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Message started by Armchair_Politician on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:27pm

Title: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:27pm
Belgian ambassador labels Malcolm Turnbull’s comments linking refugee crisis with Brussels attacks as ‘dangerous’

The Belgian Ambassador to Australia has labelled Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull’s comments as “dangerous”, after he linked the European refugee crisis with the deadly Brussels terror attacks.

During a speech at the Lowy Institute yesterday, Mr Turnbull speculated the Islamic State (ISIL) is taking advantage of the crisis to sneak extremists into Europe.

“The attacks in Brussels are an unfortunate reminder of how Islamist extremism appears to have reached a crisis point in Europe,” he said.

“Recent intelligence indicates ISIL is using the refugee crisis to send operatives into Europe.”

In response to the speech Belgium’s Ambassador to Australia, Jean-Luc Bodson, warned against linking the two problems.

“It’s dangerous because it’s precisely what (ISIL) wants – that we would make a confusion between terrorism and migrants and between terrorism and Islam,” he told ABC News.

Mr Bodson went on to say that it was his belief the terrorists behind the Brussels and Paris attacks were Europe born, not migrants.

“(They) are European-raised and born. Maybe from foreign origins, but they are Europeans.

“So it has nothing to do with the refugee crisis and I think that is the main danger to assimilate that.”

© ninemsn 2016

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2016/03/24/14/18/belgian-ambassador-labels-turnbull-s-comments-linking-refugee-crisis-with-attacks-dangerous

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:30pm
It's abundantly clear that the Belgian Ambassador to Australia is completely clueless when it comes to the tactics of ISIL. It's a widely accepted fact that some of those terrorists involved in the deadly Paris attacks were able to get into France by posing as refugees fleeing from Syria. For the Belgian Ambassador to Australia to say that there is "confusion between terrorism and migrants and between terrorism and Islam" just proves not only how hopelessly clueless he is, but also how much he doesn't want to face the facts.

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by John Smith on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:30pm
sounds to me like he has a better idea then you or Turncoat. The bombers appear to have been Belgium born and have nothing to do with the asylum seekers.

Stop using terrorists as a way to attack asylum seekers.

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:36pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:30pm:
sounds to me like he has a better idea then you or Turncoat. The bombers appear to have been Belgium born and have nothing to do with the asylum seekers.

Stop using terrorists as a way to attack asylum seekers.


Stop using country shoppers to defend terrorists, scrotum hair.

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by John Smith on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:38pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:30pm:
sounds to me like he has a better idea then you or Turncoat. The bombers appear to have been Belgium born and have nothing to do with the asylum seekers.

Stop using terrorists as a way to attack asylum seekers.


Stop using country shoppers to defend terrorists, scrotum hair.



see, this is where your stupidity shines though ..... who has even defended terrorists?

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:42pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:38pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:30pm:
sounds to me like he has a better idea then you or Turncoat. The bombers appear to have been Belgium born and have nothing to do with the asylum seekers.

Stop using terrorists as a way to attack asylum seekers.


Stop using country shoppers to defend terrorists, scrotum hair.



see, this is where your stupidity shines though ..... who has even defended terrorists?


YOU. For some unknown reason you keep saying these attacks have nothing to do with Islam and we have no reason to fear these people who want to come here.

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by John Smith on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:45pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:38pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:30pm:
sounds to me like he has a better idea then you or Turncoat. The bombers appear to have been Belgium born and have nothing to do with the asylum seekers.

Stop using terrorists as a way to attack asylum seekers.


Stop using country shoppers to defend terrorists, scrotum hair.



see, this is where your stupidity shines though ..... who has even defended terrorists?


YOU. For some unknown reason you keep saying these attacks have nothing to do with Islam and we have no reason to fear these people who want to come here.


I know you're a little slow, so I'll repeat the question

who has ever defended terrorists?





you do know what 'defended' means don't you?

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by Kiron22 on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:03pm
Have any of these terrorists been refugees? Seems like they've all been citizens of the countries they live in and grew up there so far.

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by John Smith on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:26pm

Kiron22 wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:03pm:
Have any of these terrorists been refugees? Seems like they've all been citizens of the countries they live in and grew up there so far.


no refugees. they were born and bred on the european mainland.

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by The Grappler on Mar 24th, 2016 at 10:58pm
Yes - these d1cks were bred 'in-house'... makes you wonder about the long-term effects of importing genuine families of a certain persuasion, and accepting that they are one generation removed from the disaster that is the Middle East....

