....but not before locking himself into the tax payer money trough!  Blaaaaady hell, why must these people keep their fingers in our pockets!

Link.

Just go, Ruddock!

He's 73 in March (born March 12, 1943). Give the guy a break.  He is only just a bit older than you are, Aussie, and seems to still have all his marbles.  ;) Oh, he did Law too.  ;D No. He didn't buy Taxi plates .... how wise he is.  ;D


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Philip Maxwell Ruddock (born 12 March 1943) is an Australian politician who is a member of the House of Representatives representing the Division of Berowra, New South Wales, for the Liberal Party of Australia. First elected in a 1973 by-election, he is the only Member of Parliament from the period of the Whitlam government (1972–75) and the Fraser government (1975–83) still serving. He has been the Father of the House of Representatives since 1998. He is the second longest-serving parliamentarian in the history of the Australian Parliament (only Billy Hughes served longer).[2] Ruddock served continuously in federal cabinet during the Howard Government, as Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs from 1996 to 2003, and then Attorney-General from 2003 to 2007.

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Ruddock was born in Canberra and was the son of Emmie (née Chappell) and Maxwell "Max" Ruddock, a Liberal member of the New South Wales Legislative Assembly between 1962 and 1976. He was educated at Barker College in the Sydney suburb of Hornsby before entering University of Sydney, after which he practised as a solicitor. He was articled to the firm Berne, Murray and Tout and was promoted to partner.

He is a great deal older than me.   Why would a bloke at 73 years of age (with or without marbles) need to keep his hand in our pocket after the golden handshake he will receive anyway in the way of entitlements?

Ruddock will now retire and like all successful lawyers will start driving taxis.

mariacostel wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:05pm:

Ruddock will now retire and like all successful lawyers will start driving taxis.

Maybe he should.  It would demonstrate that he is able to fend for himself and not need us to prop him up with an obvious sinecure.

Aussie wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:04pm:

He is a great deal older than me.   Why would a bloke at 73 years of age (with or without marbles) need to keep his hand in our pocket after the golden handshake he will receive anyway in the way of entitlements?

have you asked all those JUDGES that are also living at the taxpayers expense...even after years of falling asleep on the bench..of course all these ivory tower dwellers...think paedophilia and drink driving is all ok if the judiciary get caught doing it..

yes even means NO to some.

one good thing we wont be looking after the fat pig Palmer after the next election..

Aussie wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:07pm:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:05pm: Ruddock will now retire and like all successful lawyers will start driving taxis. Maybe he should.  It would demonstrate that he is able to fend for himself and not need us to prop him up with an obvious sinecure.

did you say that to gillard and krudd and the green bloke when you were a green.... >:( >:( >:( >:(

I am damn sure I never read it perhaps you hav e a link to where you did..

at the moment I think we have more EX lABOR PMs LIVING OFF THE FAT OF THE LAND...

than any liberals...but I guess thats ok with your double standards...

Aussie wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:04pm:

He is a great deal older than me.   Why would a bloke at 73 years of age (with or without marbles) need to keep his hand in our pocket after the golden handshake he will receive anyway in the way of entitlements?

Six years is a "great deal older"? 


Perhaps he is a dedicated Pollie (rare) who hung in there due to his Constituents? At least Phil Ruddock did NOT take early retirement and cash in on the Tax Payer benefits for the last 10 years or so.

Good on him.  If he is still fit enough at 73 why should he sit around, posting on Political Forums or going golfing when he can do something useful?

cods wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:04pm: He is a great deal older than me.   Why would a bloke at 73 years of age (with or without marbles) need to keep his hand in our pocket after the golden handshake he will receive anyway in the way of entitlements? have you asked all those JUDGES that are also living at the taxpayers expense...even after years of falling asleep on the bench..of course all these ivory tower dwellers...think paedophilia and drink driving is all ok if the judiciary get caught doing it.. yes even means NO to some. one good thing we wont be looking after the fat pig Palmer after the next election..

I know of no retired Judge who has been handed a Government sinecure in addition to their usual retirement benefits.

Hang on!  Yeas I can ~ two spring to mind now I think of it.  Royal Commissioners Cole and Dyson Heydon.

Neferti wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:31pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:04pm: He is a great deal older than me.   Why would a bloke at 73 years of age (with or without marbles) need to keep his hand in our pocket after the golden handshake he will receive anyway in the way of entitlements? Six years is a "great deal older"?  (Deleted link to another place.) Perhaps he is a dedicated Pollie (rare) who hung in there due to his Constituents? At least Phil Ruddock did NOT take early retirement and cash in on the Tax Payer benefits for the last 10 years or so. Good on him.  If he is still fit enough at 73 why should he sit around, posting on Political Forums or going golfing when he can do something useful?

