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Message started by Sir Crook on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 6:40am

Title: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Sir Crook on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 6:40am
Jacqui Lambie On The ABCC Bill: 'There's More Holes In It Than A Target At The Shooting Range'
HuffPost Australia

Posted: 21/03/2016


Jacqui Lambie will be voting against the construction corruption watchdog legislation, but managed to keep her sense of humour over the double dissolution, saying it was "like a Tatts lotto drawn on a Saturday night".   :)

Speaking on Q&A on Monday night, Lambie said the ABCC bill has "more holes in it than a target at a shooting range".

She said she doesn't buy Commissioner Dyson Heydon's claims that the findings of the Royal Commission into trade union corruption show "widespread and deep-seated" corruption.

"I can tell you what is contained in those secret reports -- there is nothing there that is not normal that happens on the outside and in other places, whether that's even what's going on in our banking and finance sector," Lambie told the audience on Q&A.

"I don't know what the Royal Commissioner is trying to pull here but there is nothing that even resembles a grave threat to the power and authority of the Australian states.

"What I have seen has been very disappointing for $80 million of your taxpayers' money." 

Lambie said she would not be blackmailed and the fate of her seat lies in the hands of Tasmanians, as she vowed to keep "the bastards honest" in Canberra.   :)

But when Tony Jones said Lambie could end up with a few senate seats in Tasmania after the senate voting legislation was passed, Lambie -- who has established the Jacqui Lambie Network -- played along.

"With the double D coming up, it will be like the Tatts Lotto on a Saturday night," Lambie said to a crowd of laughter.   :D

Sitting beside Lambie on the panel, Liberal MP Josh Frydenberg argued the construction corruption watchdog bills were "important economic reform".



    — ABC Q&A (@QandA) March 21, 2016

Liberal Democrats Senator David Lehjonhelm and Senator Ricky Muir both said they would not vote in favour of the ABCC legislation in its current form, while Glenn Lazarus wants the bill to be broadened to cover corruption in banking, finance and politics.

Six crossbenchers need to vote in favour of the bills, otherwise there will be an early double dissolution election on July 2. Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull announced the move, along with bringing the budget forward in a shock announcement on Monday morning.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by miketrees on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:01am
Anything could happen at the vote in the Senate.
Including Libs and Labs crossing the floor.
Or Senators mysteriously being absent.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:02am
Well done Ms Lambie for coming out and telling us what we all know , we need a national corruption watchdog , why do the Libtards not want a blanket approach to corruption Australia  :(

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by bogarde73 on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:15am
Everyone except Leftwinger - hear no evil, see no evil.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:24am

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:15am:
Everyone except Leftwinger - hear no evil, see no evil.


What part of blanket approach did you miss ?

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:28am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.


And everybody knows the Libtards want a docile compliant workforce that will come in for 3rd world country wages , sadly for the Libtards we will continue to fight whilst you enjoy the benefits that come with it.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Sir Crook on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:29am
Some employers need to be looked at as well.   :(

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by cods on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:35am
Lambie got her job under false pretenses some prefer to forget that???>..

she has noi right to her opinion or vote...as far as I am concerned..

GET IN UNDER YOUR OWN STEAM LAMBIE .. then I might take notice of you.

in the mean time you also shot the person in the back that was responsible for getting you into the senate...

lets not forget that either...

so another one not to be trusted at any price.. >:( >:( >:(

you may forget all that crook when it suits your cause..
'
but some of us dont.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by cods on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:36am

wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:29am:
Some employers need to be looked at as well.   :(



thats what members employ their UNIONS to do..

or do you forget that bit?..

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:39am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.

Except Heydon didn’t find any evidence of it.

Meanwhile, there have been scandals in the finance/banking/wealth management area, bullying of employees in 7/11 and other companies.

Howard’s ABCC cost over $100m, caused a drop in productivity and more injuries and fatalities on construction sites. Productivity surged after the star chamber ABCC was abolished.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:40am

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:15am:
Everyone except Leftwinger - hear no evil, see no evil.


Why did Heydon find bugger all then?

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Redneck on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:44am

cods wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:35am:
Lambie got her job under false pretenses some prefer to forget that???>..

she has noi right to her opinion or vote...as far as I am concerned..

GET IN UNDER YOUR OWN STEAM LAMBIE .. then I might take notice of you.

in the mean time you also shot the person in the back that was responsible for getting you into the senate...

lets not forget that either...

so another one not to be trusted at any price.. >:( >:( >:(

you may forget all that crook when it suits your cause..
'
but some of us dont.


CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP  >:(

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Sir Crook on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:44am
Seems like some on here want the senate to be a rubber stamp.  When it suits them.   :( 

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:50am

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:39am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.

Except Heydon didn’t find any evidence of it.

Meanwhile, there have been scandals in the finance/banking/wealth management area, bullying of employees in 7/11 and other companies.

Howard’s ABCC cost over $100m, caused a drop in productivity and more injuries and fatalities on construction sites. Productivity surged after the star chamber ABCC was abolished.



oh really?  so the 100 or so CMFEU people before the courts is... nothing?


you are a really really dumb schmuck.  You dont even accept things that are obvious.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by skippy. on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:57am

cods wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:35am:
Lambie got her job under false pretenses some prefer to forget that???>..

she has noi right to her opinion or vote...as far as I am concerned..

GET IN UNDER YOUR OWN STEAM LAMBIE .. then I might take notice of you.

in the mean time you also shot the person in the back that was responsible for getting you into the senate...

lets not forget that either...

so another one not to be trusted at any price.. >:( >:( >:(

you may forget all that crook when it suits your cause..
'
but some of us dont.

I expect come July 2 she will get in under her " own steam". She is probably one of the indenpendents that will be returned.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 8:24am
Lets hope the rest of the senate stay staunch and tell the Libs to get knotted , bring on the DD

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Labor voter on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 8:29am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:50am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:39am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.

Except Heydon didn’t find any evidence of it.

Meanwhile, there have been scandals in the finance/banking/wealth management area, bullying of employees in 7/11 and other companies.

Howard’s ABCC cost over $100m, caused a drop in productivity and more injuries and fatalities on construction sites. Productivity surged after the star chamber ABCC was abolished.



oh really?  so the 100 or so CMFEU people before the courts is... nothing?


you are a really really dumb schmuck.  You dont even accept things that are obvious.



How many has  been found guilty in a court of law, or do think they are guilty now?

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Kat on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 8:32am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
[color=#ff0000]Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
[/color]They need to be looked at.


And everyone knows that the same applies to business and banking - probably even more so.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by lee on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 11:13am
'Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed'

If there is a DD and full Senate election Jacqui may find herself blackballed. ;)

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 11:17am
She's quite happy to do the blackmailing, though! What a hypocrite. Who remembers her refusal to vote for ANY government legislation in the Senate unless she got a Defence pay rise that she wanted? Oh, the hypocrisy!

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 11:18am

Kat wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 8:32am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
[color=#ff0000]Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
[/color]They need to be looked at.


And everyone knows that the same applies to business and banking - probably even more so.


Wrong.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 11:19am

Kat wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 8:32am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
[color=#ff0000]Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
[/color]They need to be looked at.


And everyone knows that the same applies to business and banking - probably even more so.


Absolutely.  Without a doubt.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 11:27am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 11:19am:

Kat wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 8:32am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
[color=#ff0000]Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
[/color]They need to be looked at.


And everyone knows that the same applies to business and banking - probably even more so.


Absolutely.  Without a doubt.


Is the behaviour of some banking organisations immoral or unethical or profit-driven? Sure. is it illegal or corrupt? No. Try again.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Dsmithy70 on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 11:33am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 11:17am:
She's quite happy to do the blackmailing, though! What a hypocrite. Who remembers her refusal to vote for ANY government legislation in the Senate unless she got a Defence pay rise that she wanted? Oh, the hypocrisy!


Oh the IRONY

You much like our pollies love to dance & chest thump on dead soldiers graves, but pay them a decent wage, cover their ONGOING medical expense from injuries sustained during service?

F#$#K that, you might not be able to claim as much Neg Gear rebates if we have to pay those entitled brats.


Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Dsmithy70 on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 11:37am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 11:27am:
Is the behaviour of some banking organisations immoral or unethical or profit-driven? Sure. is it illegal or corrupt? No. Try again.


http://www.smh.com.au/comment/we-all-pay-the-price-when-businesses-break-our-trust-20160321-gnnyho.html

Try & read, it's a bit wordy compared to the Tele but struggle through & ask questions on the many things you probably don't understand.

Who knows you may actually learn something.................................or not.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Kiron22 on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 12:01pm
The ABCC was basically a Stasi-esque organization who's entire purpose was too create sense of fear and terror throughout the construction industry employees and Unions. Basically do anything and you can be dragged in front of some extra-judicial court with no human rights and be treated as essentially a terrorist.

>But all those CFMEU breaches, the CFMEU are soooooo corrupt!

The vast majority are minor breaches where Union officials entered building sites without going through the proper channels when called on by workers with safety concerns, other how about that other famous case when a workers bus almost got hit by a train so workers instantly went on strike until a train crossing was organized. Oh no, they didn't give a smacking weeks notice of industrial action so the company could organize scabs after a dozen workers came seconds away from being splatted across train tracks! The evil workers, better get the Sta.. I mean ABCC in boys! Or how about that other case when a company needed too reduce it's workforce, so they unfairly laid off some highly respected workers publicly, provoked a strike, then got the ABCC too round up the rest.

Basically Howard did everything in his power too destroy Unions, then waged a terror on the construction industry with Stasi thugs when the slightest civil disobedience arose.

There is no economic or even moral argument for the ABCC in a democratic society. Bring on the Federal ICAC if you want too fight corruption.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Kat on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 12:53pm
I'm not a fan of The Lambington, but I'm right behind her on this.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 12:56pm

Kat wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 12:53pm:
I'm not a fan of The Lambington, but I'm right behind her on this.


Surprise, surprise!  ::)

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 1:04pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:50am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:39am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.

Except Heydon didn’t find any evidence of it.

Meanwhile, there have been scandals in the finance/banking/wealth management area, bullying of employees in 7/11 and other companies.

Howard’s ABCC cost over $100m, caused a drop in productivity and more injuries and fatalities on construction sites. Productivity surged after the star chamber ABCC was abolished.



oh really?  so the 100 or so CMFEU people before the courts is... nothing?


you are a really really dumb schmuck.  You dont even accept things that are obvious.

100? You sure? How many convicted, how many cleared?

Try doing some fact finding and keep the abuse to yourself. Your abuse tells me you have no information, no rel argument.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Aussie on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 2:00pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 1:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:50am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:39am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.

Except Heydon didn’t find any evidence of it.

Meanwhile, there have been scandals in the finance/banking/wealth management area, bullying of employees in 7/11 and other companies.

Howard’s ABCC cost over $100m, caused a drop in productivity and more injuries and fatalities on construction sites. Productivity surged after the star chamber ABCC was abolished.



oh really?  so the 100 or so CMFEU people before the courts is... nothing?


you are a really really dumb schmuck.  You dont even accept things that are obvious.

100? You sure? How many convicted, how many cleared?

Try doing some fact finding and keep the abuse to yourself. Your abuse tells me you have no information, no rel argument.


Just more of the make believe garbage melielongtime posts.

45 is the number.

