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Title: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by The Mechanic on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:40am Quote:
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by The Mechanic on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:46am
I'm not sure who Turncoat is listening to, if anyone, but he'd better start getting some smart people in his corner as he's looking like a Deer in front of the Headlights...
maybe he could give Credlin a call?? he's alienated the smartest man in is cabinet... Morrison, he tripped himself up with an interview with the stupid lisa wilkinson inadvertently saying that he wasn't in his inner circle of ministers... what???? after coughing and spluttering and going red.. the damage was done.. One of the worlds weakest reporters made Turncoat look like a dunce... ::) |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:54am President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:46am:
Morrison would inspire the masses. He's a can-do man who doesn't dither about, as he proved during his highly successful tenure as Immigration Minister and as Social Services Minister (which was all too brief to really make the same impact as he did in Immigration). If we had Morrison running for election as PM, he'd absolutely wipe the floor with Shorten and the polls would be much closer to 60/40 to the Coalition. |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Leftwinger on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:13am Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:54am:
Worried are we , you should be , its been a long time since a First time government has been booted to the wilderness after one term, with the exception of not one but two state Libtard governments that is. This is good as it gets Armpit ;D |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Leftwinger on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:16am
These rightards aren't the sharpest tools in the shed , still haven't worked out it isn't the leader that's the problem :D
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:16am Its time wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:13am:
No matter how many times you say it, it doesn't make it the truth, butt crack hair. |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Leftwinger on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:24am Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:16am:
Oh really , tell us what rabbit in the hat Hamlet is going to pull out :)? |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by The Mechanic on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:27am Its time wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:13am:
the drovers Dog could win this election against Bullshitten... but if Turncoat doesn't get his act together he'll be Governing with a Minority Government and/or hostile senate again... |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by crocodile on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:11am Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:54am:
Morrison is all at sea in Treasury. After all the early bluster he's turned out be indecisive and completely lost on even the economic buzzwords. He's really just turned out to be a big pillow with the impression being the bloke who last sat on him. |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by The Mechanic on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:16am crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:11am:
Morrison is trying to work with one hand tied behind his back by that Nincompoop Turncoat... Turncoat would be best to keep out of his way and let him do his job like Abbott did... |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Leftwinger on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:24am crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:11am:
They want this bloke to take over from Hamlet croc, be gentle with their delicate sensitivities |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by cods on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:24am President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:46am:
LUCY... its all about impressions.. he was on lateline last night...he looked stunned to be honest.....I cant think of another way to describe it...Tony Jones was like the guy with the rabbit in his headlights... he did claim he and Scott were good buddies though.. ::) |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Dnarever on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:27am
Abbott was “not right” and repeating a meaningless slogan from a US political comedy, Veep: “There is continuity and there is change.”
The political slogan from Veep was used by an actor playing the worst politician ever and this particular slogan was painstakingly designed to be the silliest most pathetic meaningless slogan possible. Turnbull plagiarised a slogan meant to be meaningless. |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Dnarever on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:28am
IF the rest of this 103-day election campaign goes like the first full day
I still very much doubt that there will be a DD election. |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by cods on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:29am crocodile wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:11am:
what do you expect when its now come out he is left out of the INNER SANCTUM to make way for Lucy.. everything Morrison has said the PM shoots him down.. Morrison is a good pollie one who says it like it is and not what people want hiom to say.. he did a terrific job of turning back the boats... he had balls and didnt mess arounmd.. and Abbott let him do his job the freak we have now is anothe rkrudd wants to run everything or at least to be seen as doing so.. he has cut Morrison down a couple of times... YOU DONT DO THAT TO THE TREASURER and someone you claim is your mate... >:( without paying a price.... dont blame Morrison. |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by cods on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:30am Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:27am:
like "ITS TIME" you mean... |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Leftwinger on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:30am cods wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:24am:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WypbzC6mi8 Hamlet at 1.56 |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Redneck on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:36am cods wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:24am:
Lateline codsy? Isnt that the leftie ABC? I didnt think you watched the ABC even though the facts are it is by far the most trusted news organisation in Australia. http://www.essentialvision.com.au/tag/trust-in-media |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by cods on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:36am Its time wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:30am:
I think your wanted in relationships. |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Redneck on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:39am
Turncoat should resign and hand over to Morriscum now.
