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Message started by Sir Crook on Feb 21st, 2016 at 7:28am

Title: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Sir Crook on Feb 21st, 2016 at 7:28am
Blood on the carpet: WorkSafe gets graphic in ad campaign

Date
    February 19, 2016
    The Age

Graphic safety warnings showing workers maimed and bloodied will be resurrected in Victoria this weekend as new data reveals 70 people are injured every day in the workplace.   :o   

After dumping grisly images from advertisements in 2014 and taking a less-hostile approach to employers, WorkSafe has revived the powerful campaign tactic to reinforce the consequences of negligence, including criminal prosecution.

New statistics from the work safety regulator, obtained by Fairfax Media, reveal that in 2015 26,074 Victorians were injured on the job severely enough to receive compensation.   

Total workplace injury claims dropped 11 per cent since 2011. But some types of injuries remain rife or have risen in 2015. Job-related mental health problems accounted for 3087 claims; fractures made up 2450 claims; and skull injuries had 311. Twenty people were killed at work statewide.   :(


WorkSafe's new chief executive, Clare Amies, said it was time for a tougher attitude and a "hard-hitting" public awareness campaign aimed squarely at employers.

"Unfortunately, in some of the claims, it is the same things that keep happening... this is the problem for us," she said.

"We are getting better safety – claims are reducing – but 26,000 a year, and 20 fatalities. It is just not where we want to be... we have got to do better."   :(

Featured in the advertisements are scenes of a blue-collar worker whose hand has been severed, and a hospital employee lying unconscious on the floor.

Healthcare employees had almost 4000 WorkSafe injury claims last year, the second-highest of any Victorian workforce. The Australian Nursing and Midwifery Federation said workers in the industry were exposed to grave dangers on a daily basis, including manual handling injuries, mental stress, and violence.

"I have been to meetings with members where they have said they expect to be injured at some point every day," union workplace safety co-ordinator Kathy Chrisfield said.

"Employers need to be dealing with preventing occupational violence like they would for any other health and safety issue."

Ms Chrisfield said the state government and WorkSafe were committing to a greater focus on occupational violence and the need for better measures including consistent training, incident responses, security, and risk assessments of patients and family.

WorkSafe's ad campaign, costing $2.5 million, comes after a string of changes within the organisation.

Premier Daniel Andrews sacked WorkSafe's former chief executive, Denise Cosgrove, and chairman David Krasnostein soon after winning government, saying he had "lost confidence" in the pair over their handling of water contamination at the CFA's Fiskville training base.

A decision was also made last year to restore the watchdog's globally recognised brand name, WorkSafe, which had been changed to WorkCover under the former Coalition government. And press releases publicising prosecutions of employers for safety violations also resumed, after these public notifications vanished.

Sources told Fairfax Media that there previously had been a "noticeable" push to make the organisation less hostile to employers.

Ms Amies said the heat was now being put back on business, warning workplaces to be aware that "our inspectors are out there".

"We make no apology for delivering this blunt message to employers that they must do everything they can to protect the health and safety of their employees," Ms Amies said.

"It's not to say employers don't take this seriously... but we have had four [workplace deaths] already this year. Sometimes, we have to be a bit harsher."   :(

Finance Minister Robin Scott said the WorkSafe advertisements – to run on television, radio, online, in print and outdoors – showed an employer dealing with the consequences of a workplace accident, telling the victim's family, supporting traumatised colleagues, and dealing with an investigation that could lead to criminal charges being laid.

"While the rate of injuries in Victorian workplaces continues to decline, the simple fact is that it is never acceptable for anyone to be killed or injured at work," he said.



Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by miketrees on Feb 21st, 2016 at 7:34am
"We make no apology for delivering this blunt message to employers that they must do everything they can to protect the health and safety of their employees," Ms Amies said.

I work in safety, while the policies say otherwise our middle management are lazy phuckers who dont give a sh!t about safety.

Jail terms is the only answer

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by cods on Feb 21st, 2016 at 7:51am

miketrees wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 7:34am:
"We make no apology for delivering this blunt message to employers that they must do everything they can to protect the health and safety of their employees," Ms Amies said.

I work in safety, while the policies say otherwise our middle management are lazy phuckers who dont give a sh!t about safety.

