21pm: Uh oh, crazy leftards are going down the moral equivalency highway again  ;D , essentially what they are saying is that because they have found an example of the extremely rare white rapist we should forgive a wholesale black and muslim rape culture and introduce it into our society en masse. Leftards do this for two reasons, the female leftards want to be raped by muslims ( this is similar to the mice that want to be eaten by cats disease http://www.nature.com/news/parasite-makes-mice-lose-fear-of-cats-permanently-1.13777) and the male leftards want to rape chicks but need rape to be wholesale so that they can do it themselves without being noticed. Basically leftards are uncultured animals that want to get back to the rule of the law of the jungle as soon as possible, this is why they gravitate towards the worst of the worst of human deviants and want to make them their new neighbours as soon as possible. Hmm, I dont know.  If you look at the amount of child molesters going to third world country for sex, and the royal commission into institutionalized child sex abuse.  People would be forgiven to think that Aussie male have a whole sale culture of not just rape, but child molestation. yet nothings said about the parents who sell their children for sex in these countries and the cultural acceptance of such. In many impoverished countries, the victims are often orphans, or street kids.  There is not cultural acceptance for parents who sells their children for sex, you will find that majority do so out of survival.   But ultimately, I hold the direct molesters as principal culprit responsible.  Because if its not a desperate girl in Cambodia, then it would be someone in Ukraine.    The poverty excuse is nonsense, pedophilia is culturally acceptable in countries like Thailand etc.

ian purports himself to be very knowledgeable about pedophilia in Asia. Please cite your sources ian. Is it you own experience?

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 1:06pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 12:56pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:54pm: There is no doubt that sentences in USA are racially based and that a black man would have got the 15 year maximum. What bullshyte again between you and Peccarhead and mothra ... I don't know who is worse. It's about money not race. Gnads darling, please examine closely the meaning of the word "mandatory" in a dictionary. Hint: It doesn't mean an assignation for sex with another man. http://elitedaily.com/news/veterans-suffering-ptsd-legal-marijuana/1513415/ Quote: In 2011, a now 76-year old disabled veteran named Lee Carroll Brooker was arrested for growing three dozen marijuana plants in his home. Under Alabama state law, Brooker received a mandatory sentence of life in prison without parole, and the Supreme Court last month refused to hear an appeal arguing the sentence was cruel and unusual.

Did I mention anything about sex with another man?

That was your spin.

My posting of the two was as a comparison to the monied family of the rapist got him a reduced sentence

yet old mate the veteran got canned ... mandatory or not.

And the fact that the Vet was white not black.

You made it a racial issue white vs black in sentencing throughout this thread.

It's bullshyte.

Gnads wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 2:04pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 1:06pm: Gnads wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 12:56pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:54pm: There is no doubt that sentences in USA are racially based and that a black man would have got the 15 year maximum. What bullshyte again between you and Peccarhead and mothra ... I don't know who is worse. It's about money not race. Gnads darling, please examine closely the meaning of the word "mandatory" in a dictionary. Hint: It doesn't mean an assignation for sex with another man. http://elitedaily.com/news/veterans-suffering-ptsd-legal-marijuana/1513415/ Quote: In 2011, a now 76-year old disabled veteran named Lee Carroll Brooker was arrested for growing three dozen marijuana plants in his home. Under Alabama state law, Brooker received a mandatory sentence of life in prison without parole, and the Supreme Court last month refused to hear an appeal arguing the sentence was cruel and unusual. Did I mention anything about sex with another man? That was your spin. My posting of the two was as a comparison to the monied family of the rapist got him a reduced sentence yet old mate the veteran got canned ... mandatory or not. And the fact that the Vet was white not black. You made it a racial issue white vs black in sentencing throughout this thread. It's bullshyte.

