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Message started by The Mechanic on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:40am

Title: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by The Mechanic on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:40am

Quote:
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull’s obsession with Tony Abbott makes him look fragile

IF the rest of this 103-day election campaign goes like the first full day, Malcolm Turnbull is toast. Incredibly, on Tuesday the Prime Minister again attacked the man whose job he stole, Tony Abbott.

This time he tried to rob Abbott of his biggest boast: that he’d stopped the boats that under Labor brought 50,000 illegal immigrants.

“Whether it is Howard, Abbott or Turnbull, we’ve had the same policy,” scoffed Turnbull. “It was not something that was invented by Tony Abbott.” In fact, Turnbull as opposition leader opposed bringing back the “Pacific solution”the offshore detention in Nauru and Manus Island that has proved so successful again. But why disparage Abbott and diminish the successes of the government Turnbull leads? It makes no sense. Turnbull should know Abbott now has nothing but his record to defend.

But Turnbull seems to think making Abbott seem a failure will destroy his minuscule chances of returning as leader. Or maybe he just figures the worse Abbott looks, the more he himself shines. Whatever, last November Turnbull gave Abbott what journalists called a “slapdown” when he needlessly “repudiated” his suggestion — adopted this week by Britain — that Europe copy him by turning back the boats flooding the continent with illegal immigrants.

Turnbull said he had “no intention or desire to give advice on these matters” to nations such as Germany, since “each country faces very different circumstances”.

Weeks later he again reportedly gave Abbott a “slapdown” for suggesting troops be sent to fight Islamic State alongside Arab and Western allies. Turnbull misrepresented and mocked Abbott, telling parliament there was no room for “gestures or machismo” and ridiculing an allegedly “unilateral” Australian invasion to destroy the terrorist group that has since slaughtered civilians in Paris and now Brussels. This week’s brawl was again prompted by Turnbull’s pride, nettled this time by the charge that he’s going to the election just with Abbott’s policies.

“That’s quite untrue,” he protested on the ABC. “We dealt with Senate voting reform. That was not on the agenda (under Abbott).”

Rubbish. It was always Abbott’s plan to stop micro parties getting elected on secret preference deals. Labor senator Kim Carr says an Abbott minister even sounded him out about it. Having Turnbull adopt his election strategy and then accuse him of dogging it irked Abbott, who responded: “False. My plan was to do it as the last measure of the current parliament.” An hour later, he told Sky News the Turnbull government was worth re-electing because it was “running on the Abbott government’s record”. True, but Turnbull still couldn’t let it rest, saying Abbott was “not right” and repeating a meaningless slogan from a US political comedy, Veep: “There is continuity and there is change.”

That exchange dominated the TV news on day one, with Turnbull looking fragile, his government divided and his slogans borrowed.

Is this smart? Are these the actions of a leader?

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by The Mechanic on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:46am
I'm not sure who Turncoat is listening to, if anyone, but he'd better start getting some smart people in his corner as he's looking like a Deer in front of the Headlights...

maybe he could give Credlin a call??

he's alienated the smartest man in is cabinet... Morrison, he tripped himself up with an interview with the stupid lisa wilkinson inadvertently saying that he wasn't in his inner circle of ministers...

what????

after coughing and spluttering and going red.. the damage was done.. One of the worlds weakest reporters made Turncoat look like a dunce...  ::)

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:54am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:46am:
I'm not sure who Turncoat is listening to, if anyone, but he'd better start getting some smart people in his corner as he's looking like a Deer in front of the Headlights...

maybe he could give Credlin a call??

he's alienated the smartest man in is cabinet... Morrison, he tripped himself up with an interview with the stupid lisa wilkinson inadvertently saying that he wasn't in his inner circle of ministers...

what????

after coughing and spluttering and going red.. the damage was done.. One of the worlds weakest reporters made Turncoat look like a dunce...  ::)


Morrison would inspire the masses. He's a can-do man who doesn't dither about, as he proved during his highly successful tenure as Immigration Minister and as Social Services Minister (which was all too brief to really make the same impact as he did in Immigration). If we had Morrison running for election as PM, he'd absolutely wipe the floor with Shorten and the polls would be much closer to 60/40 to the Coalition.

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:13am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:54am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:46am:
I'm not sure who Turncoat is listening to, if anyone, but he'd better start getting some smart people in his corner as he's looking like a Deer in front of the Headlights...

maybe he could give Credlin a call??

he's alienated the smartest man in is cabinet... Morrison, he tripped himself up with an interview with the stupid lisa wilkinson inadvertently saying that he wasn't in his inner circle of ministers...

what????

after coughing and spluttering and going red.. the damage was done.. One of the worlds weakest reporters made Turncoat look like a dunce...  ::)


Morrison would inspire the masses. He's a can-do man who doesn't dither about, as he proved during his highly successful tenure as Immigration Minister and as Social Services Minister (which was all too brief to really make the same impact as he did in Immigration). If we had Morrison running for election as PM, he'd absolutely wipe the floor with Shorten and the polls would be much closer to 60/40 to the Coalition.


Worried are we , you should be , its been a long time since a First time government has been booted to the wilderness after one term, with the exception of not one but two state Libtard governments that is.