Jail terms is the only answer




the consequences are never severe enough in some cases.

however I disagree its always the employers fault...

mike come to Canberra and just watch hoiw people use a pedestrian crossing.......almost to a one no one looks each way...the older they are the more they expect you to notice them.. its only a small thing.but at the end of the day...

we should always be taught to look after ourselves... dont expect someone else to do it for you..

I am amazed to think people now NEED PICTURES TO TELL THE STORY?....bloody amazing.

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Sir Crook on Feb 21st, 2016 at 8:17am
TWU MEDIA RELEASE, 19 February 2016

The Transport Workers’ Union is calling for accountability of transport operators and companies which hire them, as a truck driver was cleared today of charges related to the deaths of two people in Mona Vale in 2013. 

Truck driver Shane Day had faced the serious charges in a Sydney court after his oil tanker turned over and went on fire in the horrific incident. The court heard it was a mechanical defect which caused the incident to occur. A nationwide audit of his employer Cootes found hundreds of defects in the trucking fleet. The fleet was grounded and the company was fined $500,000.

“The driver carried the entire burden for an industry in crisis when facing these charges. Neither the transport company nor the client whose fuel he was carrying were in the dock over corners they cut which led to safety risks,” said TWU National Secretary Tony Sheldon.   :(

“If someone is killed because a vehicle is not maintained properly or because the driver is pushed to work long hours then justice can only be served when those responsible are held to account,” Sheldon added.

Major retailers and manufacturers are continually cutting transport costs. This forces transport operators to spend less on their trucks, pressures drivers to break the law and cut their rates. Because of this trucks are not maintained, vehicles are over loaded and drivers are forced to skip breaks, drive faster, for longer hours in a stressed and tired state.   :(

This is why trucking is Australia’s deadliest profession with drivers 15 times more likely to die at work than any other profession. It is also the reason for 330 deaths every year in truck-related crashes.

The TWU has called for a national auditing, education and industrial rights fund paid into by all employers along the supply chain. This fund would ensure companies are meeting safety obligations and that those at the top of supply chains are being held to account for work carried out for them. The fund would also educate employers on their obligations while training drivers on safety and their rights at work.

“Responsibility for carnage on our roads needs to go all the way up the supply chain. Prosecutors, governments and regulators must look at the chain of responsibility laws and ensure they are capable of holding those ultimately to blame for the daily tragedies to account,” Sheldon added.

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 21st, 2016 at 8:24am

cods wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 7:51am:

miketrees wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 7:34am:
"We make no apology for delivering this blunt message to employers that they must do everything they can to protect the health and safety of their employees," Ms Amies said.

I work in safety, while the policies say otherwise our middle management are lazy phuckers who dont give a sh!t about safety.

Jail terms is the only answer




the consequences are never severe enough in some cases.

however I disagree its always the employers fault...

mike come to Canberra and just watch hoiw people use a pedestrian crossing.......almost to a one no one looks each way...the older they are the more they expect you to notice them.. its only a small thing.but at the end of the day...

we should always be taught to look after ourselves... dont expect someone else to do it for you..

I am amazed to think people now NEED PICTURES TO TELL THE STORY?....bloody amazing.


Yep, very true. Case in point - a bus driver recently died in Sydney after being crushed between his bus and another when he passed between them. He apparently either forgot or didn't bother to engage his brake, allowing the bus to roll backwards and crush him to death. That isn't the employer's fault in the least.

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Leftwinger on Feb 21st, 2016 at 8:52am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 8:24am:

cods wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 7:51am:

miketrees wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 7:34am:
"We make no apology for delivering this blunt message to employers that they must do everything they can to protect the health and safety of their employees," Ms Amies said.

I work in safety, while the policies say otherwise our middle management are lazy phuckers who dont give a sh!t about safety.

Jail terms is the only answer




the consequences are never severe enough in some cases.

however I disagree its always the employers fault...

mike come to Canberra and just watch hoiw people use a pedestrian crossing.......almost to a one no one looks each way...the older they are the more they expect you to notice them.. its only a small thing.but at the end of the day...

we should always be taught to look after ourselves... dont expect someone else to do it for you..

I am amazed to think people now NEED PICTURES TO TELL THE STORY?....bloody amazing.


