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Title: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by bogarde73 on May 23rd, 2016 at 1:28pm
Or an anti-Christ?
The Pope has hailed the election of Sadiq Khan as “Muslim” mayor of London, claimed mass Muslim migration is “necessary” for Europe, and blamed Paris and Brussels for the attacks on European soil. In an interview with French newspaper La Croix, Pope Francis strongly implied that the terrorists who attacked Paris and Brussels did so because they “grew up in a ghetto.” He also applauded the election of Muslim mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, stating it “illustrates the need for Europe to rediscover its capacity to integrate,” evoking “Pope Gregory the Great, who negotiated with the people known as barbarians who were subsequently integrated.” However, the situation of mass Muslim migration that Europe now faces is distinctly different: the “barbarians” (the term referring in this case to Franks, Lombards and Visigoths) were Europeans, and did not follow a religion which historically, violently, conquered dozens of countries and preached supremacy. Even today, the Muslim country Indonesia is currently committing what has been widely described as a genocide against Christian West Papuans with mass migration, violence and the banning of Papuan nationalism. Pope Francis also claimed Europe’s declining birth rate is a “grave problem” that makes mass Muslim migration “necessary.” He described this “demographic emptiness” as a result of “a selfish search for well-being.” The Pope stated that Muslims and Christians need to learn to live peacefully together, citing Lebanon as a good example of this. Though Lebanon is perhaps not the best illustration for the Pontiff to draw upon. Lebanon was a majority Christian country up until the 1960s. In the 1970s, after an influx of Muslim refugees, tens of thousands of Christians were ethnically cleansed from the country. Since 2005 there have been as many as 14 terrorist attacks a year in Lebanon, and the UK government’s travel advice on Lebanon advises against traveling to certain parts of the country as there is a “high threat from terrorism.” Pope Francis criticised France’s “exaggeration” of the separation of church and state, expressing disapproval of the country’s ban on the niqab in public places. This type of veil has been banned in Muslim-majority countries Azerbaijan and Chad. Polls show the vast majority of people in Islamic countries, apart from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, widely disapprove of the garment. Suggesting that the fear of migration in Europe is partly based on a fear of Islam, Pope Francis was asked whether he felt that such fears are justified. He said he didn’t think that “there is a fear of Islam as such but of [Islamic State] and its war of conquest, which is partly drawn from Islam.” “It is true that the idea of conquest is inherent in the soul of Islam. However, it is also possible to interpret the objective in Matthew’s Gospel, where Jesus sends his disciples to all nations, in terms of the same idea of conquest,” the Pope said (Breitbart) |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Marla on May 23rd, 2016 at 1:33pm
Zzzzz...Zzzzz...Zzzzz
More Reich-wing paranoia rhetoric. |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by bogarde73 on May 23rd, 2016 at 3:03pm
I read that a noted Vatican reporter has said this Pope has a strong dislike of America and Americans. It's a South American thing.
You should have a lot in common with him Marla. |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Bojack Horseman on May 23rd, 2016 at 6:20pm
Yes he has to be Catholic to be pope
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Lisa Jones on May 23rd, 2016 at 6:25pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 6:20pm:
Yep. But that doesn't make him a Christian. |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by mothra on May 23rd, 2016 at 6:48pm Lisa Jones wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 6:25pm:
Yes. It does. Jesus ... ;D |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by it_is_the_light on May 23rd, 2016 at 7:01pm
the current pope francis is openly jesuit.. a freemason
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Jesus Society of Jesus From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia "Jesuit" redirects here. For the punk band, see Jesuit (band). For the personal philosophy encompassing the moral teachings of Jesus, see Jesuism. "Black Robes" redirects here. For other uses, see Black robe. See also: Suppression of the Society of Jesus The Society of Jesus (Latin: Societas Iesu, S.J., SJ or SI) is a male religious congregation of the Catholic Church. The members are called Jesuits. The society is engaged in evangelization and apostolic ministry in 112 nations on six continents. Jesuits work in education (founding schools, colleges, universities and seminaries), intellectual research, and cultural pursuits. Jesuits also give retreats, minister in hospitals and parishes, and promote social justice and ecumenical dialogue. Ignatius of Loyola founded the society after being wounded in battle and experiencing a religious conversion. He composed the Spiritual Exercises to help others follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. In 1534, Ignatius and six other young men, including Francis Xavier and Peter Faber, gathered and professed vows of poverty, chastity, and later obedience, including a special vow of obedience to the Pope in matters of mission direction and assignment. Ignatius's plan of the order's organization was approved by Pope Paul III in 1540 by a bull containing the "Formula of the Institute". Ignatius was a nobleman who had a military background, and the members of the society were supposed to accept orders anywhere in the world, where they might be required to live in extreme conditions. Accordingly, the opening lines of the founding document declared that the Society was founded for "whoever desires to serve as a soldier of God[1] (Spanish: "todo el que quiera militar para Dios"),[2] to strive especially for the defense and propagation of the faith and for the progress of souls in Christian life and doctrine."