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Message started by bogarde73 on Feb 29th, 2016 at 1:33pm

Title: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by bogarde73 on Feb 29th, 2016 at 1:33pm
RT:

Thousands of people took to the streets of Stuttgart, Germany to protest a new curriculum set to emphasize sexual diversity. Several groups clashed with police resulting in at least 18 people sustaining injuries.


A mass rally called “Demo für alle” (Demonstration for everyone) was held on Stuttgart’s central Schillerplatz square on Sunday. According to police, about 4,500 people took part in the demonstration, which was organized by the conservative civic association “For Marriage and Family,” whose motto is “Stop gender ideology and sexualization of our children,” local media report.

Demonstrators were protesting the upcoming adoption of a new school curriculum that is expected to be approved by the regional government just before elections. A statement posted on the official site of the rally organizers says that the regional Culture and Education Minister intends to “surreptitiously” sign the document, which has provoked heated public discussion for the past two and a half years.

Meanwhile, the regional Culture and Education Ministry has argued that the public has taken part in the curriculum reform, and its signing is a mere formality, Die Welt reports.

The group that arranged the rally, which “stands for marriage and family… as well as against reeducation [of children] by organized lobby groups,” were protesting a new curriculum that puts special emphasis on “accepting” sexual diversity and sexual minorities.
“The people ‘Demo für alle’ protest against sexualization of children in schools… People from [LGBT] movements try to introduce their ideology and their idea… of acceptance of different sexual behavior into the curriculum. And a lot of parents are against this,” Dr. Norbert Neuhaus from the Foundation for Family Values told RT.
“It is a question of the parents’ right to decide on the education of their children,” he added.

During the rally, the organizers called on demonstrators not to vote for the Green and Left parties that make up the acting government in the forthcoming elections.

On the same day, a number of left-wing organizations staged several counter-rallies in Stuttgart, which were attended by “hundreds” of people, local media reported, citing police sources that would not reveal the exact number present. The counter-protesters shouted slogans such as “Our children will be like us,” and carried placards and banners reading, “Back to the Middle Ages? No, thank you!”

A regional women’s association, which accused “Demo für alle” of having a sexist ideology, had called on people to come out to protest the rally, stressing that everyone has the right to sexual self-determination.


Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Lord Herbert on Feb 29th, 2016 at 2:12pm
Decent folk who want the analists and the rug-munchers to butt out of the schools curriculum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-jxXHQyL5I

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Feb 29th, 2016 at 2:47pm
The one place homophobia hasn't been tackled yet is in schools. Young males are very homophobic. Institutions, workplaces, the corporate world, film and TV, the law - all have reformed homophobic attitudes and practices. Boys, to a large extent, haven't.

I'm not sure whether education can fix this, but if schools don't try, they're not addressing a major social shift in attitudes towards homosexuals. Bullying is toxic. It stays with kids for life. Gay kids continue to commit suicide at a huge rate - even kids who've merely been accused of being gay.

Realistically, the only place this can be addressed is schools. We've done it everywhere else - why not school?

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Sprintcyclist on Feb 29th, 2016 at 2:59pm

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 1:33pm:
RT:

Thousands of people took to the streets of Stuttgart, Germany to protest a new curriculum set to emphasize sexual diversity. Several groups clashed with police resulting in at least 18 people sustaining injuries.


A mass rally called “Demo für alle” (Demonstration for everyone) was held on Stuttgart’s central Schillerplatz square on Sunday. According to police, about 4,500 people took part in the demonstration, which was organized by the conservative civic association “For Marriage and Family,” whose motto is “Stop gender ideology and sexualization of our children,” local media report.

Demonstrators were protesting the upcoming adoption of a new school curriculum that is expected to be approved by the regional government just before elections. A statement posted on the official site of the rally organizers says that the regional Culture and Education Minister intends to “surreptitiously” sign the document, which has provoked heated public discussion for the past two and a half years.

Meanwhile, the regional Culture and Education Ministry has argued that the public has taken part in the curriculum reform, and its signing is a mere formality, Die Welt reports.

The group that arranged the rally, which “stands for marriage and family… as well as against reeducation [of children] by organized lobby groups,” were protesting a new curriculum that puts special emphasis on “accepting” sexual diversity and sexual minorities.
“The people ‘Demo für alle’ protest against sexualization of children in schools… People from [LGBT] movements try to introduce their ideology and their idea… of acceptance of different sexual behavior into the curriculum. And a lot of parents are against this,” Dr. Norbert Neuhaus from the Foundation for Family Values told RT.
“It is a question of the parents’ right to decide on the education of their children,” he added.

During the rally, the organizers called on demonstrators not to vote for the Green and Left parties that make up the acting government in the forthcoming elections.

On the same day, a number of left-wing organizations staged several counter-rallies in Stuttgart, which were attended by “hundreds” of people, local media reported, citing police sources that would not reveal the exact number present. The counter-protesters shouted slogans such as “Our children will be like us,” and carried placards and banners reading, “Back to the Middle Ages? No, thank you!”