I suggest you get that link to that other place out of here, or I will refer it to PN who has banned reference to it here.

Neferti wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:31pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:04pm: He is a great deal older than me.   Why would a bloke at 73 years of age (with or without marbles) need to keep his hand in our pocket after the golden handshake he will receive anyway in the way of entitlements? Six years is a "great deal older"?  Aussie's 60th Perhaps he is a dedicated Pollie (rare) who hung in there due to his Constituents? At least Phil Ruddock did NOT take early retirement and cash in on the Tax Payer benefits for the last 10 years or so. Good on him.  If he is still fit enough at 73 why should he sit around, posting on Political Forums or going golfing when he can do something useful?

they now make judges retire at 72 nef... in the past they went on FOREVER even booozzed up to the gill...greedy arseholes...

I am almost sure there are no lefites  like that though.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

cods wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:18pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:07pm: mariacostel wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:05pm: Ruddock will now retire and like all successful lawyers will start driving taxis. Maybe he should.  It would demonstrate that he is able to fend for himself and not need us to prop him up with an obvious sinecure. did you say that to gillard and krudd and the green bloke when you were a green.... >:( >:( >:( >:( I am damn sure I never read it perhaps you hav e a link to where you did.. at the moment I think we have more EX lABOR PMs LIVING OFF THE FAT OF THE LAND... than any liberals...but I guess thats ok with your double standards...

What taxpayer funded job were Gillard and Rudd handed after they left politics?

What "green" bloke, and when was i ever a 'green?'

cods wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:39pm:

Neferti wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:31pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:04pm: He is a great deal older than me.   Why would a bloke at 73 years of age (with or without marbles) need to keep his hand in our pocket after the golden handshake he will receive anyway in the way of entitlements? Six years is a "great deal older"?  *I deleted a link in the quoting this* Perhaps he is a dedicated Pollie (rare) who hung in there due to his Constituents? At least Phil Ruddock did NOT take early retirement and cash in on the Tax Payer benefits for the last 10 years or so. Good on him.  If he is still fit enough at 73 why should he sit around, posting on Political Forums or going golfing when he can do something useful? they now make judges retire at 72 nef... in the past they went on FOREVER even booozzed up to the gill...greedy arseholes... I am almost sure there are no lefites  like that though.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

It is 70 for the High Court and also in Queensland.  I think the Family Court retirement age is 65 but I'm not sure.

Aussie wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:49pm:

....but not before locking himself into the tax payer money trough!  Blaaaaady hell, why must these people keep their fingers in our pockets! Link. Just go, Ruddock!

For starters, he has done more for Australia than you and me combined.

He is an honourable man. Not a showman, I grant you, but an honourable man.  Unlike you.

Soren wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 4:49pm: ....but not before locking himself into the tax payer money trough!  Blaaaaady hell, why must these people keep their fingers in our pockets! Link. Just go, Ruddock! For starters, he has done more for Australia than you and me combined. He is an honourable man. Not a showman, I grant you, but an honourable man.  Unlike you.

So what?  He goes and gets the usual golden handshake worth hundreds of thousands of dollar.

Why does he not have the 'honour,' morality or common decency to get his hand out of our wallet taking this sinecure as well?

If he wants to work on, great ~ seek re-election!  He'd win easily!  Nah, this is part of Turnbull using our money to get rid of dead wood he does not want in Parliament.  It is a simple as that.

Aussie wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:54pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:50pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 4:49pm: ....but not before locking himself into the tax payer money trough!  Blaaaaady hell, why must these people keep their fingers in our pockets! Link. Just go, Ruddock! For starters, he has done more for Australia than you and me combined. He is an honourable man. Not a showman, I grant you, but an honourable man.  Unlike you. So what?  He goes and gets the usual golden handshake worth hundreds of thousands of dollar. Why does he not have the 'honour,' morality or common decency to get his hand out of our wallet taking this sinecure as well? If he wants to work on, great ~ seek re-election!  He'd win easily!  Nah, this is part of Turnbull using our money to get rid of dead wood he does not want in Parliament.  It is a simple as that.

Uber getting to you Aussie?  8-)

Aussie wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:33pm:

cods wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:15pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:04pm: He is a great deal older than me.   Why would a bloke at 73 years of age (with or without marbles) need to keep his hand in our pocket after the golden handshake he will receive anyway in the way of entitlements? have you asked all those JUDGES that are also living at the taxpayers expense...even after years of falling asleep on the bench..of course all these ivory tower dwellers...think paedophilia and drink driving is all ok if the judiciary get caught doing it.. yes even means NO to some. one good thing we wont be looking after the fat pig Palmer after the next election.. I know of no retired Judge who has been handed a Government sinecure in addition to their usual retirement benefits. Hang on!  Yeas I can ~ two spring to mind now I think of it.  Royal Commissioners Cole and Dyson Heydon.

