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A VICTORIA Police taskforce has been ­investigating allegations that Cardinal ­George Pell sexually abused between five and 10 boys. Detectives from Sano Taskforce have compiled a dossier containing allegations that Cardinal Pell committed “multiple ­offences” when a priest in Ballarat and when archbishop of Melbourne. It has been alleged the 74-year-old, now in charge of finances at the Vatican in Rome, sexually abused minors by “both grooming and opportunity’’. The allegations span four decades, with the Ballarat-born cardinal accused of abusing children — now adults aged in their late 20s to early 50s — between 1978 and 2001.

now Cardinal Hell wants Dickhead Dan Andrews to shut the investigation..

And yet he has sanctuary in Rome

miketrees wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 7:45am:

And yet he has sanctuary in Rome

I always said that, that was his reward for years of covering up paedophilia within the church..

and now he's pulling a Christopher Skase..  >:(

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria-police-investigating-cardinal-pell/news-story/09609ca949fdb490842fd72d73faf779



Quote:

A VICTORIA Police taskforce has been ­investigating allegations that Cardinal ­George Pell sexually abused between five and 10 boys. Detectives from Sano Taskforce have compiled a dossier containing allegations that Cardinal Pell committed “multiple ­offences” when a priest in Ballarat and when archbishop of Melbourne. It has been alleged the 74-year-old, now in charge of finances at the Vatican in Rome, sexually abused minors by “both grooming and opportunity’’. The allegations span four decades, with the Ballarat-born cardinal accused of abusing children — now adults aged in their late 20s to early 50s — between 1978 and 2001. Legal sources have told the Herald Sun that more than a dozen detectives from Sano Taskforce — set up to probe allegations arising from the child abuse royal commission — have worked for the past year on the investigation, interviewing ­“numerous” alleged victims.

Wow - it's possible that George Hell is a pedophile.

Bobby,  do you reckon it's  worth a hang'em high?

double plus good wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 12:16pm:

Bobby,  do you reckon it's  worth a hang'em high?

Sure:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJqIbHT1-lM

A little bit of Dirty Harry Callahan street justice would really clean up the Catholic church.

double plus good wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 12:30pm:

A little bit of Dirty Harry Callahan street justice would really clean up the Catholic church.

Why can't the Catholics start burning all the pedophiles at the stake?

They were very good at that not so long ago:


http://www.cuttingedge.org/Inquisition_13_Burning.jpg

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 12:01pm:

miketrees wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 7:45am: And yet he has sanctuary in Rome I always said that, that was his reward for years of covering up paedophilia within the church.. and now he's pulling a Christopher Skase..  >:(

that's not the only thing he's been pulling :(

Look how vicious and preverted these priests can be :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMWjV2zRD3w

And.....now we have Pell's reply, complete with high moral ground condemnation of the "latest" accusations.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/cardinal-george-pells-full-statement-20160220-gmz45x.html

I wish someone in the media would call this for what it is.

What a confected media beatup.

Brendon wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 1:29pm:

What a confected media beatup.

Maybe he should come home and force the issue.

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 1:25pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 12:01pm: miketrees wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 7:45am: And yet he has sanctuary in Rome I always said that, that was his reward for years of covering up paedophilia within the church.. and now he's pulling a Christopher Skase..  >:( that's not the only thing he's been pulling :( Look how vicious and preverted these priests can be :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMWjV2zRD3w

He is probably just like Herb!

Cranky old coot!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 1:44pm:

Brendon wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 1:29pm: What a confected media beatup. Maybe he should come home and force the issue.

;) I'm sure he just wants to. lol

Reminds me of the time I got caught in a leagues club  making a speech that included racist slurs against Asians, Aboriginals, and Italians. And Mexicans. Anyhow, the next morning I'm sobering up and I'm with my media people and they say they have already inserted a false accusation against me in the morning papers of running over a crippled child in my Merc sports car. Apparently I'd already put out a press statement deriding the accusations and demanding people stop making slurs against me. The racist rant got buried, and commentators were lining up to defend me.

None of the above happened. But you get the drift.  ;D

Some dirty deeds are being dirt cheap.  This does offend my sense of Justice.  Damaging material gets published in the schmedia....and not one allegation ever put to Pell. Nah.

Link.

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 3:01pm:

Some dirty deeds are being dirt cheap.  This does offend my sense of Justice.  Damaging material gets published in the schmedia....and not one allegation ever put to Pell. Nah. Link.

The Murdoch media published it. Generally a big supporter of Pell. Within .00001 seconds Pell has refuted it, and the rest of the media is getting in behind the fact that the accusations are old and without foundation.

A variation of the Strawman argument.

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 3:01pm:

Some dirty deeds are being dirt cheap.  This does offend my sense of Justice.  Damaging material gets published in the schmedia....and not one allegation ever put to Pell. Nah. Link.

I was wondering when you'd turn up to defend your messiah aussie..

one week ago you said that there was not ONE allegation against that sick bastard Pell...

but now I have rammed at least a dozen down your throat...

but you are still coming up with excuses and grasping at straws to save face for your messiah..

you were once one of my favourite posters... but now you have plummeted to the bottom of the barrel with the likes of LTYC..  :-[

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 5:23pm:

[quote author=Aussie link=1455917743/14#14 date=1455944498]Some dirty deeds are being dirt cheap.  This does offend my sense of Justice.  Damaging material gets published in the schmedia....and not one allegation ever put to Pell. Nah. Link.

I was wondering when you'd turn up to defend your messiah aussie..

one week ago you said that there was not ONE allegation against that sick bastard Pell...

but now I have rammed at least a dozen down your throat...
.  :-[/quote]

That's sounding rather priestly ;)

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 5:23pm:

[quote author=Aussie link=1455917743/14#14 date=1455944498]Some dirty deeds are being dirt cheap.  This does offend my sense of Justice.  Damaging material gets published in the schmedia....and not one allegation ever put to Pell. Nah. Link.

I was wondering when you'd turn up to defend your messiah aussie..

one week ago you said that there was not ONE allegation against that sick bastard Pell...

but now I have rammed at least a dozen down your throat...

but you are still coming up with excuses and grasping at straws to save face for your messiah..

you were once one of my favourite posters... but now you have plummeted to the bottom of the barrel with the likes of LTYC..  :-[/quote]

Where do you get this stuff about Pell being my Messiah?  I dislike the bloke a great deal.

You've not rammed anything down my throat at all.  Someone has allegedly leaked information to the schmedia concerning an investigation not known to me until yesterday, and what is far more relevant.....not known to anyone in the public domain, including Pell.  This has all the hallmarks of a beat up timed to co-incide with Pell's appearance in front of the Royal Commission due, I think, later this month.

Among those quite alarmed about this will be the Royal Commissioners themselves.

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 5:31pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 5:23pm: [quote author=Aussie link=1455917743/14#14 date=1455944498]Some dirty deeds are being dirt cheap.  This does offend my sense of Justice.  Damaging material gets published in the schmedia....and not one allegation ever put to Pell. Nah. Link. I was wondering when you'd turn up to defend your messiah aussie.. one week ago you said that there was not ONE allegation against that sick bastard Pell... but now I have rammed at least a dozen down your throat... but you are still coming up with excuses and grasping at straws to save face for your messiah.. you were once one of my favourite posters... but now you have plummeted to the bottom of the barrel with the likes of LTYC..  :-[/quote] Where do you get this stuff about Pell being my Messiah?  I dislike the bloke a great deal. You've not rammed anything down my throat at all.  Someone has allegedly leaked information to the schmedia concerning an investigation not known to me until yesterday, and what is far more relevant.....not known to anyone in the public domain, including Pell.  This has all the hallmarks of a beat up timed to co-incide with Pell's appearance in front of the Royal Commission due, I think, later this month. Among those quite alarmed about this will be the Royal Commissioners themselves.

Or timed to be investigated vigorously where perhaps previously they were not?

GordyL wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 5:34pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 5:31pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 5:23pm: [quote author=Aussie link=1455917743/14#14 date=1455944498]Some dirty deeds are being dirt cheap.  This does offend my sense of Justice.  Damaging material gets published in the schmedia....and not one allegation ever put to Pell. Nah. Link. I was wondering when you'd turn up to defend your messiah aussie.. one week ago you said that there was not ONE allegation against that sick bastard Pell... but now I have rammed at least a dozen down your throat... but you are still coming up with excuses and grasping at straws to save face for your messiah.. you were once one of my favourite posters... but now you have plummeted to the bottom of the barrel with the likes of LTYC..  :-[/quote] Where do you get this stuff about Pell being my Messiah?  I dislike the bloke a great deal. You've not rammed anything down my throat at all.  Someone has allegedly leaked information to the schmedia concerning an investigation not known to me until yesterday, and what is far more relevant.....not known to anyone in the public domain, including Pell.  This has all the hallmarks of a beat up timed to co-incide with Pell's appearance in front of the Royal Commission due, I think, later this month. Among those quite alarmed about this will be the Royal Commissioners themselves. Or timed to be investigated vigorously where perhaps previously they were not?

I've often wondered how people decide to complain about something that happened 40-50 years ago. I find it all a bit too convenient, particularly this one.

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 1:25pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 12:01pm: miketrees wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 7:45am: And yet he has sanctuary in Rome I always said that, that was his reward for years of covering up paedophilia within the church.. and now he's pulling a Christopher Skase..  >:( that's not the only thing he's been pulling :( Look how vicious and preverted these priests can be :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMWjV2zRD3w

Top video sir Nail.

Longy should watch it.

So, has anyone here's had a run in with a pedo as a child or an adult.

I'll go first. I was groomed while at boarding school and it was simply chance I wasn't abused. One of my school friends was. Dead by 25 heroin OD.

If there is even a whiff a few molecules wide of a priest or authority figure abusing kids, I wasn't it investigated until there is not a shadow of a doubt about what happened.

I've seen how the wagons get circled and the blame get reversed.

Anyone else have a story?

lee wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 1:44pm:

Brendon wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 1:29pm: What a confected media beatup. Maybe he should come home and force the issue.

Pell has been doing a lot of forcing in his time by the sounds of it ;)

Bobby. wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 6:19pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 1:25pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 12:01pm: miketrees wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 7:45am: And yet he has sanctuary in Rome I always said that, that was his reward for years of covering up paedophilia within the church.. and now he's pulling a Christopher Skase..  >:( that's not the only thing he's been pulling :( Look how vicious and preverted these priests can be :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMWjV2zRD3w Top video sir Nail. Longy should watch it.

Top video showing how weak as piss all these skateboarders were ....

they need to ferked up the arze

was the priest in question a paedophile or suspected paedophile?

I bet not .... but these little drop kicks think they are brave in a mob.

If any one needed "f/*cking up" it was them.

When you are asked to leave private property ...LEAVE.

