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A WOMAN has relived the horror of trying to save her best friend from the jaws of a monster Queensland crocodile in what is now assumed to be a fatal attack.

What a nong.

Was that suicide ?

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 7:46am:

Quote: A WOMAN has relived the horror of trying to save her best friend from the jaws of a monster Queensland crocodile in what is now assumed to be a fatal attack. What a nong. Was that suicide ?

Pure stupidity.

one of the residence hit the nail of on the head..

another stupid human being.. :( :(

She was waist deep water at the beach. Would be curious to know how many warning signs were on the beach.

Just further reinforces my opinion of FNQ as being a holiday in hell.

Can't swim in summer because of the jellies, can't swim any other time because of of the crocs. Can't walk thru the parks without being bashed by Abos.

There doesn't seem to be any way to explain it. One of the women lived in Cairns, so she would have been well aware of the dangers.

They had arrived at this destination in the daytime and therefore would have seen the danger notices all over the place.

Was it foul play with no croc involved? 10.30 at night with no witnesses on the beach at this holiday resort ....  ? Mighty suspicious. Did one kill the other somewhere else and then claim it was a croc? A love triangle with the deceased's husband?

No remains to be seen anywhere despite all-day searching from sea, air and land? Crocs usually 'save some for later' ...

I smell a rat here. It's all too impossibly insane that the Cairns woman wouldn't know it's a suicide note to go waist-deep in those waters late at night ...

I've been swimming at Port Douglas before. If you pick the beach you can go for a swim.

I got the impression from reports she was in some kind of backwater.

Probably pissed off her head.

freediver wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:23pm:

I've been swimming at Port Douglas before. If you pick the beach you can go for a swim. I got the impression from reports she was in some kind of backwater.

Do those 'safe' beaches have crocodile warning signs? - and if they do - then WHY did you risk getting rolled by a croc?

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:27pm:

Probably pissed off her head.

Like the swimmers at Port Douglas?  8-)

Lord Herbert wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:28pm:

freediver wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 2:23pm: I've been swimming at Port Douglas before. If you pick the beach you can go for a swim. I got the impression from reports she was in some kind of backwater. Do those 'safe' beaches have crocodile warning signs? - and if they do - then WHY did you risk getting rolled by a croc?

It's hard to tell because the tourists leave their towels hanging over the signs. It's the only way to keep the sand off.

freediver wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:56pm:

It's hard to tell because the tourists leave their towels hanging over the signs. It's the only way to keep the sand off.

Jesus!  ;D ;D ;D

That should be an indictable offence ... in fact I think it already is an indictable offence.

So okay - you didn't have crocs nibbling at your toes, but how about the irukanji?

Marla and other potential tourists beware! ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYTEOGPG3zg

It was in the off season. No irikanji. Plus I think the swell would make things difficult for a croc. I did check with the locals first. Mind you I was a bit nervous because the water was filthy. That's when the sharks come in.

freediver wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 3:36pm:

It was in the off season. No irikanji. Plus I think the swell would make things difficult for a croc. I did check with the locals first. Mind you I was a bit nervous because the water was filthy. That's when the sharks come in.

Never check with the locals - they'll tell you anything just for a private laugh. Always check with the ambos and the police - they are the ones who have to deal with the aftermath of a mauling or killing.

Also - pay for some local abos to form a circle around you in the water.  8-)

They were tourism employees. The last thing they want is a dead tourist. Even if he does still pay for his room.

Lord Herbert wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 3:48pm:

freediver wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 3:36pm: It was in the off season. No irikanji. Plus I think the swell would make things difficult for a croc. I did check with the locals first. Mind you I was a bit nervous because the water was filthy. That's when the sharks come in. Never check with the locals

I was about 19, at a beach party at Yorkys beach and wanted to get back to my camp site at Holloway beach. The locals just told me to walk along the beach.  Thanks Yirrganydji people

There really is only one road to Cape Tribulation and you would have to be blind to miss all the Croc Warnings signs.

When this story broke yesterday, I went to google which linked me to the brisbanetimes.com.au website. The story was text with a video of a news bulletin. So I clicked on the play button, and of course it went to a commercial first. It was Allianz Insurance and it kicked off with the old R and R song, See Ya Later, Alligator, in a while crocodile. Allianz would probably not want that to happen, but it shows you how bloody stupid the internet can be at times.

That's actually really clever. You were reading an article about crocodiles, so it played an ad with a reference to crocodiles, now you are posting on internet forums about Allianz insurance.

freediver wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:23pm:

I've been swimming at Port Douglas before. If you pick the beach you can go for a swim. I got the impression from reports she was in some kind of backwater.

yes, I am under the same impression, some sort of backwater.

I was up there a few years ago and we did not consider going near the water.

We need some video of these monsters ...


link

Lord Herbert wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 9:14pm:

We need some video of these monsters ... link

I saw that earlier today.

Amazing!

There's a video at the link you provided.

freediver wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 8:43pm:

That's actually really clever. You were reading an article about crocodiles, so it played an ad with a reference to crocodiles, now you are posting on internet forums about Allianz insurance.

I see your point, but if that is the case its not stupid, its indecent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P2qAj4hitg

We went on one of the 'croc spotting' tours on the daintree river.

Notice how little effort the croc puts in on this attack.

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 9:24pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P2qAj4hitg We went on one of the 'croc spotting' tours on the daintree river. Notice how little effort the croc puts in on this attack.

Did he die?

I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly.

mothra wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 9:32pm:

I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly.

Yeah.

Not sure how they kept filming.

mothra wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 9:32pm:

I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly.

Do you eat meat?

greggerypeccary wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 9:18pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:14pm: We need some video of these monsters ... link I saw that earlier today. Amazing! There's a video at the link you provided.

And they say a bigger one has been recorded in the records. What surprises me is how fast these dinosaurs move on land when they're going full pelt after something.  Almost as fast as a grizzly bear. Bloody awesome.

GordyL wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 9:36pm:

mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. Do you eat meat?

Nope.

mothra wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 9:37pm:

GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:36pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. Do you eat meat? Nope.

Do you feel that makes you morally superior to meat eaters?

mothra wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 9:32pm:

I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly.

I agree with you.

I watched one of those beheadings in detail - audio and all - but never again. I had PTS disorder for a week afterwards.

GordyL wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 9:39pm:

mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:37pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:36pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. Do you eat meat? Nope. Do you feel that makes you morally superior to meat eaters?

https://media.giphy.com/media/ffPjsPLnTCmxa/giphy.gif

greggerypeccary wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 9:40pm:

GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:39pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:37pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:36pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. Do you eat meat? Nope. Do you feel that makes you morally superior to meat eaters? https://media.giphy.com/media/ffPjsPLnTCmxa/giphy.gif

Is he eating pork rind? Numnum.

GordyL wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 9:39pm:

mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:37pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:36pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. Do you eat meat? Nope. Do you feel that makes you morally superior to meat eaters?

Why? Do you think I ought to?

You seem to be suggesting that I have an argument?

GordyL wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 9:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:40pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:39pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:37pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:36pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. Do you eat meat? Nope. Do you feel that makes you morally superior to meat eaters? https://media.giphy.com/media/ffPjsPLnTCmxa/giphy.gif Is he eating pork rind? Numnum.

Don't back down now, Gordy.

Continue your questioning of mothra.

This will be very entertaining.

I like seeing twats like you get humiliated in public forums.

So ...

mothra wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 9:48pm:

GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:39pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:37pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:36pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. Do you eat meat? Nope. Do you feel that makes you morally superior to meat eaters? Why? Do you think I ought to? You seem to be suggesting that I have an argument?

Just asking.  I've met vegans who look down on omnivores an vice verca.

greggerypeccary wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 9:48pm:

GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:47pm: greggerypeccary wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:40pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:39pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:37pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:36pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. Do you eat meat? Nope. Do you feel that makes you morally superior to meat eaters? https://media.giphy.com/media/ffPjsPLnTCmxa/giphy.gif Is he eating pork rind? Numnum. Don't back down now, Gordy. Continue your questioning of mothra. This will be very entertaining. I like seeing twats like you get humiliated in public forums. So ...

Go eat dick, Greggy

GordyL wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 9:58pm:

mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:48pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:39pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:37pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:36pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. Do you eat meat? Nope. Do you feel that makes you morally superior to meat eaters? Why? Do you think I ought to? You seem to be suggesting that I have an argument? Just asking.  I've met vegans who look down on omnivores an vice verca.

You didn't answer the question.

You seem to think I have some tried and tested arguments for considering myself to be "morally superior ".

What are they?

Let's discuss them.

mothra wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 9:48pm:

GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:39pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:37pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:36pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. Do you eat meat? Nope. Do you feel that makes you morally superior to meat eaters? Why? Do you think I ought to? You seem to be suggesting that I have an argument?

