Wait for it.
There will be hand-wringing, tears, fields of flowers, light shows and singing.
There will be calls for "coming together" and we must not criticise Islam.
There will be renewed attacks on people who have warned about this as if they were responsible.

In fact there will be anything except the truth.
And the truth is Islam is a corrupting evil cult and the followers of it don't belong in civilised countries.
And the people who welcomed this horde into Europe need to be removed from power & influence, just as do those who would do the same on a smaller scale here.

And a further truth is Donald Trump is right on this.

Looks like the Libs are getting it right then.

I've got no idea what you mean mike.

But the great irony is that Geert Wilders, that brave man who has warned about this for years, is currently on trial for, in reality, telling the truth.

He's in great company though - people like Galileo went through the same.

Everyone knows there is only one way to deal with Islam. The problem is that many people don't want to admit it, because they are clinging to the old humanist idea that all cultures have the same values.

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 7:12am:

I've got no idea what you mean mike. But the great irony is that Gerry Wilders, that brave man who has warned about this for years, is currently on trial for, in reality, telling the truth. He's in great company though - people like Galileo went through the same.

you might not realise it but the Libs had to fight for our border control and turn the boats back...

YES FIGHT FOR IT>>>

the left still sneer at everything the libs do or have tried to do...

look at EUROPE LEFTIES TAKE A GOOD LOOK>>>>

THAT COULD BE US>>>if you had had your way..

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 6:22am:

Wait for it. There will be hand-wringing, tears, fields of flowers, light shows and singing. There will be calls for "coming together" and we must not criticise Islam. There will be renewed attacks on people who have warned about this as if they were responsible. In fact there will be anything except the truth. And the truth is Islam is a corrupting evil cult and the followers of it don't belong in civilised countries. And the people who welcomed this horde into Europe need to be removed from power & influence, just as do those who would do the same on a smaller scale here. And a further truth is Donald Trump is right on this.

http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-paranoia-is-just-another-word-for-ignorance-hunter-s-thompson-272450.jpg

I dont know where you guys had been getting your ideas from.  But the current crops of terrorism in Europe are actually the result of asymmetrical warfare resulting from conflicts in the Middle East and North Africa regions.  Regions which the West: Europe and USA - have important geopolitical and financial interests. 

Basically, groups like ISIS are facing an overwhelming powerful enemy - the Western war machine.  There is NO way, they can win this - in fact, they cant even safely hold their city in Iran or Iraq, and they are fully dependent on flow of foreign fundings and do not have the infrastructure or tax base to stand on their own feet. 

Facing these odds, their ONLY options of survival is two folds:
- Declare an ideology war of muslims and non muslims.
- Create fear and division inside enemy territory - which weaken political support for further military intervention in the long run, and create social division between resident muslims and non muslims. 

People, religion and beliefs are just texts and books.  They are dead things.  Whats killing people and create suffering are actually living and breathing humans.   Its people that bring with them evil. 

tickleandrose - terrorism comes from the Koran.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 10:34am:

tickleandrose - terrorism comes from the Koran.

Sprintcyclist: terrorism comes from human, crimes are made by people.   Religion itself are made by human as well.

Peace be upon you tickle.

The trouble is multiculturalism needs to be a two way street and it isn't.
The western civilisation which has evolved out of the Judao-Christian ethic has attempted to put in place a diversity tolerance which just doesn't have any relevance for the cultures which emerged out of Islam,
Sure they will use it, live under it, but it will never be part of their guiding philosophy. It will be reciprocated only until they have sufficient influence - and that may be much much less than a majority - to demand that Islam prevail & Islamic values be implemented into law.

The west is very slow to realise this. Propagandists refer us back to Spain under Islam and the Greek/Balkan world under the Ottoman Empire and try to claim these were periods of harmony.
They were not. There was only harmony for non-muslims if they paid special taxes and if they hid their religion.

You are forgiven your ignorance tickle. Decades of misguided infantile progressivism have done a job on you.

tickleandrose wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 8:43am:

I People, religion and beliefs are just texts and books.  They are dead things.  Whats killing people and create suffering are actually living and breathing humans.   Its people that bring with them evil.

Exactly!

The rightards are apologists for murderers.

Gulag 'em all, process the lot.... only release those who are guaranteed 'rehabilitated'...

Governments in the West are running sh!t scared of appearing to be 'Fascists' by seeking the protection of their own people from those who have no wish to be a genuine and contributing part of those people.

Just a side question... is there anyone who actually imagines that these heroic jihadists would even attempt some of the crimes they commit - if they knew that every Belgian who went to a football game carried an AK for self-defence?

These assetholes think we are soft because we are civilised....  they need to see the full weight of the Law and of just retribution to learn the truth.... which is that in a real-scale war they would be dust in a day.....

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 10:53am:

Peace be upon you tickle. The trouble is multiculturalism needs to be a two way street and it isn't. The western civilisation which has evolved out of the Judao-Christian ethic has attempted to put in place a diversity tolerance which just doesn't have any relevance for the cultures which emerged out of Islam, Sure they will use it, live under it, but it will never be part of their guiding philosophy. It will be reciprocated only until they have sufficient influence - and that may be much much less than a majority - to demand that Islam prevail & Islamic values be implemented into law. The west is very slow to realise this. Propagandists refer us back to Spain under Islam and the Greek/Balkan world under the Ottoman Empire and try to claim these were periods of harmony. They were not. There was only harmony for non-muslims if they paid special taxes and if they hid their religion. You are forgiven your ignorance tickle. Decades of misguided infantile progressivism have done a job on you. Posted by: tickleandrose  Mark & Quote Quote      Posted on: Today at 11:39am Sprintcyclist wrote Today at 11:34am:

Right on there Boges

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 10:53am:

Peace be upon you tickle. The trouble is multiculturalism needs to be a two way street and it isn't. The western civilisation which has evolved out of the Judao-Christian ethic has attempted to put in place a diversity tolerance which just doesn't have any relevance for the cultures which emerged out of Islam, Sure they will use it, live under it, but it will never be part of their guiding philosophy. It will be reciprocated only until they have sufficient influence - and that may be much much less than a majority - to demand that Islam prevail & Islamic values be implemented into law. The west is very slow to realise this. Propagandists refer us back to Spain under Islam and the Greek/Balkan world under the Ottoman Empire and try to claim these were periods of harmony. They were not. There was only harmony for non-muslims if they paid special taxes and if they hid their religion. You are forgiven your ignorance tickle. Decades of misguided infantile progressivism have done a job on you.

Let me remind you that although Christianity had been very important in history of Western Civilization, it was really used by the ruling class to control the masses.   If you look at just the history of England, e.g the times of Henry VIII.  All the blood shed, the talks of Protestant,  Vs Catholicism, all really boil down to political power struggle between the ruling elite. 

I believe, our modern, free democratic society did not rise out of Christianity or religion, but rather through advancement of society and human altruism.   

It started with the industrial revolution - prior to that over 90% of the population were serfs, farmers.   With the change, bought about by advancement of science and technology, the society have to branch out, new jobs were created that required more skills.   More skill meant people that were previously deprived of education, will have to get one in order for the country to remain competitive.  Living standards began to rise.   And with this, ushered an era of middle class.   Its in these environment, where human Altruism can take root, and give rise to equality - first to the under class, then women, and then the minority and the disabled.   