No references at all to Judges appointed to Labor RCs?  Of course not! You dont want to spoil your perfect record of total unswerving bias!

Sounds like someone is envious of the successful after your own career of driving a taxi.

Aussie wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:39pm:

cods wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:18pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:07pm: mariacostel wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:05pm: Ruddock will now retire and like all successful lawyers will start driving taxis. Maybe he should.  It would demonstrate that he is able to fend for himself and not need us to prop him up with an obvious sinecure. did you say that to gillard and krudd and the green bloke when you were a green.... >:( >:( >:( >:( I am damn sure I never read it perhaps you hav e a link to where you did.. at the moment I think we have more EX lABOR PMs LIVING OFF THE FAT OF THE LAND... than any liberals...but I guess thats ok with your double standards... What taxpayer funded job were Gillard and Rudd handed after they left politics? What "green" bloke, and when was i ever a 'green?'

Gillard is a Professor at an Adelaide Uni and to date has apparently delivered a grand total of ONE lecture.

Sounds like a great job!  A bit like Tim Flannerys former gig on the Climate council at $180K for a PART-TIME JOB.

Aussie wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:54pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:50pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 4:49pm: ....but not before locking himself into the tax payer money trough!  Blaaaaady hell, why must these people keep their fingers in our pockets! Link. Just go, Ruddock! For starters, he has done more for Australia than you and me combined. He is an honourable man. Not a showman, I grant you, but an honourable man.  Unlike you. So what?  He goes and gets the usual golden handshake worth hundreds of thousands of dollar. Why does he not have the 'honour,' morality or common decency to get his hand out of our wallet taking this sinecure as well? If he wants to work on, great ~ seek re-election!  He'd win easily!  Nah, this is part of Turnbull using our money to get rid of dead wood he does not want in Parliament.  It is a simple as that.

He is going to be paid for DOING A JOB.  What is your problem other than the embarrassment of being a PUP supporter - the most expensive disaster of a political party in history.

Neferti wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:59pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:54pm: Soren wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:50pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 4:49pm: ....but not before locking himself into the tax payer money trough!  Blaaaaady hell, why must these people keep their fingers in our pockets! Link. Just go, Ruddock! For starters, he has done more for Australia than you and me combined. He is an honourable man. Not a showman, I grant you, but an honourable man.  Unlike you. So what?  He goes and gets the usual golden handshake worth hundreds of thousands of dollar. Why does he not have the 'honour,' morality or common decency to get his hand out of our wallet taking this sinecure as well? If he wants to work on, great ~ seek re-election!  He'd win easily!  Nah, this is part of Turnbull using our money to get rid of dead wood he does not want in Parliament.  It is a simple as that. Uber getting to you Aussie?  8-)

Why do you persist in personalising just about everything?

mariacostel wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:01pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:33pm: cods wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:15pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:04pm: He is a great deal older than me.   Why would a bloke at 73 years of age (with or without marbles) need to keep his hand in our pocket after the golden handshake he will receive anyway in the way of entitlements? have you asked all those JUDGES that are also living at the taxpayers expense...even after years of falling asleep on the bench..of course all these ivory tower dwellers...think paedophilia and drink driving is all ok if the judiciary get caught doing it.. yes even means NO to some. one good thing we wont be looking after the fat pig Palmer after the next election.. I know of no retired Judge who has been handed a Government sinecure in addition to their usual retirement benefits. Hang on!  Yeas I can ~ two spring to mind now I think of it.  Royal Commissioners Cole and Dyson Heydon. No references at all to Judges appointed to Labor RCs?  Of course not! You dont want to spoil your perfect record of total unswerving bias! Sounds like someone is envious of the successful after your own career of driving a taxi.

Nothing stopping you from posting the details, melielongtime, is there?

Aussie wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:07pm:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 6:01pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:33pm: cods wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:15pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:04pm: He is a great deal older than me.   Why would a bloke at 73 years of age (with or without marbles) need to keep his hand in our pocket after the golden handshake he will receive anyway in the way of entitlements? have you asked all those JUDGES that are also living at the taxpayers expense...even after years of falling asleep on the bench..of course all these ivory tower dwellers...think paedophilia and drink driving is all ok if the judiciary get caught doing it.. yes even means NO to some. one good thing we wont be looking after the fat pig Palmer after the next election.. I know of no retired Judge who has been handed a Government sinecure in addition to their usual retirement benefits. Hang on!  Yeas I can ~ two spring to mind now I think of it.  Royal Commissioners Cole and Dyson Heydon. No references at all to Judges appointed to Labor RCs?  Of course not! You dont want to spoil your perfect record of total unswerving bias! Sounds like someone is envious of the successful after your own career of driving a taxi. Nothing stopping you from posting the details, melielongtime, is there?

