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Message started by GordyL on Apr 26th, 2016 at 9:09am

Title: Islam vs Secularism
Post by GordyL on Apr 26th, 2016 at 9:09am
Are they the same, or different?   :D :D :D :D :D
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Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2016 at 9:39am

Islamophobia vs Astounding Ignorance

Are they the same, or different?

Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by GordyL on Apr 26th, 2016 at 11:46am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 9:39am:
Islamophobia vs Astounding Ignorance

Are they the same, or different?


Did you know some apostate Muslims ae called Islamophobic by other Muslims.

How bizzare!

Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2016 at 11:49am

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 11:46am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 9:39am:
Islamophobia vs Astounding Ignorance

Are they the same, or different?


Did you know some apostate Muslims ae called Islamophobic by other Muslims.

How bizzare!


Not really bizarre.

Astounding ignorance exists everywhere, even in religion.

In some cases, especially in religion.

Look at ian, for example, and his belief in Scientology.


Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by GordyL on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 11:49am:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 11:46am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 9:39am:
Islamophobia vs Astounding Ignorance

Are they the same, or different?


Did you know some apostate Muslims ae called Islamophobic by other Muslims.

How bizzare!


Not really bizarre.

Astounding ignorance exists everywhere, even in religion.

In some cases, especially in religion.

Look at ian, for example, and his belief in Scientology.


At least there's only 25000 of the silly buggers in the world, 2000 odd in Australia.

I've never heard anyone called a raciest or xyz_phobic for criticizing Scientology. I think both religions are equally a big load of rotting pustulous bullcrap.

If there were 100x the amount of Scientologists in Australia, I'd be posting about their nonsense every day.

Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:12pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:03pm:
I've never heard anyone called a raciest or xyz_phobic for criticizing Scientology. I think both religions are equally a big load of rotting pustulous bullcrap.


So do I, but I don't have an irrational fear or hatred of either of them.

Their religions are silly, but I live and let live.

I'm tolerant.

Islamophobes are intolerant.


Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by GordyL on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:14pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:12pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:03pm:
I've never heard anyone called a raciest or xyz_phobic for criticizing Scientology. I think both religions are equally a big load of rotting pustulous bullcrap.


So do I, but I don't have an irrational fear or hatred of either of them.

Their religions are silly, but I live and let live.

I'm tolerant.

Islamophobes are intolerant.


Do you think there is a fair bit of intolerance within Islam?

Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:15pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:12pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:03pm:
I've never heard anyone called a raciest or xyz_phobic for criticizing Scientology. I think both religions are equally a big load of rotting pustulous bullcrap.


So do I, but I don't have an irrational fear or hatred of either of them.

Their religions are silly, but I live and let live.

I'm tolerant.

Islamophobes are intolerant.


Do you think there is a fair bit of intolerance within Islam?


Absolutely.

All religions have a fair bit of intolerance.

That's no reason for me to hate or fear every Scientologist, Christian, or Muslim on earth, though.

I just choose not to join their religion, and continue to live and let live.


Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by GordyL on Apr 26th, 2016 at 1:59pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:15pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:12pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:03pm:
I've never heard anyone called a raciest or xyz_phobic for criticizing Scientology. I think both religions are equally a big load of rotting pustulous bullcrap.


So do I, but I don't have an irrational fear or hatred of either of them.

Their religions are silly, but I live and let live.

I'm tolerant.

Islamophobes are intolerant.


Do you think there is a fair bit of intolerance within Islam?


Absolutely.

All religions have a fair bit of intolerance.

That's no reason for me to hate or fear every Scientologist, Christian, or Muslim on earth, though.

I just choose not to join their religion, and continue to live and let live.


Look if you prefer the ISIS style burning man over a secular celebration of hedonism and art, that's fine.

Different strokes....

Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2016 at 2:02pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 1:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:15pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:12pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:03pm:
I've never heard anyone called a raciest or xyz_phobic for criticizing Scientology. I think both religions are equally a big load of rotting pustulous bullcrap.