If you look at movements like Woman's suffrage - religion have very little to do with it, and in fact in certain circumstances work against it. 

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 10:34am:

tickleandrose - terrorism comes from the Koran.

http://i.stack.imgur.com/NTsOF.jpg

tickleandrose wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 11:12am:

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 10:53am: Peace be upon you tickle. The trouble is multiculturalism needs to be a two way street and it isn't. The western civilisation which has evolved out of the Judao-Christian ethic has attempted to put in place a diversity tolerance which just doesn't have any relevance for the cultures which emerged out of Islam, Sure they will use it, live under it, but it will never be part of their guiding philosophy. It will be reciprocated only until they have sufficient influence - and that may be much much less than a majority - to demand that Islam prevail & Islamic values be implemented into law. The west is very slow to realise this. Propagandists refer us back to Spain under Islam and the Greek/Balkan world under the Ottoman Empire and try to claim these were periods of harmony. They were not. There was only harmony for non-muslims if they paid special taxes and if they hid their religion. You are forgiven your ignorance tickle. Decades of misguided infantile progressivism have done a job on you. Let me remind you that although Christianity had been very important in history of Western Civilization, it was really used by the ruling class to control the masses.   If you look at just the history of England, e.g the times of Henry VIII.  All the blood shed, the talks of Protestant,  Vs Catholicism, all really boil down to political power struggle between the ruling elite.  I believe, our modern, free democratic society did not rise out of Christianity or religion, but rather through advancement of society and human altruism.    It started with the industrial revolution - prior to that over 90% of the population were serfs, farmers.   With the change, bought about by advancement of science and technology, the society have to branch out, new jobs were created that required more skills.   More skill meant people that were previously deprived of education, will have to get one in order for the country to remain competitive.  Living standards began to rise.   And with this, ushered an era of middle class.   Its in these environment, where human Altruism can take root, and give rise to equality - first to the under class, then women, and then the minority and the disabled.    If you look at movements like Woman's suffrage - religion have very little to do with it, and in fact in certain circumstances work against it.

An interesting perspecive but possibly wrong.
society can advance , as you say, but go backwards in terms of higher consciousness.

Facebook, Mcdonalds, Junk TV, porn...these are the things many people latch onto in our advancing society, but i would doubt they are leading us to "human altruism and higher consciousness"

What will?

religions, believe it or not, DO contain the nugget of truth that can lead people to a higher conscious state and mindful living.

All religions point towards "spiritual enlightenment"

But it is a "truth which cannot be communicated" and this is where religions fail.

they try to teach these higher ideals and try to get people to attain this state IN THOUGHT.

Thought =  ego.
Ego  =  lower consciousness.

Religions therefore, by not recognising this lead to bigger egos as people adopt the "i'm right and youre wrong  narrative"   and this is where all the problems come from.

Spiritual enlightenment can only be experienced .
It cannot be taught.

If you try to teach it, it is just another story to be attached to which strengthens the ego , strengthens the  "you" as seperate and you get nowhere.

Religion as a belief system...just stories
Science as a belief system...just stories
Intellectualism as a belief system...just stories.

meditate, empty the mind of thought, deny the self (jesus taught this best) and the truth will arise.

But each person has to go on this journey by themselves.

facebook , the internet, science, the bible, the koran, a guru, cant give it to you.

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 11:33am:

Thought =  ego. Ego  =  lower consciousness.

https://i.imgflip.com/10aj2l.jpg

re Aquascoot

Well, certainly, I think religion have a very important role to play in human society.   Not everything about religion is evil or irrelevant.   But I would like to argue that just because someone is of certain religious persuasion, it does not make a person right/wrong, evil/good, and certainly not us/them. 

I believe that all the world conflicts past, present and future, all evils are actually carried out by humanity.  And that religion had been used again and again as tools, to involve otherwise innocent and uninvolved people into a conflict between the elite few. 


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religions, believe it or not, DO contain the nugget of truth that can lead people to a higher conscious state and mindful living. All religions point towards "spiritual enlightenment"

This is a very interesting point.  But, Aqua, what is higher conscious state?   Do we really need religion to achieve a meaningful or mindful living?   I believe, so called enlightenment, or higher conscious state, are mixture of chemical reactions and neural synapses in our brain, determined part by genetics, and also environmental influences.   People are neither good/bad (and this definition of good or bad are fluid and ever changing), they conform to the society's law out of basic need for survival.   

And then there is altruism.  Most people do good things (e.g. helping the poor, sick, weak) because it fundamentally makes them feel better.  And they would do the same, even if they do not go to the church.   Like wise on the topic of terrorism.   Even if Islam does not exist today, the same people given the same condition will still perpetrate the same acts of terrorism using different control methods.

tickleandrose wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 11:56am:

re Aquascoot Well, certainly, I think religion have a very important role to play in human society.   Not everything about religion is evil or irrelevant.   But I would like to argue that just because someone is of certain religious persuasion, it does not make a person right/wrong, evil/good, and certainly not us/them.  I believe that all the world conflicts past, present and future, all evils are actually carried out by humanity.  And that religion had been used again and again as tools, to involve otherwise innocent and uninvolved people into a conflict between the elite few.  Quote: religions, believe it or not, DO contain the nugget of truth that can lead people to a higher conscious state and mindful living. All religions point towards "spiritual enlightenment" This is a very interesting point.  But, Aqua, what is higher conscious state?   Do we really need religion to achieve a meaningful or mindful living?   I believe, so called enlightenment, or higher conscious state, are mixture of chemical reactions and neural synapses in our brain, determined part by genetics, and also environmental influences.   People are neither good/bad (and this definition of good or bad are fluid and ever changing), they conform to the society's law out of basic need for survival.    And then there is altruism.  Most people do good things (e.g. helping the poor, sick, weak) because it fundamentally makes them feel better.  And they would do the same, even if they do not go to the church.   Like wise on the topic of terrorism.   Even if Islam does not exist today, the same people given the same condition will still perpetrate the same acts of terrorism using different control methods.

i agree religions dont really cut the mustard.
there is nothing wrong with the message but it cant be taught to low consciousness people.
luther discovered this when he found his ideas (which were very good and enlightened) were used by the rabble as an excuse to create mayhem , pillage and destroy.

Higher consciousness states are probably the hope for humankind to move forward.

The truly higher conscious state requires the diminishment of ego.
And this is such a tricky thing, such a nuanced thing.
Because , to be attached to the idea that , say, "i am altruistic" , STRENGTHENS the ego and creates yet another divide and source of "otherness: and achieves zero.


I'll give you an example.

Miss Hansen Young , would, i am sure, see herself as a very 'altruistic person".
But when you hear her on the radio, talking about the fine people of suburban australia and speaking with such venom and such animosity....it becomes obvious that this altruism is not bringing people together but is , in fact, driving people apart.

I feel, we will get there (to higher consciousness) mainly through a growing awareness of the eastern philosophies.

May i share with you some of the ideas of the Dao.
This is one religion that we could embrace perhaps  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFb7Hxva5rg

European security services knew that IS recruiters & hardened fighters were coming in with the hordes but they were pretty much silenced from issuing warnings, just as they have been silenced over the sex attacks
It's an insidious process. The media is pressured into silence by the left wing traitors, the govts are pressured into silence by the left wing media and the police & security are pressured to keep stumm by the govts.