Judges were appointed to Labor RCs. That's all it takes to torpedo your insipid argument. THIS is why your claim to being a lawyer always fails. You produce lettuce-leaf arguments based on nothing more than your own petty biases and issues.  You are a joke.

:-/
Aussie wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:07pm:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 6:01pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:33pm: cods wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:15pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:04pm: He is a great deal older than me.   Why would a bloke at 73 years of age (with or without marbles) need to keep his hand in our pocket after the golden handshake he will receive anyway in the way of entitlements? have you asked all those JUDGES that are also living at the taxpayers expense...even after years of falling asleep on the bench..of course all these ivory tower dwellers...think paedophilia and drink driving is all ok if the judiciary get caught doing it.. yes even means NO to some. one good thing we wont be looking after the fat pig Palmer after the next election.. I know of no retired Judge who has been handed a Government sinecure in addition to their usual retirement benefits. Hang on!  Yeas I can ~ two spring to mind now I think of it.  Royal Commissioners Cole and Dyson Heydon. No references at all to Judges appointed to Labor RCs?  Of course not! You dont want to spoil your perfect record of total unswerving bias! Sounds like someone is envious of the successful after your own career of driving a taxi. Nothing stopping you from posting the details, melielongtime, is there?

Talking about "personalising" and "abuse"  here you are, arsie ........ should I PM the GMods and report you?

Talk about DOUBLE STANDARDS ... didn't your Mother teach you that LYING was a sin? ::)

Laugh away and post some details of these Judges appointed by Labour to act as Royal Commissioners.  I'm not saying it has never happened.  You say it has, so stump up with some proof, melielongtime.

Neferti wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:14pm:

:-/ Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 6:07pm: mariacostel wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 6:01pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:33pm: cods wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:15pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:04pm: He is a great deal older than me.   Why would a bloke at 73 years of age (with or without marbles) need to keep his hand in our pocket after the golden handshake he will receive anyway in the way of entitlements? have you asked all those JUDGES that are also living at the taxpayers expense...even after years of falling asleep on the bench..of course all these ivory tower dwellers...think paedophilia and drink driving is all ok if the judiciary get caught doing it.. yes even means NO to some. one good thing we wont be looking after the fat pig Palmer after the next election.. I know of no retired Judge who has been handed a Government sinecure in addition to their usual retirement benefits. Hang on!  Yeas I can ~ two spring to mind now I think of it.  Royal Commissioners Cole and Dyson Heydon. No references at all to Judges appointed to Labor RCs?  Of course not! You dont want to spoil your perfect record of total unswerving bias! Sounds like someone is envious of the successful after your own career of driving a taxi. Nothing stopping you from posting the details, melielongtime, is there? Talking about "personalising" and "abuse"  here you are, arsie ........ should I PM the GMods and report you? Talk about DOUBLE STANDARDS ... didn't your Mother teach you that LYING was a sin? ::)

Go right ahead.  GMod approval of the term melielongtime was given ages ago.

Human Rights ? I'll bet the old hypocrite doesn't lobby for voluntary voting 

cods wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:18pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:07pm: mariacostel wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:05pm: Ruddock will now retire and like all successful lawyers will start driving taxis. Maybe he should.  It would demonstrate that he is able to fend for himself and not need us to prop him up with an obvious sinecure. did you say that to gillard and krudd and the green bloke when you were a green.... >:( >:( >:( >:( I am damn sure I never read it perhaps you hav e a link to where you did.. at the moment I think we have more EX lABOR PMs LIVING OFF THE FAT OF THE LAND... than any liberals...but I guess thats ok with your double standards...

Does that mean they live longer?

Hardly a reason to be nasty cods!

Perhaps the libs need to look after their bodies!

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Phil Duddoch the only living advertisement for mandatory euthanasia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:24pm:

Human Rights ? I'll bet the old hypocrite doesn't lobby for voluntary voting

If you don't like compulsory voting, you know where the airport is.

The trouble with voluntary voting is that someone (usually conservatives, funnily
enough) will then actively make it difficult or impossible for minorities or dissenters
TO vote at all.

Don't believe me? It's already been happening in the USA for some time now.

Kat wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 7:05pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 6:24pm: Human Rights ? I'll bet the old hypocrite doesn't lobby for voluntary voting  If you don't like compulsory voting, you know where the airport is. The trouble with voluntary voting is that someone (usually conservatives, funnily enough) will then actively make it difficult or impossible for minorities or dissenters TO vote at all. Don't believe me? It's already been happening in the USA for some time now.

Any links with that ?

Sorry I'm not going anywhere

Conversely, if we changed to voluntary voting, you would fly out slave driver?

