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Message started by matty on Mar 7th, 2016 at 11:43pm

Title: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by matty on Mar 7th, 2016 at 11:43pm
Why did everyone criticise Howard Sattler for spreading rumours about Gillard's partner being a fag, but not everyone loves it when rumours are spread about Abbott committing infidelity? Where is the criticising and sacking of Niki Savva?

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by The Grappler on Mar 7th, 2016 at 11:49pm
Gillard?   Who The Shaitan is Gillard other than some burned out political flunky elevated way beyond her abilities so Labor could make a point about women being 'equal', and now forced to eke out a living by living on an inflated pension while pontificating to all the silly little Uni girls about how women can be so great.....?

Who The Shaitan is Abbott?  **rummages through ancient, dusty files**... oh, yes... some deposed.. what was that word.. "Prime Minister"... from the Ancient Days.. those heady days of Liberal assumption that all would fall their way......

Thank God for the Good People Of The Senate! And Thank God for the Likes of Billy J Jack who showed us all so clearly the way ahead!

(who the shaitan is billy j jack?)....

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by sir prince duke alevine on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:19am

matty wrote on Mar 7th, 2016 at 11:43pm:
Why did everyone criticise Howard Sattler for spreading rumours about Gillard's partner being a fag, but not everyone loves it when rumours are spread about Abbott committing infidelity? Where is the criticising and sacking of Niki Savva?

I'm more appalled by Peta Credlin's choice in man.  She can do 1000000x better than the 1d1ot.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by The Grappler on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:22am
Peta's eyes showed it.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9C53IEcg_0

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by matty on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:26am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:19am:

matty wrote on Mar 7th, 2016 at 11:43pm:
Why did everyone criticise Howard Sattler for spreading rumours about Gillard's partner being a fag, but not everyone loves it when rumours are spread about Abbott committing infidelity? Where is the criticising and sacking of Niki Savva?

I'm more appalled by Peta Credlin's choice in man.  She can do 1000000x better than the 1d1ot.


What do you have against Loughnane?

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Karnal on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:38am

matty wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:26am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:19am:

matty wrote on Mar 7th, 2016 at 11:43pm:
Why did everyone criticise Howard Sattler for spreading rumours about Gillard's partner being a fag, but not everyone loves it when rumours are spread about Abbott committing infidelity? Where is the criticising and sacking of Niki Savva?

I'm more appalled by Peta Credlin's choice in man.  She can do 1000000x better than the 1d1ot.


What do you have against Loughnane?


He means Mr Abbott, Matty. Ignore these leftards. They really are apalling.

The question on everyone’s lips is why is your Prime Minister still dressed as Hitler?

Thoughts?

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by sir prince duke alevine on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:44am

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:38am:

matty wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:26am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:19am:

matty wrote on Mar 7th, 2016 at 11:43pm:
Why did everyone criticise Howard Sattler for spreading rumours about Gillard's partner being a fag, but not everyone loves it when rumours are spread about Abbott committing infidelity? Where is the criticising and sacking of Niki Savva?

I'm more appalled by Peta Credlin's choice in man.  She can do 1000000x better than the 1d1ot.


What do you have against Loughnane?


He means Mr Abbott, Matty. Ignore these leftards. They really are apalling.

The question on everyone’s lips is why is your Prime Minister still dressed as Hitler?

Thoughts?


If only matty was PM, Karnal. Now there's a man who's ideal for Peta!

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by The Grappler on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:49am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:44am:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:38am:

matty wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:26am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:19am:

matty wrote on Mar 7th, 2016 at 11:43pm:
Why did everyone criticise Howard Sattler for spreading rumours about Gillard's partner being a fag, but not everyone loves it when rumours are spread about Abbott committing infidelity? Where is the criticising and sacking of Niki Savva?

I'm more appalled by Peta Credlin's choice in man.  She can do 1000000x better than the 1d1ot.


What do you have against Loughnane?


He means Mr Abbott, Matty. Ignore these leftards. They really are apalling.

The question on everyone’s lips is why is your Prime Minister still dressed as Hitler?

Thoughts?


If only matty was PM, Karnal. Now there's a man who's ideal for Peta!


She stands in great need of a psychistrist..... but any quack who wants to be a psychiatrist without a medical degree is welcome to.... fill the spot.....

Actually - what does it matter if Peta and Tony got it off?  How did that affect the running of the country?

Oh.. sorry.. that was 'ruining' of the country..... **slinks away with tail between legs**

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by sir prince duke alevine on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:56am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:49am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:44am:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:38am:

matty wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:26am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:19am:

matty wrote on Mar 7th, 2016 at 11:43pm:
Why did everyone criticise Howard Sattler for spreading rumours about Gillard's partner being a fag, but not everyone loves it when rumours are spread about Abbott committing infidelity? Where is the criticising and sacking of Niki Savva?