And all the while the evil that is Islam festers away, spreads through the European corpus and nobody has the courage to take the necessary & decisive action.

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 10:53am:

The trouble is multiculturalism needs to be a two way street and it isn't..

yeah ... cause no westerners are going to the ME and killing anyone  :D :D :D

you got it right without even realising it. :D :D :D

It is a two way street. You go there and kill them, they come to your country and try to kill you. What are you whinging for?

The west needs to stay out of the ME. It's not a difficult solution, it just means we give up some oil and the American war machine runs out of excuses to stay at war. Both thing the West, and America especially, refuse to give up, no matter how many are killed.

John Smith wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 1:53pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 10:53am: The trouble is multiculturalism needs to be a two way street and it isn't.. yeah ... cause no westerners are going to the ME and killing anyone  :D :D :D you got it right without even realising it. :D :D :D It is a two way street. You go there and kill them, they come to your country and try to kill you. What are you whinging for? The west needs to stay out of the ME. It's not a difficult solution, it just means we give up some oil and the American war machine runs out of excuses to stay at war. Both thing the West, and America especially, refuse to give up, no matter how many are killed.

And guess what? What you say is what Donald Trump wants to do.

tickleandrose wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 11:56am:

...............  Most people do good things (e.g. helping the poor, sick, weak) because it fundamentally makes them feel better.  And they would do the same, even if they do not go to the church...........

Indeed.
WHY does doing a good deed make someone feel good ?

Why is 'helping someone' a 'reward' ?

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 2:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 1:53pm: bogarde73 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 10:53am: The trouble is multiculturalism needs to be a two way street and it isn't.. yeah ... cause no westerners are going to the ME and killing anyone  :D :D :D you got it right without even realising it. :D :D :D It is a two way street. You go there and kill them, they come to your country and try to kill you. What are you whinging for? The west needs to stay out of the ME. It's not a difficult solution, it just means we give up some oil and the American war machine runs out of excuses to stay at war. Both thing the West, and America especially, refuse to give up, no matter how many are killed. And guess what? What you say is what Donald Trump wants to do.

except that anyone who give give Trump access to the key to the nukes would have to be crazier than he is.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 2:24pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 11:56am: ...............  Most people do good things (e.g. helping the poor, sick, weak) because it fundamentally makes them feel better.  And they would do the same, even if they do not go to the church...........    Indeed. WHY does doing a good deed make someone feel good ? Why is 'helping someone' a 'reward' ?

please don't tell me the reward is religion .  :D :D

John Smith wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 2:25pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 2:06pm: John Smith wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 1:53pm: bogarde73 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 10:53am: The trouble is multiculturalism needs to be a two way street and it isn't.. yeah ... cause no westerners are going to the ME and killing anyone  :D :D :D you got it right without even realising it. :D :D :D It is a two way street. You go there and kill them, they come to your country and try to kill you. What are you whinging for? The west needs to stay out of the ME. It's not a difficult solution, it just means we give up some oil and the American war machine runs out of excuses to stay at war. Both thing the West, and America especially, refuse to give up, no matter how many are killed. And guess what? What you say is what Donald Trump wants to do. except that anyone who give give Trump access to the key to the nukes would have to be crazier than he is.

Take the shades off John. There's a whole world of reality out there.

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 2:37pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 2:25pm: bogarde73 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 2:06pm: John Smith wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 1:53pm: bogarde73 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 10:53am: The trouble is multiculturalism needs to be a two way street and it isn't.. yeah ... cause no westerners are going to the ME and killing anyone  :D :D :D you got it right without even realising it. :D :D :D It is a two way street. You go there and kill them, they come to your country and try to kill you. What are you whinging for? The west needs to stay out of the ME. It's not a difficult solution, it just means we give up some oil and the American war machine runs out of excuses to stay at war. Both thing the West, and America especially, refuse to give up, no matter how many are killed. And guess what? What you say is what Donald Trump wants to do. except that anyone who give give Trump access to the key to the nukes would have to be crazier than he is. Take the shades off John. There's a whole world of reality out there.

sure, but no matter what shade of reality you choose to look through, Trump is still a nutcase.

"sure, but no matter what shade of * Lefty Globalist * reality you choose to look through, Trump is still a nutcase."

No one's mentioned the Brussels's bombing here.

It goes without saying that the Belgians brought this upon themselves as surely as one fastens a rope around ones neck and kicks the chair away.

70% of the inhabitants of the Belgian capital are foreigners - mostly Muslims.

Laissez-faire liberalism has brought this ridiculous situation to come to pass.

And then they've had that Muslim ghetto for YEARS now that the authorities knew was a hotbed of Islamic extremism.

It's a case of the Belgians having made their own bed and now having to lie in it.

The most popular name in Belgium is 'Mohammed'.

The idíots voted in the same old Leftwing parties election after election with the result that they've now been hoisted upon their own petard.

Don't blame the Muslims - blame the politicians and the morónic voting public for these bombings and the fact that the native Belgians are only 30% of the inhabitants of their own historic capital city.

Not the slightest sympathy from me. I hope more bombs go off. It's Darwin's Law of Culling the Idíots from the Herd.

John Smith wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 2:25pm:

except that anyone who give Trump access to the key to the nukes would have to be crazier than he is.

And considering the fact that no such person exists, that's exactly why Drumpf will never be POTUS.

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 2:57pm:

No one's mentioned the Brussels's bombing here. It goes without saying that the Belgians brought this upon themselves as surely as one fastens a rope around ones neck and kicks the chair away. 70% of the inhabitants of the Belgian capital are foreigners - mostly Muslims. Laissez-faire liberalism has brought this ridiculous situation to come to pass. And then they've had that Muslim ghetto for YEARS now that the authorities knew was a hotbed of Islamic extremism. It's a case of the Belgians having made their own bed and now having to lie in it. The most popular name in Belgium is 'Mohammed'. The idíots voted in the same old Leftwing parties election after election with the result that they've now been hoisted upon their own petard. Don't blame the Muslims - blame the politicians and the morónic voting public for these bombings and the fact that the native Belgians are only 30% of the inhabitants of their own historic capital city. Not the slightest sympathy from me. I hope more bombs go off. It's Darwin's Law of Culling the Idíots from the Herd.

Apologist.

What do you mean nobody mentioned it?
The whole point of the thread was discussing the cause of it. I thought it was understood.

Still I suppose it opens the way for discussing the inevitable subsequent attacks.

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 2:57pm:

No one's mentioned the Brussels's bombing here.

muslims did it.

Ban islam.

Recoup all the costs from the mosques in Brussels.

interesting post herb.

much of society is stuck in group think and lazy thinking.
not many have the willpower to think deeply as you do.

most are limited to playing candy-crush or posting one word slogans like "apologist"

The islamic terrorists...lets look at these guys, even Bin laden.
They have money, they could go lie on a beach in lebanon and play solitaire on their laptops.
I am sort of coming around to a mild admiration to their commitment, their work ethic, their decision to not succumb to mediocre nothingness, their courage...yes, they may be evil but they are courageous. (hell i am not strong willed enough to wear a frigging explosive vest).

maybe we just need to let this phenomenom run its course.
it could be the stimulation that is needed to break the populace out of their mediocrity.

