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Message started by Greens_Win on May 18th, 2016 at 7:45am

Title: Labor Split Over State Of Palestine
Post by Greens_Win on May 18th, 2016 at 7:45am
Labor is echoing calls for a "two-state solution" in the conflict, but there is plenty of international debate over how that outcome can be achieved after years of frustrated attempts. Sweden, for example, has decided to officially recognise the state of Palestine.

Labor might do the same. While the party wants a negotiated settlement, Labor has warned if there is no progress in the next round of the peace process, "a future Labor government will discuss joining like-minded nations who have already recognised Palestine".

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2016/election-2016-how-a-change-of-government-in-australia-might-change-the-world-20160517-gowusn.html


And Mr Feeney questioned the push for a national conference resolution, which will be led by NSW frontbencher Tony Burke after discussions with Mr Shorten, for a future Labor government to recognise Palestine as a state in the absence of progress towards a two-state solution.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/shadow-minister-david-feeney-lashes-tanya-plibersek-and-the-left-over-palestine-same-sex-marriage-20150429-1mvuko.html


Then we have Palestinian haters in the Labor Party

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1463275950


Can we really trust Labor on Palestine?

Title: Re: Labor Split Over State Of Palestine
Post by John Smith on May 18th, 2016 at 7:51am
I think you're losing the plot this year green slime .... you think the general public cares about the Palestinians?




meanwhile you greens can keep supporting terrorists, that the public does care about.

Title: Re: Labor Split Over State Of Palestine
Post by Greens_Win on May 18th, 2016 at 7:55am
Will Labor try and protect the jewish vote, by backflipping on the State of Palestine ... and so push more ex labs towards the Greens?

Title: Re: Labor Split Over State Of Palestine
Post by Greens_Win on May 18th, 2016 at 8:21am
Does recognising the State of Palestine mean Labor hates Israel .... like some labor supporters have said about others who support the two state solution?

Title: Re: Labor Split Over State Of Palestine
Post by Grendel on May 18th, 2016 at 11:21am
There is no state of Palestine.  There never has been.
There are no Palestinians historically.
What we have is a myth a made up identity and a made up country.
The Mandate of Palestine, that was administered by the British was split up and all the tribes that lived there are still there and the State of Israel was established as a homeland for the Jews.  After all they lived there too.
The Mandate is Now Jordan and Israel.
If Arabs want a homeland its called Jordan and already exists.

Title: Re: Labor Split Over State Of Palestine
Post by Greens_Win on May 18th, 2016 at 12:18pm
Labor calls for recognition of a Palestinian state


NSW Labor's state conference has passed a motion calling for a Labor government to recognise a Palestinian state and deploring the tragic conflict in Gaza and the death of civilians

http://www.smh.com.au/world/labor-calls-for-recognition-of-a-palestinian-state-20140726-zx7vp.html

Labor is planning on one in the future.



Is Labor anti Israel?

Title: Re: Labor Split Over State Of Palestine
Post by juliar on May 18th, 2016 at 12:25pm
Labor is the Party of disunity that fights amongst themselves like hyenas fighting over a putrid rotting carcass.





A normal day in Labor land

Title: Re: Labor Split Over State Of Palestine
Post by GordyL on May 18th, 2016 at 12:28pm
I also support a Palestinian state, shock horror?

I also support condemning HAMAS for using human shields, I support the condemnation of just about every Arab state using the Palistinans as a proxy war to annoy Israel so they can fetishise and get their little Muzzie rocks off.

Title: Re: Labor Split Over State Of Palestine
Post by Leftwinger on May 18th, 2016 at 12:34pm

juliar wrote on May 18th, 2016 at 12:25pm:
Labor is the Party of disunity that fights amongst themselves like hyenas fighting over a putrid rotting carcass.





A normal day in Labor land


Ms Mirrabellas corpse getting shredded by her own  ;D

Title: Re: Labor Split Over State Of Palestine
Post by juliar on May 18th, 2016 at 4:25pm
Labor is split between red and green with probably a touch of brown thrown in.