So do I, but I don't have an irrational fear or hatred of either of them.

Their religions are silly, but I live and let live.

I'm tolerant.

Islamophobes are intolerant.


Do you think there is a fair bit of intolerance within Islam?


Absolutely.

All religions have a fair bit of intolerance.

That's no reason for me to hate or fear every Scientologist, Christian, or Muslim on earth, though.

I just choose not to join their religion, and continue to live and let live.


Look if you prefer the ISIS style burning man over a secular celebration of hedonism and art, that's fine.

Different strokes....


I prefer secular celebrations.

I've made that crystal clear:

Gordy: "I think both religions are equally a big load of rotting pustulous bullcrap."

Greg: "So do I".

Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by GordyL on Apr 26th, 2016 at 4:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 2:02pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 1:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:15pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:12pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:03pm:
I've never heard anyone called a raciest or xyz_phobic for criticizing Scientology. I think both religions are equally a big load of rotting pustulous bullcrap.


So do I, but I don't have an irrational fear or hatred of either of them.

Their religions are silly, but I live and let live.

I'm tolerant.

Islamophobes are intolerant.


Do you think there is a fair bit of intolerance within Islam?


Absolutely.

All religions have a fair bit of intolerance.

That's no reason for me to hate or fear every Scientologist, Christian, or Muslim on earth, though.

I just choose not to join their religion, and continue to live and let live.


Look if you prefer the ISIS style burning man over a secular celebration of hedonism and art, that's fine.

Different strokes....


I prefer secular celebrations.

I've made that crystal clear:

Gordy: "I think both religions are equally a big load of rotting pustulous bullcrap."

Greg: "So do I".


I'm sure we have some overlapping views but a very different approach on how to actually deal with them.

I believe Australia should be promoted as a secular immigration destination.

Please bring your yummy food, interesting dances, world music. If you want to wear your burqa or hijab on a cultural holiday, splendid. 

But just know there will be no space made for your sky-daddery nonsense. If that doesn't suit you, put a map of the world on your wall and you'll find more than enough places to accommodate your beliefs.

Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2016 at 5:23pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 4:41pm:
I believe Australia should be promoted as a secular immigration destination.

Please bring your yummy food, interesting dances, world music. If you want to wear your burqa or hijab on a cultural holiday, splendid. 

But just know there will be no space made for your sky-daddery nonsense. If that doesn't suit you, put a map of the world on your wall and you'll find more than enough places to accommodate your beliefs.


I'm fine with that, as long as it applies to all religions.

Agreed?


Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by Honky on Apr 26th, 2016 at 5:51pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 4:41pm:
I believe Australia should be promoted as a secular immigration destination.



I don't believe Australia should be promoted as an anything immigration destination.

We've had decades in a growth phase, but there has been no consolidation phase. 

How do you think another coupla million people, no matter what race or religion, will positively impact your life?

Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by GordyL on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:10pm

... wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 5:51pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 4:41pm:
I believe Australia should be promoted as a secular immigration destination.



I don't believe Australia should be promoted as an anything immigration destination.

We've had decades in a growth phase, but there has been no consolidation phase. 

How do you think another coupla million people, no matter what race or religion, will positively impact your life?


I'll correct my wording and say we should be 'known' as a secular immigration destination. I'm very much in the sustainable population camp.

Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by GordyL on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 5:23pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 4:41pm:
I believe Australia should be promoted as a secular immigration destination.

Please bring your yummy food, interesting dances, world music. If you want to wear your burqa or hijab on a cultural holiday, splendid. 

But just know there will be no space made for your sky-daddery nonsense. If that doesn't suit you, put a map of the world on your wall and you'll find more than enough places to accommodate your beliefs.


I'm fine with that, as long as it applies to all religions.

Agreed?


Absolutely.




Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by freediver on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:15pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:12pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:03pm:
I've never heard anyone called a raciest or xyz_phobic for criticizing Scientology. I think both religions are equally a big load of rotting pustulous bullcrap.