I've met so many arseholes like Gordy.

I was a vegetarian for about 20 years.

Whenever arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't eat meat, they'd immediately become defensive & aggressive, even though I never once suggested that they should stop eating meat themselves or that I was superior to them or healthier etc.

I never made a fuss about not eating meat, and never mentioned it until I was asked.

Still, once the arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't share their love of meat, they immediately went on the attack.

Yep, I know Gordy all too well.

greggerypeccary wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 10:04pm:

mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:48pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:39pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:37pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:36pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. Do you eat meat? Nope. Do you feel that makes you morally superior to meat eaters? Why? Do you think I ought to? You seem to be suggesting that I have an argument? I've met so many arseholes like Gordy. I was a vegetarian for about 20 years. Whenever arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't eat meat, they'd immediately become defensive & aggressive, even though I never once suggested that they should stop eating meat themselves or that I was superior to them or healthier etc. I never made a fuss about not eating meat, and never mentioned it until I was asked. Still, once the arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't share their love of meat, they immediately went on the attack. Yep, I know Gordy all too well.

Yeah but Gordy has arguments for why I'm morally superior.

I wonder what they are?

mothra wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 10:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:04pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:48pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:39pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:37pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:36pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. Do you eat meat? Nope. Do you feel that makes you morally superior to meat eaters? Why? Do you think I ought to? You seem to be suggesting that I have an argument? I've met so many arseholes like Gordy. I was a vegetarian for about 20 years. Whenever arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't eat meat, they'd immediately become defensive & aggressive, even though I never once suggested that they should stop eating meat themselves or that I was superior to them or healthier etc. I never made a fuss about not eating meat, and never mentioned it until I was asked. Still, once the arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't share their love of meat, they immediately went on the attack. Yep, I know Gordy all too well. Yeah but Gordy has arguments for why I'm morally superior. I wonder what they are?

Gordy has nothing.

He's an insecure arsehole.

Nothing more.

greggerypeccary wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 10:04pm:

mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:48pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:39pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:37pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:36pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. Do you eat meat? Nope. Do you feel that makes you morally superior to meat eaters? Why? Do you think I ought to? You seem to be suggesting that I have an argument? I've met so many arseholes like Gordy. I was a vegetarian for about 20 years. Whenever arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't eat meat, they'd immediately become defensive & aggressive, even though I never once suggested that they should stop eating meat themselves or that I was superior to them or healthier etc. I never made a fuss about not eating meat, and never mentioned it until I was asked. Still, once the arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't share their love of meat, they immediately went on the attack. Yep, I know Gordy all too well.

You claim to have been a vegetarian but eating penis invalidates that  :D Now settle petal,  I have no problems at all with vegies except the militant PETA types. When I meat those ones I play the role of the blood thirsty carnivore.

greggerypeccary wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 10:12pm:

mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:09pm: greggerypeccary wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:04pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:48pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:39pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:37pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:36pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. Do you eat meat? Nope. Do you feel that makes you morally superior to meat eaters? Why? Do you think I ought to? You seem to be suggesting that I have an argument? I've met so many arseholes like Gordy. I was a vegetarian for about 20 years. Whenever arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't eat meat, they'd immediately become defensive & aggressive, even though I never once suggested that they should stop eating meat themselves or that I was superior to them or healthier etc. I never made a fuss about not eating meat, and never mentioned it until I was asked. Still, once the arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't share their love of meat, they immediately went on the attack. Yep, I know Gordy all too well. Yeah but Gordy has arguments for why I'm morally superior. I wonder what they are? Gordy has nothing. He's an insecure arsehole. Nothing more.

See what I mean:

"You claim to have been a vegetarian but eating penis invalidates that".

mothra wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 10:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:04pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:48pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:39pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:37pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:36pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. Do you eat meat? Nope. Do you feel that makes you morally superior to meat eaters? Why? Do you think I ought to? You seem to be suggesting that I have an argument? I've met so many arseholes like Gordy. I was a vegetarian for about 20 years. Whenever arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't eat meat, they'd immediately become defensive & aggressive, even though I never once suggested that they should stop eating meat themselves or that I was superior to them or healthier etc. I never made a fuss about not eating meat, and never mentioned it until I was asked. Still, once the arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't share their love of meat, they immediately went on the attack. Yep, I know Gordy all too well. Yeah but Gordy has arguments for why I'm morally superior. I wonder what they are?

You seem very insecure.  I was simply asking if you're one of the vege types who actually DO feel morally superior for not eating creatures. I lived in byron bay for a bit luvy,  I've been called a murder for eating meat
A simple yes or no answer would have been just dandy.

GordyL wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 10:16pm:

mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:09pm: greggerypeccary wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:04pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:48pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:39pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:37pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:36pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. Do you eat meat? Nope. Do you feel that makes you morally superior to meat eaters? Why? Do you think I ought to? You seem to be suggesting that I have an argument? I've met so many arseholes like Gordy. I was a vegetarian for about 20 years. Whenever arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't eat meat, they'd immediately become defensive & aggressive, even though I never once suggested that they should stop eating meat themselves or that I was superior to them or healthier etc. I never made a fuss about not eating meat, and never mentioned it until I was asked. Still, once the arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't share their love of meat, they immediately went on the attack. Yep, I know Gordy all too well. Yeah but Gordy has arguments for why I'm morally superior. I wonder what they are? You seem very insecure.  I was simply asking if you're one of the vege types who actually DO feel morally superior for not eating creatures. I lived in byron bay for a bit luvy,  I've been called a murder for eating meat A simple yes or no answer would have been just dandy.

That's exactly what she gave you.

She said "Nope".

However, you couldn't leave it there.

You had to push it.

The insecure one is you.

You're showing your true colours tonight, Gordy.

GordyL wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 10:16pm:

mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:09pm: greggerypeccary wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:04pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:48pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:39pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:37pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:36pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. Do you eat meat? Nope. Do you feel that makes you morally superior to meat eaters? Why? Do you think I ought to? You seem to be suggesting that I have an argument? I've met so many arseholes like Gordy. I was a vegetarian for about 20 years. Whenever arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't eat meat, they'd immediately become defensive & aggressive, even though I never once suggested that they should stop eating meat themselves or that I was superior to them or healthier etc. I never made a fuss about not eating meat, and never mentioned it until I was asked. Still, once the arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't share their love of meat, they immediately went on the attack. Yep, I know Gordy all too well. Yeah but Gordy has arguments for why I'm morally superior. I wonder what they are? You seem very insecure.  I was simply asking if you're one of the vege types who actually DO feel morally superior for not eating creatures. I lived in byron bay for a bit luvy,  I've been called a murder for eating meat A simple yes or no answer would have been just dandy.

No. I was t you to qualify your question.

Why would I feel "morally superior" Gordy ?

mothra wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 10:19pm:

GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:16pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:09pm: greggerypeccary wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:04pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:48pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:39pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:37pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:36pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. Do you eat meat? Nope. Do you feel that makes you morally superior to meat eaters? Why? Do you think I ought to? You seem to be suggesting that I have an argument? I've met so many arseholes like Gordy. I was a vegetarian for about 20 years. Whenever arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't eat meat, they'd immediately become defensive & aggressive, even though I never once suggested that they should stop eating meat themselves or that I was superior to them or healthier etc. I never made a fuss about not eating meat, and never mentioned it until I was asked. Still, once the arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't share their love of meat, they immediately went on the attack. Yep, I know Gordy all too well. Yeah but Gordy has arguments for why I'm morally superior. I wonder what they are? You seem very insecure.  I was simply asking if you're one of the vege types who actually DO feel morally superior for not eating creatures. I lived in byron bay for a bit luvy,  I've been called a murder for eating meat A simple yes or no answer would have been just dandy. No. I was t you to qualify your question. Why would I feel "morally superior" Gordy ?

A lot of vegetarians do. I was simply curious about your feelings on the matter. It was a question, I wasn't implying.

GordyL wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 10:22pm:

A lot of vegetarians do. I was simply curious about your feelings on the matter. It was a question, I wasn't implying.

No.  Just generalising.

We've seen it from you so many times before.

"All Muslims are terrorists".

"All terrorists are Muslims".

"All homosexuals are pedophiles".

"All Aboriginals are unemployed drunks".

etc.

You're so boringly predictable, Gordy.