I bet they were chronic offenders.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 6:19pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 1:25pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 12:01pm: miketrees wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 7:45am: And yet he has sanctuary in Rome I always said that, that was his reward for years of covering up paedophilia within the church.. and now he's pulling a Christopher Skase..  >:( that's not the only thing he's been pulling :( Look how vicious and preverted these priests can be :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMWjV2zRD3w Top video sir Nail. Longy should watch it.

I thought that old priest was longloser :D LOL

I think you've onto something, Gordy. Follow in  the footsteps of the disciples, George, and make a sacrifice. Come home and face your accusers; it's what Jesus would do.

double plus good wrote on Feb 21^st, 2016 at 12:31am:

I think you've onto something, Gordy. Follow in  the footsteps of the disciples, George, and make a sacrifice. Come home and face your accusers; it's what Jesus would do.

If anything Pell should watch his back -

many Popes & other people died mysteriously in the Vatican!

How convenient if Pell disappeared?  ;)

double plus good wrote on Feb 21^st, 2016 at 12:31am:

I think you've onto something, Gordy. Follow in  the footsteps of the disciples, George, and make a sacrifice. Come home and face your accusers; it's what Jesus would do.

I think he should come home and look his accusers in the eye....and say they are lying...

if he doesnt do that.. then I for one will never believe him....

and that makes me sad.. as through all of this I never once ever thought he was capable of being one of the abusers.... :( :(

Bobby. wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 6:19pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 1:25pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 12:01pm: miketrees wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 7:45am: And yet he has sanctuary in Rome I always said that, that was his reward for years of covering up paedophilia within the church.. and now he's pulling a Christopher Skase..  >:( that's not the only thing he's been pulling :( Look how vicious and preverted these priests can be :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMWjV2zRD3w Top video sir Nail. Longy should watch it.

What about accepting all of Gods creatures? Seems like that charming priest missed that chapter in the book of sky fairies  ::)

Until someone charges Pell with an offence or comes out openly with allegations I believe the bloke deserves the presumption of innocence....Pell is old and doctors claim it would be dangerous for him to travel so we will likely never see the Cardinal in Australia again....Lets not forget Christopher Skase died not long after everyone claimed he was faking his illness???

:-? :-? :-?

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 21^st, 2016 at 10:12am:

Until someone charges Pell with an offence or comes out openly with allegations I believe the bloke deserves the presumption of innocence....Pell is old and doctors claim it would be dangerous for him to travel so we will likely never see the Cardinal in Australia again....Lets not forget Christopher Skase died not long after everyone claimed he was faking his illness??? :-? :-? :-?

Aren't you forgetting about all those poor little kids
who had their arses reamed out by sick & depraved priests?

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21^st, 2016 at 10:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 10:12am: Until someone charges Pell with an offence or comes out openly with allegations I believe the bloke deserves the presumption of innocence....Pell is old and doctors claim it would be dangerous for him to travel so we will likely never see the Cardinal in Australia again....Lets not forget Christopher Skase died not long after everyone claimed he was faking his illness??? :-? :-? :-? Aren't you forgetting about all those poor little kids who had their arses reamed out by sick & depraved priests?

This is fair enough.  The schmedia need their gnads kicked.

Link.


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Cardinal George Pell has written to Acting Victorian Police Minister Robin Scott asking for an inquiry into a "maliciously timed" leak concerning a police investigation into abuse allegations. Key points:     Pell writes to Victoria Police asking for probe into alleged investigation leak     Says "leak" was "maliciously timed" before royal commission testimony     Cardinal due to give evidence on February 29 from Rome A statement from Cardinal Pell's office said details of the allegations were published in the Herald Sun, and were "scandalous and utterly false"

The only solution:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDgZiyfRIdU

Latest news ABC24 -

George Pell to start giving his evidence in less than 2 hours.

That will be 8.00am Monday 29.2.16 our time  AEST &
10pm Sunday 28.2.16 Rome time.

double plus good wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 12:30pm:

A little bit of Dirty Harry Callahan street justice would really clean up the Catholic church.

"Go on - make my Dei" ...  :P

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 5:35am:

double plus good wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 12:30pm: A little bit of Dirty Harry Callahan street justice would really clean up the Catholic church. "Go on - make my Dei" ...  :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7Nci-GVuHE

Bobby. wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 5:31am:

Latest news ABC24 - George Pell to start giving his evidence in less than 2 hours. That will be 8.00am Monday 29.2.16 our time  AEST & 10pm Sunday 28.2.16 Rome time.

Unfortunately I'll be at work
but maybe I'll hear his confessions on the radio?

Notice that The Boston Globe which was the inspiration of the movie  Spotlight, which centres on the corruption of the Catholic Church in Boston is at the Vatican to report.


If you haven't seen Spotlight and you are interested in the endemic corruption of the Catholic Church go see it, it is riveting and brilliant.

Pell you lying flap

Victoria police force should arrest itself for allowing pedophilia to happen with offender impunity.

Victoria police must have received the book "policing for dummies" and a supply of bullet-proof footwear.

Bloody schmedia!  What sort of blatant harassment is this!!  Arseholes.

Limk.

George Pell: church had 'predisposition not to believe' children who complained about priests

In evidence to royal commission on child sex abuse, cardinal admitted he had been ‘strongly inclined’ to accept Catholic priests denials’ of allegations.


http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/feb/29/george-pell-church-made-enormous-mistakes-in-dealing-with-paedophile-priests

More from above link:


Furness focused on the crimes of Ballarat brothers Gerald Leo Fitzgerald, who was forced to resign from teaching and has since died, and Ted Dowlan, who was eventually jailed for offences against 31 boys.
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The boys who were abused by brothers Fitzgerald and Dowlan were referred to by other students as their “bum buddies”, the commission heard. Pell said he had never heard that term.

Pell said he was made aware Fitzgerald had swum naked with boy students.

“I had heard, at the break-up at the end of the year, they did swim naked.”

It was, Pell, said, common knowledge that the swimming incident had occurred. Pell said the incident was unusual, and an “imprudent” act but “no improprieties were ever alleged to me”.

It was put to Pell that Dowlan’s offending was also “common knowledge”, was also the subject of complaints by parents, and gossiping amongst students, who “sniggered” the brother was “touching the boys again”.

Pell said he only heard “fleeting rumours” to “misbehaviour by Dowlan which I concluded might have been paedophilic activity”.

He agreed that sexual offending at the school’s was known to a “significant number” of people in the community.

Aussie wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 3:46pm:

Bloody schmedia!  What sort of blatant harassment is this!!  Arseholes. Limk.

Yeah well, if he'd done the right thing all those years ago and wasn't a PEDOPHILE ENABLER then his sister wouldn't have to endure that horrible cruel and usual treatment of being harangued by the media for a whole 30 seconds.

What they did to his poor sister, questioning the poor old bird until she was almost out of breath is just so out of proportionally wrong compared to enabling priests to anally rape and tear open the rectums of young boys.

But it's ok, you defend good old Pell and his poor breathless sister.

Maybe you and she should have a nice cup of tea, an Iced Vo Vo and a good lie down because it's all getting so hard.

 

Quote:

AUSTRALIAN survivors of child sex abuse have slammed a key part of Cardinal Pell’s testimony to the Royal Commission, saying reports of brothers openly kissing children are “creepy at the very least.” Speaking about what he knew of pedophilic activities within the church, the 74-year-old described Brother Fitzgerald’s habit of openly kissing boys when they would leave school for the day as “eccentric.” “I think it’s alleged when some of the boys were leaving he would give them a kiss. He was a very strange, old-fashioned but good, teacher, things like that,” Cardinal Pell said. “He was an older man and I remember it being discussed and mentioned to me,” he said, adding there were reports the teacher had gone swimming naked with the boys which seemed “most unusual” but not untowards.

just a bit of bum sex.. but nothing "untowards"...  ::)

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 8:59pm:

Quote: AUSTRALIAN survivors of child sex abuse have slammed a key part of Cardinal Pell’s testimony to the Royal Commission, saying reports of brothers openly kissing children are “creepy at the very least.” Speaking about what he knew of pedophilic activities within the church, the 74-year-old described Brother Fitzgerald’s habit of openly kissing boys when they would leave school for the day as “eccentric.” “I think it’s alleged when some of the boys were leaving he would give them a kiss. He was a very strange, old-fashioned but good, teacher, things like that,” Cardinal Pell said. “He was an older man and I remember it being discussed and mentioned to me,” he said, adding there were reports the teacher had gone swimming naked with the boys which seemed “most unusual” but not untowards. just a bit of bum sex.. but nothing "untowards"...  ::)

More scandal tomorrow & for 2 times after that!

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 8:59pm:

Quote: AUSTRALIAN survivors of child sex abuse have slammed a key part of Cardinal Pell’s testimony to the Royal Commission, saying reports of brothers openly kissing children are “creepy at the very least.” Speaking about what he knew of pedophilic activities within the church, the 74-year-old described Brother Fitzgerald’s habit of openly kissing boys when they would leave school for the day as “eccentric.” “I think it’s alleged when some of the boys were leaving he would give them a kiss. He was a very strange, old-fashioned but good, teacher, things like that,” Cardinal Pell said. “He was an older man and I remember it being discussed and mentioned to me,” he said, adding there were reports the teacher had gone swimming naked with the boys which seemed “most unusual” but not untowards. just a bit of bum sex.. but nothing "untowards"...  ::)

Pell knew everything, he's going to feign memory loss.

He's scum and needs a bullet and I'd happily pay for a bullet for his apologists too.

GordyL wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 9:40pm:

Pell knew everything, he's going to feign memory loss. He's scum and needs a bullet and I'd happily pay for a bullet for his apologists too.

What if the legally authorised judge asked you to be the hangman
& offered $800 for a successful hanging outside the house of parliament?

Would you have the stomach to do the job?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDgZiyfRIdU

Bobby. wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 9:47pm:

GordyL wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 9:40pm: Pell knew everything, he's going to feign memory loss. He's scum and needs a bullet and I'd happily pay for a bullet for his apologists too. What if the legally authorised judge asked you to be the hangman & offered $800 for a successful hanging outside the house of parliament? Would you have the stomach to do the job? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDgZiyfRIdU

Hanging?  Pfft What now? Let me tell you what now. I'ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' black people, who'll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 9:47pm:

GordyL wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 9:40pm: Pell knew everything, he's going to feign memory loss. He's scum and needs a bullet and I'd happily pay for a bullet for his apologists too. What if the legally authorised judge asked you to be the hangman & offered $800 for a successful hanging outside the house of parliament? Would you have the stomach to do the job? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDgZiyfRIdU

No - I would not.  I am a professional, not an executioner.... and I believe there are many other ways of punishing wrongdoers than killing by state sanction, which is disgusting in itself and no better than the wrongdoer.

Down At Ye Olde Grapppler Gallows Pole.....

"Hear ye, Hear YE!   The miscreant before ye all is condemned to deathe.. and to be scheduled to be hung by Ye Necke until Deade... so help him, Lord!

