Truthful debate is slurred into silence by the Left

ONE of the tactics of political correctness is to brand anyone expressing mainstream views as a bigot.

This allows the accuser to claim the high moral ground while smearing his opponent with the sins of racial, gender and sexual discrimination.

In Australian politics it is no longer possible to speak truthfully about Left-generated issues such as domestic ­violence, asylum seekers and genderless school programs without experiencing a politically correct bigotry slur (with the apt abbreviation PCBS).

Yet the interesting thing about PCBS is its in-built boomerang.

Invariably, the people yelling ‘‘bigot’’ are themselves guilty of discrimination.

I’m not usually one to defend the Liberal senator Cory Bernardi, but he was the victim of an unwarranted smear when Bill Shorten labelled him a ‘‘homophobe’ for criticising the content of the Safe Schools program.

There are so many things wrong with Safe Schools that questioning its appropriateness is a legitimate matter of public interest.

And that’s all Bernardi did.

In private, Shorten might even agree with him, given that none of the Opposition Leader’s three children are enrolled at Safe Schools.

This is also true of the program’s chief sponsor, Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews. Between them, Shorten and Andrews have six children and they all attend non-Safe Schools.

The two Labor leaders ­happen to be inflicting classroom lessons involving breast-binding and penis-tucking on everyone’s kids ­except their own.

In defending Safe Schools, Andrews has said: “I get my advice on policy from the experts, not from bigots.”

This is a classic PCBS. And it has boomeranged badly.

Much of the literature underpinning the Safe Schools and Building Respectful ­Relationships programs is based on the notion of same-sex superiority.

In her book Feminist Practice And Poststructuralist Theory, for instance, Christine Weedon depicts heterosexual women as pathetically weak.

Only lesbians, who have avoided male indoctrination, can act collectively to overturn patriarchy and create a gender-fluid society.

Like most men, I love lesbians but not to the point of running down straight women.

There’s a nasty heterophobia in the new ‘‘ungendered” school curriculum, creating more prejudice than it actually solves.

Shorten and Andrews need to understand that the experts are the bigots.

Instead of blindly accepting whatever advice neo-Marxist academics place on their desks, our political leaders need to read the material and understand how ideological propaganda is being introduced into the nation’s classrooms.

Australia’s asylum seeker debate is also dominated by the PCBS.

If an objective observer visited Australia during this election campaign and studied the asylum seeker debate, he would conclude two things.

One: the Howard and Abbott governments stopped the boats and saved large numbers of people from drowning.

Two: the Rudd and Gillard governments lured many hundreds of boat people, mostly Muslims, to their death on the waters between Australia and Indonesia.

By this practical, evidence-based test, Labor implemented a pro-drownings policy for Muslims.

Yet remarkably, senior Labor MPs continue to label as racist anyone who disagrees with them on refugee policy — the ultimate PCBS.

The party’s smearer-in-chief has been Anthony Albanese, who has launched more allegations of bigotry over border protection than most of us have had hot lunches.

Most, but not all, have been ­directed at the Coalition.

For many years, Albanese’s favourite party trick in the House of Representatives was to interject “Sieg Heil!” on Liberal MPs speaking about refugees.

The voters have also copped a serve.

During an immigration debate in 2001, Albanese complained that parts of the Australian electorate had objected to the arrival of Vietnamese asylum seekers “on narrow, bigoted grounds”.

He railed against mandatory detention and the ongoing “vilification of refugees”, asking: “What sort of nation are we that in the year 2001 tolerates that in order to appeal to some rednecks in our society?”

Since the Tampa incident 15 years ago, Albanese has strongly supported Labor For Refugees, an elitist inner-city cell attacking suburban voters as “ignorant, racist and emotive”.

In August 2003, he told a conference at the University of Technology Sydney that: “Unless we acknowledge that there are some people who don’t actually like asylum seekers, not just John Howard, then we won’t be able to move forward.”

Five months later, at Labor’s National Conference, he said there would have been no refugee debate, “if they were Irish Catholics coming here on boats. No, it’s because they are Muslims.”

Prior to the 2015 national conference, Albanese urged the party “not to appeal to the darker side” of the electorate.

The question of race has consistently underpinned his attitude to border protection.

In his mind, if Australia was not such a racist nation, the boats could flow in large numbers and we could welcome many more asylum seekers.

If this is his record in public, imagine what Albo’s been saying in private.

In late 2001, during a barney in Canberra, he told me that the main barrier to ALP compassion for refugees was racism in Western Sydney.

