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Message started by Sir Crook on May 4th, 2016 at 2:57pm

Title: The Dreaded GP Co-Payment Risen From The Grave
Post by Sir Crook on May 4th, 2016 at 2:57pm
GP co-payment by stealth as prescription medicine costs rise   :(
May 4, 2016
Herald Sun

THE dreaded GP co-payment has risen from the grave in the Federal Budget with a doctor’s visit likely to cost up to $39 at the same time as prescription medicine prices rise by $5 from January.

Medicare rebates will be frozen at $37 for six years until 2020 to save the Government nearly $1 billion in a move that is likely to force doctors to abandon bulk billing.   :(


The freeze is expected over time to cost a typical GP over $15,000 a year as they face rising wages bills and rents but no increase in Medicare income.


Former prime minister Tony Abbott declared his unpopular $7 GP co-payment “dead, buried and cremated” in 2014.

This Budget measure, however, is certain to force many GPs to abandon bulk billing and start charging their patients a fee to cover their rising practice costs.   :(

Medicare rules will force GPs to charge patients a full fee upfront and patients will have to claim back the $37 Medicare rebate to offset the charge.


The AMA recommended fee for a doctors visit is $76 and if doctors charge this amount a doctor’s visit could leave patients $39 out of pocket after the Medicare rebate is claimed.

Patients are also likely to face higher out-of-pocket charges for medical specialists as a result of the freeze.

The introduction of doctors charges will be accompanied by a hike in prescription costs with the Government pressing ahead with plans to raise prescription costs by $5 for general consumers from January 1.

Pensioners will face an 80 cent rise in prescription fees on January 1 under the measure which has been blocked by the Senate for two years.

Health Minister Sussan Ley has repeatedly said she does not plan to go ahead with the $5 prescription hike but the Government has not removed it from the Budget and is still counting the savings to reduce its budget deficit. 

These new charges come as patients are already facing a $20 charge for blood tests from July as a result of government cuts to pathology and as cancer patients are expecting $800 fees for scans to diagnose and track the progress of their disease.   :(

Families will also lose access to $1,000 worth of free dental care at their family dental practice with the Government axing the child dental scheme in the Budget to save $1 billion.

Families who want government-funded dental care will instead have to queue at public dental clinics where waiting times can be up to 933 days.   :(

In NSW there are 110,000 people already waiting for public dental care, the wait is 209 days in Victoria, 309 days in Queensland, 260 days in South Australia, 933 days in Tasmania.

Currently one million children are using the dental scheme, Health Minister Sussan Ley says she will be funding 600,000 services for 10 million adults and children.

Aged Care services will also be hit by a $1.2 billion funding cut over the next four years as the government tries to restrict access to higher cost complex care packages.

The Government will also halve the rate at which aged care funding is indexed.

Title: Re: The Dreaded GP Co-Payment Risen From The Grave
Post by John Smith on May 4th, 2016 at 3:24pm
can we freeze politicians pay rises for 6 years?

Title: Re: The Dreaded GP Co-Payment Risen From The Grave
Post by Sir Crook on May 4th, 2016 at 3:45pm
Mr Turnbull we don't like the GP Co-Payment.  Leave Medicare and bulk billing alone.   >:(   

Title: Re: The Dreaded GP Co-Payment Risen From The Grave
Post by Team Froggie on May 4th, 2016 at 3:56pm

John Smith wrote on May 4th, 2016 at 3:24pm:
can we freeze politicians pay rises for 6 years?


Maybe not, but we sure can see some of them dumped t this election.

Too bad we still have to fork out for their pensions.


Title: Re: The Dreaded GP Co-Payment Risen From The Grave
Post by John Smith on May 4th, 2016 at 4:03pm

Lobo wrote on May 4th, 2016 at 3:56pm:

John Smith wrote on May 4th, 2016 at 3:24pm:
can we freeze politicians pay rises for 6 years?