GordyL wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 10:22pm:

mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:19pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:16pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:09pm: greggerypeccary wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:04pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:48pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:39pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:37pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:36pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. Do you eat meat? Nope. Do you feel that makes you morally superior to meat eaters? Why? Do you think I ought to? You seem to be suggesting that I have an argument? I've met so many arseholes like Gordy. I was a vegetarian for about 20 years. Whenever arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't eat meat, they'd immediately become defensive & aggressive, even though I never once suggested that they should stop eating meat themselves or that I was superior to them or healthier etc. I never made a fuss about not eating meat, and never mentioned it until I was asked. Still, once the arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't share their love of meat, they immediately went on the attack. Yep, I know Gordy all too well. Yeah but Gordy has arguments for why I'm morally superior. I wonder what they are? You seem very insecure.  I was simply asking if you're one of the vege types who actually DO feel morally superior for not eating creatures. I lived in byron bay for a bit luvy,  I've been called a murder for eating meat A simple yes or no answer would have been just dandy. No. I was t you to qualify your question. Why would I feel "morally superior" Gordy ? A lot of vegetarians do. I was simply curious about your feelings on the matter. It was a question, I wasn't implying.

Isn't the best way of getting your question answered to question me on specific arguments I may or may not agree with?

greggerypeccary wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 10:25pm:

GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:22pm: A lot of vegetarians do. I was simply curious about your feelings on the matter. It was a question, I wasn't implying. No.  Just generalising. We've seen it from you so many times before. "All Muslims are terrorists". "All terrorists are Muslims". "All homosexuals are pedophiles". "All Aboriginals are unemployed drunks". etc. You're so boringly predictable, Gordy.

Where have I said homosexuals are pedos?
Link plz

mothra wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 10:25pm:

GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:22pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:19pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:16pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:09pm: greggerypeccary wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:04pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:48pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:39pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:37pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:36pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. Do you eat meat? Nope. Do you feel that makes you morally superior to meat eaters? Why? Do you think I ought to? You seem to be suggesting that I have an argument? I've met so many arseholes like Gordy. I was a vegetarian for about 20 years. Whenever arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't eat meat, they'd immediately become defensive & aggressive, even though I never once suggested that they should stop eating meat themselves or that I was superior to them or healthier etc. I never made a fuss about not eating meat, and never mentioned it until I was asked. Still, once the arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't share their love of meat, they immediately went on the attack. Yep, I know Gordy all too well. Yeah but Gordy has arguments for why I'm morally superior. I wonder what they are? You seem very insecure.  I was simply asking if you're one of the vege types who actually DO feel morally superior for not eating creatures. I lived in byron bay for a bit luvy,  I've been called a murder for eating meat A simple yes or no answer would have been just dandy. No. I was t you to qualify your question. Why would I feel "morally superior" Gordy ? A lot of vegetarians do. I was simply curious about your feelings on the matter. It was a question, I wasn't implying. Isn't the best way of getting your question answered to question me on specific arguments I may or may not agree with?

So consider it asked,  looking forward to your answer.

GordyL wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 10:28pm:

mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:25pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:22pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:19pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:16pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:09pm: greggerypeccary wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:04pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:48pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:39pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:37pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:36pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. Do you eat meat? Nope. Do you feel that makes you morally superior to meat eaters? Why? Do you think I ought to? You seem to be suggesting that I have an argument? I've met so many arseholes like Gordy. I was a vegetarian for about 20 years. Whenever arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't eat meat, they'd immediately become defensive & aggressive, even though I never once suggested that they should stop eating meat themselves or that I was superior to them or healthier etc. I never made a fuss about not eating meat, and never mentioned it until I was asked. Still, once the arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't share their love of meat, they immediately went on the attack. Yep, I know Gordy all too well. Yeah but Gordy has arguments for why I'm morally superior. I wonder what they are? You seem very insecure.  I was simply asking if you're one of the vege types who actually DO feel morally superior for not eating creatures. I lived in byron bay for a bit luvy,  I've been called a murder for eating meat A simple yes or no answer would have been just dandy. No. I was t you to qualify your question. Why would I feel "morally superior" Gordy ? A lot of vegetarians do. I was simply curious about your feelings on the matter. It was a question, I wasn't implying. Isn't the best way of getting your question answered to question me on specific arguments I may or may not agree with? So consider it asked,  looking forward to your answer.

What have I to feel morally superior about exactly Gordy?

You keep ducking the question.

GordyL wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 10:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:25pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:22pm: A lot of vegetarians do. I was simply curious about your feelings on the matter. It was a question, I wasn't implying. No.  Just generalising. We've seen it from you so many times before. "All Muslims are terrorists". "All terrorists are Muslims". "All homosexuals are pedophiles". "All Aboriginals are unemployed drunks". etc. You're so boringly predictable, Gordy. Where have I said homosexuals are pedos? Link plz

Careful you don't twist an ankle there, Gordy.

Getting on the back foot that quick could cause a serious injury.

mothra wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 10:31pm:

GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:28pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:25pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:22pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:19pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:16pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:09pm: greggerypeccary wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:04pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:48pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:39pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:37pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:36pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. Do you eat meat? Nope. Do you feel that makes you morally superior to meat eaters? Why? Do you think I ought to? You seem to be suggesting that I have an argument? I've met so many arseholes like Gordy. I was a vegetarian for about 20 years. Whenever arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't eat meat, they'd immediately become defensive & aggressive, even though I never once suggested that they should stop eating meat themselves or that I was superior to them or healthier etc. I never made a fuss about not eating meat, and never mentioned it until I was asked. Still, once the arseholes like Gordy found out that I didn't share their love of meat, they immediately went on the attack. Yep, I know Gordy all too well. Yeah but Gordy has arguments for why I'm morally superior. I wonder what they are? You seem very insecure.  I was simply asking if you're one of the vege types who actually DO feel morally superior for not eating creatures. I lived in byron bay for a bit luvy,  I've been called a murder for eating meat A simple yes or no answer would have been just dandy. No. I was t you to qualify your question. Why would I feel "morally superior" Gordy ? A lot of vegetarians do. I was simply curious about your feelings on the matter. It was a question, I wasn't implying. Isn't the best way of getting your question answered to question me on specific arguments I may or may not agree with? So consider it asked,  looking forward to your answer. What have I to feel morally superior about exactly Gordy? You keep ducking the question.

I have no idea, do you?

greggerypeccary wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 10:34pm:

GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:27pm: greggerypeccary wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:25pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:22pm: A lot of vegetarians do. I was simply curious about your feelings on the matter. It was a question, I wasn't implying. No.  Just generalising. We've seen it from you so many times before. "All Muslims are terrorists". "All terrorists are Muslims". "All homosexuals are pedophiles". "All Aboriginals are unemployed drunks". etc. You're so boringly predictable, Gordy. Where have I said homosexuals are pedos? Link plz Careful you don't twist an ankle there, Gordy. Getting on the back foot that quick could cause a serious injury.

Just post the link where Ive said all homosexuals are pedophiles or admit you're a liar.  That is all.

No idea at all?

Why would you ask me a question you knew nothing about?

Did you want me to educate you?

mothra wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 10:44pm:

No idea at all? Why would you ask me a question you knew nothing about? Did you want me to educate you?

I've actually met a lot of the meat is murder crowd,  I'm curious if you're one of them.  Simple question.

GordyL wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 10:46pm:

mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:44pm: No idea at all? Why would you ask me a question you knew nothing about? Did you want me to educate you? I've actually met a lot of the meat is murder crowd,  I'm curious if you're one of them.  Simple question.

First we need to establish what you mean by "morally superior". We haven't established that.

Personally I think you mean 'ethical superiority'.  A much more interesting  conversation anyway.

GordyL wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 10:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:34pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:27pm: greggerypeccary wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:25pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:22pm: A lot of vegetarians do. I was simply curious about your feelings on the matter. It was a question, I wasn't implying. No.  Just generalising. We've seen it from you so many times before. "All Muslims are terrorists". "All terrorists are Muslims". "All homosexuals are pedophiles". "All Aboriginals are unemployed drunks". etc. You're so boringly predictable, Gordy. Where have I said homosexuals are pedos? Link plz Careful you don't twist an ankle there, Gordy. Getting on the back foot that quick could cause a serious injury. Just post the link where Ive said all homosexuals are pedophiles or admit you're a liar.  That is all.

You might want to bandage that ankle, Gordy.

Oh look. Gweggy is trying to impress Mothra again. Puppy love is so cute.

Don't go judging people by your own twisted standards, Ian.

Dances With Crococdiles..

Jesus - when will people ever learn?

Shoot The Crocs!

freediver wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:23pm:

I've been swimming at Port Douglas before. If you pick the beach you can go for a swim. I got the impression from reports she was in some kind of backwater.

Give me a swimming expedition with a couple of gunboats alongside, heavily armed diver teams beneath, and a couple of gunships overhead....

Tonight... we eat Croc!