A regional women’s association, which accused “Demo für alle” of having a sexist ideology, had called on people to come out to protest the rally, stressing that everyone has the right to sexual self-determination.



looks like the left are trying to destroy Germany as well as Aust

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by bogarde73 on Feb 29th, 2016 at 3:10pm

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 2:47pm:
The one place homophobia hasn't been tackled yet is in schools. Young males are very homophobic. Institutions, workplaces, the corporate world, film and TV, the law - all have reformed homophobic attitudes and practices. Boys, to a large extent, haven't.

I'm not sure whether education can fix this, but if schools don't try, they're not addressing a major social shift in attitudes towards homosexuals. Bullying is toxic. It stays with kids for life. Gay kids continue to commit suicide at a huge rate - even kids who've merely been accused of being gay.

Realistically, the only place this can be addressed is schools. We've done it everywhere else - why not school?


So would you say these people, who are opposed to the agenda of conditioning kids to regard a sexually diverse society as something to be aspired to, are wrong in putting their opinions forcefully?

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Feb 29th, 2016 at 4:40pm

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 2:47pm:
The one place homophobia hasn't been tackled yet is in schools. Young males are very homophobic. Institutions, workplaces, the corporate world, film and TV, the law - all have reformed homophobic attitudes and practices. Boys, to a large extent, haven't.

I'm not sure whether education can fix this, but if schools don't try, they're not addressing a major social shift in attitudes towards homosexuals. Bullying is toxic. It stays with kids for life. Gay kids continue to commit suicide at a huge rate - even kids who've merely been accused of being gay.

Realistically, the only place this can be addressed is schools. We've done it everywhere else - why not school?

I don't mind the issue of homophobia being addressed: but is that really what is being taught here?

For instance, you seem to be saying only young men are homophobic! Why?

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by aquascoot on Feb 29th, 2016 at 4:57pm

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 2:47pm:
The one place homophobia hasn't been tackled yet is in schools. Young males are very homophobic. Institutions, workplaces, the corporate world, film and TV, the law - all have reformed homophobic attitudes and practices. Boys, to a large extent, haven't.

I'm not sure whether education can fix this, but if schools don't try, they're not addressing a major social shift in attitudes towards homosexuals. Bullying is toxic. It stays with kids for life. Gay kids continue to commit suicide at a huge rate - even kids who've merely been accused of being gay.

Realistically, the only place this can be addressed is schools. We've done it everywhere else - why not school?



isnt the number 1 goody two shoes lefty gweggarry Peccarry ALWAYS accusing Sir Bobby of being gay?
Surely a lefty , operating from high consciousness would not be bullying as you seem to be implying here Karmal

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by issuevoter on Feb 29th, 2016 at 5:15pm
You will notice the editor or writer of the article states in the second paragraph: "organized by the conservative civic association “For Marriage and Family.” Could not merely name the association. This is agenda driven journalism where the writer passes judgement under the cover of being informative. The BBC does it every day.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Feb 29th, 2016 at 7:31pm

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 3:10pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 2:47pm:
The one place homophobia hasn't been tackled yet is in schools. Young males are very homophobic. Institutions, workplaces, the corporate world, film and TV, the law - all have reformed homophobic attitudes and practices. Boys, to a large extent, haven't.

I'm not sure whether education can fix this, but if schools don't try, they're not addressing a major social shift in attitudes towards homosexuals. Bullying is toxic. It stays with kids for life. Gay kids continue to commit suicide at a huge rate - even kids who've merely been accused of being gay.

Realistically, the only place this can be addressed is schools. We've done it everywhere else - why not school?


So would you say these people, who are opposed to the agenda of conditioning kids to regard a sexually diverse society as something to be aspired to, are wrong in putting their opinions forcefully?


I’m not that opposed to much, Bogie, but I think the people of which you speak probably don’t have any gay kids. And if they do, they’re obviously not very considerate of them.

Who would oppose programs to address gay bullying?

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Feb 29th, 2016 at 7:35pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 4:57pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 2:47pm:
The one place homophobia hasn't been tackled yet is in schools. Young males are very homophobic. Institutions, workplaces, the corporate world, film and TV, the law - all have reformed homophobic attitudes and practices. Boys, to a large extent, haven't.

I'm not sure whether education can fix this, but if schools don't try, they're not addressing a major social shift in attitudes towards homosexuals. Bullying is toxic. It stays with kids for life. Gay kids continue to commit suicide at a huge rate - even kids who've merely been accused of being gay.

Realistically, the only place this can be addressed is schools. We've done it everywhere else - why not school?



isnt the number 1 goody two shoes lefty gweggarry Peccarry ALWAYS accusing Sir Bobby of being gay?
Surely a lefty , operating from high consciousness would not be bullying as you seem to be implying here Karmal


Bobbie’s as camp as a row of tents, dear. He’s the board’s handbag.

We all uphold Bobbie’s right to express himself here. No one should attack Bobbie for being who he is. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it, nothing at all.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Feb 29th, 2016 at 7:38pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 4:40pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 2:47pm:
The one place homophobia hasn't been tackled yet is in schools. Young males are very homophobic. Institutions, workplaces, the corporate world, film and TV, the law - all have reformed homophobic attitudes and practices. Boys, to a large extent, haven't.