I think its time to get rid of some of these old bugga's to be honest..

if they want to stay active then go do some charity work like Abbott has always done..

they've made enough money.. they have a big pension..

JUST GO..

ole bronny must be due to hit the road as well..

Aussie wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:14pm:

Laugh away and post some details of these Judges appointed by Labour to act as Royal Commissioners.  I'm not saying it has never happened.  You say it has, so stump up with some proof, melielongtime.

Has Labor ever initiated a Royal Commission? As soon as you answer yes to that you have your answer, you buffoon.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 8:09pm:

I think its time to get rid of some of these old bugga's to be honest.. if they want to stay active then go do some charity work like Abbott has always done.. they've made enough money.. they have a big pension.. JUST GO.. ole bronny must be due to hit the road as well..

Should be a limit on the number of times they can hold office..... two terms maybe... there's always a need for fresh ideas and fresh blood... look what's become of the two major parties these days.... hidebound and totally out of touch.

Keep 'em lean and keep 'em keen... they're overfed and have no idea after about a month of the good life...... shuffling all those billions around the board makes them lose touch with the simple reality that many shuffle dollars and cents just to stay alive....

There is no room left in this country for the politics of greed, the politics of enforced equalities and exclusions masquerading as inclusions.. for those who missed it,
Australia is on the ropes and no amount of bulldust will hide that stark reality.

We need a real government and we need it now - not just another run of these namby-pamby ideologues out of universities all intent on fattening out of the public paddock.... for life.

Vote 1 - Grappler for President - We ARE The People!

Aussie wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:54pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:50pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 4:49pm: ....but not before locking himself into the tax payer money trough!  Blaaaaady hell, why must these people keep their fingers in our pockets! Link. Just go, Ruddock! For starters, he has done more for Australia than you and me combined. He is an honourable man. Not a showman, I grant you, but an honourable man.  Unlike you. So what?  He goes and gets the usual golden handshake worth hundreds of thousands of dollar. Why does he not have the 'honour,' morality or common decency to get his hand out of our wallet taking this sinecure as well? If he wants to work on, great ~ seek re-election!  He'd win easily!  Nah, this is part of Turnbull using our money to get rid of dead wood he does not want in Parliament.  It is a simple as that.

You are an ijit, Arsey.

The bloke has been in parliament for decades. He has represented people and had done more good than you and me combined, twice over.

Your being a grudging, rancorous bastard changes nothing - not his worth nor your lack of worth.

Soren wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

The bloke has been in parliament for decades. He has represented people and had done more good than you and me combined, twice over.

Jesus Sore End, could you get your tongue any further up his arse?

He's a useless old prick who is well past his use-by date.

"done more good"    ;D

Soren wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:54pm: Soren wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:50pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 4:49pm: ....but not before locking himself into the tax payer money trough!  Blaaaaady hell, why must these people keep their fingers in our pockets! Link. Just go, Ruddock! For starters, he has done more for Australia than you and me combined. He is an honourable man. Not a showman, I grant you, but an honourable man.  Unlike you. So what?  He goes and gets the usual golden handshake worth hundreds of thousands of dollar. Why does he not have the 'honour,' morality or common decency to get his hand out of our wallet taking this sinecure as well? If he wants to work on, great ~ seek re-election!  He'd win easily!  Nah, this is part of Turnbull using our money to get rid of dead wood he does not want in Parliament.  It is a simple as that. You are an ijit, Arsey. The bloke has been in parliament for decades. He has represented people and had done more good than you and me combined, twice over. Your being a grudging, rancorous bastard changes nothing - not his worth nor your lack of worth.

So, he gets what every other retiring Pollie gets...a generous pension etc package.

Why must he have the extra job paid for by me?  Nah.  Stuff him.  He should just bugger off.   If he is not good enough to stay in Parliament, he ain't good enough for any other similar job.

You sound like you agree he is getting additional because of his longevity.  Am I right?

What a great man. He p issed off  many a people smuggler.

Aussie wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 7:38pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 7:31pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:54pm: Soren wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 5:50pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 4:49pm: ....but not before locking himself into the tax payer money trough!  Blaaaaady hell, why must these people keep their fingers in our pockets! Link. Just go, Ruddock! For starters, he has done more for Australia than you and me combined. He is an honourable man. Not a showman, I grant you, but an honourable man.  Unlike you. So what?  He goes and gets the usual golden handshake worth hundreds of thousands of dollar. Why does he not have the 'honour,' morality or common decency to get his hand out of our wallet taking this sinecure as well? If he wants to work on, great ~ seek re-election!  He'd win easily!  Nah, this is part of Turnbull using our money to get rid of dead wood he does not want in Parliament.  It is a simple as that. You are an ijit, Arsey. The bloke has been in parliament for decades. He has represented people and had done more good than you and me combined, twice over. Your being a grudging, rancorous bastard changes nothing - not his worth nor your lack of worth. So, he gets what every other retiring Pollie gets...a generous pension etc package. Why must he have the extra job paid for by me?  Nah.  Stuff him.  He should just bugger off.   If he is not good enough to stay in Parliament, he ain't good enough for any other similar job. You sound like you agree he is getting additional because of his longevity.  Am I right?