I think some of it is this.....

the lefties hate hard work. it would be dammed hard work to get out their and match the jihadists.
i think their minds wont let them acknowledge what is happening because they would then have to take action.
and they are not exactly men of action are they  ;) ;).

i'm sort of with you.....they sort of deserve it  and i sort of dont have a lot of sympathy . if they wont man up...hard to feel sorry for cowards

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 6:22am:

Wait for it. There will be hand-wringing, tears, fields of flowers, light shows and singing. There will be calls for "coming together" and we must not criticise Islam. There will be renewed attacks on people who have warned about this as if they were responsible. In fact there will be anything except the truth. And the truth is Islam is a corrupting evil cult and the followers of it don't belong in civilised countries. And the people who welcomed this horde into Europe need to be removed from power & influence, just as do those who would do the same on a smaller scale here. And a further truth is Donald Trump is right on this.

Aren't they freedom fighters like in Chechnya and Kosovo?.

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 4:00pm:

interesting post herb. much of society is stuck in group think and lazy thinking. not many have the willpower to think deeply as you do.

https://d.gr-assets.com/hostedimages/1380222758ra/410729.gif

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 4:00pm:

to think deeply as you do.

Herb gets about as deep as the pigment on their skin  ::) ::)

Here's the pathos of Europe's defenses. A couple of days ago, the Belgian authorities announce that Abdedslam is a ''Gold mine of information.'' They were crowing about their success, as if Ab was going to give them important info. And then, BANG!

It another example of why we should just top them on sight.

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 4:00pm:

interesting post herb. much of society is stuck in group think and lazy thinking. not many have the willpower to think deeply as you do. most are limited to playing candy-crush or posting one word slogans like "apologist" The islamic terrorists...lets look at these guys, even Bin laden. They have money, they could go lie on a beach in lebanon and play solitaire on their laptops. I am sort of coming around to a mild admiration to their commitment, their work ethic, their decision to not succumb to mediocre nothingness, their courage...yes, they may be evil but they are courageous. (hell i am not strong willed enough to wear a frigging explosive vest). maybe we just need to let this phenomenom run its course. it could be the stimulation that is needed to break the populace out of their mediocrity. I think some of it is this..... the lefties hate hard work. it would be dammed hard work to get out their and match the jihadists. i think their minds wont let them acknowledge what is happening because they would then have to take action. and they are not exactly men of action are they  ;) ;). i'm sort of with you.....they sort of deserve it  and i sort of dont have a lot of sympathy . if they wont man up...hard to feel sorry for cowards

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_x-u755964oE/SdH8BLMQRVI/AAAAAAAAADE/fcwCzDmPdsY/S1600-R/headertest5.jpg

Sure sign of a mental illness.

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 1:04pm:

European security services knew that IS recruiters & hardened fighters were coming in with the hordes but they were pretty much silenced from issuing warnings, just as they have been silenced over the sex attacks

And NOW we learn that Belgium ignored Turkey's warnings to them about one of these suicide bombers being on the loose again after release from prison.

The Belgians have no one to blame but themselves. They thought it was 'progressive' and ' morally enlightened' to play host to a capital city in which 70% are immigrants of Muslim background - and now what these naive fools have just witnessed is their chickens coming home to roost.

Marla wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 3:26am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:00pm: interesting post herb. much of society is stuck in group think and lazy thinking. not many have the willpower to think deeply as you do. most are limited to playing candy-crush or posting one word slogans like "apologist" The islamic terrorists...lets look at these guys, even Bin laden. They have money, they could go lie on a beach in lebanon and play solitaire on their laptops. I am sort of coming around to a mild admiration to their commitment, their work ethic, their decision to not succumb to mediocre nothingness, their courage...yes, they may be evil but they are courageous. (hell i am not strong willed enough to wear a frigging explosive vest). maybe we just need to let this phenomenom run its course. it could be the stimulation that is needed to break the populace out of their mediocrity. I think some of it is this..... the lefties hate hard work. it would be dammed hard work to get out their and match the jihadists. i think their minds wont let them acknowledge what is happening because they would then have to take action. and they are not exactly men of action are they  ;) ;). i'm sort of with you.....they sort of deserve it  and i sort of dont have a lot of sympathy . if they wont man up...hard to feel sorry for cowards http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_x-u755964oE/SdH8BLMQRVI/AAAAAAAAADE/fcwCzDmPdsY/S1600-R/headertest5.jpg Sure sign of a mental illness.

Like i said, i sort of have an admiration for the islamic terrorists because they have a plan, they show commitment to the plan, they dont give up, ...(but yes , their plan is evil).

Its hard to have admiration for the likes of you.
Your life seems directionless, you are never at the 'cause' ,you are always at the "effect". you never think of anything original to say, you are only capable of commenting on other peoples original thought.
You never build anything, you only seek to tear down.

In a way , many of the looney left are like the islamic terrorists in their ambitions but just too lazy, cowardly and directionless to take action.

maybe thats why you and greg identify with them.
they are out there in the world taking the action you would like to if you both got off your lazy bums  ;)

The light shows will be switched off, the flowers cleared away after a respectful period, the media moves on . . .life moves on. But it's going to happen again & again.

I see some hope in Trump's isolationism if he gets elected. Best thing that could happen is the west stays out of it all and sends all the Syrians et all home to sort their own troubles out and rebuild their countries.

My thumbs are too big

aquascoot wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 6:51am:

they are out there in the world taking the action you would like to if you both got off your lazy bums  ;)

The crazy muslims are the leftards proxy, leftards in general have a fear of confrontation and seek to find others to do their dirty work for them, this is why they like to rile up the blacks and other minorities and then sic them on the right, so that they can do the fighting for them.

The mad muslim is seen by the left as just another weapon it can use to defeat the right, usually by garnering their votes but also by using any other means neccasary, the left abhor violence but only to the point where they are actually a victim of it themselves, a muslim massacre will be tolerated by the left as its aims are similar to theirs, chaos and an attack on the system, the results will benefit them too.

We already have many examples of how the left are trying to manipulate the muslim into attacking mutually beneficial targets, a tactic the left are now using is to publish the private names and addresses of the mutual enemies of both the muslim and the left in the hope that some insane muslim will commit murder on the lefts behalf.

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 7:26am:

The light shows will be switched off, the flowers cleared away after a respectful period, the media moves on

K-selected Art Vs r-selected Art – Terrorism


When 9/11 went down you saw examples of K-selected art highlighted by the media:

http://i0.wp.com/www.angelfire.com/ab6/wizardsnlace/EnduringFreedom.jpg

It said ominously, “Nice shot – Now it’s our turn.” Inherent to it was a sense of independent self-reliance, and imminent vengeance. We didn’t need sympathy, we didn’t give a bugger what other people thought about us, we just wanted to get it on with the scumbags who attacked our nation.

There is a strong, violent, K-selected strain that runs strongly enough through American culture that back then it frightened the American liberal media enough to make them cater to it’s desires with art like that.