Cull the bastards and let Allah sort 'em out!  Can't go wasting good pussy like that.... dammit!

mothra wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 10:51pm:

GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:46pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:44pm: No idea at all? Why would you ask me a question you knew nothing about? Did you want me to educate you? I've actually met a lot of the meat is murder crowd,  I'm curious if you're one of them.  Simple question. First we need to establish what you mean by "morally superior". We haven't established that. Personally I think you mean 'ethical superiority'.  A much more interesting  conversation anyway.

What are your thoughts on vegetarians/vegans who claim moral/ethical superiority over omnivores?

greggerypeccary wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 11:01pm:

GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:44pm: greggerypeccary wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:34pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:27pm: greggerypeccary wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:25pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:22pm: A lot of vegetarians do. I was simply curious about your feelings on the matter. It was a question, I wasn't implying. No.  Just generalising. We've seen it from you so many times before. "All Muslims are terrorists". "All terrorists are Muslims". "All homosexuals are pedophiles". "All Aboriginals are unemployed drunks". etc. You're so boringly predictable, Gordy. Where have I said homosexuals are pedos? Link plz Careful you don't twist an ankle there, Gordy. Getting on the back foot that quick could cause a serious injury. Just post the link where Ive said all homosexuals are pedophiles or admit you're a liar.  That is all. You might want to bandage that ankle, Gordy.

Gweg, this is the standard you hold others to.
You are now officially a liar,  unless you can post that link.

In the meantime, here's one I prepared earlier.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1163983764/594#594

mothra wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 9:32pm:

I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly.

It's the same as watching a good action movie. It arouses the primal instincts that we tend to suppress these days. It gives us a better feel for who we really are.

ian wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 11:05pm:

Oh look. Gweggy is trying to impress Mothra again. Puppy love is so cute.

it is strange how they protect each other isnt it...

first they turn the thread into a personal thread.. in this case its gordys turn...then they deflect as much as possible posting huge thread with one line attacks..

its called debating lefty style.... of course somehow somewhere homosexuality will creep in...mostly if gweggy is in the thick of it which is usually the case...

almost every thread ends up the same its a form of bullying.. you know what they say about numbers.. ::) ::) ::)

anyway back to the croc...

I always find it weird they try to find the body??? after a croc attack.. :( :( :(


I am sure crocs do not keep their left overs...

freediver wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 7:50am:

mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. It's the same as watching a good action movie. It arouses the primal instincts that we tend to suppress these days. It gives us a better feel for who we really are.

I trust you speak only for yourself fd......

I personally am always on the animals side....the poor loves can smell us and they fear us....

we should be ashamed of ourselves.

cods wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 8:03am:

freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 7:50am: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. It's the same as watching a good action movie. It arouses the primal instincts that we tend to suppress these days. It gives us a better feel for who we really are. I trust you speak only for yourself fd...... I personally am always on the animals side....the poor loves can smell us and they fear us.... we should be ashamed of ourselves.

But who do you go for when it's lion vs gazelle?

I think crocs often let the body rot for a few days to soften it up.

freediver wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 8:10am:

I think crocs often let the body rot for a few days to soften it up.

they hide them under rocks and sunken trees.....who on earth is going to go down for a look see.... ::) ::)

someone gets taken by a croc or a shark.. is in their territory for sure..... so whos fault is it???...


GordyL wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 8:04am:

But who do you go for when it's lion vs gazelle?

its nature... and they kill for food....like we kill for food..

its the pleasure bit I dont get...why kill something that is doling what it is meant to do....

if sharks or croc... or lions for that matter killed humans and walked away from them...I could understand our need to get revenge..

as it is they dont do that......

greggerypeccary wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 9:29pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:24pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P2qAj4hitg We went on one of the 'croc spotting' tours on the daintree river. Notice how little effort the croc puts in on this attack. Did he die?

I'ld think so.
I was not on that boat, I assume it was in Africa.

The owner of our boat told us how they hunt.
They are stealth hunters.
In real life they are very scary beasts who will remain hidden underwater for over an hour before doing a surprise attack.

As what is shown in the clip.

cods wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 8:19am:

freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:10am: I think crocs often let the body rot for a few days to soften it up. they hide them under rocks and sunken trees.....who on earth is going to go down for a look see.... ::) ::) someone gets taken by a croc or a shark.. is in their territory for sure..... so whos fault is it???... GordyL wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:04am: But who do you go for when it's lion vs gazelle? its nature... and they kill for food....like we kill for food.. its the pleasure bit I dont get...why kill something that is doling what it is meant to do.... if sharks or croc... or lions for that matter killed humans and walked away from them...I could understand our need to get revenge.. as it is they dont do that......

We get pleasure from the things that come naturally to us. Otherwise we would develop an aversion to survival. All intelligent social predators display the same behaviour as us - including hunting and killing just for fun and even leaving all or most of the meat behind.

freediver wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 9:12am:

cods wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:19am: freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:10am: I think crocs often let the body rot for a few days to soften it up. they hide them under rocks and sunken trees.....who on earth is going to go down for a look see.... ::) ::) someone gets taken by a croc or a shark.. is in their territory for sure..... so whos fault is it???... GordyL wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:04am: But who do you go for when it's lion vs gazelle? its nature... and they kill for food....like we kill for food.. its the pleasure bit I dont get...why kill something that is doling what it is meant to do.... if sharks or croc... or lions for that matter killed humans and walked away from them...I could understand our need to get revenge.. as it is they dont do that...... We get pleasure from the things that come naturally to us. Otherwise we would develop an aversion to survival. All intelligent social predators display the same behaviour as us - including hunting and killing just for fun and even leaving all or most of the meat behind.

I disagree....they feast first..... we are the only animal that kills for pleasure.......photo ops.. and  ornaments.. ::) ::).. what other animal has trophies like that?..

cods wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 9:39am:

freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 9:12am: cods wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:19am: freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:10am: I think crocs often let the body rot for a few days to soften it up. they hide them under rocks and sunken trees.....who on earth is going to go down for a look see.... ::) ::) someone gets taken by a croc or a shark.. is in their territory for sure..... so whos fault is it???... GordyL wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:04am: But who do you go for when it's lion vs gazelle? its nature... and they kill for food....like we kill for food.. its the pleasure bit I dont get...why kill something that is doling what it is meant to do.... if sharks or croc... or lions for that matter killed humans and walked away from them...I could understand our need to get revenge.. as it is they dont do that...... We get pleasure from the things that come naturally to us. Otherwise we would develop an aversion to survival. All intelligent social predators display the same behaviour as us - including hunting and killing just for fun and even leaving all or most of the meat behind. I disagree....they feast first..... we are the only animal that kills for pleasure.......photo ops.. and  ornaments.. ::) ::).. what other animal has trophies like that?..

Wrong. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surplus_killing

cods wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 9:39am:

freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 9:12am: cods wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:19am: freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:10am: I think crocs often let the body rot for a few days to soften it up. they hide them under rocks and sunken trees.....who on earth is going to go down for a look see.... ::) ::) someone gets taken by a croc or a shark.. is in their territory for sure..... so whos fault is it???... GordyL wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:04am: But who do you go for when it's lion vs gazelle? its nature... and they kill for food....like we kill for food.. its the pleasure bit I dont get...why kill something that is doling what it is meant to do.... if sharks or croc... or lions for that matter killed humans and walked away from them...I could understand our need to get revenge.. as it is they dont do that...... We get pleasure from the things that come naturally to us. Otherwise we would develop an aversion to survival. All intelligent social predators display the same behaviour as us - including hunting and killing just for fun and even leaving all or most of the meat behind. I disagree....they feast first..... we are the only animal that kills for pleasure.......photo ops.. and  ornaments.. ::) ::).. what other animal has trophies like that?..

There are a few other animals that play with their prey before killing it. And they don't always eat it either. Cats, dolphins, killer whales and some other species do this.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 9:44am:

cods wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 9:39am: freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 9:12am: cods wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:19am: freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:10am: I think crocs often let the body rot for a few days to soften it up. they hide them under rocks and sunken trees.....who on earth is going to go down for a look see.... ::) ::) someone gets taken by a croc or a shark.. is in their territory for sure..... so whos fault is it???... GordyL wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:04am: But who do you go for when it's lion vs gazelle? its nature... and they kill for food....like we kill for food.. its the pleasure bit I dont get...why kill something that is doling what it is meant to do.... if sharks or croc... or lions for that matter killed humans and walked away from them...I could understand our need to get revenge.. as it is they dont do that...... We get pleasure from the things that come naturally to us. Otherwise we would develop an aversion to survival. All intelligent social predators display the same behaviour as us - including hunting and killing just for fun and even leaving all or most of the meat behind. I disagree....they feast first..... we are the only animal that kills for pleasure.......photo ops.. and  ornaments.. ::) ::).. what other animal has trophies like that?.. There are a few other animals that play with their prey before killing it. And they don't always eat it either. Cats, dolphins, killer whales and some other species do this.