Yep, very true. Case in point - a bus driver recently died in Sydney after being crushed between his bus and another when he passed between them. He apparently either forgot or didn't bother to engage his brake, allowing the bus to roll backwards and crush him to death. That isn't the employer's fault in the least.


Will they Engineer in a feature to the buses now to stop that happening again?

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by cods on Feb 21st, 2016 at 8:58am

Its time wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 8:52am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 8:24am:

cods wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 7:51am:

miketrees wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 7:34am:
"We make no apology for delivering this blunt message to employers that they must do everything they can to protect the health and safety of their employees," Ms Amies said.

I work in safety, while the policies say otherwise our middle management are lazy phuckers who dont give a sh!t about safety.

Jail terms is the only answer




the consequences are never severe enough in some cases.

however I disagree its always the employers fault...

mike come to Canberra and just watch hoiw people use a pedestrian crossing.......almost to a one no one looks each way...the older they are the more they expect you to notice them.. its only a small thing.but at the end of the day...

we should always be taught to look after ourselves... dont expect someone else to do it for you..

I am amazed to think people now NEED PICTURES TO TELL THE STORY?....bloody amazing.


Yep, very true. Case in point - a bus driver recently died in Sydney after being crushed between his bus and another when he passed between them. He apparently either forgot or didn't bother to engage his brake, allowing the bus to roll backwards and crush him to death. That isn't the employer's fault in the least.


Will they Engineer in a feature to the buses now to stop that happening again?



the  unions will probably organise a strike until they do.

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 21st, 2016 at 8:59am
To install a bench grinder or a pedestal drill at work -
reference to a 100 page document is required in each case.
There are so many regulations to follow -
they have gone overboard with OH&S.

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by cods on Feb 21st, 2016 at 9:05am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 8:59am:
To install a bench grinder or a pedestal drill at work -
reference to a 100 page document is required in each case.
There are so many regulations to follow -
they have gone overboard with OH&S.




thats the way they want it bobs.... its called RED TAPE..or obstruction...you need a degree to scratch your bum these days.

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Leftwinger on Feb 21st, 2016 at 9:08am

cods wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 8:58am:

Its time wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 8:52am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 8:24am:

cods wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 7:51am:
[quote author=miketrees link=1456003692/1#1 date=1456004070]"We make no apology for delivering this blunt message to employers that they must do everything they can to protect the health and safety of their employees," Ms Amies said.

I work in safety, while the policies say otherwise our middle management are lazy phuckers who dont give a sh!t about safety.

Jail terms is the only answer




the consequences are never severe enough in some cases.

however I disagree its always the employers fault...

mike come to Canberra and just watch hoiw people use a pedestrian crossing.......almost to a one no one looks each way...the older they are the more they expect you to notice them.. its only a small thing.but at the end of the day...

we should always be taught to look after ourselves... dont expect someone else to do it for you..

I am amazed to think people now NEED PICTURES TO TELL THE STORY?....bloody amazing.


Yep, very true. Case in point - a bus driver recently died in Sydney after being crushed between his bus and another when he passed between them. He apparently either forgot or didn't bother to engage his brake, allowing the bus to roll backwards and crush him to death. That isn't the employer's fault in the least.


Will they Engineer in a feature to the buses now to stop that happening again?



the  unions will probably organise a strike until they do.[/quote

Do you think it's acceptable that we have fatalities at work?

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 21st, 2016 at 9:14am

cods wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 9:05am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 8:59am:
To install a bench grinder or a pedestal drill at work -
reference to a 100 page document is required in each case.
There are so many regulations to follow -
they have gone overboard with OH&S.




thats the way they want it bobs.... its called RED TAPE..or obstruction...you need a degree to scratch your bum these days.



Only it takes about 2 days of paperwork & time to have a drill installed &
about 3 weeks before everyone has signed & approved the documents.

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Leftwinger on Feb 21st, 2016 at 9:24am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 8:59am:
To install a bench grinder or a pedestal drill at work -
reference to a 100 page document is required in each case.
There are so many regulations to follow -
they have gone overboard with OH&S.


If it saves a life or stops an injury then what's the problem ?

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 21st, 2016 at 9:27am

Its time wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 9:24am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 8:59am:
To install a bench grinder or a pedestal drill at work -
reference to a 100 page document is required in each case.
There are so many regulations to follow -
they have gone overboard with OH&S.


