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Title: Obama & the illegals Post by bogarde73 on Mar 21st, 2016 at 8:32am
Breitbart 20/3/16:
Four Guatemala nationals who are in the U.S. illegally are accused of brutally gang-raping a woman and beating her boyfriend in Massachusetts. Federal Immigration officers are requesting so-called detainers on all four illegals. According to Customs Enforcement spokesman Shawn Neudauer, at least two of the suspects had been deported previously. Police report that brothers Elmer Diaz, 19, Arial Diaz, 24, and Adan Diaz, 32 and accomplice Marlon Josue Jarquin-Felipe, 27, were arrested and charged with the brutal attacks. They faces charges including rape, assault with a dangerous weapon, assault and battery, kidnapping, witness intimidation and other charges. Ariel Diaz has a record of violations such as drunk driving, driving without a license, and driving without insurance, disorderly conduct, and other charges. Additionally Jarquin-Felipe had been deported back to Guatemala as late as April of 2014. Since 2010, President Barack Obama has sharply reduced immigration enforcement, and has allowed more than 200,000 people from Central America to cross the border and to seek residency. The four were arrested after the attacks on a couple they were out for a walk in their neighborhood. According to the police report, as the four approached the couple, one of the illegals pulled out a condom and motioned toward the woman. She was then grabbed by the hood of her jacket and slammed to the ground while two others started beating the woman’s boyfriend. The woman was dragged into a nearby apartment where several began to sexually molest her. The woman’s boyfriend followed them, forced his way into the apartment and called 911. Police say he was then attacked again. At one point Ariel Diaz came at the man with a chef’s kitchen knife. The victim was able to wrest the knife away avoiding being stabbed in the process. Eventually the male victim was able to fight off the attackers and help free his girlfriend. The two exited the apartment building and flagged down police. Officers then arrested the four men finding some of the couples’ belongings in the apartment. “I thought we were going to die. I really did. And I didn’t care if I died as long as I could save her and get her out of there, that’s all I cared about,” the male victim told the Boston Herald. “I’ve lived here my whole life and I never imagined anything like this could happen just walking down the street,” he added. “The worst part was I felt like I couldn’t do anything.” The victim noted that his girlfriend is traumatized and has yet to come to terms with her assault. All four of the illegals have pleaded not guilty but are being held pending a determination on how dangerous they are to the community before being released. ICE officials say that they have no record of being alerted by local police after any of the suspects were arrested for past offenses. |
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by bogarde73 on Mar 21st, 2016 at 8:33am
What do these people have in common: Angela Merkel & Obama?
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by bogarde73 on Mar 21st, 2016 at 8:34am |
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by bogarde73 on Mar 21st, 2016 at 9:39am
The Washington Times - Saturday, March 19, 2016
The largest U.S. Border Patrol union local stopped just short of officially endorsing GOP candidate Donald Trump for president in a statement praising him for being the “only candidate” to support their mission. “Mr. Trump is the only candidate that has publicly expressed his support of our mission and our agents,” said a statement from Art Del Cueto, president of Local 2544 of the National Border Patrol Council, which represents 18,000 agents. “He has been an outspoken candidate on the need for a Secure Border and for this we are grateful,” the statement said, the Washington Examiner reported. Mr. Del Cueto said that Mr. Trump had sought the local’s endorsement, but the group has a practice of never endorsing any candidate. “The American public has continually called for a secure border and Donald Trump has promised to make this desire a reality. His campaign has expressed an interest in a Border Patrol’s Agent’s perspective and a tour of our border, that we will gladly provide,” he wrote. Mr. Del Cueto said agents do not seek to give tours but if asked they will be happy to provide a tour “that gives a realistic idea of what our Agents face on a daily basis.” “We are confident that the National Border Patrol Council’s longstanding message about the unsecured border and much needed support for our Agents will be received well by Mr. Trump. The American public deserves to be secure in their own country and we encourage all voters to consider that candidate that has the political will to make it happen,” Mr. Del Cueto concluded. |
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by Bojack Horseman on Mar 21st, 2016 at 9:45am
I suppose additionally the budget for his members would also increase?
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by bogarde73 on Mar 21st, 2016 at 10:58am
That sounds as if it is a necessary budget expense unless you want your country flooded with illegals.