I'm more appalled by Peta Credlin's choice in man.  She can do 1000000x better than the 1d1ot.


What do you have against Loughnane?


He means Mr Abbott, Matty. Ignore these leftards. They really are apalling.

The question on everyone’s lips is why is your Prime Minister still dressed as Hitler?

Thoughts?


If only matty was PM, Karnal. Now there's a man who's ideal for Peta!


She stands in great need of a psychistrist..... but any quack who wants to be a psychiatrist without a medical degree is welcome to.... fill the spot.....

Actually - what does it matter if Peta and Tony got it off?  How did that affect the running of the country?

Oh.. sorry.. that was 'ruining' of the country..... **slinks away with tail between legs**

I have absolutely no problem with people screwing around - whatever, it shouldn't impact someone's ability to govern.  Except when the screwing around involves a boss and their staff... 

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Karnal on Mar 8th, 2016 at 1:58am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:44am:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:38am:

matty wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:26am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:19am:

matty wrote on Mar 7th, 2016 at 11:43pm:
Why did everyone criticise Howard Sattler for spreading rumours about Gillard's partner being a fag, but not everyone loves it when rumours are spread about Abbott committing infidelity? Where is the criticising and sacking of Niki Savva?

I'm more appalled by Peta Credlin's choice in man.  She can do 1000000x better than the 1d1ot.


What do you have against Loughnane?


He means Mr Abbott, Matty. Ignore these leftards. They really are apalling.

The question on everyone’s lips is why is your Prime Minister still dressed as Hitler?

Thoughts?


If only matty was PM, Karnal. Now there's a man who's ideal for Peta!


No. Matty would have had the lovely Sophie, but it wasn’t to be.

She went in for submarines, while Matty went off to Rhode Island.

But yes, Matty could have been.a contender.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by sir prince duke alevine on Mar 8th, 2016 at 2:26am

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 1:58am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:44am:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:38am:

matty wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:26am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:19am:

matty wrote on Mar 7th, 2016 at 11:43pm:
Why did everyone criticise Howard Sattler for spreading rumours about Gillard's partner being a fag, but not everyone loves it when rumours are spread about Abbott committing infidelity? Where is the criticising and sacking of Niki Savva?

I'm more appalled by Peta Credlin's choice in man.  She can do 1000000x better than the 1d1ot.


What do you have against Loughnane?


He means Mr Abbott, Matty. Ignore these leftards. They really are apalling.

The question on everyone’s lips is why is your Prime Minister still dressed as Hitler?

Thoughts?


If only matty was PM, Karnal. Now there's a man who's ideal for Peta!


No. Matty would have had the lovely Sophie, but it wasn’t to be.

She went in for submarines, while Matty went off to Rhode Island.

But yes, Matty could have been.a contender.

Matty and Peta - now there's a match made in heaven!

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Karnal on Mar 8th, 2016 at 2:54am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 2:26am:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 1:58am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:44am:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:38am:

matty wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:26am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:19am:

matty wrote on Mar 7th, 2016 at 11:43pm:
Why did everyone criticise Howard Sattler for spreading rumours about Gillard's partner being a fag, but not everyone loves it when rumours are spread about Abbott committing infidelity? Where is the criticising and sacking of Niki Savva?

I'm more appalled by Peta Credlin's choice in man.  She can do 1000000x better than the 1d1ot.


What do you have against Loughnane?


He means Mr Abbott, Matty. Ignore these leftards. They really are apalling.

The question on everyone’s lips is why is your Prime Minister still dressed as Hitler?

Thoughts?


If only matty was PM, Karnal. Now there's a man who's ideal for Peta!


No. Matty would have had the lovely Sophie, but it wasn’t to be.

She went in for submarines, while Matty went off to Rhode Island.

But yes, Matty could have been.a contender.

Matty and Peta - now there's a match made in heaven!


How dare you. Matty would never do.such a thing. Ms Credlin is married to Brian.

Matty does not do.slops, thank you very much. He’s saving himself for Miss Right.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by sir prince duke alevine on Mar 8th, 2016 at 3:25am

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 2:54am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 2:26am:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 1:58am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:44am:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:38am:

matty wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:26am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:19am:

matty wrote on Mar 7th, 2016 at 11:43pm:
Why did everyone criticise Howard Sattler for spreading rumours about Gillard's partner being a fag, but not everyone loves it when rumours are spread about Abbott committing infidelity? Where is the criticising and sacking of Niki Savva?

I'm more appalled by Peta Credlin's choice in man.  She can do 1000000x better than the 1d1ot.


What do you have against Loughnane?


He means Mr Abbott, Matty. Ignore these leftards. They really are apalling.

The question on everyone’s lips is why is your Prime Minister still dressed as Hitler?

Thoughts?


If only matty was PM, Karnal. Now there's a man who's ideal for Peta!