If it saves a life or stops an injury then what's the problem ?



Because basically if the operator is a fool then
no amount of regulations will prevent an injury.

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Leftwinger on Feb 21st, 2016 at 9:38am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 9:27am:

Its time wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 9:24am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 8:59am:
To install a bench grinder or a pedestal drill at work -
reference to a 100 page document is required in each case.
There are so many regulations to follow -
they have gone overboard with OH&S.


If it saves a life or stops an injury then what's the problem ?



Because basically if the operator is a fool then
no amount of regulations will prevent an injury.


Comes down to mentoring /training and proper supervision, you may know your way around a drill press , doesn't mean everybody else understands the hazards associated with using a particular piece of equipment .

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 21st, 2016 at 9:50am

Its time wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 8:52am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 8:24am:

cods wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 7:51am:

miketrees wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 7:34am:
"We make no apology for delivering this blunt message to employers that they must do everything they can to protect the health and safety of their employees," Ms Amies said.

I work in safety, while the policies say otherwise our middle management are lazy phuckers who dont give a sh!t about safety.

Jail terms is the only answer




the consequences are never severe enough in some cases.

however I disagree its always the employers fault...

mike come to Canberra and just watch hoiw people use a pedestrian crossing.......almost to a one no one looks each way...the older they are the more they expect you to notice them.. its only a small thing.but at the end of the day...

we should always be taught to look after ourselves... dont expect someone else to do it for you..

I am amazed to think people now NEED PICTURES TO TELL THE STORY?....bloody amazing.


Yep, very true. Case in point - a bus driver recently died in Sydney after being crushed between his bus and another when he passed between them. He apparently either forgot or didn't bother to engage his brake, allowing the bus to roll backwards and crush him to death. That isn't the employer's fault in the least.


Will they Engineer in a feature to the buses now to stop that happening again?


There is. It's the door interlock. When the door is open, it engages the brakes, stopping the bus from moving. This driver must have only put his bus in neutral, opened the door and got up from his seat before the interlock could fully engage and unfortunately the bus has rolled as a result. I drive buses part-time while I am studying at uni and on one occasion the bus door malfunctioned and opened while the bus was in motion doing 60km/h, bringing the bus to a screeching halt. Luckily I had no passengers onboard and no traffic around at the time. I closed the door once stopped and drove off again, only for the same thing to happen again after a few hundred metres. I managed to pull off to the side this time (last time I stopped in the middle of the lane on a two-way road) and called the depot for a tow because this problem couldn't be fixed on the side of the road.

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by miketrees on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:06am
Comes down to mentoring /training and proper supervision, you may know your way around a drill press , doesn't mean everybody else understands the hazards associated with using a particular piece of equipment .


Exactly right.

Its idiot bully managers that expect everyone to know everything without training.

They cost businesses money, the community money looking after injured people.

The problem with bad managers is that you can not train the bad attitudes out of them.
You can train for skill easily but attitudes are far more difficult.

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:16am

Its time wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 9:38am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 9:27am:

Its time wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 9:24am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 8:59am:
To install a bench grinder or a pedestal drill at work -
reference to a 100 page document is required in each case.
There are so many regulations to follow -
they have gone overboard with OH&S.


If it saves a life or stops an injury then what's the problem ?



Because basically if the operator is a fool then
no amount of regulations will prevent an injury.


Comes down to mentoring /training and proper supervision, you may know your way around a drill press , doesn't mean everybody else understands the hazards associated with using a particular piece of equipment .



In my workplace it has come down to
only one person who can use the drill press
because safety boots are required & the boss is not going to buy safety boots for every Tom Dick & Harry.
Also - only one person has enough experience to understand the 100 pages of rules.

The same happened with a 3 phase lathe in my previous workplace.
Now - that is very dangerous!
Only one person was allowed to use it -
a qualified fitter & turner with 20 years experience.

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Leftwinger on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:22am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:16am:

Its time wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 9:38am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 9:27am:

Its time wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 9:24am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 8:59am:
To install a bench grinder or a pedestal drill at work -
reference to a 100 page document is required in each case.
There are so many regulations to follow -
they have gone overboard with OH&S.


If it saves a life or stops an injury then what's the problem ?