I'm not sure whether education can fix this, but if schools don't try, they're not addressing a major social shift in attitudes towards homosexuals. Bullying is toxic. It stays with kids for life. Gay kids continue to commit suicide at a huge rate - even kids who've merely been accused of being gay.

Realistically, the only place this can be addressed is schools. We've done it everywhere else - why not school?

I don't mind the issue of homophobia being addressed: but is that really what is being taught here?

For instance, you seem to be saying only young men are homophobic! Why?


Because I work with kids, and used to teach in schools - in Australia.

Schools are intensely homophobic places. Things are changing, but not a lot.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Honky on Feb 29th, 2016 at 7:56pm
Karnal is holding down at least 5 jobs. 

Any more lies you'd like to tell us while you're in the mood?

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by GordyL on Feb 29th, 2016 at 7:57pm
Damn I love German girls.  In bed they are just filthy filthy.

Stay German,  Germany

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 29th, 2016 at 7:58pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 4:57pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 2:47pm:
The one place homophobia hasn't been tackled yet is in schools. Young males are very homophobic. Institutions, workplaces, the corporate world, film and TV, the law - all have reformed homophobic attitudes and practices. Boys, to a large extent, haven't.

I'm not sure whether education can fix this, but if schools don't try, they're not addressing a major social shift in attitudes towards homosexuals. Bullying is toxic. It stays with kids for life. Gay kids continue to commit suicide at a huge rate - even kids who've merely been accused of being gay.

Realistically, the only place this can be addressed is schools. We've done it everywhere else - why not school?



isnt the number 1 goody two shoes lefty gweggarry Peccarry ALWAYS accusing Sir Bobby of being gay?
Surely a lefty , operating from high consciousness would not be bullying as you seem to be implying here Karmal


Are you suggesting that there's something wrong with Sir Booby, just because he's gay?

Why would you say such a thing - are you a homophobe?


Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Feb 29th, 2016 at 8:04pm

... wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 7:56pm:
Karnal is holding down at least 5 jobs. 

Any more lies you'd like to tell us while you're in the mood?


Two jobs, big boy. Still teaching kung dam you, or have you decided to re-invent the stick?

Been here two hundred years...

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Feb 29th, 2016 at 8:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 7:58pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 4:57pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 2:47pm:
The one place homophobia hasn't been tackled yet is in schools. Young males are very homophobic. Institutions, workplaces, the corporate world, film and TV, the law - all have reformed homophobic attitudes and practices. Boys, to a large extent, haven't.

I'm not sure whether education can fix this, but if schools don't try, they're not addressing a major social shift in attitudes towards homosexuals. Bullying is toxic. It stays with kids for life. Gay kids continue to commit suicide at a huge rate - even kids who've merely been accused of being gay.

Realistically, the only place this can be addressed is schools. We've done it everywhere else - why not school?



isnt the number 1 goody two shoes lefty gweggarry Peccarry ALWAYS accusing Sir Bobby of being gay?
Surely a lefty , operating from high consciousness would not be bullying as you seem to be implying here Karmal


Are you suggesting that there's something wrong with Sir Booby, just because he's gay?

Why would you say such a thing - are you a homophobe?


Ee-gad, no. Aqua believes in self actualisation. If you’re a dirty hommer, you need to read the Seven Highly Effective Habits for Highly Effective People by Wayne Dwyer.

A number of inverts have been cured after reading this.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Feb 29th, 2016 at 8:16pm

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 8:04pm:

... wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 7:56pm:
Karnal is holding down at least 5 jobs. 

Any more lies you'd like to tell us while you're in the mood?


Two jobs, big boy. Still teaching kung dam you, or have you decided to re-invent the stick?

Been here two hundred years...


Kung dam you, eh?

What, you’re editing Chinese now, FD?

What happened to Freeeeedom?

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Honky on Feb 29th, 2016 at 8:24pm
Hmm what an interesting edit.

From working with cops to teaching Kung fu - it's like someone corrected you - but who?   

The funny part is both of you are wrong.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by ian on Feb 29th, 2016 at 8:30pm

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 7:31pm:
[

Who would oppose programs to address gay bullying?
You and Greggary? Since you both practise it here. Inappropriate reference to anothers sexuality is considered bullying, they didnt teach you that at the schools you worked at? Were you the janitor?

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Feb 29th, 2016 at 8:47pm

... wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 8:24pm:
Hmm what an interesting edit.

From working with cops to teaching Kung dam you - it's like someone corrected you - but who?   

The funny part is both of you are wrong.


Pretending, eh?.No worries, Honky.. You’re really quite sensitive, aren’t you, dear?

What are you trying to hide? Teaching cops? Or teaching kids how to kill with their bare hands?

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Feb 29th, 2016 at 8:49pm

ian wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 8:30pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 7:31pm:
[

Who would oppose programs to address gay bullying?
You and Greggary? Since you both practise it here. Inappropriate reference to anothers sexuality is considered bullying, they didnt teach you that at the schools you worked at? Were you the janitor?


