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Message started by Bam on May 17th, 2016 at 9:39pm

Title: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by Bam on May 17th, 2016 at 9:39pm
Magic mushrooms lift severe depression in clinical trial (Excerpt - click link for full article)

Quote:
Magic mushrooms have lifted severe depression in a dozen volunteers in a clinical trial, raising scientists’ hopes that the psychedelic experiences beloved of the Aztecs and the hippy counter-culture of the 1970s could one day become mainstream medicine.

A clinical trial, which took years and significant money to complete due to the stringent regulatory restrictions imposed around the class 1 drug, has found that two doses of psilocybin, the active substance in the mushrooms, was sufficient to lift resistant depression in all 12 volunteers for three weeks, and to keep it away in five of them for three months.

The size of the trial and the absence of any placebo means the research, funded by the Medical Research Council and published in the Lancet Psychiatry journal (pdf), is a proof of principle only.

The scientists, from Imperial College London, said they hoped the results would encourage the MRC or other funders to put up the money needed for a full trial. However, the use of a placebo control, comparing those who use the drug with those who do not, will always be difficult, because it will be obvious who is having a psychedelic experience.

In spite of the outcome, the researchers urged people not to try magic mushrooms themselves.

The lead author, Dr Robin Carhart-Harris, said: “Psychedelic drugs have potent psychological effects and are only given in our research when appropriate safeguards are in place, such as careful screening and professional therapeutic support.

“I wouldn’t want members of the public thinking they can treat their own depressions by picking their own magic mushrooms. That kind of approach could be risky.”

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by The Grappler on May 17th, 2016 at 10:55pm
They can be a good cure for sanity........

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by Ashley on May 17th, 2016 at 11:15pm
Throw some mothra's way ;D .

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by AiA on May 17th, 2016 at 11:18pm
I took Psilocybin Mushrooms several times last year. One of those experiences was ... there aren't words that can really describe it ... it was incredibly helpful.

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by innocentbystander. on May 17th, 2016 at 11:20pm
Not sure about magic mushies but there is some ongoing research into the positive effects of MDMA / ecstasy in treating depression and also PTSD.

I'm more interested in the actual cause of depression more so than the cure, where does depression come from, almost all of our actions are evolutionary in nature but where does depression fit into this big picture, what is the evolutionary advantage of depression, why does depression exist, what evolutionary advantage or disadvantage does it provide.    


Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by GordyL on May 17th, 2016 at 11:21pm
I lived in Mullimbimby for a year.  Can someone tell me what happened,?

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by GordyL on May 17th, 2016 at 11:23pm

innocentbystander. wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:20pm:
Not sure about magic mushies but there is some ongoing research into the positive effects of MDMA / ecstasy in treating depression and also PTSD.

I'm more interested in the actual cause of depression more so than the cure, where does depression come from, almost all of our actions are evolutionary in nature but where does depression fit into this big picture, what is the evolutionary advantage of depression, why does depression exist, what evolutionary advantage or disadvantage does it provide.    


I've also read a paper about evolutionary advantages to having a % of the population homosexual.

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by AiA on May 17th, 2016 at 11:26pm

GordyL wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:23pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:20pm:
Not sure about magic mushies but there is some ongoing research into the positive effects of MDMA / ecstasy in treating depression and also PTSD.

I'm more interested in the actual cause of depression more so than the cure, where does depression come from, almost all of our actions are evolutionary in nature but where does depression fit into this big picture, what is the evolutionary advantage of depression, why does depression exist, what evolutionary advantage or disadvantage does it provide.    


I've also read a paper about evolutionary advantages to having a % of the population homosexual.


An unusually high percentage of that population is right here at OP. There must be some evolutionary advantages to that as well.

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by innocentbystander. on May 17th, 2016 at 11:32pm

GordyL wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:23pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:20pm:
Not sure about magic mushies but there is some ongoing research into the positive effects of MDMA / ecstasy in treating depression and also PTSD.

I'm more interested in the actual cause of depression more so than the cure, where does depression come from, almost all of our actions are evolutionary in nature but where does depression fit into this big picture, what is the evolutionary advantage of depression, why does depression exist, what evolutionary advantage or disadvantage does it provide.    


I've also read a paper about evolutionary advantages to having a % of the population homosexual.



Evolution is constantly throwing out new scenarios just in case they work, homos, pedos, muslims, leftards, the list is endless, mother nature, cruel and heartless bitch that she is introduces all of these pathways and then leaves it to the rest of us to fight it out in order to decide which one is the one true path.   

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by GordyL on May 17th, 2016 at 11:36pm

innocentbystander. wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:32pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:23pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:20pm:
Not sure about magic mushies but there is some ongoing research into the positive effects of MDMA / ecstasy in treating depression and also PTSD.