As Ownere and Controllere of Ye Gallows Pole.... I rescinde his punishment dire, as is my Righte Sovereign under Lawe of Ye Privatisatione of Ye Punishments.... and commit him to Ye Majesty's Prison for servitude.. term to be determined by Ye Courtes at Lawe!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kBX0K9nxPc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye2N_2ce3QE

GordyL wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 9:55pm:

Hanging?  Pfft What now? Let me tell you what now. I'ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' black people, who'll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch.

You sound like a criminal -

I'm talking about a legal hanging  & if you can't tell the difference
then you'd better take off that badge right now.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 10:24pm:

GordyL wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 9:55pm: Hanging?  Pfft What now? Let me tell you what now. I'ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' black people, who'll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You sound like a criminal - I'm talking about a legal hanging  & if you can't tell the difference then you'd better take off that badge right now.

Ok then.  Yes I'd have no probs personally executing a pedo found guilty in a court of law

Bobby. wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 10:24pm:

GordyL wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 9:55pm: Hanging?  Pfft What now? Let me tell you what now. I'ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' black people, who'll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You sound like a criminal - I'm talking about a legal hanging  & if you can't tell the difference then you'd better take off that badge right now.

I think this is going a little bit too far.. sounds like the hue and cry of the hounds and hunters long before the verdict is in.... the man has four more days of testimony....

Until then.... you ain't nothing but a swamp-runnin' NIGGAR with a lynch mob behind ya.... and, Friend, that makes me real sad..... and downright mean.... we don;t do that swamp-runnin' lynchin' down here...

GordyL wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 10:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 10:24pm: GordyL wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 9:55pm: Hanging?  Pfft What now? Let me tell you what now. I'ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' black people, who'll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You sound like a criminal - I'm talking about a legal hanging  & if you can't tell the difference then you'd better take off that badge right now. Ok then.  Yes I'd have no probs personally executing a pedo found guilty in a court of law

And how does a paedo deserve hanging?  He ain't killed nobody.... and a few years with Bubba and the Boyz will sure straighten him out... he go straight every time that rod is inserted....... you ever seen a dog at the vet's having his temperature taken....?

If I put a gun in your hand and said "Blow his brains out." ....you'd quail.... it's not as easy as you think.

Now if them fine Victorian police-ers find that Cardinal Pell hisself did some fiddlin'... well, friend... I'd expect the man to jest hand hisself in an' take that punishment like a man... but I don't think he personally did any fiddlin'... but he might have to answer for not dealin' on them dudes that did... but, friends.. that ain't the same as handlin' some boy backstage from the great theatre o' the church, mind..... that's jest plain ignorance an' maybe choosin' ter not HEAR what he's bein' told by the Lord.. that some o' them good ol' boys is playing fancy with them kids.. and that ain't right, friends.

(damn - I do a fine Billy Jack)......

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 10:36pm:

GordyL wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 10:34pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 10:24pm: GordyL wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 9:55pm: Hanging?  Pfft What now? Let me tell you what now. I'ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' black people, who'll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You sound like a criminal - I'm talking about a legal hanging  & if you can't tell the difference then you'd better take off that badge right now. Ok then.  Yes I'd have no probs personally executing a pedo found guilty in a court of law And how does a paedo deserve hanging?  He ain't killed nobody.... and a few years with Bubba and the Boyz will sure straighten him out... he go straight every time that rod is inserted....... you ever seen a dog at the vet's having his temperature taken....? If I put a gun in your hand and said "Blow his brains out." ....you'd quail.... it's not as easy as you think.

Nah.  I've got the temperament.

GordyL wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 10:42pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 10:36pm: GordyL wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 10:34pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 10:24pm: GordyL wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 9:55pm: Hanging?  Pfft What now? Let me tell you what now. I'ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' black people, who'll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You sound like a criminal - I'm talking about a legal hanging  & if you can't tell the difference then you'd better take off that badge right now. Ok then.  Yes I'd have no probs personally executing a pedo found guilty in a court of law And how does a paedo deserve hanging?  He ain't killed nobody.... and a few years with Bubba and the Boyz will sure straighten him out... he go straight every time that rod is inserted....... you ever seen a dog at the vet's having his temperature taken....? If I put a gun in your hand and said "Blow his brains out." ....you'd quail.... it's not as easy as you think. Nah.  I've got the temperament.

Ain't nobody got that temperament, friend, lessen they's some form o' crazy.... them VA halls, friend, is jest filled with good men an' true what's killed someone..... you ain't the type... I can tell...

Late addition what you missed, friend... Ah's jest sayin' there...

Now if them fine Victorian police-ers find that Cardinal Pell hisself did some fiddlin'... well, friend... I'd expect the man to jest hand hisself in an' take that punishment like a man... but I don't think he personally did any fiddlin'... but he might have to answer for not dealin' on them dudes that did... but, friends.. that ain't the same as handlin' some boy backstage from the great theatre o' the church, mind..... that's jest plain ignorance an' maybe choosin' ter not HEAR what he's bein' told by the Lord.. that some o' them good ol' boys is playing fancy with them kids.. and that ain't right, friends.

(damn - I do a fine Billy Jack)......

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 10:36pm:

GordyL wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 10:34pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 10:24pm: GordyL wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 9:55pm: Hanging?  Pfft What now? Let me tell you what now. I'ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' black people, who'll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You sound like a criminal - I'm talking about a legal hanging  & if you can't tell the difference then you'd better take off that badge right now. Ok then.  Yes I'd have no probs personally executing a pedo found guilty in a court of law And how does a paedo deserve hanging?  He ain't killed nobody.... and a few years with Bubba and the Boyz will sure straighten him out... he go straight every time that rod is inserted....... you ever seen a dog at the vet's having his temperature taken....? If I put a gun in your hand and said "Blow his brains out." ....you'd quail.... it's not as easy as you think. Now if them fine Victorian police-ers find that Cardinal Pell hisself did some fiddlin'... well, friend... I'd expect the man to jest hand hisself in an' take that punishment like a man... but I don't think he personally did any fiddlin'... but he might have to answer for not dealin' on them dudes that did... but, friends.. that ain't the same as handlin' some boy backstage from the great theatre o' the church, mind..... that's jest plain ignorance an' maybe choosin' ter not HEAR what he's bein' told by the Lord.. that some o' them good ol' boys is playing fancy with them kids.. and that ain't right, friends. (damn - I do a fine Billy Jack)......

In Karnal county we has ourselves a rope dancing every Saturday night.
Yeah things are just fine in these here parts.
Yeee hawww

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 10:36pm:

And how does a paedo deserve hanging?

as slowly and painfully as possible

Bobby. wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 10:49pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 10:36pm: GordyL wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 10:34pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 10:24pm: GordyL wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 9:55pm: Hanging?  Pfft What now? Let me tell you what now. I'ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' black people, who'll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You sound like a criminal - I'm talking about a legal hanging  & if you can't tell the difference then you'd better take off that badge right now. Ok then.  Yes I'd have no probs personally executing a pedo found guilty in a court of law And how does a paedo deserve hanging?  He ain't killed nobody.... and a few years with Bubba and the Boyz will sure straighten him out... he go straight every time that rod is inserted....... you ever seen a dog at the vet's having his temperature taken....? If I put a gun in your hand and said "Blow his brains out." ....you'd quail.... it's not as easy as you think. Now if them fine Victorian police-ers find that Cardinal Pell hisself did some fiddlin'... well, friend... I'd expect the man to jest hand hisself in an' take that punishment like a man... but I don't think he personally did any fiddlin'... but he might have to answer for not dealin' on them dudes that did... but, friends.. that ain't the same as handlin' some boy backstage from the great theatre o' the church, mind..... that's jest plain ignorance an' maybe choosin' ter not HEAR what he's bein' told by the Lord.. that some o' them good ol' boys is playing fancy with them kids.. and that ain't right, friends. (damn - I do a fine Billy Jack)...... In Karnal county we has ourselves a rope dancing every Saturday night. Yeah things are just fine in these here parts. Yeee hawww

Sure thing, friend.. but thet's jest fer popular entertainment.......

John Smith wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 10:50pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 10:36pm: And how does a paedo deserve hanging? as slowly and painfully as possible

Yes - but that's by the balls... not necessarily by the neck until dead.... I'm sure a few of that kind could find a convenient torn sheet in a cell.... with a little help from their friends......

Down at Ye Olde Inquest....

"Now Prison Officer Plodd... when you found the deceased hanging by a thread... did you check to see that he was dead?"

"I certainly did, Yer 'Onnah!  I pulled on that torn sheet a few times... and he was certainly dead!  Then I cut the sheet with my knife and applied Non-CPR until help arrived.... the Ambulance service took fifty nine minutes to arrive, and could find no pulse and chose not to look for one......"

Why is it, do you think, that paedophiles don't consider that the community considers them the lowest of the low.. and that includes prison inmates, who call them 'rock spiders' and seek out any chance to give them a facial or more?

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 10:45pm:

Late addition what you missed, friend... Ah's jest sayin' there... Now if them fine Victorian police-ers find that Cardinal Pell hisself did some fiddlin'... well, friend... I'd expect the man to jest hand hisself in an' take that punishment like a man... but I don't think he personally did any fiddlin'... but he might have to answer for not dealin' on them dudes that did... but, friends.. that ain't the same as handlin' some boy backstage from the great theatre o' the church, mind..... that's jest plain ignorance an' maybe choosin' ter not HEAR what he's bein' told by the Lord.. that some o' them good ol' boys is playing fancy with them kids.. and that ain't right, friends. (damn - I do a fine Billy Jack)......

Do you think he took the job at the Vat to shake up the joint and stop the pedos pedding?

GordyL wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 10:53pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 29th, 2016 at 10:45pm: Late addition what you missed, friend... Ah's jest sayin' there... Now if them fine Victorian police-ers find that Cardinal Pell hisself did some fiddlin'... well, friend... I'd expect the man to jest hand hisself in an' take that punishment like a man... but I don't think he personally did any fiddlin'... but he might have to answer for not dealin' on them dudes that did... but, friends.. that ain't the same as handlin' some boy backstage from the great theatre o' the church, mind..... that's jest plain ignorance an' maybe choosin' ter not HEAR what he's bein' told by the Lord.. that some o' them good ol' boys is playing fancy with them kids.. and that ain't right, friends. (damn - I do a fine Billy Jack)...... Do you think he took the job at the Vat to shake up the joint and stop the pedos pedding?

I hope so.. and I'm no Catholic..... (my mother was)... and I hope he comes out and totally condemns those R-Soles...... as they rightly deserve.

There is no place in any honourable institution for that kind...... and they should be kicked out and outed immediately.

I don't think he is one himself... but let's wait on that... any person who has sacrificed his life for a holy cause would have to be shattered that so many have abused that position...

More revelations this morning starting at 8.00 am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 6:33am:

More revelations this morning starting at 8.00 am

it that 10pm Rome time bobby??...

this man is so cunning....selective memory  syndrome ::)

what timing what a blessing..

I am sorry to hear he has Pope Francis  blessing on all this as well..

he is a very sad example of the Church..