You couldn't be right except if you didn't try. When you do try to be right, you are always wrong.

Ruddock is an eminent elder statesman with an impeccable record. A principled, steady servant of his electorate and the country. He makes way to others in parliament but he can continue to serve his country effectively as he has done for decades.

Being nothing more than a golf playing fried chicken, you would have no idea about what it takes to be effective in public service.

Soren wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 7:52pm:

Ruddock is an eminent elder statesman with an impeccable record. A principled, steady servant of his electorate and the country.

He's a complete arsehole (easy to see why you're attracted to him).

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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You sound like you agree he is getting additional because of his longevity.  Am I right?

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You couldn't be right except if you didn't try. When you do try to be right, you are always wrong. Ruddock is an eminent elder statesman with an impeccable record. A principled, steady servant of his electorate and the country. He makes way to others in parliament but he can continue to serve his country effectively as he has done for decades. Being nothing more than a golf playing fried chicken, you would have no idea about what it takes to be effective in public service.

Don't they all do that?  Why ought this 73 year old yanker get some sort of special extra reward by way of such an obvious tax payer funded sinecure?  What do you reckon Bronny ought get when she finally buggers off?

double plus good wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 7:38pm:

What a great man. He p issed off  many a people smuggler.

being inhumane is all he needed to do, it came very easy to him.


For some strange reason conservative supporters like disgraceful behaviour.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 7:54pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 7:52pm: Ruddock is an eminent elder statesman with an impeccable record. A principled, steady servant of his electorate and the country. He's a complete arsehole .

Says Cloaca Maxima himself.

Aussie wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 8:10pm:

Quote: You sound like you agree he is getting additional because of his longevity.  Am I right? [quote]You couldn't be right except if you didn't try. When you do try to be right, you are always wrong. Ruddock is an eminent elder statesman with an impeccable record. A principled, steady servant of his electorate and the country. He makes way to others in parliament but he can continue to serve his country effectively as he has done for decades. Being nothing more than a golf playing fried chicken, you would have no idea about what it takes to be effective in public service.

Don't they all do that?  Why ought this 73 year old yanker get some sort of special extra reward by way of such an obvious tax payer funded sinecure?  What do you reckon Bronny ought get when she finally buggers off?[/quote]
Because he is more useful and more effective than you (or me).

Dnarever wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 8:19pm:

double plus good wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 7:38pm: What a great man. He p issed off  many a people smuggler. being inhumane is all he needed to do, it came very easy to him. For some strange reason conservative supporters like disgraceful behaviour.

Being inhuman to people smugglers is a good thing.

You are not one of those 'Let them stay' drongos, are you???

Soren wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 8:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 8:10pm: Quote: You sound like you agree he is getting additional because of his longevity.  Am I right? [quote]You couldn't be right except if you didn't try. When you do try to be right, you are always wrong. Ruddock is an eminent elder statesman with an impeccable record. A principled, steady servant of his electorate and the country. He makes way to others in parliament but he can continue to serve his country effectively as he has done for decades. Being nothing more than a golf playing fried chicken, you would have no idea about what it takes to be effective in public service. Don't they all do that?  Why ought this 73 year old yanker get some sort of special extra reward by way of such an obvious tax payer funded sinecure?  What do you reckon Bronny ought get when she finally buggers off?

Because he is more useful and more effective than you (or me).


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If he was useful and effective, he'd run again.  Nah.  He knows he has been sidelined by Turnbull, and they have struck a deal (paid for by me, and bugger that) so he gets out of Turnbull's political way.  This sucks, but I'm not surprised you support a Lib ripping us all off.

Soren wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 8:26pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 8:19pm: double plus good wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 7:38pm: What a great man. He p issed off  many a people smuggler. being inhumane is all he needed to do, it came very easy to him. For some strange reason conservative supporters like disgraceful behaviour. Being inhuman to people smugglers is a good thing. You are not one of those 'Let them stay' drongos, are you???

People smugglers are treated very well by the Australian government - last I heard we were paying then a  heap of money. Almost all their worst was saved for people looking for a safe home.