Now, in the middle of an election campaign, he has denied making this statement, telling Radio 2GB he’s a cleanskin when it comes to “the idea that working-class people are racist”.

Cont'd...

Cont'd...

The evidence suggests otherwise.

The ALP and, more importantly, the doomed asylum seekers leaving Indonesia, would have been better off if Albo had simply said nothing about refugee policy.

Why does he still bother?

He doesn’t represent a welcoming community, given that his seat of Grayndler settles only 20 refugees per annum — compared to thousands in places such as Fairfield and Liverpool in Western Sydney. And his party’s weaker border protection during the Rudd-Gillard years resulted in more than 1200 asylum seekers dying.

You do the maths.

For every refugee coming to live in Albanese’s electorate during the six years of Labor government, 10 drowned at sea — a barbaric strike-rate.

Politically correct BS indeed.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/truthful-debate-is-slurred-into-silence-by-the-left/news-story/8a83010dc43dffa52e5bd6f13c1f0a37

I don't often agree with Mark Latham, but on this issue he hits the nail squarely on the head! Good onya, Mark. :)

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 12:25pm:

I don't often agree with Mark Latham, but on this issue he hits the nail squarely on the head! Good onya, Mark. :)

Theres a shock

Latham has been knocked back repeatedly by every media organisation in the country .. the only one left that will accept any of his work is the smellograp and that's only for as long as he continues to bash the left.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 12:25pm:

... the Howard and Abbott governments stopped the boats and saved large numbers of people from drowning.

Between 2000 and 2007, under the Coalition government, there were at least 746 asylum seeker deaths.

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President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

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Spot on!  :)

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

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Depends on what you say.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 12:37pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 12:34pm: http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae269/oldpom/12928322_810700135703294_3902135015298451278_n.jpg Depends on what you say.

For example. If we say we're against gay marriage, we're immediately shouted down as being homophobic. That couldn't be further from the truth in my case. I have gay friends and family who I treat no differently to my straight friends and family. I simply believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. If we had been created to procreate with either gender, we'd have been made with two sets of genitals. But we're not. If homosexuality were considered the norm, mankind would've gone the way of the dinosaurs thousands of years ago.

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 12:29pm:

Latham has been knocked back repeatedly by every media organisation in the country .. the only one left that will accept any of his work is the smellograp and that's only for as long as he continues to bash the left.

Spot on.

mothra wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 12:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 12:29pm: Latham has been knocked back repeatedly by every media organisation in the country .. the only one left that will accept any of his work is the smellograp and that's only for as long as he continues to bash the left. Spot on.

Sure, he gets knocked back but he occasionally gets it right, as he has done in this case.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 12:41pm:

I have gay friends and family who I treat no differently to my straight friends and family.

Followed immediately by ...


Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 12:41pm:

I simply believe that marriage is between a man and a woman.

::)

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 12:41pm: I have gay friends and family who I treat no differently to my straight friends and family. Followed immediately by ... Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 12:41pm: I simply believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. ::)

How is it any different from having right wing views while at the same time being married to someone who is strongly left-wing? You're a dope.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 12:41pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 12:37pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 12:34pm: http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae269/oldpom/12928322_810700135703294_3902135015298451278_n.jpg Depends on what you say. For example. If we say we're against gay marriage, we're immediately shouted down as being homophobic. That couldn't be further from the truth in my case. I have gay friends and family who I treat no differently to my straight friends and family. I simply believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. If we had been created to procreate with either gender, we'd have been made with two sets of genitals. But we're not. If homosexuality were considered the norm, mankind would've gone the way of the dinosaurs thousands of years ago.

This is how you legitimatize an argument . The voice of reason and tolerance our armpit  :)

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 12:41pm:

I have gay friends and family who I treat no differently to my straight friends and family.

Oh yes you do.

Here's the proof:


Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 12:41pm:

I simply believe that marriage is between a man and a woman.

Incredible   ::)

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 12:46pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 12:41pm: I have gay friends and family who I treat no differently to my straight friends and family. Oh yes you do. Here's the proof: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 12:41pm: I simply believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. Incredible   ::)

How do I treat them differently? I don't believe in gay marriage. But if it happens, would I refuse to attend a gay marriage involving my friends or family? Of course not. I wouldn't banish them from my life. You seem to believe that people are incapable of co-existing when they have differing points of view and your comments merely back up what Latham has said.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 12:41pm:

If we say we're against gay marriage, we're immediately shouted down as being homophobic. That couldn't be further from the truth in my case. I have gay friends and family who I treat no differently to my straight friends and family. I simply believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. If we had been created to procreate with either gender, we'd have been made with two sets of genitals. But we're not. If homosexuality were considered the norm, mankind would've gone the way of the dinosaurs thousands of years ago.