Nothing wrong with cleaners, Ian. Some of my best friends like a bit of spit and polish, dear.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Honky on Feb 29th, 2016 at 8:54pm

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 8:47pm:

... wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 8:24pm:
Hmm what an interesting edit.

From working with cops to teaching Kung dam you - it's like someone corrected you - but who?   

The funny part is both of you are wrong.


Pretending, eh?.No worries, Honky.. You’re really quite sensitive, aren’t you, dear?

What are you trying to hide? Teaching cops? Or teaching kids how to kill with their bare hands?


I've taught many people many things, but I'm afraid the police force and kung fu are not among them. 

What did you teach?

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by ian on Feb 29th, 2016 at 9:29pm

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 8:49pm:

ian wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 8:30pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 7:31pm:
[

Who would oppose programs to address gay bullying?
You and Greggary? Since you both practise it here. Inappropriate reference to anothers sexuality is considered bullying, they didnt teach you that at the schools you worked at? Were you the janitor?


Nothing wrong with cleaners, Ian. Some of my best friends like a bit of spit and polish, dear.
who implied there was something  wrong with cleaners? You claimed you worked at childrens schools but didnt know the bullying policy, i presumed your role was something else other than teacher. Theres no shame in it karnal, all labour has dignity. Be proud.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Feb 29th, 2016 at 10:59pm

... wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 8:54pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 8:47pm:

... wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 8:24pm:
Hmm what an interesting edit.

From working with cops to teaching Kung dam you - it's like someone corrected you - but who?   

The funny part is both of you are wrong.


Pretending, eh?.No worries, Honky.. You’re really quite sensitive, aren’t you, dear?

What are you trying to hide? Teaching cops? Or teaching kids how to kill with their bare hands?


I've taught many people many things, but I'm afraid the police force and kung dam you are not among them. 

What did you teach?


The Queen’s English, dear.

Shame on you for spelling your tireless volunteer work teaching hundreds of kids how to fight wrong.

We teach skills in that, you know. I could even teach you the Chinese if FD didn’t censor it.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Honky on Feb 29th, 2016 at 11:29pm
If you anted to fight you wouldn't learn Kung fu.

Id advise these Germans to pop over to holland for a few pointers. 

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by aquascoot on Mar 1st, 2016 at 6:19am

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 8:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 7:58pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 4:57pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 2:47pm:
The one place homophobia hasn't been tackled yet is in schools. Young males are very homophobic. Institutions, workplaces, the corporate world, film and TV, the law - all have reformed homophobic attitudes and practices. Boys, to a large extent, haven't.

I'm not sure whether education can fix this, but if schools don't try, they're not addressing a major social shift in attitudes towards homosexuals. Bullying is toxic. It stays with kids for life. Gay kids continue to commit suicide at a huge rate - even kids who've merely been accused of being gay.

Realistically, the only place this can be addressed is schools. We've done it everywhere else - why not school?



isnt the number 1 goody two shoes lefty gweggarry Peccarry ALWAYS accusing Sir Bobby of being gay?
Surely a lefty , operating from high consciousness would not be bullying as you seem to be implying here Karmal


Are you suggesting that there's something wrong with Sir Booby, just because he's gay?

Why would you say such a thing - are you a homophobe?


Ee-gad, no. Aqua believes in self actualisation. If you’re a dirty hommer, you need to read the Seven Highly Effective Habits for Highly Effective People by Wayne Dwyer.

A number of inverts have been cured after reading this.



steven covey wrote that one K.

one of the 7 habits involves self analysis of our own narcissism .'

and has there ever been a more narcissistic cohort of people then the gays?
It almost seems the lifestyle itself is born out of an intense auto erotic narcissistic personality disorder.
certainly the main way to break free of our own self involvement is to have children and then spend 25 years putting their needs first.
the gay person (maybe at a subconscious level) would see this as a threat to this life of pleasure and self indulgence.

certainly in the way that gays deal with the rest of society, there is only a "me, me, me" attitude.

Coveys great maxim

Seek first to understand , before you ask to be understood.

Do gays seek to understand non-gays?

I dont think they've ever stepped out of their self indulgent mind set in their lives.

They should make Coveys book a study book at school.
In fact they do!!!!.
the qld curicullum has incorporated the 7 habits into year 10 social studies.
Well done.
Google it if you dont believe me  ;) ;)

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Mar 1st, 2016 at 8:32am

aquascoot wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 6:19am:

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 8:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 7:58pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 4:57pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 2:47pm:
The one place homophobia hasn't been tackled yet is in schools. Young males are very homophobic. Institutions, workplaces, the corporate world, film and TV, the law - all have reformed homophobic attitudes and practices. Boys, to a large extent, haven't.

I'm not sure whether education can fix this, but if schools don't try, they're not addressing a major social shift in attitudes towards homosexuals. Bullying is toxic. It stays with kids for life. Gay kids continue to commit suicide at a huge rate - even kids who've merely been accused of being gay.