No. Matty would have had the lovely Sophie, but it wasn’t to be.

She went in for submarines, while Matty went off to Rhode Island.

But yes, Matty could have been.a contender.

Matty and Peta - now there's a match made in heaven!


How dare you. Matty would never do.such a thing. Ms Credlin is married to Brian.

Matty does not do.slops, thank you very much. He’s saving himself for Miss Right.

Maybe matty belongs to the English church and it's okay?

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 8th, 2016 at 6:37am
Wonder if the basher is sleeping on couch at home

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by LEUT Bigvicfella (RTD) on Mar 8th, 2016 at 8:44am
Ya gotta love the Roids on here.  Gillard was attacked mercilessly on here by the hard nosed rightards.    Sleeping with a married man, her work with a pro labor law firm, the renovations to her house, the sale of her house, her voice, her partner, the whole gammut.

And you come on here whinging and whining because, according to a journalist, Abbot has been bashing Credlin's back out in the sack.  Just admit he was australia's worse ever PM, the rumours are probably true, let poor old Margie live in peace and try and save the marriage and move on.

At this stage, Abbott is not doing himself any favours by not defending himself against possible slander/libel and bringing in the lawyers. 

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Dsmithy70 on Mar 8th, 2016 at 8:52am
Oh it's the "poor me" thread

The most telling quote in the whole saga so far


Quote:
During the Rudd-Gillard years, Savva recalls: "I was the darling of the conservatives; they all thought I was wonderful because I was getting stuck into the Labor Party.

"Abbott would text reasonably frequently to say, 'Good column, very shrewd observations'."

But as her columns in The Australian became increasingly critical, she says she transformed into the "she-devil" of the Abbott government.


http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/niki-savva-how-journalist-went-from-conservative-darling-to-abbott-she-devil-20160307-gnc6vl.html#ixzz42GClPF1r

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Honky on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:06am
So it seems TPTB are not yet finished with Abbott. 

Who is behind this seemingly pointless character assassaination? Is it Turdbal l seeking to remove the threat, or is it punishment for something he did in his time as PM?

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Leftwinger on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:09am

... wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:06am:
So it seems TPTB are not yet finished with Abbott. 

Who is behind this seemingly pointless character assassaination? Is it Turdbal l seeking to remove the threat, or is it punishment for something he did in his time as PM?


The Libtards want him gone

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by skippy. on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:11am

matty wrote on Mar 7th, 2016 at 11:43pm:
Why did everyone criticise Howard Sattler for spreading rumours about Gillard's partner being a fag, but not everyone loves it when rumours are spread about Abbott committing infidelity? Where is the criticising and sacking of Niki Savva?

You've just done it Nikki must be weeping.
You spread rumours about Gillard when she was PM, suck it up princess it's the women bashers turn to face the same treatment. Only this time it's his own party divulging what really went on behind the scenes, but you don't seem bright enough to grasp that.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by skippy. on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:12am

Its time wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 6:37am:
Wonder if the basher is sleeping on couch at home

LOL ;D

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Mr Hammer on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:15am
I find it amazing how much leftards hate Abbott. It's weird. Get to know somebody before you start hating them.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by skippy. on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:17am

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:15am:
I find it amazing how much leftards hate Abbott. It's weird. Get to know somebody before you start hating them.

Savva is a rightard. ::)

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Bojack Horseman on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:17am

matty wrote on Mar 7th, 2016 at 11:43pm:
Why did everyone criticise Howard Sattler for spreading rumours about Gillard's partner being a fag, but not everyone loves it when rumours are spread about Abbott committing infidelity? Where is the criticising and sacking of Niki Savva?


Why did you not criticise Sattler at the time, when you're criticising Savva now?

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by John Smith on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:19am

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:15am:
I find it amazing how much leftards hate Abbott. It's weird. Get to know somebody before you start hating them.


the guy is a d1ckhead. He spent all his time trying to accumulate 'dirt files' on opponents or spreading rumors of criminal or corrupt activity about them, to further advance his own career. Someone like that should not be in politics and should never have been allowed to lead the country.

He deserves everything he gets

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Mr Hammer on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:23am

John Smith wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:19am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:15am:
I find it amazing how much leftards hate Abbott. It's weird. Get to know somebody before you start hating them.


the guy is a d1ckhead. He spent all his time trying to accumulate 'dirt files' on opponents or spreading rumors of criminal or corrupt activity about them, to further advance his own career. Someone like that should not be in politics and should never have been allowed to lead the country.

He deserves everything he gets
Couldn't be any worse than Chris Bowen and those bunch of other Labor idiots who opened our borders and killed over a 1,000 people while blowing the budget out.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by bwood1946 on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:23am

skippy. wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:17am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:15am:
I find it amazing how much leftards hate Abbott. It's weird. Get to know somebody before you start hating them.

