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Message started by Armchair_Politician on Mar 17th, 2016 at 8:43am

Title: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 17th, 2016 at 8:43am
Asylum seekers in Indonesia waiting for ‘boat routes’ to reopen, government told

ASYLUM seekers stuck in Indonesia are waiting for people-smuggling “boat routes” to reopen so they can set out on the dangerous trip to Australia, the government has been told.

And the risk of death at sea is not a deterrent for many, a report for the Department of Immigration and Border Protection has revealed.

The report, handed to the government this month, confirmed border protection policy and fears of landing in Nauru or on Manus Island were deterring many asylum seekers from making the perilous boat journey.

However it also revealed some were waiting for government policy to change and people-smuggling to resume.

“For a large number of interviewees, learning of the detail of Australian government policy, including the sea route migration pathway being ‘closed’, the arrangements to transfer boat arrivals to regional processing centres, and immigration detention on Nauru and Manus Island, acted as deterrents,” the report said.

“Some respondents indicated they were waiting for the boat route to ‘open’ again.”

Researchers were sent to Indonesia to interview asylum seekers from Iran and Afghanistan about their experiences and plans.

One Afghan told researchers they expected the “path” to Australia would reopen.

“The people are too exhausted here, too tired here and if the way is opened, if we can go by boat, if it happens in the future, people will go, people will go, even if it costs their life,” the asylum seeker said.

But the perception all asylum seekers in Indonesia intended to make Australia their destination was challenged, with 40 per cent claiming no plans to go to Australia.

“Australia was not always a clear choice of destination,” the report said.

“The primary motivation was to flee to a place of safety.”

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/asylum-seekers-in-indonesia-waiting-for-boat-routes-to-reopen-government-told/news-story/81655a37893b0d3756a69bd3ada8bec3

Title: Re: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 17th, 2016 at 8:49am
Shorten has already stated his position on the boats , you will have to find another straw to clutch at dopey  :D

Title: Re: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by John Smith on Mar 17th, 2016 at 8:56am
yeah ... i'm sure smugglers are lining up to tell the libs their plans  :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:01am
Smell the fear

Title: Re: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by Karnal on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:03am
This is terrible news. If we vote Labor, a thousand refugees or so will come to Australia without a visa by boat - instead of flying in as they do now.

No, the next erection will be a referendum on stopping the boats. Thanks, Mr Abbott, for a job well done.

Title: Re: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:08am
[quote author=Karnal link=1458168224/4#4 date=1458169413]This is terrible news. If we vote Labor, a thousand refugees or so will come to Australia without a visa by boat - instead of flying in as they do now.

;)

We will decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come .... unless its by plane.

Title: Re: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by davo on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:08am
" the primary motivation is to flee to a place of safety'' yet you Armchair would have us believe they are "country shoppers'' what do you think Armchair?

Title: Re: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:10am

Its time wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 8:49am:
Shorten has already stated his position on the boats , you will have to find another straw to clutch at dopey  :D


Rudd said he would stop the boats. So did Gillard. We're still getting rid of the 50,000 they had come on their watch, so you'll excuse us if we don't take seriously anything Labor says on this issue.

Title: Re: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:11am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:10am:

Its time wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 8:49am:
Shorten has already stated his position on the boats , you will have to find another straw to clutch at dopey  :D


Rudd said he would stop the boats. So did Gillard. We're still getting rid of the 50,000 they had come on their watch, so you'll excuse us if we don't take seriously anything Labor says on this issue.


He did stop them, its his policy  :D

Title: Re: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:13am

oh dear wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:08am:
" the primary motivation is to flee to a place of safety'' yet you Armchair would have us believe they are "country shoppers'' what do you think Armchair?


You expect them to say something like, "Oh, we want to come to Australia to live off Centrelink forever because Australians are mugs!"?

Title: Re: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:15am

Its time wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:11am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:10am:

Its time wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 8:49am:
Shorten has already stated his position on the boats , you will have to find another straw to clutch at dopey  :D


Rudd said he would stop the boats. So did Gillard. We're still getting rid of the 50,000 they had come on their watch, so you'll excuse us if we don't take seriously anything Labor says on this issue.


He did stop them, its his policy  :D


Buzzzzzzzzzzz. Wrong! Morrison stopped them within three months of taking over. Labor was in office for six years and the boats only stopped AFTER they left office. Labor let in 50,000 people on over 750 boats. They did not stop the boats, the Coalition did. That's a fact, the undeniable truth just as the sun rises in the East and sets in the West.

Title: Re: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by davo on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:16am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:13am:

oh dear wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:08am:
" the primary motivation is to flee to a place of safety'' yet you Armchair would have us believe they are "country shoppers'' what do you think Armchair?


You expect them to say something like, "Oh, we want to come to Australia to live off Centrelink forever because Australians are mugs!"?

So the article is a lie?

Title: Re: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by John Smith on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:16am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:13am:

oh dear wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:08am:
" the primary motivation is to flee to a place of safety'' yet you Armchair would have us believe they are "country shoppers'' what do you think Armchair?


You expect them to say something like, "Oh, we want to come to Australia to live off Centrelink forever because Australians are mugs!"?


yes but your an idiot so your expectations are very different from everyone else's.

Title: Re: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:20am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:15am:

Its time wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:11am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:10am:

Its time wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 8:49am:
Shorten has already stated his position on the boats , you will have to find another straw to clutch at dopey  :D


Rudd said he would stop the boats. So did Gillard. We're still getting rid of the 50,000 they had come on their watch, so you'll excuse us if we don't take seriously anything Labor says on this issue.