Soren wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 8:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 8:10pm: Quote: You sound like you agree he is getting additional because of his longevity.  Am I right? [quote]You couldn't be right except if you didn't try. When you do try to be right, you are always wrong. Ruddock is an eminent elder statesman with an impeccable record. A principled, steady servant of his electorate and the country. He makes way to others in parliament but he can continue to serve his country effectively as he has done for decades. Being nothing more than a golf playing fried chicken, you would have no idea about what it takes to be effective in public service. Don't they all do that?  Why ought this 73 year old yanker get some sort of special extra reward by way of such an obvious tax payer funded sinecure?  What do you reckon Bronny ought get when she finally buggers off?

Because he is more useful and more effective than you (or me).


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Please explain?

Soren wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 8:26pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 8:19pm: double plus good wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 7:38pm: What a great man. He p issed off  many a people smuggler. being inhumane is all he needed to do, it came very easy to him. For some strange reason conservative supporters like disgraceful behaviour. Being inhuman to people smugglers is a good thing. You are not one of those 'Let them stay' drongos, are you???

The real people smugglers never come anywhere near Australia so what you on about ?

The Libs will need to dig a hole under their lowest barrel to find a replacement.

Soren wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 8:26pm:

Being inhuman to people smugglers is a good thing.

Sore End is sounding more and more like a sociopath every day.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 8:56pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 8:26pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 8:19pm: double plus good wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 7:38pm: What a great man. He p issed off  many a people smuggler. being inhumane is all he needed to do, it came very easy to him. For some strange reason conservative supporters like disgraceful behaviour. Being inhuman to people smugglers is a good thing. You are not one of those 'Let them stay' drongos, are you??? The real people smugglers never come anywhere near Australia so what you on about ?

this was on the ABC HOW DID YOU MISS IT?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-04/powerful-people-smugglers-caught-living-in-australia/4050506



A Four Corners investigation has uncovered evidence that at least six experienced people smugglers came to Australia by boat, won refugee status and were released from detention to cities across Australia.

At least some of them went on to set up lucrative people-smuggling deals from inside Australia.

yep all on LABORS WATCH.,. :) :) :) :)

Dnarever wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 8:58pm:

The Libs will need to dig a hole under their lowest barrel to find a replacement.

god they couldnt go any deeper than you when you found shortarse.....my god....even the unions havent found anyone as bad as him...to replace him.. ;D ;D ;D ;D...

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 8:42am:

Soren wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 8:26pm: Being inhuman to people smugglers is a good thing. Sore End is sounding more and more like a sociopath every day.

Well, YOU want to suck people smugglers' dix, we all know that - you will suck anything.  Explain how that is ' humane' you stupid drongo - sucking people smugglers' dix.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 8:55pm:

Almost all their worst was saved for people looking for a safe home.

Oh yes all those people fleeing persecution.

Amazing how many of them are young man of fighting age isn't it?

That's ok we'll just leave all the women behind to face it....

Ruddock goes!

Yes and only 40 years too late.

We need to look deeper at the machinations and infighting inside the NSW branch of the Liberal party.

Liberals risk expulsion to slam 'corrupt' preselection process in New South Wales