So do I, but I don't have an irrational fear or hatred of either of them.

Their religions are silly, but I live and let live.

I'm tolerant.

Islamophobes are intolerant.


Do you think there is a fair bit of intolerance within Islam?


Absolutely.

All religions have a fair bit of intolerance.

That's no reason for me to hate or fear every Scientologist, Christian, or Muslim on earth, though.

I just choose not to join their religion, and continue to live and let live.


Scientology may be silly, but have they started on mass murder yet? They have a lot of catching up to do if they want to be as 'silly' as Islam.

Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:18pm

freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:15pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:12pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:03pm:
I've never heard anyone called a raciest or xyz_phobic for criticizing Scientology. I think both religions are equally a big load of rotting pustulous bullcrap.


So do I, but I don't have an irrational fear or hatred of either of them.

Their religions are silly, but I live and let live.

I'm tolerant.

Islamophobes are intolerant.


Do you think there is a fair bit of intolerance within Islam?


Absolutely.

All religions have a fair bit of intolerance.

That's no reason for me to hate or fear every Scientologist, Christian, or Muslim on earth, though.

I just choose not to join their religion, and continue to live and let live.


Scientology may be silly, but have they started on mass murder yet?


I wouldn't be surprised.

And even if they have, it wouldn't cause me to hate (or be frightened of) every single Scientologist on the planet.

It's the people who do the killing: not the religions.





Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:18pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:15pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:12pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:03pm:
I've never heard anyone called a raciest or xyz_phobic for criticizing Scientology. I think both religions are equally a big load of rotting pustulous bullcrap.


So do I, but I don't have an irrational fear or hatred of either of them.

Their religions are silly, but I live and let live.

I'm tolerant.

Islamophobes are intolerant.


Do you think there is a fair bit of intolerance within Islam?


Absolutely.

All religions have a fair bit of intolerance.

That's no reason for me to hate or fear every Scientologist, Christian, or Muslim on earth, though.

I just choose not to join their religion, and continue to live and let live.


Scientology may be silly, but have they started on mass murder yet?


I wouldn't be surprised.

And even if they have, it wouldn't cause me to hate (or be frightened of) every single Scientologist on the planet.

It's the people who do the killing: not the religions.
What about if Nazism  was a religion? Would you tolerate the non violent Nazi's?

Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by GordyL on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:22pm

freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:15pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:12pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:03pm:
I've never heard anyone called a raciest or xyz_phobic for criticizing Scientology. I think both religions are equally a big load of rotting pustulous bullcrap.


So do I, but I don't have an irrational fear or hatred of either of them.

Their religions are silly, but I live and let live.

I'm tolerant.

Islamophobes are intolerant.


Do you think there is a fair bit of intolerance within Islam?


Absolutely.

All religions have a fair bit of intolerance.

That's no reason for me to hate or fear every Scientologist, Christian, or Muslim on earth, though.

I just choose not to join their religion, and continue to live and let live.


Scientology may be silly, but have they started on mass murder yet? They have a lot of catching up to do if they want to be as 'silly' as Islam.



They do exhibit some pretty cultist behavior such as haranguing apostates.

I'd be very worried if they were anything more than just a fraction of a % of the population.

The reason I dislike Islam so much is they represent a big block of the population and they're becoming more extreme thanks to Saudi spreading their cancerous bile.


Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:24pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:18pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:15pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:12pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:03pm:
I've never heard anyone called a raciest or xyz_phobic for criticizing Scientology. I think both religions are equally a big load of rotting pustulous bullcrap.


So do I, but I don't have an irrational fear or hatred of either of them.

Their religions are silly, but I live and let live.

I'm tolerant.

Islamophobes are intolerant.


Do you think there is a fair bit of intolerance within Islam?


Absolutely.

All religions have a fair bit of intolerance.

That's no reason for me to hate or fear every Scientologist, Christian, or Muslim on earth, though.

I just choose not to join their religion, and continue to live and let live.


Scientology may be silly, but have they started on mass murder yet?