He did stop them, its his policy  :D


Buzzzzzzzzzzz. Wrong! Morrison stopped them within three months of taking over. Labor was in office for six years and the boats only stopped AFTER they left office. Labor let in 50,000 people on over 750 boats. They did not stop the boats, the Coalition did. That's a fact, the undeniable truth just as the sun rises in the East and sets in the West.


Nope was definitely Rudds policy that stopped the boats , the Libs would like at least one successful notch on the belt to justify three years of failures , sadly the belt remains , notch free  :'(

Title: Re: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:36am

Its time wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:20am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:15am:

Its time wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:11am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:10am:

Its time wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 8:49am:
Shorten has already stated his position on the boats , you will have to find another straw to clutch at dopey  :D


Rudd said he would stop the boats. So did Gillard. We're still getting rid of the 50,000 they had come on their watch, so you'll excuse us if we don't take seriously anything Labor says on this issue.


He did stop them, its his policy  :D


Buzzzzzzzzzzz. Wrong! Morrison stopped them within three months of taking over. Labor was in office for six years and the boats only stopped AFTER they left office. Labor let in 50,000 people on over 750 boats. They did not stop the boats, the Coalition did. That's a fact, the undeniable truth just as the sun rises in the East and sets in the West.


Nope was definitely Rudds policy that stopped the boats , the Libs would like at least one successful notch on the belt to justify three years of failures , sadly the belt remains , notch free  :'(



Title: Re: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:47am
Careful Armpit that could get you a holiday  :-?

Title: Re: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 17th, 2016 at 10:03am

Its time wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:47am:
Careful Armpit that could get you a holiday  :-?


Judge Judy said it, not me.

Title: Re: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by Karnal on Mar 17th, 2016 at 11:09am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:10am:

Its time wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 8:49am:
Shorten has already stated his position on the boats , you will have to find another straw to clutch at dopey  :D


Rudd said he would stop the boats. So did Gillard. We're still getting rid of the 50,000 they had come on their watch, so you'll excuse us if we don't take seriously anything Labor says on this issue.


Exactly. And we're still importing the 12,000 Mr Abbott brought in from Syria.

STOP THE BOATS.

Title: Re: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by lee on Mar 17th, 2016 at 2:27pm

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 11:09am:
Exactly. And we're still importing the 12,000 Mr Abbott brought in from Syria.



From the non-existent queue. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 17th, 2016 at 3:32pm

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 11:09am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:10am:

Its time wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 8:49am:
Shorten has already stated his position on the boats , you will have to find another straw to clutch at dopey  :D


Rudd said he would stop the boats. So did Gillard. We're still getting rid of the 50,000 they had come on their watch, so you'll excuse us if we don't take seriously anything Labor says on this issue.


Exactly. And we're still importing the 12,000 Mr Abbott brought in from Syria.

STOP THE BOATS.


They're genuine refugees who will be part of an orderly migration program. The 50,000 that Labor welcomed with their incompetence were not part of an orderly program.

Title: Re: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by Karnal on Mar 17th, 2016 at 3:38pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 3:32pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 11:09am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:10am:

Its time wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 8:49am:
Shorten has already stated his position on the boats , you will have to find another straw to clutch at dopey  :D


Rudd said he would stop the boats. So did Gillard. We're still getting rid of the 50,000 they had come on their watch, so you'll excuse us if we don't take seriously anything Labor says on this issue.


Exactly. And we're still importing the 12,000 Mr Abbott brought in from Syria.

STOP THE BOATS.


They're genuine refugees who will be part of an orderly migration program. The 50,000 that Labor welcomed with their incompetence were not part of an orderly program.


Oh, somehow I think you'll need a better reason than that to scare people off voting Labor, Armchair.

There are plenty of good reasons. Why bother with this?

Title: Re: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by Aussie on Mar 17th, 2016 at 3:42pm

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 11:09am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:10am:

Its time wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 8:49am:
Shorten has already stated his position on the boats , you will have to find another straw to clutch at dopey  :D


Rudd said he would stop the boats. So did Gillard. We're still getting rid of the 50,000 they had come on their watch, so you'll excuse us if we don't take seriously anything Labor says on this issue.


Exactly. And we're still importing the 12,000 Mr Abbott brought in from Syria.

STOP THE BOATS.


Even though the decision to take 12000 was taken in November, 2015, so far, only 29 have arrived.  Disgraceful.

Title: Re: Change of govt will restart boats
Post by Karnal on Mar 17th, 2016 at 3:47pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 3:42pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 11:09am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 9:10am:

Its time wrote on Mar 17th, 2016 at 8:49am:
Shorten has already stated his position on the boats , you will have to find another straw to clutch at dopey  :D


Rudd said he would stop the boats. So did Gillard. We're still getting rid of the 50,000 they had come on their watch, so you'll excuse us if we don't take seriously anything Labor says on this issue.


Exactly. And we're still importing the 12,000 Mr Abbott brought in from Syria.

STOP THE BOATS.


Even though the decision to take 12000 was taken in November, 2015, so far, only 29 have arrived.  Disgraceful.


Under-promise and over-deliver, that's Mr Abbott's motto. As Armchair said, it's an orderly process.

Look at Canada - chaos. They've already taken in over ten thousand.

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