No one is immune to the effects of climate change. Even the richies with all of their wealth cannot avoid it !!


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Sydney's wild weather: Worst storm in 40 years swallows pools, up to 1000 evacuated from their homes and the city's transport system in chaos     Savage storm with 125km/h winds and 12 metres waves slammed the NSW east coast on Sunday     150 millimetres of rain was dumped in Sydney in 24 hours and residents in the northern beaches were hardest hit     Over 5000 calls were made to SES, 30,000 houses were without power and 1000 were evacuated from their homes      In Narrabeen and Collaroy, beachfront properties collapsed into the ocean after waves reaches six metres overnight     Resident Zaza Silk was devastated after her swimming pool was destroyed, saying it was like an 'earthquake'     Sydney can expect another 100 millimetres of rainfall on Monday and the storm moves south to Tasmania

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3625866/Sydney-s-wild-weather-pushes-homes-edge-gardens-beaches-disappear-water.html

Already covered in another topic.

sir Nail,

it's explained here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yegKl2nKBQI

Mansions? The houses on that stretch of Collaroy are pretty ordinary.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 7:53pm:

Already covered in another topic.

What are those houses worth now ? That storm would have knocked off a few million in value. Nobody is going to touch them with a barge pole ;)

GordyL wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 8:01pm:

Mansions? The houses on that stretch of Collaroy are pretty ordinary.

Well they certainly are now ;)

The collapse of these houses has nothing to do with stormy weather so much as criminal negligence on behalf of the people who built them on such poor foundations.

Heads should roll.

I remember some of those houses & apartment blocks being built on the northern beaches decades ago and wondering a) were they crazy b) how did they get building permission.
King tides happen every year and the beaches get eroded. It's a disaster certain to happen one day.
Nothing to do with climate change, it's just weather cycles.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 8:04pm:

The collapse of these houses has nothing to do with stormy weather so much as criminal negligence on behalf of the people who built them on such poor foundations. Heads should roll.

Plus.....they built them too close to the ocean.

I mean duh!

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 8:05pm:

I remember some of those houses & apartment blocks being built on the northern beaches decades ago and wondering a) were they crazy b) how did they get building permission. King tides happen every year and the beaches get eroded. It's a disaster certain to happen one day. Nothing to do with climate change, it's just weather cycles.

Yep.

You'd have to be totally stupid if you couldn't see the risk from the get go.

It's just like that wading knee deep in NT croc infested waters at night incident.....STUPID!

Take look at the mega-piles in California.

The whole state is liable to slide into the sea one day.

"As long as it's not in my lifetime".

;D ;D ;D

Same as in Sydney.

One of these days!

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 8:06pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 8:04pm: The collapse of these houses has nothing to do with stormy weather so much as criminal negligence on behalf of the people who built them on such poor foundations. Heads should roll. Plus.....they built them too close to the ocean. I mean duh!

and the more closer to the ocean they are the higher their value until they finally get swept away which is when their value plummets !! Make hay while the sun shines ;)

Can't wait to see malcolms joint end up in the drink :D LOL

Heads should roll.

For a start - the council that approved the plans.

Concrete reinforced with rebar meshing should have been sunk deep into the ground to bedrock as the foundation piers for the housing to sit on.

Councillors must have taken 'kick-back' money in brown envelopes from the builders who did these jobs. There's no other explanation for this criminal neglect.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 8:04pm:

The collapse of these houses has nothing to do with stormy weather so much as criminal negligence on behalf of the people who built them on such poor foundations. Heads should roll.

Technically the Council should be to blame.  Firstly,  for approving buildings so close to the cliff face and secondly, in lieu of approving the development, for not building a sea wall to  minimise potential damage.

This was just bad luck that a huge storm coincided with the biggest tide if the year.
Most oceanfront property in Sydney is on sandstone.  Not many like this.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 8:10pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 8:06pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 8:04pm: The collapse of these houses has nothing to do with stormy weather so much as criminal negligence on behalf of the people who built them on such poor foundations. Heads should roll. Plus.....they built them too close to the ocean. I mean duh! and the more closer to the ocean they are the higher their value until they finally get swept away which is when their value plummets !! Make hay while the sun shines ;)

Billy Joel said it best :

I've lived long enough to have learned
The closer you get to the fire the more you get burned....

Anyway, I've no sympathy for fools who ought to know better.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 8:16pm:

Heads should roll. For a start - the council that approved the plans.

Yes.

They’re free to move to Granville. We welcome all types here, even Canadian Yids.

Big Donger wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 8:30pm:

They’re free to move to Granville. We welcome all types here, even Canadian Yids.

Smart yids live  up the hill. But hang in there Fatima, in a few hundred thousand years your muztard ghetto will be waterfront.

Black Orchid wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 8:17pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 8:04pm: The collapse of these houses has nothing to do with stormy weather so much as criminal negligence on behalf of the people who built them on such poor foundations. Heads should roll. Technically the Council should be to blame.  Firstly,  for approving buildings so close to the cliff face and secondly, in lieu of approving the development, for not building a sea wall to  minimise potential damage.

Speaking of slippages ... remember the Thredbo disaster?

18 people lost their lives because of a leaking tap.

Over months and maybe years this leaking tap soaked the ground so that it no longer had any tension in it to give it traction - until eventually the whole side of the hill simply slipped away for having no more grip on itself.

A leaking tap or a leaking pipe - can't remember which.

Sucko you rich bastards!!

Tragic.. my heart bleeds for the insurance companies....

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 8:02pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 7:53pm: Already covered in another topic. What are those houses worth now ? That storm would have knocked off a few million in value. Nobody is going to touch them with a barge pole ;)

Bulldoze the lot as unsafe and turn it into a park for the people.....

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 6:52am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 8:02pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 7:53pm: Already covered in another topic. What are those houses worth now ? That storm would have knocked off a few million in value. Nobody is going to touch them with a barge pole ;) Bulldoze the lot as unsafe and turn it into a park for the people.....

The homes in question WERE WORTH AROUND 3 TO 4 MILLION A FEW DAYS AGO.

THEY'RE WORTH NOTHING NOW.

Why?

The LAND these homes sit on is STILL crumbling AWAY AS I TYPE THIS POST.

Re bulldozing, way too unsafe at this stage.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 7:44am:

THEY'RE WORTH NOTHING NOW.

they're still worth millions. And you pretend to be in real estate  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Many of the beachfront homes in Sydney's north — some of them on the verge of collapse after the severe storms — are not likely to be insured against damage from the sea, the Insurance Council of Australia says.

That will depend very much on the insurance policy that they've purchased," he said.

"Many insurers don't cover actions of the sea. It's a very common exclusion.

"Actions of the sea is generally not covered by most insurance policies."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-07/nsw-storm-cleanup-insurers-may-not-cover-sea-surge-damage/7483720

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 7:44am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 6:52am: Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 8:02pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 7:53pm: Already covered in another topic. What are those houses worth now ? That storm would have knocked off a few million in value. Nobody is going to touch them with a barge pole ;) Bulldoze the lot as unsafe and turn it into a park for the people..... The homes in question WERE WORTH AROUND 3 TO 4 MILLION A FEW DAYS AGO. THEY'RE WORTH NOTHING NOW. Why? The LAND these homes sit on is STILL crumbling AWAY AS I TYPE THIS POST. Re bulldozing, way too unsafe at this stage.

