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Message started by GordyL on May 29th, 2016 at 10:06am

Title: Scams
Post by GordyL on May 29th, 2016 at 10:06am
I check and clean my spam folder every day as I get a fair bit of legit stuff that lands in there. I've seen the Auspost ones, a fake one from a courier company I've used but here's a new one and I'm granting point for creativity.

I would however lowered the amount to $250 or $500 to still get the greedy but make it more believable.


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Title: Re: Scams
Post by cods on May 29th, 2016 at 10:10am
what about letting us all in on it gordy..

scams are horrible but if we are not aware of them   we get taken in.....I never look in my folder to be honest.....but every once in a while something gets through.....I rarely open them....I am just not interested   but if I was I could get sucked in..


Title: Re: Scams
Post by GordyL on May 29th, 2016 at 10:20am

cods wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 10:10am:
what about letting us all in on it gordy..

scams are horrible but if we are not aware of them   we get taken in.....I never look in my folder to be honest.....but every once in a while something gets through.....I rarely open them....I am just not interested   but if I was I could get sucked in..


I read my business email thru gmail and the spam filter is brilliant. All the phishing emails end up in the spam folder, but as I said I get 2 or 3 legit emails ending up there every week, so I sift thru it every day.

Simple rule. Never open links from email unless it's someone you actually know or was expecting.

The obvious stuff is obvious, African millionaires, dick pills, earn $2000 a day, but there is much more subtle stuff now, and the Bunnings voucher is a good example.


Title: Re: Scams
Post by Redneck on May 29th, 2016 at 10:22am
I have had a couple recently purporting to be from the ATO, its a recorded message that goes on suggesting you are in trouble with the Tax Office and asking you to call a Sydney number (02). That caught my attention so  I tried calling it back immediately but got no answer.

I thought I would report it but found the online reporting site a bit of a pain to use so gave up.

Title: Re: Scams
Post by freediver on May 29th, 2016 at 10:24am
Now they have your phone number marked as a sucker or a tax cheat.

Title: Re: Scams
Post by cods on May 29th, 2016 at 10:27am

GordyL wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 10:20am:

cods wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 10:10am:
what about letting us all in on it gordy..

scams are horrible but if we are not aware of them   we get taken in.....I never look in my folder to be honest.....but every once in a while something gets through.....I rarely open them....I am just not interested   but if I was I could get sucked in..


I read my business email thru gmail and the spam filter is brilliant. All the phishing emails end up in the spam folder, but as I said I get 2 or 3 legit emails ending up there every week, so I sift thru it every day.

Simple rule. Never open links from email unless it's someone you actually know or was expecting.

The obvious stuff is obvious, African millionaires, dick pills, earn $2000 a day, but there is much more subtle stuff now, and the Bunnings voucher is a good example.



thank god for the filter....there should be a hot line to report these scams..

god people can report a commercial that offends them with ease... yet something like this  and you have to be computer savvy

Title: Re: Scams
Post by GordyL on May 29th, 2016 at 10:33am

cods wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 10:27am:

GordyL wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 10:20am:

cods wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 10:10am:
what about letting us all in on it gordy..

scams are horrible but if we are not aware of them   we get taken in.....I never look in my folder to be honest.....but every once in a while something gets through.....I rarely open them....I am just not interested   but if I was I could get sucked in..


I read my business email thru gmail and the spam filter is brilliant. All the phishing emails end up in the spam folder, but as I said I get 2 or 3 legit emails ending up there every week, so I sift thru it every day.

Simple rule. Never open links from email unless it's someone you actually know or was expecting.

The obvious stuff is obvious, African millionaires, dick pills, earn $2000 a day, but there is much more subtle stuff now, and the Bunnings voucher is a good example.



thank god for the filter....there should be a hot line to report these scams..

god people can report a commercial that offends them with ease... yet something like this  and you have to be computer savvy


They're all coming from outside of Australia so not much action can be taken.

Title: Re: Scams
Post by Redneck on May 29th, 2016 at 10:42am

freediver wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 10:24am:
Now they have your phone number marked as a sucker or a tax cheat.


Because I rang it back, that tells them nothing, it might also mean I am a Cop as well.