Primates also. I expect anything that passes for an "intelligent, social predator" does this. You might have to add warm blooded, but I wouldn't class any of the cold blooded predators as particularly intelligent. The cold blooded animals tend to have a strategy of spending as little energy as possible.

from Gordy's link:

Surplus killing, also known as excessive killing and henhouse syndrome,[1][2] is a common behavior exhibited by predators, in which they kill more prey than they can immediately eat and then cache or abandon the remainder. The term was invented by Dutch biologist Hans Kruuk after studying spotted hyenas in Africa[3] and red foxes in England.[4] Surplus killing has been observed among zooplankton, damselfly naiads, predaceous mites, martens, weasels, honey badgers, wolves, orcas, red foxes, leopards, lions, spotted hyenas, spiders, brown[5] and black and polar bears, coyotes, lynx, mink, raccoons, dogs, house cats,[6] and humans.[7][8]

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 9:44am:

cods wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 9:39am: freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 9:12am: cods wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:19am: freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:10am: I think crocs often let the body rot for a few days to soften it up. they hide them under rocks and sunken trees.....who on earth is going to go down for a look see.... ::) ::) someone gets taken by a croc or a shark.. is in their territory for sure..... so whos fault is it???... GordyL wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:04am: But who do you go for when it's lion vs gazelle? its nature... and they kill for food....like we kill for food.. its the pleasure bit I dont get...why kill something that is doling what it is meant to do.... if sharks or croc... or lions for that matter killed humans and walked away from them...I could understand our need to get revenge.. as it is they dont do that...... We get pleasure from the things that come naturally to us. Otherwise we would develop an aversion to survival. All intelligent social predators display the same behaviour as us - including hunting and killing just for fun and even leaving all or most of the meat behind. I disagree....they feast first..... we are the only animal that kills for pleasure.......photo ops.. and  ornaments.. ::) ::).. what other animal has trophies like that?.. There are a few other animals that play with their prey before killing it. And they don't always eat it either. Cats, dolphins, killer whales and some other species do this.

well thats news to me....cats.... well lets leave them out of this.. as I have one like that..

however dophins and whales.. I have never heard of them attacking other fish for enjoyment..

btw on the cat issue my cat does eat some of the beast....urrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh

freediver wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 10:07am:

from Gordy's link: Surplus killing, also known as excessive killing and henhouse syndrome,[1][2] is a common behavior exhibited by predators, in which they kill more prey than they can immediately eat and then cache or abandon the remainder. The term was invented by Dutch biologist Hans Kruuk after studying spotted hyenas in Africa[3] and red foxes in England.[4] Surplus killing has been observed among zooplankton, damselfly naiads, predaceous mites, martens, weasels, honey badgers, wolves, orcas, red foxes, leopards, lions, spotted hyenas, spiders, brown[5] and black and polar bears, coyotes, lynx, mink, raccoons, dogs, house cats,[6] and humans.[7][8]

I think you are stretching it a bit when we are talling about humans hunting down a croc or shark that has had a nibble on a human...

what about snakes... do we hunt them down..they also kill humans..

havent heard of a badger attack in ages though.

freediver wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 7:50am:

mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. It's the same as watching a good action movie. It arouses the primal instincts that we tend to suppress these days. It gives us a better feel for who we really are.

The psychology behind the ghoulish gawking is the subliminal satisfaction we feel in knowing we ourselves are safe from these painful and fatal episodes that are being acted out in front of us.

At a bloody car accident, the Chinese will gather in a huge crowd from all around and laugh themselves sick. The laughing is from the relief they feel at not being one of the victims. By common agreement the majority feel it's okay to express themselves honestly at these occasional hilarious 'events'. Politeness and consideration for the victims is a Western cultural construct that they need not bother themselves with.

The bullfights have the same psychology behind them. It's not to identify with the primal aggression of the matador's 'hunting instinct', but to wait in hopeful anticipation that the matador will get gored and mutilated by the bull.

Speed-car racing. It's accidents that keep bringing the paying spectators back again.
 

freediver wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 8:10am:

I think crocs often let the body rot for a few days to soften it up.

That's good thinking on their part.

I do the same with my chicken wings, only I speed up the 'loose flesh' condition by deep frying them and then simmering them in 50 / 50 water and soya sauce with a couple of star aniseeds.

I don't have time to let my chicken wings rot on the side of a river bank, otherwise I would.

8-)

cods wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 8:19am:

freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:10am: I think crocs often let the body rot for a few days to soften it up. they hide them under rocks and sunken trees.....who on earth is going to go down for a look see.... ::) ::)

Other crocs, wild pigs, and abos.


cods wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 8:19am:

someone gets taken by a croc or a shark.. is in their territory for sure..... so whos fault is it???...

The people who hang their towels on the 'WARNING - CROCS!' notice boards.

mothra wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 11:09pm:

Don't go judging people by your own twisted standards, Ian.

defending your white knight against my twisted standards . Cute. maybe you should try the threads where he is salivating about "yellow cock" or the one where he discusses sex with 12 year olds. Or any of the numerous threads where he implies anyone he doesnt agree with is a pedophile or homosexual. Got to uphold those standards, eh mothra.

ian wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 11:33am:

mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 11:09pm: Don't go judging people by your own twisted standards, Ian. defending your white knight against my twisted standards . Cute. maybe you should try the threads where he is salivating about "yellow cock" or the one where he discusses sex with 12 year olds. Or any of the numerous threads where he implies anyone he doesnt agree with is a pedophile or homosexual. Got to uphold those standards, eh mothra.

Your twisted standards that imply a woman can't post online without it somehow being implied she is all about male attention.

It's not the first time you've obsessed about my sexulity.

Your twisted standards.

GordyL wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 7:24am:

mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:51pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:46pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:44pm: No idea at all? Why would you ask me a question you knew nothing about? Did you want me to educate you? I've actually met a lot of the meat is murder crowd,  I'm curious if you're one of them.  Simple question. First we need to establish what you mean by "morally superior". We haven't established that. Personally I think you mean 'ethical superiority'.  A much more interesting  conversation anyway. What are your thoughts on vegetarians/vegans who claim moral/ethical superiority over omnivores?

In what respect do they claim they have moral or ethical superiority?

What argument are you referring to? There are so many.

ian wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 11:33am:

mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 11:09pm: Don't go judging people by your own twisted standards, Ian. defending your white knight against my twisted standards . Cute. maybe you should try the threads where he is salivating about "yellow cock" or the one where he discusses sex with 12 year olds.

Link?

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 9:24pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P2qAj4hitg We went on one of the 'croc spotting' tours on the daintree river. Notice how little effort the croc puts in on this attack.

The footage doesn't match the title of the video.

No Warthog ... just a wild pig.

And obviously the pigs were looking for a feed from the people in the boat.

So they deliberately got that pig killed by the croc.

Bottom line ...both women were idiots .... crocs have been making a comeback down the QLD coast since 1974 when they became protected....

there have been enough fatal attacks starting with Beryl Wruck in the Daintree in 1985.

http://www.amazingaustralia.com.au/animals/crocodile_attacks.htm

They have re-established down as far south as the Mary River near Maryborough/Hervey Bay & Fraser Island.

Look out Brisbane/Moreton Bay you're next.

There are far too many now in QLD ... they have ruined a lot of tourism potential for our beautiful beach locations.

and I believe that they should be culled from south of the Daintree.

Oh anyone thinking it's safe to ever swim at Port Douglas no matter what the weather ... has rocks in the head.

You don't even go trying to fetch you golf balls from the water hazards at the Mirage Resort Golf course.

http://www.cairnspost.com.au/celebrity-croc-targeted-by-rangers-at-port-douglas-golf-club/news-story/68d2eab5dd66224cc43ba64ffe714c2a

GordyL wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 8:04am:

cods wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:03am: freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 7:50am: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. It's the same as watching a good action movie. It arouses the primal instincts that we tend to suppress these days. It gives us a better feel for who we really are. I trust you speak only for yourself fd...... I personally am always on the animals side....the poor loves can smell us and they fear us.... we should be ashamed of ourselves. But who do you go for when it's lion vs gazelle?