George Pell aka Sgt Shultz

from this mornings hearings

    Cardinal George Pell has faced continued questions on whether he knew about Ridsdale's crimes against children
    He has maintained he knew nothing, and says he was deceived by then Ballarat Bishop Ronald Mulkearns
    He said Ridsdale's offending was a "sad story" that was "not of much interest to me"



disgraceful.

John Smith wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 9:04am:

from this mornings hearings     Cardinal George Pell has faced continued questions on whether he knew about Ridsdale's crimes against children     He has maintained he knew nothing, and says he was deceived by then Ballarat Bishop Ronald Mulkearns     He said Ridsdale's offending was a "sad story" that was "not of much interest to me" disgraceful.

Disgraceful. And clever. You can't follow up on something with a person who had next to nothing to do with it.

Everyone kept the pedophile stuff away from Pell.

Pell must have had many strange moments walking into a room full priests as they all go quiet and start looking at their feet.

Ballarat 1970's

All the Ballarat Priests: Quick! It's the one moral man in all of the Catholic Church! (Pell)

Pell:      Ok, whats going on lads?

Priests: (chorus) Nothing, O Great One.

Pell:    Alright. Well, I'm going off to save the world. Be back shortly. (leaves)

Priest: (chorus) Gosh! That was close!!!

George Pell: The Man Who Wasn't There

George Pell has been met with howls of laughter and disbelief in the hearing room after his comment about paedophile priest Gerard Risdale offending in Inglewood:

“It’s a sad story and it wasn’t of much interest to me.”

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 11:10am:

George Pell has been met with howls of laughter and disbelief in the hearing room after his comment about paedophile priest Gerard Risdale offending in Inglewood: “It’s a sad story and it wasn’t of much interest to me.”

WTH... :o

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 11:38am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 11:10am: George Pell has been met with howls of laughter and disbelief in the hearing room after his comment about paedophile priest Gerard Risdale offending in Inglewood: “It’s a sad story and it wasn’t of much interest to me.” WTH... :o

Yep.  That's what he said.

http://indaily.com.au/news/2016/03/01/its-a-sad-story-and-it-wasnt-of-much-interest-to-me-pell/

George Pell drew gasps of disbelief from the Australian victims who have travelled to watch Pell answer question via video link.

When he stated, "that it was of little interest to me." when commenting on the activities of a corrupt Priest.

Pell's arrogance has to be seen to be believed. Apparently he believes he is above everything and also apparently was the only person in Ballarat unaware of the sexual perversion going on in the Catholic Church there.

Jesus wept.

red baron wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 12:17pm:

George Pell drew gasps of disbelief from the Australian victims who have travelled to watch Pell answer question via video link. When he stated, "that it was of little interest to me." when commenting on the activities of a corrupt Priest. Pell's arrogance has to be seen to be believed. Apparently he believes he is above everything and also apparently was the only person in Ballarat unaware of the sexual perversion going on in the Catholic Church there. Jesus wept.

Oh!  Why total inaction by the Coppers, then?

F.....d if I know Aussie, why don't you ask the Ballarat Coppers that question?

red baron wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 12:38pm:

F.....d if I know Aussie, why don't you ask the Ballarat Coppers that question?

Perhaps the Royal Commission should, ey?

Listened to him a bit the last two days.

Very careful what he says. Very hard to pin down. Gets annoyed when cornered. Throwing a willing  Bishop Mulkearns under the bus. Good ol' Mulkearns, taking one for the team. Pell was his advisor and everyone knew the rumours, at least. But not Pell. And the Bishop to kept it from him. And Pell has had a dramatic rise up the greasy pole as well.

Very believable.

Would like to know who Pell paid visits to last time he was in Oz. Contact anyone in prison?

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 11:38am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 11:10am: George Pell has been met with howls of laughter and disbelief in the hearing room after his comment about paedophile priest Gerard Risdale offending in Inglewood: “It’s a sad story and it wasn’t of much interest to me.” WTH... :o

wasn’t of much interest to me.


Pell will burn forever in hell fire & damnation.

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 11:10am:

George Pell has been met with howls of laughter and disbelief in the hearing room after his comment about paedophile priest Gerard Risdale offending in Inglewood: “It’s a sad story and it wasn’t of much interest to me.”

He has the important "Sgt Shultz" stuff down pat. That stuff will get him off the hook. But the actual human responses, he doesn't have a clue.

Brendon wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 11:05am:

Disgraceful. And clever. You can't follow up on something with a person who had next to nothing to do with it. Everyone kept the pedophile stuff away from Pell.

I don't believe that ... he knew exactly what was going on and he helped hide it. If they kept it from him why did he run and hide in rome?

John Smith wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 5:15pm:

Brendon wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 11:05am: Disgraceful. And clever. You can't follow up on something with a person who had next to nothing to do with it. Everyone kept the pedophile stuff away from Pell. I don't believe that ... he knew exactly what was going on and he helped hide it. If they kept it from him why did he run and hide in rome?

I'm not going to actively defend Pell, but there could have been many reasons he went to Rome, including but not exclusively sanctuary.

Aussie wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 5:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 5:15pm: Brendon wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 11:05am: Disgraceful. And clever. You can't follow up on something with a person who had next to nothing to do with it. Everyone kept the pedophile stuff away from Pell. I don't believe that ... he knew exactly what was going on and he helped hide it. If they kept it from him why did he run and hide in rome? I'm not going to actively defend Pell, but there could have been many reasons he went to Rome, including but not exclusively sanctuary.

there could have, but luckily for him he didn't need any of those reasons. He already had one

Aussie wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 5:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 5:15pm: Brendon wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 11:05am: Disgraceful. And clever. You can't follow up on something with a person who had next to nothing to do with it. Everyone kept the pedophile stuff away from Pell. I don't believe that ... he knew exactly what was going on and he helped hide it. If they kept it from him why did he run and hide in rome? I'm not going to actively defend Pell, but there could have been many reasons he went to Rome, including but not exclusively sanctuary.

He went there to look after the money -

it's all about money.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 4:44pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 11:38am: greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 11:10am: George Pell has been met with howls of laughter and disbelief in the hearing room after his comment about paedophile priest Gerard Risdale offending in Inglewood: “It’s a sad story and it wasn’t of much interest to me.” WTH... :o wasn’t of much interest to me. Pell will burn forever in hell fire & damnation.

unbelievable..

to speak like that in front of those who were abused.. is beyond belief..

shame on you MR Pell...you are as bad as those you pretend to condemn...

I guess you were too busy to  notice the tears in the eyes of those men.....

well most Australians werent..

shame on you and shame on the Church..

this stench will never go away.

Brendon wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 4:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 11:10am: George Pell has been met with howls of laughter and disbelief in the hearing room after his comment about paedophile priest Gerard Risdale offending in Inglewood: “It’s a sad story and it wasn’t of much interest to me.” He has the important "Sgt Shultz" stuff down pat.

Absolutely.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo

Cods, get real here.  If I had done nothing, was completely innocent of any wrongdoing or knowledge of it, then what would you expect of me.  A false confession just because there were people crying?

Bobby. wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 5:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 5:22pm: John Smith wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 5:15pm: Brendon wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 11:05am: Disgraceful. And clever. You can't follow up on something with a person who had next to nothing to do with it. Everyone kept the pedophile stuff away from Pell. I don't believe that ... he knew exactly what was going on and he helped hide it. If they kept it from him why did he run and hide in rome? I'm not going to actively defend Pell, but there could have been many reasons he went to Rome, including but not exclusively sanctuary. He went there to look after the money - it's all about money.

always has been about money when it comes to organized religion.

cods wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 5:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 4:44pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 11:38am: greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 11:10am: George Pell has been met with howls of laughter and disbelief in the hearing room after his comment about paedophile priest Gerard Risdale offending in Inglewood: “It’s a sad story and it wasn’t of much interest to me.” WTH... :o wasn’t of much interest to me. Pell will burn forever in hell fire & damnation. unbelievable.. to speak like that in front of those who were abused.. is beyond belief.. shame on you MR Pell...you are as bad as those you pretend to condemn... I guess you were too busy to  notice the tears in the eyes of those men..... well most Australians werent.. shame on you and shame on the Church.. this stench will never go away.

Pell seems to a dottering old fool these days..

he is a hollow man with no empathy and emotionally retarded...

I don't know how he can remember anything that happened back in the 60s and 70s...

Paedophilia wasn't talked about back then and was buried..

not only by the Church, but by parents as well...

I have heard a number of stories whereby kids told their parents about their abuse only to be told to "hush up"

are these parents going to be brought to justice as well???

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 8:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 5:36pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 5:22pm: John Smith wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 5:15pm: Brendon wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 11:05am: Disgraceful. And clever. You can't follow up on something with a person who had next to nothing to do with it. Everyone kept the pedophile stuff away from Pell. I don't believe that ... he knew exactly what was going on and he helped hide it. If they kept it from him why did he run and hide in rome? I'm not going to actively defend Pell, but there could have been many reasons he went to Rome, including but not exclusively sanctuary. He went there to look after the money - it's all about money. always has been about money when it comes to organized religion.

Yes sir Nail,
it's about the church limiting the financial payouts to victims.

Aussie wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 12:30pm:

red baron wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 12:17pm: George Pell drew gasps of disbelief from the Australian victims who have travelled to watch Pell answer question via video link. When he stated, "that it was of little interest to me." when commenting on the activities of a corrupt Priest. Pell's arrogance has to be seen to be believed. Apparently he believes he is above everything and also apparently was the only person in Ballarat unaware of the sexual perversion going on in the Catholic Church there. Jesus wept. Oh!  Why total inaction by the Coppers, then?

many blessings ,

it is because they are freemasons that control both

do you deny it ?

im interested for all high ranking police are freemasons ,

along with magistrates solicitors politicians priests clerics bisiness leaders ceo's bankers et al

facts are truths

namaste

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 6:40am:

cods wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 5:56pm: Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 4:44pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 11:38am: greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 11:10am: George Pell has been met with howls of laughter and disbelief in the hearing room after his comment about paedophile priest Gerard Risdale offending in Inglewood: “It’s a sad story and it wasn’t of much interest to me.” WTH... :o wasn’t of much interest to me. Pell will burn forever in hell fire & damnation. unbelievable.. to speak like that in front of those who were abused.. is beyond belief.. shame on you MR Pell...you are as bad as those you pretend to condemn... I guess you were too busy to  notice the tears in the eyes of those men..... well most Australians werent.. shame on you and shame on the Church.. this stench will never go away. Pell seems to a dottering old fool these days.. he is a hollow man with no empathy and emotionally retarded... I don't know how he can remember anything that happened back in the 60s and 70s... Paedophilia wasn't talked about back then and was buried.. not only by the Church, but by parents as well... I have heard a number of stories whereby kids told their parents about their abuse only to be told to "hush up" are these parents going to be brought to justice as well???