Been speaking to a few experts about this incident.

Govt will need to step in and secure the shoreline so as to ensure public safety.

Duty of care etc.

Whatever land remains after it stops moving will be a no go zone while lawyers work out who pays for what.

The residents in question will no doubt sue the Local Council. Why? They've got nothing to lose. And they can't sue their insurer. Why? This event will be considered an exclusion.

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 7:45am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 7:44am: THEY'RE WORTH NOTHING NOW. they're still worth millions. And you pretend to be in real estate  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Get outta here, unemployed bogan troll.

Go get a job and pay some taxes you lazy grub!

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 7:56am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 7:45am: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 7:44am: THEY'RE WORTH NOTHING NOW. they're still worth millions. And you pretend to be in real estate  ;D ;D ;D ;D Get outta here, unemployed bogan troll. Go get a job and pay some taxes you lazy grub!

only one of us is unemployed lisa, and I'll give you three guesses as to who that is :D :D

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 8:02pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 7:53pm: Already covered in another topic. What are those houses worth now ? That storm would have knocked off a few million in value. Nobody is going to touch them with a barge pole ;)

wow I bet it made your day watching those homes get washed out to sea.. >:( >:(

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 7:45am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 7:44am: THEY'RE WORTH NOTHING NOW. they're still worth millions. And you pretend to be in real estate  ;D ;D ;D ;D

I cant see that.......the land has almost gone....and if it doesnt this time round it will the next..

I was amazed to hear where that lady ZaZa only bought the house 3 years ago...lets face it if ytou are waiting for councils to build wall that would never have stopped that rage.. then basically you are asking for trouble........they also said many were not insured for that type of damage....... at the end of the day.. councils have to accept some responsibility that lad shouild never be built on.. when you think of all the pipes that have to be built underground and then I saw that whopping great pool...what sort of hole would that need????....we have to accept it all unstabalises the land...

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 7:52am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 7:44am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 6:52am: Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 8:02pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 7:53pm: Already covered in another topic. What are those houses worth now ? That storm would have knocked off a few million in value. Nobody is going to touch them with a barge pole ;) Bulldoze the lot as unsafe and turn it into a park for the people..... The homes in question WERE WORTH AROUND 3 TO 4 MILLION A FEW DAYS AGO. THEY'RE WORTH NOTHING NOW. Why? The LAND these homes sit on is STILL crumbling AWAY AS I TYPE THIS POST. Re bulldozing, way too unsafe at this stage. Been speaking to a few experts about this incident. Govt will need to step in and secure the shoreline so as to ensure public safety. Duty of care etc. Whatever land remains after it stops moving will be a no go zone while lawyers work out who pays for what. The residents in question will no doubt sue the Local Council. Why? They've got nothing to lose. And they can't sue their insurer. Why? This event will be considered an exclusion.

Just trying to find the topic amongst Smith's trolling.

cods wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 8:02am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 7:45am: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 7:44am: THEY'RE WORTH NOTHING NOW. they're still worth millions. And you pretend to be in real estate  ;D ;D ;D ;D I cant see that.......the land has almost gone....and if it doesnt this time round it will the next.. I was amazed to hear where that lady ZaZa only bought the house 3 years ago...lets face it if ytou are waiting for councils to build wall that would never have stopped that rage.. then basically you are asking for trouble........they also said many were not insured for that type of damage....... at the end of the day.. councils have to accept some responsibility that lad shouild never be built on.. when you think of all the pipes that have to be built underground and then I saw that whopping great pool...what sort of hole would that need????....we have to accept it all unstabalises the land...

Had a $16m house up on Palm Beach wash away a third of it's block one year about 5 or 6 yrs ago .... they sold the same house 3 yrs later , still without 1/3rd of it's block for $14 million ( house prices on the GC crashed that year).

This isn't the first time waterfront homes have been damaged. They'll make repairs, and this time next year everyone would have forgotten it.

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 8:11am:

cods wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 8:02am: John Smith wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 7:45am: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 7:44am: THEY'RE WORTH NOTHING NOW. they're still worth millions. And you pretend to be in real estate  ;D ;D ;D ;D I cant see that.......the land has almost gone....and if it doesnt this time round it will the next.. I was amazed to hear where that lady ZaZa only bought the house 3 years ago...lets face it if ytou are waiting for councils to build wall that would never have stopped that rage.. then basically you are asking for trouble........they also said many were not insured for that type of damage....... at the end of the day.. councils have to accept some responsibility that lad shouild never be built on.. when you think of all the pipes that have to be built underground and then I saw that whopping great pool...what sort of hole would that need????....we have to accept it all unstabalises the land... Had a $16m house up on Palm Beach wash away a third of it's block one year about 5 or 6 yrs ago .... they sold the same house 3 yrs later , still without 1/3rd of it's block for $14 million ( house prices on the GC crashed that year). This isn't the first time waterfront homes have been damaged. They'll make repairs, and this time next year everyone would have forgotten it.

;D ;D ;D

See this unemployed bogan troll's post?

It can be summed up as TOTAL IRRELEVANT IGNORANT RUBBISH!

At least this troll is consistent. ;D

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 8:11am:

cods wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 8:02am: John Smith wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 7:45am: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 7:44am: THEY'RE WORTH NOTHING NOW. they're still worth millions. And you pretend to be in real estate  ;D ;D ;D ;D I cant see that.......the land has almost gone....and if it doesnt this time round it will the next.. I was amazed to hear where that lady ZaZa only bought the house 3 years ago...lets face it if ytou are waiting for councils to build wall that would never have stopped that rage.. then basically you are asking for trouble........they also said many were not insured for that type of damage....... at the end of the day.. councils have to accept some responsibility that lad shouild never be built on.. when you think of all the pipes that have to be built underground and then I saw that whopping great pool...what sort of hole would that need????....we have to accept it all unstabalises the land... Had a $16m house up on Palm Beach wash away a third of it's block one year about 5 or 6 yrs ago .... they sold the same house 3 yrs later , still without 1/3rd of it's block for $14 million ( house prices on the GC crashed that year). This isn't the first time waterfront homes have been damaged. They'll make repairs, and this time next year everyone would have forgotten it.

its a bit hard to miss a coastline being washed away.....its a natural occurrence.. its what I would expect if I had a house perched on a cliff....

if people are prepared to take that risk dont complain thats all I can say...... so now when they have a telethon to raise money for them.. I wont contribute as you say they are still getting millions...

cods wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 7:57am:

wow I bet it made your day watching those homes get washed out to sea.. >:( >:(

;D ;D ;D

Guess why the movie 'Titanic' was such a box-office success?  :P

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 8:23am:

cods wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 7:57am: wow I bet it made your day watching those homes get washed out to sea.. >:( >:( ;D ;D ;D Guess why the movie 'Titanic' was such a box-office success?  :P

well I dont know too many people who enjoy seeing a beautiful ocean liner sink......but rusty sure enjoys seeing people he thinks are rich because they own their own home...sink into a void. >:( >:(

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 8:23am:

cods wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 7:57am: wow I bet it made your day watching those homes get washed out to sea.. >:( >:( ;D ;D ;D Guess why the movie 'Titanic' was such a box-office success?  :P

Stop it Herbo!