You start out talking about marriage, and then change the subject to procreation.

Try to remain focused.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 12:46pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 12:41pm: I have gay friends and family who I treat no differently to my straight friends and family. Oh yes you do. Here's the proof: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 12:41pm: I simply believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. Incredible   ::) How do I treat them differently?

Jesus Armpit, are you serious?

You regard straights as people who should be allowed to marry, while you view homosexuals as people who should not be allowed to marry.

That's the epitome of different treatment.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 12:46pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 12:41pm: I have gay friends and family who I treat no differently to my straight friends and family. Oh yes you do. Here's the proof: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 12:41pm: I simply believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. Incredible   ::) How do I treat them differently? I don't believe in gay marriage. But if it happens, would I refuse to attend a gay marriage involving my friends or family? Of course not. I wouldn't banish them from my life. You seem to believe that people are incapable of co-existing when they have differing points of view and your comments merely back up what Latham has said.

For what reason would you consider their union worth less than yours?

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 12:29pm:

Latham has been knocked back repeatedly by every media organisation in the country .. the only one left that will accept any of his work is the smellograp and that's only for as long as he continues to bash the left.

Latham should go and get a job and start paying taxes instead of consuming taxes from hardworking tax payers !!

Honestly is this the value we get from these lay-about former politicians ??

Also  talking about norms implies abnormal.

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The two Labor leaders ­happen to be inflicting classroom lessons involving breast-binding and penis-tucking on everyone’s kids ­except their own.

Just what all primary school kids really need to know   :o

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 12:36pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 12:34pm: http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae269/oldpom/12928322_810700135703294_3902135015298451278_n.jpg Spot on!  :)

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mothra wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 12:54pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 12:48pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 12:46pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 12:41pm: I have gay friends and family who I treat no differently to my straight friends and family. Oh yes you do. Here's the proof: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 12:41pm: I simply believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. Incredible   ::) How do I treat them differently? I don't believe in gay marriage. But if it happens, would I refuse to attend a gay marriage involving my friends or family? Of course not. I wouldn't banish them from my life. You seem to believe that people are incapable of co-existing when they have differing points of view and your comments merely back up what Latham has said. For what reason would you consider their union worth less than yours?

Armpit won't tell you why he treats them differently, because he doesn't believe that he does.

Incredible   ::)

It's not incredible at any level.
I have many gay friends, none of whom want this same sex marriage crap or need it.  They tell me its just a noisy minority within the community, they like their lives as they are.
They say its just something LW progs have latched onto and they have no problem accepting that Marriage is a heterosexual tradition as it has always been.

Grendel wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 5:17pm:

It's not incredible at any level. I have many gay friends, none of whom want this same sex marriage crap or need it.  They tell me its just a noisy minority within the community, they like their lives as they are. They say its just something LW progs have latched onto and they have no problem accepting that Marriage is a heterosexual tradition as it has always been.

Some of my best friends are Aboriginal.

Grendel wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 5:17pm:

It's not incredible at any level. I have many gay friends, none of whom want this same sex marriage crap or need it.  They tell me its just a noisy minority within the community, they like their lives as they are. They say its just something LW progs have latched onto and they have no problem accepting that Marriage is a heterosexual tradition as it has always been.

You coming out of cupboard when plebiscite gets over the line ?

mothra wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 5:29pm:

Some of my best friends are Aboriginal.

Are they gaily married?

lee wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 5:46pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 5:29pm: Some of my best friends are Aboriginal. Are they gaily married?

Nope, there is no special/extra ::) payment for Aboriginal Gays, yet.  ;D

Neferti wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 5:49pm:

lee wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 5:46pm: mothra wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 5:29pm: Some of my best friends are Aboriginal. Are they gaily married? Nope, there is no special/extra ::) payment for Aboriginal Gays, yet.  ;D

Black Lesbian In A Wheelchair from a Foreign Land Where They Don' Spik Anglesh - that's four shoulder stripes in the Navy these days.... on AA alone... ask BigVic....  certainly a great start in Customs....