Realistically, the only place this can be addressed is schools. We've done it everywhere else - why not school?



isnt the number 1 goody two shoes lefty gweggarry Peccarry ALWAYS accusing Sir Bobby of being gay?
Surely a lefty , operating from high consciousness would not be bullying as you seem to be implying here Karmal


Are you suggesting that there's something wrong with Sir Booby, just because he's gay?

Why would you say such a thing - are you a homophobe?


Ee-gad, no. Aqua believes in self actualisation. If you’re a dirty hommer, you need to read the Seven Highly Effective Habits for Highly Effective People by Wayne Dwyer.

A number of inverts have been cured after reading this.



steven covey wrote that one K.

one of the 7 habits involves self analysis of our own narcissism .'

and has there ever been a more narcissistic cohort of people then the gays?
It almost seems the lifestyle itself is born out of an intense auto erotic narcissistic personality disorder.
certainly the main way to break free of our own self involvement is to have children and then spend 25 years putting their needs first.
the gay person (maybe at a subconscious level) would see this as a threat to this life of pleasure and self indulgence.

certainly in the way that gays deal with the rest of society, there is only a "me, me, me" attitude.

Coveys great maxim

Seek first to understand , before you ask to be understood.

Do gays seek to understand non-gays?

I dont think they've ever stepped out of their self indulgent mind set in their lives.

They should make Coveys book a study book at school.
In fact they do!!!!.
the qld curicullum has incorporated the 7 habits into year 10 social studies.
Well done.
Google it if you dont believe me  ;) ;)


I believe you, Aquascoot.

If the army can address gay bullying, why can't schools?

They could even use the Seven Highly Effective Habits as a rubric.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Mar 1st, 2016 at 8:32am

... wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 11:29pm:
If you anted to fight you wouldn't learn Kung dam you.

Id advise these Germans to pop over to holland for a few pointers. 


Rotto, eh?

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by innocentbystander. on Mar 1st, 2016 at 2:36pm
German society fighting back ...



https://youtu.be/EM1gn7pvPB0

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by ian on Mar 1st, 2016 at 2:50pm
he didnt put that choke on hard enough.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Baronvonrort on Mar 1st, 2016 at 4:48pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73PBsI6U0ck

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Soren on Mar 1st, 2016 at 5:53pm

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 8:32am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 6:19am:

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 8:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 7:58pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 4:57pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 2:47pm:
The one place homophobia hasn't been tackled yet is in schools. Young males are very homophobic. Institutions, workplaces, the corporate world, film and TV, the law - all have reformed homophobic attitudes and practices. Boys, to a large extent, haven't.

I'm not sure whether education can fix this, but if schools don't try, they're not addressing a major social shift in attitudes towards homosexuals. Bullying is toxic. It stays with kids for life. Gay kids continue to commit suicide at a huge rate - even kids who've merely been accused of being gay.

Realistically, the only place this can be addressed is schools. We've done it everywhere else - why not school?



isnt the number 1 goody two shoes lefty gweggarry Peccarry ALWAYS accusing Sir Bobby of being gay?
Surely a lefty , operating from high consciousness would not be bullying as you seem to be implying here Karmal


Are you suggesting that there's something wrong with Sir Booby, just because he's gay?

Why would you say such a thing - are you a homophobe?


Ee-gad, no. Aqua believes in self actualisation. If you’re a dirty hommer, you need to read the Seven Highly Effective Habits for Highly Effective People by Wayne Dwyer.

A number of inverts have been cured after reading this.



steven covey wrote that one K.

one of the 7 habits involves self analysis of our own narcissism .'

and has there ever been a more narcissistic cohort of people then the gays?
It almost seems the lifestyle itself is born out of an intense auto erotic narcissistic personality disorder.
certainly the main way to break free of our own self involvement is to have children and then spend 25 years putting their needs first.
the gay person (maybe at a subconscious level) would see this as a threat to this life of pleasure and self indulgence.

certainly in the way that gays deal with the rest of society, there is only a "me, me, me" attitude.

Coveys great maxim

Seek first to understand , before you ask to be understood.

Do gays seek to understand non-gays?

I dont think they've ever stepped out of their self indulgent mind set in their lives.

They should make Coveys book a study book at school.
In fact they do!!!!.
the qld curicullum has incorporated the 7 habits into year 10 social studies.
Well done.
Google it if you dont believe me  ;) ;)


I believe you, Aquascoot.

If the army can address gay bullying, why can't schools?

They could even use the Seven Highly Effective Habits as a rubric.


As always, you make a category mistake, PB.

Aqua is talking about narcisssistic self-indulgence - and you immediately switch to bullying.  Gays are very narcissistic and self-indulgent by definition - there is no next generation of gays they are bringing forth. Whether they are a bullied or not is another matter and is completely unrelated to their self-indulgent narcissism. 




Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Honky on Mar 1st, 2016 at 6:03pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 4:48pm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73PBsI6U0ck


that is so fake.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by ian on Mar 1st, 2016 at 6:14pm
Never. :o

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Soren on Mar 1st, 2016 at 6:37pm
How it's done properly:


A group of 51 refugees were brutally assaulted outside a night club in Murmansk, Russia, after they groped and molested women at a night club Saturday.

