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Title: We can see patterns that don't exist,...
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 11:45am

..or miss them!

Title: Re: We can see patterns that don't exist,...
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 11:52am

Title: Re: We can see patterns that don't exist,...
Post by lee on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 12:18pm

Northern Hemisphere Sea Ice anomaly 1973-1990

Original

http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/far/wg_I/ipcc_far_wg_I_full_report.pdf

Fig 7.20a

Title: Re: We can see patterns that don't exist,...
Post by John_Taverner on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 12:52pm

Lee - Why does it end at 1990? Are you yearning for the past?

Malcolm - often a graph is worth a thousand words.

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Post by lee on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 4:33pm

John_Taverner wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 12:52pm:

Lee - Why does it end at 1990? Are you yearning for the past?

Malcolm - often a graph is worth a thousand words.

Did you not read the link? It is from the IPCC First Assessment Report (FAR). It is instructive because it goes back before 1979.

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Post by John_Taverner on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 5:59pm

lee wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 4:33pm:

John_Taverner wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 12:52pm:

Lee - Why does it end at 1990? Are you yearning for the past?

Malcolm - often a graph is worth a thousand words.

Did you not read the link? It is from the IPCC First Assessment Report (FAR). It is instructive because it goes back before 1979.

ok, an extended dataset, by a whole 6 years.

Title: Re: We can see patterns that don't exist,...
Post by lee on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 6:27pm

But it shows a lower Sea Ice Level. Why don't the modern reconstructions do that?

Title: Re: We can see patterns that don't exist,...
Post by John_Taverner on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 8:20pm

Maybe accuracy includes error bars? ;D

Title: Re: We can see patterns that don't exist,...
Post by lee on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 8:23pm

John_Taverner wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 8:20pm:

Maybe accuracy includes error bars? ;D

I'm glad I made your day. ;)

Title: Re: We can see patterns that don't exist,...
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 12:41am

John_Taverner wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 12:52pm:

Lee - Why does it end at 1990? Are you yearning for the past?

Malcolm - often a graph is worth a thousand words.

How's that china emisisions graph after circa yeqr 2000...?

Considering America was natures main competitor before that date and India haven't even started yet I feel wind turbines are about to become blue chipped stock!

:-? People will soon be demanding the hard numbers on multi-year sea ice from every street corner :o :o

(..meanwhile shills like bobby will be fast handing out fliers on time series only to see they no longer show anything that aids their cause MEANING MASS PANIC WILL HAVE TRULY ARRIVED :P)