I think you will find there are many estranged families due to that very thing ..........


the church on the other hand.. ALLOWED these mongrels to move and keep doign what they did best..

as has come out this morning ... those in charge were protecting the CHURCH bugger the kids..

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 7:35am:

Quote: A VICTORIA Police taskforce has been ­investigating allegations that Cardinal ­George Pell sexually abused between five and 10 boys. Detectives from Sano Taskforce have compiled a dossier containing allegations that Cardinal Pell committed “multiple ­offences” when a priest in Ballarat and when archbishop of Melbourne. It has been alleged the 74-year-old, now in charge of finances at the Vatican in Rome, sexually abused minors by “both grooming and opportunity’’. The allegations span four decades, with the Ballarat-born cardinal accused of abusing children — now adults aged in their late 20s to early 50s — between 1978 and 2001.

So Cardinal Pell is also a pedophile.

athos wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 9:04am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 7:35am: Quote: A VICTORIA Police taskforce has been ­investigating allegations that Cardinal ­George Pell sexually abused between five and 10 boys. Detectives from Sano Taskforce have compiled a dossier containing allegations that Cardinal Pell committed “multiple ­offences” when a priest in Ballarat and when archbishop of Melbourne. It has been alleged the 74-year-old, now in charge of finances at the Vatican in Rome, sexually abused minors by “both grooming and opportunity’’. The allegations span four decades, with the Ballarat-born cardinal accused of abusing children — now adults aged in their late 20s to early 50s — between 1978 and 2001. So Cardinal Pell is also a pedophile.

No. They are saying he knew about peddo priests. Learn to read.

Been watching him on TV, can't stop watching.

I wish I was religious then I would have faith that he will burn in hell.

Pell is like some Dinosaur rejecting that his world has changed. All I can see is denial, denial, denial.

That sack is going down, it's just a matter of time.

Those Victorian investigations are dead serious, if they are truthful then he is dead in the water.

I believe those enquiries will be sustained, call it instinct.

Taken a long time for the truth to surface but funny isn't it.  It does even if it takes decades.


A representation of Cardinal Pell

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red baron wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 12:05pm:

Pell is like some Dinosaur rejecting that his world has changed. All I can see is denial, denial, denial. That sack is going down, it's just a matter of time. Those Victorian investigations are dead serious, if they are truthful then he is dead in the water. I believe those enquiries will be sustained, call it instinct. Taken a long time for the truth to surface but funny isn't it.  It does even if it takes decades. A representation of Cardinal Pell

What does you infamous instinct tell you about what he could possibly be charged with?

All I'm saying is that there are more than a few allegations involved against  Pell.

Seem to remember I called it early on Rolf Harris. Must have crapped you off no end when I was vindicated Aussie.  You resisted all the way on that one. Can't win 'em all huh?

red baron wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 12:35pm:

All I'm saying is that there are more than a few allegations involved against  Pell. Seem to remember I called it early on Rolf Harris. Must have crapped you off no end when I was vindicated Aussie.  You resisted all the way on that one. Can't win 'em all huh?

I don't recall getting involved in the Rolf Harris debate other than to state my long held and oft expressed view that charging old men with offences committed a long time ago is charging the wrong bloke ~ no-one is the same person they were in the early years when they in the 70s, 80s and 90s.

I also don't recall you being involved in that debate much either.


Quote:

All I'm saying is that there are more than a few allegations involved against  Pell.

What is this sack which is going down and what do you mean by 'going down?'

red baron wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 12:35pm:

All I'm saying is that there are more than a few allegations involved against  Pell.

Could you be a little more vague, please?

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 9:05am:

athos wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 9:04am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 7:35am: Quote: A VICTORIA Police taskforce has been ­investigating allegations that Cardinal ­George Pell sexually abused between five and 10 boys. Detectives from Sano Taskforce have compiled a dossier containing allegations that Cardinal Pell committed “multiple ­offences” when a priest in Ballarat and when archbishop of Melbourne. It has been alleged the 74-year-old, now in charge of finances at the Vatican in Rome, sexually abused minors by “both grooming and opportunity’’. The allegations span four decades, with the Ballarat-born cardinal accused of abusing children — now adults aged in their late 20s to early 50s — between 1978 and 2001. So Cardinal Pell is also a pedophile. No. They are saying he knew about peddo priests. Learn to read.

Pell comes from an era where LOTS of people knew about child sex going on and did nothing about it. Police, teachers, general populace all knew what was going on but chose to ignore. The entire society is actually on trial from that period - or should be. How does large-scale sexual abuse go on almost in public without a large number of people knowing? IT DOESNT. The conspiracy of silence covered millions of ordinary australians who pretended it wasnt happening or worse, that it was just part of life.

Gee if I had a dollar for every offender who said "I don't recall" in the witness box.

Doesn't matter Aussie, it's fine, main thing was that dirty perv Harris went down.

Wish I could feel as sure about Pell but he DOES have the Pope's ear. And that's ONE BLOODY BIG EAR!

red baron wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 12:43pm:

Gee if I had a dollar for every offender who said "I don't recall" in the witness box. Doesn't matter Aussie, it's fine, main thing was that dirty perv Harris went down. Wish I could feel as sure about Pell but he DOES have the Pope's ear. And that's ONE BLOODY BIG EAR!

Mr Baron what was that degree you had when you graduated as a Police Office?  I have a recollection of you saying something about it, but the specifics escape me.

Pell is a lying prick.  He knows it, the victims know it, everyone who watched him give evidence knows it, the pope knows it.

As far as charges go, conspiring to not report a serious crime ... must be a crime.

He failed to report what sounds like dozens of serious crimes, to protect the Assets of the church.  Serious crime.  He appears then, to be a criminal.

red baron wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 12:43pm:

Gee if I had a dollar for every offender who said "I don't recall" in the witness box. Doesn't matter Aussie, it's fine, main thing was that dirty perv Harris went down. Wish I could feel as sure about Pell but he DOES have the Pope's ear. And that's ONE BLOODY BIG EAR!

So what does the popes ear have to do with criminal activity in Australia?

Pressure...that's what. Don't think it goes on?

Well we just saw Margaret Cunneen QC Deputy Crown Prosecutor of New South Wales get a 'Get of gaol free card' compliments of the High Court and two other Courts on the way..in regard to an allegation of 'pervert the course of justice' by the I.C.A.C.

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Aussie wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 6:00pm:

Cods, get real here.  If I had done nothing, was completely innocent of any wrongdoing or knowledge of it, then what would you expect of me.  A false confession just because there were people crying?

so you claim he is innocent of any knowledge..

really???.. how do you know that?..

not because he said so surely??>.



people crying.. god forbid this should affect his memory..

he didnt do a thing to protect his flock.. >:( >:( >:(

ignorance is the perfect excuse.. lets see who can I blame for that this week.. ::) ::)

I am sure Jesus will forgive him though Pope Francis will put in a good word for him

no need to panic aussie..

I could not stop watching TV today.  I am not religious, but I see him as the manifestation of the devil.  Evil personified, I hope he is suffering and that he will suffer a lot more before he dies.

I was equally pleased and piss-off that it is continuing tomorrow because I cannot help but watch it.  Even his tone of voice is annoying, condescendance in every syllable.

Bastard.

red baron wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 5:04pm:

Pressure...that's what. Don't think it goes on? Well we just saw Margaret Cunneen QC Deputy Crown Prosecutor of New South Wales get a 'Get of gaol free card' compliments of the High Court and two other Courts on the way..in regard to an allegation of 'pervert the course of justice' by the I.C.A.C.

Mr Baron......I asked this of you:


Quote:

Mr Baron what was that degree you had when you graduated as a Police Office?  I have a recollection of you saying something about it, but the specifics escape me.

Cods, I am not one to panic in any situation.  I don't give a flying fig about Pell.  I will (and did) comment that any innocent man (not saying Pell is) is not about to falsely confess just because an alleged victim is bawling their eyes out in front of him.

Just to give you a bit more to have a go at me about........I reckon the behaviour in Rome of the victims and their feeding the schmedia is appalling.  That's not why the Public made donations so they could be there, and they seem completely unaware of their complete irrelevance to what is happening in Rome.   Now, they've lost interest in eyeballing Pell (gee....who'd a thought that was ever going to be anything other than a waste of time) and want a meeting with the Pope.  I reckon that will probably happen, and if it does....he'll wave some Holy Water over them, give them all a  'bless you,' wave them goodbye and then completely forget them.

cods wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 8:55am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 6:40am: cods wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 5:56pm: Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 4:44pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 11:38am: greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 11:10am: George Pell has been met with howls of laughter and disbelief in the hearing room after his comment about paedophile priest Gerard Risdale offending in Inglewood: “It’s a sad story and it wasn’t of much interest to me.” WTH... :o wasn’t of much interest to me. Pell will burn forever in hell fire & damnation. unbelievable.. to speak like that in front of those who were abused.. is beyond belief.. shame on you MR Pell...you are as bad as those you pretend to condemn... I guess you were too busy to  notice the tears in the eyes of those men..... well most Australians werent.. shame on you and shame on the Church.. this stench will never go away. Pell seems to a dottering old fool these days.. he is a hollow man with no empathy and emotionally retarded... I don't know how he can remember anything that happened back in the 60s and 70s... Paedophilia wasn't talked about back then and was buried.. not only by the Church, but by parents as well... I have heard a number of stories whereby kids told their parents about their abuse only to be told to "hush up" are these parents going to be brought to justice as well??? I think you will find there are many estranged families due to that very thing .......... the church on the other hand.. ALLOWED these mongrels to move and keep doign what they did best.. as has come out this morning ... those in charge were protecting the CHURCH bugger the kids..

yes.. the church certainly institutionalised it..

There was a really weird comment by the Judge running the RC today.  He made a point that the parents of those abused did not want the matter dealt with by the criminal justice system.  Pell responded by saying those same parents did not want the Church to enquire either.

Then, that Judge opined that the waiver of the parents did not extinguish the duty of the Church to investigate, and he was quite right.

But, how come he is ignoring the obligation of the Coppers who also had a (higher) duty to prosecute crimes against children notwithstanding the wishes of the parents.

One expectation of the Church, and no expectation of the State Coppers.

That is raw hypocrisy within the RC.

random wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 1:31pm:

Pell is a lying prick.  He knows it, the victims know it, everyone who watched him give evidence knows it, the pope knows it. As far as charges go, conspiring to not report a serious crime ... must be a crime. He failed to report what sounds like dozens of serious crimes, to protect the Assets of the church.  Serious crime.  He appears then, to be a criminal.

" conspiring to not report a serious crime ... must be a crime. "

You would hope so but is it?

Our resident lawyer "Aussie" should know.

For once we are on the same side of the fence Aussie!

red baron wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 5:58pm:

For once we are on the same side of the fence Aussie!

Please stop ignoring this.  It is an itch I want to get rid of.


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Mr Baron what was that degree you had when you graduated as a Police Office?  I have a recollection of you saying something about it, but the specifics escape me.