The gazelle, of course.

it's prettier

Gnads wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 12:59pm:

Bottom line ...both women were idiots .... crocs have been making a comeback down the QLD coast since 1974 when they became protected.... there have been enough fatal attacks starting with Beryl Wruck in the Daintree in 1985. http://www.amazingaustralia.com.au/animals/crocodile_attacks.htm They have re-established down as far south as the Mary River near Maryborough/Hervey Bay & Fraser Island. Look out Brisbane/Moreton Bay you're next. There are far too many now in QLD ... they have ruined a lot of tourism potential for our beautiful beach locations. and I believe that they should be culled from south of the Daintree. Oh anyone thinking it's safe to ever swim at Port Douglas no matter what the weather ... has rocks in the head. You don't even go trying to fetch you golf balls from the water hazards at the Mirage Resort Golf course. http://www.cairnspost.com.au/celebrity-croc-targeted-by-rangers-at-port-douglas-golf-club/news-story/68d2eab5dd66224cc43ba64ffe714c2a

Agree entirely

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 1:23pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:04am: cods wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:03am: freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 7:50am: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 9:32pm: I never understood how people got their kicks watching things die horribly. It's the same as watching a good action movie. It arouses the primal instincts that we tend to suppress these days. It gives us a better feel for who we really are. I trust you speak only for yourself fd...... I personally am always on the animals side....the poor loves can smell us and they fear us.... we should be ashamed of ourselves. But who do you go for when it's lion vs gazelle? The gazelle, of course. it's prettier

The question wasn't about bestiality.

mothra wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 12:17pm:

It's not the first time you've obsessed about my sexulity. .

Lol. You wish.

Anyone else think Mothra is coming over a bit desperate? Why the urge to mention her sexuality completley off topic when no one else does.

ian wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 4:06pm:

Anyone else think Mothra is coming over a bit desperate? Why the urge to mention her sexuality completley off topic when no one else does.

Again, infusing a woman with the connotation that she is reflected through the eyes of men.

And you have been quite insistent about my sexuality in the past. You even called me the town bike.


Like I said. Your own twisted standards.

ian wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 4:06pm:

Anyone else think Mothra is coming over a bit desperate? Why the urge to mention her sexuality completley off topic when no one else does.

Just TRY and ignore her.

I do.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 1:23pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 12:59pm: Bottom line ...both women were idiots .... crocs have been making a comeback down the QLD coast since 1974 when they became protected.... there have been enough fatal attacks starting with Beryl Wruck in the Daintree in 1985. http://www.amazingaustralia.com.au/animals/crocodile_attacks.htm They have re-established down as far south as the Mary River near Maryborough/Hervey Bay & Fraser Island. Look out Brisbane/Moreton Bay you're next. There are far too many now in QLD ... they have ruined a lot of tourism potential for our beautiful beach locations. and I believe that they should be culled from south of the Daintree. Oh anyone thinking it's safe to ever swim at Port Douglas no matter what the weather ... has rocks in the head. You don't even go trying to fetch you golf balls from the water hazards at the Mirage Resort Golf course. http://www.cairnspost.com.au/celebrity-croc-targeted-by-rangers-at-port-douglas-golf-club/news-story/68d2eab5dd66224cc43ba64ffe714c2a Agree entirely

Yep. True.

And when this news item was covered on Seven's Sunrise program, a croc expert mentioned that crocs are definitely getting BIGGER in size.

So you can forget about being in the water....people now need to be careful when in boats. You have to be in something big to be safe.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 11:15am:

freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:10am: I think crocs often let the body rot for a few days to soften it up. That's good thinking on their part. I do the same with my chicken wings, only I speed up the 'loose flesh' condition by deep frying them and then simmering them in 50 / 50 water and soya sauce with a couple of star aniseeds. I don't have time to let my chicken wings rot on the side of a river bank, otherwise I would. 8-)

Herb....this is a serious topic. 

::)

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 4:37pm:

ian wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 4:06pm: Anyone else think Mothra is coming over a bit desperate? Why the urge to mention her sexuality completley off topic when no one else does. Just TRY and ignore her. I do.

True. She is only looking for attention.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 4:37pm:

ian wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 4:06pm: Anyone else think Mothra is coming over a bit desperate? Why the urge to mention her sexuality completley off topic when no one else does. Just TRY and ignore her. I do.

No. You don't. Evidently.

ian wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 4:50pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 4:37pm: ian wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 4:06pm: Anyone else think Mothra is coming over a bit desperate? Why the urge to mention her sexuality completley off topic when no one else does. Just TRY and ignore her. I do. True. She is only looking for attention.

Ohhhh I know.

Unfortunately  ::)

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 4:42pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 1:23pm: Gnads wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 12:59pm: Bottom line ...both women were idiots .... crocs have been making a comeback down the QLD coast since 1974 when they became protected.... there have been enough fatal attacks starting with Beryl Wruck in the Daintree in 1985. http://www.amazingaustralia.com.au/animals/crocodile_attacks.htm They have re-established down as far south as the Mary River near Maryborough/Hervey Bay & Fraser Island. Look out Brisbane/Moreton Bay you're next. There are far too many now in QLD ... they have ruined a lot of tourism potential for our beautiful beach locations. and I believe that they should be culled from south of the Daintree. Oh anyone thinking it's safe to ever swim at Port Douglas no matter what the weather ... has rocks in the head. You don't even go trying to fetch you golf balls from the water hazards at the Mirage Resort Golf course. http://www.cairnspost.com.au/celebrity-croc-targeted-by-rangers-at-port-douglas-golf-club/news-story/68d2eab5dd66224cc43ba64ffe714c2a Agree entirely Yep. True. And when this news item was covered on Seven's Sunrise program, a croc expert mentioned that crocs are definitely getting BIGGER in size. So you can forget about being in the water....people now need to be careful when in boats. You have to be in something big to be safe.

Anyway......back to the topic.

ian wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 4:50pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 4:37pm: ian wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 4:06pm: Anyone else think Mothra is coming over a bit desperate? Why the urge to mention her sexuality completley off topic when no one else does. Just TRY and ignore her. I do. True. She is only looking for attention.

What was it that brought me to your attention Ian?

From reading back it seems it was just snickering over the fact Greg and I were posting at the same time.


.... you read something into it, as a result of your own twisted standards.

zip a de doo dah, zip a de ay, my of my its a wonderful day

ian wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 5:04pm:

zip a de doo dah, zip a de ay, my of my its a wonderful day

A singing white flag?

Two white flags, waving in unison to music.

If that isn't nice I don't know what is.

There was a proposal to allow trophy hunting with crocs which would allow tourists to shoot them and employ Aborigines as guides.

Crocs are not endangered despite the claims of the tree huggers, it could help reduce the welfare dependency of Aborigines.

We should allow trophy hunting for crocs with cashed up tourists.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 6:24pm:

We should allow trophy hunting for crocs with cashed up tourists.

In principle yes, but is there much demand for hunting crocs?  They are impressive creatures, but they don't seem particularly elusive or difficult to hunt, but I guess that wouldn't mean much to canned hunters.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 6:24pm:

There was a proposal to allow trophy hunting with crocs which would allow tourists to shoot them and employ Aborigines as guides. Crocs are not endangered despite the claims of the tree huggers, it could help reduce the welfare dependency of Aborigines. We should allow trophy hunting for crocs with cashed up tourists.

Good idea

... wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 6:32pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:24pm: We should allow trophy hunting for crocs with cashed up tourists. In principle yes, but is there much demand for hunting crocs?  They are impressive creatures, but they don't seem particularly elusive or difficult to hunt, but I guess that wouldn't mean much to canned hunters.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Unless, of course, the hunters are tackling the crocs without the aid of weapons.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 6:35pm:

... wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:32pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:24pm: We should allow trophy hunting for crocs with cashed up tourists. In principle yes, but is there much demand for hunting crocs?  They are impressive creatures, but they don't seem particularly elusive or difficult to hunt, but I guess that wouldn't mean much to canned hunters. Exactly what I was thinking. Unless, of course, the hunters are tackling the crocs without the aid of weapons.

People pay to kill tame lions lured with food.

Some people just want to kill things.

mothra wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 6:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:35pm: ... wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:32pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:24pm: We should allow trophy hunting for crocs with cashed up tourists. In principle yes, but is there much demand for hunting crocs?  They are impressive creatures, but they don't seem particularly elusive or difficult to hunt, but I guess that wouldn't mean much to canned hunters. Exactly what I was thinking. Unless, of course, the hunters are tackling the crocs without the aid of weapons. People pay to kill tame lions lured with food. Some people just want to kill things.

Some brave people out there.

It must be very hard to "hunt" a croc, basking in the sun on the banks of a river, from the safety of a boat.

mothra wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 6:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:35pm: ... wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:32pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:24pm: We should allow trophy hunting for crocs with cashed up tourists. In principle yes, but is there much demand for hunting crocs?  They are impressive creatures, but they don't seem particularly elusive or difficult to hunt, but I guess that wouldn't mean much to canned hunters. Exactly what I was thinking. Unless, of course, the hunters are tackling the crocs without the aid of weapons. People pay to kill tame lions lured with food. Some people just want to kill things.