The refugees had previously been ordered to leave Norway for “bad behavior” and tried their luck in Russia. What they didn’t realize when they went out clubbing in Murmansk is that Russians have less tolerance when it comes to sexual assault on local women than other European countries.
Completing this poll entitles you to Daily Caller news updates free of charge. You may opt out at anytime. You also agree to our Privacy Policy and Terms of Use.
The refugees allegedly groped and harassed women in a similar manner as the assaults in Cologne on New Year’s Eve. A group of male Russian took them aside to “educate” them that “Cologne is 2,500 kilometers south of here.” (RELATED: Cologne Prepares For More Sexual Assaults During Carnival This Week)
The refugees tried to flee but were quickly captured by the Russians. They then took them out to the street and gave them a beating they will remember. Police arrived to break up the fight but locals report that they threw a few punches at the refugees before arresting 33 of them. Eighteen refugees were in such bad condition they had to be take to the hospital.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/04/refugees-go-clubbing-in-russia-harass-girls-wake-up-in-hospital-the-next-morning/#ixzz41ddlwpGc

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Mar 1st, 2016 at 7:27pm

ian wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 6:14pm:
Never. :o


Here’s one for you, old boy. This one likes Danish too, no?

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Mar 1st, 2016 at 7:34pm

Soren wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 6:37pm:
How it's done properly:


A group of 51 refugees were brutally assaulted outside a night club in Murmansk, Russia, after they groped and molested women at a night club Saturday.

The refugees had previously been ordered to leave Norway for “bad behavior” and tried their luck in Russia. What they didn’t realize when they went out clubbing in Murmansk is that Russians have less tolerance when it comes to sexual assault on local women than other European countries.
Completing this poll entitles you to Daily Caller news updates free of charge. You may opt out at anytime. You also agree to our Privacy Policy and Terms of Use.
The refugees allegedly groped and harassed women in a similar manner as the assaults in Cologne on New Year’s Eve. A group of male Russian took them aside to “educate” them that “Cologne is 2,500 kilometers south of here.” (RELATED: Cologne Prepares For More Sexual Assaults During Carnival This Week)
The refugees tried to flee but were quickly captured by the Russians. They then took them out to the street and gave them a beating they will remember. Police arrived to break up the fight but locals report that they threw a few punches at the refugees before arresting 33 of them. Eighteen refugees were in such bad condition they had to be take to the hospital.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/04/refugees-go-clubbing-in-russia-harass-girls-wake-up-in-hospital-the-next-morning/#ixzz41ddlwpGc


Ordered to leave Norway for bad behaviour, eh? Educated  by the Russians - in hospital.

Would anyone like to suggest who orders refugees to leave for bad behaviour so that they wander aimlessly into Russia?

I’m.curious. 

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Soren on Mar 1st, 2016 at 7:39pm

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 7:34pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 6:37pm:
How it's done properly:


A group of 51 refugees were brutally assaulted outside a night club in Murmansk, Russia, after they groped and molested women at a night club Saturday.

The refugees had previously been ordered to leave Norway for “bad behavior” and tried their luck in Russia. What they didn’t realize when they went out clubbing in Murmansk is that Russians have less tolerance when it comes to sexual assault on local women than other European countries.
Completing this poll entitles you to Daily Caller news updates free of charge. You may opt out at anytime. You also agree to our Privacy Policy and Terms of Use.
The refugees allegedly groped and harassed women in a similar manner as the assaults in Cologne on New Year’s Eve. A group of male Russian took them aside to “educate” them that “Cologne is 2,500 kilometers south of here.” (RELATED: Cologne Prepares For More Sexual Assaults During Carnival This Week)
The refugees tried to flee but were quickly captured by the Russians. They then took them out to the street and gave them a beating they will remember. Police arrived to break up the fight but locals report that they threw a few punches at the refugees before arresting 33 of them. Eighteen refugees were in such bad condition they had to be take to the hospital.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/04/refugees-go-clubbing-in-russia-harass-girls-wake-up-in-hospital-the-next-morning/#ixzz41ddlwpGc


Ordered to leave Norway for bad behaviour, eh? Educated  by the Russians - in hospital.

Would anyone like to suggest who orders refugees to leave for bad behaviour so that they wander aimlessly into Russia?

I’m.curious. 

They are not refugees, PB. They are educated by the Russians.

Are you against education??







Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Mar 1st, 2016 at 8:04pm

Soren wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 7:39pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 7:34pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 6:37pm:
How it's done properly:


A group of 51 refugees were brutally assaulted outside a night club in Murmansk, Russia, after they groped and molested women at a night club Saturday.