Aussie your remark about degrees..well coppers have them now, before they even walk out to do a day's Policing.

However when I entered the Police it was three months training at Redfern Police Academy and then out onto the streets.

That doesn't mean I didn't learn things along the way.  I went to the Traffic Adjudication Section where I specialised in Traffic Law and the application of the law to serious accidents and driving offences.

That's where I really learned how to read and understand the finer points of Acts of Parliament and the interpretation therof.

I am disgusted at your attitude that because Police Officers don't wear wigs and have a law degree under their arms, they don't understand the Law.

Unfortunately you are like most lawyers who believe they are God's gifts. But I have seen numerous lawyers getting thousands a day and I wouldn't feed the b.stards.

Now you can answer on this post if you like where Meg Latham went wrong in the application of Section 8.2 of the I.C.A.C. Act. (For those who don't know what I'm talking about read the Margaret Cunneen post on page 2 I believe)

Seeing that you have put a fire hose on my qualifications to comment on points of law. It's not bloody rocket science, if you are well read then you can read an Act of Parliament and understand it.

This bloody myth about lawyers, struth most of the QC,s are overpaid actors in a wig and gown. There are the good ones though.

Ah, okay, Mr Baron, so you did not graduate as a Police Officer with a University degree?  Do they all now graduate as a Police Officer with a University degree?  Has it ever been the case that every graduating Police Officer also had at that time of Police Graduation, a Uni degree? 

Bobby. wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 5:54pm:

random wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 1:31pm: Pell is a lying prick.  He knows it, the victims know it, everyone who watched him give evidence knows it, the pope knows it. As far as charges go, conspiring to not report a serious crime ... must be a crime. He failed to report what sounds like dozens of serious crimes, to protect the Assets of the church.  Serious crime.  He appears then, to be a criminal. " conspiring to not report a serious crime ... must be a crime. " You would hope so but is it? Our resident lawyer "Aussie" should know.

Ignored by Aussie.  :'(

Bobby. wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 6:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 5:54pm: random wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 1:31pm: Pell is a lying prick.  He knows it, the victims know it, everyone who watched him give evidence knows it, the pope knows it. As far as charges go, conspiring to not report a serious crime ... must be a crime. He failed to report what sounds like dozens of serious crimes, to protect the Assets of the church.  Serious crime.  He appears then, to be a criminal. " conspiring to not report a serious crime ... must be a crime. " You would hope so but is it? Our resident lawyer "Aussie" should know. Ignored by Aussie.  :'(

Not ignored at all.  I don't know the Law in Victoria.

Aussie wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 6:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 6:44pm: Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 5:54pm: random wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 1:31pm: Pell is a lying prick.  He knows it, the victims know it, everyone who watched him give evidence knows it, the pope knows it. As far as charges go, conspiring to not report a serious crime ... must be a crime. He failed to report what sounds like dozens of serious crimes, to protect the Assets of the church.  Serious crime.  He appears then, to be a criminal. " conspiring to not report a serious crime ... must be a crime. " You would hope so but is it? Our resident lawyer "Aussie" should know. Ignored by Aussie.  :'( Not ignored at all.  I don't know the Law in Victoria.

How about the law in your state?

Sir Bobby, I'm certain there will be accomplice provisions up here, and maybe even conspiracy stuff which might include the actions of anyone who attempted to hide the commission of an offence not committed by them.

Aussie wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 7:29pm:

Sir Bobby, I'm certain there will be accomplice provisions up here, and maybe even conspiracy stuff which might include the actions of anyone who attempted to hide the commission of an offence not committed by them.

Well then it's time that Pell faced a trial.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 7:43pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 7:29pm: Sir Bobby, I'm certain there will be accomplice provisions up here, and maybe even conspiracy stuff which might include the actions of anyone who attempted to hide the commission of an offence not committed by them. Well then it's time that Pell faced a trial.

You'd need evidence of an offence, Sir Bobby.  I've said this a zillion times here, and I'll say it again.  Nothing said from the Witness Box to a Royal Commission (where there is compulsion to answer) can be used as evidence in any Trial against anyone.

It's ok. The bird was dead

Bobby. wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 7:43pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 7:29pm: Sir Bobby, I'm certain there will be accomplice provisions up here, and maybe even conspiracy stuff which might include the actions of anyone who attempted to hide the commission of an offence not committed by them. Well then it's time that Pell faced a trial.

A trial?

Why not just hang him at noon, out front of the Sydney Town Hall?

red baron wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 6:12pm:

Aussie your remark about degrees..well coppers have them now, before they even walk out to do a day's Policing. However when I entered the Police it was three months training at Redfern Police Academy and then out onto the streets. That doesn't mean I didn't learn things along the way.  I went to the Traffic Adjudication Section where I specialised in Traffic Law and the application of the law to serious accidents and driving offences. That's where I really learned how to read and understand the finer points of Acts of Parliament and the interpretation therof. I am disgusted at your attitude that because Police Officers don't wear wigs and have a law degree under their arms, they don't understand the Law. Unfortunately you are like most lawyers who believe they are God's gifts. But I have seen numerous lawyers getting thousands a day and I wouldn't feed the b.stards. Now you can answer on this post if you like where Meg Latham went wrong in the application of Section 8.2 of the I.C.A.C. Act. (For those who don't know what I'm talking about read the Margaret Cunneen post on page 2 I believe) Seeing that you have put a fire hose on my qualifications to comment on points of law. It's not bloody rocket science, if you are well read then you can read an Act of Parliament and understand it. This bloody myth about lawyers, struth most of the QC,s are overpaid actors in a wig and gown. There are the good ones though.

an awful lot of lawyers are crooked red.. so dont worry about a wannabee. if he could be..

the police have to do a lot better these days to get through the Academy and I agree aussie should be bloody ashamed of himself the way he tries to pull them down ..

how many judges have fallen by the wayside... they are so far from perfect...yet we are supposed to cow tow to them as if they are special.. remember the thread when gweggy and aussie fell all over the  Baden Clay Appeal court judge.. I bet they cant even remember her name...without a google...snobs....must think it improves them... ;D ;D ;D..

lawyers have always been second to used car salesmen....

ye gods they are employed by gangsters..and drug runners..

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 8:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 7:43pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 7:29pm: Sir Bobby, I'm certain there will be accomplice provisions up here, and maybe even conspiracy stuff which might include the actions of anyone who attempted to hide the commission of an offence not committed by them. Well then it's time that Pell faced a trial. A trial? Why not just hang him at noon, out front of the Sydney Town Hall?

Only after a fair trial & a fair appeal.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 8:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 8:06pm: Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 7:43pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 7:29pm: Sir Bobby, I'm certain there will be accomplice provisions up here, and maybe even conspiracy stuff which might include the actions of anyone who attempted to hide the commission of an offence not committed by them. Well then it's time that Pell faced a trial. A trial? Why not just hang him at noon, out front of the Sydney Town Hall? Only after a fair trial & a fair appeal.

You've changed.

By the way, shouldn't there be a charge first?

Bobby. wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 7:43pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 7:29pm: Sir Bobby, I'm certain there will be accomplice provisions up here, and maybe even conspiracy stuff which might include the actions of anyone who attempted to hide the commission of an offence not committed by them. Well then it's time that Pell faced a trial.

has he been charged with a crime.. bobs..

lets see if one of the teary ones take him to court???..


and see how his memory stacks up then...I am sure their time will come just like those who took Harris and Roberts and now Cosby to court..

you can run but you cant hide indefinitely...



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Pell has maintained he never knew about Ridsdale’s preying on children until around 1990, three years before Ridsdale was charged, and didn’t even hear gossip about it in the years he was a priest in the same diocese. Gail Furness, SC, assisting the commission, was clearly sceptical. She repeatedly asked how Pell could not have known about Ridsdale’s abuse of children when it was known by several fellow priests — including a cousin and friends of Pell — as well as by his bishop, a school principal, a doctor, a policemen, drinkers at the Apollo Bay pub, and several parents and children at schools in three towns in the Ballarat diocese. And this when Pell was the episcopal vicar for education in the diocese. At the very least, he seems to have failed in his job. Pell offered various reasons — or excuses. His role as vicar was not actually an executive one. The time he could give to it was “limited” by his full-time job running a teachers’ college. He was often in Melbourne and so “I certainly was not plugged into the life of the diocese”. And he was not one for gossip, saying priests were actually “the most secretive of ­people” and quoting a church saying: “Those who know don’t say; those who say don’t know.”

funny the things he remembers ::) ::) ::)

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 8:23pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 8:22pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 8:06pm: Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 7:43pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 7:29pm: Sir Bobby, I'm certain there will be accomplice provisions up here, and maybe even conspiracy stuff which might include the actions of anyone who attempted to hide the commission of an offence not committed by them. Well then it's time that Pell faced a trial. A trial? Why not just hang him at noon, out front of the Sydney Town Hall? Only after a fair trial & a fair appeal. You've changed. By the way, shouldn't there be a charge first?

There are plenty of charges:

(1) withholding information from the police.
(2) perverting the course of justice.
(3) covering up crimes against children
(4) hindering police in their investigations
(5) allowing  known pedophiles to re-offend.
(6) providing sanctuary to criminal pedophiles.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 8:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 8:23pm: Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 8:22pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 8:06pm: Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 7:43pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 7:29pm: Sir Bobby, I'm certain there will be accomplice provisions up here, and maybe even conspiracy stuff which might include the actions of anyone who attempted to hide the commission of an offence not committed by them. Well then it's time that Pell faced a trial. A trial? Why not just hang him at noon, out front of the Sydney Town Hall? Only after a fair trial & a fair appeal. You've changed. By the way, shouldn't there be a charge first? There are plenty of charges: (1) withholding information from the police. (2) perverting the course of justice. (3) covering up crimes against children (4) hindering police in their investigations (5) allowing  known pedophiles to re-offend. (6) providing sanctuary to criminal pedophiles.

it isnt as simple as that..we are now talking about the 3rd highest man in the Vatican

its all about PROTECTING THE CHURCH...

and if that mean covering up.. so be it..

he will go to confession and feel much better tomorrow.

He'd have to be a Labor voter

Sorry for my ignorance by asking:
Has Cardinal Pell also  been a pedophile?.

athos wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 9:32am:

Sorry for my ignorance by asking: Has Cardinal Pell also  been a pedophile?.

He has been protecting and lying to protect paedophiles.  I have been watching every minute of his evidence, even at this moment, he is as bad as the convicted paedophiles.  He is a conceited sociopath.

I really do hope he burns in hell, as soon as possible.

He's certainly a pedophile by association.

I'm getting the religion "Catholic" removed from my birth certificate. Never did feel comfortable with it being there.

It's got me puzzled why the victims who went to Rome want to see the Pope. That's just condoning the vile acts committed against them

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 9:55am:

He's certainly a pedophile by association. I'm getting the religion "Catholic" removed from my birth certificate. Never did feel comfortable with it being there. It's got me puzzled why the victims who went to Rome want to see the Pope. That's just condoning the vile acts committed against them

I am not religious.  I am struggling to understand why this testimony of Pell's has me so angry.  I am really angry.