Savva is a rightard. ::)



FOR #$## sake grow up children!  Oh but you said this,,no I didn't you said it,no you did, Im going to tell sir,,,I dare you   FOCKWITS   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by John Smith on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:31am

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:23am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:19am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:15am:
I find it amazing how much leftards hate Abbott. It's weird. Get to know somebody before you start hating them.


the guy is a d1ckhead. He spent all his time trying to accumulate 'dirt files' on opponents or spreading rumors of criminal or corrupt activity about them, to further advance his own career. Someone like that should not be in politics and should never have been allowed to lead the country.

He deserves everything he gets
Couldn't be any worse than Chris Bowen and those bunch of other Labor idiots who opened our borders and killed over a 1,000 people while blowing the budget out.


try not to prove your stupidity with every post.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Mr Hammer on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:43am

John Smith wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:31am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:23am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:19am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:15am:
I find it amazing how much leftards hate Abbott. It's weird. Get to know somebody before you start hating them.


the guy is a d1ckhead. He spent all his time trying to accumulate 'dirt files' on opponents or spreading rumors of criminal or corrupt activity about them, to further advance his own career. Someone like that should not be in politics and should never have been allowed to lead the country.

He deserves everything he gets
Couldn't be any worse than Chris Bowen and those bunch of other Labor idiots who opened our borders and killed over a 1,000 people while blowing the budget out.


try not to prove your stupidity with every post.
So you hate Abbot but you beloved party caused the death of over 1,000 people and no criticism??? :-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by LEUT Bigvicfella (RTD) on Mar 8th, 2016 at 10:31am

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:43am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:31am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:23am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:19am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:15am:
I find it amazing how much leftards hate Abbott. It's weird. Get to know somebody before you start hating them.


the guy is a d1ckhead. He spent all his time trying to accumulate 'dirt files' on opponents or spreading rumors of criminal or corrupt activity about them, to further advance his own career. Someone like that should not be in politics and should never have been allowed to lead the country.

He deserves everything he gets
Couldn't be any worse than Chris Bowen and those bunch of other Labor idiots who opened our borders and killed over a 1,000 people while blowing the budget out.


try not to prove your stupidity with every post.
So you hate Abbot but you beloved party caused the death of over 1,000 people and no criticism??? :-? :-? :-?



Which party built a memorial in Canberra to recognise the amount of people drowned under their watch?  That would be the Coalition.  Google SIEV10 to see how effectively your mob handled things

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by The Grappler on Mar 8th, 2016 at 11:06am
Petagate?

Personally I don't think it matters.... what matters to me is that TA was a merchant of dirt on people, and a sneaky, low-down rodent, as the Hanson affair (Hansongate?) showed, and was not remotely PM material, but handed the plum spot for 'services to the party in back-stabbing'.

Leadership?  A charming Eisenhower could carry off talking with tough paratroopers before D-Day - Tony came across as an outsider clown trying to get inside by talking what he thought was the talk....

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by gandalf on Mar 8th, 2016 at 11:44am
As Laura Tingle said, the affair scandal is a distraction - and quite frankly a welcome one as far as both Credlin and Abbott are concerned. That is why Credlin is now talking that particular aspect of the story up now - and being conspicuously silent on what a bitch she was to her staff and MPs - and how she almost single-handedly drove a wedge between Abbott and the rest of his government. yes its quite telling how she isn't saying anything to defend herself on that front - because she can't.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Mar 8th, 2016 at 11:51am
look over there: what copper internet  ::)

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by matty on Mar 9th, 2016 at 1:46am
Yet again the left misses the point.

Why does Satller get sacked for mentioning rumours about Gillard's partner, and nothing happens to Savva for mentioning rumours about Abbott and Credlin?

A simple question.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by matty on Mar 9th, 2016 at 1:49am

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 11:44am:
As Laura Tingle said, the affair scandal is a distraction - and quite frankly a welcome one as far as both Credlin and Abbott are concerned. That is why Credlin is now talking that particular aspect of the story up now - and being conspicuously silent on what a bitch she was to her staff and MPs - and how she almost single-handedly drove a wedge between Abbott and the rest of his government. yes its quite telling how she isn't saying anything to defend herself on that front - because she can't.


I am the first to admit that she did run things with too much of an iron fist and didn't consult as much and as well as she could and should have. However, that has nothing whatsoever to do with the price of tea in China.

This is about spreading lies and gossip about two people having an affair. Just imagine how Margie Abbott and Brian Loughnane feel, as well as the Abbott's three children.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by The Grappler on Mar 9th, 2016 at 3:10am

matty wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 1:49am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 11:44am:
As Laura Tingle said, the affair scandal is a distraction - and quite frankly a welcome one as far as both Credlin and Abbott are concerned. That is why Credlin is now talking that particular aspect of the story up now - and being conspicuously silent on what a bitch she was to her staff and MPs - and how she almost single-handedly drove a wedge between Abbott and the rest of his government. yes its quite telling how she isn't saying anything to defend herself on that front - because she can't.