Something wrong with the brain/gene link there....... and not only on the side of those who choose to play jihad here..... In the West, I mean........

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by Yadda on Mar 24th, 2016 at 11:31pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:27pm:

Belgian ambassador ........


.......

Mr Bodson went on to say that it was his belief the terrorists behind the Brussels and Paris attacks were Europe born, not migrants.

“(They) are European-raised and born. Maybe from foreign origins, but they are Europeans.


......but it has got nothing to do with ISLAM!!!                :P

Honest !!!               :D





Mr Bodson = = the willfully ignorant.




Quote:

Jihad in Brussels

by Judith Bergman  •  March 24, 2016 at 6:00 am

    "Islam belongs in Europe.... I am not afraid to say that political Islam should be part of the picture." — Federica Mogherini, EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy.

    The Western narrative represents a complete refusal to examine the doctrines of Islam, out of fear of offending Muslims. This is not a purely European phenomenon. The Obama Administration ordered a cleansing of training materials that Islamic groups deemed offensive.

    One crucial aspect of sharia that which the West refuses to internalize is the injunction to perform jihad, both violent and non-violent.

    "[T]he most important factor is Belgium's culture of denial... Observers who point to unpleasant truths such as the high incidence of crime among Moroccan youth and violent tendencies in radical Islam are accused of being propagandists of the extreme-right, and are subsequently ignored and ostracized." — Teun Voten, a Dutch cultural anthropologist who lived in a Muslim area of Brussels between 2005 and 2014.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7685/jihad-in-brussels




Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1434160480/0#0

Quote:

The word,
           ignorance
comes from the root;
           to ignore


Dictionary;
ignore = = disregard intentionally.     fail to consider (something significant).



Dictionary;
ignorant, ignorance = =
1 lacking knowledge or awareness in general.     uninformed about or unaware of a specific subject or fact.
2 discourteous.
3 easily angered.




Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by The Mechanic on Mar 25th, 2016 at 4:39am

John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:30pm:
sounds to me like he has a better idea then you or Turncoat. The bombers appear to have been Belgium born and have nothing to do with the asylum seekers.

Stop using terrorists as a way to attack asylum seekers.


fair dinkum... its any wonder you vote labor.. you are as clueless as the Belbian Ambassador and as politically retarded as kat...

you don't assemble bikes at Kmart for a living do you?

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by The Mechanic on Mar 25th, 2016 at 4:41am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:38pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:30pm:
sounds to me like he has a better idea then you or Turncoat. The bombers appear to have been Belgium born and have nothing to do with the asylum seekers.

Stop using terrorists as a way to attack asylum seekers.


Stop using country shoppers to defend terrorists, scrotum hair.



see, this is where your stupidity shines though ..... who has even defended terrorists?


YOU. For some unknown reason you keep saying these attacks have nothing to do with Islam and we have no reason to fear these people who want to come here.


it seems that every Terrorist supporter is either a Labor or greens voter..

ever notice that>>??

and/or on welfare...

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by John Smith on Mar 25th, 2016 at 9:49am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 4:39am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:30pm:
sounds to me like he has a better idea then you or Turncoat. The bombers appear to have been Belgium born and have nothing to do with the asylum seekers.

Stop using terrorists as a way to attack asylum seekers.


fair dinkum... its any wonder you vote labor.. you are as clueless as the Belbian Ambassador and as politically retarded as kat...

you don't assemble bikes at Kmart for a living do you?



no, I play with engines ... oh wait, that's you  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 26th, 2016 at 7:32am

John Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 9:49am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 4:39am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:30pm:
sounds to me like he has a better idea then you or Turncoat. The bombers appear to have been Belgium born and have nothing to do with the asylum seekers.

Stop using terrorists as a way to attack asylum seekers.


fair dinkum... its any wonder you vote labor.. you are as clueless as the Belbian Ambassador and as politically retarded as kat...

you don't assemble bikes at Kmart for a living do you?



no, I play with engines ... oh wait, that's you  ;D ;D ;D


So you deny that a number of terrorists involved in the Paris attack had made their way into France by posing as refugees?

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by cods on Mar 26th, 2016 at 7:46am
the point it.. these people went overseas to fight the good fight.. and were allowed to return to Belgium ..

we have learned there are almost whole towns where the majority of the 500 Belgiums who left for overseas live....

now shoudnt that have been a RED FLAG?..

if you had 50 wannabee terrorists living in your neck of the woods..wouldnt you expect someone to know about it???..

and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT...

maybe the lefties wouldnt but I know I would.

and yes I would expect  my AMBASSADORS to want the security in their own country to be the BEST.