Today the liberal cartoonists in Europe are a little bit different


http://media.indiatimes.in/media/content/2016/Mar/brus_1458651518.jpg


Belgium was attacked, so the liberal European artsy types, represented by doughy blob-like flags, want some sympathy, some heart-shaped floating love bubbles, and a good group-cry-hug, because of what those evil meanies did. Inherent to the theme is a sense of helplessness, a desire to avoid the problem, a desire to acquire the emotional approval of others, and wholly absent is any sense of imminent violent and brutal retribution. I am actually disgusted, in a deep, visceral way, as I look at that pathetic image.

These are two very different psychologies, and as time goes on all of our populations are splitting ever more widely, to the point we not only no longer understand each other – we cannot tolerate each other. Doubtless there are Europeans who cringed at these pictures as strongly as any K-strategist, and there were liberals in America on 9/11 who would have preferred some variant of the two crying flags. We all hate each other, and there is no reasoning through it.


http://anonymousconservativ.ipage.com/blog/

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 7:26am:

The light shows will be switched off, the flowers cleared away after a respectful period, the media moves on . . .life moves on. But it's going to happen again & again. I see some hope in Trump's isolationism if he gets elected. Best thing that could happen is the west stays out of it all and sends all the Syrians et all home to sort their own troubles out and rebuild their countries.

Over 25 years ago one of my 'best friend' workmates told me that things in the Middle East will never settle down until America and her lap-dog allies get the hell out of there and "Mind their own business".

This was from a part-Negro Muslim whose name was Mohammed.

I think he was dead right.

But I'll go further and say - Western societies will remain fractured and multi-partisan along ethnic and religious lines for as long as their Muslim communities are out-breeding the locals towards an eventual predominance.

We've already learnt that London is no longer a majority-white capital city, and that Brussels is made up of a staggering 70% migrant population that is mostly Muslim. 

To say that "The Writing is on the Wall" would be an understatement of where this is all taking us.

Bye bye Belgium it was nice knowing you  ;D





Since 2009, Mohamed is the most popular given name in Brussels and Antwerp, Belgium's two largest cities


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Belgium

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 7:26am:

The light shows will be switched off, the flowers cleared away after a respectful period, the media moves on . . .life moves on. But it's going to happen again & again. I see some hope in Trump's isolationism if he gets elected. Best thing that could happen is the west stays out of it all and sends all the Syrians et all home to sort their own troubles out and rebuild their countries.

I'm a very big fan of the british empire and the stiff upper lip .
i think that the empire in the times of queen victoria was a very enlightened concept.

let me fast forward to when Dianna died.

As a lover of all things british, i thought that the british would respond with the traditional stiff upper lip , robust, stoic mentality.

how wrong i was.

i think this was the first inkling i had, as an aussie , of just how far the british had fallen off the path.

the whole nation seemed to descend into some weird parralel universe of absolutely girly crybaby fearful emotional childish dribble.

To see grown men, who 100 years earlier , would have been "making the world british", now placing teddy bears at countless memorials and crying like women was truly pitiful.

I hope Dianna got all the bears.

it was at that moment , i realised, britain is GONE !!!

innocentbystander. wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 8:26am:

Bye bye Belgium it was nice knowing you  ;D Since 2009, Mohamed is the most popular given name in Brussels and Antwerp, Belgium's two largest cities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Belgium

Dear O dear O dear ... and Christ wept.

" Britain and the rest of the European Union are ignoring a demographic time bomb: a recent rush into the EU by migrants, including millions of Muslims, will change the continent beyond recognition over the next two decades, and almost no policy-makers are talking about it.

The numbers are startling. Only 3.2 per cent of Spain's population was foreign-born in 1998. In 2007 it was 13.4 per cent. Europe's Muslim population has more than doubled in the past 30 years and will have doubled again by 2015. In Brussels, the top seven baby boys' names recently were Mohamed, Adam, Rayan, Ayoub, Mehdi, Amine and Hamza.

Europe's low white birth rate, coupled with faster multiplying migrants, will change fundamentally what we take to mean by European culture and society. The altered population mix has far-reaching implications for education, housing, welfare, labour, the arts and everything in between. It could have a critical impact on foreign policy: a study was submitted to the US Air Force on how America's relationship with Europe might evolve. Yet EU officials admit that these issues are not receiving the attention they deserve.


Brussels has a large concentration of Muslims, mostly of Turkish and Moroccan ancestry. Belgium does not collect statistics by ethnic background, so exact figures are unknown. It was estimated that in 2005 people of Muslim background account for 25.5% of Brussels' population


15 and a half years ago ... 25% of the Brussels population.

All their own work.

Idíots of the highest order.

Been on a mission to Self-Destruct for yonkers now.

Sweden too.

And France and Germany.

"If you're a Muslim or a Black - Please migrate here to help us perform a Jonestown-type Self-Genocide within a few decades. We will have Welfare support waiting for you if work is not your cup of tea. Thank You - and Have a Nice Day".

Will Islamic state of Belgium still make lovely chocolates?.
They are so good.

capitosinora wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 8:55am:

Will Islamic state of Belgium still make lovely chocolates?. They are so good.

It's all Halal Certificated chocolate nowadays - with part of the money going to fund 'Islamic causes' (nice smoke-screen there).

how do you people sleep with the knowledge that the Muslims are coming for you? Maybe you should all reinforce your houses with bomb proof glass and steel sheeting

John Smith wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 9:03am:

how do you people sleep with the knowledge that the Muslims are coming for you? Maybe you should all reinforce your houses with bomb proof glass and steel sheeting

How would you like to see Muslim Activists such as ISIS rampaging through Italy while smashing the Michelangelo statues, the Sistine Chapel ceiling, the Roman viaducts and coliseum, the Art Galleries, the famous buildings, etc etc?

Are you quite sure you're playing apologist for the right people, John?

We're not losing any sleep John.
But some of us see a bad time coming because multiculturalism is a failed policy. Those with a backbone are even saying that in Europe now.

One news source I saw this morning points out that Europe's social welfare system is creaking from the demands being made on it by muslims, old & new.

It is no coincidence that the decline of the French economy correlates nicely with the growth of the muslim population there.

It's a disaster, but it's a disaster that can be reversed given some spine. Winston Churchill wouldn't have hesitated to act decisively.

Belgium does not collect statistics by ethnic background, so exact figures are unknown

Why does that not surprise me.

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 9:07am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:03am: how do you people sleep with the knowledge that the Muslims are coming for you? Maybe you should all reinforce your houses with bomb proof glass and steel sheeting How would you like to see Muslim Activists such as ISIS rampaging through Italy while smashing the Michelangelo statues, the Sistine Chapel ceiling, the Roman viaducts and coliseum, the Art Galleries, the famous buildings, etc etc? Are you quite sure you're playing apologist for the right people, John?

I wouldn't ... but like I've said a hundred times, you can't go there and bomb them to hell and back, and then expect them not to retaliate. Farkkk off out of the M.E. and leave them to themselves.

The only apologist is you Herb.  You're the using extremists as an excuse to target Islam in general. We destroy whole cities in their homeland and then you whinge when the population looks for safety elsewhere.

You can whinge all you like about what terrorists do, unless you remove the cause of all this angst against westerners, you won't stop them. You're crying about it certainly isn't very high on their lists of concerns.

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 9:12am:

We're not losing any sleep John.

certainly sounds like it for some on here ... from morning till night, almost every post for some is about the muslims.