Gnads, you are omni-testicular. If somebody gifted you half a brain it would be lonely. You can't seem to muster the mental strength to consult a dictionary for the meaning of the word "mandatory".

ian wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 12:52pm: ian wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 12:46pm: tickleandrose wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 11:57am: innocentbystander. wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:21pm: Uh oh, crazy leftards are going down the moral equivalency highway again  ;D , essentially what they are saying is that because they have found an example of the extremely rare white rapist we should forgive a wholesale black and muslim rape culture and introduce it into our society en masse. Leftards do this for two reasons, the female leftards want to be raped by muslims ( this is similar to the mice that want to be eaten by cats disease http://www.nature.com/news/parasite-makes-mice-lose-fear-of-cats-permanently-1.13777) and the male leftards want to rape chicks but need rape to be wholesale so that they can do it themselves without being noticed. Basically leftards are uncultured animals that want to get back to the rule of the law of the jungle as soon as possible, this is why they gravitate towards the worst of the worst of human deviants and want to make them their new neighbours as soon as possible. Hmm, I dont know.  If you look at the amount of child molesters going to third world country for sex, and the royal commission into institutionalized child sex abuse.  People would be forgiven to think that Aussie male have a whole sale culture of not just rape, but child molestation. yet nothings said about the parents who sell their children for sex in these countries and the cultural acceptance of such. In many impoverished countries, the victims are often orphans, or street kids.  There is not cultural acceptance for parents who sells their children for sex, you will find that majority do so out of survival.   But ultimately, I hold the direct molesters as principal culprit responsible.  Because if its not a desperate girl in Cambodia, then it would be someone in Ukraine.    The poverty excuse is nonsense, pedophilia is culturally acceptable in countries like Thailand etc.

Just wait a second, in what way do you think pedophilia is accepted cultural practice in Thailand????  Have you seen the law in Thailand about pedophillia?

tickleandrose wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 3:16pm:

ian wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 1:16pm: tickleandrose wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 12:52pm: ian wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 12:46pm: tickleandrose wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 11:57am: innocentbystander. wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:21pm: Uh oh, crazy leftards are going down the moral equivalency highway again  ;D , essentially what they are saying is that because they have found an example of the extremely rare white rapist we should forgive a wholesale black and muslim rape culture and introduce it into our society en masse. Leftards do this for two reasons, the female leftards want to be raped by muslims ( this is similar to the mice that want to be eaten by cats disease http://www.nature.com/news/parasite-makes-mice-lose-fear-of-cats-permanently-1.13777) and the male leftards want to rape chicks but need rape to be wholesale so that they can do it themselves without being noticed. Basically leftards are uncultured animals that want to get back to the rule of the law of the jungle as soon as possible, this is why they gravitate towards the worst of the worst of human deviants and want to make them their new neighbours as soon as possible. Hmm, I dont know.  If you look at the amount of child molesters going to third world country for sex, and the royal commission into institutionalized child sex abuse.  People would be forgiven to think that Aussie male have a whole sale culture of not just rape, but child molestation. yet nothings said about the parents who sell their children for sex in these countries and the cultural acceptance of such. In many impoverished countries, the victims are often orphans, or street kids.  There is not cultural acceptance for parents who sells their children for sex, you will find that majority do so out of survival.   But ultimately, I hold the direct molesters as principal culprit responsible.  Because if its not a desperate girl in Cambodia, then it would be someone in Ukraine.    The poverty excuse is nonsense, pedophilia is culturally acceptable in countries like Thailand etc. Just wait a second, in what way do you think pedophilia is accepted cultural practice in Thailand????  Have you seen the law in Thailand about pedophillia?

Ian would not have seen that unless it was printed on a beer carton in large letters with pictures.

Gnads wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 12:56pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:54pm: There is no doubt that sentences in USA are racially based and that a black man would have got the 15 year maximum. What bullshyte again between you and Peccarhead and mothra ... I don't know who is worse. It's about money not race.

Very true but sometimes it seems race plays a factor

http://i1.wp.com/hiphopandpolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Screen-Shot-2014-04-16-at-6.29.55-AM.png

The one with red hair on the left, Catalina Clouser decided to get high and drove for 12 miles with her 2 month old baby on the roof of her car. By the time she realized her baby wasn’t in the car, it was too late.. The baby fell off and was found still in his car seat in the middle of busy freeway, fortunately unharmed. Clouser was just sentenced and got probation.