Link.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 2:07pm

Labor voter wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 8:29am:
so the 100 or so CMFEU people before the courts is... nothing?


Exaggeration?

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 2:15pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.


How many unions are you talking about?

And, how many thugs?

Use percentages, if you wish.


Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by John Smith on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 2:23pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 11:37am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 11:27am:
Is the behaviour of some banking organisations immoral or unethical or profit-driven? Sure. is it illegal or corrupt? No. Try again.


http://www.smh.com.au/comment/we-all-pay-the-price-when-businesses-break-our-trust-20160321-gnnyho.html

Try & read, it's a bit wordy compared to the Tele but struggle through & ask questions on the many things you probably don't understand.

Who knows you may actually learn something.................................or not.



good article

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by John Smith on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 2:24pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 1:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:50am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:39am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.

Except Heydon didn’t find any evidence of it.

Meanwhile, there have been scandals in the finance/banking/wealth management area, bullying of employees in 7/11 and other companies.

Howard’s ABCC cost over $100m, caused a drop in productivity and more injuries and fatalities on construction sites. Productivity surged after the star chamber ABCC was abolished.



oh really?  so the 100 or so CMFEU people before the courts is... nothing?


you are a really really dumb schmuck.  You dont even accept things that are obvious.

100? You sure? How many convicted, how many cleared?

Try doing some fact finding and keep the abuse to yourself. Your abuse tells me you have no information, no rel argument.



longie and his alter ego simply do not do facts. Stop asking for them.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 3:51pm

Labor voter wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 8:29am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:50am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:39am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.

Except Heydon didn’t find any evidence of it.

Meanwhile, there have been scandals in the finance/banking/wealth management area, bullying of employees in 7/11 and other companies.

Howard’s ABCC cost over $100m, caused a drop in productivity and more injuries and fatalities on construction sites. Productivity surged after the star chamber ABCC was abolished.



oh really?  so the 100 or so CMFEU people before the courts is... nothing?


you are a really really dumb schmuck.  You dont even accept things that are obvious.



How many has  been found guilty in a court of law, or do think they are guilty now?



due process takes time.  but if you think 100 people being charged and many others rebuked over their behaviour doesnt mean there is a problem then there is something wrong with you.  Why is it impossible for you to think that the CMFEU hasnt major problems with corruption and intimidation since it has been so for decades and is in fact a typical problem of construction unions the world over.

but not here of course.  no RC or investigation would ever convince you because you are an ideologue - incapable of independent thought.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by John Smith on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 3:53pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 3:51pm:
but if you think 100 people being charged and many others rebuked



but , as you've already been told, 100 people haven't been charged

your argument is as irrelevant as you!

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 3:53pm

Kiron22 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 12:01pm:
The ABCC was basically a Stasi-esque organization who's entire purpose was too create sense of fear and terror throughout the construction industry employees and Unions. Basically do anything and you can be dragged in front of some extra-judicial court with no human rights and be treated as essentially a terrorist.

>But all those CFMEU breaches, the CFMEU are soooooo corrupt!

The vast majority are minor breaches where Union officials entered building sites without going through the proper channels when called on by workers with safety concerns, other how about that other famous case when a workers bus almost got hit by a train so workers instantly went on strike until a train crossing was organized. Oh no, they didn't give a smacking weeks notice of industrial action so the company could organize scabs after a dozen workers came seconds away from being splatted across train tracks! The evil workers, better get the Sta.. I mean ABCC in boys! Or how about that other case when a company needed too reduce it's workforce, so they unfairly laid off some highly respected workers publicly, provoked a strike, then got the ABCC too round up the rest.

Basically Howard did everything in his power too destroy Unions, then waged a terror on the construction industry with Stasi thugs when the slightest civil disobedience arose.

There is no economic or even moral argument for the ABCC in a democratic society. Bring on the Federal ICAC if you want too fight corruption.



and our resident communist would know all about the Stasi and KGB.  might be useful though if you actually opposed such measure which as a communist, you dont.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 3:54pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 1:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:50am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:39am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.

Except Heydon didn’t find any evidence of it.

Meanwhile, there have been scandals in the finance/banking/wealth management area, bullying of employees in 7/11 and other companies.

Howard’s ABCC cost over $100m, caused a drop in productivity and more injuries and fatalities on construction sites. Productivity surged after the star chamber ABCC was abolished.



oh really?  so the 100 or so CMFEU people before the courts is... nothing?


you are a really really dumb schmuck.  You dont even accept things that are obvious.

100? You sure? How many convicted, how many cleared?

Try doing some fact finding and keep the abuse to yourself. Your abuse tells me you have no information, no rel argument.



the source of that number is the PM - a far more credible source than you.  got any proof of over-heating cabinets yet, twit-face?

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 3:58pm
So Longy got the number wrong. How unusual  ::) ;D

The PM is a politician, not to be trusted. This particular PM is so dumb he pinches slogans from a show satirising politicians!

So Heydon found no evidence of widespread corruption in the union movement.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:10pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 3:54pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 1:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:50am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:39am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.

Except Heydon didn’t find any evidence of it.

Meanwhile, there have been scandals in the finance/banking/wealth management area, bullying of employees in 7/11 and other companies.

Howard’s ABCC cost over $100m, caused a drop in productivity and more injuries and fatalities on construction sites. Productivity surged after the star chamber ABCC was abolished.



oh really?  so the 100 or so CMFEU people before the courts is... nothing?


you are a really really dumb schmuck.  You dont even accept things that are obvious.

100? You sure? How many convicted, how many cleared?

Try doing some fact finding and keep the abuse to yourself. Your abuse tells me you have no information, no rel argument.



the source of that number is the PM - a far more credible source than you.  got any proof of over-heating cabinets yet, twit-face?


You need to cite a reference.

100 CFMEU people?


Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:10pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 3:54pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 1:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:50am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:39am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.

Except Heydon didn’t find any evidence of it.

Meanwhile, there have been scandals in the finance/banking/wealth management area, bullying of employees in 7/11 and other companies.

Howard’s ABCC cost over $100m, caused a drop in productivity and more injuries and fatalities on construction sites. Productivity surged after the star chamber ABCC was abolished.



oh really?  so the 100 or so CMFEU people before the courts is... nothing?


you are a really really dumb schmuck.  You dont even accept things that are obvious.

100? You sure? How many convicted, how many cleared?

Try doing some fact finding and keep the abuse to yourself. Your abuse tells me you have no information, no rel argument.



the source of that number is the PM - a far more credible source than you.  got any proof of over-heating cabinets yet, twit-face?


You need to cite a reference.

100 CFMEU people?


If it came from a Lib PM it must be true  :D

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:13pm
Whens Maria coming back ya getting flogged , again

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:27pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 3:58pm:
So Longy got the number wrong. How unusual  ::) ;D

The PM is a politician, not to be trusted. This particular PM is so dumb he pinches slogans from a show satirising politicians!

So Heydon found no evidence of widespread corruption in the union movement.



your idiocy and lying are legendary.  to even state that Heydon found no evidence of corruption is as big a lie as you've told and you've told some whoppers of late. you don't have to agree with him, but you do NOT have the option to say different to what he actually said and wrote.


BTW found that overheating cabinet yet, liar-monk?

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by John Smith on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:33pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 3:54pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 1:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:50am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:39am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.

Except Heydon didn’t find any evidence of it.

Meanwhile, there have been scandals in the finance/banking/wealth management area, bullying of employees in 7/11 and other companies.

Howard’s ABCC cost over $100m, caused a drop in productivity and more injuries and fatalities on construction sites. Productivity surged after the star chamber ABCC was abolished.



oh really?  so the 100 or so CMFEU people before the courts is... nothing?


you are a really really dumb schmuck.  You dont even accept things that are obvious.

100? You sure? How many convicted, how many cleared?

Try doing some fact finding and keep the abuse to yourself. Your abuse tells me you have no information, no rel argument.



the source of that number is the PM - a far more credible source than you.  got any proof of over-heating cabinets yet, twit-face?


isn't that the same source that was saying labors NBN was going to cost $80B ....  :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:42pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:27pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 3:58pm:
So Longy got the number wrong. How unusual  ::) ;D

The PM is a politician, not to be trusted. This particular PM is so dumb he pinches slogans from a show satirising politicians!

So Heydon found no evidence of widespread corruption in the union movement.



your idiocy and lying are legendary.  to even state that Heydon found no evidence of corruption is as big a lie as you've told and you've told some whoppers of late. you don't have to agree with him, but you do NOT have the option to say different to what he actually said and wrote.


He found no evidence of widespread corruption. The unionists Heydon found to be corrupt don’t seem to have any trouble clearing their names in court.



Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Aussie on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:48pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:27pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 3:58pm:
So Longy got the number wrong. How unusual  ::) ;D

The PM is a politician, not to be trusted. This particular PM is so dumb he pinches slogans from a show satirising politicians!

So Heydon found no evidence of widespread corruption in the union movement.



your idiocy and lying are legendary.  to even state that Heydon found no evidence of corruption is as big a lie as you've told and you've told some whoppers of late. you don't have to agree with him, but you do NOT have the option to say different to what he actually said and wrote.


BTW found that overheating cabinet yet, liar-monk?


Some hypocrisy there melielongtime.  You said there were 100 people, and you more recently claimed that Turnbull said there were 100 people.  Both of you are lying.

This list is here in this:

Link.

There are 45 'people.'

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by lee on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:09pm



Aussie wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:48pm:
Some hypocrisy there melielongtime.  You said there were 100 people, and you more recently claimed that Turnbull said there were 100 people.  Both of you are lying.

This list is here in this:

Link.

There are 45 'people.'



'"They are not the work of a few rogue unions, or a few rogue officials.

"The misconduct exhibits great variety. It is widespread. It is deep-seated.

"It would be utterly naďve to think that what has been uncovered is anything other than the small tip of an enormous iceberg.

"It is clear that in many parts of the world constituted by Australian trade union officials, there is room for louts, thugs, bullies, thieves, perjurers, those who threaten violence, errant fiduciaries and organisers of boycotts.

"There has been much perjury. A huge amount of the testimony given in hearings has been false to the knowledge of the witnesses."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-30/trade-union-royal-commission-findings-released/7059348

Does it say anywhere that the 45 figure you quoted is the extent of corruption?




Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by John Smith on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:11pm

lee wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:09pm:
Does it say anywhere that the 45 figure you quoted is the extent of corruption


so it doesn't say 100? :D :D :D

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by lee on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:11pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:42pm:
He found no evidence of widespread corruption.



"They are not the work of a few rogue unions, or a few rogue officials.

"The misconduct exhibits great variety. It is widespread. It is deep-seated."

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:13pm

lee wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:48pm:
Some hypocrisy there melielongtime.  You said there were 100 people, and you more recently claimed that Turnbull said there were 100 people.  Both of you are lying.

This list is here in this:

Link.

There are 45 'people.'



'"They are not the work of a few rogue unions, or a few rogue officials.

"The misconduct exhibits great variety. It is widespread. It is deep-seated.

"It would be utterly naďve to think that what has been uncovered is anything other than the small tip of an enormous iceberg.

"It is clear that in many parts of the world constituted by Australian trade union officials, there is room for louts, thugs, bullies, thieves, perjurers, those who threaten violence, errant fiduciaries and organisers of boycotts.

