Climate change driving species to the Earth's poles faster than predicted, scientists say


Warming temperatures are pushing land and sea creatures closer to the north and south poles and to cooler altitudes at rates faster than first predicted, scientists say.

Scientists from 40 countries are gathering in Hobart for a four-day conference about how climate change is forcing species to move, including humans.

Professor Camille Parmesan from Plymouth University in the UK said around the world animals and plants were moving towards the Earth's poles, and it is happening faster than scientists had originally predicted.

"For the species that we have really good data on where they've lived historically over the past 100 years, we're seeing about half of those have actually moved where they live, which is an astonishing number given we've only had one degree centigrade warming," she said.

The East Australian Current has moved 350 kilometres further south in the past 60 years.

Tasmania's east coast is a global hotspot for marine species that are moving south.

One of them is the long-spined sea urchin.

Associate Professor Gretta Pecl from the University of Tasmania's Institute for Marine and Antarctic Studies said the species was becoming a pest.


more :

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-09/climate-change-driving-species-to-the-poles-scientists-say/7152682

When are you going?

____ wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 4:44pm:

Professor Camille Parmesan from Plymouth University in the UK said around the world animals and plants were moving towards the Earth's poles, and it is happening faster than scientists had originally predicted.

She is so funny.

Camiile and the Edith's checkerspot butterfly, hahaha

Studied the butterflies saw some had moved up the mountain. Apparently didn't realise the area had been logged. The grasses moved up the mountain because they could get sun. The butterflies followed. According to her that was proof of AGW and the butterflies need to migrate.

The trees grew back. The grasses died out. The butterflies moved down the mountain again.

Professor verse Cyber Commentator ... I'll take the Professor thanks.

Of course you would.

How many times have you given up milk, bacon, eggs, etc., because, at various times, they have been deemed (in 'studies'), as bad for your health?

One imagines that these studies have been extant for less time than the GW farce.

The real answer to global warming is to reduce the world's population by 80%.

Butterflies   :D

Lionel Edriess wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 11:17pm:

Of course you would. How many times have you given up milk, bacon, eggs, etc., because, at various times, they have been deemed (in 'studies'), as bad for your health? One imagines that these studies have been extant for less time than the GW farce. The real answer to global warming is to reduce the world's population by 80%. Butterflies   :D

Will Lionel Edriess go first and lead from the front instead of blathering at the rear?

____ wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 10:03pm:

Professor verse Cyber Commentator ... I'll take the Professor thanks.

'But recent logging near their natural habitat changed all that. Not only did logging open the forest floor to more sunlight, it also exposed deeper soils that had been enriched from the logging debris and burn-piles. That human disturbance created the just-right conditions for the annual Collinsia to survive for much longer periods. Serendipitously it also created a novel butterfly-plant synchrony. A longer-lived and more abundant Collinsia could now sustain the full development of hungry caterpillars.'

http://landscapesandcycles.net/fabricating-climate-doom---part-3--extreme-weather.html

'Jim was the Director and an instructor at the Sierra Nevada Field Campus from 1985 to 2009. His enthusiasm for natural history and ecology has led to an extensive knowledge of the plant and animal life in the Sierra Buttes and Yuba Pass area of the Sierra Nevada. He believes that every class should be highly informative, somewhat rigorous and fun.'

https://www.sfsu.edu/~sierra/Instructor_JimSteele.html

'He is a genuine environmentalist who has worked for various government agencies as a consultant and is a supporter of the Feather River and Sierra County Land Trusts. He is now a professor emeritus and is thus untethered from dependence on government grants or patronage. '

https://www.masterresource.org/climate-exaggeration/steele-book-climate-skepticism/

Just a little background.

Will Lionel Edriess go first and lead from the front instead of blathering at the rear?

I will go , I had enough

Lionel Edriess wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 11:17pm:

Of course you would. How many times have you given up milk, bacon, eggs, etc., because, at various times, they have been deemed (in 'studies'), as bad for your health? One imagines that these studies have been extant for less time than the GW farce. The real answer to global warming is to reduce the world's population by 80%. Butterflies   :D

how can the real answer to global warming be to reduce global population when the bulk of emissions have come from the least populated cities

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 3:50pm:

how can the real answer to global warming be to reduce global population when the bulk of emissions have come from the least populated cities

Funny that

'Mapping urban heat islands of arctic cities using combined data on field measurements and satellite images based on the example of the city of Apatity (Murmansk Oblast)'

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1134%2FS000143381509011X#/page-1

'The experimental data on air temperature were obtained as a result of expeditionary meteorological observations, and the experimental data on surface temperature were obtained based on the data of the space hyperspectral Moderate-Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) system, channels 31 and 32 (10.78–11.28 and 11.77–12.27 micrometers, respectively). As a result of the analysis of temperature fields, an intensive heat island (up to 3.2°C) has been identified that was estimated based on the underlying surface temperature, and its mean intensity over the observation period significantly exceeds the representative data for European cities in winter.'

UHIE as a function humans warming their homes. Because the Sun ain't shining in winter.

Now you know why GISS shows that lovely red in the Arctic.

I did notice whales migrating to Antarctica this year..... right past here...... spotted one from an aircraft once... thousands of feet up and the tail splashing was awesome... beautiful creatures......

Bunch of sellouts - offer 'em a cheap krill and off they go to Antarctica....

____ wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 4:44pm:

Climate change driving species to the Earth's poles faster than predicted, scientists say Warming temperatures are pushing land and sea creatures closer to the north and south poles and to cooler altitudes at rates faster than first predicted, scientists say. Scientists from 40 countries are gathering in Hobart for a four-day conference about how climate change is forcing species to move, including humans. Professor Camille Parmesan from Plymouth University in the UK said around the world animals and plants were moving towards the Earth's poles, and it is happening faster than scientists had originally predicted. "For the species that we have really good data on where they've lived historically over the past 100 years, we're seeing about half of those have actually moved where they live, which is an astonishing number given we've only had one degree centigrade warming," she said. The East Australian Current has moved 350 kilometres further south in the past 60 years. Tasmania's east coast is a global hotspot for marine species that are moving south. One of them is the long-spined sea urchin. Associate Professor Gretta Pecl from the University of Tasmania's Institute for Marine and Antarctic Studies said the species was becoming a pest. more : http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-09/climate-change-driving-species-to-the-poles-scientists-say/7152682

So??


What was the 'news' 100,000 years ago when sea levels rose and made Australia an island and separated Siberia from Alaska???


You guys are insane.

Soren wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 10:40pm:

____ wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:44pm: Climate change driving species to the Earth's poles faster than predicted, scientists say Warming temperatures are pushing land and sea creatures closer to the north and south poles and to cooler altitudes at rates faster than first predicted, scientists say. Scientists from 40 countries are gathering in Hobart for a four-day conference about how climate change is forcing species to move, including humans. Professor Camille Parmesan from Plymouth University in the UK said around the world animals and plants were moving towards the Earth's poles, and it is happening faster than scientists had originally predicted. "For the species that we have really good data on where they've lived historically over the past 100 years, we're seeing about half of those have actually moved where they live, which is an astonishing number given we've only had one degree centigrade warming," she said. The East Australian Current has moved 350 kilometres further south in the past 60 years. Tasmania's east coast is a global hotspot for marine species that are moving south. One of them is the long-spined sea urchin. Associate Professor Gretta Pecl from the University of Tasmania's Institute for Marine and Antarctic Studies said the species was becoming a pest. more : http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-09/climate-change-driving-species-to-the-poles-scientists-say/7152682 So?? What was the 'news' 100,000 years ago when sea levels rose and made Australia an island and separated Siberia from Alaska??? You guys are insane.

Link, thanx ::)

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 10:33pm:

I did notice whales migrating to Antarctica this year..... right past here...... spotted one from an aircraft once... thousands of feet up and the tail splashing was awesome... beautiful creatures...... Bunch of sellouts - offer 'em a cheap krill and off they go to Antarctica....

Mate, I've seen 'em from dinghy level off Jurien(Greenheads)... like across the horizon who knows how many: pretty surreal!

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 10:53pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 10:33pm: I did notice whales migrating to Antarctica this year..... right past here...... spotted one from an aircraft once... thousands of feet up and the tail splashing was awesome... beautiful creatures...... Bunch of sellouts - offer 'em a cheap krill and off they go to Antarctica.... Mate, I've seen 'em from dinghy level off Jurien(Greenheads)... like across the horizon who knows how many: pretty surreal!

One came in right off the beach one day.. no more than about twenty metres out.... playing for the crowd.. exhibitionist!  Many times I've been out with the cameras and stuff - not that day.... buggar....

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 11:06pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 10:53pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 10:33pm: I did notice whales migrating to Antarctica this year..... right past here...... spotted one from an aircraft once... thousands of feet up and the tail splashing was awesome... beautiful creatures...... Bunch of sellouts - offer 'em a cheap krill and off they go to Antarctica.... Mate, I've seen 'em from dinghy level off Jurien(Greenheads)... like across the horizon who knows how many: pretty surreal! One came in right off the beach one day.. no more than about twenty metres out.... playing for the crowd.. exhibitionist!  Many times I've been out with the cameras and stuff - not that day.... buggar....

The memory is better  :)

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 10:51pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 10:40pm: ____ wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:44pm: Climate change driving species to the Earth's poles faster than predicted, scientists say Warming temperatures are pushing land and sea creatures closer to the north and south poles and to cooler altitudes at rates faster than first predicted, scientists say. Scientists from 40 countries are gathering in Hobart for a four-day conference about how climate change is forcing species to move, including humans. Professor Camille Parmesan from Plymouth University in the UK said around the world animals and plants were moving towards the Earth's poles, and it is happening faster than scientists had originally predicted. "For the species that we have really good data on where they've lived historically over the past 100 years, we're seeing about half of those have actually moved where they live, which is an astonishing number given we've only had one degree centigrade warming," she said. The East Australian Current has moved 350 kilometres further south in the past 60 years. Tasmania's east coast is a global hotspot for marine species that are moving south. One of them is the long-spined sea urchin. Associate Professor Gretta Pecl from the University of Tasmania's Institute for Marine and Antarctic Studies said the species was becoming a pest. more : http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-09/climate-change-driving-species-to-the-poles-scientists-say/7152682 So?? What was the 'news' 100,000 years ago when sea levels rose and made Australia an island and separated Siberia from Alaska??? You guys are insane. Link, thanx ::)

Here it is.

Seriously -whales are smart and have characters of their own... they're curious and friendly.. a guy I know in the surf boat crew was paddling way out and a whale rose up to check them out... whales are amazing and I can't even begin to understand why we once killed them... I live in what was once probably the premier whale hunting area of Australia... it's all in the kid's history books....

I'm no hippy... I've learned the value of life through a lot of often nasty things.... and those lessons stick...  I know full well that humans are nasty and around 95% are insane in some way.... and that they/we do things for no real reason far too often....

Look at our psychopathic 'political leadership'.....

I have no doubt that juvenile whale was  showing off to the people on the Point looking on.... young smartass.... given the chance whales seem to commune happily with people.... Fork the Jap Whalers....

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 11:42pm:

whales are amazing and I can't even begin to understand why we once killed them...

Er.... for meat, bones and blubber.

These wankers got anything better to do with their time?

My greatest regret is that they only junked 60 climate wankers from the CSIRO and not the lot of them.