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 9:12am:

We're not losing any sleep John. But some of us see a bad time coming because multiculturalism is a failed policy. Those with a backbone are even saying that in Europe now. One news source I saw this morning points out that Europe's social welfare system is creaking from the demands being made on it by muslims, old & new. It is no coincidence that the decline of the French economy correlates nicely with the growth of the muslim population there. It's a disaster, but it's a disaster that can be reversed given some spine. Winston Churchill wouldn't have hesitated to act decisively.

Even that Far Leftwing UK PM - David Cameron - of the 'Conservative' (SIC) Party has buckled under the obvious ...

"After Merkel, Cameron too says multiculturalism has failed"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY885BHiC5Q

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 9:07am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:03am: how do you people sleep with the knowledge that the Muslims are coming for you? Maybe you should all reinforce your houses with bomb proof glass and steel sheeting How would you like to see Muslim Activists such as ISIS rampaging through Italy while smashing the Michelangelo statues, the Sistine Chapel ceiling, the Roman viaducts and coliseum, the Art Galleries, the famous buildings, etc etc? Are you quite sure you're playing apologist for the right people, John?

Actually, you're playing the apologist, Herbie.

You go out of your way to make excuses for these terrorists/murderers/thugs.

You want to shift the blame as far away from the individuals as possible.

Your trolling is only exceeded by your hypocrisy.

John Smith wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 9:16am:

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:12am: We're not losing any sleep John. certainly sounds like it for some on here ... from morning till night, almost every post for some is about the muslims.

"For as long as they keep making the news - we'll keep talking about them"

When the growing number of Muslims in the West no longer poses a threat to our future generations - then so too will we fall silent on the issue.

Aren't you a father, John? Can't see - or refuse to see - beyond your own nose on where all this Muslim immigration and drama is taking us?

Geert Wilders:

Dutch Party For Freedom (PVV) leader and prominent counter-Islamist campaigner Geert Wilders has spoken exclusively to Breitbart London in the aftermath of this morning’s major terror attack and has lamented it is just the beginning of growing Islamist violence.

Mr. Wilders said: “I fear that we ain’t seen nothing yet. According to Europol 3,000 to 5,000 European jihadists, who went to Syria to fight in the ranks of IS and similar terrorist groups, have meanwhile returned to Western Europe. Some of them hid among the hundreds of thousands of Islamic asylum seekers that entered Europe from Asia and Africa.

“Two of last November’s terrorist in Paris had fought in Syria. So had the terrorist who, last August, attempted to attack the high speed train between Amsterdam and Paris. So had the two terrorists who, in January 2015, massacred the editorial staff of Charlie Hebdo. So had the terrorist who, in May 2014, shot four people at the Jewish Museum in Brussels”.

Belgian police have recently said at least 90 returned fighters from the Islamic State are living at liberty in Brussels, many of them in the infamous Molenbeek neighbourhood. European Commission insider Hermann Kelly told Breitbart Radio this morning he was concerned so many lived just miles from the political capital of the European Union.

Mr. Kelly said: “This is amazing to me that these people can kill people abroad, come here, and then walk free in the centre of Brussels”. On this, Mr. Wilders remarked: “Returned Syria fighters are a huge threat. They are dangerous predators roaming our streets. It is absolutely unbelievable that our governments allow them to return. And it is incredible that, once returned, they are not imprisoned.

“In the Netherlands, we have dozens of these returned jihadists. Our government allows most of them to freely walk our streets and refuses to lock them up. I demand that they be detained at once. Every government in the West, which refuses to do so, is a moral accessory if one of these monsters commits an atrocity.

“The government must also close our national borders. The European Union’s Schengen zone, where no border controls are allowed, is a catastrophe. The Belgian Moroccan Salah Abdeslam, the mastermind of last November’s bloodbath in Paris, travelled freely from Belgium to the Netherlands on multiple occasions last year.

“This is intolerable. Open borders are a huge safety risk. Our citizens are in mortal danger if we do not restore control over our own national borders”.

Speaking earlier today Mr. Wilders lamented that commuters were killed in “cold blood” and said “The cause of all this bloodshed is Islam. We need to de-Islamize the West. That is the only way to safeguard our lives and protect our freedom”.

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 9:37am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:16am: bogarde73 wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:12am: We're not losing any sleep John. certainly sounds like it for some on here ... from morning till night, almost every post for some is about the muslims. "For as long as they keep making the news - we'll keep talking about them" When the growing number of Muslims in the West no longer poses a threat to our future generations - then so too will we fall silent on the issue. Aren't you a father, John? Can't see - or refuse to see - beyond your own nose on where all this Muslim immigration and drama is taking us?

you go beyond talk, you obsess ... and what about the threat the west imposes on their future generations?

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 9:07am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:03am: how do you people sleep with the knowledge that the Muslims are coming for you? Maybe you should all reinforce your houses with bomb proof glass and steel sheeting How would you like to see Muslim Activists such as ISIS rampaging through Italy while smashing the Michelangelo statues, the Sistine Chapel ceiling, the Roman viaducts and coliseum, the Art Galleries, the famous buildings, etc etc? Are you quite sure you're playing apologist for the right people, John?

I think its wonderful that some live in such a world they believe this will never come here...


it will because it has too......we are lucky we are so vigilant and capture those before they blow anything up... but because of complacency and should shortarse get back in.. most of our security could  stop....

even cancelling passports was a monumental ask for shortarse..and Co.,..

and look at Brussels... they didnt cancel passports so now they are reaping their rewards...

Belgium has the highest number of locals fleeing  to Syria to join ISIS..

and they let them come back........ ::) ::) ::)


makes sense to some.

cods wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 9:57am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:07am: John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:03am: how do you people sleep with the knowledge that the Muslims are coming for you? Maybe you should all reinforce your houses with bomb proof glass and steel sheeting How would you like to see Muslim Activists such as ISIS rampaging through Italy while smashing the Michelangelo statues, the Sistine Chapel ceiling, the Roman viaducts and coliseum, the Art Galleries, the famous buildings, etc etc? Are you quite sure you're playing apologist for the right people, John? I think its wonderful that some live in such a world they believe this will never come here...

Perhaps you could point out these people to us, cods.

I've been strolling through this forum for quite some time, and I've never seen anyone say that "this will never come here".

Perhaps you have a link that will prove me wrong   :-/

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 9:43am:

................. On this, Mr. Wilders remarked: “Returned Syria fighters are a huge threat. They are dangerous predators roaming our streets. It is absolutely unbelievable that our governments allow them to return. And it is incredible that, once returned, they are not imprisoned.............. ............“In the Netherlands, we have dozens of these returned jihadists. ........... ............ I demand that they be detained at once. Every government in the West, which refuses to do so, is a moral accessory if one of these monsters commits an atrocity. Every government in the West, which refuses to do so, is a moral accessory if one of these monsters commits an atrocity............

Thank you Bogarde

You're welcome Sprint.

aquascoot wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 6:51am:

Like i said, i sort of have an admiration for the islamic terrorists because they have a plan, they show commitment to the plan, they dont give up, ...(but yes , their plan is evil).

Murder, rape, and terrorism on a large scale is not a plan but rather a societal sickness. Your logic (such as it is) makes zero sense.


aquascoot wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 6:51am:

Its hard to have admiration for the likes of you.