He is a total failure. |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Leftwinger on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:43am cods wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:36am:
You're wanted in fermentations , they're struggling to brew up some sherry and need an expert taste tester :D |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by cods on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:48am Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:39am:
too late for that.... hes made his bed now he has to lay in it...and he can blame Abbott all he likes but Abbott is only answering questions he is asked... and Abbott has every right to defend himself..... for the life of me I cannot see where turnbull has gone out of his way to heal the Liberals.... I wouldnt call him a failure as you have to actually be seen to do something to fail. I call him Clayton.. the pm you have when you havent got a PM> ::) ::) so witty lefty... how do you do it?.... :( |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Fireball on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:49am Its time wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:16am:
So says the resident plank. |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Fireball on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:50am Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:39am:
You're not wrong, but replace Morrison with Tony. |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Dnarever on Mar 25th, 2016 at 8:22am cods wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:30am:
"ITS TIME" was not original but it was effective because it was in fact time. By the way it was a success Labor did win that election and that slogan was attributed a bigger slice of the credit that any political slogan used before or since. However the same will never be said about the Liberals attempt, here is a clue Turnbull will never say that again it was a disaster. Imagine someone silly enough to think they could get away with using a slogan that was specifically written to be a joke. The person saying this in the movie was meant to be saying something really stupid. |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Labor voter on Mar 25th, 2016 at 8:44am |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by crocodile on Mar 25th, 2016 at 8:57am President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:16am:
There is a deal of truth in what you say. However, treasury is a mighty step up from immigration and social services. So far, with the exception of his stand vis a vis company taxes he is uninspiring and dithering. He hasn't even come to terms with the terminology yet. He has much to learn but gives the impression that he already knows. He doesn't. |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by John Smith on Mar 25th, 2016 at 9:09am Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:54am:
Morrison might have looked good against refugees with 'operational secrecy' to hide behind, but he can't hide in his role as treasurer ... he's looking to be just as bad as, if not worse, then Hockey. And I didn't think it was possible. Only a complete more on would think he'd make a good PM ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by longweekend58 on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:31pm Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 8:22am:
"its time' was a slogan. "There is continuity and there is change.” is not a slogan. IT WAS A COMMENT, nothing more and just in case you people ever decide to think about it... IT IS TRUE. |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:52pm Its time wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:16am:
Exactly. It's not the leader, and it's not the slogans. The Libs are rotten to the core. |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by John Smith on Mar 25th, 2016 at 1:02pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:31pm:
a phrase made repeatedly is a slogan. Turnbull couldn't repeat it often enough until the story about the sit com came out. :D :D A slogan is a memorable motto or phrase used in a clan, political, commercial, religious, and other context as a repetitive expression of an idea or purpose funny how the libs are struggling so much to come up with a slogan, the first they stopped using after being told it was in breach of political advertising rules, the second they got off an American sitcom .... how the bugger can they run the country if they can't work out a simple slogan? |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Leftwinger on Mar 25th, 2016 at 1:11pm John Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 1:02pm:
Why did they bother getting rid of dumb dumb , least he could sell a slogan to the brain dead knuckle draggers |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Dnarever on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:14pm John Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 1:02pm:
Maybe the should stick with stop the boats and ditch the witch ? |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Dnarever on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:35pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:31pm:
It does not matter what the Liberals say or do you are always ready and willing to make up an excuse. |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:58pm
This is just a phenomenal period in politics.... :D
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Mar 25th, 2016 at 8:00pm
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Karnal on Mar 26th, 2016 at 9:16am cods wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:30am:
The most moving, positive and inspirational campaign pitch ever. It nailed Labor's message and captivated the voters. |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by longweekend58 on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:32am Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:35pm:
and you defend labor no matter what they do even if it means you have to deny irrefutable evidence. but it was just a statement and it is one that has a strong element of truth. But is that a bit hard for you to understand? |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by longweekend58 on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:33am Melanias purse wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 9:16am:
and a mere 3 years later they were thrown out in a never-to-be-repeated electoral slaughter. it was time... yet again. |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Redneck on Mar 26th, 2016 at 12:05pm
Perhaps here's one
"ITS A WASTE OF TIME VOTING LIBERAL" or LIBERAL SAME SH1T DIFFERENT LEADER!" |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Leftwinger on Mar 26th, 2016 at 12:15pm Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
Or BUDGET EMERGENCY OVER :-/ Or GOOD GOVERNMENT STARTS TODAY :-/ Or RESOURCE BOOM..... STARTING SOON :-/ |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by stunspore on Mar 26th, 2016 at 2:15pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:33am:
I don't get why longy keeps calling the last fed election - an electoral slaughter. The lab gov had a falling majority and into minority gov since the first election. Given the trend then yes losing is a distinct possibility. Why the constant wrong "fact" is kept repeated is probably a channeling of Abbott - say it enough times and people will start believing? The only slaughter was Qld elections -> from the Campbell to the current lab gov - in which large numbers shifted. |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Mar 26th, 2016 at 3:09pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:32am:
It's meaningless mealy mouthed shite: Keating would have smashed Howard if he ever said that and any metho drinker knows it! |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Mar 26th, 2016 at 3:13pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:33am:
Howard and Costello never denied what Hawke and Keating did and the libs are now a joke for the rest of the asian century that we built because of copper internet: IMAGINE VOTING LIBERAL I TELL YA.... WHAT A F'N SCREAM THAT WOULD BE... NO WONDER THEY SMOKE BORING CRACK ::) ...that's not even mentioning what Howard did and then there was the pointless Costello... you're all f'n fubared for the next century with your pretty haircuts and nothing to say as per usual! WHAT A bugger**** DISGRACE THE LIBERAL PARTY HAS BECOME- WHAT AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE TO HUMANITY! |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by longweekend58 on Mar 26th, 2016 at 5:06pm stunspore wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 2:15pm:
2013... Labors primary vote was its LOWEST in 80 years. now tell me again why that is anything but a slaughter. |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Mar 26th, 2016 at 5:08pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 5:06pm:
Howard and Costello never denied what Hawke and Keating did and the libs are now a joke for the rest of the asian century that we built because of copper internet: IMAGINE VOTING LIBERAL I TELL YA.... WHAT A F'N SCREAM THAT WOULD BE... NO WONDER THEY SMOKE BORING CRACK ...that's not even mentioning what Howard did and then there was the pointless Costello... you're all f'n fubared for the next century with your pretty haircuts and nothing to say as per usual! WHAT A bugger**** DISGRACE THE LIBERAL PARTY HAS BECOME- WHAT AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE TO HUMANITY! |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by stunspore on Mar 26th, 2016 at 5:25pm
Drop in primary votes? Big deal. It's the results that matters, such as the preferences that is far more relevant. Primary only gets you so far. If primary matters more, than why do polls focus far more on the after preferences result?
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by longweekend58 on Mar 26th, 2016 at 6:41pm stunspore wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 5:25pm:
preferences wont save you with the lowest primary vote in 80 years. you still have to get primary votes otherwise preferences wont help you. |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Leftwinger on Mar 26th, 2016 at 6:53pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 6:41pm:
All those votes against Labor, and what was it, the biggest defeat in 80 years.................... and still you cant pass any legislation ;D ;D , has it sunk in yet it isn't the senates that's the problem :'( |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by Dnarever on Mar 26th, 2016 at 9:57pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:32am:
even if it means you have to deny irrefutable evidence Rubbish sounds more like you defending the Liberals. but it was just a statement and it is one that has a strong element of truth. It came from a TV comedy and was written as a joke line funny because it is meaningless. that has a strong element of truth None what so ever. |
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Title: Re: Turncoat looking Weak, Stupid and Clueless Post by stunspore on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:20am
Guess i define electoral slaughter by how many seats won/lost. After all, having the most votes don't win you the government, as numerous elections have shown. But I guess long has to focus on any positives for lib/nats and negatives for labs/others as part of his dogmatic views.
In any case the inhouse fighting with the libs will take care of half the battle? http://www.afr.com/news/politics/pm-malcolm-turnbull-says-tony-abbott-wrong-to-claim-credit-for-election-agenda-20160321-gnnvx0 Turnbull admits Abbott a hindrance for re-election. http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/the-road-to-ruin-book-says-christopher-pyne-believed-he-would-lose-his-seat-under-tony-abbotts-leadership/news-story/5dde11c176846bedc876c29cc332282b Abbott's close mate scared of Abbott? |
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