This is good as it gets Armpit  ;D

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:16am
These rightards aren't the sharpest tools in the shed , still haven't worked out it isn't the leader that's the problem  :D

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:16am

Its time wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:13am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:54am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:46am:
I'm not sure who Turncoat is listening to, if anyone, but he'd better start getting some smart people in his corner as he's looking like a Deer in front of the Headlights...

maybe he could give Credlin a call??

he's alienated the smartest man in is cabinet... Morrison, he tripped himself up with an interview with the stupid lisa wilkinson inadvertently saying that he wasn't in his inner circle of ministers...

what????

after coughing and spluttering and going red.. the damage was done.. One of the worlds weakest reporters made Turncoat look like a dunce...  ::)


Morrison would inspire the masses. He's a can-do man who doesn't dither about, as he proved during his highly successful tenure as Immigration Minister and as Social Services Minister (which was all too brief to really make the same impact as he did in Immigration). If we had Morrison running for election as PM, he'd absolutely wipe the floor with Shorten and the polls would be much closer to 60/40 to the Coalition.


Worried are we , you should be , its been a long time since a First time government has been booted to the wilderness after one term, with the exception of not one but two state Libtard governments that is.

This is good as it gets Armpit  ;D


No matter how many times you say it, it doesn't make it the truth, butt crack hair.

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:24am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:16am:

Its time wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:13am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:54am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:46am:
I'm not sure who Turncoat is listening to, if anyone, but he'd better start getting some smart people in his corner as he's looking like a Deer in front of the Headlights...

maybe he could give Credlin a call??

he's alienated the smartest man in is cabinet... Morrison, he tripped himself up with an interview with the stupid lisa wilkinson inadvertently saying that he wasn't in his inner circle of ministers...

what????

after coughing and spluttering and going red.. the damage was done.. One of the worlds weakest reporters made Turncoat look like a dunce...  ::)


Morrison would inspire the masses. He's a can-do man who doesn't dither about, as he proved during his highly successful tenure as Immigration Minister and as Social Services Minister (which was all too brief to really make the same impact as he did in Immigration). If we had Morrison running for election as PM, he'd absolutely wipe the floor with Shorten and the polls would be much closer to 60/40 to the Coalition.


Worried are we , you should be , its been a long time since a First time government has been booted to the wilderness after one term, with the exception of not one but two state Libtard governments that is.

This is good as it gets Armpit  ;D


No matter how many times you say it, it doesn't make it the truth, butt crack hair.


Oh really , tell us what rabbit in the hat Hamlet is going to pull out   :)?

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by The Mechanic on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:27am

Its time wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:13am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:54am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:46am:
I'm not sure who Turncoat is listening to, if anyone, but he'd better start getting some smart people in his corner as he's looking like a Deer in front of the Headlights...

maybe he could give Credlin a call??

he's alienated the smartest man in is cabinet... Morrison, he tripped himself up with an interview with the stupid lisa wilkinson inadvertently saying that he wasn't in his inner circle of ministers...

what????

after coughing and spluttering and going red.. the damage was done.. One of the worlds weakest reporters made Turncoat look like a dunce...  ::)


Morrison would inspire the masses. He's a can-do man who doesn't dither about, as he proved during his highly successful tenure as Immigration Minister and as Social Services Minister (which was all too brief to really make the same impact as he did in Immigration). If we had Morrison running for election as PM, he'd absolutely wipe the floor with Shorten and the polls would be much closer to 60/40 to the Coalition.


Worried are we , you should be , its been a long time since a First time government has been booted to the wilderness after one term, with the exception of not one but two state Libtard governments that is.

This is good as it gets Armpit  ;D


the drovers Dog could win this election against Bullshitten...

but if Turncoat doesn't get his act together he'll be Governing with a Minority Government and/or hostile senate again...

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by crocodile on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:11am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:54am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:46am:
I'm not sure who Turncoat is listening to, if anyone, but he'd better start getting some smart people in his corner as he's looking like a Deer in front of the Headlights...

maybe he could give Credlin a call??

he's alienated the smartest man in is cabinet... Morrison, he tripped himself up with an interview with the stupid lisa wilkinson inadvertently saying that he wasn't in his inner circle of ministers...

what????

after coughing and spluttering and going red.. the damage was done.. One of the worlds weakest reporters made Turncoat look like a dunce...  ::)


Morrison would inspire the masses. He's a can-do man who doesn't dither about, as he proved during his highly successful tenure as Immigration Minister and as Social Services Minister (which was all too brief to really make the same impact as he did in Immigration). If we had Morrison running for election as PM, he'd absolutely wipe the floor with Shorten and the polls would be much closer to 60/40 to the Coalition.


Morrison is all at sea in Treasury. After all the early bluster he's turned out be indecisive and completely lost on even the economic buzzwords. He's really just turned out to be a big pillow with the impression being the bloke who last sat on him.