I'm more interested in the actual cause of depression more so than the cure, where does depression come from, almost all of our actions are evolutionary in nature but where does depression fit into this big picture, what is the evolutionary advantage of depression, why does depression exist, what evolutionary advantage or disadvantage does it provide.    


I've also read a paper about evolutionary advantages to having a % of the population homosexual.



Evolution is constantly throwing out new scenarios just in case they work, homos, pedos, muslims, leftards, the list is endless, mother nature, cruel and heartless bitch that she is introduces all of these pathways and then leaves it to the rest of us to fight it out in order to decide which one is the one true path.   


Have a read about evolutionary advantage and homosexuals.  Interesting.  It's ok to understand it, you won't suddenly get the urge to Suck cocks.

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by AiA on May 17th, 2016 at 11:44pm

GordyL wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:36pm:
It's ok to understand it, you won't suddenly get the urge to Suck cocks.


You say that but several members here were never the same after they watched Brokeback Mountain ...

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by mothra on May 17th, 2016 at 11:47pm
All tribal societies have had psychotropics. It's part of our DNA.

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by Ashley on May 17th, 2016 at 11:49pm

mothra wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:47pm:
All tribal societies have had psychotropics. It's part of our DNA.


Rubbish.

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by Ashley on May 17th, 2016 at 11:50pm

AiA wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:44pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:36pm:
It's ok to understand it, you won't suddenly get the urge to Suck cocks.


You say that but several members here were never the same after they watched Brokeback Mountain ...


Greg ?

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by AiA on May 17th, 2016 at 11:50pm

Ashley wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:49pm:

mothra wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:47pm:
All tribal societies have had psychotropics. It's part of our DNA.


Rubbish.


even animals have been observed eating psychotropics in the wild ...

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by mothra on May 17th, 2016 at 11:51pm

Ashley wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:49pm:

mothra wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:47pm:
All tribal societies have had psychotropics. It's part of our DNA.


Rubbish.




Out of the loop again Ashley?

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by mothra on May 17th, 2016 at 11:52pm

AiA wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:50pm:

Ashley wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:49pm:

mothra wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:47pm:
All tribal societies have had psychotropics. It's part of our DNA.


Rubbish.


even animals have been observed eating psychotropics in the wild ...




Indeed.

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by Ashley on May 17th, 2016 at 11:53pm

mothra wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:51pm:

Ashley wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:49pm:

mothra wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:47pm:
All tribal societies have had psychotropics. It's part of our DNA.


Rubbish.




Out of the loop again Ashley?


Put your horn up to your ear grandma it may help you.

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by mothra on May 17th, 2016 at 11:54pm

Ashley wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:53pm:

mothra wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:51pm:

Ashley wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:49pm:

mothra wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:47pm:
All tribal societies have had psychotropics. It's part of our DNA.


Rubbish.




Out of the loop again Ashley?


Put your horn up to your ear grandma it may help you.



Did you notice yours missing?

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by AiA on May 17th, 2016 at 11:56pm

Ashley wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:50pm:

AiA wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:44pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:36pm:
It's ok to understand it, you won't suddenly get the urge to Suck cocks.


You say that but several members here were never the same after they watched Brokeback Mountain ...


Greg ?


Greg could give an "oral" history. Why don't you ask him?

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by Ashley on May 17th, 2016 at 11:59pm

mothra wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:54pm:

Ashley wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:53pm:

mothra wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:51pm:

Ashley wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:49pm:

mothra wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:47pm:
All tribal societies have had psychotropics. It's part of our DNA.


Rubbish.




Out of the loop again Ashley?


Put your horn up to your ear grandma it may help you.



Did you notice yours missing?


ooo nasty grandma nasty grandma ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by Ashley on May 17th, 2016 at 11:59pm

AiA wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:56pm:

Ashley wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:50pm:

AiA wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:44pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:36pm:
It's ok to understand it, you won't suddenly get the urge to Suck cocks.


You say that but several members here were never the same after they watched Brokeback Mountain ...


Greg ?


Greg could give an "oral" history. Why don't you ask him?


You should know.

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by mothra on May 18th, 2016 at 12:01am

Ashley wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:59pm:

mothra wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:54pm:

Ashley wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:53pm:

mothra wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:51pm:

Ashley wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:49pm:

mothra wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:47pm:
All tribal societies have had psychotropics. It's part of our DNA.


Rubbish.




Out of the loop again Ashley?


Put your horn up to your ear grandma it may help you.



Did you notice yours missing?


ooo nasty grandma nasty grandma ;D ;D ;D



It's impotant to you that people think i;m old. Isn't it?

Why is that Lisa Ashley?

Do you have a monopoly on all of the viable males on here?

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by Ashley on May 18th, 2016 at 12:08am
There's that getting upset over being old and not being viable to men again.