The refugees had previously been ordered to leave Norway for “bad behavior” and tried their luck in Russia. What they didn’t realize when they went out clubbing in Murmansk is that Russians have less tolerance when it comes to sexual assault on local women than other European countries.
Completing this poll entitles you to Daily Caller news updates free of charge. You may opt out at anytime. You also agree to our Privacy Policy and Terms of Use.
The refugees allegedly groped and harassed women in a similar manner as the assaults in Cologne on New Year’s Eve. A group of male Russian took them aside to “educate” them that “Cologne is 2,500 kilometers south of here.” (RELATED: Cologne Prepares For More Sexual Assaults During Carnival This Week)
The refugees tried to flee but were quickly captured by the Russians. They then took them out to the street and gave them a beating they will remember. Police arrived to break up the fight but locals report that they threw a few punches at the refugees before arresting 33 of them. Eighteen refugees were in such bad condition they had to be take to the hospital.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/04/refugees-go-clubbing-in-russia-harass-girls-wake-up-in-hospital-the-next-morning/#ixzz41ddlwpGc


Ordered to leave Norway for bad behaviour, eh? Educated  by the Russians - in hospital.

Would anyone like to suggest who orders refugees to leave for bad behaviour so that they wander aimlessly into Russia?

I’m.curious. 

They are not refugees, PB. They are educated by the Russians.

Are you against education??


What’s the Dailycaller, old dear? A Nazi joke site?

How do 51 "refugees" get picked up for rape by the Russian neighbourhood watch?

I can’t help it, dear boy. I’m really curious.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Soren on Mar 1st, 2016 at 8:38pm
It's a wonderful IDEA, PB.
That's what matters.

One want to believe that these savages are bloodied and beaten and - dare I say it - oppressed and what's the word? COUNTERED.


Give them what for with both barrels. You want law enforcement to deal with them before it descends into a civil war and a pogrom. And the pogrom is on its way. The blonde beast will unleash itself and nobody will be able to do a damned thing about it.   If you think Europeans will take it much longer then you a a bigger cloaka than anyone ever thought. Keynesian economics and all that crap notwithstanding.
You are laughable, PB.





Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Mar 1st, 2016 at 9:38pm
I know you try, OB, but that doesn’t satiate my curiousity.

How do we know those 51 "refugees" weren’t just darkies who fell foul of Russian skinheads?

I’m.still really curious why anyone would go out to cut up "refugees" who politely opted to leave Scandinavia for Russia. What were a gathering of 51 "refugees" doing raping Russian women in the nightclub district of Murmansk?

And what journalistic standards are upheld by the Dailycall?

I welcome your forthright response, dear boy. I hate to think you’ve got the wrong end of the stick and are unwittingly spreading neo-Nazi propaganda.

You have a sterling reputation here for intelligence and integrity.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by gandalf on Mar 1st, 2016 at 10:37pm

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 9:38pm:
I know you try, OB, but that doesn’t satiate my curiousity.

How do we know those 51 "refugees" weren’t just darkies who fell foul of Russian skinheads?

I’m.still really curious why anyone would go out to cut up "refugees" who politely opted to leave Scandinavia for Russia. What were a gathering of 51 "refugees" doing raping Russian women in the nightclub district of Murmansk?

And what journalistic standards are upheld by the Dailycall?

I welcome your forthright response, dear boy. I hate to think you’ve got the wrong end of the stick and are unwittingly spreading neo-Nazi propaganda.

You have a sterling reputation here for intelligence and integrity.


S said it himself, its a wonderful idea and thats all that matters.

I must say i dont think ive ever heard S be so forthright and candid in his support for porkies.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Mar 1st, 2016 at 11:31pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 10:37pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 9:38pm:
I know you try, OB, but that doesn’t satiate my curiousity.

How do we know those 51 "refugees" weren’t just darkies who fell foul of Russian skinheads?

I’m.still really curious why anyone would go out to cut up "refugees" who politely opted to leave Scandinavia for Russia. What were a gathering of 51 "refugees" doing raping Russian women in the nightclub district of Murmansk?

And what journalistic standards are upheld by the Dailycall?

I welcome your forthright response, dear boy. I hate to think you’ve got the wrong end of the stick and are unwittingly spreading neo-Nazi propaganda.

You have a sterling reputation here for intelligence and integrity.


S said it himself, its a wonderful idea and thats all that matters.

I must say i dont think ive ever heard S be so forthright and candid in his support for porkies.


Or his support for random beatings and stabbings of "refugees".

Superior culture, innit.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Soren on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 9:11pm
They are not refugees.  What is a band of Muslim thugs doing in Norway and Norther Russia in night clubs? What is a horde of a million Muslims doing in Europe??
Why is it up to the infidel Europeans to save Muslims from other Muslims????   Breaking down borders? They should be shot. Tear gas is too good for 'em.

Get the armies on to the borders and shoot every illegal violator of international borders. 

Who the bloody hell do they think they are, these opportunistic invaders?  Border =  limit. Limits - they apply to everyone. EVEN Muslims.i



Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Mar 4th, 2016 at 11:14am
Er, because they’re not from Norway. They’re from the Russian satelite states that happen to be tinted. You know, the ones Russia gangs go round murdering.

You won’t read that in the Dailycall, now will you?

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by bogarde73 on Mar 5th, 2016 at 9:39am
I think I read they travelled all the way up through Central Asia to the Arctic of Russia and then round into Norway.
There is a Russia-Norway border apparently

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Mar 5th, 2016 at 11:25pm
Oh yes, a tribe of wandering subhumans, trapsing aaround Europe cracking onto "our" women.

Before the Russians put a stop to it, of course.