[3] Jesuits are thus sometimes referred to colloquially as "God's Soldiers",[4] "God's Marines", or "the Company", references to Ignatius' history as a soldier and the society's commitment to accepting orders anywhere and to endure any conditions.[5] The Society participated in the Counter-Reformation and, later, in the implementation of the Second Vatican Council. The Society of Jesus is consecrated under the patronage of Madonna Della Strada, a title of the Blessed Virgin Mary, and it is led by a Superior General, currently Adolfo Nicolás.[6][7] The headquarters of the society, its General Curia, is in Rome.[8] The historic curia of St. Ignatius is now part of the Collegio del Gesù attached to the Church of the Gesù, the Jesuit Mother Church. In 2013, Jorge Mario Bergoglio became the first Jesuit Pope, taking the name Pope Francis. [img]http://www.thenewstribe.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/vt-24.jpg[/img] |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by it_is_the_light on May 23rd, 2016 at 7:05pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 6:20pm:
incorrect he is a jesuit .. you are forgiven for repeating non sense and overlooking fact , yes you simply repeat yet fear not do not be a victim or feel ashamed , ye are simply exposed and forgiven so rejoice in this now moment for the creator is with thee so be at peace namaste |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by it_is_the_light on May 23rd, 2016 at 7:07pm |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Lisa Jones on May 23rd, 2016 at 7:34pm mothra wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 6:48pm:
No it doesn't. |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Lisa Jones on May 23rd, 2016 at 7:36pm it_is_the_light wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 7:05pm:
Ummm Light, a Jesuit IS Catholic. ::) |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by mothra on May 23rd, 2016 at 7:42pm Lisa Jones wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 7:34pm:
Yes it does. God you're ridiculous. Catholicism is a branch of Christianity . |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Lisa Jones on May 23rd, 2016 at 7:44pm mothra wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 7:42pm:
Nope. Just because a person is Catholic, that does NOT make them a Christian. |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by mothra on May 23rd, 2016 at 7:55pm Lisa Jones wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 7:44pm:
You're out of your mind. Or what remains of it. |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Lisa Jones on May 23rd, 2016 at 7:57pm mothra wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 7:55pm:
Coming from you, I can only take that as a compliment. And just because a person is Catholic, that in itself does NOT make them a Christian. Fact! |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by mothra on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:14pm Lisa Jones wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 7:57pm:
What does it make them Lisa? You can't be a Catholic without being a Christian, for crying out loud. |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Lisa Jones on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:19pm mothra wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:14pm:
Oh yes you can. |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Leftwinger on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:27pm Lisa Jones wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 6:25pm:
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by mothra on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:28pm
Any chance of you actually explaining yourself Lisa?
Or are you just holding your breath until you turn blue? |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Mr Hammer on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:29pm
There's plenty of difference in Christianity as there is in Islam.
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Lisa Jones on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:30pm Its time wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:27pm:
Yep. |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Lisa Jones on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:30pm Mr Hammer wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:29pm:
Shhhhhh. ;D |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Lisa Jones on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:32pm mothra wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:28pm:
Not sure if I can be bothered. |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by John Smith on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:32pm
Is the Pope a Catholic?