I don't give one solid poo about your admiration. No one does.


aquascoot wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 6:51am:

Your life seems directionless, you are never at the 'cause' ,you are always at the "effect". you never think of anything original to say, you are only capable of commenting on other peoples original thought. You never build anything, you only seek to tear down.

Yes, nothing gives so much direction in life than spewing plagiarized Tony Robbins word salad with the grammar skills of a 4 year-old. Your posting reads like a dyslexic text book.


aquascoot wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 6:51am:

In a way , many of the looney left are like the islamic terrorists in their ambitions but just too lazy, cowardly and directionless to take action. maybe thats why you and greg identify with them. they are out there in the world taking the action you would like to if you both got off your lazy bums  ;)

Lazy? I work an average of 10 hours a day. What is it you do again? Oh right, molest horses. You're nothing more than a sad toolsack who blindly supports imperialist wars in the Middle East and the only political lessons you can draw are those from Tony Robbins.

Well ain't that a crying shame?
The people that work in the EU headquarters are now concerned for their safety because of these jihadi savages roaming free in their neighbourhood

I guess they are pretty safe in their bomb proof buildings but it's when they are out & about at their local pig troughs that it might be a bit dicey.

Well now they might understand how 300 million Europeans are feeling. Especially the young women going to and from work.

Nice.

Aqua got owned my Marla.

Now we'll have to put up with his reply, which will undoubtedly be full of bullshit about 'alpha males', 'group think', 'low consciousness', and other feel good, airy-fairy nonsense that he cuts & pastes from Tony Robbins books.

Let the boredom begin ...

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 10:29am:

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:43am:   ................. On this, Mr. Wilders remarked: “Returned Syria fighters are a huge threat. They are dangerous predators roaming our streets. It is absolutely unbelievable that our governments allow them to return. And it is incredible that, once returned, they are not imprisoned.............. ............“In the Netherlands, we have dozens of these returned jihadists. ........... ............ I demand that they be detained at once. Every government in the West, which refuses to do so, is a moral accessory if one of these monsters commits an atrocity. Thank you Bogarde

Agreed.

But some of us have been saying this very same thing for ages now - quite independently of Geert Wilders or any of the other luminaries.

John Smith wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 9:50am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:37am: John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:16am: bogarde73 wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:12am: We're not losing any sleep John. certainly sounds like it for some on here ... from morning till night, almost every post for some is about the muslims. "For as long as they keep making the news - we'll keep talking about them" When the growing number of Muslims in the West no longer poses a threat to our future generations - then so too will we fall silent on the issue. Aren't you a father, John? Can't see - or refuse to see - beyond your own nose on where all this Muslim immigration and drama is taking us? you go beyond talk, you obsess ... and what about the threat the west imposes on their future generations?

Start up some other topics and I'll come and make a contribution .

Wow! She's got her claws out for you, Aquascoot! She's come at you like a feral female protecting her cubs.

If you believe parallel lines of scar tissue on your face would spoil your looks, then it's probably best not to trifle with her feelings.

You might think of apologising to her, and then withdrawing, somewhat humbled, to the back paddock, Aquascoot.  8-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tuAkdlLhTE

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:50am: Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:37am: John Smith wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:16am: bogarde73 wrote on Mar 24th, 2016 at 9:12am: We're not losing any sleep John. certainly sounds like it for some on here ... from morning till night, almost every post for some is about the muslims. "For as long as they keep making the news - we'll keep talking about them" When the growing number of Muslims in the West no longer poses a threat to our future generations - then so too will we fall silent on the issue. Aren't you a father, John? Can't see - or refuse to see - beyond your own nose on where all this Muslim immigration and drama is taking us? you go beyond talk, you obsess ... and what about the threat the west imposes on their future generations? Start up some other topics and I'll come and make a contribution .

don't bother .. i know exactly how your contribution will go regardless of what the topic is  ... you'll start with the usual we don't want these immigrants (despite you yourself being an immigrant), you'll come up with some crap about we being at war with Muslims, then you'll tell us how anyone who doesn't agree that all muslims are evil must be a leftie bleeding heart !


Did I miss anything? I think I covered it all.

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:25pm:

Nice. Aqua got owned my Marla. Now we'll have to put up with his reply, which will undoubtedly be full of bullshit about 'alpha males', 'group think', 'low consciousness', and other feel good, airy-fairy nonsense that he cuts & pastes from Tony Robbins books. Let the boredom begin ...

;D ;D ;D ;D

For someone who is sick of this subject you seem toccome back quite a bit John.

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 3:37pm:

For someone who is sick of this subject you seem toccome back quite a bit John.

Who said they are sick of the subject?

Are Brussel's and Paris attacks done by tourists or terrorists?.

capitosinora wrote on Mar 25^th, 2016 at 9:43am:

Are Brussel's and Paris attacks done by tourists or terrorists?.

why? is there any dispute over who did them?

Aw, not you here again talking about MUSLIMS, John?

Sheesh. Some people.

How come in Syria, Kosovo and Chechnya they've been freedom fighters but in Brussel and Paris they are Terrorists???.

In Kosovo & Chechnya they were/are terrorists.
In Syria some are, some aren't.
It's all about your perspective isn't it.

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2016 at 11:28am:

In Kosovo & Chechnya they were/are terrorists. In Syria some are, some aren't. It's all about your perspective isn't it.

Yeh everything is relative.

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:25pm:

Nice. Aqua got owned my Marla. Now we'll have to put up with his reply, which will undoubtedly be full of bullshit about 'alpha males', 'group think', 'low consciousness', and other feel good, airy-fairy nonsense that he cuts & pastes from Tony Robbins books. Let the boredom begin ...

Greg, you appear unhappy.
Unhappiness is an ego created emotional condition.
It is like there is external pollution that wrecks the environement and there is internal pollution That wrecks the brain.

This comes in the form of the leftard emotions

anger
anxiety
hatred
resentment
discontent
envy
jealousy


These emotions which so many elftards such as yourself and marla feel are not recognised as self created emotional states.

they are seen as totally justified and caused by someone else.

Your ego is saying that other people are triggering your "reactive' state of mind and your pain.

You are being "effected" by others who are at the 'cause'

To always be at the effect is to be leading a low consciousness life where you are not penetrating into the world.

Furthermore, your negative mindset merely is used a fuel to build your ego and seek seperateness from others .

you need to burn this negativity in the fire of conscious awareness and liberate yourself.

35,000 posts dedicated to building your ego .

Its like you need this fuel (and enjoy this condemnation) because your mind is calling for help

"please tell me that i exist"
"please tell me that i am not insignificant."


Meditation could help  ;)

scoot , what have I told you about making people read that horsesh1t this early in the morning? Stop it before I have your wife geld you.

"What ever you do comes back to you".