This is a serious topic. Well it is a serious topic IF you ignore Smith's nonsensical trolling :P

cods wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 8:23am:

its a bit hard to miss a coastline being washed away.....its a natural occurrence.. its what I would expect if I had a house perched on a cliff....

it won't be ... Some of the sand will wash back, the rest council will pump back. The waterfront homes attract the highest rates and councils usually look after their cash cows

cods wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 8:25am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 8:23am: cods wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 7:57am: wow I bet it made your day watching those homes get washed out to sea.. >:( >:( ;D ;D ;D Guess why the movie 'Titanic' was such a box-office success?  :P well I dont know too many people who enjoy seeing a beautiful ocean liner sink......but rusty sure enjoys seeing people he thinks are rich because they own their own home...sink into a void. >:( >:(

Unfortunately, Herbo has seen Smith's trolling and thought he'd join in!

Herbo should know better.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 8:25am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 8:23am: cods wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 7:57am: wow I bet it made your day watching those homes get washed out to sea.. >:( >:( ;D ;D ;D Guess why the movie 'Titanic' was such a box-office success?  :P Stop it Herbo! This is a serious topic. Well it is a serious topic IF you ignore Smith's nonsensical trolling :P

My property is insured to the hilt, and so if a tornado should lift it off its foundations and carry it all the way to Colorado I would make a motsa out of my claim against the insurance company.

I have it insured for a lot more than it's worth ... if youse get my drift ... wink wink nudge nudge ..  ;) .. I'm thinking of paying an owner / driver truckie to have an 'accident' that has his truck veer off the road and plough into my house like a Wrecking-Ball ...  ;) .. if youse get my drift ...  ;)

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 8:03am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 7:52am: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 7:44am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 6:52am: Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 8:02pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 7:53pm: Already covered in another topic. What are those houses worth now ? That storm would have knocked off a few million in value. Nobody is going to touch them with a barge pole ;) Bulldoze the lot as unsafe and turn it into a park for the people..... The homes in question WERE WORTH AROUND 3 TO 4 MILLION A FEW DAYS AGO. THEY'RE WORTH NOTHING NOW. Why? The LAND these homes sit on is STILL crumbling AWAY AS I TYPE THIS POST. Re bulldozing, way too unsafe at this stage. Been speaking to a few experts about this incident. Govt will need to step in and secure the shoreline so as to ensure public safety. Duty of care etc. Whatever land remains after it stops moving will be a no go zone while lawyers work out who pays for what. The residents in question will no doubt sue the Local Council. Why? They've got nothing to lose. And they can't sue their insurer. Why? This event will be considered an exclusion. Just trying to find the topic amongst Smith's trolling.

NEWS JUST IN ( IE FACTS )

1. 5 MORE METRES OF LAND WAS LOST OVERNIGHT.

2. LAND IS STILL BEING LOST.

3. ACTUAL ROOMS WITHIN HOUSES ARE FALLING INTO THE OCEAN.

4. REPORTERS HAVE BEEN EVACUATED AWAY FROM THE SCENE.

Couple of points I thought interesting:

Apparently most home insurance does not cover damage by the sea.

Also apparently a proposal was floated to build a concrete boardwalk along that Collaroy Beach area like you see on lots of other beaches, apparently it was rejected as the residents didnt want it, would spoil their views and bogans like Herbo would be walking along there perving with shitting dogs etc. Anyway I realise that the boardwalk (concretewalk) may have only partially helped protect the homes but it would have saved some I am sure.

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 8:45am:

Couple of points I thought interesting: Apparently most home insurance does not cover damage by the sea. Also apparently a proposal was floated to build a concrete boardwalk along that Collaroy Beach area like you see on lots of other beaches, apparently it was rejected as the residents didnt want it, would spoil their views and bogans like Herbo would be walking along there perving with shitting dogs etc. Anyway I realise that the boardwalk (concretewalk) may have only partially helped protect the homes but it would have saved some I am sure.

::)

cods wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 8:25am:

well I dont know too many people who enjoy seeing a beautiful ocean liner sink......but rusty sure enjoys seeing people he thinks are rich because they own their own home...sink into a void. >:( >:(

Trust me - the owners of these investment properties have been praying for this to happen so they could collect on the insurance.

.. wink wink nudge nudge ..  ;)

It was all pre-planned as an investment that would 'come good' in a few short years from which they would benefit to the tune of millions from the insurance companies ..  ;) ..

The owners have probably long since retired back to Greece or Italy - or even to China, and are at this very moment getting drunk on Chianti, Ouzo, or Rice wine.

It was all planned ..  ;) ..

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 8:52am:

cods wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 8:25am: well I dont know too many people who enjoy seeing a beautiful ocean liner sink......but rusty sure enjoys seeing people he thinks are rich because they own their own home...sink into a void. >:( >:( Trust me - the owners of these investment homes have been praying for this to happen so they could collect on the insurance. .. wink wink nudge nudge ..  ;) It was all pre-planned as an investment that would 'come good' in a few short years from which they would benefit to the tune of millions from the insurance companies ..  ;) .. The owners have probably long since retired back to Greece or Italy - or even to China, and are at this very moment getting drunk on Chianti, Ouzo, or Rice wine. It was all planned ..  ;) ..

Huh?

Cods....he's baiting you with all that cr@p.

Don't fall for it.

Meantime...Herbo! Sit!

Don't cry for me Argentina ....  ;) ... it was all planned, codsey-baby. Put your tissues away ..  ;) ....

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 8:55am:

Huh? Cods....he's baiting you with all that cr@p. Don't fall for it. Meantime...Herbo! Sit!

..  ;) .. It's all money-in-the-bank ...  ;) ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTiAEtPhfGc

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 8:36am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 8:25am: Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 8:23am: cods wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 7:57am: wow I bet it made your day watching those homes get washed out to sea.. >:( >:( ;D ;D ;D Guess why the movie 'Titanic' was such a box-office success?  :P Stop it Herbo! This is a serious topic. Well it is a serious topic IF you ignore Smith's nonsensical trolling :P My property is insured to the hilt, and so if a tornado should lift it off its foundations and carry it all the way to Colorado I would make a motsa out of my claim against the insurance company. I have it insured for a lot more than it's worth ... if youse get my drift ... wink wink nudge nudge ..  ;) .. I'm thinking of paying an owner / driver truckie to have an 'accident' that has his truck veer off the road and plough into my house like a Wrecking-Ball ...  ;) .. if youse get my drift ...  ;)

OMG! You clearly don't have any home insurance.

You've just posted utter rubbish.

TIP :

GOOGLE ANY AUST. HOME INSURANCE POLICY.

Then come back and apologise to us ALL for having to read your nonsensical dribble.

>:(

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 8:49am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 8:45am: Couple of points I thought interesting: Apparently most home insurance does not cover damage by the sea. Also apparently a proposal was floated to build a concrete boardwalk along that Collaroy Beach area like you see on lots of other beaches, apparently it was rejected as the residents didnt want it, would spoil their views and bogans like Herbo would be walking along there perving with shitting dogs etc. Anyway I realise that the boardwalk (concretewalk) may have only partially helped protect the homes but it would have saved some I am sure. ::)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Well I do live in an elevated hilly position with views Lisa, not some dump in the lower suburbs, sea damage and flood damage dont come into the equation. Perhaps I should check on Hurricanes!