Does this scare you ? It seems to be a nerve that keeps making you respond so desperately.

Calling me lisa for a second time. Are you really that upset grandma cybermothra.

Oh darling you have it bad don't you.

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by AiA on May 18th, 2016 at 12:10am

Ashley wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:59pm:

AiA wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:56pm:

Ashley wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:50pm:

AiA wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:44pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:36pm:
It's ok to understand it, you won't suddenly get the urge to Suck cocks.


You say that but several members here were never the same after they watched Brokeback Mountain ...


Greg ?


Greg could give an "oral" history. Why don't you ask him?


You should know.


No, I stay out of public loos.

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by Ashley on May 18th, 2016 at 12:10am
Maybe you and your blow up hubby could have another 11 month cyberbaby online for ozpol posters like you did on yahoo.

That was bloody hilarious. ;D

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by Ashley on May 18th, 2016 at 12:10am

AiA wrote on May 18th, 2016 at 12:10am:

Ashley wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:59pm:

AiA wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:56pm:

Ashley wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:50pm:

AiA wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:44pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:36pm:
It's ok to understand it, you won't suddenly get the urge to Suck cocks.


You say that but several members here were never the same after they watched Brokeback Mountain ...


Greg ?


Greg could give an "oral" history. Why don't you ask him?


You should know.


No, I stay out of public loos.


;D Sure sure.

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by mothra on May 18th, 2016 at 12:11am

Ashley wrote on May 18th, 2016 at 12:08am:
There's that getting upset over being old and not being viable to men again.

Does this scare you ? It seems to be a nerve that keeps making you respond so desperately.

Calling me lisa for a second time. Are you really that upset grandma cybermothra.

Oh darling you have it bad don't you.




You're just embarrassing yourself Lisa Ashley.

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by GordyL on May 18th, 2016 at 12:16am

AiA wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:56pm:

Ashley wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:50pm:

AiA wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:44pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:36pm:
It's ok to understand it, you won't suddenly get the urge to Suck cocks.


You say that but several members here were never the same after they watched Brokeback Mountain ...


Greg ?


Greg could give an "oral" history. Why don't you ask him?


Leave Greg alone.  He's recuperating

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/first-us-penis-transplant-performed-on-cancer-victim/news-story/5e7bf1f01ef9b189655234f865f2cfc5

https://www.theguardian.com/science/video/2016/may/16/penis-video-transplant-surgery-thomas-manning

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by Ashley on May 18th, 2016 at 12:18am

mothra wrote on May 18th, 2016 at 12:11am:

Ashley wrote on May 18th, 2016 at 12:08am:
There's that getting upset over being old and not being viable to men again.

Does this scare you ? It seems to be a nerve that keeps making you respond so desperately.

Calling me lisa for a second time. Are you really that upset grandma cybermothra.

Oh darling you have it bad don't you.




You're just embarrassing yourself Lisa Ashley.


Not really because I am not Setty. Three times the clown you are.

Feel free to make a continual fool of yourself though. No different to you making one of yourself on yahoo (grandma). ;D

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by AiA on May 18th, 2016 at 12:18am

GordyL wrote on May 18th, 2016 at 12:16am:

AiA wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:56pm:

Ashley wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:50pm:

AiA wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:44pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:36pm:
It's ok to understand it, you won't suddenly get the urge to Suck cocks.


You say that but several members here were never the same after they watched Brokeback Mountain ...


Greg ?


Greg could give an "oral" history. Why don't you ask him?


Leave Greg alone.  He's recuperating

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/first-us-penis-transplant-performed-on-cancer-victim/news-story/5e7bf1f01ef9b189655234f865f2cfc5

https://www.theguardian.com/science/video/2016/may/16/penis-video-transplant-surgery-thomas-manning


Good for Greg. He will now have both the length and girth he always wished for.

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by GordyL on May 18th, 2016 at 12:39am

AiA wrote on May 18th, 2016 at 12:18am:

GordyL wrote on May 18th, 2016 at 12:16am:

AiA wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:56pm:

Ashley wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:50pm:

AiA wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:44pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:36pm:
It's ok to understand it, you won't suddenly get the urge to Suck cocks.


You say that but several members here were never the same after they watched Brokeback Mountain ...


Greg ?


Greg could give an "oral" history. Why don't you ask him?


Leave Greg alone.  He's recuperating

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/first-us-penis-transplant-performed-on-cancer-victim/news-story/5e7bf1f01ef9b189655234f865f2cfc5

https://www.theguardian.com/science/video/2016/may/16/penis-video-transplant-surgery-thomas-manning


Good for Greg. He will now have both the length and girth he always wished for.


Just hope he doesn't get this one bitten off in a public toilet.  I doubt they'll sew yet another one on.