"There has been much perjury. A huge amount of the testimony given in hearings has been false to the knowledge of the witnesses."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-30/trade-union-royal-commission-findings-released/7059348

Does it say anywhere that the 45 figure you quoted is the extent of corruption?



and the above is what the stupid Monk calls 'heydon not finding any corruption'.

a bigger idiot would be hard to find., certainly monk is the biggest liar on here by a considerable margin.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by lee on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:13pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:11pm:
so it doesn't say 100?



Does it say there are only 45 or only 100?

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Aussie on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:17pm

lee wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:48pm:
Some hypocrisy there melielongtime.  You said there were 100 people, and you more recently claimed that Turnbull said there were 100 people.  Both of you are lying.

This list is here in this:

Link.

There are 45 'people.'



'"They are not the work of a few rogue unions, or a few rogue officials.

"The misconduct exhibits great variety. It is widespread. It is deep-seated.

"It would be utterly naďve to think that what has been uncovered is anything other than the small tip of an enormous iceberg.

"It is clear that in many parts of the world constituted by Australian trade union officials, there is room for louts, thugs, bullies, thieves, perjurers, those who threaten violence, errant fiduciaries and organisers of boycotts.

"There has been much perjury. A huge amount of the testimony given in hearings has been false to the knowledge of the witnesses."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-30/trade-union-royal-commission-findings-released/7059348

Does it say anywhere that the 45 figure you quoted is the extent of corruption?


Read the link.  It lists the 'people' and the alleged misdeeds.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Aussie on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:18pm

lee wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:11pm:
so it doesn't say 100?



Does it say there are only 45 or only 100?


It lists the actual 'people' and the actual alleged misdeeds.  Read the link.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:20pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:13pm:

lee wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:48pm:
Some hypocrisy there melielongtime.  You said there were 100 people, and you more recently claimed that Turnbull said there were 100 people.  Both of you are lying.

This list is here in this:

Link.

There are 45 'people.'



'"They are not the work of a few rogue unions, or a few rogue officials.

"The misconduct exhibits great variety. It is widespread. It is deep-seated.

"It would be utterly naďve to think that what has been uncovered is anything other than the small tip of an enormous iceberg.

"It is clear that in many parts of the world constituted by Australian trade union officials, there is room for louts, thugs, bullies, thieves, perjurers, those who threaten violence, errant fiduciaries and organisers of boycotts.

"There has been much perjury. A huge amount of the testimony given in hearings has been false to the knowledge of the witnesses."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-30/trade-union-royal-commission-findings-released/7059348

Does it say anywhere that the 45 figure you quoted is the extent of corruption?



and the above is what the stupid Monk calls 'heydon not finding any corruption'.

a bigger idiot would be hard to find., certainly monk is the biggest liar on here by a considerable margin.


Dear old Longy leaves out the “widespread” in my post.



Apparently you can use real photos of and accuse members of rooting their living (and 10 year dead) dogs here and not be punished. Much else in that foul avatar is offensive and abusive. But is OK, apparently.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by lee on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:23pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:18pm:
It lists the actual 'people' and the actual alleged misdeeds.  Read the link.



I bet that doesn't include anybody in -

Volume 6 – Confidential Volume – not publicly available

https://www.tradeunionroyalcommission.gov.au/reports/Pages/Final-Report.aspx

So you really have no idea of the number involved, merely the number named.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:26pm

lee wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:23pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:18pm:
It lists the actual 'people' and the actual alleged misdeeds.  Read the link.



I bet that doesn't include anybody in -

Volume 6 – Confidential Volume – not publicly available

https://www.tradeunionroyalcommission.gov.au/reports/Pages/Final-Report.aspx

So you really have no idea of the number involved, merely the number named.


Hooboy, Lambi showed that up for the wank that it really is on Monday, eh?




Apparently you can use real photos of and accuse members of rooting their living (and 10 year dead) dogs here and not be punished. Much else in that foul avatar is offensive and abusive. But is OK, apparently.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by lee on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:29pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:26pm:
Hooboy, Lambi showed that up for the wank that it really is on Monday, eh?



Link please.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:30pm
Q&A Monday night.

Find your own link, was discussed here enough!




Apparently you can use real photos of and accuse members of rooting their living (and 10 year dead) dogs here and not be punished. Much else in that foul avatar is offensive and abusive. But is OK, apparently.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by lee on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:36pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:30pm:
Q&A Monday night.

Find your own link, was discussed here enough!



Ok.I looked. Jacqui Lambie; the one who is going to vote against all government legislation? So it doesn't really matter what she says. It will just help her justify her stance.

Politicians - you just can't trust them.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:25pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:27pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 3:58pm:
So Longy got the number wrong. How unusual  ::) ;D

The PM is a politician, not to be trusted. This particular PM is so dumb he pinches slogans from a show satirising politicians!

So Heydon found no evidence of widespread corruption in the union movement.



your idiocy and lying are legendary.  to even state that Heydon found no evidence of corruption is as big a lie as you've told and you've told some whoppers of late. you don't have to agree with him, but you do NOT have the option to say different to what he actually said and wrote.


He found no evidence of widespread corruption. The unionists Heydon found to be corrupt don’t seem to have any trouble clearing their names in court.


Depends on your definition of "widespread". There's a few dozen exec-level union hacks in lots of trouble right now. Then there's the 30 or 40 or so union thugs who are in strife from the RC.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Aussie on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:39pm

Quote:
There's a few dozen exec-level union hacks in lots of trouble right now. Then there's the 30 or 40 or so union thugs who are in strife from the RC.


On my reckoning 'few' meaning three ~ that means we have, according to you, minimum 66 'people' in the cross hairs.  Nah.

It is 45.  Simple as that.  45.  Etch it in your brain please.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:41pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:39pm:

Quote:
There's a few dozen exec-level union hacks in lots of trouble right now. Then there's the 30 or 40 or so union thugs who are in strife from the RC.


On my reckoning 'few' meaning three ~ that means we have, according to you, minimum 66 'people' in the cross hairs.  Nah.

It is 45.  Simple as that.  45.  Etch it in your brain please.



always the apologist - even if it means lying. no wonder you were disbarred.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Dnarever on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:43pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.


As Jackie said just like in banking finance and most other corporations.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Dnarever on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:46pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:25pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:27pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 3:58pm:
So Longy got the number wrong. How unusual  ::) ;D

The PM is a politician, not to be trusted. This particular PM is so dumb he pinches slogans from a show satirising politicians!

So Heydon found no evidence of widespread corruption in the union movement.



your idiocy and lying are legendary.  to even state that Heydon found no evidence of corruption is as big a lie as you've told and you've told some whoppers of late. you don't have to agree with him, but you do NOT have the option to say different to what he actually said and wrote.


He found no evidence of widespread corruption. The unionists Heydon found to be corrupt don’t seem to have any trouble clearing their names in court.


Depends on your definition of "widespread". There's a few dozen exec-level union hacks in lots of trouble right now. Then there's the 30 or 40 or so union thugs who are in strife from the RC.


Then there's the 30 or 40 or so union thugs who are in strife from the RC


From memory it is about 18 who have been referred to see if they have done anything illegal half of which will never be charged.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Aussie on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:49pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:41pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:39pm:

Quote:
There's a few dozen exec-level union hacks in lots of trouble right now. Then there's the 30 or 40 or so union thugs who are in strife from the RC.


On my reckoning 'few' meaning three ~ that means we have, according to you, minimum 66 'people' in the cross hairs.  Nah.

It is 45.  Simple as that.  45.  Etch it in your brain please.



always the apologist - even if it means lying. no wonder you were disbarred.


Ordinarily, I'd report that, but it seems no-one including FD or Hicks cares less anymore about personal abuse here.  I'll simply say....no, I have never been disbarred.  I am retired and my name remains, as it always has, on the Rolls of the Supreme Court of Queensland and the High Court of Australia.

Read the link.  The 45 are listed.

Link.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by The Grappler on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:52pm
Put Lambie down for a Knighthood..... it takes guts to stand up against those thugs in government...

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Aussie on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:53pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:46pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:25pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:27pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 3:58pm:
So Longy got the number wrong. How unusual  ::) ;D

The PM is a politician, not to be trusted. This particular PM is so dumb he pinches slogans from a show satirising politicians!

So Heydon found no evidence of widespread corruption in the union movement.



your idiocy and lying are legendary.  to even state that Heydon found no evidence of corruption is as big a lie as you've told and you've told some whoppers of late. you don't have to agree with him, but you do NOT have the option to say different to what he actually said and wrote.


He found no evidence of widespread corruption. The unionists Heydon found to be corrupt don’t seem to have any trouble clearing their names in court.


Depends on your definition of "widespread". There's a few dozen exec-level union hacks in lots of trouble right now. Then there's the 30 or 40 or so union thugs who are in strife from the RC.


Then there's the 30 or 40 or so union thugs who are in strife from the RC


From memory it is about 18 who have been referred to see if they have done anything illegal half of which will never be charged.


One alleged Canberra Union thug, Lomax, on the recommendation of the Royal Commission, was charged ~ only later, those charges were withdrawn.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Mr Hammer on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:55pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:53pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:46pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:25pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:27pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 3:58pm:
So Longy got the number wrong. How unusual  ::) ;D

The PM is a politician, not to be trusted. This particular PM is so dumb he pinches slogans from a show satirising politicians!

So Heydon found no evidence of widespread corruption in the union movement.



your idiocy and lying are legendary.  to even state that Heydon found no evidence of corruption is as big a lie as you've told and you've told some whoppers of late. you don't have to agree with him, but you do NOT have the option to say different to what he actually said and wrote.


He found no evidence of widespread corruption. The unionists Heydon found to be corrupt don’t seem to have any trouble clearing their names in court.


Depends on your definition of "widespread". There's a few dozen exec-level union hacks in lots of trouble right now. Then there's the 30 or 40 or so union thugs who are in strife from the RC.


Then there's the 30 or 40 or so union thugs who are in strife from the RC


From memory it is about 18 who have been referred to see if they have done anything illegal half of which will never be charged.


One alleged Canberra Union thug, Lomax, on the recommendation of the Royal Commission, was charged ~ only later, those charges were withdrawn.
So are you going to report him to the mods?

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Aussie on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 8:18pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:53pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:46pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:25pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:27pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 3:58pm:
So Longy got the number wrong. How unusual  ::) ;D

The PM is a politician, not to be trusted. This particular PM is so dumb he pinches slogans from a show satirising politicians!

So Heydon found no evidence of widespread corruption in the union movement.



your idiocy and lying are legendary.  to even state that Heydon found no evidence of corruption is as big a lie as you've told and you've told some whoppers of late. you don't have to agree with him, but you do NOT have the option to say different to what he actually said and wrote.


He found no evidence of widespread corruption. The unionists Heydon found to be corrupt don’t seem to have any trouble clearing their names in court.


Depends on your definition of "widespread". There's a few dozen exec-level union hacks in lots of trouble right now. Then there's the 30 or 40 or so union thugs who are in strife from the RC.


Then there's the 30 or 40 or so union thugs who are in strife from the RC


From memory it is about 18 who have been referred to see if they have done anything illegal half of which will never be charged.


One alleged Canberra Union thug, Lomax, on the recommendation of the Royal Commission, was charged ~ only later, those charges were withdrawn.
So are you going to report him to the mods?