Meanwhile in the woman on the right Shanesha Taylor was homeless and trying to get her life on better footing. She had a job interview and could not get anyone to watch her kids ages 2 yrs and 6 months , so she left them in the car, with window open and went inside to do her job interview. This mom was arrested and charged with a felony, her kids were taken away. After over a year and media scrutiny she was sentenced to 18 years probation and supervised custody.

tickleandrose wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 12:52pm:

ian wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 12:46pm: tickleandrose wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 11:57am: innocentbystander. wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:21pm: Uh oh, crazy leftards are going down the moral equivalency highway again  ;D , essentially what they are saying is that because they have found an example of the extremely rare white rapist we should forgive a wholesale black and muslim rape culture and introduce it into our society en masse. Leftards do this for two reasons, the female leftards want to be raped by muslims ( this is similar to the mice that want to be eaten by cats disease http://www.nature.com/news/parasite-makes-mice-lose-fear-of-cats-permanently-1.13777) and the male leftards want to rape chicks but need rape to be wholesale so that they can do it themselves without being noticed. Basically leftards are uncultured animals that want to get back to the rule of the law of the jungle as soon as possible, this is why they gravitate towards the worst of the worst of human deviants and want to make them their new neighbours as soon as possible. Hmm, I dont know.  If you look at the amount of child molesters going to third world country for sex, and the royal commission into institutionalized child sex abuse.  People would be forgiven to think that Aussie male have a whole sale culture of not just rape, but child molestation. yet nothings said about the parents who sell their children for sex in these countries and the cultural acceptance of such. In many impoverished countries, the victims are often orphans, or street kids.  There is not cultural acceptance for parents who sells their children for sex, you will find that majority do so out of survival.   But ultimately, I hold the direct molesters as principal culprit responsible.  Because if its not a desperate girl in Cambodia, then it would be someone in Ukraine.

Spot on.

The demand is the problem, not the supply.

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 5:30pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 12:52pm: ian wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 12:46pm: tickleandrose wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 11:57am: innocentbystander. wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:21pm: Uh oh, crazy leftards are going down the moral equivalency highway again  ;D , essentially what they are saying is that because they have found an example of the extremely rare white rapist we should forgive a wholesale black and muslim rape culture and introduce it into our society en masse. Leftards do this for two reasons, the female leftards want to be raped by muslims ( this is similar to the mice that want to be eaten by cats disease http://www.nature.com/news/parasite-makes-mice-lose-fear-of-cats-permanently-1.13777) and the male leftards want to rape chicks but need rape to be wholesale so that they can do it themselves without being noticed. Basically leftards are uncultured animals that want to get back to the rule of the law of the jungle as soon as possible, this is why they gravitate towards the worst of the worst of human deviants and want to make them their new neighbours as soon as possible. Hmm, I dont know.  If you look at the amount of child molesters going to third world country for sex, and the royal commission into institutionalized child sex abuse.  People would be forgiven to think that Aussie male have a whole sale culture of not just rape, but child molestation. yet nothings said about the parents who sell their children for sex in these countries and the cultural acceptance of such. In many impoverished countries, the victims are often orphans, or street kids.  There is not cultural acceptance for parents who sells their children for sex, you will find that majority do so out of survival.   But ultimately, I hold the direct molesters as principal culprit responsible.  Because if its not a desperate girl in Cambodia, then it would be someone in Ukraine.    Spot on. The demand is the problem, not the supply.