Zimbabwe is going to cull 200 lions where is the outrage over that?

Not many wealthy tourists willing to pay $50K a Lion since that Dentist was hounded from his place of work and home with death threats from peaceful animal lovers despite the fact he broke no laws.

Zimbabwe was getting $50,000 a Lion from wealthy tourists to shoot Lions they would have to cull anyway, now they have to shoot 200 of them for no money thanks to do gooding retarded leftists.

I guess there will be no outrage over the culling of these 200 lions since a black man will be shooting them, the retarded racist leftists are only outraged when white man shoots something.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 6:41pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:37pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:35pm: ... wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:32pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:24pm: We should allow trophy hunting for crocs with cashed up tourists. In principle yes, but is there much demand for hunting crocs?  They are impressive creatures, but they don't seem particularly elusive or difficult to hunt, but I guess that wouldn't mean much to canned hunters. Exactly what I was thinking. Unless, of course, the hunters are tackling the crocs without the aid of weapons. People pay to kill tame lions lured with food. Some people just want to kill things. Some brave people out there. It must be very hard to "hunt" a croc, basking in the sun on the banks of a river, from the safety of a boat.

So you would prefer some public servant on bloated wages from taxpayers shoot problem crocs instead of giving Aborigines employment to guide tourists who will pay to shoot them?

For retards like little pecca a set of shark jaws hanging on the wall is ok yet a croc skull isn't.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 6:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:41pm: mothra wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:37pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:35pm: ... wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:32pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:24pm: We should allow trophy hunting for crocs with cashed up tourists. In principle yes, but is there much demand for hunting crocs?  They are impressive creatures, but they don't seem particularly elusive or difficult to hunt, but I guess that wouldn't mean much to canned hunters. Exactly what I was thinking. Unless, of course, the hunters are tackling the crocs without the aid of weapons. People pay to kill tame lions lured with food. Some people just want to kill things. Some brave people out there. It must be very hard to "hunt" a croc, basking in the sun on the banks of a river, from the safety of a boat. So you would prefer some public servant on bloated wages from taxpayers shoot problem crocs instead of giving Aborigines employment to guide tourists?

I would prefer that "problem" crocs  and "problem" sharks were left alone.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 6:46pm:

a set of shark jaws hanging on the wall is ok

Sure.

If you're a redneck with a small penis, maybe.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 6:50pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:46pm: a set of shark jaws hanging on the wall is ok Sure. If you're a redneck with a small penis, maybe.

Ladyboys like you tend to sit around all day with a fixation on penis size eh little pecca

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 6:44pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:37pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:35pm: ... wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:32pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:24pm: We should allow trophy hunting for crocs with cashed up tourists. In principle yes, but is there much demand for hunting crocs?  They are impressive creatures, but they don't seem particularly elusive or difficult to hunt, but I guess that wouldn't mean much to canned hunters. Exactly what I was thinking. Unless, of course, the hunters are tackling the crocs without the aid of weapons. People pay to kill tame lions lured with food. Some people just want to kill things. Zimbabwe is going to cull 200 lions where is the outrage over that? Not many wealthy tourists willing to pay $50K a Lion since that Dentist was hounded from his place of work and home with death threats from peaceful animal lovers despite the fact he broke no laws. Zimbabwe was getting $50,000 a Lion from wealthy tourists to shoot Lions they would have to cull anyway, now they have to shoot 200 of them for no money thanks to do gooding retarded leftists. I guess there will be no outrage over the culling of these 200 lions since a black man will be shooting them, the retarded racist leftists are only outraged when white man shoots something.

No. Most people don't approve of trophy hunting.

It has nothing to do with skin colour. Seriously.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 6:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:50pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:46pm: a set of shark jaws hanging on the wall is ok Sure. If you're a redneck with a small penis, maybe. Ladyboys like you tend to sit around all day with a fixation on penis size eh little pecca

The irony is wonderful.

mothra wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 6:59pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:44pm: mothra wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:37pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:35pm: ... wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:32pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:24pm: We should allow trophy hunting for crocs with cashed up tourists. In principle yes, but is there much demand for hunting crocs?  They are impressive creatures, but they don't seem particularly elusive or difficult to hunt, but I guess that wouldn't mean much to canned hunters. Exactly what I was thinking. Unless, of course, the hunters are tackling the crocs without the aid of weapons. People pay to kill tame lions lured with food. Some people just want to kill things. Zimbabwe is going to cull 200 lions where is the outrage over that? Not many wealthy tourists willing to pay $50K a Lion since that Dentist was hounded from his place of work and home with death threats from peaceful animal lovers despite the fact he broke no laws. Zimbabwe was getting $50,000 a Lion from wealthy tourists to shoot Lions they would have to cull anyway, now they have to shoot 200 of them for no money thanks to do gooding retarded leftists. I guess there will be no outrage over the culling of these 200 lions since a black man will be shooting them, the retarded racist leftists are only outraged when white man shoots something. No. Most people don't approve of trophy hunting. It has nothing to do with skin colour. Seriously.

A white hunter shoots a Lion and the leftists are butthurt with outrage, a black man has to cull 200 Lions in the same country and not a word from the racists who oppose white man hunting.

The Lions are going to be shot is it better for a poor country to charge $50K a lion or shoot them for nothing?

Borsak was in the news for shooting and eating an elephant he shot, Zimbabwe say they have double the sustainable population of elephants in some parks what are they supposed to do with them without upsetting the ignorant soy latte sipping inner city types?
in.reuters.com/article/zimbabwe-elephants-idINKBNOMG24K20150320

Trophy hunting is bad yet wearing leather or having handbags,purses,shoes,chairs,car interiors from leather is ok according to the hypocrites who dislike trophy hunting.

Hunting has been going in in Africa before you were born and will continue long after you die.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 7:14pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:59pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:44pm: mothra wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:37pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:35pm: ... wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:32pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:24pm: We should allow trophy hunting for crocs with cashed up tourists. In principle yes, but is there much demand for hunting crocs?  They are impressive creatures, but they don't seem particularly elusive or difficult to hunt, but I guess that wouldn't mean much to canned hunters. Exactly what I was thinking. Unless, of course, the hunters are tackling the crocs without the aid of weapons. People pay to kill tame lions lured with food. Some people just want to kill things. Zimbabwe is going to cull 200 lions where is the outrage over that? Not many wealthy tourists willing to pay $50K a Lion since that Dentist was hounded from his place of work and home with death threats from peaceful animal lovers despite the fact he broke no laws. Zimbabwe was getting $50,000 a Lion from wealthy tourists to shoot Lions they would have to cull anyway, now they have to shoot 200 of them for no money thanks to do gooding retarded leftists. I guess there will be no outrage over the culling of these 200 lions since a black man will be shooting them, the retarded racist leftists are only outraged when white man shoots something. No. Most people don't approve of trophy hunting. It has nothing to do with skin colour. Seriously. A white hunter shoots a Lion and the leftists are butthurt with outrage, a black man has to cull 200 Lions in the same country and not a word from the racists who oppose white man hunting. The Lions are going to be shot is it better for a poor country to charge $50K a lion or shoot them for nothing? Borsak was in the news for shooting and eating an elephant he shot, Zimbabwe say they have double the sustainable population of elephants in some parks what are they supposed to do with them without upsetting the ignorant soy latte sipping inner city types? in.reuters.com/article/zimbabwe-elephants-idINKBNOMG24K20150320 Trophy hunting is bad yet wearing leather or having handbags,purses,shoes,chairs,car interiors from leather is ok according to the hypocrites who dislike trophy hunting. Hunting has been going in in Africa before you were born and will continue long after you die.

What are you arguing Baron?

You concede trophy hunting is bad but run all over the shop defending it.

Hunting a wild animal is vastly different to canned hunting in any event.

And shooting cross would be little more than that.

What thrill could a person get from that other than the joy of killing?

"Shooters and Fishers MP Robert Borsak says he ate elephant he shot in Africa" Link

"I choose to hunt and gather my own meat because it is my right to do so, it's a clean, organic and sustainable way to live."