And if you believe that, you’ll believe anything.

The old boy does, but he’s playing the mendacious card.

Google: taqiyya.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Setanta on Mar 5th, 2016 at 11:33pm

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 5th, 2016 at 11:25pm:
Oh yes, a tribe of wandering subhumans, trapsing aaround Europe cracking onto "our" women.

Before the Russians put a stop to it, of course.

And if you believe that, you’ll believe anything.

The old boy does, but he’s playing the mendacious card.

Google: taqiyya.


I'm not sure "cracking onto" is the right term Karnal.

Oh, I missed the "our" as the quoted possessive. I'm sure it's only the men that are appalled, the sexists think women can't choose to let others decide if they need a bit of a touch up. Surely Moslems have the same rights as women?

Edit: To make it clear, absolving assault by non natives by equating them with the assaults of natives, where does this leave women? It's OK darls, it could have been one of your countrymen, that would be far worse.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Mar 6th, 2016 at 2:04am
The "touch up" is code for having the gall to be on the same street as Russian skinheads.

As a devout Moslem woman, of course, I’ve been touched up by plenty of Russian men. It’s all a giggle.

Especially when they put you in one of their excellent state hospitals.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by mariacostel on Mar 11th, 2016 at 6:24pm

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 2:47pm:
The one place homophobia hasn't been tackled yet is in schools. Young males are very homophobic. Institutions, workplaces, the corporate world, film and TV, the law - all have reformed homophobic attitudes and practices. Boys, to a large extent, haven't.

I'm not sure whether education can fix this, but if schools don't try, they're not addressing a major social shift in attitudes towards homosexuals. Bullying is toxic. It stays with kids for life. Gay kids continue to commit suicide at a huge rate - even kids who've merely been accused of being gay.

Realistically, the only place this can be addressed is schools. We've done it everywhere else - why not school?


Because it isn't about 'acceptance'. It is not about ending bullying. It is about encouraging diversity itself, not the acceptance of that. Questions of morality, especially sexual morality have no place in the school curriculum. They are taught in the home.

You've hear the outcry about Christian SChools teaching abstinence and heterosexual normalisation. Why is that bad and okay for public schools to teach the reverse?  Perhaps schools should teach maths science and English instead of social engineering.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Lord Herbert on Mar 11th, 2016 at 8:22pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 4:48pm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73PBsI6U0ck


They sure picked on the wrong guy. Where was Security? North Africans.

Don't ya just love 'diversity' and 'difference'? So enriching.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 11th, 2016 at 9:13pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElAskBOG1Ak

I've always liked russkies

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Mar 16th, 2016 at 2:36pm

mariacostel wrote on Mar 11th, 2016 at 6:24pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 2:47pm:
The one place homophobia hasn't been tackled yet is in schools. Young males are very homophobic. Institutions, workplaces, the corporate world, film and TV, the law - all have reformed homophobic attitudes and practices. Boys, to a large extent, haven't.

I'm not sure whether education can fix this, but if schools don't try, they're not addressing a major social shift in attitudes towards homosexuals. Bullying is toxic. It stays with kids for life. Gay kids continue to commit suicide at a huge rate - even kids who've merely been accused of being gay.

Realistically, the only place this can be addressed is schools. We've done it everywhere else - why not school?


Because it isn't about 'acceptance'. It is not about ending bullying. It is about encouraging diversity itself, not the acceptance of that. Questions of morality, especially sexual morality have no place in the school curriculum. They are taught in the home.

You've hear the outcry about Christian SChools teaching abstinence and heterosexual normalisation. 


It's not - unless it discriminates on the basis of sexuality. Then it's against the law.

Schools are part of civil society. I'd argue they form the very basis of civil society. If schools can't at least attempt to end discrimination, what hope do workplaces, corporate boards, the public service, the military?

Teaching abstinence and heterosexual normalization is already the norm. Kids learn this from a very young age. You wouldn't discourage schools from teaching about stranger danger or prohibiting grown-ups from touching you "down there" any more than you'd discourage schools from teaching about morality.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Honky on Mar 16th, 2016 at 2:42pm

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 16th, 2016 at 2:36pm:
If schools can't at least attempt to end discrimination



hang on - I thought this was an anti bullying program?

You've just admitted it's goal is something else. 
An ideological goal. 
An own goal.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Mar 16th, 2016 at 8:14pm

... wrote on Mar 16th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 16th, 2016 at 2:36pm:
If schools can't at least attempt to end discrimination



hang on - I thought this was an anti bullying program?

You've just admitted it's goal is something else. 
An ideological goal. 
An own goal.


Good-o. Feel free to write a post on the difference between bullying and discrimination if you’d like, Honky. We’ll take it from there.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Honky on Mar 16th, 2016 at 8:51pm
And you feel free to use a dictionary.

That, or drop the charade.

Title: Re: Is German society fighting back at last?
Post by Karnal on Mar 16th, 2016 at 9:31pm

... wrote on Mar 16th, 2016 at 8:51pm:
And you feel free to use a dictionary.

That, or drop the charade.


Is that your final answer?

Let’s lock in "dictionary".

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