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Title: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 9th, 2016 at 8:07am
The head of the Department of Immigration and Border Protection (DIPB) has launched a spirited defence of Australia’s immigration detention centres, publicly disputing claims they are “gulags” and “places of torture”.
DIPB Secretary Michael Pezzullo took the unusual step on Tuesday of going public with his grievances following a recent claim by a prominent psychiatrist that the centres recalled the gulags of Nazi Germany. Mr Pezzullo wrote that he was “highly offended” by “falsehood, rumour and unfounded speculation” about his staff and the facilities by critics of immigration detention in the public and the media. He also claimed the DIPB and its critics shared the same goals – “to have no children at all in immigration detention”. “Recent comparisons of immigration detention centres to ‘gulags’; suggestions that detention involves a ‘public numbing and indifference’ similar to that allegedly experienced in Nazi Germany; and persistent suggestions that detention facilities are places of ‘torture’ are highly offensive, unwarranted and plainly wrong – and yet they continue to be made in some quarters,” Mr Pezzullo said. The rare public statement by the head of a government department said the DIPB and its uniformed operational arm, the Australian Border Force, “does not operate beyond the law” and isn’t an “immoral ‘rogue agency'”. Under the Abbott and Turnbull governments, the DIPB and Border Force have been pilloried by refugee advocates and sections of the press. Flash points have included allegations of rape from asylum seekers detained on Nauru, a Brisbane hospital’s refusal to hand over a baby to the department out of fear it would be returned to detention and riots at the Manus Island and Nauru detention centres. These incidents prompted high-profile public protests, and a huge ‘#LetThemStay’ social media campaign. One of the most inflammatory criticisms of Australia’s detention policy came from a psychiatrist, who wrote in Australasian Psychiatry journal that prolonged detention evoked reminders of Nazi Germany and Soviet Union “gulags”. Mr Pezzullo rubbished such claims and explained that Australia’s offshore and local detention centres were always “underpinned by the law of the land”. “Any contention that prolonged immigration detention represents ‘reckless indifference and calculated cruelty’, in order to deter future boat arrivals, do not pass even the most basic fact check,” he said. “The number of children in detention would not be falling if that were the case. “The resources devoted to providing medical and support services, and the commitment of doctors, service providers and departmental staff to the welfare of those individuals, undercuts emotive and inflammatory claims to the contrary.” The DIPB Secretary listed the improvements and commitments made to the medical care given in detention centres. “The Department provides access to mental health nurses, counsellors, psychologists and psychiatrists to individuals transferred to Australia for medical care,” Mr Pezzullo said. “The Nauru and Manus Regional Processing Centres both have mental health care staff onsite, including mental health nurses, counsellors, torture and trauma counsellors, psychologists and a psychiatrist. There are also additional mental health care staff based at the Nauru Settlement clinic.” http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2016/03/08/immigration-boss-offended-portrayal-department/?utm_source=SilverpopMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20160309%20The%20New%20Daily%20(2)&utm_content=&spMailingID=24917863&spUserID=MTA5NTgzNjg2NTYwS0&spJobID=761324704&spReportId=NzYxMzI0NzA0S0 |
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 9th, 2016 at 8:10am
If rapes occur in a detention centre, it just proves two things. Firstly, it proves that the government is right to detain these people for the protection of Australian citizens (which is the governments' primary job) and secondly, it proves that those who are committing these crimes are definitely not the sort of people we want in this country.
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:07am
“. . .allegedly occurred in nazi germany” numbing down feelings about the constant abuses that occur in these concentration camps, like “allegedly” occurred in nazi Germany!
Hey, these are holiday camps! There will always be some unthinking useful id iots like ArmPit around who will spread this propaganda, this dumbing/numbing down of feeling! ArmPit NEVER thinks for himself and gets all his opinions direct from that rag, the Daily Toilet! This govt makes me ashamed to be an Australian! |
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by FRED. on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:11am Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:07am:
Stiff go bury your head in the sand.. ;) ;) ;) And have another drink! |
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by John Dago on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:14am FRED. wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:11am:
That will be his 8th for the day already. |
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:16am
Doesn’t take long for rightards to be reduced to abuse, is it?
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by John Dago on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:19am Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:16am:
About the same as it takes a leftard to play the victim card and turn on the tears. |
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:20am Jennifer wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:19am:
... and lies. |
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:22am
What lies, Armpit? All you have done is repeat lies from the Daily Toilet
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by FRED. on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:22am Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:16am:
OOHH my FKGOD read all the threads before you make rash comments >:( >:( >:( |
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by The Heartless Felon on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:22am Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:16am:
The abuse began in reply #2... |
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by Leftwinger on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:23am |
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:27am The Heartless Felon wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:22am:
That was just describing what is what. ArmPit cannot think for himself and all his opinions do come from the Daily Toilet and are shot down quickly. So ArmPit, what lies? |
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by John Dago on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:29am The Heartless Felon wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:22am:
Correct. |
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:32am
So ArmPit can’t point to any lies. Noted.
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:38am Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:32am:
It's a gulag, a concentration camp, people are tortured there. The guards are armed. All lies from the increasingly desperate and devoid of reality left wing nut brigade. |
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:41am
So, no lies you can point to, noted.
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:45am Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:41am:
See above. |
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:51am
A place of indefinite detention, sadistic guards, daily humiliation of detainees, all costing $Bns.
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by ian on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:53am Its time wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:23am: Pezullo is far for a Liberal mouthpiece Quote:
hes just stating fact. all the emotional wrist wringing and over hysterical shrieking about this issue wont change the facts. |
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by ian on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:54am Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:51am:
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:56am ian wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:53am:
I wasn't going to say anything to leftwingnutjob about Pezzullo not being a Liberal mouthpiece. In fact, I think it's the first time he's spoken publicly like this. |
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:57am ian wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:54am:
The sad thing is that Jovial is proud of his/her stupidity. |
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 9th, 2016 at 11:02am
The information that comes out of those camps shows the camps are places of indefinite detention, gulags of humilitation, people going out of their minds with the fact they are stuck in a camp, can’t work, don’t know when/if they will be released etc etc.
Some may want to turn their backs on this and pretend it isn’t happening but I do not care about those moral cowards. |
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by Armchair_Politician on Mar 9th, 2016 at 11:05am Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 11:02am:
No one is forcing them to stay there. They can go back home any time they wish. As for your insistence on wrongly calling them gulags, look up the definition of a gulag. They were primarily forced labour camps. None of the detainees in Australian detention centres are forced to do any manual labour. Please cease to call detention centres gulags because you're just making a total asshat out of yourself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag |
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 9th, 2016 at 11:17am
Poor old Armpit, can’t face the reality of what his beloved Neoconservative party is doing so quibbles about definitions. Moral coward!
The gulags should be closed! |
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by ian on Mar 9th, 2016 at 11:17am Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 11:02am:
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 9th, 2016 at 11:18am ian wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 11:17am:
The facts are pretty clear. The rest is just moral cowardice. |
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by ian on Mar 9th, 2016 at 11:19am Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 11:18am:
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Title: Re: Immigration boss defends detention centres Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 9th, 2016 at 11:23am Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:57am:
The detention centres are effective. What other options are there ? Let the illegals run riot in our society, raping at will ? |
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