Yeah mate, whatever you say.

mothra wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 7:21pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 7:14pm: mothra wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:59pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:44pm: mothra wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:37pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:35pm: ... wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:32pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:24pm: We should allow trophy hunting for crocs with cashed up tourists. In principle yes, but is there much demand for hunting crocs?  They are impressive creatures, but they don't seem particularly elusive or difficult to hunt, but I guess that wouldn't mean much to canned hunters. Exactly what I was thinking. Unless, of course, the hunters are tackling the crocs without the aid of weapons. People pay to kill tame lions lured with food. Some people just want to kill things. Zimbabwe is going to cull 200 lions where is the outrage over that? Not many wealthy tourists willing to pay $50K a Lion since that Dentist was hounded from his place of work and home with death threats from peaceful animal lovers despite the fact he broke no laws. Zimbabwe was getting $50,000 a Lion from wealthy tourists to shoot Lions they would have to cull anyway, now they have to shoot 200 of them for no money thanks to do gooding retarded leftists. I guess there will be no outrage over the culling of these 200 lions since a black man will be shooting them, the retarded racist leftists are only outraged when white man shoots something. No. Most people don't approve of trophy hunting. It has nothing to do with skin colour. Seriously. A white hunter shoots a Lion and the leftists are butthurt with outrage, a black man has to cull 200 Lions in the same country and not a word from the racists who oppose white man hunting. The Lions are going to be shot is it better for a poor country to charge $50K a lion or shoot them for nothing? Borsak was in the news for shooting and eating an elephant he shot, Zimbabwe say they have double the sustainable population of elephants in some parks what are they supposed to do with them without upsetting the ignorant soy latte sipping inner city types? in.reuters.com/article/zimbabwe-elephants-idINKBNOMG24K20150320 Trophy hunting is bad yet wearing leather or having handbags,purses,shoes,chairs,car interiors from leather is ok according to the hypocrites who dislike trophy hunting. Hunting has been going in in Africa before you were born and will continue long after you die. What are you arguing Baron? You concede trophy hunting is bad but run all over the shop defending it. Hunting a wild animal is vastly different to canned hunting in any event. And shooting cross would be little more than that. What thrill could a person get from that other than the joy of killing?

We cull hundreds of crocs every year, of course leftist retards prefer to invoice the taxpayers for this when we could charge $15-20K per croc and help reduce Aboriginal unemployment.

abc.net.au/news/2016-06-01/crocodile-hunting-indigenous-affairs-minister-backtracks/7468480

Landowners have a legal obligation to eradicate feral pests by any lawful method they can be prosecuted for failing to deal with feral pests, are you saying they get joy from killing to avoid prosecution?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 7:35pm:

"Shooters and Fishers MP Robert Borsak says he ate elephant he shot in Africa" Link "I choose to hunt and gather my own meat because it is my right to do so, it's a clean, organic and sustainable way to live." Yeah mate, whatever you say.

Perhaps Borsak should have taken a bludger like you to Bali for a holiday instead eh little pecca.


Quote:

While Hwange has the capacity to support 15,000 elephants, the park in Zimbabwe has 43,000 of the animals. Where you try to bring in hunters there are also sanctions, where we try to carry out live sales they say don't sell. We are between a rock and a hard place. bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-20/zimbabwe-to-export-live-elephants-defying-activist-s-opposition

Is this what Borsak did?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CdtOSPXADM

Little pecca-
What do you suggest Zimbabwe does with their 28,000 surplus elephants?

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 7:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 7:35pm: "Shooters and Fishers MP Robert Borsak says he ate elephant he shot in Africa" Link "I choose to hunt and gather my own meat because it is my right to do so, it's a clean, organic and sustainable way to live." Yeah mate, whatever you say. Perhaps Borsak should have ...

... been a real man instead?

Yes, I agree.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 7:35pm:

"Shooters and Fishers MP Robert Borsak says he ate elephant he shot in Africa" Link "I choose to hunt and gather my own meat because it is my right to do so, it's a clean, organic and sustainable way to live." Yeah mate, whatever you say.

Thd quoted part is a very good point, so long as hes not claiming he went to africa to gather meat.  A lot of mest on an elephant, but shipping it halfway acroas the world is far from sustainable.

Just read it - the greens mp seemed more disgusted he ate the elephant than that he killed it in the first place.  Thats a hard mindset to understand - would it be better if he wasted it?

mothra wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 12:20pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 7:24am: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:51pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:46pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:44pm: No idea at all? Why would you ask me a question you knew nothing about? Did you want me to educate you? I've actually met a lot of the meat is murder crowd,  I'm curious if you're one of them.  Simple question. First we need to establish what you mean by "morally superior". We haven't established that. Personally I think you mean 'ethical superiority'.  A much more interesting  conversation anyway. What are your thoughts on vegetarians/vegans who claim moral/ethical superiority over omnivores? In what respect do they claim they have moral or ethical superiority? What argument are you referring to? There are so many.

As I mentioned, I Byron Bay for a while which is fruit loop central and I've met heard countless diatribes on countless reasons why vegans are morally superior to meat eaters.
I once saw a group of ferals link hands around a fund raising BBQ and chant 'meat is murder meat is murder'. Good old Byron Bay :)

Simple question.
Did you choose vegetarianism for which of the following reasons:

A Dietary
B Environmental
C Moral
D Other - please state

mothra wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 6:37pm:

Some people just want to kill things.

Why bring muslims into it  :(

... wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 7:52pm:

Just read it - the greens mp seemed more disgusted he ate the elephant than that he killed it in the first place.  Thats a hard mindset to understand - would it be better if he wasted it?

Borsak broke no laws what he did was 100% legal, the Greens MP who whinged about it does break laws.

abc.net.au/news/2016-03-14/jeremy-buckingham-escapes-conviction-for-trespassing/7245454

GordyL wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 8:05pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 12:20pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 7:24am: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:51pm: GordyL wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:46pm: mothra wrote on May 31st, 2016 at 10:44pm: No idea at all? Why would you ask me a question you knew nothing about? Did you want me to educate you? I've actually met a lot of the meat is murder crowd,  I'm curious if you're one of them.  Simple question. First we need to establish what you mean by "morally superior". We haven't established that. Personally I think you mean 'ethical superiority'.  A much more interesting  conversation anyway. What are your thoughts on vegetarians/vegans who claim moral/ethical superiority over omnivores? In what respect do they claim they have moral or ethical superiority? What argument are you referring to? There are so many. As I mentioned, I Byron Bay for a while which is fruit loop central and I've met heard countless diatribes on countless reasons why vegans are morally superior to meat eaters. I once saw a group of ferals link hands around a fund raising BBQ and chant 'meat is murder meat is murder'. Good old Byron Bay :) Simple question. Did you choose vegetarianism for which of the following reasons: A Dietary B Environmental C Moral D Other - please state

I started being a vegetarian when I was 9 because I love animals but since making that decision, I have come across many reasons to validate my choice.

mothra wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 7:21pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 7:14pm: mothra wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:59pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:44pm: mothra wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:37pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:35pm: ... wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:32pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:24pm: We should allow trophy hunting for crocs with cashed up tourists. In principle yes, but is there much demand for hunting crocs?  They are impressive creatures, but they don't seem particularly elusive or difficult to hunt, but I guess that wouldn't mean much to canned hunters. Exactly what I was thinking. Unless, of course, the hunters are tackling the crocs without the aid of weapons. People pay to kill tame lions lured with food. Some people just want to kill things. Zimbabwe is going to cull 200 lions where is the outrage over that? Not many wealthy tourists willing to pay $50K a Lion since that Dentist was hounded from his place of work and home with death threats from peaceful animal lovers despite the fact he broke no laws. Zimbabwe was getting $50,000 a Lion from wealthy tourists to shoot Lions they would have to cull anyway, now they have to shoot 200 of them for no money thanks to do gooding retarded leftists. I guess there will be no outrage over the culling of these 200 lions since a black man will be shooting them, the retarded racist leftists are only outraged when white man shoots something. No. Most people don't approve of trophy hunting. It has nothing to do with skin colour. Seriously. A white hunter shoots a Lion and the leftists are butthurt with outrage, a black man has to cull 200 Lions in the same country and not a word from the racists who oppose white man hunting. The Lions are going to be shot is it better for a poor country to charge $50K a lion or shoot them for nothing? Borsak was in the news for shooting and eating an elephant he shot, Zimbabwe say they have double the sustainable population of elephants in some parks what are they supposed to do with them without upsetting the ignorant soy latte sipping inner city types? in.reuters.com/article/zimbabwe-elephants-idINKBNOMG24K20150320 Trophy hunting is bad yet wearing leather or having handbags,purses,shoes,chairs,car interiors from leather is ok according to the hypocrites who dislike trophy hunting. Hunting has been going in in Africa before you were born and will continue long after you die. What are you arguing Baron? You concede trophy hunting is bad but run all over the shop defending it. Hunting a wild animal is vastly different to canned hunting in any event. And shooting cross would be little more than that. What thrill could a person get from that other than the joy of killing?

I agree. I've shot feral goats, pigs, bunnies and a few roos.
Of all those things I really only liked shooting bunnies because they're smaller, most plentiful and nice to eat and they die very very quickly.

Shooting crocs would be like sitting around in a boat waiting for a log to surface then shooting it.