Title: Re: Scams
Post by greggerypeccary on May 29th, 2016 at 10:46am

cods wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 10:27am:
thank god for the filter....there should be a hot line to report these scams..


Scam Watch

Title: Re: Scams
Post by Carl D on May 29th, 2016 at 10:50am

Redmond Neck wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 10:22am:
I have had a couple recently purporting to be from the ATO, its a recorded message that goes on suggesting you are in trouble with the Tax Office and asking you to call a Sydney number (02). That caught my attention so  I tried calling it back immediately but got no answer.

I thought I would report it but found the online reporting site a bit of a pain to use so gave up.


Had quite a few of those left on my answering machine last year. One so far this year. Either 02 or 03 numbers.

But, I guarantee they're not coming from Sydney or Melbourne or anywhere in Australia.

https://www.scamwatch.gov.au/news/telephone-calls-alleging-fake-arrest-warrants-used-to-scam-money


Quote:
The scammer will ask you to telephone a number that appears to be Australian but is likely to be a VOIP number.


Title: Re: Scams
Post by Redneck on May 29th, 2016 at 10:52am

Carl D wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 10:50am:

Redmond Neck wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 10:22am:
I have had a couple recently purporting to be from the ATO, its a recorded message that goes on suggesting you are in trouble with the Tax Office and asking you to call a Sydney number (02). That caught my attention so  I tried calling it back immediately but got no answer.

I thought I would report it but found the online reporting site a bit of a pain to use so gave up.


Had quite a few of those left on my answering machine last year. One so far this year. Either 02 or 03 numbers.

But, I guarantee they're not coming from Sydney or Melbourne or anywhere in Australia.


Yes I imagine you are correct, not sure how they are forwarding a false Calling Number Identification signal on the phone system though?  As the number was in the message and recorded on the CLI display of the phone

Title: Re: Scams
Post by Carl D on May 29th, 2016 at 10:55am

Redmond Neck wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 10:52am:
Yes I imagine you are correct, not sure how they are forwarding a false Calling Number Identification signal on the phone system though?


I just edited my last post. They're not using the phone system as such. They're using VOIP and faking the numbers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_over_IP

Title: Re: Scams
Post by Redneck on May 29th, 2016 at 10:58am

Carl D wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 10:55am:

Redmond Neck wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 10:52am:
Yes I imagine you are correct, not sure how they are forwarding a false Calling Number Identification signal on the phone system though?


I just edited my last post. They're not using the phone system as such. They're using VOIP and faking the numbers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_over_IP


Actually You are spot on, this is the same as sending a text message on Skype that shows up as coming from your mobile.

Thanks Carl

Title: Re: Scams
Post by mortdooley on May 29th, 2016 at 11:00am
Scam phone calls are very common here as well. I get men who sound like they are from India who claim to work for Microsoft and need remote control of my computer. We have caller ID  and I generally say "meat department" when I know it is a scammer. They sound confused and ask for one of us by name and I tell them they have reached the meat department at the local Walmart.

Title: Re: Scams
Post by Redneck on May 29th, 2016 at 11:02am
What now begs the question is why do they use this recorded message  and then dont speak to you if the call back number is dodgy, unless they are waiting to hear you speak and in my case I didnt?

Dunno?

Title: Re: Scams
Post by greggerypeccary on May 29th, 2016 at 11:02am


A lot of people get caught out by this scam (safe link).

I strongly suggest reporting it to Scam Watch.

Title: Re: Scams
Post by Carl D on May 29th, 2016 at 11:15am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:02am:
A lot of people get caught out by this scam (safe link).

I strongly suggest reporting it to Scam Watch.


;D

I think this one is worse (particularly for us in WA):

scam (safe link)

And, this one in particular:

scam (safe link)

Hopefully, these scams will come to an end in March next year.



Title: Re: Scams
Post by Redneck on May 29th, 2016 at 11:16am
I think you are both silly Billys!

;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Scams
Post by greggerypeccary on May 29th, 2016 at 11:17am

Carl D wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:15am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:02am:
A lot of people get caught out by this scam (safe link).

I strongly suggest reporting it to Scam Watch.