;D ;D ;D ;D

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 9:00am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 8:49am: Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 8:45am: Couple of points I thought interesting: Apparently most home insurance does not cover damage by the sea. Also apparently a proposal was floated to build a concrete boardwalk along that Collaroy Beach area like you see on lots of other beaches, apparently it was rejected as the residents didnt want it, would spoil their views and bogans like Herbo would be walking along there perving with shitting dogs etc. Anyway I realise that the boardwalk (concretewalk) may have only partially helped protect the homes but it would have saved some I am sure. ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Well I do live in an elevated hilly position with views Lisa, not some dump in the lower suburbs, sea damage and flood damage dont come into the equation. Perhaps I should check on Hurricans! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yeah...you do that.

Google HURRICANS.

Let us know what they are and if they're on sale at the supermarket this week.  ;D

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 9:02am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 9:00am: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 8:49am: Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 8:45am: Couple of points I thought interesting: Apparently most home insurance does not cover damage by the sea. Also apparently a proposal was floated to build a concrete boardwalk along that Collaroy Beach area like you see on lots of other beaches, apparently it was rejected as the residents didnt want it, would spoil their views and bogans like Herbo would be walking along there perving with shitting dogs etc. Anyway I realise that the boardwalk (concretewalk) may have only partially helped protect the homes but it would have saved some I am sure. ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Well I do live in an elevated hilly position with views Lisa, not some dump in the lower suburbs, sea damage and flood damage dont come into the equation. Perhaps I should check on Hurricans! ;D ;D ;D ;D Yeah...you do that. Google HURRICANS. Let us know what they are and if they're on sale at the supermarket this week.  ;D

Check the corrected version Lisa.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 9:11am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 9:02am: Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 9:00am: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 8:49am: Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 8:45am: Couple of points I thought interesting: Apparently most home insurance does not cover damage by the sea. Also apparently a proposal was floated to build a concrete boardwalk along that Collaroy Beach area like you see on lots of other beaches, apparently it was rejected as the residents didnt want it, would spoil their views and bogans like Herbo would be walking along there perving with shitting dogs etc. Anyway I realise that the boardwalk (concretewalk) may have only partially helped protect the homes but it would have saved some I am sure. ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Well I do live in an elevated hilly position with views Lisa, not some dump in the lower suburbs, sea damage and flood damage dont come into the equation. Perhaps I should check on Hurricans! ;D ;D ;D ;D Yeah...you do that. Google HURRICANS. Let us know what they are and if they're on sale at the supermarket this week.  ;D Check the corrected version Lisa.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Oh ok... was too busy laughing at the many nongs online today.

You gotta admit,  OzPol is hilariously funny these days.

I've never lauged this hard in ages.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 8:02pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 7:53pm: Already covered in another topic. What are those houses worth now ? That storm would have knocked off a few million in value. Nobody is going to touch them with a barge pole ;)

You gloating prick!

Why would anybody get satisfaction from the misfortune of others?

....  ;) ....


Ooooopah!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ....  ;) ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfQ3PAzSJPk

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 9:22am:

....  ;) .... Ooooopah!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ....  ;) ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfQ3PAzSJPk

Herbo! Sit!

Sheesh, we already know you're a closet Greek.  ::)

There's not the slightest chance that the owners of those properties didn't know this was on the cards and highly likely to happen within a very few years. They themselves could see with their own eyes the ongoing erosion just metres away in front of their properties.

No sympathy from me whatsoever. I don't sympathise with culpable stupidity. They bought those properties for prestige reasons without giving the practicalities any serious consideration. Egos trumped commonsense.

And they did absolutely nothing about it.

There are simple means of using reinforced concrete to give stability to the ground facing the sea. Not rocket science, and relatively inexpensive. 

If they couldn't afford the insurance on those places - then they should never have bought those properties, and if they couldn't find an insurance company willing to insure against sea-damage, then that in itself should have alerted them to the fact that these properties were on Death Row and shouldn't be bought.

Those seafronts have been crumbling into the sea since Captain Cook arrived, and it was always a case of Buyer Beware for anyone stupid enough to buy those houses.

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 9:15am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 8:02pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 7:53pm: Already covered in another topic. What are those houses worth now ? That storm would have knocked off a few million in value. Nobody is going to touch them with a barge pole ;) You gloating prick! Why would anybody get satisfaction from the misfortune of others?

its pretty sad isnt it....you can feel his enjoyment cant you?....a few years agi S.A. was having the same trouble he was over the moon...I can never figure that out..

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 9:45am:

There's not the slightest chance that the owners of those properties didn't know this was on the cards and highly likely to happen within a very few years. They themselves could see with their own eyes the ongoing erosion just metres away in front of their properties. No sympathy from me whatsoever. I don't sympathise with culpable stupidity. They bought those properties for prestige reasons, without giving the practicalities any serious consideration. Ego trumped commonsense. And they did absolutely nothing about it. There are simple means of using reinforced concrete to give stability to the ground facing the sea. Not rocket science, and relatively inexpensive.  If they couldn't afford the insurance on those places - then they should never have bought those properties, and if they couldn't find an insurance company willing to insure against sea-damage, then that in itself should have alerted them to the fact that these properties were on Death Row and shouldn't be bought. Those seafronts have been crumbling into the sea since Captain Cook arrived, and it was always a case of Buyer Beware for anyone stupid enough to buy those houses.

Thank you Captain Obvious.

Now, have you googled ANY AUST. HOME INSURANCE POLICY YET?

Best you do that BEFORE you post again.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 9:45am:

There's not the slightest chance that the owners of those properties didn't know this was on the cards and highly likely to happen within a very few years. They themselves could see with their own eyes the ongoing erosion just metres away in front of their properties. No sympathy from me whatsoever. I don't sympathise with culpable stupidity. They bought those properties for prestige reasons, without giving the practicalities any serious consideration. Egos trumped commonsense. And they did absolutely nothing about it. There are simple means of using reinforced concrete to give stability to the ground facing the sea. Not rocket science, and relatively inexpensive.  If they couldn't afford the insurance on those places - then they should never have bought those properties, and if they couldn't find an insurance company willing to insure against sea-damage, then that in itself should have alerted them to the fact that these properties were on Death Row and shouldn't be bought. Those seafronts have been crumbling into the sea since Captain Cook arrived, and it was always a case of Buyer Beware for anyone stupid enough to buy those houses.

herb did you see that massive pool some idiot had put in imagine the size of the hole they had to dig for it...

banish people putting in pools for starters... it would undermine any land there ...., and tell them to stop whingeing..

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 9:31am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 9:22am: ....  ;) .... Ooooopah!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ....  ;) ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfQ3PAzSJPk Herbo! Sit! Sheesh, we already know you're a closet Greek.  ::)

I've had my fair share of Ouzo I have to admit.

:(
Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 9:50am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 9:31am: Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 9:22am: ....  ;) .... Ooooopah!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ....  ;) ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfQ3PAzSJPk Herbo! Sit! Sheesh, we already know you're a closet Greek.  ::) I've had my fair share of Ouzo I have to admit.

Duh!  ::)

I'm onto you.

I KNOW YOU ARE A CLOSET GREEK.

....WHICH MEANS YOU'RE PROBABLY A CLOSET ITALIAN TOO.