The only consolation will be if criminal charges come from this before Pell dies.

Pell has single-handedly destroyed to credibility of the current pope.  I suspect there wll be more than you severing connections with that church.  I just can't work out why society has taken so long to reach this point.

random wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 10:01am:

I suspect there wll be more than you severing connections with that church.

I never had much to do with them, but I completely gave them a miss when I found out they supported Australia's involvement in the Vietnam war. Fighting communism or not, the Catholic church should have kept out of the politics, a politics I got caught up in as a conscript.


BTW there was plenty of poofter perves in the Public medical system (government doctors in their government offices examining individual conscripts who were deferred due to finishing their apprenticeships)  ...and then there were poofter type NCOs in the Army going around stripping conscripts' and stamping their dicks with "canceled" stamps

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 11:04am:

random wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 10:01am: I suspect there wll be more than you severing connections with that church. I never had much to do with them, but I completely gave them a miss when I found out they supported Australia's involvement in the Vietnam war. Fighting communism or not, the Catholic church should have kept out of the politics, a politics I got caught up in as a conscript. BTW there was plenty of poofter perves in the Public medical system (government doctors in their government offices examining individual conscripts who were deferred due to finishing their apprenticeships)  ...and then there were poofter type NCOs in the Army going around stripping conscripts' and stamping their dicks with "canceled" stamps

Ooops, you got a serious issue if you are upset by 'poofters'.

Not sure there is anywhere you can go as homosexuals are a significant part of the population and there isn't anything you can do about it.

Cods, I am not one to panic in any situation.  I don't give a flying fig about Pell.  I will (and did) comment that any innocent man (not saying Pell is) is not about to falsely confess just because an alleged victim is bawling their eyes out in front of him.

Just to give you a bit more to have a go at me about........I reckon the behaviour in Rome of the victims and their feeding the schmedia is appalling.  That's not why the Public made donations so they could be there, and they seem completely unaware of their complete irrelevance to what is happening in Rome.   Now, they've lost interest in eyeballing Pell (gee....who'd a thought that was ever going to be anything other than a waste of time) and want a meeting with the Pope.  I reckon that will probably happen, and if it does....he'll wave some Holy Water over them, give them all a  'bless you,' wave them goodbye and then completely forget them.

from aussie..


and now Pell has confessed to knowing all along and doing not a thing about it..

INCREDIBLE   sick and INCREDIBLE>.


wouldnt you lose faith in someon e who weas lying like a pig he is... and want to see his BOSSMAN?>.

this is a man who is 3rd highest in the Rome Church.... and not only lied for years and years but to the Royal Comm...into child abuse...

and aussie with his usual foot on both sides of the camp.[ I am not saying he is]....but all the while pointing his ugly finger at the victims.. his usual stance...

can we guess these children should have told the Cardinal what to do about those abusing them????>.

I am sure his legal eagles will put him up to that one..

they too dont giv e a fig about the children...

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and aussie with his usual foot on both sides of the camp.[ I am not saying he is]....but all the while pointing his ugly finger at the victims.. his usual stance...

Why cods....why do you just make crap up?  You will find no post made by me or anyone 'pointing "an (ugly) finger at the victims.."  You always over-reach and it is quite alarming that you do so.

cods wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 4:29pm:

Cods, I am not one to panic in any situation.  I don't give a flying fig about Pell.  I will (and did) comment that any innocent man (not saying Pell is) is not about to falsely confess just because an alleged victim is bawling their eyes out in front of him. Just to give you a bit more to have a go at me about........I reckon the behaviour in Rome of the victims and their feeding the schmedia is appalling.  That's not why the Public made donations so they could be there, and they seem completely unaware of their complete irrelevance to what is happening in Rome.   Now, they've lost interest in eyeballing Pell (gee....who'd a thought that was ever going to be anything other than a waste of time) and want a meeting with the Pope.  I reckon that will probably happen, and if it does....he'll wave some Holy Water over them, give them all a  'bless you,' wave them goodbye and then completely forget them. from aussie.. and now Pell has confessed to knowing all along and doing not a thing about it.. INCREDIBLE   sick and INCREDIBLE>. wouldnt you lose faith in someon e who weas lying like a pig he is... and want to see his BOSSMAN?>. this is a man who is 3rd highest in the Rome Church.... and not only lied for years and years but to the Royal Comm...into child abuse... and aussie with his usual foot on both sides of the camp.[ I am not saying he is]....but all the while pointing his ugly finger at the victims.. his usual stance... can we guess these children should have told the Cardinal what to do about those abusing them????>. I am sure his legal eagles will put him up to that one.. they too dont giv e a fig about the children...

who'd a thought  ::) Unbelievable that somebody who claims to be  somebody of importance can't even use Grammar correctly.

"Who would HAVE thought" ....  arsie must a stood up a in Court a and said a .... this guy is not a guilty a.  Got a bit of Italian in thee have ya arsie?  ;D ;D

Aussie wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 6:26pm:

Ah, okay, Mr Baron, so you did not graduate as a Police Officer with a University degree?  Do they all now graduate as a Police Officer with a University degree?  Has it ever been the case that every graduating Police Officer also had at that time of Police Graduation, a Uni degree?

I see you are here.  Mr Baron?

Aussie wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 4:36pm:

Quote: and aussie with his usual foot on both sides of the camp.[ I am not saying he is]....but all the while pointing his ugly finger at the victims.. his usual stance... Why cods....why do you just make crap up?  You will find no post made by me or anyone 'pointing "an (ugly) finger at the victims.."  You always over-reach and it is quite alarming that you do so.

so you dont think your crass comment about people bawling their eyes out.. is a ugly comment about the VICTIMS....

of course not..

you are almost as good as Pell at denial..

Aussie wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 4:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 6:26pm: Ah, okay, Mr Baron, so you did not graduate as a Police Officer with a University degree?  Do they all now graduate as a Police Officer with a University degree?  Has it ever been the case that every graduating Police Officer also had at that time of Police Graduation, a Uni degree?  I see you are here.  Mr Baron?

what has this got to do with UGLY UGLY CHILD AB USE???>..

for someone who has spent an enormous amount of time complaining about others n ot sticking to the topic..

you are a beauty.

why dont you and red retreat to relaltionships where you can club each other to death..

and it will all go unnoticed..

What I see in George Pell is a person steeped in ritual and the manifest of the Catholic Church.

He is so immersed in his Church that he has lost touch with the human condition and everything that goes along with it.

He is Jurassic Park personified. Let us hope that the current generation of Priests are more enlightened and informed on life and deal with it, no matter what damage comes to the Church by pursuing the truth.

cods wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 4:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 4:36pm: Quote: and aussie with his usual foot on both sides of the camp.[ I am not saying he is]....but all the while pointing his ugly finger at the victims.. his usual stance... Why cods....why do you just make crap up?  You will find no post made by me or anyone 'pointing "an (ugly) finger at the victims.."  You always over-reach and it is quite alarming that you do so. so you dont think your crass comment about people bawling their eyes out.. is a ugly comment about the VICTIMS.... of course not.. you are almost as good as Pell at denial..

Nothing crass about it at all, cods.  If a Man is innocent of abusing a child, the presence of that child in front of him ~ sobbing, crying, bawling their eyes out, is not going to make him to say he did something terrible when he did not.

Mr Baron, why are you ignoring my query?

red baron wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 4:52pm:

What I see in George Pell is a person steeped in ritual and the manifest of the Catholic Church. He is so immersed in his Church that he has lost touch with the human condition and everything that goes along with it. He is Jurassic Park personified. Let us hope that the current generation of Priests are more enlightened and informed on life and deal with it, no matter what damage comes to the Church by pursuing the truth.

Are young men still becoming Priests these days?   ::)

Aussie wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 4:56pm:

cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 4:49pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 4:36pm: Quote: and aussie with his usual foot on both sides of the camp.[ I am not saying he is]....but all the while pointing his ugly finger at the victims.. his usual stance... Why cods....why do you just make crap up?  You will find no post made by me or anyone 'pointing "an (ugly) finger at the victims.."  You always over-reach and it is quite alarming that you do so. so you dont think your crass comment about people bawling their eyes out.. is a ugly comment about the VICTIMS.... of course not.. you are almost as good as Pell at denial.. Nothing crass about it at all, cods.  If a Man is innocent of abusing a child, the presence of that child in front of him ~ sobbing, crying, bawling their eyes out, is not going to make him to say he did something terrible when he did not. Mr Baron, why are you ignoring my query?

Arsie is again defending PAEDOPHILES ....

You would very obviously believe a grown male over a small child. You are a DISGUSTING PERSON.

Aussie I stand corrected on the degree business. All new Police do have to gain a degree in Policing from Charles Sturt University in New South Wales.

They graduate as Cops after 12 months full time training.

I understand they complete their degree over the next two years, completing a total of three years to finish their degree.

Apologies about my initial information.

random wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 11:56am:

homosexuals are a significant part of the population

Yeah don't we know it. They'll be a significant part of the prison population soon too 

red baron wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 5:07pm:

Aussie I stand corrected on the degree business. All new Police do have to gain a degree in Policing from Charles Sturt University in New South Wales. They graduate as Cops after 12 months full time training. I understand they complete their degree over the next two years, completing a total of three years to finish their degree. Apologies about my initial information.

Okay.  This is what you posted about it in a Rolf Harris Thread:


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Re: Rolf Harris charged. Reply #45 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 3:04pm  longweekend...you might want to check your facts a little before you go down the 'dumb cop' routine. Every Officer graduating as a Police Officer also graduates with a University degree...Incidentally, you got one?

And.......I reckon you are still wrong.  Coppers are not required to pursue and obtain a degree to retain their Copper position in Queensland.  NSW may be different.

athos wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 9:32am:

Sorry for my ignorance by asking: Has Cardinal Pell also  been a pedophile?.

These are the charges brought from trial by media:

(1) withholding information from the police.
(2) perverting the course of justice.
(3) covering up crimes against children
(4) hindering police in their investigations
(5) allowing  known pedophiles to re-offend.
(6) providing sanctuary to criminal pedophiles.

red baron wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 4:52pm:

What I see in George Pell is a person steeped in ritual and the manifest of the Catholic Church. He is so immersed in his Church that he has lost touch with the human condition and everything that goes along with it. He is Jurassic Park personified. Let us hope that the current generation of Priests are more enlightened and informed on life and deal with it, no matter what damage comes to the Church by pursuing the truth.

isnt that precisely what they are not meant to do???>.

many years ago in Ireland I watched as a priest who was talking to another priest on the steps of a Catholic church...push a women almost down the steps as she tried to talk to him and pulled on his cassock..it stayed with me all this time.. I was so shocked broad daylight they dont care.....

cods wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 5:32pm:

red baron wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 4:52pm: What I see in George Pell is a person steeped in ritual and the manifest of the Catholic Church. He is so immersed in his Church that he has lost touch with the human condition and everything that goes along with it. He is Jurassic Park personified. Let us hope that the current generation of Priests are more enlightened and informed on life and deal with it, no matter what damage comes to the Church by pursuing the truth. isnt that precisely what they are not meant to do???>. many years ago in Ireland I watched as a priest who was talking to another priest on the steps of a Catholic church...push a women almost down the steps as she tried to talk to him and pulled on his cassock..it stayed with me all this time.. I was so shocked broad daylight they dont care.....