I am the first to admit that she did run things with too much of an iron fist and didn't consult as much and as well as she could and should have. However, that has nothing whatsoever to do with the price of tea in China.

This is about spreading lies and gossip about two people having an affair. Just imagine how Margie Abbott and Brian Loughnane feel, as well as the Abbott's three children.


What right did she have to run anything 'with an iron fist'?  She was /is a staff member subject to orders.......

**waits with bated breath**

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by LEUT Bigvicfella (RTD) on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:08am

matty wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 1:49am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 11:44am:
As Laura Tingle said, the affair scandal is a distraction - and quite frankly a welcome one as far as both Credlin and Abbott are concerned. That is why Credlin is now talking that particular aspect of the story up now - and being conspicuously silent on what a bitch she was to her staff and MPs - and how she almost single-handedly drove a wedge between Abbott and the rest of his government. yes its quite telling how she isn't saying anything to defend herself on that front - because she can't.


I am the first to admit that she did run things with too much of an iron fist and didn't consult as much and as well as she could and should have. However, that has nothing whatsoever to do with the price of tea in China.

This is about spreading lies and gossip about two people having an affair. Just imagine how Margie Abbott and Brian Loughnane feel, as well as the Abbott's three children.



Then he shouldn't have been bashing her back out then - shouldn't have he!

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by gandalf on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:29am

matty wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 1:49am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 11:44am:
As Laura Tingle said, the affair scandal is a distraction - and quite frankly a welcome one as far as both Credlin and Abbott are concerned. That is why Credlin is now talking that particular aspect of the story up now - and being conspicuously silent on what a bitch she was to her staff and MPs - and how she almost single-handedly drove a wedge between Abbott and the rest of his government. yes its quite telling how she isn't saying anything to defend herself on that front - because she can't.


I am the first to admit that she did run things with too much of an iron fist and didn't consult as much and as well as she could and should have. However, that has nothing whatsoever to do with the price of tea in China.

This is about spreading lies and gossip about two people having an affair. Just imagine how Margie Abbott and Brian Loughnane feel, as well as the Abbott's three children.


Savva was not spreading anything. She merely related what was already spread. It was the libs themselves who spread the rumour, and Abbott loyalists like Concetta Fierravanti-Wells who warned Abbott that the rumour was flying around. It was clearly a central issue related to the subject of the book, and it would have been pretty impossible for Savva to leave it out.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Dnarever on Mar 9th, 2016 at 8:54pm

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 2:54am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 2:26am:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 1:58am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:44am:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:38am:

matty wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:26am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 12:19am:

matty wrote on Mar 7th, 2016 at 11:43pm:
Why did everyone criticise Howard Sattler for spreading rumours about Gillard's partner being a fag, but not everyone loves it when rumours are spread about Abbott committing infidelity? Where is the criticising and sacking of Niki Savva?

I'm more appalled by Peta Credlin's choice in man.  She can do 1000000x better than the 1d1ot.


What do you have against Loughnane?


He means Mr Abbott, Matty. Ignore these leftards. They really are apalling.

The question on everyone’s lips is why is your Prime Minister still dressed as Hitler?

Thoughts?


If only matty was PM, Karnal. Now there's a man who's ideal for Peta!


No. Matty would have had the lovely Sophie, but it wasn’t to be.

She went in for submarines, while Matty went off to Rhode Island.

But yes, Matty could have been.a contender.

Matty and Peta - now there's a match made in heaven!


How dare you. Matty would never do.such a thing. Ms Credlin is married to Brian.

Matty does not do.slops, thank you very much. He’s saving himself for Miss Right.


He’s saving himself for Miss Right.


Some would say Miss Far Right.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by The Mechanic on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:05pm

matty wrote on Mar 7th, 2016 at 11:43pm:
Why did everyone criticise Howard Sattler for spreading rumours about Gillard's partner being a fag, but not everyone loves it when rumours are spread about Abbott committing infidelity? Where is the criticising and sacking of Niki Savva?


its simple..

Abbott doesn't have a Vagina...

and there endth the lesson..

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Karnal on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:10pm

skippy. wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:17am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:15am:
I find it amazing how much leftards hate Abbott. It's weird. Get to know somebody before you start hating them.

Savva is a rightard. ::)


Not anymore, she’s not. We’re wiping her off our Christmas card list aren’t we, Matty? She’s just another bitter, vindictive old woman who just can’t stand the fact that Mr Abbott was the best Prime Minister we’ve had since J Winston Howard.

This woman’s probably a lesbian or a Muslim or something, but she’s definitely not a rightard. I wouldn’t read her column if you paid me.