You have a very weird view of what I would bother reporting.  To lie is not prohibited in FD's Rules.  If that were the case Mr Hicks would be in strife.  Get a grip Elde Fruit.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by The Grappler on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 9:04pm
Just put the list up with all the details and let's just see them... copy and paste...

I'd like to see what they are all alleged to have done... apart from Thommo and his squeeze from the 2007 investigation...

No relevance there - so what are all the rest listed supposed to have done?

Jesus - past history and not much else.... I'll warrant...

Lambie?  Now there's a woman with balls... I'll hold her coat for her while she rolls up her sleeves...

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Aussie on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 10:49pm
[quote author=The_Grappler link=1458679240/70#70 date=1458731096 Just put the list up with all the details and let's just see them... copy and paste..

I'd like to see what they are all alleged to have done... apart from Thommo and his squeeze from the 2007 investigation...

No relevance there - so what are all the rest listed supposed to have done?

Jesus - past history and not much else.... I'll warrant...

Lambie?  Now there's a woman with balls... I'll hold her coat for her while she rolls up her sleeves...[/quote]








Do you really reckon I would not do that if I could?  The list does not allow a copy.  Ferfuxsake...read the bloody:

Link.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by The Grappler on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 11:56pm
Jesus God, Man - must I do it all?

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by The Grappler on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 11:59pm
Urrrgh.. doesn't allow Microsoft word....  FSS,,,

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by The Grappler on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 11:59pm



APPENDIX 2

REFERRALS

Pursuant to s 6P of the Royal Commissions Act 1902 (Cth) and every other
enabling power referrals have been made in respect of the following persons or
entities:
1.

James McGiveron to the General Manager of the Fair Work
Commission in order that consideration may be given to whether to
institute proceedings against him for breaches of his duties as an
officer contrary to ss 285, 286 and/or 287 of the Fair Work (Registered
Organisations) Act 2009 (Cth) (FW(RO) Act) (Volume 2, Chapter 2).

2.

Richard Burton to the General Manager of the Fair Work Commission
in order that consideration may be given to whether to institute
proceedings against him for breaches of his duties as an officer
contrary to ss 285, 286 and/or 287 of the FW(RO) Act (Volume 2,
Chapter 2).

3.

Dean Mighell to the General Manager of the Fair Work Commission in
order that consideration may be given to whether to institute
proceedings against him for breaches of his duties as an officer
contrary to ss 286 and/or 287 of the FW(RO) Act (Volume 2,
Chapter 3.1).

4.

Gary Carruthers to the General Manager of the Fair Work Commission
in order that consideration may be given to whether to institute
proceedings against him for breaches of his duties as an officer
contrary to ss 286 and/or 287 of the FW(RO) Act (Volume 2,
Chapter 3.1).

5.

Danielle O’Brien to the New South Wales Commissioner of Police and
the Director of Public Prosecutions of New South Wales in order that
consideration may be given to whether she should be charged with and
prosecuted for larceny and/or fraud contrary to ss 117, 156 and/or
192E of the Crimes Act 1900 (NSW) (Volume 2, Chapter 4).

6.

Nicklouse (Nick) Belan, in relation to the misuse of credit cards, to the:
(a)

New South Wales Commissioner of Police and the Director
of Public Prosecutions of New South Wales in order that
consideration may be given to the institution of proceedings
against him in relation to possible offences of larceny and/or
fraud contrary to ss 117, 156 and/or 192E of the Crimes Act
1900 (NSW) (Volume 2, Chapter 4);

(b)

Executive Director of New South Wales Industrial Relations
so that consideration may be given to the institution of
proceedings against him in relation to possible offences for
breaches of his duties as an officer in relation to the use of
credit cards contrary to ss 267 and/or 268 of the Industrial
Relations Act 1996 (NSW) (Volume 2, Chapter 4); and

(c)

General Manager of the Fair Work Commission in order that
consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against him for breaches of his duties as an officer contrary to ss 285, 286 and/or 287 of the FW(RO) Act
(Volume 2, Chapter 4).
7.

Wayne Meaney to the:
(a)

General Manager of the Fair Work Commission in order that
consideration may be given to whether to institute
proceedings against him for breaches of his duties as an
officer in relation to the negotiation of Derrack Belan’s
severance terms contrary to ss 285, 286 and 287 of the
FW(RO) Act (Volume 2, Chapter 4);

(b)

New South Wales Commissioner of Police, the Director of
Public Prosecutions of New South Wales and the Executive
Director of New South Wales Industrial Relations so that
consideration may be given to whether to institute
proceedings against him in respect of possible offences for
breaches of his duties as an officer in relation to negotiation
of severance terms with Darack Belan contrary to s 268 of the
Industrial Relations Act 1996 (NSW) (Volume 2, Chapter 4);

(c)

New South Wales Commissioner of Police for further
investigation of possible offences of larceny and/or fraud in
relation to the use of credit cards contrary to ss 117, 156 and
or 192E Crimes Act 1900 (NSW) (Volume 2, Chapter 4);

(d)

Executive Director of New South Wales Industrial Relations
for further investigation of possible offences in relation to
breaches of his duties as an officer in relation to the use of credit cards contrary to ss 267 and 268 of the Industrial
Relations Act 1996 (NSW) (Volume 2, Chapter 4);
(e)

General Manager of the Fair Work Commission in order that
consideration may be given to whether to institute
proceedings against him for breaches of his duties as an
officer in relation to the use of credit cards contrary to
ss 285, 286 and/or 287 of the FW(RO) Act (Volume 2,
Chapter 4); and

(f)

General Manager of the Fair Work Commission in order that
consideration may be given to whether to institute
proceedings against him for pecuniary penalty orders in
relation to possible breaches of his duties as an officer in
relation to the general governance of the union contrary to s
285 of the FW(RO) Act (Volume 2, Chapter 4).

8.

Darack (Derrick) Belan to the:
(a)

New South Wales Commissioner of Police, for further
investigation of possible offences of larceny and/or fraud in
relation to the use of credit cards contrary to ss 117, 156
and/or 192E of the Crimes Act 1900 (NSW) (Volume 2,
Chapter 4);

(b)

Executive Director of New South Wales Industrial Relations
for further investigation of possible offences in relation to
breaches of his duties as an officer in relation to the use of
credit cards contrary to ss 267 and 268 of the Industrial
Relations Act 1996 (NSW) (Volume 2, Chapter 4);

(c)

General Manager of the Fair Work Commission in order that
consideration may be given to whether to institute
proceedings against him for breaches of his duties as an
officer in relation to the use of credit cards contrary to ss

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by The Grappler on Mar 24th, 2016 at 12:03am
I'd like to see someone else do a full rundown on these 'references' and any charges that may follow.. MAY follow:-

I just spent an agonising hour doing this list....

Lots of referrals and maybes...  how many CHARGES will come out of this and how many will stick?

Very few.. and long after the next election.... when none of the accused will be given anything but  one or two lines on page fifty in the Tele....

THAT'LL BE A $1500 A DAY CONSULTANT FEE.. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!  I can do better than any farken 'commission of audit'..... and hell of a lot cheaper!!!!!  MY results arrive in less than a farken day..... but there are call-out costs etc....

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by The Grappler on Mar 24th, 2016 at 12:14am
8.

Darack (Derrick) Belan to the:
(a)

New South Wales Commissioner of Police, for further investigation of possible offences of larceny and/or fraud in relation to the use of credit cards contrary to ss 117, 156
and/or 192E of the Crimes Act 1900 (NSW) (Volume 2, Chapter 4);

(b)

Executive Director of New South Wales Industrial Relations for further investigation of possible offences in relation to breaches of his duties as an officer in relation to the use of credit cards contrary to ss 267 and 268 of the Industrial Relations Act 1996 (NSW) (Volume 2, Chapter 4);

(c)

General Manager of the Fair Work Commission in order that consideration may be given to whether to instituteproceedings against him for breaches of his duties as an officer in relation to the use of credit cards contrary to ss 285, 286 and/or 287 of the FW(RO) Act (Volume 2, Chapter 4);

(d)

General Manager of the Fair Work Commission in order that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against him for breaches of his duties as an officer in relation to the arrangement with Paul Gibson contrary to ss 285, 286 and/or 287 of the FW(RO) Act (Volume 2, Chapter 4);

(e)

Executive Director of New South Wales Industrial Relations so that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings in respect of possible offences in relation to breaches of his duties as an officer in relation to the arrangement with Paul Gibson contrary to s 268 of the Industrial Relations Act 1996 (NSW) (Volume 2, Chapter 4).

(f)

General Manager of the Fair Work Commission in order that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against him for breaches of his duties as an officer in relation to the negotiation of his severance terms contrary to ss 285, 286 and 287 of the FW(RO) Act (Volume 2, Chapter 4);

(g)

New South Wales Commissioner of Police, the Director of Public Prosecutions of New South Wales and the Executive Director of New South Wales Industrial Relation so that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against him in respect of possible offences for breaches of his duties as an officer in relation to negotiation of his severance terms contrary to s 268 of the Industrial Relations Act 1996 (NSW) (Volume 2, Chapter 4); and

(h)

General Manager of the Fair Work Commission in order that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against him for pecuniary penalty orders in relation to possible breaches of his duties as an officer in relation to the general governance of the union contrary to s 285 of the FW(RO) Act (Volume 2, Chapter 4).

9.

Marilyn Issanchon to the General Manager of the Fair Work Commission in order that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against her for pecuniary penalty orders in relation to possible breaches of her duties as an officer contrary to s 285 of the FW(RO) Act (Volume 2, Chapter 4).

10.

Katherine Jackson to the:

(a)

Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether she should be charged with and prosecuted
for obtaining property and financial advantage by deception contrary to ss 81 and 82 of the Crimes Act 1958 (Cth) (Volume 2, Chapter 5.1).

(b)

Victorian Commissioner of Police for further investigation as to whether she may have given false or misleading evidence in contravention of 6H of the Royal Commission Act 1902(Cth) (Volume 2, Chapter 5.2).

(c)

General Manager of the Fair Work Commission so that consideration can be given to the General Manager commencing proceedings against Katherine Jackson for pecuniary penalty orders for her contraventions of s 287 (Volume 2, Chapter 5.2).

11.

Peter Mylan to the:
(a)

Executive Director of NSW Industrial Relations so that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against him in relation to possible offences for breaches of his duties as an officer contrary to s 267 of the Industrial Relations Act 1996 (NSW) (Volume 2, Chapter 5.2, Appendix G); and

(b)

Director of Public Prosecutions of New South Wales and the New South Wales Commissioner of police in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted for intentionally deceiving members by false or misleading statement contrary to s 192H of the Crimes Act 1900 (NSW) (Volume 2, Chapter 5.2, Appendix G).

(c)

General Manager of the Fair Work Commission so that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against him for a breach of his duties as an officer contrary to ss 285, 286 and 287 of the FW(RO) Act (Volume 2, Chapter 5.2, Appendix G).

12.

Dean Hall to the Director-General, Chief Minister, Treasury and Economic Development Directorate in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted for intimidating an inspector contrary to s 190 of the Work, Health and Safety Act 2011 (ACT) (Volume 3, Chapter 6.3).



Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by The Grappler on Mar 24th, 2016 at 12:14am
13.