Because basically if the operator is a fool then
no amount of regulations will prevent an injury.


Comes down to mentoring /training and proper supervision, you may know your way around a drill press , doesn't mean everybody else understands the hazards associated with using a particular piece of equipment .



In my workplace it has come down to
only one person who can use the drill press
because safety boots are required & the boss is not going to buy safety boots for every Tom Dick & Harry.
Also - only person has enough experience to understand the 100 pages of rules.

The same happened with a 3 phase lathe in my previous workplace.
Now - that is very dangerous!
Only one person was allowed to use it -
a qualified fitter & turner with 20 years experience.


A screwdriver is dangerous in the hands of an inexperienced operator , hence why we familiarize ourselves with the safe work instructions that accompany most tasks.

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:28am
Dear leftwinger -
so you're strongly in favor of extremely strict rules
& multiple layers of bureaucracy around OH&S?

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by BigOl64 on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:31am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:16am:
In my workplace it has come down to
only one person who can use the drill press
because safety boots are required & the boss is not going to buy safety boots for every Tom Dick & Harry.
Also - only one person has enough experience to understand the 100 pages of rules.


The low standard of the workplace that employs you says a lot about you as an employee.

It explains why your technical arguments are so poorly understood by you and based on bias rather than actual knowledge.


Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Leftwinger on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:33am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:28am:
Dear leftwinger -
so you're strongly in favor of extremely strict rules
& multiple layers of bureaucracy around OH&S?


You already know where I stand

Where does you Boss stand on it?

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:35am

Its time wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:28am:
Dear leftwinger -
so you're strongly in favor of extremely strict rules
& multiple layers of bureaucracy around OH&S?


You already know where I stand

Where does you Boss stand on it?



Stricter than strict - really overboard -

double or triple whatever the law is.

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:35am

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:31am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:16am:
In my workplace it has come down to
only one person who can use the drill press
because safety boots are required & the boss is not going to buy safety boots for every Tom Dick & Harry.
Also - only one person has enough experience to understand the 100 pages of rules.


The low standard of workplace that employs you says a lot about you as an employee.

It explains why your technical arguments are so poorly understood by you and based on bias rather than actual knowledge.



What on earth are you talking about?

You're a raving madman.

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Leftwinger on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:37am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:35am:

Its time wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:28am:
Dear leftwinger -
so you're strongly in favor of extremely strict rules
& multiple layers of bureaucracy around OH&S?


You already know where I stand

Where does you Boss stand on it?



Stricter than strict - really overboard -

double or triple whatever the law is.


So it's you that has the issue with safety in the workplace ?

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:38am

Its time wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:37am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:35am:

Its time wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:28am:
Dear leftwinger -
so you're strongly in favor of extremely strict rules
& multiple layers of bureaucracy around OH&S?


You already know where I stand

Where does you Boss stand on it?



Stricter than strict - really overboard -

double or triple whatever the law is.


So it's you that has the issue with safety in the workplace ?



No issues - I am saying that it reduces productivity with no gain in safety.

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by BigOl64 on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:43am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:35am:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:31am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:16am:
In my workplace it has come down to
only one person who can use the drill press
because safety boots are required & the boss is not going to buy safety boots for every Tom Dick & Harry.
Also - only one person has enough experience to understand the 100 pages of rules.


The low standard of workplace that employs you says a lot about you as an employee.

It explains why your technical arguments are so poorly understood by you and based on bias rather than actual knowledge.



What on earth are you talking about?

You're a raving madman.



I can always appreciate someone with such a low standard of education that even the most simple of concepts perplexes them into apoplexy.  ;D  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Your workplace does not even issue the most basic safety gear to your workers let alone trains them adequately to use entry level equipment. That says a lot about the p1ss poor professional standards at your workplace and the subsequent p1ss poor standards of the workers they employ.

Understand now, Einstein?



Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:47am

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:35am:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:31am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:16am:
In my workplace it has come down to
only one person who can use the drill press
because safety boots are required & the boss is not going to buy safety boots for every Tom Dick & Harry.
Also - only one person has enough experience to understand the 100 pages of rules.


The low standard of workplace that employs you says a lot about you as an employee.

It explains why your technical arguments are so poorly understood by you and based on bias rather than actual knowledge.



What on earth are you talking about?