Are the libs corrupt? |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by mothra on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:33pm Lisa Jones wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:30pm:
Who said there wasn't difference within Christianity? |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Mr Hammer on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:34pm Lisa Jones wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:30pm:
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by mothra on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:35pm Lisa Jones wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:32pm:
So that's a "no" then. Catholics are a type of Christian. |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by mothra on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:37pm Mr Hammer wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:34pm:
I never said they did. I am merely saying that Catholics are a type of Christian . Do you disagree? |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Leftwinger on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:38pm Lisa Jones wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:32pm:
A wise man once said Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt. It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Lisa Jones on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:38pm Mr Hammer wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:34pm:
Correct! |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by it_is_the_light on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:39pm Lisa Jones wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 7:36pm:
incorrect you are forgiven for repeatisms .. namaste |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Lisa Jones on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:40pm
Just because a person is Catholic, that does NOT make them a Christian.
Remember that. Good night :) |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by mothra on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:40pm Lisa Jones wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:38pm:
Except nothing I have said and a whole lot I haven't is mentioned in Hamlet's post. |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by it_is_the_light on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:40pm Lisa Jones wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 7:57pm:
and just because a person is a jesuit , ( the current pope francis is a jesuit ) whom has taken an oath , does not make them catholic ... FACT .. prove your supposition if you have the care yet either way be at peace namaste |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Mr Hammer on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:42pm mothra wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:37pm:
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Mr Hammer on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:42pm
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by John Smith on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:43pm Lisa Jones wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:40pm:
you are right, catholics are Buddhists :D :D |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by mothra on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:44pm Mr Hammer wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:42pm:
You suppose you disagree? And of course ISIS are Muslim. When have i ever said they weren't? |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Lisa Jones on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:46pm it_is_the_light wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:39pm:
You should think about forgiving yourself for that. |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by mothra on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:46pm Lisa Jones wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:40pm:
Just hilarious. Talk about digging yourself a hole youre too crazy to try and ask for help out of. |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Lisa Jones on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:48pm Mr Hammer wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:42pm:
You want to hang around and keep the ignorant entertained? |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Lisa Jones on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:49pm
I'll check back tomorrow to see what nonsense is posted.
My foot rubbing session with my hubby awaits :P ;) |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by it_is_the_light on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:50pm Lisa Jones wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:46pm:
ok then , prove a jesuit is a catholic .. where is the text in oath the fact is you have no idea what a jesuit is .. and so , you are forgiven namaste |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Mr Hammer on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:53pm Lisa Jones wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:49pm:
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by it_is_the_light on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:53pm mothra wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:44pm:
incorrect ISIS is an aspect of the divine feminine .. [img]https://mysticmedusa.com/wp-content/uploads/Isis-the-Goddess.jpg[/img] why would they get everyone talking about isis as the devil many fail to see the false flag and merely repeat tell lie vision |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Sir Bobby on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:56pm
Dear master Light,
ye hath forgotten that the Pope was the leader of holy Inquisition - one of the darkest times of human history. |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Sir Bobby on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:56pm
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by John Smith on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:58pm Lisa Jones wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:49pm:
I didn't know he was a farrier ... didn't you say he was an accountant? |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Leftwinger on May 23rd, 2016 at 9:47pm John Smith wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:58pm:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Lisa Jones on May 24th, 2016 at 12:40pm Mr Hammer wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:53pm:
Sensual???? It's the only way I can unwind and relax. He likes it when I'm like that :P |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by it_is_the_light on May 24th, 2016 at 6:36pm Bobby. wrote on May 23rd, 2016 at 8:56pm:
many blessings sir bobby you think the inquisition has ended ... ever heard of the magistrates court ? the inquisition continues and many cant see forgiven namaste |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Sir Bobby on May 24th, 2016 at 6:44pm it_is_the_light wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 6:36pm:
The Inquisition has been resurrected but now the priests are on trial for bum banging. |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Ajax on May 24th, 2016 at 6:57pm
I don't know if he's a catholic but he sure is a man like the rest of us.
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by Bojack Horseman on May 24th, 2016 at 8:45pm Ajax wrote on May 24th, 2016 at 6:57pm:
Worst photoshop EVAH |
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Title: Re: Is the Pope a Catholic? Post by mothra on May 24th, 2016 at 10:51pm
Did Lisa explain why Catholics aren't Christians yet?
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