Johnny Lomax to:
(a)

the Director of the Fair Work Building Industry Inspectorate in order that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against him in respect of Anthony Costanzo (or CPS) for coercion and inducing membership action contrary to ss 348 and 350 of the Fair Work Act 2009 (Cth) (FW Act) (Volume 3, Chapter 6.4); and

(b)

the Director of the Fair Work Building Industry Inspectorate in order that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against him in respect of unlawfully taking adverse action against a person for not becoming a union member and coercion contrary to ss 346 and 348 of the FW Act (Volume 3, Chapter 6.4).

14.

Jason O’Mara to the Director of the Fair Work Building Industry Inspectorate in order that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against him for coercion and inducing membership action contrary to ss 348 and 350 of the FW Act (Volume 3, Chapter 6.4).

15.

Anthony Vitler to the Director of the Fair Work Building Industry Inspectorate in order that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against him for inducing membership action contrary to s 350 of the FW Act (Volume 3, Chapter 6.4).

16.

Construction Charitable Works Limited (CCW) to the Australian Charities and Not-for-Profits Commission in order that consideration may be given to whether CCW’s registration as a charity should be revoked (Volume 3, Chapter 6.6).

17.

In relation to matters arising in the case study concerning Creative Safety Initiatives and Construction Charitable Works in respect of declarations made by the Canberra Tradesmen’s Union Club and the Woden Tradesmen’s Union Club, to the Australian Federal Police and the ACT Gaming and Racing Commission to investigate the commission of possible criminal offences against the Criminal Code (ACT) and s 65 of the Taxation Administration Act 1999 (ACT) in relation to matters concerning the Gaming Machine Act 2004 (ACT)(Volume 3, Chapter 6.6).

18.

In relation to matters arising in the case study concerning Creative Safety Initiatives and Construction Charitable Works, to the Government of the Australian Capital Territory for consideration of whether express amendments should be made to the Gaming Machine Act 2004 (ACT) so that ‘community contributions’ cannot be made by a registered club to an entity related to that club (Volume 3, Chapter
6.6).

19.

Brian Parker to the:
(a)

Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted for intentionally giving false or misleading evidence contrary to s 6H of the Royal Commissions Act 1902 (Cth) (Volume 3, Chapter 7.1); and

(b)

Australian Securities and Investments Commission in order that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against him for breaches of his duties as an officer contrary to ss 182 and 183 of the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth) (Volume 3, Chapter 7.1).

20.

Lisa Zanatta to the Australian Securities and Investments Commission in order that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against her for breaches of her duties as an officer contrary to ss 182 and 183 of the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth) (Volume 3, Chapter 7.1).

21.

Maria Butera to the Australian Securities and Investments Commission in order that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against her for breaches of her duties as an officer contrary to ss 182 and 183 of the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth) (Volume 3, Chapter 7.1).

22.

David Atkin to the Australian Securities and Investments Commission in order that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against him for breaches of his duties as an officer contrary to ss 182 and 183 of the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth) (Volume 3, Chapter 7.1).

23.

George Alex to the New South Wales Commissioner of Police and the Director of Public Prosecutions of New South Wales in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to corrupt commission offences contrary to s 249B of the Crimes Act 1900 (NSW) (Volume 3, Chapter 7.2).

24.

Darren Greenfield to the New South Wales Commissioner of Police and the Director of Public Prosecutions of New South Wales in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to corrupt commission offences contrary to s 249B of the Crimes Act 1900 (NSW) (Volume 3, Chapter 7.2).

25.

Construction Forestry Mining and Energy Union – New South Wales (CFMEU NSW) to the:

(a)

New South Wales Minister for Innovation and Better Regulation in order that consideration may be given to whether an inquiry should be conducted pursuant to Division 1 of Part 3 of the Charitable Fundraising Act 1991 (NSW) into all of the CFMEU NSW’s practices concerning charitable fundraising (Volume 3, Chapter 7.3); and

(b)

Australian Securities and Investments Commission so that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against it for carrying on a financial services business without a licence contrary to s 911A of the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth) (Volume 3, Chapter 7.6).


Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by The Grappler on Mar 24th, 2016 at 12:15am
26.

Steve Dixon to the New South Wales Commissioner of Police and the Director of Public Prosecutions of New South Wales in order that prosecuted in relation to a corrupt commission offence contrary to s 249B(1)(b) of the Crimes Act 1900 (NSW) (Volume 3, Chapter 7.4).

27.

Michael Deegan to the New South Wales Commissioner of Police and the Director of Public Prosecutions of New South Wales in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to a corrupt commission offence contrary to s 249B(2)(b) of the Crimes Act 1900 (NSW) (Volume 3, Chapter 7.4).

28.

Andrew Ferguson to the:
(a)

New South Wales Commissioner of Police and the Director of Public Prosecutions of New South Wales in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted for aiding, abetting, counselling or procuring Steve Dixon’s possible offence contrary to s 249F of the Crimes Act 1900 (NSW) (Volume 3, Chapter 7.4); and

(b)

General Manager of the Fair Work Commission so that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against him in relation to his breaches of his duties as an officer contrary to s 286 of Sch 1B of the Workplace Relations Act 1996 (Cth) (Volume 3, Chapter 7.5).

29.

Tony Papa to the New South Wales Commissioner of Police and the Director of Public Prosecutions of New South Wales in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted for aiding, abetting, counselling or procuring Steve Dixon’s possible offence contrary to s 249F of the Crimes Act 1900 (NSW)
(Volume 3, Chapter 7.4).
30.

Trevor Sharp to the New South Wales Commissioner of Police and the Director of Public Prosecutions of New South Wales in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted for aiding, abetting, counselling or procuring Steve Dixon’s possible offence contrary to s 249F of the Crimes Act 1900 (NSW)(Volume 3, Chapter 7.4).

31.

Peter McClelland to the General Manager of the Fair Work Commission so that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against him in relation to his breaches of his duties as an officer contrary to s 286 of Sch 1B of the Workplace Relations Act 1996 (Cth) (Volume 3, Chapter 7.5).

32.

David Hanna to the Director of Public Prosecutions of Queensland and the Queensland Commissioner of Police in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to a corrupt commission offence contrary to s 442B of the Criminal Code 1899 (Qld) (Volume 4, Chapter 8.1).

33.

Mathew McAllum to the Director of Public Prosecutions of Queensland and the Queensland Commissioner of Police in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to a corrupt commission offence contrary to s 442BA of the Criminal Code 1899 (Qld) (Volume 4, Chapter 8.1).

34.

Adam Moore to the Director of Public Prosecutions of Queensland and the Queensland Commissioner of Police in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to a corrupt commission offence contrary to s 442BA of the Criminal Code 1899 (Qld) (Volume 4, Chapter 8.1).


Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by The Grappler on Mar 24th, 2016 at 12:16am
35.

Cesar Melham to the:
(a)

Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible corrupt commission offences concerning Cleanevent Pty Ltd contrary to s 176(1)(a) and/or (b) of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.2);

(b)

General Manager of the Fair Work Commission so that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against him for breaching his duties as an officer in relation to his dealings with Cleanevent Pty Ltd contrary to ss 285 and 286 of the FW(RO) Act (Volume 4, Chapter 10.2);

(c)

Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible corrupt commission offences concerning Thiess John Holland Pty Ltd contrary to s 176 of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.3);

(d)

Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible false accounting offences concerning Thiess John Holland contrary to s 83 of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.3);

(e)

Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged and prosecuted in relation to possible corrupt commission offences concerning ACI Operations Pty Ltd contrary to s 176(1)(b) of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.5);

(f)

Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible false accounting offences contrary to s 83 of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.8);

(g)

General Manager of the Fair Work Commission so that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against him for breaching his duties as an officer in respect of his dealings with Winslow Constructors Pty Ltd contrary to ss 285, 286 and 287 of the FW(RO) Act (Volume 4, Chapter 10.8);

(h)

Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may begiven to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible false accounting offences concerning BMD Constructions Pty Ltd contrary to s 83 of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.9);

(i)

General Manager of the Fair Work Commission so that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against him for breaching his duties as an officer concerning BMD Constructions Pty Ltd contrary to ss 285, 286 and 287 of the FW(RO) Act (Volume 4, Chapter 10.9); and

(j)

Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible false accounting offences concerning A J
Lucas Pty Ltd contrary to s 83 of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.9); and

(k)

Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible false accounting offences concerning Downer EDI Engineering Power Pty Ltd, contrary to s 83 of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.10).



Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by The Grappler on Mar 24th, 2016 at 12:17am
36.

AWU to the:
(a)

Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether it should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible corrupt commission offences concerning Cleanevent Pty Ltd contrary to s 176(1)(a) and/or (b) of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.2);

(b)

General Manager of the Fair Work Commission so that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against it for failing to maintain financial
statements giving a true and fair view of its financial position in relation to membership arrangements for employees of Cleanevent Pty Ltd contrary to s 253(3) of the FW(RO) Act (Volume 4, Chapter 10.2);

(c)
General Manager of the Fair Work Commission so that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against it for failing to maintain an accurate register of members in relation to membership arrangements for employees of Cleanevent Pty Ltd contrary to s 230 of the FW(RO) Act (Volume 4, Chapter 10.2);

(d)

Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether it should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible corrupt commission offences concerning Thiess John Holland Pty Ltd, contrary to s 176 of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.3);

(e)

Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether it should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible false accounting offences concerning Thiess John Holland Pty Ltd, contrary to s 83 of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.3);

(f)

Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether it should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible corrupt commission offences concerning ACI Operations Pty Ltd contrary to s 176(1)(b) of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.5);

(g)

Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether it should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible corrupt commissions offences concerning
Chiquita Mushrooms Pty Ltd contrary to s 176(1)(b) of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.6);

(h)
Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether it should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible false accounting offences concerning Winslow Constructors Pty Ltd contrary to s 83 of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.8);

(i)

General Manager of the Fair Work Commission so that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against it for failing to maintain an accurate register of members in relation to employees of Winslow Constructors Pty Ltd contrary to s 230 of the FW(RO) Act(Volume 4, Chapter 10.8);

(j)

General Manager of the Fair Work Commission so that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against it for failing to maintain an accurate register of members concerning BMD Constructions Pty Ltd contrary to s 230 of the FW(RO) Act (Volume 4, Chapter 10.9);

(k)

General Manager of the Fair Work Commission so that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against it for failing to maintain an accurate register of members concerning the Australian Jockeys’ Association contrary to s 230 of the FW(RO) Act (Volume 4, Chapter 10.9);

(l)

General Manager of the Fair Work Commission so that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against it for failing to maintain an accurate register of members concerning Geotechnical Engineering Pty Ltd contrary to s 230 of the FW(RO) Act (Volume 4, Chapter 10.9);

(m)
General Manager of the Fair Work Commission so that consideration may be given to whether to institute proceedings against it for failing to maintain an accurate register of members concerning the Australian Netball Players Association contrary to s 230 of the FW(RO) Act (Volume 4, Chapter 10.9); and

(n)

Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether it should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible false accounting offences concerning


Downer EDI Engineering Power Pty Ltd, contrary to s 83 of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.10).

37.

Julian Rzesiowiecki to the:
(a)

Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible corrupt commission offences contrary to s
176 of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.3);
and

(b)

Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible false accounting offences, contrary to s 83 of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.3).


Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by The Grappler on Mar 24th, 2016 at 12:18am
38.

John Holland Pty Ltd to the Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether it should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible corrupt commissions offences contrary to s 176 of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.3).

39.