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by Labor voter on Mar 26th, 2016 at 8:05am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:38pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:30pm:
sounds to me like he has a better idea then you or Turncoat. The bombers appear to have been Belgium born and have nothing to do with the asylum seekers.

Stop using terrorists as a way to attack asylum seekers.


Stop using country shoppers to defend terrorists, scrotum hair.



see, this is where your stupidity shines though ..... who has even defended terrorists?


YOU. For some unknown reason you keep saying these attacks have nothing to do with Islam and we have no reason to fear these people who want to come here.


Well JS is right terrorists haven't got anything to do with Islam. It is all you raciest trying to tired  terrorists with Islam


Quote:
Every Suicide Attack in the World Says About ISIS’ Motives

More than anything, the terrorist group’s outward expressions of religious fervor serve its secular objectives of controlling resources and territory.

http://www.thenation.com/article/heres-what-a-man-who-studied-every-suicide-attack-in-the-world-says-about-isiss-motives/

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by GordyL on Mar 26th, 2016 at 8:08am

cods wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 7:46am:
the point it.. these people went overseas to fight the good fight.. and were allowed to return to Belgium ..

we have learned there are almost whole towns where the majority of the 500 Belgiums who left for overseas live....

now shoudnt that have been a RED FLAG?..

if you had 50 wannabee terrorists living in your neck of the woods..wouldnt you expect someone to know about it???..

and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT...

maybe the lefties wouldnt but I know I would.

and yes I would expect  my AMBASSADORS to want the security in their own country to be the BEST.


Noticed how certain types think the authorities are too harsh regarding people traveling to Syria?

One thing in our favor is our relative isolation and we have a natural border (which certain types would would have us not enforce.)

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by cods on Mar 26th, 2016 at 8:19am

GordyL wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 8:08am:

cods wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 7:46am:
the point it.. these people went overseas to fight the good fight.. and were allowed to return to Belgium ..

we have learned there are almost whole towns where the majority of the 500 Belgiums who left for overseas live....

now shoudnt that have been a RED FLAG?..

if you had 50 wannabee terrorists living in your neck of the woods..wouldnt you expect someone to know about it???..

and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT...

maybe the lefties wouldnt but I know I would.

and yes I would expect  my AMBASSADORS to want the security in their own country to be the BEST.


Noticed how certain types think the authorities are too harsh regarding people traveling to Syria?

One thing in our favor is our relative isolation and we have a natural border (which certain types would would have us not enforce.)




but thanks to our senate.....we do have 30 returned wannabee jihadist..on our shores and they are just the ones that returned.....we also have quite a few on security watch... plus cells building up b ehind almost every mosque....

I think all Mosques should be built in Labor held domains.. as they seem to be the only ones that hav e such an understanding of them..and see no harm...

why is the ISLAMIC STATE called the ISLAMIC if it has nothing to do with ISLAM?..

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:11am

Labor voter wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 8:05am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:38pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:30pm:
sounds to me like he has a better idea then you or Turncoat. The bombers appear to have been Belgium born and have nothing to do with the asylum seekers.

Stop using terrorists as a way to attack asylum seekers.


Stop using country shoppers to defend terrorists, scrotum hair.



see, this is where your stupidity shines though ..... who has even defended terrorists?


YOU. For some unknown reason you keep saying these attacks have nothing to do with Islam and we have no reason to fear these people who want to come here.


Well JS is right terrorists haven't got anything to do with Islam. It is all you raciest trying to tired  terrorists with Islam


Quote:
Every Suicide Attack in the World Says About ISIS’ Motives

More than anything, the terrorist group’s outward expressions of religious fervor serve its secular objectives of controlling resources and territory.

http://www.thenation.com/article/heres-what-a-man-who-studied-every-suicide-attack-in-the-world-says-about-isiss-motives/


How can one be racist toward Islam or Muslims when it isn't a race, but a religion?

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:14am

cods wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 8:19am:

GordyL wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 8:08am:

cods wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 7:46am:
the point it.. these people went overseas to fight the good fight.. and were allowed to return to Belgium ..

we have learned there are almost whole towns where the majority of the 500 Belgiums who left for overseas live....

now shoudnt that have been a RED FLAG?..

if you had 50 wannabee terrorists living in your neck of the woods..wouldnt you expect someone to know about it???..

and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT...

maybe the lefties wouldnt but I know I would.

and yes I would expect  my AMBASSADORS to want the security in their own country to be the BEST.