I wouldn't be surprised.

And even if they have, it wouldn't cause me to hate (or be frightened of) every single Scientologist on the planet.

It's the people who do the killing: not the religions.
What about if Nazism  was a religion? Would you tolerate the non violent Nazi's?


What if your auntie had balls?

Would you still call her 'auntie'?


Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by freediver on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:25pm
Greg do you allow yourself to criticise Nazism?

Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:26pm

freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:25pm:
Greg do you allow yourself to criticise Nazism?


Do you?


Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:24pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:18pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:15pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:12pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:03pm:
I've never heard anyone called a raciest or xyz_phobic for criticizing Scientology. I think both religions are equally a big load of rotting pustulous bullcrap.


So do I, but I don't have an irrational fear or hatred of either of them.

Their religions are silly, but I live and let live.

I'm tolerant.

Islamophobes are intolerant.


Do you think there is a fair bit of intolerance within Islam?


Absolutely.

All religions have a fair bit of intolerance.

That's no reason for me to hate or fear every Scientologist, Christian, or Muslim on earth, though.

I just choose not to join their religion, and continue to live and let live.


Scientology may be silly, but have they started on mass murder yet?


I wouldn't be surprised.

And even if they have, it wouldn't cause me to hate (or be frightened of) every single Scientologist on the planet.

It's the people who do the killing: not the religions.
What about if Nazism  was a religion? Would you tolerate the non violent Nazi's?


What if your auntie had balls?

Would you still call her 'auntie'?
What about the non violent members of ISIS or Hamas? Do you judge them?

Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:29pm
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Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:29pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:24pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:18pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:15pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:12pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:03pm:
I've never heard anyone called a raciest or xyz_phobic for criticizing Scientology. I think both religions are equally a big load of rotting pustulous bullcrap.


So do I, but I don't have an irrational fear or hatred of either of them.

Their religions are silly, but I live and let live.

I'm tolerant.

Islamophobes are intolerant.


Do you think there is a fair bit of intolerance within Islam?


Absolutely.

All religions have a fair bit of intolerance.

That's no reason for me to hate or fear every Scientologist, Christian, or Muslim on earth, though.

I just choose not to join their religion, and continue to live and let live.


Scientology may be silly, but have they started on mass murder yet?


I wouldn't be surprised.

And even if they have, it wouldn't cause me to hate (or be frightened of) every single Scientologist on the planet.

It's the people who do the killing: not the religions.
What about if Nazism  was a religion? Would you tolerate the non violent Nazi's?


What if your auntie had balls?

Would you still call her 'auntie'?
What about the non violent members of ISIS or Hamas? Do you judge them?


Do you understand the difference between "judge" and "tolerate", Homo?


Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:30pm
:( :(

Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by freediver on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:26pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:25pm:
Greg do you allow yourself to criticise Nazism?


Do you?


Yes Greg. Do you?

Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:24pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:18pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:15pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:12pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:03pm:
I've never heard anyone called a raciest or xyz_phobic for criticizing Scientology. I think both religions are equally a big load of rotting pustulous bullcrap.


So do I, but I don't have an irrational fear or hatred of either of them.

Their religions are silly, but I live and let live.

I'm tolerant.

Islamophobes are intolerant.


Do you think there is a fair bit of intolerance within Islam?


Absolutely.

All religions have a fair bit of intolerance.

That's no reason for me to hate or fear every Scientologist, Christian, or Muslim on earth, though.

I just choose not to join their religion, and continue to live and let live.


Scientology may be silly, but have they started on mass murder yet?


I wouldn't be surprised.

And even if they have, it wouldn't cause me to hate (or be frightened of) every single Scientologist on the planet.

It's the people who do the killing: not the religions.
What about if Nazism  was a religion? Would you tolerate the non violent Nazi's?


What if your auntie had balls?

Would you still call her 'auntie'?
What about the non violent members of ISIS or Hamas? Do you judge them?