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by The Mechanic on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:16am

crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:11am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:54am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:46am:
I'm not sure who Turncoat is listening to, if anyone, but he'd better start getting some smart people in his corner as he's looking like a Deer in front of the Headlights...

maybe he could give Credlin a call??

he's alienated the smartest man in is cabinet... Morrison, he tripped himself up with an interview with the stupid lisa wilkinson inadvertently saying that he wasn't in his inner circle of ministers...

what????

after coughing and spluttering and going red.. the damage was done.. One of the worlds weakest reporters made Turncoat look like a dunce...  ::)


Morrison would inspire the masses. He's a can-do man who doesn't dither about, as he proved during his highly successful tenure as Immigration Minister and as Social Services Minister (which was all too brief to really make the same impact as he did in Immigration). If we had Morrison running for election as PM, he'd absolutely wipe the floor with Shorten and the polls would be much closer to 60/40 to the Coalition.


Morrison is all at sea in Treasury. After all the early bluster he's turned out be indecisive and completely lost on even the economic buzzwords. He's really just turned out to be a big pillow with the impression being the bloke who last sat on him.


Morrison is trying to work with one hand tied behind his back by that Nincompoop Turncoat...

Turncoat would be best to keep out of his way and let him do his job like Abbott did...

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:24am

crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:11am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:54am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:46am:
I'm not sure who Turncoat is listening to, if anyone, but he'd better start getting some smart people in his corner as he's looking like a Deer in front of the Headlights...

maybe he could give Credlin a call??

he's alienated the smartest man in is cabinet... Morrison, he tripped himself up with an interview with the stupid lisa wilkinson inadvertently saying that he wasn't in his inner circle of ministers...

what????

after coughing and spluttering and going red.. the damage was done.. One of the worlds weakest reporters made Turncoat look like a dunce...  ::)


Morrison would inspire the masses. He's a can-do man who doesn't dither about, as he proved during his highly successful tenure as Immigration Minister and as Social Services Minister (which was all too brief to really make the same impact as he did in Immigration). If we had Morrison running for election as PM, he'd absolutely wipe the floor with Shorten and the polls would be much closer to 60/40 to the Coalition.


Morrison is all at sea in Treasury. After all the early bluster he's turned out be indecisive and completely lost on even the economic buzzwords. He's really just turned out to be a big pillow with the impression being the bloke who last sat on him.


They want this bloke to take over from Hamlet croc, be gentle with their delicate sensitivities

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by cods on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:24am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:46am:
I'm not sure who Turncoat is listening to, if anyone, but he'd better start getting some smart people in his corner as he's looking like a Deer in front of the Headlights...

maybe he could give Credlin a call??

he's alienated the smartest man in is cabinet... Morrison, he tripped himself up with an interview with the stupid lisa wilkinson inadvertently saying that he wasn't in his inner circle of ministers...

what????

after coughing and spluttering and going red.. the damage was done.. One of the worlds weakest reporters made Turncoat look like a dunce...  ::)



LUCY... its all about impressions..

he was on lateline last night...he looked stunned to be honest.....I cant think of another way to describe it...Tony Jones was like the guy with the rabbit in his headlights...

he did claim he and Scott were good buddies though.. ::)


Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Dnarever on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:27am
Abbott was “not right” and repeating a meaningless slogan from a US political comedy, Veep: “There is continuity and there is change.”

The political slogan from Veep was used by an actor playing the worst politician ever and this particular slogan was painstakingly designed to be the silliest most pathetic meaningless slogan possible.

Turnbull plagiarised a slogan meant to be meaningless.

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Dnarever on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:28am
IF the rest of this 103-day election campaign goes like the first full day

I still very much doubt that there will be a DD election.

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by cods on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:29am

crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:11am:
Morrison is all at sea in Treasury. After all the early bluster he's turned out be indecisive and completely lost on even the economic buzzwords. He's really just turned out to be a big pillow with the impression being the bloke who last sat on him.



what do you expect when its now come out he is left out of the INNER SANCTUM to make way for Lucy..

everything Morrison has said the PM shoots him down..

Morrison is a good pollie one who says it like it is and not what people want hiom to say..

he did a terrific job of turning back the boats...

he had balls and didnt mess arounmd.. and Abbott let him do his job

the freak we have now is anothe rkrudd wants to run everything or at least to be seen as doing so..

he has cut Morrison down a couple of times...

YOU DONT DO THAT TO THE TREASURER

and someone you claim is your mate... >:(

without paying  a price....

dont blame Morrison.

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by cods on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:30am

Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:27am:
Abbott was “not right” and repeating a meaningless slogan from a US political comedy, Veep: “There is continuity and there is change.”

The political slogan from Veep was used by an actor playing the worst politician ever and this particular slogan was painstakingly designed to be the silliest most pathetic meaningless slogan possible.

Turnbull plagiarised a slogan meant to be meaningless.


like "ITS TIME" you mean...