Those priests can get really nasty:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMWjV2zRD3w

Aussie wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 4:56pm:

cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 4:49pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 4:36pm: Quote: and aussie with his usual foot on both sides of the camp.[ I am not saying he is]....but all the while pointing his ugly finger at the victims.. his usual stance... Why cods....why do you just make crap up?  You will find no post made by me or anyone 'pointing "an (ugly) finger at the victims.."  You always over-reach and it is quite alarming that you do so. so you dont think your crass comment about people bawling their eyes out.. is a ugly comment about the VICTIMS.... of course not.. you are almost as good as Pell at denial.. Nothing crass about it at all, cods.  If a Man is innocent of abusing a child, the presence of that child in front of him ~ sobbing, crying, bawling their eyes out, is not going to make him to say he did something terrible when he did not. Mr Baron, why are you ignoring my query?

thats what you think.. its not what the majority of Australians think...


you can think what you like I know what I think about you....and yes its nasty.


BTW HE HAS ADMITTED HE DID SOMETHING TERRIBLE



IT ONLY TOOK SOMETHING LIKE 30 YEARS TO GET IT OUT OF HIM...


he admits to being part of the reason someones child committed suicide..

and you think they are bawling because he is innocent.. >:( >:( >:( >:(

the HELL HE IS>

Bobby. wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 5:35pm:

cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 5:32pm: red baron wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 4:52pm: What I see in George Pell is a person steeped in ritual and the manifest of the Catholic Church. He is so immersed in his Church that he has lost touch with the human condition and everything that goes along with it. He is Jurassic Park personified. Let us hope that the current generation of Priests are more enlightened and informed on life and deal with it, no matter what damage comes to the Church by pursuing the truth. isnt that precisely what they are not meant to do???>. many years ago in Ireland I watched as a priest who was talking to another priest on the steps of a Catholic church...push a women almost down the steps as she tried to talk to him and pulled on his cassock..it stayed with me all this time.. I was so shocked broad daylight they dont care..... Those priests can get really nasty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMWjV2zRD3w

stop trivialising this..

if for some strange reason you believe no child is being abused right now anywhere in this world/.


then you are as bad as anyone who turns a b lind eye to the truth. >:( >:( >:(

cods wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 5:38pm:

stop trivialising this.. if for some strange reason you believe no child is being abused right now anywhere in this world/. then you are as bad as anyone who turns a b lind eye to the truth. >:( >:( >:(

I am but a mere messenger of the truth of how bad priests can be.

Aussie I am not wrong. My partner's daughter is a young Sergeant in the NSW Police Force. My partner was across every step of her training.

And yes, all new Police must do a Policing degree with Charles Sturt University.

red baron wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 5:55pm:

Aussie I am not wrong. My partner's daughter is a young Sergeant in the NSW Police Force. My partner was across every step of her training. And yes, all new Police must do a Policing degree with Charles Sturt University.

Hi Baron - as a knowledgeable ex cop

please tell me which charges apply to Pell?

(1) withholding information from the police.
(2) perverting the course of justice.
(3) covering up crimes against children
(4) hindering police in their investigations
(5) allowing  known pedophiles to re-offend.
(6) providing sanctuary to criminal pedophiles.

Sir Bobby, your list sounds fine to me but you will never see Cardinal Pell up for such matters.

He is hard wired to some of the most powerful people in the world, let alone Aus.

No friend, he will slither out of this one tarnished but his life will go on. Business as usual in the Vatican with his mentor the Pope.

red baron wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 6:20pm:

Sir Bobby, your list sounds fine to me but you will never see Cardinal Pell up for such matters. He is hard wired to some of the most powerful people in the world, let alone Aus. No friend, he will slither out of this one tarnished but his life will go on. Business as usual in the Vatican with his mentor the Pope.

I know if you were still a cop you'd charge him.

So, does this mean Mulkearns has a right of reply to Pell's accusations at the inquiry?


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Bishop Mulkearns' evidence was adjourned after 90 minutes for medical reasons. He will reappear at a later date.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/bishop-ronald-mulkearns-appears-at-ballarat-royal-commission-20160224-gn30c0.html#ixzz41q6e7Ebr
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK66ZDtHjY4

Busted! Grand Jury Finds 50 Roman Catholic Priests Raped Hundreds of Kids

Published on Mar 2, 2016
www.undergroundworldnews.com
Hundreds of children in western Pennsylvania were sexually assaulted by about 50 Roman Catholic priests over four decades while bishops covered up their actions, according to a state grand jury report released on Tuesday.

Learn More:

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/pennsylvania-grand-jury-finds-50-roman-catholic-priests-abused-hundreds-of-children/

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 11:14pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK66ZDtHjY4 Busted! Grand Jury Finds 50 Roman Catholic Priests Raped Hundreds of Kids Published on Mar 2, 2016 www.undergroundworldnews.com Hundreds of children in western Pennsylvania were sexually assaulted by about 50 Roman Catholic priests over four decades while bishops covered up their actions, according to a state grand jury report released on Tuesday. Learn More: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/pennsylvania-grand-jury-finds-50-roman-catholic-priests-abused-hundreds-of-children/

The Catholic bum banging has been going on all over the world
by these sick depraved pedophile rings.
It's time the Catholic church was closed down.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 5:25am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:14pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK66ZDtHjY4 Busted! Grand Jury Finds 50 Roman Catholic Priests Raped Hundreds of Kids Published on Mar 2, 2016 www.undergroundworldnews.com Hundreds of children in western Pennsylvania were sexually assaulted by about 50 Roman Catholic priests over four decades while bishops covered up their actions, according to a state grand jury report released on Tuesday. Learn More: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/pennsylvania-grand-jury-finds-50-roman-catholic-priests-abused-hundreds-of-children/ The Catholic bum banging has been going on all over the world by these sick depraved pedophile rings. It's time the Catholic church was closed down.

Time to shut down all organised religion.

They should have to prove that God exists to qualify for a tax exemption.

Brendon wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 9:45pm:

So, does this mean Mulkearns has a right of reply to Pell's accusations at the inquiry? Quote: Bishop Mulkearns' evidence was adjourned after 90 minutes for medical reasons. He will reappear at a later date. Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/bishop-ronald-mulkearns-appears-at-ballarat-royal-commission-20160224-gn30c0.html#ixzz41q6e7Ebr Follow us: @smh on Twitter | sydneymorningherald on Facebook

the fact they are recalling Bishop Mulkearns.... leads me to think thats the reason Pell suddenly admitted what hes been denying all these years...

he has accused Mulkearns of not telling him all the details...?????????.....as and when it happened..........

Mulkearns looks about to die, or at least too sick to contribute any further.

many blessings as one such as I am will welcome

my presence unto your awareness in this now moment , and so

it has been revealed unto all that would care for as much

and with eyes and ears to behold these truths

this is a systematic organized institution of child rape , so why

why do these educated and supposedly " spiritual " beings and beacons of light in your world commit such deeds ?

it is a satanic luciferian freemasonic ritual to attach demonic entities unto the child

so as this entity / energy will continually chatter and torment the hu man ( god man ) embodied in physical form

and control the consciousness of you the avatar in your manifested vessel of , but not limited to skin and bone

many now are becoming aware of their magnetic and auric field around them through the higher frequencies being absorbed by , but not limited to your DNA and microtubles

and that which ye empower and consent unto

shall continue for a time for thee however

when you stand in your sovereignty and do not consent

it shall be how you think and say it to be so ever moreso

many continue to watch footy and pump toxins into their temple / body

and so be it

namaste

- : ) =

If Victoria police are on the job Pell is guaranteed to avoid prosecution.

Victoria police contend only blacks and Muslims can commit crimes.

Svengali wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 12:35pm:

If Victoria police are on the job Pell is guaranteed to avoid prosecution. Victoria police contend only blacks and Muslims can commit crimes.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/413133049069449217/8LJ8-3NW_400x400.jpeg

the baphomet speak for itself

namaste

random wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 7:50am:

Mulkearns looks about to die, or at least too sick to contribute any further.

he is but he will....what has he got to lose.... and would a dying Bishop lie on his death bed.. ::) ::) ::)

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 2:44pm:

Svengali wrote on Mar 4th, 2016 at 12:35pm: If Victoria police are on the job Pell is guaranteed to avoid prosecution. Victoria police contend only blacks and Muslims can commit crimes. https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/413133049069449217/8LJ8-3NW_400x400.jpeg the baphomet speak for itself namaste

"Uphold the right" labels the Victoria police as right wing zealots.

What a childish badge design. Reflects the mentality of the police leadership who are undoubtedly Freemasons more interested in protecting brother Freemasons and their wealth than the public.

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 12:08pm:

many blessings as one such as I am will welcome my presence unto your awareness in this now moment , and so it has been revealed unto all that would care for as much and with eyes and ears to behold these truths this is a systematic organized institution of child rape , so why why do these educated and supposedly " spiritual " beings and beacons of light in your world commit such deeds ? it is a satanic luciferian freemasonic ritual to attach demonic entities unto the child so as this entity / energy will continually chatter and torment the hu man ( god man ) embodied in physical form and control the consciousness of you the avatar in your manifested vessel of , but not limited to skin and bone many now are becoming aware of their magnetic and auric field around them through the higher frequencies being absorbed by , but not limited to your DNA and microtubles and that which ye empower and consent unto shall continue for a time for thee however when you stand in your sovereignty and do not consent it shall be how you think and say it to be so ever moreso many continue to watch footy and pump toxins into their temple / body and so be it namaste - : ) =

I quite agree master Light,

satanic luciferian freemasonic ritual

It's been going on for over 1000 years in the Church.

Svengali wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 12:35pm:

If Victoria police are on the job Pell is guaranteed to avoid prosecution. Victoria police contend only blacks and Muslims can commit crimes.

I thought there was a big Victoria police team working on the cases?

athos wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 9:32am:

Sorry for my ignorance by asking: Has Cardinal Pell also  been a pedophile?.

These are the charges brought from trial by media:

(1) withholding information from the police.
(2) perverting the course of justice.
(3) covering up crimes against children
(4) hindering police in their investigations
(5) allowing  known pedophiles to re-offend.
(6) providing sanctuary to criminal pedophiles.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 5:12pm:

Svengali wrote on Mar 4th, 2016 at 12:35pm: If Victoria police are on the job Pell is guaranteed to avoid prosecution. Victoria police contend only blacks and Muslims can commit crimes. I thought there was a big Victoria police team working on the cases?

Cases of beer?