Her book’s quite good though. I’m reading it as we speak. Peta Credlin sounds like a true warrior of the right, just like Mr Abbott says. We need more of these in politics. I have no idea why there’s so few in parliament.

Thoughts?

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Karnal on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:29pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:43am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:31am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:23am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:19am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:15am:
I find it amazing how much leftards hate Abbott. It's weird. Get to know somebody before you start hating them.


the guy is a d1ckhead. He spent all his time trying to accumulate 'dirt files' on opponents or spreading rumors of criminal or corrupt activity about them, to further advance his own career. Someone like that should not be in politics and should never have been allowed to lead the country.

He deserves everything he gets
Couldn't be any worse than Chris Bowen and those bunch of other Labor idiots who opened our borders and killed over a 1,000 people while blowing the budget out.


try not to prove your stupidity with every post.
So you hate Abbot but you beloved party caused the death of over 1,000 people and no criticism??? :-? :-? :-?


Exactly. Mr Abbott was a champion for the rights of asylum seekers, and all the leftards can do is spread their usual bile.

Let’s face it, the more lives we save at sea, the more refugees we can bring into.Australia. That’s got to make everybody happy, shurely.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Karnal on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:33pm

matty wrote on Mar 7th, 2016 at 11:43pm:
Where is the criticising and sacking of Niki Savva?


I agree, Matty. Her publisher should sack her. How can we tolerate those who allow such words to.be printed?

Pathetic, leftards, just pathetic.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:36pm
Gillard didn't really have rumours.
It was known that she had an affair with married Craig Emerson.
Crean had to tell them to knock it off.

Abbott and Credlin are more malicious whispering rumouring.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Aussie on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:40pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:36pm:
Gillard didn't really have rumours.
It was known that she had an affair with married Craig Emerson.
Crean had to tell them to knock it off.

Abbott and Credlin are more malicious whispering rumouring.


Yeas, and so shallow it was that a MHR went to Abbott and confronted him with the perception.  That MHR was willing to tell Savva that she had done so.



Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Karnal on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:49pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:36pm:
Gillard didn't really have rumours.
It was known that she had an affair with married Craig Emerson.
Crean had to tell them to knock it off.

Abbott and Credlin are more malicious whispering rumouring.


That’s what these leftards do, Andrei. They have sex with each other, it’s revolting. Thank heavens one of them had enough sense to order them to keep their hands off each other.

That sort of thing would never happen in the Liberal Party of Australia - or, dare I say, your Tories over in England.

Typical.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Karnal on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:53pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:40pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:36pm:
Gillard didn't really have rumours.
It was known that she had an affair with married Craig Emerson.
Crean had to tell them to knock it off.

Abbott and Credlin are more malicious whispering rumouring.


Yeas, and so shallow it was that a MHR went to Abbott and confronted him with the perception.  That MHR was willing to tell Savva that she had done so.


Ridiculous. The Prime Minister should have the pick of the room. What’s wrong with being intimate with your chief of staff? What’s wrong with her feeding you, crying on your shoulder and enjoying the odd playful slap on the bottom? What’s wrong with her choosing your cabinet, approving their senior political staffers, and, for that matter, most senior government appointments?

We’re not talking about leftards, here. These people are grown-ups.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Brendon on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:02pm

matty wrote on Mar 7th, 2016 at 11:43pm:
Why did everyone criticise Howard Sattler for spreading rumours about Gillard's partner being a fag, but not everyone loves it when rumours are spread about Abbott committing infidelity? Where is the criticising and sacking of Niki Savva?


Not a good comparison. One was an unfounded rumour that might be true, but really, who cares.

The other is Niki Savva recounting what she was told by an Abbott ally who challenged him about it and also challenged Credlin. Savva couldn't give a ff about the rumour in her book, and doesn't spend much time on it. She does spend most of the time on the weird relationship they had. And recounts plenty of people who were allies of Abbott, or who worked under Credlin. And they all tip a huge bucket on her.

All Liberal insiders and many were on Abbott's side. Big difference to a throwaway comment by a radio dj.

Peta Credlin makes Mark Latham look normal in comparison.

I read the book. There is no doubt Savva is on the money. She literally quotes a host of former staffers and politicians not afraid to put their names to it. Many of them loyal to Abbott for years previous to Credlin.

Savva had an axe to grind, but Credlin being Credlin made so it easy for her.

One of the most interesting ones was from Peter Reith. John Howard suggested to Abbott to support Reith for  President. So Abbott went to Reith and told him he would support him. Just before the ballot Reith had heard rumours, so he confronted Abbott who re-affirmed his support. So Reith stands against Stockdale. When Abbott votes, he does a public act of showing Stockdale his voting slip as a way of saying "I voted for you". Reith loses. Reith said later about Abbott, "He just lied to me."