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:30am

cods wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:24am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:46am:
I'm not sure who Turncoat is listening to, if anyone, but he'd better start getting some smart people in his corner as he's looking like a Deer in front of the Headlights...

maybe he could give Credlin a call??

he's alienated the smartest man in is cabinet... Morrison, he tripped himself up with an interview with the stupid lisa wilkinson inadvertently saying that he wasn't in his inner circle of ministers...

what????

after coughing and spluttering and going red.. the damage was done.. One of the worlds weakest reporters made Turncoat look like a dunce...  ::)



LUCY... its all about impressions..

he was on lateline last night...he looked stunned to be honest.....I cant think of another way to describe it...Tony Jones was like the guy with the rabbit in his headlights...

he did claim he and Scott were good buddies though.. ::)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WypbzC6mi8


Hamlet at 1.56

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Redneck on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:36am

cods wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:24am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:46am:
I'm not sure who Turncoat is listening to, if anyone, but he'd better start getting some smart people in his corner as he's looking like a Deer in front of the Headlights...

maybe he could give Credlin a call??

he's alienated the smartest man in is cabinet... Morrison, he tripped himself up with an interview with the stupid lisa wilkinson inadvertently saying that he wasn't in his inner circle of ministers...

what????

after coughing and spluttering and going red.. the damage was done.. One of the worlds weakest reporters made Turncoat look like a dunce...  ::)



LUCY... its all about impressions..

he was on lateline last night...he looked stunned to be honest.....I cant think of another way to describe it...Tony Jones was like the guy with the rabbit in his headlights...

he did claim he and Scott were good buddies though.. ::)


Lateline codsy?

Isnt that the leftie ABC?

I didnt think you watched the ABC even though the facts are it is by far the most trusted news organisation in Australia.
http://www.essentialvision.com.au/tag/trust-in-media

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by cods on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:36am

Its time wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:30am:

cods wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:24am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:46am:
I'm not sure who Turncoat is listening to, if anyone, but he'd better start getting some smart people in his corner as he's looking like a Deer in front of the Headlights...

maybe he could give Credlin a call??

he's alienated the smartest man in is cabinet... Morrison, he tripped himself up with an interview with the stupid lisa wilkinson inadvertently saying that he wasn't in his inner circle of ministers...

what????

after coughing and spluttering and going red.. the damage was done.. One of the worlds weakest reporters made Turncoat look like a dunce...  ::)



LUCY... its all about impressions..

he was on lateline last night...he looked stunned to be honest.....I cant think of another way to describe it...Tony Jones was like the guy with the rabbit in his headlights...

he did claim he and Scott were good buddies though.. ::)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WypbzC6mi8


Hamlet at 1.56



I think your wanted in relationships.

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Redneck on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:39am
Turncoat should resign and hand over to Morriscum now.

He is a total failure.


Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:43am

cods wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:36am:

Its time wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:30am:

cods wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:24am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:46am:
I'm not sure who Turncoat is listening to, if anyone, but he'd better start getting some smart people in his corner as he's looking like a Deer in front of the Headlights...

maybe he could give Credlin a call??

he's alienated the smartest man in is cabinet... Morrison, he tripped himself up with an interview with the stupid lisa wilkinson inadvertently saying that he wasn't in his inner circle of ministers...

what????

after coughing and spluttering and going red.. the damage was done.. One of the worlds weakest reporters made Turncoat look like a dunce...  ::)



LUCY... its all about impressions..

he was on lateline last night...he looked stunned to be honest.....I cant think of another way to describe it...Tony Jones was like the guy with the rabbit in his headlights...

he did claim he and Scott were good buddies though.. ::)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WypbzC6mi8


Hamlet at 1.56



I think your wanted in relationships.


You're wanted in fermentations , they're struggling to brew up some sherry and need an expert taste tester  :D

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by cods on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:48am

Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:39am:
Turncoat should resign and hand over to Morriscum now.

He is a total failure.



too late for that.... hes made his bed now he has to lay in it...and he can blame Abbott all he likes but Abbott is only answering questions he is asked... and Abbott has every right to defend himself..... for the life of me I cannot see where turnbull has gone out of his way to heal the Liberals....
I wouldnt call him a failure as you have to actually be seen to do something to fail.

I call him Clayton.. the pm you have when you havent got a PM> ::) ::)


so witty lefty... how do you do it?.... :(

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Fireball on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:49am

Its time wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:16am:
These rightards aren't the sharpest tools in the shed , still haven't worked out it isn't the leader that's the problem  :D


So says the resident plank.

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Fireball on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:50am

Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:39am:
Turncoat should resign and hand over to Morriscum now.

He is a total failure.


You're not wrong, but replace Morrison with Tony.

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Dnarever on Mar 25th, 2016 at 8:22am

cods wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:30am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:27am:
Abbott was “not right” and repeating a meaningless slogan from a US political comedy, Veep: “There is continuity and there is change.”

The political slogan from Veep was used by an actor playing the worst politician ever and this particular slogan was painstakingly designed to be the silliest most pathetic meaningless slogan possible.

Turnbull plagiarised a slogan meant to be meaningless.


like "ITS TIME" you mean...


"ITS TIME" was not original but it was effective because it was in fact time. By the way it was a success Labor did win that election and that slogan was attributed a bigger slice of the credit that any political slogan used before or since.

However the same will never be said about the Liberals attempt, here is a clue Turnbull will never say that again it was a disaster.

Imagine someone silly enough to think they could get away with using a slogan that was specifically written to be a joke. The person saying this in the movie was meant to be saying something really stupid.




Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Labor voter on Mar 25th, 2016 at 8:44am
https://youtu.be/vqMCZBjvmD4

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by crocodile on Mar 25th, 2016 at 8:57am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:16am:

crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:11am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:54am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:46am:
I'm not sure who Turncoat is listening to, if anyone, but he'd better start getting some smart people in his corner as he's looking like a Deer in front of the Headlights...

maybe he could give Credlin a call??

he's alienated the smartest man in is cabinet... Morrison, he tripped himself up with an interview with the stupid lisa wilkinson inadvertently saying that he wasn't in his inner circle of ministers...

what????

after coughing and spluttering and going red.. the damage was done.. One of the worlds weakest reporters made Turncoat look like a dunce...  ::)


Morrison would inspire the masses. He's a can-do man who doesn't dither about, as he proved during his highly successful tenure as Immigration Minister and as Social Services Minister (which was all too brief to really make the same impact as he did in Immigration). If we had Morrison running for election as PM, he'd absolutely wipe the floor with Shorten and the polls would be much closer to 60/40 to the Coalition.


Morrison is all at sea in Treasury. After all the early bluster he's turned out be indecisive and completely lost on even the economic buzzwords. He's really just turned out to be a big pillow with the impression being the bloke who last sat on him.


Morrison is trying to work with one hand tied behind his back by that Nincompoop Turncoat...

Turncoat would be best to keep out of his way and let him do his job like Abbott did...


There is a deal of truth in what you say. However, treasury is a mighty step up from immigration and social services. So far, with the exception of his stand vis a vis company taxes he is uninspiring and dithering. He hasn't even come to terms with the terminology yet. He has much to learn but gives the impression that he already knows. He doesn't.


Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by John Smith on Mar 25th, 2016 at 9:09am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:54am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:46am:
I'm not sure who Turncoat is listening to, if anyone, but he'd better start getting some smart people in his corner as he's looking like a Deer in front of the Headlights...

maybe he could give Credlin a call??

he's alienated the smartest man in is cabinet... Morrison, he tripped himself up with an interview with the stupid lisa wilkinson inadvertently saying that he wasn't in his inner circle of ministers...

what????

after coughing and spluttering and going red.. the damage was done.. One of the worlds weakest reporters made Turncoat look like a dunce...  ::)


Morrison would inspire the masses. He's a can-do man who doesn't dither about, as he proved during his highly successful tenure as Immigration Minister and as Social Services Minister (which was all too brief to really make the same impact as he did in Immigration). If we had Morrison running for election as PM, he'd absolutely wipe the floor with Shorten and the polls would be much closer to 60/40 to the Coalition.



Morrison might have looked good against refugees with 'operational secrecy' to hide behind, but he can't hide in his role as treasurer ...

he's looking to be just as bad as, if not worse, then Hockey. And I didn't think it was possible. Only a complete more on would think he'd make a good PM  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:31pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 8:22am:

cods wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:30am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:27am:
Abbott was “not right” and repeating a meaningless slogan from a US political comedy, Veep: “There is continuity and there is change.”

The political slogan from Veep was used by an actor playing the worst politician ever and this particular slogan was painstakingly designed to be the silliest most pathetic meaningless slogan possible.

Turnbull plagiarised a slogan meant to be meaningless.


like "ITS TIME" you mean...


"ITS TIME" was not original but it was effective because it was in fact time. By the way it was a success Labor did win that election and that slogan was attributed a bigger slice of the credit that any political slogan used before or since.

However the same will never be said about the Liberals attempt, here is a clue Turnbull will never say that again it was a disaster.

Imagine someone silly enough to think they could get away with using a slogan that was specifically written to be a joke. The person saying this in the movie was meant to be saying something really stupid.




"its time' was a slogan.  "There is continuity and there is change.” is not a slogan.  IT WAS A COMMENT, nothing more

and just in case you people ever decide to think about it... IT IS TRUE.



Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:52pm

Its time wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:16am:
These rightards aren't the sharpest tools in the shed , still haven't worked out it isn't the leader that's the problem 


Exactly.

It's not the leader, and it's not the slogans.

The Libs are rotten to the core.



Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by John Smith on Mar 25th, 2016 at 1:02pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:31pm:
IT WAS A COMMENT, nothing more



a phrase made repeatedly is a slogan. Turnbull couldn't repeat it often enough until the story about the sit com came out.  :D :D

A slogan is a memorable motto or phrase used in a clan, political, commercial, religious, and other context as a repetitive expression of an idea or purpose



funny how the libs are struggling so much to come up with a slogan, the first they stopped using after being told it was in breach of political advertising rules, the second they got off an American sitcom .... how the bugger can they run the country if they can't work out a simple slogan?



Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 25th, 2016 at 1:11pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 1:02pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:31pm:
IT WAS A COMMENT, nothing more



a phrase made repeatedly is a slogan. Turnbull couldn't repeat it often enough until the story about the sit com came out.  :D :D

A slogan is a memorable motto or phrase used in a clan, political, commercial, religious, and other context as a repetitive expression of an idea or purpose



funny how the libs are struggling so much to come up with a slogan, the first they stopped using after being told it was in breach of political advertising rules, the second they got off an American sitcom .... how the bugger can they run the country if they can't work out a simple slogan?


Why did they bother getting rid of dumb dumb , least he could sell a slogan to the brain dead knuckle draggers

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Dnarever on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:14pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 1:02pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:31pm:
IT WAS A COMMENT, nothing more



a phrase made repeatedly is a slogan. Turnbull couldn't repeat it often enough until the story about the sit com came out.  :D :D

A slogan is a memorable motto or phrase used in a clan, political, commercial, religious, and other context as a repetitive expression of an idea or purpose



funny how the libs are struggling so much to come up with a slogan, the first they stopped using after being told it was in breach of political advertising rules, the second they got off an American sitcom .... how the bugger can they run the country if they can't work out a simple slogan?