You're a raving madman.



I can always appreciate someone with such a low standard of education that even the most simple of concepts perplexes them into apoplexy.  ;D  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Your workplace does not even issue the most basic safety gear to your workers let alone trains them adequately to use entry level equipment. That says a lot about the p1ss poor professional standards at your workplace and the subsequent p1ss poor standards of the workers they employ.

Understand now, Einstein?



Considering that most people might need to use a drill press for 5 minutes per year
then it's hardly surprising.

Don't make assumptions Big head.


Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Leftwinger on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:48am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:38am:

Its time wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:37am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:35am:

Its time wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:28am:
Dear leftwinger -
so you're strongly in favor of extremely strict rules
& multiple layers of bureaucracy around OH&S?


You already know where I stand

Where does you Boss stand on it?



Stricter than strict - really overboard -

double or triple whatever the law is.


So it's you that has the issue with safety in the workplace ?



No issues - I am saying that it reduces productivity with no gain in safety.


I suggest you snap out of it , it's part of your job , you're actually starting to agitate me thinking that there is people that work side by side with you on a daily basis with your attitude to safety.

Safety and all its red tape is so predominate in the work place because of the very attitude you have displayed here today. Nothing more dangerous in the workplace than a know it all.

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:51am

Its time wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:48am:
I suggest you snap out of it , it's part of your job , you're actually starting to agitate me thinking that there is people that work side by side with you on a daily basis with your attitude to safety.

Safety and all its red tape is so predominate in the work place because of the very attitude you have displayed here today. Nothing more dangerous in the workplace than a know it all.



I'm the safest person you've ever met in any workplace.
I follow the rules to the letter.

forgiven

namaste

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by BigOl64 on Feb 21st, 2016 at 11:06am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:47am:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:35am:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:31am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:16am:
In my workplace it has come down to
only one person who can use the drill press
because safety boots are required & the boss is not going to buy safety boots for every Tom Dick & Harry.
Also - only one person has enough experience to understand the 100 pages of rules.


The low standard of workplace that employs you says a lot about you as an employee.

It explains why your technical arguments are so poorly understood by you and based on bias rather than actual knowledge.



What on earth are you talking about?

You're a raving madman.



I can always appreciate someone with such a low standard of education that even the most simple of concepts perplexes them into apoplexy.  ;D  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Your workplace does not even issue the most basic safety gear to your workers let alone trains them adequately to use entry level equipment. That says a lot about the p1ss poor professional standards at your workplace and the subsequent p1ss poor standards of the workers they employ.

Understand now, Einstein?



Considering that most people might need to use a drill press for 5 minutes per year
then it's hardly surprising.

Don't make assumptions Big head.



I don't think you know what the hell you are talking about, unless you are some loser office johnny, (which I suspect in your case is true) you use a range of power tools (including drill presses) to conduct work, if you are in the trade or technical field.

It does reinforce my opinion of you not being very technically minded or capable.


Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 21st, 2016 at 11:09am
So Big Hole would buy safety boots for someone to drill one hole a year?

What a generous boss.

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by BigOl64 on Feb 21st, 2016 at 11:09am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:51am:
I'm the safest person you've ever met in any workplace.
I follow the rules to the letter.

forgiven

namaste


;D
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Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by BigOl64 on Feb 21st, 2016 at 11:13am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 11:09am:
So Big Hole would buy safety boots for someone to drill one hole a year?

What a generous boss.


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You are so friggin clueless about your lack of intellect it is friggin astounding.


What job requires a person to drill a single hole a year?

What do they do for the rest of the year after they have drilled that hole?


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by miketrees on Feb 21st, 2016 at 12:05pm
I am saying that it reduces productivity with no gain in safety.


Well I worked as safety manager for a cleaning company.

Most Drongoes think that there are no hazards in cleaning.

The fact is when I joined and had to battle with the fool managers their lost Time Injury Frequency Rate was 22 and the owner of the business showed me all the emails from the insurance companies that were refusing to insure the company.
No workers comp,,, no business .

How is that going to work with productivity?

When I left two years later the LTIFR was at 10 just below the industry benchmark and we retained our insurance.

Drongo middle management and feral employees who have never owned a business and never been held accountable have no idea.