Obama obviously doesn't care. |
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by Bojack Horseman on Mar 21st, 2016 at 1:14pm bogarde73 wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 10:58am:
So obviously a union guy would welcome any potential increase in budget to the members he represents. |
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by bogarde73 on Mar 21st, 2016 at 2:08pm
Are you saying there's something wrong with that?
These are the people who know exactly how the borders are being left open. Would you prefer they didn't say so and incidentally acknowledge someone who is also pointing it out? Are you in favour of open borders? |
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by Bojack Horseman on Mar 21st, 2016 at 2:12pm bogarde73 wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 2:08pm:
No I'm simply saying that there may be a bias behind his views that isn't strictly related to the need to protect the country. |
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by Bias_2012 on Mar 21st, 2016 at 2:33pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 2:12pm:
A reduction in illegals means a saving in funding Bojack .... got it now ? |
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by Bojack Horseman on Mar 21st, 2016 at 2:55pm Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 2:33pm:
Not overly since I'm talking about funding to the Border Patrol. |
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by Karnal on Mar 21st, 2016 at 3:11pm bogarde73 wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 8:32am:
In 6 years? Ee-gad, that's nothing. Bush Jnr gave amnesty to over a million - in his first term. |
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by bogarde73 on Mar 21st, 2016 at 3:56pm
Amnesty was probably for long term residents I'm thinking.
What we're looking at here is the problem that's developed more recemtly due to budget cuts as well as people smuggling. |
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by Karnal on Mar 21st, 2016 at 4:16pm bogarde73 wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 3:56pm:
Illegal immigrants, Bogie. It was Bush's campaign pledge in an effort to shore up the Latino vote. This vote got Bush Texas and Florida in 2000 - an election Bush won by one state. Obama has not been nearly so generous, but he's playing a different fiddle. The unions are not too happy with illegal immigrants, for obvious reasons. Illegal immigrants don't cost the government anything. They don't get Medicaid or food stamps, and they're highly popular with employers. |
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by mortdooley on Mar 21st, 2016 at 10:11pm Big Donger wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 4:16pm:
Oh, but they do. An estimated 49 percent of households headed by legal immigrants used one or more welfare programs in 2012, compared to 30 percent of households headed by natives. Households headed by legal immigrants have higher use rates than native households overall and for cash programs (14 percent vs. 10 percent), food programs (36 percent vs. 22 percent), and Medicaid (39 percent vs. 23 percent). Use of housing programs is similar. Legal immigrant households account for three-quarters of all immigrant households accessing one or more welfare programs. Less-educated legal immigrants make extensive use of every type of welfare program, including cash, food, Medicaid, and housing. The overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants have modest levels of education; therefore, the high use of welfare associated with less-educated legal immigrants indicates that legalization would likely increase welfare costs, particularly for cash and housing programs. Restrictions on new legal immigrants’ access to welfare have not prevented them from accessing programs at high rates because restrictions often apply to only a modest share of immigrants at any one time, some programs are not restricted, there are numerous exceptions and exemptions, and some provisions are entirely unenforced. Equally important, immigrants, including those illegally in the country, can receive welfare on behalf of their U.S.-born children. http://cis.org/Welfare-Use-Legal-Illegal-Immigrant-Households |
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by Karnal on Mar 21st, 2016 at 10:53pm
Do they?
Read your article again, Mort. |
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by mortdooley on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 12:42am
Where does it say illegal aliens cost the government nothing?
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by ian on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 12:58am Mortdooley wrote on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 12:42am:
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by mortdooley on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 3:05am
The money given to people on the Public Tit comes from our taxes or is borrowed and we get to pay both the principle and interest on the money or it is created out of thin air which deflates our currency. Where does public dole money come from in your country?
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by cods on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 5:43am
secure borders..
Mission Impossible.. |
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by Karnal on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 8:56am Mortdooley wrote on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 12:42am:
How do illegal immigrants access services, Mort? |
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by mortdooley on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 1:16pm
Just like everyone else, they apply.
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by Fireball on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 1:21pm
Like Obama's uninvited comments on The Barrier Reef, I understand he's visiting UK before the EU referendum and intends to butt-in there.
That nagga just wants stick his nose into anything which is non of Americas business. Piece of chit! |
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Title: Re: Obama & the illegals Post by Karnal on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 5:31pm Mortdooley wrote on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 1:16pm:
And how do they get past tricky questions about ID, Social.Security numbers, etc? |
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