Maybe the should stick with stop the boats and ditch the witch ?



Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Dnarever on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:35pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:31pm:
"its time' was a slogan.  "There is continuity and there is change.” is not a slogan.  IT WAS A COMMENT, nothing more

and just in case you people ever decide to think about it... IT IS TRUE.


It does not matter what the Liberals say or do you are always ready and willing to make up an excuse.

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:58pm
This is just a phenomenal period in politics....  :D

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Mar 25th, 2016 at 8:00pm
1997 6.9 Practical implications
1998 The United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC, 1992) states:
1999 “The ultimate objective of this Convention and any related legal instruments that the
2000 Conference of the Parties may adopt is to achieve, in accordance with the relevant
2001 provisions of the Convention, stabilization of greenhouse gas concentrations in the
2002 atmosphere at a level that would prevent dangerous anthropogenic interference with the
2003 climate system. Such a level should be achieved within a time frame sufficient to allow
2004 ecosystems to adapt naturally to climate change, to ensure that food production is not
2005 threatened and to enable economic development to proceed in a sustainable manner.”
2006 “Dangerous” is not further defined by the Convention. Our present paper has several
2007 implications with regard to the concerns that the Framework Convention is meant to address:
2008 First, our conclusions suggest that a target of limiting global warming to 2°C, which has
2009 sometimes been discussed, does not provide safety. We cannot be certain that multimeter sea
2010 level rise will occur if we allow global warming of 2°C. However, we know the warming would
2011 remain present for many centuries, if we allow it to occur (Solomon et al., 2010), a period
2012 exceeding the ice sheet response time implied by paleoclimate data. Sea level reached +6-9 m in
2013 the Eemian, a time that we have concluded was probably no more than a few tenths of a degree
2014 warmer than today. We observe accelerating mass losses from the Greenland and Antarctic ice
2015 sheets, and we have identified amplifying feedbacks that will increase the rates of change. We
2016 also observe changes occurring in the North Atlantic and Southern Oceans, changes that we can
2017 attribute to ongoing warming and ice melt, which imply that this human-driven climate change
2018 seems poised to affect these most powerful overturning ocean circulation systems, systems that
2019 we know have had huge effects on the planetary environment in the past. We conclude that, in
2020 the common meaning of the word danger, 2°C global warming is dangerous.
2021 Second, our study suggests that global surface air temperature, although an important
2022 diagnostic, is a flawed metric of planetary “health”, because faster ice melt has a cooling effect
2023 for a substantial period. Earth’s energy imbalance is in some sense a more fundamental climate
2024 diagnostic. Stabilizing climate, to first order, requires restoring planetary energy balance. The
2025 Framework Convention never mentions temperature – instead it mentions stabilization of
2026 greenhouse gas concentrations at a level to avoid danger. It has been shown that the dominant
2027 climate forcing, CO2, must be reduced to no more than 350 ppm to restore planetary energy
2028 balance (Hansen et al., 2008) and keep climate near the Holocene level, if other forcings remain
2029 unchanged. Rapid phasedown of fossil fuel emissions is the crucial need, because of the
2030 millennial time scale of this carbon in the climate system. Improved understanding of the carbon
2031 cycle is needed to determine the most effective complementary actions. It may be feasible to
51
2032 restore planetary energy balance via improved agricultural and forestry practices and other
2033 actions to draw down atmospheric CO2 amount, if fossil fuel emissions are rapidly phased out.
2034 Third, we not only see evidence of changes beginning to happen in the climate system, as
2035 discussed above, we have associated these changes with amplifying feedback processes. We
2036 understand that in a system that is out of equilibrium, a system in which the equilibrium is
2037 difficult to restore rapidly, a system in which major components such as the ocean and ice sheets
2038 have great inertia but are beginning to change, the existence of such amplifying feedbacks
2039 presents a situation of great concern. There is a possibility, a real danger, that we will hand
2040 young people and future generations a climate system that is practically out of their control.
2041 We conclude that the message our climate science delivers to society, policymakers, and
2042 the public alike is this: we have a global emergency. Fossil fuel CO2 emissions should be
2043 reduced as rapidly as practical.

source: page 50, http://www.atmos-chem-phys-discuss.net/15/20059/2015/acp-2015-432-manuscript-version4.pdf

  :o :oWHERE IS THE FRIGGIN' LEADERSHIP  :o ?????????????????//

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Karnal on Mar 26th, 2016 at 9:16am

cods wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:30am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:27am:
Abbott was “not right” and repeating a meaningless slogan from a US political comedy, Veep: “There is continuity and there is change.”

The political slogan from Veep was used by an actor playing the worst politician ever and this particular slogan was painstakingly designed to be the silliest most pathetic meaningless slogan possible.

Turnbull plagiarised a slogan meant to be meaningless.


like "ITS TIME" you mean...


The most moving, positive and inspirational campaign pitch ever. It nailed Labor's message and captivated the voters.