Maybe not, but we sure can see some of them dumped t this election.

Too bad we still have to fork out for their pensions.


still think we should freeze their pay for the same amount of time ...

Title: Re: The Dreaded GP Co-Payment Risen From The Grave
Post by Team Froggie on May 4th, 2016 at 4:14pm

John Smith wrote on May 4th, 2016 at 4:03pm:

Lobo wrote on May 4th, 2016 at 3:56pm:

John Smith wrote on May 4th, 2016 at 3:24pm:
can we freeze politicians pay rises for 6 years?


Maybe not, but we sure can see some of them dumped t this election.

Too bad we still have to fork out for their pensions.


still think we should freeze their pay for the same amount of time ...


I'd go much further.
50% reduction in salary.
Then we would find out just how many of them are there for "the good of the country".


Title: Re: The Dreaded GP Co-Payment Risen From The Grave
Post by LEUT Bigvicfella (RTD) on May 4th, 2016 at 4:26pm
"Pensioners will face an 80 cent rise in prescription fees on January 1 under the measure which has been blocked by the Senate for two years."

I didn't know this was one that Labor were refusing to pass!   Gunna hit some people hard if it goes through

Title: Re: The Dreaded GP Co-Payment Risen From The Grave
Post by gandalf on May 4th, 2016 at 4:46pm
out-bloody-rageous  >:( >:( >:( >:(

Doctors and the AMA should be out there campaigning as hard as they campaigned against the co-payment. They mustn't get away with this.

Title: Re: The Dreaded GP Co-Payment Risen From The Grave
Post by LEUT Bigvicfella (RTD) on May 4th, 2016 at 4:56pm
This is an interesting thing.  In the Abbott/Hockey budget, the $7.00 copayment did not return to the conventional health system.   It went straight to the "Joe Hockey Centre for Medical Excellence and Weight Loss" - it played no part in supporting the actual health system  - more like a research fund.  This time, the copayment just goes to the doctor, which begs the question whether the money saved by freezing the medicare rebate goes into conventional health or in another "Joe Hockey" type research centre?

At least with Hockey, we knew where our 7 bucks was going.  This time it could be for additional helicopters for Coalition MP use

Title: Re: The Dreaded GP Co-Payment Risen From The Grave
Post by Team Froggie on May 4th, 2016 at 5:32pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 4th, 2016 at 4:46pm:
out-bloody-rageous  >:( >:( >:( >:(

Doctors and the AMA should be out there campaigning as hard as they campaigned against the co-payment. They mustn't get away with this.


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Title: Re: The Dreaded GP Co-Payment Risen From The Grave
Post by LEUT Bigvicfella (RTD) on May 5th, 2016 at 7:50am
Remember this comes in on the 1st July Roids.
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Title: Re: The Dreaded GP Co-Payment Risen From The Grave
Post by Armchair_Politician on May 5th, 2016 at 10:27am

Vic wrote on May 5th, 2016 at 7:50am:
Remember this comes in on the 1st July Roids.


I find it hard to take seriously a politician whose logo for his party is a football. :-?

Title: Re: The Dreaded GP Co-Payment Risen From The Grave
Post by John Smith on May 5th, 2016 at 11:35am

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 5th, 2016 at 10:27am:
I find it hard to take seriously a politician whose logo for his party is a football. Huh



admit it, you don't take anyone seriously unless the smelly tells you to

Title: Re: The Dreaded GP Co-Payment Risen From The Grave
Post by LEUT Bigvicfella (RTD) on May 5th, 2016 at 11:39am

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 5th, 2016 at 10:27am:

Vic wrote on May 5th, 2016 at 7:50am:
Remember this comes in on the 1st July Roids.


I find it hard to take seriously a politician whose logo for his party is a football. :-?



OK, that's fair enough.  But personality aside, is what he is saying about health cuts to come on on the 1st of July this year True or False?

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