Do you understand the difference between "judge" and "tolerate", Homo?
Seeing you don't judge every member of a organised religious group then you must have no judgement towards non violent KKK members. That's interesting Pecca. I never thought you'd be like that.

Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:33pm
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Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:34pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:33pm:
Seeing you don't judge every member of a organised religious group


I don't remember saying that, Homo.

Lying won't help you, you know?


Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:35pm

freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:26pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:25pm:
Greg do you allow yourself to criticise Nazism?


Do you?


Yes Greg. Do you?


Why wouldn't I, FD?


Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:33pm:
Seeing you don't judge every member of a organised religious group


I don't remember saying that, Homo.

Lying won't help you, you know?
Pecca 10 minutes ago- I wouldn't be surprised.

And even if they have, it wouldn't cause me to hate (or be frightened of) every single Scientologist on the planet.

It's the people who do the killing: not the religions



So you don't hate every member of the KKK then. That's nice. Good for you.

Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:38pm
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Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:47pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:33pm:
Seeing you don't judge every member of a organised religious group


I don't remember saying that, Homo.

Lying won't help you, you know?
Pecca 10 minutes ago- I wouldn't be surprised.

And even if they have, it wouldn't cause me to hate (or be frightened of) every single Scientologist on the planet.

It's the people who do the killing: not the religions



So you don't hate every member of the KKK then. That's nice. Good for you.


You have a real problem with words, don't you Homo?

Now you're getting 'judge' and 'hate' confused.

Perhaps you should see someone about that.


Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by freediver on Apr 26th, 2016 at 7:14pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:35pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:26pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:25pm:
Greg do you allow yourself to criticise Nazism?


Do you?


Yes Greg. Do you?


Why wouldn't I, FD?


Because that would be apologising for Nazis?

Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2016 at 7:50pm

freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 7:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:35pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:26pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:25pm:
Greg do you allow yourself to criticise Nazism?


Do you?


Yes Greg. Do you?


Why wouldn't I, FD?


Because that would be apologising for Nazis?


Well thank goodness I criticise Nazism and Islam and Liberal politicians and shonky car salesmen and commercial TV and ...

Anyone else we should be criticising, FD?


Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by freediver on Apr 26th, 2016 at 8:54pm
Wouldn't criticising it involve mentioning it?


freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 8:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 7:02pm:
I think he has settled on pedaling backwards....


greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 4th, 2016 at 9:40pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 4th, 2016 at 9:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 4th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 4th, 2016 at 9:29pm:
Was it you making that ludicrous argument for not mentioning Islam?


Not me.


So who is this then? The idiot Greg? Sorry if I have you two confused. How do I tell you apart?


greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 7:07pm:
The best way to do that, is to ignore it.

Don't mention their silly religion.

Don't give them the satisfaction.

Direct all of your outrage at the individuals who committed the murders, not a silly set of beliefs.


That's just good advice, FD.

Do I need to explain the difference to you?



greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 6:49pm:
I've never advised people to refrain from mentioning Islam.

So, what direction would you like to take your butt-hurt now?

Another lie, perhaps?

It's your call.


It's up to you.

You can take my advice, or you can ignore it.

What's your decision, FD?



greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 7:54pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 6:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 2:37pm:
Is an attack that causes death worse than a graffiti attack, or an incinerated car?  Absolutely.

Why do you ask, anyway?


Greg can't make up his mind.


greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 6:26pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 6:24pm:
Do you think that consistently equating graffiti attacks with attacks causing multiple fatalities might undermine its ability to accurately capture the terrorism problem?


No.


There's nothing contrary in those two quotes.

Bomb blasts are worse than graffiti attacks.

And, in the stats I provided, they are all classified as terrorism.

Moreover, all terrorism is a problem.

Try to focus.

I'm consistent and, I'm 100% correct.


Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2016 at 8:55pm

freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 8:54pm:
Wouldn't criticising it involve mentioning it?


What do you think, FD?

Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by freediver on Apr 26th, 2016 at 9:25pm
I think your idiocy about not mentioning Islam because that is apologising for terrorists and somehow denying their responsibility for their own actions (as well as being racist, bigoted etc...) is tying you in all sorts of knots.

Title: Re: Islam vs Seculiarism
Post by Karnal on Apr 26th, 2016 at 9:29pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:33pm:
Seeing you don't judge every member of a organised religious group


I don't remember saying that, Homo.

Lying won't help you, you know?
Pecca 10 minutes ago- I wouldn't be surprised.

And even if they have, it wouldn't cause me to hate (or be frightened of) every single Scientologist on the planet.

It's the people who do the killing: not the religions



So you don't hate every member of the KKK then. That's nice. Good for you.


We all love the KKK, Homo. Well, the nice ones, anyway.

You?

Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by Karnal on Apr 26th, 2016 at 9:31pm

freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 9:25pm:
I think your idiocy about not mentioning Islam because that is apologising for terrorists and somehow denying their responsibility for their own actions (as well as being racist, bigoted etc...) is tying you in all sorts of knots.


Yes, FD did say this.

Title: Re: Islam vs Seculiarism
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 26th, 2016 at 9:35pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 9:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:33pm:
Seeing you don't judge every member of a organised religious group


I don't remember saying that, Homo.

Lying won't help you, you know?
Pecca 10 minutes ago- I wouldn't be surprised.

And even if they have, it wouldn't cause me to hate (or be frightened of) every single Scientologist on the planet.

It's the people who do the killing: not the religions



So you don't hate every member of the KKK then. That's nice. Good for you.


We all love the KKK, Homo. Well, the nice ones, anyway.

You?
I've never had a problem with them. You, Pecca and  many other leftards  don't paint a  whole religious group/organisation the same. So you must like most of them. Ever been bothered by the KKK sugar plum?

Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 26th, 2016 at 9:35pm
:(

Title: Re: Islam vs Seculiarism
Post by Karnal on Apr 26th, 2016 at 9:47pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 9:35pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 9:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:33pm:
Seeing you don't judge every member of a organised religious group


I don't remember saying that, Homo.

Lying won't help you, you know?
Pecca 10 minutes ago- I wouldn't be surprised.

And even if they have, it wouldn't cause me to hate (or be frightened of) every single Scientologist on the planet.

It's the people who do the killing: not the religions



So you don't hate every member of the KKK then. That's nice. Good for you.


We all love the KKK, Homo. Well, the nice ones, anyway.

You?
I've never had a problem with them. You, Pecca and  many other leftards  don't paint a  whole religious group/organisation the same. So you must like most of them. Ever been bothered by the KKK sugar plum?


If you’re asking if they drop goat meat around for Eid, Homo, never.

I live in Western Sydney, remember. Some of my best friends are KKKs.

Title: Re: Islam vs Secularism
Post by gandalf on Apr 27th, 2016 at 7:51am

freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 9:25pm:
I think your idiocy about not mentioning Islam because that is apologising for terrorists and somehow denying their responsibility for their own actions (as well as being racist, bigoted etc...) is tying you in all sorts of knots.


I know FD, I mean its almost as idiotic as this...


freediver wrote on Jul 19th, 2007 at 4:32pm:
There is more than enough in human nature to make people violent. There is no need to recourse to religion and to do so usually oversimplifies the problem in way that make it worse.



Title: Re: Islam vs Seculiarism
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27th, 2016 at 7:59am

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 9:35pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 9:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26th, 2016 at 6:33pm:
Seeing you don't judge every member of a organised religious group


I don't remember saying that, Homo.

Lying won't help you, you know?
Pecca 10 minutes ago- I wouldn't be surprised.

And even if they have, it wouldn't cause me to hate (or be frightened of) every single Scientologist on the planet.

It's the people who do the killing: not the religions



So you don't hate every member of the KKK then. That's nice. Good for you.


We all love the KKK, Homo. Well, the nice ones, anyway.

You?
I've never had a problem with them.


I'm sure you haven't.

Birds of a feather, and all that.

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