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Title: Treaty Post by Greens_Win on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:19am
Greens urge Malcolm Turnbull to consider treaty with Indigenous people alongside constitutional recognition push
The Greens have written an open letter to the Prime Minister calling for consideration of a treaty process alongside the push for Indigenous recognition in the constitution. The party's Indigenous affairs spokeswoman Rachel Siewert has released a letter she has written to Malcolm Turnbull setting out the Greens' position. She maintains that increasingly Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander and non-Indigenous people are calling for a treaty or multiple treaties with different Indigenous nations within Australia. "It's the unfinished business around sovereignty never being ceded," Senator Siewert said. "Until it's dealt with we aren't going to see the gap close in a meaningful way." The Federal Government and Opposition have provided bipartisan support for recognising Indigenous Australians in the constitution. A referendum requires a high bar of support from the majority of Australians and the majority of states. A question for voters has not yet been devised and a council of Indigenous representatives is consulting across the country on the next step towards the poll. A treaty would be a separate formal agreement between the Government and Indigenous people with legal outcomes. The Canadian, the US and New Zealand governments have signed treaties with their Indigenous communities. "The Australian Greens believe that constitutional recognition should not be purely symbolic and must be supported by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples," Senator Siewert wrote in the letter to the Prime Minister. "We support treaties which recognise prior occupation and the sovereignty, and the sovereignty of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples." On Monday, Queensland Indigenous artist Norman Miller presented a petition to the Speaker of the House of Representatives in Canberra in support of the referendum. Fact check: Does a formal no case sink a constitutional referendum? Supporters of the proposal to recognise Indigenous Australians in the constitution are worried political division could sink a referendum. The "boomerang" petition with 5,000 signatures maintains the current founding document is a "settler constitution" that is written as if "Indigenous people did not exist or were invisible". "I want my mother to live to see this day that she will see it and know that Indigenous people truly are recognised," Mr Miller said. Coalition MP Warren Entsch was present for the handover of the petition, and rejected suggestions the Government is not acting quickly enough to progress towards a referendum. "I think there is overwhelming support within the broader Australian community for recognition, no question about it," Mr Enstch said. "The debate is within the Indigenous community itself as to the wording. "It's important that we give time to those with different views within the Indigenous community to be able to come together with a consensus." http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-09/greens-call-on-prime-minister-to-open-debate-on-treaty-process/7150448 |
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Title: Re: Treaty Post by aquascoot on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:48am
i'm not too sure about a treaty.
Are the greens proposing some sort of treaty where indigenous communities will have to pay back the white communities for all the hospitals, roads and schools that the white communities have built for them? This doesnt sit well with my idea that the better off have a duty to contribute. the white contributors dont need any sort of treaty by way of an acknowledgement of gratitude by indigenous folk. We get great joy out of contributing to their advancement and this alone , is thanks enough. Tell Malcolm, we thank him for the idea of a "treaty of thanks" but we were happy to help our indigenous brothers and we look forward to doing so in the future. |
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Title: Re: Treaty Post by Swagman on Feb 9th, 2016 at 7:47am
....more racism from the Greens
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Title: Re: Treaty Post by Greens_Win on Feb 9th, 2016 at 8:28am
... more delusional racist claims from swag.
When you don't have a logical argument ~ make something up. |
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Title: Re: Treaty Post by Honky on Feb 9th, 2016 at 8:31am
No, a treaty is a stupid idea as aborigines have nothing to offer us.
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Title: Re: Treaty Post by Swagman on Feb 9th, 2016 at 8:32am ____ wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 8:28am:
The Greens are advocating for the constitutional determination of citizenship based upon race. That is racism GW. |
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Title: Re: Treaty Post by Redneck on Feb 9th, 2016 at 8:34am
I think aquascoot actually made a bit of sense for once!
Agree! |
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Title: Re: Treaty Post by The Heartless Felon on Feb 9th, 2016 at 8:37am ... wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 8:31am:
OI! Knock it off Honky. According to the ABC this morning they are 'First Nation'... |
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