Look At Your Home, Angel

Look at your home, angel,
and remove the spider web from your eyes
you will see soul-stirring sights
you will see the unfortunate and sick
you will see distress, death and misery
Look at your flock, angel,
only crippled and beggars
blind men wandering in a crowd
everybody’s spines broken
from you they expect salvation

Look at the rabble, angel,
their soul’s been cursed
they put reins on everyone
built shrines for themselves
their hands are bloody
Raise your sword, angel
remember the crusades
remember the jugulated
when you stand in front of God
may peace reign in your soul
Answer the prayers, angel
may the fiends drop dead, so help me God,
so be an angel of revenge
let them feel on their own skin
what poverty, fear and pain mean

capitosinora wrote on Mar 26^th, 2016 at 9:29am:

"What ever you do comes back to you". Look At Your Home, Angel Look at your home, angel, and remove the spider web from your eyes you will see soul-stirring sights you will see the unfortunate and sick you will see distress, death and misery Look at your flock, angel, only crippled and beggars blind men wandering in a crowd everybody’s spines broken from you they expect salvation Look at the rabble, angel, their soul’s been cursed they put reins on everyone built shrines for themselves their hands are bloody Raise your sword, angel remember the crusades remember the jugulated when you stand in front of God may peace reign in your soul Answer the prayers, angel may the fiends drop dead, so help me God, so be an angel of revenge let them feel on their own skin what poverty, fear and pain mean

interesting little verse.

poverty, fear, pain, death, distress, misery....these are blessings.
Conscious suffering is the best fuel to use to burn away the ego......but it MUST be conscious. ;)

John Smith wrote on Mar 26^th, 2016 at 9:24am:

scoot , what have I told you about making people read that horsesh1t this early in the morning? Stop it before I have your wife geld you.

now John, its easter....as i just said , reflect on conscious suffering and how it can take you to a higher realm of consciousness (reflect on Jesus perhaps).

This is why hard times, obstacles, failures, must be embraced and welcomed....the way of the superior man.

The cowardly men fleeing syria , fleeing their own country should "man up" and embrace the suffering, obstacles, pain and failure.
There should be no Jihad in europe, because the lefties in europe should administer "tough love" and tell them to stay there and learn some self respect and beat ISIS.

But the lefties dont think anyone should suffer (look at how they raise their children ).

the result is mediocre people with no sense of who they are because they have always been encouraged to run away from any problems. Run to mummy for help.

For all i know there is a "complaints thread" on this forum where cry babies can go with their cry baby narrative.

I better check .

It might be called "report members abuse here" and it probably has a lot of greg being a sook  ;)

John Smith wrote on Mar 26^th, 2016 at 9:24am:

scoot , what have I told you about making people read that horsesh1t this early in the morning?

It's insufferable, any time of the day.

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 26^th, 2016 at 10:00am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 9:24am: scoot , what have I told you about making people read that horsesh1t this early in the morning? It's insufferable, any time of the day.

 

ah greg, time for you to go meditate and try to reach a higher level of consciousness then seeking the
validation /condemnation of the wonderful contributing members of Ozpolitic

aquascoot wrote on Mar 26^th, 2016 at 9:59am:

reflect on conscious suffering

I was, that's why I asked you to stop it.

John Smith wrote on Mar 26^th, 2016 at 10:04am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 9:59am: reflect on conscious suffering I was, that's why I asked you to stop it.

the universe will always conspire to send you the lessons you need to learn at exactly the right time and place.

i was sent greg so as to learn patience and tolerance.

greg was sent me so as to learn "the way of the superior man"

“Just remember that self-discipline is not self-suppression. Suppression is when you resist and fight against your desires, keeping them as buried and unexpressed as possible. Self-discipline is when your highest desires rule your lesser desires, not through resistance, but through loving action grounded in understanding and compassion.”
― David Deida, The Way Of The Superior Man:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 26^th, 2016 at 10:09am:

the universe will always conspire to send you the lessons you need to learn at exactly the right time and place.

yes, but I can't deal with those if i have to read your horsesh1t .

And don't be so down on yourself, Greg isn't necessarily superior, just different.  ;D ;D ;D

I like this headline by Rafeem Hassam in Breitbart:

"Enough with the teddy bears & tears. It's time to take our civilisation back."

He's got it in a nutshell.

aquascoot wrote on Mar 26^th, 2016 at 10:09am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 10:04am: aquascoot wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 9:59am: reflect on conscious suffering I was, that's why I asked you to stop it. the universe will always conspire to send you the lessons you need to learn at exactly the right time and place. i was sent greg so as to learn patience and tolerance. greg was sent me so as to learn "the way of the superior man" “Just remember that self-discipline is not self-suppression. Suppression is when you resist and fight against your desires, keeping them as buried and unexpressed as possible. Self-discipline is when your highest desires rule your lesser desires, not through resistance, but through loving action grounded in understanding and compassion.” ― David Deida, The Way Of The Superior Man:

I am going to assume this is tongue in cheek. Otherwise, I am responding to another fruitcake who thinks the secrets of the universe have been revealed to him.

It looks Europeans are getting pathetic and boring.

I'm trying to find a good word but the best I can come up with is "feminised".
They have, as a general trend, become more feminised over the last few decades. And I can only put that down to an amalgam of ultra-liberal influences in school & university.

Some people may say this is a good thing, and in some respects it may be, but its drawbacks are exposed when your civilisation is under threat.
Effete just doesn't do it then.

The brain can switch positions based on environment, Europe had 50 years of peace and bliss, this lulled the inhabitants into a false belief that they were living in some sort of utopian paradise, now the more that they are bombed and murdered the more brains will switch from the leftist narrative of lets hug our enemies to the more right minded thinking of lefts annihilate these c$%ts.

This can be seen in the rise of more Right minded parties in Europe, the people will now call on the Right to protect them because the left cannot, the left are appeasers, they do not know how to fight and they are not even capable of fighting, the right are the warriors.

But once the dust settles and peace reigns again people will gravitate back to a peace time environment of left leaning governments once again.

A great example of this is Britain in world war two, firstly they tried appeasement with Chamberlain but once war became inevitable they quickly switched to a war time PM in Churchill, and as soon as the war was won the people immediately switched back again to a more socialist government.

 

issuevoter wrote on Mar 26^th, 2016 at 4:01pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 10:09am: John Smith wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 10:04am: aquascoot wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 9:59am: reflect on conscious suffering I was, that's why I asked you to stop it. the universe will always conspire to send you the lessons you need to learn at exactly the right time and place. i was sent greg so as to learn patience and tolerance. greg was sent me so as to learn "the way of the superior man" “Just remember that self-discipline is not self-suppression. Suppression is when you resist and fight against your desires, keeping them as buried and unexpressed as possible. Self-discipline is when your highest desires rule your lesser desires, not through resistance, but through loving action grounded in understanding and compassion.” ― David Deida, The Way Of The Superior Man: I am going to assume this is tongue in cheek. Otherwise, I am responding to another fruitcake who thinks the secrets of the universe have been revealed to him.

It does imply a benevolent, organisational force, rather than the cold brutal reality of evolutionary pressure.

The way I'd put it is that "life never stops testing you, and your weaknesses will be exposed". 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbINrdyAXlE&feature=youtu.be

So true but who do they have to blame but themselves?
Who & what have they voted for all these years?

(Classified)

European Emergency Plan in case of Terrorist Attack
=======================================
1. Shed some tears
2. Create a new flag watermark on Facebook
3. Cry at the television
4. Light up important monuments with the appropriate flag colours.
5. Arrest anybody and claim that you have caught the perpetrator.
6. Wait for the next attack
7. Start again at 1.

V good but you forgot "take selfie with the flowers"

TERROR THEATRE: The EU Babel, Brussels Attack Numerology & Media Fakery

March 26, 2016

http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/03/26/terror-theatre-the-eu-babel-brussels-attack-numerology-media-fakery/