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by Setanta on May 18th, 2016 at 6:38am

GordyL wrote on May 18th, 2016 at 12:16am:

AiA wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:56pm:

Ashley wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:50pm:

AiA wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:44pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:36pm:
It's ok to understand it, you won't suddenly get the urge to Suck cocks.


You say that but several members here were never the same after they watched Brokeback Mountain ...


Greg ?


Greg could give an "oral" history. Why don't you ask him?


Leave Greg alone.  He's recuperating

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/first-us-penis-transplant-performed-on-cancer-victim/news-story/5e7bf1f01ef9b189655234f865f2cfc5

https://www.theguardian.com/science/video/2016/may/16/penis-video-transplant-surgery-thomas-manning


One of the doctors names is Dicken Ko? ;D

Thomas Manning should change his name to John Tomas Manning.

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by it_is_the_light on May 18th, 2016 at 9:50am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe5McSoeb_c

Jordan Maxwell "Moses Manna From God, Which Saved The Israelites, May Have Been Magic Mushrooms!"


Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by Laugh till you cry on May 18th, 2016 at 11:24am

GordyL wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:36pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:32pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:23pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:20pm:
Not sure about magic mushies but there is some ongoing research into the positive effects of MDMA / ecstasy in treating depression and also PTSD.

I'm more interested in the actual cause of depression more so than the cure, where does depression come from, almost all of our actions are evolutionary in nature but where does depression fit into this big picture, what is the evolutionary advantage of depression, why does depression exist, what evolutionary advantage or disadvantage does it provide.    


I've also read a paper about evolutionary advantages to having a % of the population homosexual.



Evolution is constantly throwing out new scenarios just in case they work, homos, pedos, muslims, leftards, the list is endless, mother nature, cruel and heartless bitch that she is introduces all of these pathways and then leaves it to the rest of us to fight it out in order to decide which one is the one true path.   


Have a read about evolutionary advantage and homosexuals.  Interesting.  It's ok to understand it, you won't suddenly get the urge to Suck cocks.


GordyL sticks his big toe out of the closet.

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by issuevoter on May 18th, 2016 at 11:35am
If you are going to try Magic Mushrooms, I suggest you have a roll of toilet paper handy.

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by GordyL on May 18th, 2016 at 11:44am

Laugh till you cry wrote on May 18th, 2016 at 11:24am:

GordyL wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:36pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:32pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:23pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:20pm:
Not sure about magic mushies but there is some ongoing research into the positive effects of MDMA / ecstasy in treating depression and also PTSD.

I'm more interested in the actual cause of depression more so than the cure, where does depression come from, almost all of our actions are evolutionary in nature but where does depression fit into this big picture, what is the evolutionary advantage of depression, why does depression exist, what evolutionary advantage or disadvantage does it provide.    


I've also read a paper about evolutionary advantages to having a % of the population homosexual.



Evolution is constantly throwing out new scenarios just in case they work, homos, pedos, muslims, leftards, the list is endless, mother nature, cruel and heartless bitch that she is introduces all of these pathways and then leaves it to the rest of us to fight it out in order to decide which one is the one true path.   


Have a read about evolutionary advantage and homosexuals.  Interesting.  It's ok to understand it, you won't suddenly get the urge to Suck cocks.


GordyL sticks his big toe out of the closet.


Nope,  I'm a left wing pro gay racist. 
I live in East Subs sydney and often work with media art ent crowd,  if I was going to come out of the closet I'd be out by now

Title: Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
Post by Laugh till you cry on May 18th, 2016 at 1:15pm

GordyL wrote on May 18th, 2016 at 11:44am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on May 18th, 2016 at 11:24am:

GordyL wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:36pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:32pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:23pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 11:20pm:
Not sure about magic mushies but there is some ongoing research into the positive effects of MDMA / ecstasy in treating depression and also PTSD.

I'm more interested in the actual cause of depression more so than the cure, where does depression come from, almost all of our actions are evolutionary in nature but where does depression fit into this big picture, what is the evolutionary advantage of depression, why does depression exist, what evolutionary advantage or disadvantage does it provide.    


I've also read a paper about evolutionary advantages to having a % of the population homosexual.



Evolution is constantly throwing out new scenarios just in case they work, homos, pedos, muslims, leftards, the list is endless, mother nature, cruel and heartless bitch that she is introduces all of these pathways and then leaves it to the rest of us to fight it out in order to decide which one is the one true path.   


Have a read about evolutionary advantage and homosexuals.  Interesting.  It's ok to understand it, you won't suddenly get the urge to Suck cocks.


GordyL sticks his big toe out of the closet.


Nope,  I'm a left wing pro gay racist. 
I live in East Subs sydney and often work with media art ent crowd,  if I was going to come out of the closet I'd be out by now


The coast is clear. You can now emerge.

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