Agreed. The market is the problem.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 2:45pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 2:04pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 1:06pm: Gnads wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 12:56pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:54pm: There is no doubt that sentences in USA are racially based and that a black man would have got the 15 year maximum. What bullshyte again between you and Peccarhead and mothra ... I don't know who is worse. It's about money not race. Gnads darling, please examine closely the meaning of the word "mandatory" in a dictionary. Hint: It doesn't mean an assignation for sex with another man. http://elitedaily.com/news/veterans-suffering-ptsd-legal-marijuana/1513415/ Quote: In 2011, a now 76-year old disabled veteran named Lee Carroll Brooker was arrested for growing three dozen marijuana plants in his home. Under Alabama state law, Brooker received a mandatory sentence of life in prison without parole, and the Supreme Court last month refused to hear an appeal arguing the sentence was cruel and unusual. Did I mention anything about sex with another man? That was your spin. My posting of the two was as a comparison to the monied family of the rapist got him a reduced sentence yet old mate the veteran got canned ... mandatory or not. And the fact that the Vet was white not black. You made it a racial issue white vs black in sentencing throughout this thread. It's bullshyte. Gnads, you are omni-testicular. If somebody gifted you half a brain it would be lonely. You can't seem to muster the mental strength to consult a dictionary for the meaning of the word "mandatory".

Law. permitting no option; not to be disregarded or modified: a mandatory clause.

Listen dipstick ... it matters little I've never seen a judge anywhere abide by that 100 %.

But if you think that it's OK that the old guy gets life & the rapist get 6 months or less

just to be pedantic regarding the meaning of the word "mandatory"

as a lame point scoring exercise

then your a bigger d1ckhead than you sound.

Gnads wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:38pm:

... Law. permitting no option; not to be disregarded or modified: a mandatory clause. Listen dipstick ... it matters little I've never seen a judge anywhere abide by that 100 %...

You are testiculating now Gnads.

Gnads still refuses to accept that in USA "mandatory" means that the judge has no discretion in sentencing.

He deserves a 'light' sentence - pour paraffin on the bastard, and LIGHT it.

Two people who provided references for the rapist are now regretting that decision and retracting.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/nation_world/20160609_ap_55fe39062b4d433f9c11a47b4d6eadf8.html

This is not an isolated incident- young ones do this a lot. It is disgusting and he wont realise the gravity of what he has done if the system wont even do the right thing- he will re offend

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:45pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 6:38pm: ... Law. permitting no option; not to be disregarded or modified: a mandatory clause. Listen dipstick ... it matters little I've never seen a judge anywhere abide by that 100 %... You are testiculating now Gnads. Gnads still refuses to accept that in USA "mandatory" means that the judge has no discretion in sentencing.

Yep I was right .... you are

"Poison Ivy League"  Elvis Presley


Hail to thee old ivy league
Poison ivy league
The ra-ra boys are sitting round the table tonight
The ra-ra boys have lots of plans in view
They're gonna have panty raids
And make their own lemonade
They'll live it up just like the big boys do

Poison ivy league, boys in that ivy league
Give me an itch, those sons of the rich
That poison ivy league

The ra-ra boys will go to bed so early tonight
Before exams they need a lot of rest
They gotta make good for dad
They gotta make good so bad
They'll even pay someone to take that test

Poison ivy league, boys in that ivy league
How can they flunk, they're so full of bunk
That poison ivy league

The ra-ra boys are being groomed for business some day
For better things to college they were sent
And you can bet they'll be the head of the company
As long as dear old daddy's president

Poison ivy league, boys in that ivy league
So loaded with cash, they give me a rash
That poison ivy league

So let it be told
I won't touch them with a ten foot pole
That poison Ivy league

                     

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 10^th, 2016 at 10:31am:

Two people who provided references for the rapist are now regretting that decision and retracting. http://www.philly.com/philly/news/nation_world/20160609_ap_55fe39062b4d433f9c11a47b4d6eadf8.html

I'll bet they are - the lynchmob no doubt turned up at their doors too.

... wrote on Jun 11^th, 2016 at 8:53am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 10th, 2016 at 10:31am: Two people who provided references for the rapist are now regretting that decision and retracting. http://www.philly.com/philly/news/nation_world/20160609_ap_55fe39062b4d433f9c11a47b4d6eadf8.html I'll bet they are - the lynchmob no doubt turned up at their doors too.