The background to the story was that Credlin thought Reith as federal Liberal party president would undermine her husband Liberal federal director Brian Loughnane. But Abbott didn't just turn on Reith, he publicly humiliated him.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by ian on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:03pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

Abbott and Credlin are more malicious whispering rumouring.
Arent these allegations being made in a published book? I dont see either Credlin or Abbott threatening litigation for slander.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Dnarever on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:06pm

Quote:
Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?


The things said about Gillard were obviously false, what is being said about Abbott does not seem to be in the same category.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Mr Hammer on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:09pm
I wish they'd run the country instead of acting like children.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Dnarever on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:11pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
I wish they'd run the country instead of acting like children.



I doubt that it would have made any difference to running the country, I doubt Tony would use that as an excuse.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Karnal on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:20pm

ian wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

Abbott and Credlin are more malicious whispering rumouring.
Arent these allegations being made in a published book? I dont see either Credlin or Abbott threatening litigation for slander.


Exactly. This sort of nonsense shouldn’t be written in the first place. The slurs of infidelity pale in comparison to the other things this book goes into. Scullduggery, leaking, political assassination, policy ineptitude and almost complete government paralysis. I mean, really.

Some things are best left unsaid. Why can’t we talk about all the good things Mr Abbott and Ms Credlin did?

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Karnal on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:23pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
I wish they'd run the country instead of acting like children.


Grown-ups, you mean. You mind your manners, Homo.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Aussie on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:34pm

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

ian wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

Abbott and Credlin are more malicious whispering rumouring.
Arent these allegations being made in a published book? I dont see either Credlin or Abbott threatening litigation for slander.


Exactly. This sort of nonsense shouldn’t be written in the first place. The slurs of infidelity pale in comparison to the other things this book goes into. Scullduggery, leaking, political assassination, policy ineptitude and almost complete government paralysis. I mean, really.

Some things are best left unsaid. Why can’t we talk about all the good things Mr Abbott and Ms Credlin did?


*LOL*

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Karnal on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:36pm

Brendon wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:02pm:

matty wrote on Mar 7th, 2016 at 11:43pm:
Why did everyone criticise Howard Sattler for spreading rumours about Gillard's partner being a fag, but not everyone loves it when rumours are spread about Abbott committing infidelity? Where is the criticising and sacking of Niki Savva?


Not a good comparison. One was an unfounded rumour that might be true, but really, who cares.

The other is Niki Savva recounting what she was told by an Abbott ally who challenged him about it and also challenged Credlin. Savva couldn't give a ff about the rumour in her book, and doesn't spend much time on it. She does spend most of the time on the weird relationship they had. And recounts plenty of people who were allies of Abbott, or who worked under Credlin. And they all tip a huge bucket on her.

All Liberal insiders and many were on Abbott's side. Big difference to a throwaway comment by a radio dj.

Peta Credlin makes Mark Latham look normal in comparison.

I read the book. There is no doubt Savva is on the money. She literally quotes a host of former staffers and politicians not afraid to put their names to it. Many of them loyal to Abbott for years previous to Credlin.

Savva had an axe to grind, but Credlin being Credlin made so it easy for her.

One of the most interesting ones was from Peter Reith. John Howard suggested to Abbott to support Reith for  President. So Abbott went to Reith and told him he would support him. Just before the ballot Reith had heard rumours, so he confronted Abbott who re-affirmed his support. So Reith stands against Stockdale. When Abbott votes, he does a public act of showing Stockdale his voting slip as a way of saying "I voted for you". Reith loses. Reith said later about Abbott, "He just lied to me."

The background to the story was that Credlin thought Reith as federal Liberal party president would undermine her husband Liberal federal director Brian Loughnane. But Abbott didn't just turn on Reith, he publicly humiliated him.


Yes, but so what? If Mr Abbott wants to protect his chief of staff’s interests over his party’s, surely that’s his right as our elected Prime Minister.

Say what you’ll do and do what you say, that’s Mr Abbott’s motto. Behind the scenes, he said it’s best to give into Ms Credlin when she’s in one of her moods and sort things out later.

Women.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by John Dago on Mar 9th, 2016 at 11:07pm
I see the lowest of the low common denominators are just loving nothing but solicitous gossip that has been confirmed as nothing but a rumour.

Not like Shortens rape case where he was investigated or Pilbeserks hubby who spent time in the slammer for for dealing heroin and was later caught with X pills. 

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by ian on Mar 9th, 2016 at 11:14pm

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

ian wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

Abbott and Credlin are more malicious whispering rumouring.
Arent these allegations being made in a published book? I dont see either Credlin or Abbott threatening litigation for slander.


Some things are best left unsaid.
yes, like your posts with this constant gay drama queen sarcastic innuendo. Ok we get it, you are gay.