SUBJECT CLOSED

I am now subsiding into an ocean of boredom ....

Talk amongst yourselves if you must, but I'm out of here.

I feel sorry for the residents of Collaroy but I think it's a big stretch, them saying that the Council should have built a sea wall to protect them years ago.

These people pay out millions to live up close and personal with the beach. Then they expect the rate payers to spend millions to protect them  for when mother nature has its way.

It's a bit like me saying I should have a Fire Station at the bottom of my street  for when bush fires hit the Blue Mountains.

You live close to nature, you roll the dice.

red baron wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 10:44am:

I feel sorry for the residents of Collaroy but I think it's a big stretch, them saying that the Council should have built a sea wall to protect them years ago. These people pay out millions to live up close and personal with the beach. Then they expect the rate payers to spend millions to protect them  for when mother nature has its way. It's a bit like me saying I should have a Fire Station at the bottom of my street  for when bush fires hit the Blue Mountains. You live close to nature, you roll the dice.

I am sure I heard they rejected the idea of a sea wall walkway in front of their houses.

I am appalled at denizens like Herbert and Lisa rejoicing at the misery of those who have had their houses damaged.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 10:50am:

I am appalled at denizens like Herbert and Lisa rejoicing at the misery of those who have had their houses damaged.

I'm more apalled that you cannot read AND comprehend what's been posted in this topic.

Then again....at least you're consistent.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 10:50am:

I am appalled at denizens like Herbert and Lisa rejoicing at the misery of those who have had their houses damaged.

Yeah, like you give a rat's ass.

red baron wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 10:44am:

It's a bit like me saying I should have a Fire Station at the bottom of my street  for when bush fires hit the Blue Mountains. You live close to nature, you roll the dice.

Aren't there remnants of an ancient beach at the foot of the Blue Mountains?

Perhaps one day residents will have ocean views again.

red baron wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 10:44am:

I feel sorry for the residents of Collaroy but I think it's a big stretch, them saying that the Council should have built a sea wall to protect them years ago. These people pay out millions to live up close and personal with the beach. Then they expect the rate payers to spend millions to protect them  for when mother nature has its way. It's a bit like me saying I should have a Fire Station at the bottom of my street  for when bush fires hit the Blue Mountains. You live close to nature, you roll the dice.

That doesn't mean to say you should be happy about the situation.

issuevoter wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 11:29am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 10:50am: I am appalled at denizens like Herbert and Lisa rejoicing at the misery of those who have had their houses damaged. Yeah, like you give a rat's ass.

If I needed a rat's arse I would acquire it from the source; Issuevoter.

Black Orchid wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 11:36am:

red baron wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 10:44am: It's a bit like me saying I should have a Fire Station at the bottom of my street  for when bush fires hit the Blue Mountains. You live close to nature, you roll the dice. Aren't there remnants of an ancient beach at the foot of the Blue Mountains? Perhaps one day residents will have ocean views again.

There are shells there from huge tsunamis which are thought to sweep up to the foot of the Blue Mountains every few hundred years or so from the shifting of tectonic plates in the South Pacific.   

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 10:52am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 10:50am: I am appalled at denizens like Herbert and Lisa rejoicing at the misery of those who have had their houses damaged. I'm more apalled that you cannot read AND comprehend what's been posted in this topic. Then again....at least you're consistent.

Please explain how I could possibly comprehend if I cannot read as you spuriously and maliciously contend.

No longer content with soiled clothing, the washerwoman shrew now indulges in brain washing.

Lucas Heights is a suburb of Sydney where a row of houses sat at the top of a heavily wooded slope. Day after day the news was all about bush fires across NSW ...

... and then one day a fire swept up this hillside and destroyed all the houses there ...

... and then later in the week the news came through that most of the residents hadn't bothered to insure their homes against destruction by fire. I can still see the weeping wives on TV.

Bill Shorten says it's a woman's job to take care of their kids' care-taker arrangements, but he forgot to say it's a woman's responsibility to make sure the family home is fully insured with an insurance company ...

Women weep at home while their husbands are hard at work HOPING that their house-wife wives are taking care of filling out the insurance forms and posting them on their way to the Hairdressers and nail-trimming shops. 

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 11:36am: red baron wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 10:44am: It's a bit like me saying I should have a Fire Station at the bottom of my street  for when bush fires hit the Blue Mountains. You live close to nature, you roll the dice. Aren't there remnants of an ancient beach at the foot of the Blue Mountains? Perhaps one day residents will have ocean views again. There are shells there from huge tsunamis which are thought to sweep up to the foot of the Blue Mountains every few hundred years or so from the shifting of tectonic plates in the South Pacific.

There is also what appears to be an ancient sandy 'beach' there strewn with crushed and broken shells.

Black Orchid wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 12:44pm:

There is also what appears to be an ancient sandy 'beach' there strewn with crushed and broken shells.

I don't doubt it. The salt-pan dry lakes in the interior are testimony to the fact that the continent has been shifting vertically and horizontally over the millennia.

The same happened on the Gold Coast during Cyclone Dinah in Jan 1967 ...

then one a month there after til April


Quote:

28-30 January, 1967. CYCLONE DINAH. Severe damage at Heron Island then causing more destruction from Rockhampton to Grafton, NSW. Water knee deep in Hastings Street, Noosa from storm surge. 22 February, 1967. CYCLONE BARBARA. Wind damage from Coolangatta. Crossed at Lismore, NSW. 18 March, 1967. CYCLONE ELAINE. Moved past the south coast causing flooding at Logan and Brisbane with considerable beach erosion in other areas. 2-4 April, 1967. CYCLONE GLENDA. Off shore of Brisbane. 16 metre waves near Gold Coast. 6 dead.

Then 3 on the trot in 1974...


Quote:

24 January, 1974. CYCLONE WANDA. Over the coast near Maryborough, it then caused significant flooding in Brisbane where 6007 homes were flooded. 13 people drowned and others died from heart attacks. The cost was $200 million (at 1974 value). 6 February, 1974. CYCLONE PAM. Intense cyclone passed 500km to the east of Brisbane. Severe flooding and evacuation at Palm Beach. 13 March, 1974. CYCLONE ZOE. Crossed the coast at Coolangatta then went back to sea. Floods in Brisbane with evacuations at Murwillumbah and Lismore, NSW.

It also occurred in 2000 and 2009.

It's what you can expect .... you may get to pay more for you beach side block & views than you wanted to ...

the sea shows no mercy.

Collaroy and Balmoral took a beating a few years ago, from what I can remember.  I would have moved out after that.

I've lived right on the ocean and don't find it calming at all.  I prefer serenity.

Severe Storms on the east coast of Australia  -  1770 - 2008

http://www.goldcoast.qld.gov.au/documents/bf/storms-east-coast-1770-2008.pdf

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 9:45am:

There's not the slightest chance that the owners of those properties didn't know this was on the cards and highly likely to happen within a very few years. They themselves could see with their own eyes the ongoing erosion just metres away in front of their properties. No sympathy from me whatsoever. I don't sympathise with culpable stupidity. They bought those properties for prestige reasons without giving the practicalities any serious consideration. Egos trumped commonsense. And they did absolutely nothing about it. There are simple means of using reinforced concrete to give stability to the ground facing the sea. Not rocket science, and relatively inexpensive.  If they couldn't afford the insurance on those places - then they should never have bought those properties, and if they couldn't find an insurance company willing to insure against sea-damage, then that in itself should have alerted them to the fact that these properties were on Death Row and shouldn't be bought. Those seafronts have been crumbling into the sea since Captain Cook arrived, and it was always a case of Buyer Beware for anyone stupid enough to buy those houses.