They came from your house?

Another US college boy jock convicted of rape of unconscious woman. In this case he served her up to three strangers.

This is his second offence.

What are they smoking?

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/16322616/brandon-vandenburg-former-vanderbilt-football-player-found-guilty-multiple-counts-rape-battery


Quote:

Brandon Vandenburg guilty on counts of rape, sexual battery A jury has convicted a former Vanderbilt football player on all counts after finding that he encouraged his teammates to rape an unconscious woman he had been dating. It took jurors a little more than four hours of deliberation Saturday before finding Brandon Vandenburg guilty on five counts of aggravated rape and two counts of aggravated sexual battery. In addition, he was convicted of one count of unlawful photography. Vandenburg's mother cried in the courtroom after the verdict was read. He appeared to be weeping as he was taken away. The verdict comes amid a furor over the six month sentence a former Stanford swimmer was given for sexually assaulting an unconscious woman. It also comes during an ongoing debate about sexual assaults on the nation's college campus and the conduct of student athletes. The lives of everyone involved have been ruined, Deputy District Attorney General Tom Thurman said of the case. He said he hoped the widespread publicity surrounding the Vanderbilt case would send a message. The jurors in the this case had to decide whether to hold Vandenburg, 23, criminally responsible for what teammates were accused of doing to the female student in a dorm room in June of 2013. His defense had maintained that he was drunk and should not be held responsible for what players he didn't even know did to the woman. Four former players were all charged in the case but only two were accused of raping and sexually assaulting the woman. Brandon Vandenburg's retrial came amid a furor over the six-month sentence a former Stanford swimmer was given for sexually assaulting an unconscious woman. George Walker/AP Photo Throughout the trial, Vandenberg was portrayed as a man who violated the female student's trust by plying her with alcohol and then encouraging teammates to sexually assault her. "He served her up to three strangers -- for whatever reason, it doesn't matter, is that he did it,'' Assistant District Attorney Jan Norman told jurors in closing arguments Saturday. Prosecutors told jurors that he passed out condoms to the other players, videoed the rape and sent footage to friends as it was happening. The defense had maintained that Vandenberg was a newly-arrived recruit to the Nashville school and had asked teammates outside the dorm to help him carry the unconscious woman into his room after he couldn't get her into her apartment. Vandenberg's lawyers told jurors the other players were on the woman as soon as they got her in the room. The trial featured graphic videos and photos that were taken from the players' cell phones. "The videos are disturbing,'' Albert Perez, one of Vandenberg's attorneys, told jurors in closing. "They make you mad, they make you sad.'' But Perez pointed out that the sex acts charged in the indictment were for things the other players did. The victim in the case, who was then a 21-year-old neuroscience major, testified that she had no memory of the event. She said Vandenburg would later tell her that she had gotten drunk and sick and he took care of her, and she was embarrassed as a result. Prosecutors have suggested that she was under the influence of a date-rape drug. Nashville Police became involved after Vanderbilt officials contacted them when security camera footage at the school showed players carrying an unconscious woman in a dorm room. Vandenburg and Cory Batey were convicted last year on multiple counts of aggravated rape and aggravated sexual battery. The verdicts, however, were thrown out after it was revealed that a juror had not disclosed that he had been a victim of statutory rape. Batey was convicted again in April. Both he and Vandenburg face a minimum sentence of 15 years in prison for aggravated rape with no possibility of parole.

Another tinted Muslim?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 19^th, 2016 at 3:58pm:

Another tinted Muslim?

Could be one of GordyL's Mexican rapists disguised as a college boy.

Another college boy gets off rape charges. It appears US college boys prefer their partner to be unconscious during rape.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/rape-charges-dropped-to-misdemeanor?utm_term=.cfz155Z5O#.ijrG22L2q

[quote]Two Rape Charges Against A Student Were Dropped To One Misdemeanor
Former Indiana University student John Enochs spent one day in jail and will serve one year probation after taking a plea deal that led to two separate rape charges being dropped to one misdemeanor charge.

