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Message started by Redneck on Mar 21st, 2016 at 9:54am

Title: Its on
Post by Redneck on Mar 21st, 2016 at 9:54am

Malcolm Turnbull announces plans to bring budget forward and threatens double dissolution election
By political reporter Anna Henderson
Updated Mon Mar 21 10:49:18 EST 2016
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Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull will hold a special sitting of Parliament on union corruption in April, and call a double dissolution election if the legislation is not passed.

Mr Turnbull called a snap media conference in his parliamentary courtyard in Canberra this morning to make the announcement.

He will bring forward the federal budget by one week to May 3, to allow more time for the union corruption bills to be considered.

"The time has come for the Senate to recognise its responsibilities and help advance our economic plans, rather than standing in the way," he said.

"The restoration of the ABCC [Australian Building and Construction Commission] is a critical economic reform.

"The time for playing games is over."
Posted Mon Mar 21 10:47:14 EST 2016

Title: Re: Its on
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 21st, 2016 at 9:58am
The ABCC is desperately needed, as the RC into Union Corruption has found. Labor cannot keep its head in the sand on this.

Title: Re: Its on
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 21st, 2016 at 9:59am
Bring it on  :)

Title: Re: Its on
Post by Kat on Mar 21st, 2016 at 10:15am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 9:58am:
The ABCC is desperately needed, as the RC into Union Corruption has found. Labor cannot keep its head in the sand on this.


No.

It's not.

It never was.

Title: Re: Its on
Post by Bam on Mar 21st, 2016 at 10:20am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 9:58am:
The ABCC is desperately needed, as the RC into Union Corruption has found. Labor cannot keep its head in the sand on this.

No. A Federal version of ICAC is needed with a broad base, not the narrow focus on the building industry that the flawed ABCC would have.

A broad-based ICAC would have jurisdiction to address corruption in the building industry, but the ABCC would be completely blind to all other forms of corruption. That is why we need a Federal ICAC, not the ABCC.

And, as the Coalition corruption thread demonstrates, the Coalition are not inclined to address corruption more generally.

Title: Re: Its on
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 21st, 2016 at 10:41am

Its time wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 9:59am:
Bring it on  :)



Title: Re: Its on
Post by Karnal on Mar 21st, 2016 at 10:50am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 9:58am:
The ABCC is desperately needed, as the RC into Union Corruption has found. Labor cannot keep its head in the sand on this.


Ee-gad, how would the government get to replace the entire senate if that happened?

Title: Re: Its on
Post by John Smith on Mar 21st, 2016 at 10:54am
great ... about time. Get rid of this pretend government who's sole purpose seem to be union bashing and keeping seats warm.

Title: Re: Its on
Post by skippy. on Mar 21st, 2016 at 11:25am
Unfortunately ,for us, we will now have to endure three plus months of a campaign.
I suspect Turnbull is dropping faster than The women basher did in the polls so is running off while he still can.
Newspoll predict a Coaltion win with just 78 seats, and they have given Joyce  New England in that lot, not a very stable government by any means.
If News poll only think the coaltion can pull 78 seats the Coaltion are in big shiiit.
Given there are ALWAYS UPSETS, Shorten may just pull off the most unlikely  win in history.

Title: Re: Its on
Post by Greens_Win on Mar 21st, 2016 at 11:47am
With a hung parliament looking likely from a DD, which mob is willing to dance the tune of the Greens and/or parties like NXP, so to lock in their support of supply?

Who will get in bed with the Greens?

Title: Re: Its on
Post by skippy. on Mar 21st, 2016 at 11:51am

____ wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 11:47am:
With a hung parliament looking likely from a DD, which mob is willing to dance the tune of the Greens and/or parties like NXP, so to lock in their support of supply?

Who will get in bed with the Greens?

They will both suck up to the Greens. The Libs have already started.

Title: Re: Its on
Post by Bam on Mar 21st, 2016 at 11:54am

skippy. wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 11:25am:
Newspoll predict a Coaltion win with just 78 seats, and they have given Joyce  New England in that lot, not a very stable government by any means.

To be fair, Newspoll has also got Palmer winning Fairfax.

Title: Re: Its on
Post by Greens_Win on Mar 21st, 2016 at 11:56am
Lets hope Greens have an National ICAC, within the term, as the hoop to jump through to get Greens guaranteeing supply.

Lets see which old party is serious about cleaning up corruption.

Title: Re: Its on
Post by skippy. on Mar 21st, 2016 at 11:58am

Bam wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 11:54am:

skippy. wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 11:25am:
Newspoll predict a Coaltion win with just 78 seats, and they have given Joyce  New England in that lot, not a very stable government by any means.

To be fair, Newspoll has also got Palmer winning Fairfax.

If he doesn't jump ship to the senate maybe he can win it. Queenslanders  are fundamentally dumbf... , remember they elected Joe for years.

Title: Re: Its on
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 21st, 2016 at 12:03pm

Bam wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 10:20am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 9:58am:
The ABCC is desperately needed, as the RC into Union Corruption has found. Labor cannot keep its head in the sand on this.

No. A Federal version of ICAC is needed with a broad base, not the narrow focus on the building industry that the flawed ABCC would have.

A broad-based ICAC would have jurisdiction to address corruption in the building industry, but the ABCC would be completely blind to all other forms of corruption. That is why we need a Federal ICAC, not the ABCC.

And, as the Coalition corruption thread demonstrates, the Coalition are not inclined to address corruption more generally.


Lazarus and greens seem to be the only ones behind any attempt to clean up corruption across the board , the Libs want the ABCC to manage what exactly ?newsflash  Nothing is happening under their watch

Title: Re: Its on
Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Mar 21st, 2016 at 12:08pm

skippy. wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 11:25am:
Unfortunately ,for us, we will now have to endure three plus months of a campaign.
I suspect Turnbull is dropping faster than The women basher did in the polls so is running off while he still can.
Newspoll predict a Coaltion win with just 78 seats, and they have given Joyce  New England in that lot, not a very stable government by any means.
If News poll only think the coaltion can pull 78 seats the Coaltion are in big shiiit.
Given there are ALWAYS UPSETS, Shorten may just pull off the most unlikely  win in history.

Shorten is home and 10 million voters know copper Internet is the reason!

The global shame needs to end!

WE ARE GOING TO AN ELECTION ON COPPER INTERNET AND HOWARD IS GOING TO BE ASKED WHAT HE THINKS ABOUT IT  :D ;D :o ;) :) :)

Title: Re: Its on
Post by Bam on Mar 21st, 2016 at 12:22pm

____ wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 11:56am:
Lets hope Greens have an National ICAC, within the term, as the hoop to jump through to get Greens guaranteeing supply.

Lets see which old party is serious about cleaning up corruption.

[smiley=thumbup.gif] Good call - a Federal ICAC is a sound policy.

I don't expect it to be the Liberals though. The Coalition have a long list of people tainted by corruption in the past few years. It's so bad in the Liberal party that the former Federal Treasurer of the party (Higginson) wanted a forensic audit of the party's books, a request that was blocked by Abbott. Something to hide?

Title: Re: Its on
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 21st, 2016 at 12:41pm
Tried to post an interesting graphic showing a pictorial display of seats held by various parties on a map of Australia but it didn't work. Here's the link, I hope... https://cartocdn-ashbu.global.ssl.fastly.net/eltoncane/api/v1/map/028197465c9937a827ebbd4859257301:1458183820639/0/4/15/7.png

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