Mike Gilhome to the Victorian Commissioner of Police and the Director of Public Prosecutions so that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible corrupt commission offences contrary to s 176(2)(b) of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.5).

40.

Chiquita Mushrooms Pty Ltd to the Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether it should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible corrupt commission offences contrary to s 176(2)(b) of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4,Chapter 10.6).

41.

Frank Leo to the Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible corrupt commission offences contrary to s 176(1)(b) of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.6);

42.

Dino Strano to the Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible false accounting offences contrary to s 83 of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.8).

43.

Peter Smoljko to the Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible false accounting offences contrary to s 83 of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.8).

44.

Winslow Constructors Pty Ltd to:
(a)

the Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether it should be charged with and prosecuted in relation to possible false accounting offences contrary to s 83 of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) (Volume 4, Chapter 10.8); and
(b)

the Commissioner of Taxation for consideration of whethertax deductions were properly available in respect of payments made pursuant to false invoices (Volume 4, Chapter 10.8).

45.

Tony Sirsen to the Victorian Commissioner of Police and Director of Public Prosecutions of Victoria in order that consideration may be given to whether he should be charged with and prosecuted for false accounting offences contrary to s 83 of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic)(Volume 4, Chapter 10.10).


THERE ENDETH THE LESSON - NOT ONLY IN HOW TO CUT/COPY AND PAST AND FORM A VIABLE LIST..... BUT ALSO IN THE KIND OF NONSENSE A ROYAL COMMISSION WILL COME UP WITH.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by The Grappler on Mar 24th, 2016 at 12:19am
Back to front, I know... but I'm tired.....

Do some work for yourselves for a change.... stop feeding off me....

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by The Grappler on Mar 24th, 2016 at 11:37am
HEEEY!  I put a lot of work and midnight candles into putting that list of allegations from the Royal Commission up for you - I hope someone is bothered to copy it and check out each one as it fails (or succeeds) as the case may be.

Lomax is out already..... Jackson was already under scrutiny.... ..

I even had to call in a couple of markers from the Commonwealth DPP for this  - a cousin's hubby is a highly placed person there.... why do some get all the luck and others all the sh1t?

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Bam on Mar 24th, 2016 at 3:43pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows

Fallacious.


Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.

They already have ... a Trade Union Royal Commission that found a few items of concern but nothing to support the proposition that they were "shockingly corrupt".

If you want "shockingly corrupt", take a look at the NSW branch of the Liberal party. There's more corruption there than in the whole of the Australian trade union movement. Campaign donations, links to the Mafia, a dozen Liberals resigning after investigation by ICAC, corruption in the preselection process, books in need of a forensic audit, the list goes on.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by John Smith on Mar 24th, 2016 at 3:51pm
don't bother ... Andrei's as rusted on as the rest of the rightards on here

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by lee on Mar 24th, 2016 at 3:56pm

Bam wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 3:43pm:
links to the Mafia,



Remember Labor links to Mafia too. ;D ;D ;D

Don't be shy. You can confess it here. You are among friends.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Bam on Mar 24th, 2016 at 5:02pm

lee wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 3:56pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 3:43pm:
links to the Mafia,


Remember Labor links to Mafia too. ;D ;D ;D

Link, please.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 24th, 2016 at 5:15pm

Bam wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 3:43pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows

Fallacious.


Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.

They already have ... a Trade Union Royal Commission that found a few items of concern but nothing to support the proposition that they were "shockingly corrupt".

If you want "shockingly corrupt", take a look at the NSW branch of the Liberal party. There's more corruption there than in the whole of the Australian trade union movement. Campaign donations, links to the Mafia, a dozen Liberals resigning after investigation by ICAC, corruption in the preselection process, books in need of a forensic audit, the list goes on.


except that that was EXACTLY how the report referred to the union movement. you can choose to disagree, you do NOT get to restate the findings so as to give a different outcome.

liar

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by lee on Mar 24th, 2016 at 5:34pm

Bam wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 5:02pm:

lee wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 3:56pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 3:43pm:
links to the Mafia,


Remember Labor links to Mafia too. ;D ;D ;D

Link, please.


'A joint investigation conducted by the ABC and Fairfax Media uncovered the alleged infiltration, which could have tainted parts of both the Liberal and Labor parties.'

'The Calabrian Mafia, also known as the ‘Ndrangheta, is one of the world’s most powerful criminal groups and is thought to be one of the major players in the world of international drug trafficking.'

In Australia it operates using threats and violence in both legitimate businesses, such as fruit and vegetables, and illegitimate businesses, such as drugs,  the ABC reported.

The violent and powerful group extended its networks from Italy and across the world, and gained access to the very highest office bearers in Australia, the report revealed.
Ms Vanstone is at the centre of two cases uncovered during the investigation.

Ms Vanstone is at the centre of two cases uncovered during the investigation. Photo: AAP

The investigation showed donors had lobbied on behalf of a mafia figure to a host of Liberal and Labor MPs over issues related to their businesses.'

http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2015/06/29/italian-mobsters-infiltrate-australian-politics/

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 24th, 2016 at 5:39pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 12:03am:
I'd like to see someone else do a full rundown on these 'references' and any charges that may follow.. MAY follow:-

I just spent an agonising hour doing this list....

Lots of referrals and maybes...  how many CHARGES will come out of this and how many will stick?

Very few.. and long after the next election.... when none of the accused will be given anything but  one or two lines on page fifty in the Tele....

THAT'LL BE A $1500 A DAY CONSULTANT FEE.. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!  I can do better than any farken 'commission of audit'..... and hell of a lot cheaper!!!!!  MY results arrive in less than a farken day..... but there are call-out costs etc....


Well done Grap

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Dnarever on Mar 24th, 2016 at 8:15pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 11:37am:
HEEEY!  I put a lot of work and midnight candles into putting that list of allegations from the Royal Commission up for you - I hope someone is bothered to copy it and check out each one as it fails (or succeeds) as the case may be.

Lomax is out already..... Jackson was already under scrutiny.... ..

I even had to call in a couple of markers from the Commonwealth DPP for this  - a cousin's hubby is a highly placed person there.... why do some get all the luck and others all the sh1t?


Well done but I think many of us have previously read through the list.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Dnarever on Mar 24th, 2016 at 8:18pm
Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed

It should not even be legal to blackmail senators as is clearly the case here.

The Lib supporters clearly do not care how distant the current government maintain themselves away from any form of integrity.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by John Smith on Mar 24th, 2016 at 8:37pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 8:18pm:
Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed

It should not even be legal to blackmail senators as is clearly the case here.

The Lib supporters clearly do not care how distant the current government maintain themselves away from any form of integrity.



Whilst I agree with Jackie on this point, she's hardly in a position to talk ... didn't she once say she would vote against all govt. legislation unless she got her way with a bill she wanted passed on soldiers pensions or some such thing.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Kiron22 on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:07pm
Why don't the Lib supporters here want a Federal ICAC?

If you want a ABCC so much, then extend it too ALL workers and see how long your precious Government lasts in power.

The ABCC were extrajudicial thugs designed too destroy unions and keep workers in a constant state of fear. Bring any reasonable arguments for it over a federal ICAC.

Until you can do that, the ABCC will continue too be a little LNP gestapo stasi jackboot force.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:48pm

Kiron22 wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:07pm:
Why don't the Lib supporters here want a Federal ICAC?   That's obvious after 17 high profile Libtards were sliced and diced

If you want a ABCC so much, then extend it too ALL workers and see how long your precious Government lasts in power. Exactly

The ABCC were extrajudicial thugs designed too destroy unions and keep workers in a constant state of fear. Bring any reasonable arguments for it over a federal ICAC.

Until you can do that, the ABCC will continue too be a little LNP gestapo stasi jackboot force.
The Libs are will and have always been facists

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by John Smith on Mar 24th, 2016 at 10:12pm

Its time wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:48pm:
The Libs are will and have always been facists



and the fascists have always been conservative  ;)

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by The Grappler on Mar 24th, 2016 at 10:55pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 8:15pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 11:37am:
HEEEY!  I put a lot of work and midnight candles into putting that list of allegations from the Royal Commission up for you - I hope someone is bothered to copy it and check out each one as it fails (or succeeds) as the case may be.

Lomax is out already..... Jackson was already under scrutiny.... ..

I even had to call in a couple of markers from the Commonwealth DPP for this  - a cousin's hubby is a highly placed person there.... why do some get all the luck and others all the sh1t?


Well done but I think many of us have previously read through the list.


Yee-ussshhh - but now it is right up there for copying and for monitoring on future performance...

The politician's greatest enemy is the internet.... they can be held up to judgement years after the events..... and rightly so....

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:28am

Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 8:18pm:
Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed

It should not even be legal to blackmail senators as is clearly the case here.

The Lib supporters clearly do not care how distant the current government maintain themselves away from any form of integrity.


So then what do you think of her blackmailing the government over a Defence pay rise?

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:35am

Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 8:15pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 11:37am:
HEEEY!  I put a lot of work and midnight candles into putting that list of allegations from the Royal Commission up for you - I hope someone is bothered to copy it and check out each one as it fails (or succeeds) as the case may be.

Lomax is out already..... Jackson was already under scrutiny.... ..

I even had to call in a couple of markers from the Commonwealth DPP for this  - a cousin's hubby is a highly placed person there.... why do some get all the luck and others all the sh1t?


Well done but I think many of us have previously read through the list.



you wouldnt know it tho.  after all, most of you crazy laborites are continually saying that the RC didnt uncover corruption at all.

you sound stupid as well as massive liars when you say that.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:36am

Kiron22 wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:07pm:
Why don't the Lib supporters here want a Federal ICAC?

If you want a ABCC so much, then extend it too ALL workers and see how long your precious Government lasts in power.

The ABCC were extrajudicial thugs designed too destroy unions and keep workers in a constant state of fear. Bring any reasonable arguments for it over a federal ICAC.

Until you can do that, the ABCC will continue too be a little LNP gestapo stasi jackboot force.



why doesnt the ALP bring it in?  they had 6 years to do so and dint even try.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:37am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:28am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 8:18pm:
Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed

It should not even be legal to blackmail senators as is clearly the case here.

The Lib supporters clearly do not care how distant the current government maintain themselves away from any form of integrity.


So then what do you think of her blackmailing the government over a Defence pay rise?



its JS and you used the word 'think'.  there is the problem.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Labor voter on Mar 25th, 2016 at 8:47am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:28am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 8:18pm:
Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed

It should not even be legal to blackmail senators as is clearly the case here.

The Lib supporters clearly do not care how distant the current government maintain themselves away from any form of integrity.


So then what do you think of her blackmailing the government over a Defence pay rise?



Difference is she was blackmail the government for the defence force personal not for big business like the government is doing to the senators

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by John Smith on Mar 25th, 2016 at 9:20am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:37am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:28am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 8:18pm:
Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed

It should not even be legal to blackmail senators as is clearly the case here.

The Lib supporters clearly do not care how distant the current government maintain themselves away from any form of integrity.


So then what do you think of her blackmailing the government over a Defence pay rise?



its JS and you used the word 'think'.  there is the problem.



not real bright are you?  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 25th, 2016 at 9:28am

John Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 9:20am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:37am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:28am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 8:18pm:
Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed

It should not even be legal to blackmail senators as is clearly the case here.