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 21st, 2016 at 12:18pm

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 11:13am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 11:09am:
So Big Hole would buy safety boots for someone to drill one hole a year?

What a generous boss.


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You are so friggin clueless about your lack of intellect it is friggin astounding.


What job requires a person to drill a single hole a year?



Don't ask too many details.
It's none of your business - you nosey parker.

forgiven

namaste

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by BigOl64 on Feb 21st, 2016 at 12:43pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 12:18pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 11:13am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 11:09am:
So Big Hole would buy safety boots for someone to drill one hole a year?

What a generous boss.


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You are so friggin clueless about your lack of intellect it is friggin astounding.


What job requires a person to drill a single hole a year?



Don't ask too many details.
It's none of your business - you nosey parker.

forgiven

namaste


Nice recovery, from what looked like a very embarrassing position you had there.  ;D ;D ;D


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Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 21st, 2016 at 12:49pm
Big Hole,

dream of your F111's & how all those men died after cleaning fuel tanks.

As if you know about safety.  :D

forgiven

namaste

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by BigOl64 on Feb 21st, 2016 at 12:59pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 12:49pm:
Big Hole,

dream of your F111's & how all those men died after cleaning fuel tanks.

As if you know about safety.  :D

forgiven

namaste



You mean my mates that I worked with for 10 years, yeah, thanks for reminding me, you little grub troll.

Good to see you could still find a reason to use a smiley face emoji, while talking about the men and women who died serving this country. Well done grub.


But what would you expect from a grub coward like yourself. >:( >:( >:( >:(



Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 21st, 2016 at 1:02pm

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 12:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 12:49pm:
Big Hole,

dream of your F111's & how all those men died after cleaning fuel tanks.

As if you know about safety.  :D

forgiven

namaste



You mean my mates that I worked with for 10 years, yeah, thanks for reminding me, you little grub troll.

Good to see you could still find a reason to use a smiley face emoji, while talking about the men and women who died serving this country. Well done grub.


But what would you expect from a grub coward like yourself. >:( >:( >:( >:(



I've done more fighting for this country than you ever did.

forgiven

namaste

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by BigOl64 on Feb 21st, 2016 at 1:04pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 1:02pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 12:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 12:49pm:
Big Hole,

dream of your F111's & how all those men died after cleaning fuel tanks.

As if you know about safety.  :D

forgiven

namaste



You mean my mates that I worked with for 10 years, yeah, thanks for reminding me, you little grub troll.

Good to see you could still find a reason to use a smiley face emoji, while talking about the men and women who died serving this country. Well done grub.


But what would you expect from a grub coward like yourself. >:( >:( >:( >:(



I've done more fighting for this country than you ever did.

forgiven

namaste



You by your own admission are a coward and have achieved nothing ever, let alone served or fought for this or any other country.

You are a grub PoS coward and nothing more.



Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 21st, 2016 at 1:07pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blQZxzF4ZCk

World War 3 Could Start This Month 350,000 Soldiers In Saudi Arabia Stand Ready To Invade Syria.

I'll be helping Australia in this coming war.

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by BigOl64 on Feb 21st, 2016 at 1:34pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 1:07pm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blQZxzF4ZCk

World War 3 Could Start This Month 350,000 Soldiers In Saudi Arabia Stand Ready To Invade Syria.

I'll be helping Australia in this coming war.




You are coward and grub, your help is rejected as you are irrelevant to this country.


You would be knocked out cold the minute you opened you mouth, by anyone who is or has served in the ADF as no-one likes a deadsh1t who makes light of our fellow service men and women who have died in the service of this country.


So sit in the back with the women and child where you belong, grub.


Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 21st, 2016 at 1:36pm
Big Fool,
I was making light of you not our fellow servicemen:



Quote:
As if you know about safety.   :D



First of all - learn how to read.

Title: Re: Blood On The Carpet- 70 injured Every Day
Post by BigOl64 on Feb 21st, 2016 at 1:40pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 1:36pm:
Big Fool,
I was making light of you not our fellow servicemen:



Quote:
As if you know about safety.   :D



First of all - learn how to read.




Liar and too stupid to remember what you posted, ya grub.




Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 12:49pm:
Big Hole,

dream of your F111's & how all those men died after cleaning fuel tanks.

As if you know about safety.  :D

forgiven

namaste

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