Who makes the money from these ocean front lucrative properties?
Who allows it?
If insurances won't insure these places because of a high risk factor, and if insurance companies know something...
.... then all the following that make their money from it, must surely know...but are keeping a blindfold on... (for obvious reasons).
a. council
b. builders
c. stamps duty office
d. and of course, real estate agents
....yet, with all the so called 'soil testing' etc. and by the looks of those collapsed back yards, there isn't enough stabilization of rocks/concrete to stop the pounding of the ocean deteriorating the sand/soil.
Why is not some type of 'risk assessment' being conducted, every so often?

I totally blame council, for allowing sub divisions of land, and buildings to be erected, so close to the open ocean!
How can council sit back and not have any responsibility with what happened?
Perhaps councils should have insurance companies teach them something about what is obvious?

What would you do? Sue council? Surely, something has to come back to bite them on the bum?

I am so disgusted with councils for their disregard of what would have disastrous consequences for say, new people coming to live in an estate....and I give this as an example...


Rockhampton. It's just one area known to have major floods (just go ask the council for a copy of the 100 year flood map).....and the last one was no exception (was it 2011?)
This is how common sense hits me (back in the mid 2000's), (and yet the shire knew this area would flood)....on the way to Mt. Archer, I see a old Queenslander home, on flat plains, on huge wooden stumps, about 12 feet high or more!
Must have been an old banana or sugar plantation, as there was a lot of subdivision going on around nearby, with modern single story brick homes being built on concrete slabs.
I recall seeing that old Queenslander home and thought
"Gee, the flood waters must rise very high here"
and then, see those low houses being built, and I thought, no way I would buy a house there. I was so puzzled, why it was being done.

Well, you guess which were worst effected in the last huge flood they just had? Yep, those new homes, only the point of their roofs were above the flood water line. ::)

Why do they do that? (Shire office/councils) Is it for the money? Do builders entice them with that stupid decision also?

Sophia wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 9:45am: There's not the slightest chance that the owners of those properties didn't know this was on the cards and highly likely to happen within a very few years. They themselves could see with their own eyes the ongoing erosion just metres away in front of their properties. No sympathy from me whatsoever. I don't sympathise with culpable stupidity. They bought those properties for prestige reasons without giving the practicalities any serious consideration. Egos trumped commonsense. And they did absolutely nothing about it. There are simple means of using reinforced concrete to give stability to the ground facing the sea. Not rocket science, and relatively inexpensive.  If they couldn't afford the insurance on those places - then they should never have bought those properties, and if they couldn't find an insurance company willing to insure against sea-damage, then that in itself should have alerted them to the fact that these properties were on Death Row and shouldn't be bought. Those seafronts have been crumbling into the sea since Captain Cook arrived, and it was always a case of Buyer Beware for anyone stupid enough to buy those houses. Who makes the money from these ocean front lucrative properties? Who allows it? If insurances won't insure these places because of a high risk factor, and if insurance companies know something... .... then all the following that make their money from it, must surely know...but are keeping a blindfold on... (for obvious reasons). a. council b. builders c. stamps duty office d. and of course, real estate agents ....yet, with all the so called 'soil testing' etc. and by the looks of those collapsed back yards, there isn't enough stabilization of rocks/concrete to stop the pounding of the ocean deteriorating the sand/soil. Why is not some type of 'risk assessment' being conducted, every so often? I totally blame council, for allowing sub divisions of land, and buildings to be erected, so close to the open ocean! How can council sit back and not have any responsibility with what happened? Perhaps councils should have insurance companies teach them something about what is obvious? What would you do? Sue council? Surely, something has to come back to bite them on the bum? I am so disgusted with councils for their disregard of what would have disastrous consequences for say, new people coming to live in an estate....and I give this as an example... Rockhampton. It's just one area known to have major floods (just go ask the council for a copy of the 100 year flood map).....and the last one was no exception (was it 2011?) This is how common sense hits me (back in the mid 2000's), (and yet the shire knew this area would flood)....on the way to Mt. Archer, I see a old Queenslander home, on flat plains, on huge wooden stumps, about 12 feet high or more! Must have been an old banana or sugar plantation, as there was a lot of subdivision going on around nearby, with modern single story brick homes being built on concrete slabs. I recall seeing that old Queenslander home and thought "Gee, the flood waters must rise very high here" and then, see those low houses being built, and I thought, no way I would buy a house there. I was so puzzled, why it was being done. Well, you guess which were worst effected in the last huge flood they just had? Yep, those new homes, only the point of their roofs were above the flood water line. ::) Why do they do that? (Shire office/councils) Is it for the money? Do builders entice them with that stupid decision also?

there is only so much a council can do..

if people want to take the risk  its no different to those who want to live like Tarzan and Jane in the bush.. keeping every tree some even build the house round a tree.... then wonder why they lose it in a bush fire.. which is part of this continent...charm...

it wont happen to me..

if isurance companies refuse to take your money or charge a fortune  to take  the risk.. that would tell me an awful lot...

if anyone knows anything its the insurance industry,,,,,,councils are only interested in the rates they can charge for water frontage or a view...

cods wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 10:25pm:

there is only so much a council can do.. if people want to take the risk  its no different to those who want to live like Tarzan and Jane in the bush.. keeping every tree some even build the house round a tree.... then wonder why they lose it in a bush fire.. which is part of this continent...charm... it wont happen to me.. if isurance companies refuse to take your money or charge a fortune  to take  the risk.. that would tell me an awful lot... if anyone knows anything its the insurance industry,,,,,,councils are only interested in the rates they can charge for water frontage or a view...

Councils have more say in matters than that, if you need a pool, you need a permit, and having a pool right there, near the edge where the ocean is......digging down, making the soil more unstable to give way  :-? :o
Maybe our council is just stricter, because, they take into account 'land slip' and no matter how hard you fight, or spend money to build a house, they will not let you (taken from some locals experience)...something not done for those NSW properties that gave way recently.
Land slip......something very noteworthy, especially near the open ocean!

As far as insurance companies go, with a rental we bought in a certain area in Queensland, that has periodic flooding, but only parts of the town goes under.....we deliberately bought a house out of this 'flood zone'....and paid a bit more for that privilege.

With a certain insurance company we have been with for some years, they send this letter, they will not be renewing the insurance for our property due to the floods in the area.

Well, I had to debate this, I wrote, that we had studied the 100 year map for flood zones, and bought 'out of the flood zone', and never had any flood waters near the house.

I also wrote, that they should not tar every property with the same brush, as some are known to be in the flood area, and some are not.

Our house, is standing with no propblems, no insurance claims, etc.

They reviewed this, and accepted to keep insuring our property.

Still, it is down to the home buyer to "buyer beware".
Just to save a lot of heartache in the future.

I cannot help but shake my head at the people who lost their homes in that storm -- those parked on the shoreline. I would not laugh at stories about loss of life or injuries sustained. However, if you are going to build a home on the shore, at least get some protection from high tides.

all those houses are unsaleable now are they ?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 1:07am:

all those houses are unsaleable now are they ?