The Lib supporters clearly do not care how distant the current government maintain themselves away from any form of integrity.


So then what do you think of her blackmailing the government over a Defence pay rise?



its JS and you used the word 'think'.  there is the problem.



not real bright are you?  ;D ;D ;D


I noticed that earlier and knew you would pick up on it  ;)

Armpit did you need us to explain it to you ?

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Ajax on Mar 25th, 2016 at 9:32am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.


And the political system is any different....????

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:43pm

Labor voter wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 8:47am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:28am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 8:18pm:
Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed

It should not even be legal to blackmail senators as is clearly the case here.

The Lib supporters clearly do not care how distant the current government maintain themselves away from any form of integrity.


So then what do you think of her blackmailing the government over a Defence pay rise?



Difference is she was blackmail the government for the defence force personal not for big business like the government is doing to the senators



so there is GOOD blackmail and BAD blackmail?


i look forward to your studies on ethics where you try and argue that one.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:44pm

Ajax wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 9:32am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.


And the political system is any different....????



my local MP doesnt force his way into my office.  My state senator doesnt beat up my employers or drage them away from work for 'meetings'.

BIG DIFFERNCE

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by John Smith on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:49pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:44pm:

Ajax wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 9:32am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.


And the political system is any different....????



my local MP doesnt force his way into my office.  My state senator doesnt beat up my employers or drage them away from work for 'meetings'.

BIG DIFFERNCE


really? union rep beat up an employer? when did that happen?  :D :D :D

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Ajax on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:59pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:44pm:
my local MP doesnt force his way into my office.


But they do force their way into your pocket and beliefs. 


Quote:
My state senator doesnt beat up my employers or drage them away from work for 'meetings'.


No they usually pay them tax payer funded money to use as their own to fund projects, and help them get their way with you and all your conditions.


Quote:
BIG DIFFERNCE


Yes one comes barging in the front door screaming and kicking.

The other comes in through the back door and you never see those ones coming.



Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by The Grappler on Mar 25th, 2016 at 1:01pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

Labor voter wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 8:47am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:28am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 8:18pm:
Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed

It should not even be legal to blackmail senators as is clearly the case here.

The Lib supporters clearly do not care how distant the current government maintain themselves away from any form of integrity.


So then what do you think of her blackmailing the government over a Defence pay rise?



Difference is she was blackmail the government for the defence force personal not for big business like the government is doing to the senators



so there is GOOD blackmail and BAD blackmail?


i look forward to your studies on ethics where you try and argue that one.


So an Independent holding out and refusing a vote without a quid pro quo is now 'blackmail'?

I look forward to the future of Australian politics...... when a member or senator can be thrown out of the House for refusing to abide by the demand of the ruling party that his/her vote go their way....  I mean - surely that government has a Mandate, and thus  everyone else MUST be in lockstep with it...

Isn't that precisely what is behind the current 'legislation' to effectively remove Independents from the House and the Senate?

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 25th, 2016 at 1:03pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:49pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:44pm:

Ajax wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 9:32am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.


And the political system is any different....????



my local MP doesnt force his way into my office.  My state senator doesnt beat up my employers or drage them away from work for 'meetings'.

BIG DIFFERNCE


really? union rep beat up an employer? when did that happen? 


I think he's getting confused with that Liberal Prime Minister who punched one young woman, and sexually assaulted another.

Yes, that must be it.

Longy wouldn't lie.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by The Grappler on Mar 25th, 2016 at 1:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 1:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:49pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:44pm:

Ajax wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 9:32am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.


And the political system is any different....????



my local MP doesnt force his way into my office.  My state senator doesnt beat up my employers or drage them away from work for 'meetings'.

BIG DIFFERNCE


really? union rep beat up an employer? when did that happen? 


I think he's getting confused with that Liberal Prime Minister who punched one young woman, and sexually assaulted another.

Yes, that must be it.

Longy wouldn't lie.



.. at least Jacqui wouldn't be black-balled - the shoe polish punishment - code red - for a scruffy trooper...

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by lee on Mar 25th, 2016 at 2:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 1:03pm:
I think he's getting confused with that Liberal Prime Minister who punched one young woman,



Link Please.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 25th, 2016 at 4:29pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:49pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:44pm:

Ajax wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 9:32am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.


And the political system is any different....????



my local MP doesnt force his way into my office.  My state senator doesnt beat up my employers or drage them away from work for 'meetings'.

BIG DIFFERNCE


really? union rep beat up an employer? when did that happen?  :D :D :D



i could prove it to a normal person, but since you are the kind of more on who thinks the RC uncovered NOTHING, then I doubt I could prove to you that the sky was blue if you beleived otherwise.

you are the kind of person who thinks the world is flat.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 25th, 2016 at 4:31pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 1:01pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

Labor voter wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 8:47am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:28am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 8:18pm:
Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed

It should not even be legal to blackmail senators as is clearly the case here.

The Lib supporters clearly do not care how distant the current government maintain themselves away from any form of integrity.


So then what do you think of her blackmailing the government over a Defence pay rise?



Difference is she was blackmail the government for the defence force personal not for big business like the government is doing to the senators



so there is GOOD blackmail and BAD blackmail?


i look forward to your studies on ethics where you try and argue that one.


So an Independent holding out and refusing a vote without a quid pro quo is now 'blackmail'?

I look forward to the future of Australian politics...... when a member or senator can be thrown out of the House for refusing to abide by the demand of the ruling party that his/her vote go their way....  I mean - surely that government has a Mandate, and thus  everyone else MUST be in lockstep with it...

Isn't that precisely what is behind the current 'legislation' to effectively remove Independents from the House and the Senate?



yes!  she is not saying she will vote against a specific policy but against ALL bills.  it is blackmail, pure and simple. I will enjoy her getting thrown out in the DD

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 25th, 2016 at 4:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 1:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:49pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:44pm:

Ajax wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 9:32am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.


And the political system is any different....????



my local MP doesnt force his way into my office.  My state senator doesnt beat up my employers or drage them away from work for 'meetings'.

BIG DIFFERNCE


really? union rep beat up an employer? when did that happen? 


I think he's getting confused with that Liberal Prime Minister who punched one young woman, and sexually assaulted another.

Yes, that must be it.

Longy wouldn't lie.



im talking about the rapist leader from the other side of the house.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Redneck on Mar 25th, 2016 at 4:34pm
Will she cave in that is the question?

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by cods on Mar 25th, 2016 at 4:37pm
think its hysterical... LAMBIE WONT BE BLACKMAILED>>

yet thats basically all shes done since she got in on someone elses coat tails...

what a hypocrite.....

you play my game or you wont get my vote..... so thee!

bah humbug

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by John Smith on Mar 25th, 2016 at 4:41pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 4:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:49pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:44pm:

Ajax wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 9:32am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.


And the political system is any different....????



my local MP doesnt force his way into my office.  My state senator doesnt beat up my employers or drage them away from work for 'meetings'.

BIG DIFFERNCE


really? union rep beat up an employer? when did that happen?  :D :D :D



i could prove it to a normal person, but since you are the kind of more on who thinks the RC uncovered NOTHING, then I doubt I could prove to you that the sky was blue if you beleived otherwise.

you are the kind of person who thinks the world is flat.


you couldn't prove it if your life depended on it. Your pathetic excuses are wearing thin. Everyone knows you're a lying worm.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by John Smith on Mar 25th, 2016 at 4:42pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 4:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 1:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:49pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:44pm:

Ajax wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 9:32am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 7:11am:
Everyone knows unions are shockingly corrupt and have a tonne of bullying thugs in their ranks to keep people quiet.
They need to be looked at.


And the political system is any different....????



my local MP doesnt force his way into my office.  My state senator doesnt beat up my employers or drage them away from work for 'meetings'.

BIG DIFFERNCE


really? union rep beat up an employer? when did that happen? 


I think he's getting confused with that Liberal Prime Minister who punched one young woman, and sexually assaulted another.

Yes, that must be it.

Longy wouldn't lie.



im talking about the rapist leader from the other side of the house.


longstupidone just making crap up again  :D :D

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Dnarever on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:58pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:28am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 8:18pm:
Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed

It should not even be legal to blackmail senators as is clearly the case here.

The Lib supporters clearly do not care how distant the current government maintain themselves away from any form of integrity.


So then what do you think of her blackmailing the government over a Defence pay rise?


I don't think that one person taking a stand over a policy she believes in is in the same class as a whole party holding the threat of job loss over the head of senators in order to bully the senate into making a vote they know they would otherwise not be willing to make.

This is clearly bullying, intimidation, blackmail and shows a government seriously lacking in integrity.

Not only that it is a call from a PM who's first commitment in office was a guarantee to go full term.


And they said that Abbott was dishonest ?

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Labor voter on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:42pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

Labor voter wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 8:47am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:28am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 8:18pm:
Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed

It should not even be legal to blackmail senators as is clearly the case here.

The Lib supporters clearly do not care how distant the current government maintain themselves away from any form of integrity.


So then what do you think of her blackmailing the government over a Defence pay rise?



Difference is she was blackmail the government for the defence force personal not for big business like the government is doing to the senators



so there is GOOD blackmail and BAD blackmail?


i look forward to your studies on ethics where you try and argue that one.



What would you call good blackmail and bad blackmail longy

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Dnarever on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:51pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

Labor voter wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 8:47am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:28am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 8:18pm:
Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed

It should not even be legal to blackmail senators as is clearly the case here.

The Lib supporters clearly do not care how distant the current government maintain themselves away from any form of integrity.


So then what do you think of her blackmailing the government over a Defence pay rise?



Difference is she was blackmail the government for the defence force personal not for big business like the government is doing to the senators



so there is GOOD blackmail and BAD blackmail?


i look forward to your studies on ethics where you try and argue that one.



Do you notice a not so subtle difference between Lambie committing to vote against legislation being called blackmail and the Liberals threats to keep children indefinitely in detention if the senate does not vote for their poor policy or threatening the employment of senators if they do not support disgraceful legislation that the they know the senate does not support.

To me it seems to be a very different dimension including a strong element of bullying and intimidation that Lambie's actions did not.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by The Grappler on Mar 25th, 2016 at 11:23pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 4:31pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 1:01pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

Labor voter wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 8:47am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:28am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 8:18pm:
Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed

It should not even be legal to blackmail senators as is clearly the case here.

The Lib supporters clearly do not care how distant the current government maintain themselves away from any form of integrity.


So then what do you think of her blackmailing the government over a Defence pay rise?



Difference is she was blackmail the government for the defence force personal not for big business like the government is doing to the senators



so there is GOOD blackmail and BAD blackmail?


i look forward to your studies on ethics where you try and argue that one.


So an Independent holding out and refusing a vote without a quid pro quo is now 'blackmail'?

I look forward to the future of Australian politics...... when a member or senator can be thrown out of the House for refusing to abide by the demand of the ruling party that his/her vote go their way....  I mean - surely that government has a Mandate, and thus  everyone else MUST be in lockstep with it...

Isn't that precisely what is behind the current 'legislation' to effectively remove Independents from the House and the Senate?



yes!  she is not saying she will vote against a specific policy but against ALL bills.  it is blackmail, pure and simple. I will enjoy her getting thrown out in the DD


Same applies - where is there any obligation on the part of any Senator to vote for any bill at all...... apart from those who are nothing but party lackeys...... and who in his/her right mind would vote for them?