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:32am

Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:35pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:31pm:
"its time' was a slogan.  "There is continuity and there is change.” is not a slogan.  IT WAS A COMMENT, nothing more

and just in case you people ever decide to think about it... IT IS TRUE.


It does not matter what the Liberals say or do you are always ready and willing to make up an excuse.



and you defend labor no matter what they do even if it means you have to deny irrefutable evidence.

but it was just a statement and it is one that has a strong element of truth.  But is that a bit hard for you to understand?

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:33am

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 9:16am:

cods wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:30am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:27am:
Abbott was “not right” and repeating a meaningless slogan from a US political comedy, Veep: “There is continuity and there is change.”

The political slogan from Veep was used by an actor playing the worst politician ever and this particular slogan was painstakingly designed to be the silliest most pathetic meaningless slogan possible.

Turnbull plagiarised a slogan meant to be meaningless.


like "ITS TIME" you mean...


The most moving, positive and inspirational campaign pitch ever. It nailed Labor's message and captivated the voters.



and a mere 3 years later they were thrown out in a never-to-be-repeated electoral slaughter. 

it was time... yet again.

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Redneck on Mar 26th, 2016 at 12:05pm
Perhaps here's one

"ITS A WASTE OF TIME VOTING LIBERAL"


or

LIBERAL SAME SH1T DIFFERENT LEADER!"

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 26th, 2016 at 12:15pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
Perhaps here's one

"ITS A WASTE OF TIME VOTING LIBERAL"


or

LIBERAL SAME SH1T DIFFERENT LEADER!"



Or BUDGET EMERGENCY OVER  :-/

Or GOOD GOVERNMENT STARTS TODAY  :-/

Or RESOURCE BOOM..... STARTING SOON  :-/



Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by stunspore on Mar 26th, 2016 at 2:15pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:33am:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 9:16am:

cods wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:30am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:27am:
Abbott was “not right” and repeating a meaningless slogan from a US political comedy, Veep: “There is continuity and there is change.”

The political slogan from Veep was used by an actor playing the worst politician ever and this particular slogan was painstakingly designed to be the silliest most pathetic meaningless slogan possible.

Turnbull plagiarised a slogan meant to be meaningless.


like "ITS TIME" you mean...


The most moving, positive and inspirational campaign pitch ever. It nailed Labor's message and captivated the voters.



and a mere 3 years later they were thrown out in a never-to-be-repeated electoral slaughter. 

it was time... yet again.


I don't get why longy keeps calling the last fed election - an electoral slaughter.  The lab gov had a falling majority and into minority gov since the first election.  Given the trend then yes losing is a distinct possibility.  Why the constant wrong "fact" is kept repeated is probably a channeling of Abbott - say it enough times and people will start believing?

The only slaughter was Qld elections -> from the Campbell to the current lab gov - in which large numbers shifted.

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Mar 26th, 2016 at 3:09pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:32am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:35pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:31pm:
"its time' was a slogan.  "There is continuity and there is change.” is not a slogan.  IT WAS A COMMENT, nothing more

and just in case you people ever decide to think about it... IT IS TRUE.


It does not matter what the Liberals say or do you are always ready and willing to make up an excuse.



and you defend labor no matter what they do even if it means you have to deny irrefutable evidence.

but it was just a statement and it is one that has a strong element of truth.  But is that a bit hard for you to understand?

It's meaningless mealy mouthed shite: Keating would have smashed Howard if he ever said that and any metho drinker knows it!

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Mar 26th, 2016 at 3:13pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:33am:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 9:16am:

cods wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:30am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:27am:
Abbott was “not right” and repeating a meaningless slogan from a US political comedy, Veep: “There is continuity and there is change.”

The political slogan from Veep was used by an actor playing the worst politician ever and this particular slogan was painstakingly designed to be the silliest most pathetic meaningless slogan possible.

Turnbull plagiarised a slogan meant to be meaningless.


like "ITS TIME" you mean...


The most moving, positive and inspirational campaign pitch ever. It nailed Labor's message and captivated the voters.



and a mere 3 years later they were thrown out in a never-to-be-repeated electoral slaughter. 

it was time... yet again.

Howard and Costello never denied what Hawke and Keating did and the libs are now a joke for the rest of the asian century that we built because of copper internet: IMAGINE VOTING LIBERAL I TELL YA.... WHAT A F'N SCREAM THAT WOULD BE... NO WONDER THEY SMOKE BORING CRACK  ::)

...that's not even mentioning what Howard did and then there was the pointless Costello... you're all f'n fubared for the next century with your pretty haircuts and nothing to say as per usual!

WHAT A bugger**** DISGRACE THE LIBERAL PARTY HAS BECOME- WHAT AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE TO HUMANITY!

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 26th, 2016 at 5:06pm

stunspore wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 2:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:33am:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 9:16am:

cods wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:30am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:27am:
Abbott was “not right” and repeating a meaningless slogan from a US political comedy, Veep: “There is continuity and there is change.”

The political slogan from Veep was used by an actor playing the worst politician ever and this particular slogan was painstakingly designed to be the silliest most pathetic meaningless slogan possible.

Turnbull plagiarised a slogan meant to be meaningless.


like "ITS TIME" you mean...