Well.... they are, for now. Unless you know someone rich who has a real problem with impulse buying.

News just in :

Another king tide hit the Nthern beaches overnight.

Homes/land continue to crumble away into the ocean.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 1:07am:

all those houses are unsaleable now are they ?

I bet the insurance companies will run away like rabbits.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 7:06am:

News just in : Another king tide hit the Nthern beaches overnight. Homes/land continue to crumble away into the ocean.

eeeeeeewwwwwwwwwww

Bobby. wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 7:26am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 8th, 2016 at 1:07am: all those houses are unsaleable now are they ? I bet the insurance companies will run away like rabbits.

What????

Insurance companies have exclusion clauses in their home policies for such events.

The Local Council IS IN THE FIRING LINE....BIG TIME!

8 houses on Sydney's Nthern Beaches are now badly damaged and most of the land they sit on has disappeared/still disappearing as I type.

The Greens/local residents in the area have been lobbying for ages with Council for the construction of a proper retaining wall after a few "near misses" in the recent past.

Bobby, just a quick question...do you watch the news at all?

Bobby. wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 7:26am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 8th, 2016 at 1:07am: all those houses are unsaleable now are they ? I bet the insurance companies will run away like rabbits.

I would imagine so.  I would .

Beachside houses - good to rent for a holiday ..........

Bobby. wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 7:26am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 8th, 2016 at 1:07am: all those houses are unsaleable now are they ? I bet the insurance companies will run away like rabbits.

I am thinking how much will my home insurance go up this year??????>. :( :( :( its us that always pay.

Should the community pay for people who ought to have the brains to know they are putting themselves at such risk? Especially when they must have a Bob or two to own a beach front house.

I don't think so.

Emergency handouts, subsidies and services should be reserved for those who get into trouble through accident and misfortune, not for those who deliberately go courting obvious danger.

But then I'm a cold heartless bastard.

According to WIN news last night the Collaroy residents protested against councils attempts to build a sea wall a few years ago. reckoned it would spoil the beach front aspect or something.  If this is the case these people have no one to blame but themselves for the damage to their homes.

Belgarion wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 9:09am:

According to WIN news last night the Collaroy residents protested against councils attempts to build a sea wall a few years ago. reckoned it would spoil the beach front aspect or something.  If this is the case these people have no one to blame but themselves for the damage to their homes.

Yes that has been mentioned a few times.

They didnt want yobbos (Herb) walking along the boardwalk in front of their houses

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 9:36am:

Yes that has been mentioned a few times. They didnt want yobbos (Herb and GordyL) walking along the boardwalk in front of their houses

What if Yobbos Herb and GordyL were on a leash?

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 7:52pm:

No one is immune to the effects of climate change. Even the richies with all of their wealth cannot avoid it !!

It is notable that just ONE of these houses carried solar panels
Apparently climate change is a joke - until it affects "me"

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 8:44am:

Should the community pay for people who ought to have the brains to know they are putting themselves at such risk? Especially when they must have a Bob or two to own a beach front house. I don't think so. Emergency handouts, subsidies and services should be reserved for those who get into trouble through accident and misfortune, not for those who deliberately go courting obvious danger. But then I'm a cold heartless bastard.

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buzzanddidj wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 9:48am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 7:52pm: No one is immune to the effects of climate change. Even the richies with all of their wealth cannot avoid it !! It is notable that just ONE of these houses carried solar panels Apparently climate change is a joke - until it affects "me"

How are storms related to the climate change religion, did storms like this occur before the climate change religion?

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 8:24am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 8th, 2016 at 7:26am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 8th, 2016 at 1:07am: all those houses are unsaleable now are they ? I bet the insurance companies will run away like rabbits. I am thinking how much will my home insurance go up this year??????>. :( :( :( its us that always pay.

Its been going up and up for a while now, approximately $100 per annum every time renewal policies are sent. Reason I get told by them is because of all the claims being made, and I say back to them, why should l/we be punished when we haven't claimed in years, in fact we should be rewarded as such. But no banana! I then hunt for a better deal and when one has numerous insurances, even as much as $30-50 each makes a difference of hundred$$$. My bro in law, recently got his home insurance, it went up by $400! How ridiculous, I rang that insurance company (BudgetDirect) and said that $100 rise is understandable, but $400???? Needless to say, I got him a different insurance policy with Aami for only $80 more than the previous year.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 11:18am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jun 8th, 2016 at 9:48am: Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 7:52pm: No one is immune to the effects of climate change. Even the richies with all of their wealth cannot avoid it !! It is notable that just ONE of these houses carried solar panels Apparently climate change is a joke - until it affects "me" How are storms related to the climate change religion, did storms like this occur before the climate change religion?

YES,  it seems like this sort of thing is the NORM - every second year


https://s.yimg.com/dh/ap/default/160605/E-collaroy.jpg

Black Orchid wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 2:29pm:

Collaroy and Balmoral took a beating a few years ago, from what I can remember.  I would have moved out after that. I've lived right on the ocean and don't find it calming at all.  I prefer serenity. Severe Storms on the east coast of Australia  -  1770 - 2008 http://www.goldcoast.qld.gov.au/documents/bf/storms-east-coast-1770-2008.pdf

Interesting map. Sydney is directly in a latitudinal line with the tip of New Zealand. I wonder if our temperatures differ. I'll have to look that up.

Sophia wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

Who makes the money from these ocean front lucrative properties? Who allows it?

On the news last night there was a gathering of journalists at one of these properties, and then the Ch7 reporter said .. "Ah .. the owner has just arrived".

Obviously the landlord.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 12:50am:

I cannot help but shake my head at the people who lost their homes in that storm -- those parked on the shoreline. I would not laugh at stories about loss of life or injuries sustained. However, if you are going to build a home on the shore, at least get some protection from high tides.

Have a look at where the waves have scoured away the sea-front to show nothing but wet sand under the front of the houses. No underpinning foundation pylons at all. I feel 100% sure this wasn't legal at the time those houses were built.

There's no way a council or independent Building Inspector would have given their approval to the plans. Zero.

Brown paper envelopes. Hush-money.
 

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 1:02pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 8th, 2016 at 12:50am: I cannot help but shake my head at the people who lost their homes in that storm -- those parked on the shoreline. I would not laugh at stories about loss of life or injuries sustained. However, if you are going to build a home on the shore, at least get some protection from high tides. Have a look at where the waves have scoured away the sea-front to show nothing but wet sand under the front of the houses. No underpinning foundation pylons at all. I feel 100% sure this wasn't legal at the time those house were built there. There's no way a council or independent Building Inspector would have given their approval to the plans. Zero. Brown paper envelopes. Hush-money.

I just looked at the size of that swimming pool some idiot had put in.. the size of the hole would have created a huge problem... I would think even just with normal rain running down would have destabalised that ground... I agree councils need to hold some responsibility for what they allow people to do..as far as i know an in ground pool need council permission...

it would damage the wall just putting in sewage pipes..all the way along..

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 1:14pm:

I just looked at the size of that swimming pool some idiot had put in.. the size of the hole would have created a huge problem... I would think even just with normal rain running down would have destabalised that ground... I agree councils need to hold some responsibility for what they allow people to do..as far as i know an in ground pool need council permission... it would damage the wall just putting in sewage pipes..all the way along..