;D

I think this one is worse (particularly for us in WA):

scam (safe link)

And, this one in particular:

scam (safe link)

Hopefully, these scams will come to an end in March next year.


It's amazing how many people get caught out by these swindlers.


Title: Re: Scams
Post by cods on May 29th, 2016 at 11:17am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:02am:
A lot of people get caught out by this scam (safe link).

I strongly suggest reporting it to Scam Watch.



suck a sad wanker you are gweg... and the scam link looks like a scam anyway with all the details they want...

Title: Re: Scams
Post by cods on May 29th, 2016 at 11:18am

Redmond Neck wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:16am:
I think you are both silly Billys!

;D ;D ;D ;D




yeah they match Bill the dill for sure.... and thats no mean effort.. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Scams
Post by greggerypeccary on May 29th, 2016 at 11:21am

cods wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:02am:
A lot of people get caught out by this scam (safe link).

I strongly suggest reporting it to Scam Watch.


and the scam link looks like a scam anyway with all the details they want...


It's run by the ACCC, cods.

Are you suggesting that the ACCC is a scam?

And, why are you so concerned about providing your details when reporting a scam - do you have something to hide?



Title: Re: Scams
Post by cods on May 29th, 2016 at 11:26am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:21am:

cods wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:02am:
A lot of people get caught out by this scam (safe link).

I strongly suggest reporting it to Scam Watch.


and the scam link looks like a scam anyway with all the details they want...


It's run by the ACCC, cods.

Are you suggesting that the ACCC is a scam?

And, why are you so concerned about providing your details when reporting a scam - do you have something to hide?



yeah as has been mentioned someone got a scam from the Tax Dept are you suggesting they also are a scam???>>.

scams are all based on fact.. dont you know anything..

Title: Re: Scams
Post by Redneck on May 29th, 2016 at 11:27am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:21am:

cods wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:02am:
A lot of people get caught out by this scam (safe link).

I strongly suggest reporting it to Scam Watch.


and the scam link looks like a scam anyway with all the details they want...


It's run by the ACCC, cods.

Are you suggesting that the ACCC is a scam?

And, why are you so concerned about providing your details when reporting a scam - do you have something to hide?


Be careful Gweggy, cods has connections in the AFP (two I think...Aussie will know for sure)

Title: Re: Scams
Post by greggerypeccary on May 29th, 2016 at 11:28am

cods wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:21am:

cods wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:02am:
A lot of people get caught out by this scam (safe link).

I strongly suggest reporting it to Scam Watch.


and the scam link looks like a scam anyway with all the details they want...


It's run by the ACCC, cods.

Are you suggesting that the ACCC is a scam?

And, why are you so concerned about providing your details when reporting a scam - do you have something to hide?



yeah as has been mentioned someone got a scam from the Tax Dept


Nobody received a scam from the Tax Dept, cods.





Title: Re: Scams
Post by Redneck on May 29th, 2016 at 11:32am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:28am:

cods wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:21am:

cods wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:02am:
A lot of people get caught out by this scam (safe link).

I strongly suggest reporting it to Scam Watch.


and the scam link looks like a scam anyway with all the details they want...


It's run by the ACCC, cods.

Are you suggesting that the ACCC is a scam?

And, why are you so concerned about providing your details when reporting a scam - do you have something to hide?



yeah as has been mentioned someone got a scam from the Tax Dept


Nobody received a scam from the Tax Dept, cods.


Pedantic Gweggy!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Scams
Post by greggerypeccary on May 29th, 2016 at 11:34am

Redmond Neck wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:28am:

cods wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:21am:

cods wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:02am:
A lot of people get caught out by this scam (safe link).

I strongly suggest reporting it to Scam Watch.


and the scam link looks like a scam anyway with all the details they want...


It's run by the ACCC, cods.

Are you suggesting that the ACCC is a scam?

And, why are you so concerned about providing your details when reporting a scam - do you have something to hide?



yeah as has been mentioned someone got a scam from the Tax Dept


Nobody received a scam from the Tax Dept, cods.


Pedantic Gweggy! 


I'm just trying to educate cods.

It's a struggle, but I'm gonna keep at it.



Title: Re: Scams
Post by Agnes on May 29th, 2016 at 11:34am

freediver wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 10:24am:
Now they have your phone number marked as a sucker or a tax cheat.