Noticed how certain types think the authorities are too harsh regarding people traveling to Syria?

One thing in our favor is our relative isolation and we have a natural border (which certain types would would have us not enforce.)




but thanks to our senate.....we do have 30 returned wannabee jihadist..on our shores and they are just the ones that returned.....we also have quite a few on security watch... plus cells building up b ehind almost every mosque....

I think all Mosques should be built in Labor held domains.. as they seem to be the only ones that hav e such an understanding of them..and see no harm...

why is the ISLAMIC STATE called the ISLAMIC if it has nothing to do with ISLAM?..


All mosques in Australia should be legislated so that Imams must give their services in English. There is one leading Imam in Sydney who does exactly that. His reason? This is Australia, not the Middle East and as such, most people here speak English and so he insists on his services being conducted in English. Look at the Grand Mufti, an Egyptian who came here 20-odd years ago. He still can't speak a word of English. This is part of the problem with young Muslims being radicalised - they aren't assimilating with our culture.

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by stunspore on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:33am
Yet another crazy thought - trying to mandate what language is used.  No need to dignify the thought bubble with a rebuttal I think.

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by Frank on Mar 26th, 2016 at 3:27pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:26pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:03pm:
Have any of these terrorists been refugees? Seems like they've all been citizens of the countries they live in and grew up there so far.


no refugees. they were born and bred on the european mainland.

They are all Muslims, without exception.

Headline sums it all up:
"Rebecca Mansour: Devout Catholics ‘Inevitably Led Toward Being Like Mother Teresa,’ Devout Muslims Led To Jihad"

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 26th, 2016 at 4:03pm

stunspore wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:33am:
Yet another crazy thought - trying to mandate what language is used.  No need to dignify the thought bubble with a rebuttal I think.


The average person has no idea what is said when services are given in Arabic. But besides the security aspect, I think it would be worthwhile for all new citizens and immigrants to learn English so that they can properly assimilate with the people of this country, don't you?

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 26th, 2016 at 4:20pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 4:03pm:

stunspore wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:33am:
Yet another crazy thought - trying to mandate what language is used.  No need to dignify the thought bubble with a rebuttal I think.


The average person has no idea what is said when services are given in Arabic. But besides the security aspect, I think it would be worthwhile for all new citizens and immigrants to learn English so that they can properly assimilate with the people of this country, don't you?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsPDT5qHtZ4

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by cods on Mar 26th, 2016 at 4:42pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:14am:

cods wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 8:19am:

GordyL wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 8:08am:

cods wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 7:46am:
the point it.. these people went overseas to fight the good fight.. and were allowed to return to Belgium ..

we have learned there are almost whole towns where the majority of the 500 Belgiums who left for overseas live....

now shoudnt that have been a RED FLAG?..

if you had 50 wannabee terrorists living in your neck of the woods..wouldnt you expect someone to know about it???..

and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT...

maybe the lefties wouldnt but I know I would.

and yes I would expect  my AMBASSADORS to want the security in their own country to be the BEST.


Noticed how certain types think the authorities are too harsh regarding people traveling to Syria?

One thing in our favor is our relative isolation and we have a natural border (which certain types would would have us not enforce.)




but thanks to our senate.....we do have 30 returned wannabee jihadist..on our shores and they are just the ones that returned.....we also have quite a few on security watch... plus cells building up b ehind almost every mosque....

I think all Mosques should be built in Labor held domains.. as they seem to be the only ones that hav e such an understanding of them..and see no harm...

why is the ISLAMIC STATE called the ISLAMIC if it has nothing to do with ISLAM?..


All mosques in Australia should be legislated so that Imams must give their services in English. There is one leading Imam in Sydney who does exactly that. His reason? This is Australia, not the Middle East and as such, most people here speak English and so he insists on his services being conducted in English. Look at the Grand Mufti, an Egyptian who came here 20-odd years ago. He still can't speak a word of English. This is part of the problem with young Muslims being radicalised - they aren't assimilating with our culture.



what about Latin ap.... and Yiddish..

its only a custom...

I dont understand what is said in any church...

its good to know you do..

I think you are over reacting...

Title: Re: Belgian Ambassador to Australia is clueless
Post by cods on Mar 26th, 2016 at 4:44pm
maybe that  should read.,.Hebrew I am not sure....shows how much I dont know..sorry If I upset anyone..

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