Black Orchid wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 1:08pm:

Quote: The two Labor leaders ­happen to be inflicting classroom lessons involving breast-binding and penis-tucking on everyone’s kids ­except their own. Just what all primary school kids really need to know   :o

Don't forget the nip and tuck.... or the implant..... I'm not leaving my body to medicine - they might use the ol' fella to set up three or four lesbians with an average d1ck..... not boasting mind... oh.. sorry - that was transgender female to males......  too noisy in here.... too many people shouting at the top of their voices over too little.... gargling in the rat race choir....

Latham said....


Quote:

In Australian politics it is no longer possible to speak truthfully about Left-generated issues such as domestic ­violence, asylum seekers and genderless school programs without experiencing a politically correct bigotry slur (with the apt abbreviation PCBS).

The right often speak out over these issues but who is to say their opinions are mainstream or the truth???

People can have their opinions but will be opposed and labelled for them on both sides of the debate....I fail to see why Latham believes his views should not be challenged!!!

::) ::) ::)

philperth2010 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 6:12pm:

Latham said.... Quote: In Australian politics it is no longer possible to speak truthfully about Left-generated issues such as domestic ­violence, asylum seekers and genderless school programs without experiencing a politically correct bigotry slur (with the apt abbreviation PCBS). The right often speak out over these issues but who is to say their opinions are mainstream or the truth??? People can have their opinions but will be opposed and labelled for them on both sides of the debate....I fail to see why Latham believes his views should not be challenged!!! ::) ::) ::)

I dunno phil it was the Libs that were anti open borders and they got called everything I am only talking on here....I know I coped it left right and centre...the left wanted them  assessed here right or wrong...they thought we were evil...

you name it we were called it..

a few still do....

unless you have been abused like that then you wouldnt notice it...maybe you even thought like they did..

however I am still against open borders....so all the name calling didnt do any good

philperth2010 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 6:12pm:

Latham said.... Quote: In Australian politics it is no longer possible to speak truthfully about Left-generated issues such as domestic ­violence, asylum seekers and genderless school programs without experiencing a politically correct bigotry slur (with the apt abbreviation PCBS). The right often speak out over these issues but who is to say their opinions are mainstream or the truth??? People can have their opinions but will be opposed and labelled for them on both sides of the debate....I fail to see why Latham believes his views should not be challenged!!! ::) ::) ::)

he's not just talking about himself phil.

Neferti wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 5:49pm:

lee wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 5:46pm: mothra wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 5:29pm: Some of my best friends are Aboriginal. Are they gaily married? Nope, there is no special/extra ::) payment for Aboriginal Gays, yet.  ;D

how can you be sure nef????>...

all that money goes somewhere.

Grendel wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 6:18pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 6:12pm: Latham said.... Quote: In Australian politics it is no longer possible to speak truthfully about Left-generated issues such as domestic ­violence, asylum seekers and genderless school programs without experiencing a politically correct bigotry slur (with the apt abbreviation PCBS). The right often speak out over these issues but who is to say their opinions are mainstream or the truth??? People can have their opinions but will be opposed and labelled for them on both sides of the debate....I fail to see why Latham believes his views should not be challenged!!! ::) ::) ::) he's not just talking about himself phil.

Really???

;) ;) ;)

cods wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 6:18pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 6:12pm: Latham said.... Quote: In Australian politics it is no longer possible to speak truthfully about Left-generated issues such as domestic ­violence, asylum seekers and genderless school programs without experiencing a politically correct bigotry slur (with the apt abbreviation PCBS). The right often speak out over these issues but who is to say their opinions are mainstream or the truth??? People can have their opinions but will be opposed and labelled for them on both sides of the debate....I fail to see why Latham believes his views should not be challenged!!! ::) ::) ::) I dunno phil it was the Libs that were anti open borders and they got called everything I am only talking on here....I know I coped it left right and centre...the left wanted them  assessed here right or wrong...they thought we were evil... you name it we were called it.. a few still do.... unless you have been abused like that then you wouldnt notice it...maybe you even thought like they did.. however I am still against open borders....so all the name calling didnt do any good

The issues Latham used as examples are not right or left issues, they are social issues....It is how the different political ideologies address these issues that is the difference....People can have their opinions but must expect them to be challenged....Latham believes people cannot speak truthfully about these issues for fear of being labelled....Has that ever stopped him???

:-? :-? :-? 

After about 4 attempts I finally worked my way through that pile of waffle, I am not sure that he said anything of substance.