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Three Liberal Party members, including two former parliamentarians, have risked expulsion from the party to attack the power of factions and "abuse" of preselection processes. The New South Wales Liberal Party has opened preselections for all the seats for the forthcoming federal election. While challenges are yet to formally materialise, a number of MPs are facing threats, including one touted as a potential prime minister. The former politicians and party members have spoken out because they say in New South Wales factional powerbrokers rather than party members are making key decisions about the future of the party. Former NSW Upper House member Charlie Lynn has called for urgent reform. "If the Liberal Party was a business I think it would be deregistered because of its conduct," Mr Lynn told 7.30. "It cannot set itself up as an example of an organisation that has good governance." The most contentious of all the possible preselection battles is in the seat of Hume, held by first-term MP Angus Taylor, a successful businessman and former Rhodes scholar. In New South Wales the moderate or left faction is dominant and has a loose alliance with the centre-right faction. Its power has been boosted by the defection of state MP Jai Rowell, a powerbroker who controls branches in Mr Taylor's electorate of Hume. Former parliamentary secretary and Sky News contributor Ross Cameron spoke exclusively to 7.30. "This is the irony, that the big power change which has happened in NSW, you've got a bloke named Jai Rowell, who nobody has ever heard of," Mr Cameron said. "You could walk from the bottom of Martin Place to the top and ask every single person 'how do you think Jai Rowell MP is going?' Everybody would look at you blankly, [and say], 'you know, I've got no idea who you're talking about'." Multiple sources have accused Mr Rowell of wanting to roll Hume MP Angus Taylor to replace him with neighbouring MP Russell Matheson, whose seat of Macarthur will become marginal after a redistribution. Mr Rowell and Mr Matheson are close, with Mr Rowell's wife working in Mr Matheson's office. Mr Cameron said it was outrageous that a factional boss had the power to call time on an MP's career. "I don't believe that members of Parliament should be protected from competition or from challenge — I want more competition, not less," Mr Cameron said. "What I object to is a situation where a bloke, a factional boss, can walk up to someone like Angus Taylor in the seat of Hume and say, 'oh, Angus, just letting you know [with] Jai Rowell's defection, I've got the numbers to execute you and we just haven't decided yet whether we're going to do it'." Charlie Lynn is Mr Rowell's former boss and friend. He is aware of the branches that would be involved in any contest between Mr Taylor and Mr Matheson. "Yes, Rowell has the numbers to roll Taylor in Hume," Mr Lynn said. Mr Rowell declined to be interviewed but sent a statement to 7.30 saying it was ludicrous to suggest he would direct branches to roll Mr Taylor. "I am not part of any challenge to Angus Taylor. I have enjoyed a good working relationship with Angus Taylor and Russell Matheson and consider them both friends. I have no reason to expect that to change," Mr Rowell said. He denied suggestions that the branches were populated by "ghost" members. Mr Cameron and Mr Lynn would like the party to give members a bigger say in preselections. They would like the party to change the process to a plebiscite or even a US-style primary. "I think what you have to do is you have to be willing to protest, you have to be willing to say, 'this is not good enough'," Mr Cameron said. "You have to be prepared to have those difficult conversations like the one we're having now, where I'm having to be critical of my own side, because we are behaving like some sort of Chicago, Tammany Hall back room. "It's a corrupt process, let's call it what it is." Juris Laucis, a barrister and party member from the electorate of Warringah, is also sympathetic to the right faction. He says local members will walk away if the party structures are not made more democratic. "Unfortunately I feel parliamentarians are scared that they will lose their position if they speak out," Mr Laucis said. "Or else they are already under the power and influence of the powerbrokers. "I think that's a very sad thing that you have to come to people like me, who are just ordinary members with no official position within the party, to speak out against the abuse that's occurring." The Liberal Party in NSW has agreed to expand the number of branch members involved in preselecting candidates after the current round of nominations.

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Ruddock says nobody has right to hold a seat Meanwhile, outgoing Liberal MP Philip Ruddock has called for a more competitive preselection process within the party, even if the incumbent is forced out. Mr Ruddock will stand down at the next federal election after 42 years in politics, amid speculation he was facing a battle to hold on to his seat of Berowra. He told the ABC's Lateline no MP should take their seat for granted. "Well, if there were offering candidates who were measurably better, it may well be appropriate," he said. "I mean, I don't think anybody has a right to hold a seat. But I think we have to choose people who are the right candidates for the right seats." Federal MPs Craig Kelly and Mr Taylor remain under pressure to hold on to their seats, despite personal assurances from the Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull. Mr Ruddock said while he has "enormous respect" for both Mr Taylor and Mr Kelly, if a better candidate came along, "so be it". Mr Ruddock said there needed to be a better approach to choosing candidates, claiming the current rules were "rigid". "I wouldn't have sought to stay in the Parliament if I didn't believe that I wasn't contributing, and equally, I think people are entitled to say if there's somebody else who's going to do it better, well, let them have a go," he said.

Soren wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 11:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 10th, 2016 at 8:42am: Soren wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 8:26pm: Being inhuman to people smugglers is a good thing. Sore End is sounding more and more like a sociopath every day. Well, YOU want to suck people smugglers' dix, we all know that - you will suck anything.  Explain how that is ' humane' you stupid drongo - sucking people smugglers' dix.

A hard day at the orifice, Sore End?

You're sounding a little stressed, old boy.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2016 at 9:59am:

Soren wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 11:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 10th, 2016 at 8:42am: Soren wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 8:26pm: Being inhuman to people smugglers is a good thing. Sore End is sounding more and more like a sociopath every day. Well, YOU want to suck people smugglers' dix, we all know that - you will suck anything.  Explain how that is ' humane' you stupid drongo - sucking people smugglers' dix. A hard day at the orifice, Sore End? You're sounding a little stressed, old boy.

Sooo...   l what's wrong with being inhuman to people smugglers, slobber?

Soren wrote on Feb 12^th, 2016 at 7:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12th, 2016 at 9:59am: Soren wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 11:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 10th, 2016 at 8:42am: Soren wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 8:26pm: Being inhuman to people smugglers is a good thing. Sore End is sounding more and more like a sociopath every day. Well, YOU want to suck people smugglers' dix, we all know that - you will suck anything.  Explain how that is ' humane' you stupid drongo - sucking people smugglers' dix. A hard day at the orifice, Sore End? You're sounding a little stressed, old boy. Sooo...   l what's wrong with being inhuman to people smugglers, slobber?

Civilised beings are never inhumane, to anyone.

You wouldn't understand.