John Enochs Monroe County Sheriff’s Office
A former Indiana University student who was charged with rape in in two separate cases was sentenced to one year probation after accepting a plea deal where both charges were dismissed due to lack of evidence, prosecutors said Monday.
John Enochs, 22, was charged with two counts of rape in September 2015 for two alleged incidents that occurred at fraternity events in 2015 and 2013. As part of the plea agreement, prosecutors said, he pleaded guilty to battery with moderate bodily injury and the rape charges were dismissed. The deal also stated that any jail time imposed would be suspended to probation.

Enochs spent one day in jail at the time of his arrest, the Monroe County Prosecuting Attorney’s office said.
Prosecutors explained the plea agreement Monday, saying that neither case “presented sufficient evidence to prove rape.”

In a statement provided to BuzzFeed News, the prosecutor’s office said that the case consisted of “a very unusual set of circumstances” because there were two unrelated accusations that were two years apart.

Delta Tau Delta fraternity house Twitter: @deltsiu1
In a statement to BuzzFeed News, Enochs’ attorney, Katharine Liell, said, “John Enochs did not rape anyone and he should never have been charged with these offenses.”

Liell’s statement said that “misconduct of the lead investigator who presented false and misleading evidence in her public probable cause affidavit — and failed to provide the Court with exculpatory evidence” led to Enochs being “charged with crimes he did not commit.” (Prosecutors declined to comment on the misconduct allegation.)
The statement said that Enochs admitted to “conduct in one instance” that the court determined to be misdemeanor.
“He is profoundly sorry for his lack of judgment and has apologized for his conduct,” the statement said. “Issues of alcohol and sexual misconduct are serious issues on college campuses across the country, but such issues are trivialized when law enforcement misrepresents the true facts and fails to investigate the allegations fully and fairly.”
Enochs was charged last September after a woman alleged that he raped her in a room at the Delta Tau Delta fraternity house during a party on April 11, 2015, IndyStar reported, citing court documents.
The woman reported that she and her friends were drinking at the fraternity when she left to find a bathroom, according to a probable cause affidavit. She then reported that she remembered being in a room with an unknown man who was having sex with her. The woman said she tried to push him off and told him no when she realized what was happening, the affidavit said. After her friends called the police, a rape exam was conducted on the woman.
Security footage from the fraternity house showed Enochs enter the room with the woman and showed her leaving 24 minutes later, Fox59 reported. She suffered a laceration to her genitals, according to medical officials. Enochs’ DNA was also found on her, the affidavit said.
Another woman had told authorities that Enochs allegedly raped her in October 2013 but she did not press charges against him at the time. After hearing about the alleged assault in April, she helped investigators. The woman said that she was allegedly raped by Enochs in her residence before attending a Greek event off campus, the IndyStar reported. A friend of the woman told police that she saw someone she believed to be Enochs having sex with the woman who appeared to be passed out.
In their statement, Monday, the prosecutor’s office said that in the 2013 case, the woman had “no specific recollection of the events” and that witnesses could not recall “important details due to the passage of time and consumption of alcohol.”
The statement said that photographs “contradicted the assertion that the complaining witness was incapable of engaging in consensual activity shortly before the alleged assault.”

“This is important because the complaint was that she was ‘unaware’ that the sex was occurring due to her consumption of alcohol,” the prosecutor’s office said, adding that her decision to prosecute two years after the alleged incident, “severely hindered the investigation.”

There were “similar evidentiary problems” in the 2015 case, the prosecutor’s office said. Referring to the security footage at the fraternity house, prosecutors said that the video evidence of Enochs and the woman entering the room, and the woman leaving the room, “does not support the assertion of forcible rape.”

“There is also DNA evidence that is problematic, and made it impossible for us to prove that the defendant was the cause of her injury,” the statement said.

Under the law, a jury considering one case would not be allowed to know about the other, the prosecutor’s office said. “After the case(s) was filed, evidence continued to be developed that lead us to the conclusion that neither case, standing alone, presented sufficient eviden