I always with hold my number, never ring an unknown number direct- there are so many scams and many get taken in by  them, I would like to know how many they actually suck in- I think the percentage would be high.

I love the ones the Nigerians used to offer- you have been selected to be the recipient of untold wealth if you just do xxxx.  My mother /sister is sick and is heir/ess to family fortune- they obviously have a good strike rate or why bother. Cost's nothing to send an email.

Title: Re: Scams
Post by Agnes on May 29th, 2016 at 11:39am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:21am:

cods wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:02am:
A lot of people get caught out by this scam (safe link).

I strongly suggest reporting it to Scam Watch.


and the scam link looks like a scam anyway with all the details they want...


It's run by the ACCC, cods.

Are you suggesting that the ACCC is a scam?

And, why are you so concerned about providing your details when reporting a scam - do you have something to hide?

  I think on the internet its prudent to never provide your details- if we are not meant to be able to tell the fraudsters from the real deal especially.  I get suspicious if the police ask for my name and phone number if I am filing a complaint re: nosy partying at 4am.. you have the report now go tend to it!

Title: Re: Scams
Post by greggerypeccary on May 29th, 2016 at 11:41am

Agnes wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:39am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:21am:

cods wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:02am:
A lot of people get caught out by this scam (safe link).

I strongly suggest reporting it to Scam Watch.


and the scam link looks like a scam anyway with all the details they want...


It's run by the ACCC, cods.

Are you suggesting that the ACCC is a scam?

And, why are you so concerned about providing your details when reporting a scam - do you have something to hide?

  I think on the internet its prudent to never provide your details-


Actually, it doesn't ask for your details.

https://www.scamwatch.gov.au/report-a-scam

Title: Re: Scams
Post by greggerypeccary on May 29th, 2016 at 11:44am

Agnes wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:39am:
I get suspicious if the police ask for my name and phone number if I am filing a complaint


What are you suspicious of?

What do you think might happen?


Title: Re: Scams
Post by greggerypeccary on May 29th, 2016 at 11:48am

Another scam to be careful of.

Scam doing the rounds.

Title: Re: Scams
Post by freediver on May 29th, 2016 at 11:53am

Redmond Neck wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:02am:
What now begs the question is why do they use this recorded message  and then dont speak to you if the call back number is dodgy, unless they are waiting to hear you speak and in my case I didnt?

Dunno?


Because getting a computer to talk to you is even cheaper than an Indian call centre.

Title: Re: Scams
Post by Redneck on May 29th, 2016 at 12:26pm

freediver wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:53am:

Redmond Neck wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:02am:
What now begs the question is why do they use this recorded message  and then dont speak to you if the call back number is dodgy, unless they are waiting to hear you speak and in my case I didnt?

Dunno?


Because getting a computer to talk to you is even cheaper than an Indian call centre.


I realise that!

You didnt answer my question

After the message which contained a dodgy Sydney number to call (that doesnt answer) it just hung up . Was it hoping to detect a computer or my voice or something and then put the dodgy Indian on to speak to me...Weird!

Title: Re: Scams
Post by GordyL on May 29th, 2016 at 12:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:02am:
A lot of people get caught out by this scam (safe link).

I strongly suggest reporting it to Scam Watch.


Here's an even worse one http://tinylink.net/iI65H (safe link)

Title: Re: Scams
Post by Agnes on May 29th, 2016 at 12:57pm

Redmond Neck wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 12:26pm:

freediver wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:53am:

Redmond Neck wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 11:02am:
What now begs the question is why do they use this recorded message  and then dont speak to you if the call back number is dodgy, unless they are waiting to hear you speak and in my case I didnt?

Dunno?


Because getting a computer to talk to you is even cheaper than an Indian call centre.


I realise that!

You didnt answer my question

After the message which contained a dodgy Sydney number to call (that doesnt answer) it just hung up . Was it hoping to detect a computer or my voice or something and then put the dodgy Indian on to speak to me...Weird!

   That happens to me a bit too Red- rings and no one answers- I think they are just computers ringing random numbers to detect which numbers actually answer- collecting data for future reference .

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