Quote:
Why can’t we talk about all the good things Mr Abbott and Ms Credlin did?
Go for it, you are telling the story.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by sir prince duke alevine on Mar 9th, 2016 at 11:50pm

ian wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 11:14pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

ian wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

Abbott and Credlin are more malicious whispering rumouring.
Arent these allegations being made in a published book? I dont see either Credlin or Abbott threatening litigation for slander.


Some things are best left unsaid.
yes, like your posts with this constant gay drama queen sarcastic innuendo. Ok we get it, you are gay.


Quote:
Why can’t we talk about all the good things Mr Abbott and Ms Credlin did?
Go for it, you are telling the story.

I'd say anything you ever say is better left unsaid, drunk batman ;). It'll at least stop you from making yourself look so silly all the time.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by John Dago on Mar 10th, 2016 at 12:07am
If only you could do the same, but I doubt you can stop yourself from making a fool of yourself. You are an expert at it.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by sir prince duke alevine on Mar 10th, 2016 at 12:21am

Jennifer wrote on Mar 10th, 2016 at 12:07am:
If only you could do the same, but I doubt you can stop yourself from making a fool of yourself. You are an expert at it.


This would make better sense if you were to just say 'I doubt you could stop yourself from making a fool of yourself, you're an expert at it.' 

:) 

Would you like to try again? I'll pretend I didn't see your first attempt.


Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Karnal on Mar 10th, 2016 at 12:21am

ian wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 11:14pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

ian wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

Abbott and Credlin are more malicious whispering rumouring.
Arent these allegations being made in a published book? I dont see either Credlin or Abbott threatening litigation for slander.


Some things are best left unsaid.
yes, like your posts with this constant gay drama queen sarcastic innuendo. Ok we get it, you are gay.


Quote:
Why can’t we talk about all the good things Mr Abbott and Ms Credlin did?
Go for it, you are telling the story.


Well, what about all the marvellous things he did as our Minister for Women? Why don’t the leftards ever mention them?

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by sir prince duke alevine on Mar 10th, 2016 at 12:23am

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 10th, 2016 at 12:21am:

ian wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 11:14pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

ian wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

Abbott and Credlin are more malicious whispering rumouring.
Arent these allegations being made in a published book? I dont see either Credlin or Abbott threatening litigation for slander.


Some things are best left unsaid.
yes, like your posts with this constant gay drama queen sarcastic innuendo. Ok we get it, you are gay.


Quote:
Why can’t we talk about all the good things Mr Abbott and Ms Credlin did?
Go for it, you are telling the story.


Well, what about all the marvellous things he did as our Minister for Women? Why don’t the leftards ever mention them?


AXE THE TAX
STOP THE BOATS
DITCH THE WITCH

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by John Dago on Mar 10th, 2016 at 12:27am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 10th, 2016 at 12:21am:

Jennifer wrote on Mar 10th, 2016 at 12:07am:
If only you could do the same, but I doubt you can stop yourself from making a fool of yourself. You are an expert at it.


This would make better sense if you were to just say 'I doubt you could stop yourself from making a fool of yourself, you're an expert at it.' 

:) 

Would you like to try again? I'll pretend I didn't see your first attempt.

I see that sense is so foreign to you that you have trouble recognising it unless it is spelt out by Teletubbies to you.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Brendon on Mar 11th, 2016 at 5:28am

matty wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 1:46am:
Yet again the left misses the point.

Why does Satller get sacked for mentioning rumours about Gillard's partner, and nothing happens to Savva for mentioning rumours about Abbott and Credlin?

A simple question.
And answered multiple times in this thread.

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by Brendon on Mar 11th, 2016 at 12:05pm

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 10th, 2016 at 12:21am:

ian wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 11:14pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

ian wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 10:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

Abbott and Credlin are more malicious whispering rumouring.
Arent these allegations being made in a published book? I dont see either Credlin or Abbott threatening litigation for slander.


Some things are best left unsaid.
yes, like your posts with this constant gay drama queen sarcastic innuendo. Ok we get it, you are gay.


Quote:
Why can’t we talk about all the good things Mr Abbott and Ms Credlin did?
Go for it, you are telling the story.


Well, what about all the marvellous things he did as our Minister for Women? Why don’t the leftards ever mention them?


“Well, you know, it’s very important to do the right thing by families and households and, as many of us know, women are particularly focused on the household budget and the repeal of the carbon tax means a $550-a-year benefit for the average family.” - Abbott


Read more at http://www.mamamia.com.au/what-has-tony-abbott-done-as-minister-for-women/#JKH5lwovOXg2Xzwt.99

;D

Title: Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Post by tickleandrose on Mar 11th, 2016 at 12:24pm
After repeal of the carbon tax.  Mr Abbott go on to $2 billion dollars on his own 'direct action' - aka giving away tax money to big corporations by means of 'environmental contract'.  Which comes to about $100 per every man woman and child.   So much for $550 of savings.

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