The most moving, positive and inspirational campaign pitch ever. It nailed Labor's message and captivated the voters.



and a mere 3 years later they were thrown out in a never-to-be-repeated electoral slaughter. 

it was time... yet again.


I don't get why longy keeps calling the last fed election - an electoral slaughter.  The lab gov had a falling majority and into minority gov since the first election.  Given the trend then yes losing is a distinct possibility.  Why the constant wrong "fact" is kept repeated is probably a channeling of Abbott - say it enough times and people will start believing?

The only slaughter was Qld elections -> from the Campbell to the current lab gov - in which large numbers shifted.



2013... Labors primary vote was its LOWEST in 80 years.  now tell me again why that is anything but a slaughter.

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Mar 26th, 2016 at 5:08pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 5:06pm:

stunspore wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 2:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:33am:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 9:16am:

cods wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:30am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:27am:
Abbott was “not right” and repeating a meaningless slogan from a US political comedy, Veep: “There is continuity and there is change.”

The political slogan from Veep was used by an actor playing the worst politician ever and this particular slogan was painstakingly designed to be the silliest most pathetic meaningless slogan possible.

Turnbull plagiarised a slogan meant to be meaningless.


like "ITS TIME" you mean...


The most moving, positive and inspirational campaign pitch ever. It nailed Labor's message and captivated the voters.



and a mere 3 years later they were thrown out in a never-to-be-repeated electoral slaughter. 

it was time... yet again.


I don't get why longy keeps calling the last fed election - an electoral slaughter.  The lab gov had a falling majority and into minority gov since the first election.  Given the trend then yes losing is a distinct possibility.  Why the constant wrong "fact" is kept repeated is probably a channeling of Abbott - say it enough times and people will start believing?

The only slaughter was Qld elections -> from the Campbell to the current lab gov - in which large numbers shifted.



2013... Labors primary vote was its LOWEST in 80 years.  now tell me again why that is anything but a slaughter.


Howard and Costello never denied what Hawke and Keating did and the libs are now a joke for the rest of the asian century that we built because of copper internet: IMAGINE VOTING LIBERAL I TELL YA.... WHAT A F'N SCREAM THAT WOULD BE... NO WONDER THEY SMOKE BORING CRACK 

...that's not even mentioning what Howard did and then there was the pointless Costello... you're all f'n fubared for the next century with your pretty haircuts and nothing to say as per usual!

WHAT A bugger**** DISGRACE THE LIBERAL PARTY HAS BECOME- WHAT AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE TO HUMANITY!

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by stunspore on Mar 26th, 2016 at 5:25pm
Drop in primary votes?  Big deal.  It's the results that matters, such as the preferences that is far more relevant.  Primary only gets you so far.  If primary matters more, than why do polls focus far more on the after preferences result?

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 26th, 2016 at 6:41pm

stunspore wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 5:25pm:
Drop in primary votes?  Big deal.  It's the results that matters, such as the preferences that is far more relevant.  Primary only gets you so far.  If primary matters more, than why do polls focus far more on the after preferences result?


preferences wont save you with the lowest primary vote in 80 years.  you still have to get primary votes otherwise preferences wont help you.

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 26th, 2016 at 6:53pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 6:41pm:

stunspore wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 5:25pm:
Drop in primary votes?  Big deal.  It's the results that matters, such as the preferences that is far more relevant.  Primary only gets you so far.  If primary matters more, than why do polls focus far more on the after preferences result?


preferences wont save you with the lowest primary vote in 80 years.  you still have to get primary votes otherwise preferences wont help you.


All those votes against Labor, and what was it, the biggest defeat in 80 years.................... and still you cant pass any legislation  ;D ;D , has it sunk in yet it isn't the senates that's the problem  :'(

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by Dnarever on Mar 26th, 2016 at 9:57pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:32am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:35pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:31pm:
"its time' was a slogan.  "There is continuity and there is change.” is not a slogan.  IT WAS A COMMENT, nothing more

and just in case you people ever decide to think about it... IT IS TRUE.


It does not matter what the Liberals say or do you are always ready and willing to make up an excuse.



and you defend labor no matter what they do even if it means you have to deny irrefutable evidence.

but it was just a statement and it is one that has a strong element of truth.  But is that a bit hard for you to understand?


even if it means you have to deny irrefutable evidence

Rubbish sounds more like you defending the Liberals.

but it was just a statement and it is one that has a strong element of truth.

It came from a TV comedy and was written as a joke line funny because it is meaningless.

that has a strong element of truth

None what so ever.

Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless
Post by stunspore on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:20am
Guess i define electoral slaughter by how many seats won/lost.  After all, having the most votes don't win you the government, as numerous elections have shown.  But I guess long has to focus on any positives for lib/nats and negatives for labs/others as part of his dogmatic views.

In any case the inhouse fighting with the libs will take care of half the battle?

http://www.afr.com/news/politics/pm-malcolm-turnbull-says-tony-abbott-wrong-to-claim-credit-for-election-agenda-20160321-gnnvx0
Turnbull admits Abbott a hindrance for re-election.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/the-road-to-ruin-book-says-christopher-pyne-believed-he-would-lose-his-seat-under-tony-abbotts-leadership/news-story/5dde11c176846bedc876c29cc332282b
Abbott's close mate scared of Abbott?

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