Title: Re: Labor Split Over State Of Palestine
Post by sir prince duke alevine on May 18th, 2016 at 5:52pm
typical regressive left idiot Greens. Recognising the state of Palestine at this time will legitimise a no longer democratically elected government formed of ultra right religious islamist Hamas.  All you will do is continue the conflict in the Middle East as Hamas continues its defense strategy of trying to kill every Jewish person and destroying the Israel state. And all you will do is bring about ultra right wing social policies upon the people of Palestine.

Well done to the idiot regressive left Greens. Not only do you not understand what Nabka represents in the eyes of Palestinean people, but you also don't understand how a policy of 'hugging' Hamas is actually the most dangerous thing you can do. 

Title: Re: Labor Split Over State Of Palestine
Post by Baronvonrort on May 18th, 2016 at 5:54pm
We have been giving the Palestinians about $1million a week in foreign aid, if we don't recognise Palestine who are we giving this money to?

Title: Re: Labor Split Over State Of Palestine
Post by Leftwinger on May 18th, 2016 at 6:23pm

Baronvonrort wrote on May 18th, 2016 at 5:54pm:
We have been giving the Palestinians about $1million a week in foreign aid, if we don't recognise Palestine who are we giving this money to?


Good question

Title: Re: Labor Split Over State Of Palestine
Post by Baronvonrort on May 18th, 2016 at 6:53pm

Its time wrote on May 18th, 2016 at 6:23pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on May 18th, 2016 at 5:54pm:
We have been giving the Palestinians about $1million a week in foreign aid, if we don't recognise Palestine who are we giving this money to?


Good question


Foreign aid is taking money from poor people in wealthy countries and giving it to wealthy people in poor countries.

We should end all foreign aid except in case of disaster relief in emergencies.

Title: Re: Labor Split Over State Of Palestine
Post by sir prince duke alevine on May 18th, 2016 at 7:07pm

Baronvonrort wrote on May 18th, 2016 at 6:53pm:

Its time wrote on May 18th, 2016 at 6:23pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on May 18th, 2016 at 5:54pm:
We have been giving the Palestinians about $1million a week in foreign aid, if we don't recognise Palestine who are we giving this money to?


Good question


Foreign aid is taking money from poor people in wealthy countries and giving it to wealthy people in poor countries.

We should end all foreign aid except in case of disaster relief in emergencies.

in the case of Hamas I have no doubt that money sent for 'aid' ends up being spent on their defensive strategy of shooting rockets into Israel.  Or into implementing a religious state where women can be killed for being raped.

And the Greens support this. Shame on the Greens.

Title: Re: Labor Split Over State Of Palestine
Post by Andrei.Hicks on May 18th, 2016 at 7:12pm
"Palestine" is not a state.

At least be correct in your views - no matter how idiotic they might be.

It's a designated authority run by two factions - one in Gaza run by a designated and listed terrorist organization.

The other in a disputed zone run by Fatah. Who at least give a semblance of a two state solution, unlike the lunatics in Gaza.

However in the vote in the UN, "Palestine" as a fully fledged state was vetoed by the United States (with the support of Australia as a NO vote).

Title: Re: Labor Split Over State Of Palestine
Post by sir prince duke alevine on May 18th, 2016 at 7:38pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 18th, 2016 at 7:12pm:
"Palestine" is not a state.

At least be correct in your views - no matter how idiotic they might be.

It's a designated authority run by two factions - one in Gaza run by a designated and listed terrorist organization.

The other in a disputed zone run by Fatah. Who at least give a semblance of a two state solution, unlike the lunatics in Gaza.

However in the vote in the UN, "Palestine" as a fully fledged state was vetoed by the United States (with the support of Australia as a NO vote).


And rightly so. Palestine should not be officially recognised as a state until such time as the extreme religious terrorist fanatics cease control of any government.

Why would the Greens want to support extremist religious fanatics to form a government and to create a constitution that denies liberal ideals?  Why would the Greens support right wing fascism? Is it all just for a feel good moment?

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