I'm waiting to hear of a Class Action being arranged by these home-owners against the council, the planners, the Building Inspectors, the concreters, the building company, the builder's insurers, the subcontractors, the geologist, and a whole host of others.

Maybe even the local imam.  8-)

Heads should roll.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 2:03pm:

cods wrote on Jun 8th, 2016 at 1:14pm: I just looked at the size of that swimming pool some idiot had put in.. the size of the hole would have created a huge problem... I would think even just with normal rain running down would have destabalised that ground... I agree councils need to hold some responsibility for what they allow people to do..as far as i know an in ground pool need council permission... it would damage the wall just putting in sewage pipes..all the way along.. I'm waiting to hear of a Class Action being arranged by these home-owners against the council, the planners, the Building Inspectors, the concreters, the building company, the builder's insurers, the subcontractors, the geologist, and a whole host of others. Maybe even the local imam.  8-) Heads should roll.

Why would you build a pool when you have a beach in your backyard.

The Council wanted to build a seawall years ago they didn't after dim witted leftists protested.

The Council knew there was a problem and failed to act because dim wits protested, if they could find each and every one of these dim wits I would be happy for them to be sued otherwise I reckon the Council will wear it.

The Wendy Harmer story & the comments this morning are quite interesting

I read it on Google news.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 12:55pm:

Sophia wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 10:20pm: Who makes the money from these ocean front lucrative properties? Who allows it? On the news last night there was a gathering of journalists at one of these properties, and then the Ch7 reporter said .. "Ah .. the owner has just arrived". Obviously the landlord.

No!

Stop it!

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 1:02pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 8th, 2016 at 12:50am: I cannot help but shake my head at the people who lost their homes in that storm -- those parked on the shoreline. I would not laugh at stories about loss of life or injuries sustained. However, if you are going to build a home on the shore, at least get some protection from high tides. Have a look at where the waves have scoured away the sea-front to show nothing but wet sand under the front of the houses. No underpinning foundation pylons at all. I feel 100% sure this wasn't legal at the time those houses were built. There's no way a council or independent Building Inspector would have given their approval to the plans. Zero. Brown paper envelopes. Hush-money.

No!

Stop posting nonsense!

Please!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2y5jk9

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 1:02pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 8th, 2016 at 12:50am: I cannot help but shake my head at the people who lost their homes in that storm -- those parked on the shoreline. I would not laugh at stories about loss of life or injuries sustained. However, if you are going to build a home on the shore, at least get some protection from high tides. Have a look at where the waves have scoured away the sea-front to show nothing but wet sand under the front of the houses. No underpinning foundation pylons at all. I feel 100% sure this wasn't legal at the time those houses were built. There's no way a council or independent Building Inspector would have given their approval to the plans. Zero. Brown paper envelopes. Hush-money.

rubbish ... that was a raised house and verandah that someone later closed off. You can see the metal pole between the two wood frames put up purely to nail the cladding on. The metal pole would be the structural support for the house, not the timber frame.

buzzanddidj wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 9:48am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 7:52pm: No one is immune to the effects of climate change. Even the richies with all of their wealth cannot avoid it !! It is notable that just ONE of these houses carried solar panels Apparently climate change is a joke - until it affects "me"

I see where you are coming from, but there are often good reasons why solar panels can't be installed. Overshadowing from trees and nearby buildings or wrong orientation of the roof line for example.  When we lived in Sydney we attempted to get solar panels installed, but were told that due to the large number of trees near our home they would not be effective. The council would not let us remove or even trim back the trees because all mature trees were under a preservation order........very ironic.  ;)

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 2:11pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 8th, 2016 at 2:03pm: cods wrote on Jun 8th, 2016 at 1:14pm: I just looked at the size of that swimming pool some idiot had put in.. the size of the hole would have created a huge problem... I would think even just with normal rain running down would have destabalised that ground... I agree councils need to hold some responsibility for what they allow people to do..as far as i know an in ground pool need council permission... it would damage the wall just putting in sewage pipes..all the way along.. I'm waiting to hear of a Class Action being arranged by these home-owners against the council, the planners, the Building Inspectors, the concreters, the building company, the builder's insurers, the subcontractors, the geologist, and a whole host of others. Maybe even the local imam.  8-) Heads should roll. Why would you build a pool when you have a beach in your backyard. The Council wanted to build a seawall years ago they didn't after dim witted leftists protested. The Council knew there was a problem and failed to act because dim wits protested, if they could find each and every one of these dim wits I would be happy for them to be sued otherwise I reckon the Council will wear it.

I doubt it was dim wit leftists, but cashed up property owners doing the protesting against the sea wall.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 2:11pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 8th, 2016 at 2:03pm: cods wrote on Jun 8th, 2016 at 1:14pm: I just looked at the size of that swimming pool some idiot had put in.. the size of the hole would have created a huge problem... I would think even just with normal rain running down would have destabalised that ground... I agree councils need to hold some responsibility for what they allow people to do..as far as i know an in ground pool need council permission... it would damage the wall just putting in sewage pipes..all the way along.. I'm waiting to hear of a Class Action being arranged by these home-owners against the council, the planners, the Building Inspectors, the concreters, the building company, the builder's insurers, the subcontractors, the geologist, and a whole host of others. Maybe even the local imam.  8-) Heads should roll. Why would you build a pool when you have a beach in your backyard.

You can't be serious.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 2:11pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 8th, 2016 at 2:03pm: cods wrote on Jun 8th, 2016 at 1:14pm: I just looked at the size of that swimming pool some idiot had put in.. the size of the hole would have created a huge problem... I would think even just with normal rain running down would have destabalised that ground... I agree councils need to hold some responsibility for what they allow people to do..as far as i know an in ground pool need council permission... it would damage the wall just putting in sewage pipes..all the way along.. I'm waiting to hear of a Class Action being arranged by these home-owners against the council, the planners, the Building Inspectors, the concreters, the building company, the builder's insurers, the subcontractors, the geologist, and a whole host of others. Maybe even the local imam.  8-) Heads should roll. Why would you build a pool when you have a beach in your backyard. The Council wanted to build a seawall years ago they didn't after dim witted leftists protested. The Council knew there was a problem and failed to act because dim wits protested, if they could find each and every one of these dim wits I would be happy for them to be sued otherwise I reckon the Council will wear it.

The council was negligent on a number of causes.

Ratepayers will come up with the cash.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 8:04am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 8th, 2016 at 12:55pm: Sophia wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 10:20pm: Who makes the money from these ocean front lucrative properties? Who allows it? On the news last night there was a gathering of journalists at one of these properties, and then the Ch7 reporter said .. "Ah .. the owner has just arrived". Obviously the landlord. No! Stop it!

Herb, not even the landlord makes money, yeah, sure, getting rent money, paying tax as it's an income, and paying rates, and what would the exorbitant rates be there? So i forgot to add, the tax dept also get money from this/these (rented) property/ies. Now, the 'owner/s' being landlords or occupants, will make no money, not now.  Re: the opposition to a wall being put up, it should have been a lawful requirement and no such opposing a protective barrier, well, whoever opposed it is now liable.

Heads should roll ... enough of them to construct a wall against further erosion.