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by cods on Mar 26th, 2016 at 7:33am

lee wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 2:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 1:03pm:
I think he's getting confused with that Liberal Prime Minister who punched one young woman,



Link Please.



which young women did HE PUNCH?..

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by The Grappler on Mar 26th, 2016 at 8:37am

cods wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 7:33am:

lee wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 2:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 1:03pm:
I think he's getting confused with that Liberal Prime Minister who punched one young woman,



Link Please.



which young women did HE PUNCH?..


I believe she was called Uni Wall or Room Wall....

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:41am

Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:58pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:28am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 8:18pm:
Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed

It should not even be legal to blackmail senators as is clearly the case here.

The Lib supporters clearly do not care how distant the current government maintain themselves away from any form of integrity.


So then what do you think of her blackmailing the government over a Defence pay rise?


I don't think that one person taking a stand over a policy she believes in is in the same class as a whole party holding the threat of job loss over the head of senators in order to bully the senate into making a vote they know they would otherwise not be willing to make.

This is clearly bullying, intimidation, blackmail and shows a government seriously lacking in integrity.

Not only that it is a call from a PM who's first commitment in office was a guarantee to go full term.


And they said that Abbott was dishonest ?



poor diddums... cannot handle the heat in the kitchen?  this crossbench is known as the most irresponsible in history.  now they get to choose between actually supporting the government - just for the novelty of it - or the dole queue. 

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 26th, 2016 at 5:14pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 11:23pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 4:31pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 1:01pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

Labor voter wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 8:47am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:28am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 8:18pm:
Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed

It should not even be legal to blackmail senators as is clearly the case here.

The Lib supporters clearly do not care how distant the current government maintain themselves away from any form of integrity.


So then what do you think of her blackmailing the government over a Defence pay rise?



Difference is she was blackmail the government for the defence force personal not for big business like the government is doing to the senators



so there is GOOD blackmail and BAD blackmail?


i look forward to your studies on ethics where you try and argue that one.


So an Independent holding out and refusing a vote without a quid pro quo is now 'blackmail'?

I look forward to the future of Australian politics...... when a member or senator can be thrown out of the House for refusing to abide by the demand of the ruling party that his/her vote go their way....  I mean - surely that government has a Mandate, and thus  everyone else MUST be in lockstep with it...

Isn't that precisely what is behind the current 'legislation' to effectively remove Independents from the House and the Senate?



yes!  she is not saying she will vote against a specific policy but against ALL bills.  it is blackmail, pure and simple. I will enjoy her getting thrown out in the DD


Same applies - where is there any obligation on the part of any Senator to vote for any bill at all...... apart from those who are nothing but party lackeys...... and who in his/her right mind would vote for them?



that whole 'democracy' thing is a mystery to you. isnt it?  the way our representatives are actually supposed to REPRESENT us and not simply express their own views solely?

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by The Grappler on Mar 26th, 2016 at 5:56pm
That whole 'democracy' thing is a mystery to you. isn't it?  The way our representatives are actually supposed to REPRESENT us and not simply express the views  of a majority in their party solely, nor are they obliged to get into lockstep with the government of the day, but are required to actually respond to the views of the electorate, and actually have a conscience about rejecting bad legislation put forward?

You are not discussing democracy here, dear General Luong Yi - you are discussing a dictatorship of a quasi-elected government party, quasi for the simple reason that they are not elected on their own merits, but on the often very wrongful perception of the voting public that they are something more than party hacks intent on their self-enrichment, and happy to bite the pillow to follow the party line lest they lose their perks and entitlements and their rosy  future.....

That is why Independents are precisely what we need here and now, and a limitation on the number of terms a person can remain in office..... and an abolition of the current government of two parties....

What part of 'democracy' tells you there is some demand on all elected representatives to abide by some mythical mandate of the governing party, when that 'mandate' always becomes nothing more than what they decide they want AFTER the election?

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 26th, 2016 at 6:09pm
Thank goodness for the senate  :)

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 26th, 2016 at 6:43pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 5:56pm:
That whole 'democracy' thing is a mystery to you. isn't it?  The way our representatives are actually supposed to REPRESENT us and not simply express the views  of a majority in their party solely, nor are they obliged to get into lockstep with the government of the day, but are required to actually respond to the views of the electorate, and actually have a conscience about rejecting bad legislation put forward?

You are not discussing democracy here, dear General Luong Yi - you are discussing a dictatorship of a quasi-elected government party, quasi for the simple reason that they are not elected on their own merits, but on the often very wrongful perception of the voting public that they are something more than party hacks intent on their self-enrichment, and happy to bite the pillow to follow the party line lest they lose their perks and entitlements and their rosy  future.....

That is why Independents are precisely what we need here and now, and a limitation on the number of terms a person can remain in office..... and an abolition of the current government of two parties....

What part of 'democracy' tells you there is some demand on all elected representatives to abide by some mythical mandate of the governing party, when that 'mandate' always becomes nothing more than what they decide they want AFTER the election?


you are truly an idiot, making it up as you go along.  you really have no idea about democracy or how it is supposed to work.  you are the kind of fool that would be happy with Stalin.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 26th, 2016 at 6:50pm
Good on you Jackie for coming out and saying the Liberals policies have more holes in them than a target at a shooting range , reiterating what we all know after watching them flip flop , backflip and abandon just about every single policy they have come up with.

Stick it up em Senate

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by The Grappler on Mar 26th, 2016 at 9:00pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 6:43pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 5:56pm:
That whole 'democracy' thing is a mystery to you. isn't it?  The way our representatives are actually supposed to REPRESENT us and not simply express the views  of a majority in their party solely, nor are they obliged to get into lockstep with the government of the day, but are required to actually respond to the views of the electorate, and actually have a conscience about rejecting bad legislation put forward?

You are not discussing democracy here, dear General Luong Yi - you are discussing a dictatorship of a quasi-elected government party, quasi for the simple reason that they are not elected on their own merits, but on the often very wrongful perception of the voting public that they are something more than party hacks intent on their self-enrichment, and happy to bite the pillow to follow the party line lest they lose their perks and entitlements and their rosy  future.....

That is why Independents are precisely what we need here and now, and a limitation on the number of terms a person can remain in office..... and an abolition of the current government of two parties....

What part of 'democracy' tells you there is some demand on all elected representatives to abide by some mythical mandate of the governing party, when that 'mandate' always becomes nothing more than what they decide they want AFTER the election?


you are truly an idiot, making it up as you go along.  you really have no idea about democracy or how it is supposed to work.  you are the kind of fool that would be happy with Stalin.


My dear shir - it is YOU who would be happy with Hitler... since you believe that Der Fuhrerbefehlen is the only way to go..... Abbott or Costello or Hockey or Turnbull have your mythical 'mandate' - and thus everyone must bow down and say, YES when they give the order, and anyone who doesn't - even when vastly out-numbered and in fact the one under siege and under threat - is somehow engaging in 'blackmail' - even when those with the power and control are those seeking to impose their will.

You are frankly insane.  I earnestly hope you have no children or grand-children.......

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Dnarever on Mar 26th, 2016 at 9:08pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:41am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:58pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:28am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 8:18pm:
Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed

It should not even be legal to blackmail senators as is clearly the case here.

The Lib supporters clearly do not care how distant the current government maintain themselves away from any form of integrity.


So then what do you think of her blackmailing the government over a Defence pay rise?


I don't think that one person taking a stand over a policy she believes in is in the same class as a whole party holding the threat of job loss over the head of senators in order to bully the senate into making a vote they know they would otherwise not be willing to make.

This is clearly bullying, intimidation, blackmail and shows a government seriously lacking in integrity.

Not only that it is a call from a PM who's first commitment in office was a guarantee to go full term.


And they said that Abbott was dishonest ?



poor diddums... cannot handle the heat in the kitchen?  this crossbench is known as the most irresponsible in history.  now they get to choose between actually supporting the government - just for the novelty of it - or the dole queue. 


Yes I knew you would support the lack of honesty, integrity and bullying with intimidation as good old fashioned dishonest liberal tactics.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by Dnarever on Mar 26th, 2016 at 9:10pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 11:41am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 5:58pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 25th, 2016 at 6:28am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 8:18pm:
Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed

It should not even be legal to blackmail senators as is clearly the case here.

The Lib supporters clearly do not care how distant the current government maintain themselves away from any form of integrity.


So then what do you think of her blackmailing the government over a Defence pay rise?


I don't think that one person taking a stand over a policy she believes in is in the same class as a whole party holding the threat of job loss over the head of senators in order to bully the senate into making a vote they know they would otherwise not be willing to make.

This is clearly bullying, intimidation, blackmail and shows a government seriously lacking in integrity.

Not only that it is a call from a PM who's first commitment in office was a guarantee to go full term.


And they said that Abbott was dishonest ?



poor diddums... cannot handle the heat in the kitchen?  this crossbench is known as the most irresponsible in history.  now they get to choose between actually supporting the government - just for the novelty of it - or the dole queue. 


this crossbench is known as the most irresponsible in history.


What a load of rubbish just because they are doing their job well and wont roll over and play dead for the liberals poor dishonest policies.

When Labor were in power you applauded them and called it holding the government to account on poor policy.

Title: Re: Jacqui Lambie Said She Wont Be Blackmailed
Post by The Grappler on Mar 26th, 2016 at 9:45pm
General Luong Yi seeks a one party government with its opposition totally internal and thus having no real voice.... as long as Der Fuhrer befehlen, alles ist gut!  Any dissenter is an enemy of the state, and defined as such by opposing the will of the government of that state, and must be rebuilt by re-education, work and concentration on the issues.... or simply dispensed with as an irreconcilable enemy of the state...... it is the duty of every good National Socialist to root out the evil within and extirpate it root and branch....

Is no opposition - is no problem....... all good Kommissars and menscheviks must defend the revolution and seek to curtail capitalist roading and anti-revolutionary sentiment.... there is no dishonour in betraying your grandmother if she is an Enemy Of the Revolution.....

(yet another parallel)....

"Why am I here?  (pause)  That is the big question you're all asking yourselves right now!  (pause)  Well.. it's not for the money.... I'm a GS 12... I don't pull enough to buy a good sports car..... and.. hey. it's not for the social life  (pause.. lapse into character at backyard barbecue)

"Hi - I'm a bank manager!"

"Hello - I'm Chief of Station for CIA Berlin!"

"That'll go down well... (pause) ... and it's not for the medals.... (looks around)  AHHHH - The Medals!  You know what..... you organise some fantastic coup in some Third World Sh1thole.. you know what they're gonna do?  They're gonna SHOW you your medal... then they're gonna lock it in the basement where nobody.. NOBODY.. will ever see it?

So it's not for the medals...... so... Why Are We Here?  (pause).....  We Are Here Because We Believe!  We Believe We can Make A Difference... And We Believe In Our Way Of Life!...... (pause).... now out there in the real world that might not mean very much..... but down here at The Farm..... we're gonna teach you how to jump out of an airplane in the middle of the night... we're gonna teach you to slit your grandmother's throat.... (pauses.... looks around the room.. nods).. Uh-Huh!  **nods meaningfully meaning YES**.. and we're going to teach you how to SURVIVE DOING IT!

So... gentlemen.. and with all due respect, LADIES.... let's just forget about all that and let's just get on with it... SO FOLLOW ME!" ** walks out of room fully expecting all to follow**

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